***** I agree. What i also like is the idea is being able to skip the cutscene, but only after you have seen it once. Won't miss any of the story or dialogue, still has replay value. I think The World Ends With You did this, not sure about other games. Tales of Xillia did it too, i think, though i am not too sure if you can't just skip scenes in general in that game.
***** The choice is always an important one, I enjoy a good cutscene now and then but after playing a tales game for about five to six times (my gameplay of those style games usually exceeds 200 hours easy lol) or similarly styled games I find that skipping at least the more....boring scenes is an important function dood)
***** But they should never be one-button skips. I like the way KH does it because you have to select "Skip Scene" on purpose. I can't count the number of times I've played games where you just press start or + to skip the scene and accidentally skipped it.
Cloud_StrifeEx the main issue I had with the fight is the zombie status effect. It took me like 5 times of trial and error to realise that zombie was the thing actually saving me in that fight XD
FFX is designed in a way where the game's assets are meant to load during cutscenes, which is why you can't skip them. It would have been a hassle for them to re-structure the game to change that for the HD remaster, so they decided not to do it. but the unskippable scenes is definitely what keeps me from enjoying the game, it just becomes super tedious to sit through.
yuuxi 西 I find the best way to make them less annoying is to just grab a snack, get a drink, or just have a handy youtube video ready so you can do something else while the cutscene plays out. At least the good stuff during post game is mostly cutscene free.
7:18 Honestly This would easily be number 1 for me. If a random encounter rate is too high, it will literally kill a game for me that I would have otherwise enjoyed. Seriously fuck random encounters.
MasakanSolaris I believe there was one FF game (actually might have been the first one) that had glitter on the floor, this fun sparkly dust caused a fight every time you stepped on it and there were levels ladled with the stuff, so yeah random encounters stopped phasing me after that lol dood XD
MasakanSolaris To each their own. I personally love random encounters. The newer gen FF's where you get to pick the battles makes the game un playable to me. I havent played one since FFX. I keep trying to play 12 but i just can't. I really wish they would find a way to satisfy both sides of the fence. Now I was able to play XI but that was because it was an MMO, and obviously random battles wouldnt work to well in a MMO.
MasakanSolaris Maybe he likes that he can power level characters that he really hasn't put as much effort into like his other characters. If that is the case, I can get behind that because that's why I kinda like random encounters.
+Sogreth89 yeah, it allowed for so much freedom, although it was a bit tedious to do some things. still, osmose on zombies got my MP up to 999 REAL fast....
It's amazing how many people bitch about how they can't "understand" me when I talk. And yet, these are some of the same people who seem to have no problem hearing every word I said when I'm defending FF 13..... They obviously hate the game. This is why I don't put up with those bastards who rant on my talking. They are just being dicks.
+Darkkefka I remember watching your videos months ago, and apparently people had issues with that. Your newer work is much more refined, and I know, because I criticised you on some of your top 10 videos being 'too long' in terms of pauses in speech and footage which wasn't necessary. I've found you've improved a lot, plus I'm pretty sure the thing about people 'not being able to understand you' is a long running troll intended to get a rise out of you like this. Just keep doing what you're doing and ignore the trolls mate.
This is the internet, opinions for some reason are always heard louder than the rest of the given context. I enjoyed FFXIII and no longer see reason to have to try "defending" it. The people that don't like it feel so strongly about their disliking for it that no amount of reason breaks through. It's hopeless, pointless, and down right pitiful.. How incapable some individuals are at accepting differing opinions blows my mind. Don't let these dicks slow your content down, and don't let them alter your mood. They aren't worth it.
+Darkkefka english not being my native language, I sometimes have issues with understanding your accent. It was more of an issue in the past when I first discovered your videos, but I grew accustomed to it and even if sometimes I still have to go back a few seconds to really understand a word, I generally have no real problems understanding you. So yeah, I think they are dicks. Plus, I have to admit that half of the reasons I watch your videos is how you narrate them. It's pretty damn funny, in a very good way. Especially when you rant.
Yeah most people say Final Fantasy died after 10. but 12 was pretty good to play. 13 had its ups and downs but I liked most of the combat. except the countdowns on the first and third and not being able to control the monsters on 13-2
Bryan Davis I agree. I think all final fantasy games have something to bring to the table. Even the one I think is the weakest, like FF X-2, is still a good game with a great job system. Plus, if someone bitches about a youtuber including games they don't like, why don't they do videos saying how much those games suck ass in their opinion ? Just because one doesn't share an opinion, doesn't mean he has the right to be a dick about it.
The levelling system in FF2. Holy shit it is BAD. You have to do practically everything in battle to level up your characters in a balanced way. If you want to equip better weapons, you gotta attack. If you want more HP to survive endgame bosses, you gotta take damage and block enemy attacks. If you want to level up magic, you gotta use spells. And so on. And yes, the #1 pick on this list is 100% relatable. Both the Steam and the PS4 HD ports of FFX forgot to add the option to skip cutscenes so if you die to say, Seymour Flux or Yunalesca, you gotta sit through 10 minutes of cutscenes EVEN ON THE HD REMASTER! Why the FUCK did Square Enix forget that feature for FFX and yet include it in KH1 Final Mix?! That is beyond stupid, especially since you can just watch the cutscenes in the in-game library and/or here on YT anyway. I do NOT want to keep sitting through every goddamn cutscene in FFX every time I want to play through the game. I don't care how good the story is.
puttymon I could see people spamming attacks and wondering why it's not working. I don't think you can actually die though, since the one sister heals you constantly, it's more running out of time before you realize that you're literally just supposed to stand there and use steelguard.
In Response to Pedro Joaquim's comment: I really hate people who post comments and never leave people a chance to respond to them. Okay, I will give you a few points since you are right in the fact that I never played 1,2, or 3. However, I've noted this hundreds of times. And I have indeed played 4,5, and 6. I have full LPS of those game to proove it. Now, there was nothing complicated about the FF5 job system. I started to include it in the list, but I found these more annoying. About the FFX cut scenes..this is a game that some of us like to play over many times. And after we've seen the story hundreds of times, we don't need to see it anymore. Especially when we're doing a Low level game challenge and losing to a boss over and over again..forcing us to watch the same 10 minute cut scene again.
+Darkkefka ff1 and 3 are a bit meh, but i recomend the ff2, just for the history, really just for that still i do not belive it was a problem, i played ff12 several times on ps2 (it was my first ff, strange but yeah...) and still didnt had problems with cutscene, i agree that its frustating when u are in a boss fight and after dying u just want to jump right back in action, but still not so much as losing a game because the leader died, or having random encounters every 5 seconds with sometimes monster that cant even deal more than 1 dmg to you... btw since we have diferent opinions, not going far with it, just stating once more that for me, ff5 job system would make a good place in the list since it a game mechanic and a really bad one that i belive many agree, because on the first time playing it every1 will have a bad time in doing the right jobs, even more if they do not find the mime job And sorry if i sounded hateful in saying that u didnt play games before the ff7, was not my intention and only realize after i sent the comment ... sry x)
+Pedro Joaquim "Not Clayton! Ee-oo-oo-oo-ah! Not Clayton!" x50 makes me slightly inclined to disagree here. If we're talking Pokemon though, random encounters with a level 16 Zubat every six steps in every cave ever can die in a grease fire. Switching it up once in a while with a level 17 Geodude doesn't help. Would it have killed the developers to decrease the chances of a random encounter based on how overlevelled you are for an area? My level 59 Blaziken is not amused, level 14 Spinda asshat, gtfo of my way, and tell your over 9000 brothers and sisters in this one 6x6 patch of grass to do the same.
After I saw the story of FFX ONE time, I didn't need to see it anymore. I knew it was terrible after the first playthrough. I did like the gameplay though (particularly the battle system), and the remastered version at least lets you skip the cutscenes, which is a major improvement over the PS2 North American version.
Bravely Default/Second and Earthbound are two games which perfected the whole "random encounter" system. Bravely allowed you to adjust the random encounter rate (from 0% to 200%), while Earthbound had an overpower mechanic. Simply put, if you encountered a monster and it stood no chance of winning, you weren't even teleported to the battle screen. You walked around the world map and the XP and money/items were just automatically added to your totals. Made backtracking through early maps much faster..
Darkkefka Thank you. Your rant on FF13 is something I've been saying for forever. Most of the people who say that 13 sucks are the humongous 7 fanboys who have only played 7 yet thinks it's the best game in the series and the best game ever. Others complain about how it takes to long to get going and there's even people who simple bitch about how Lightning has too many games yet we both know that only LR is about her. 13 was about ALL of the L'cie not just Lightning and 13-2 was about Serah and Noel
Flaming Gilgamesh I do agree with you, but as a FFVII fan, please don't group me in with them. FFXIII doesn't deserve the negative hype it gets and out of the entire series of FF games, it is the easiest to play and finish. That is not a neg on the game, it is a good game for beginners to start with and then branch into the others. I've played most, not the MMOs, of the games in the series, and still don't see how FFXIII gets hated, sure FFVII is my all time favorite, but I don't hate FFXIII, FFIII for the DS on the other hand is a different story. Some of the reasons it is hated I find funny: its too Linear, duh its in RPG; The summons are bad, at least they went with the original summons and not the the same mechanic of FFXII. Every FF game has something that makes it less than perfect, FFVII is far from perfect and I'm a fan of it. FFXIII is far from perfect just like the others in the long line of titles.
Triser Tricordoh XIII is not the easiest game to play and finish. XIII had a giant difficulty spike at chapter 11 and 13, I've seen people, almost at max crystarium, struggling with Orphan. VI, VII and IX are probably the easiest to play the first time because all 3 of them can easily be beaten without any grinding. Hell, I even beat IX at level 30.
I hate the entire XIII trilogy and I don't care for VII. X and X-2 are the only FF games that I really care about and they're the only ones that stuck with me. Hell X-2 is my favorite RPG ever and that game gets criticized almost as much as XIII.
"... Look I know how good this chick really is and im also a pervert so this is who im gonna fucken use!" - DK. That crack me up. I know how you feel sometime.
DemonAshuraX Oops forgot to add... I didnt like FFXII battle system.. Way to slow and hard but i know one battle system i really like is FFX-2. Love it.
+DemonAshuraX Dude I _love_ the battle system on 12 because you can do so much with it compared to other FF games. Like, if you know a boss is about to go ham on your party with its big attack, just reduce the party to one character and have him tank the hit for everyone else (before anyone gets targeted); meanwhile, the others coming in after him can bench him and heal him up while counterattacking. Or if you want to create an immortal bait character, Reverse + Decoy on that character and have him do nothing but attack. Or if you know you can block/absorb an enemy's super AoE with equipments in your inventory, just load up the equip screen mid-battle and swap equipments on the fly (much like activating a trap card or two in response to an opposing monster's attack, if you're into Yu-Gi-Oh!). This works especially well against Ultima and Zodiark and also helps against Chaos's Aeroja and Yiazmat's Cyclone. Or if you want to interrupt a character's move (even while it's being used), swap equipments on the fly and the action is negated instantly. This is basically the "counter trap" method (think, Yu-Gi-Oh! references). And the list goes on and on. I can list about 100 more possibilities with the FF12 battle system, but that would take too much time xD
I believe the Trance system works that way in IX specifically to KEEP you from saving them all for the bosses. Having them be used the moment you get them means that you'll get to use their benefits more often, because the devs knew that given the option, every player would just hoard their entire party with trance until a boss, then steamroll it.
I never got much of a chance to play FF XIII. My Ps3 stopped reading discs and I've never bothered to fix it. The little i did play it I remember it being massively frustrating. 12:01 is exactly why. That's a joke, how did that ever make it through play testing? Being tied to the leader isn't the problem with that game. Being given inadequate control of everyone, including that leader, is.
Bro, this was great, spot on. I love your attitude and presentation, especially in comparison to how literally everyone else does their reviews and lists. Stay true, my man.
Currently playing through X now and yeah unskippable cutscenes is bs especially when you die to a boss that has like 10+ mins of cutscenes between save sphere and boss. You can laugh but I'm struggling with yunalesca. The only one that's taken more than 2 attempts and after the 6th time watching the cutscene I called it quits for the day.
RemnantOfThePast Remember to leave Zombie status on at least one party member so that Mega Death doesn't wipe you. If you don't wanna deal with it, Auto Life is a great workaround.
RemnantOfThePast ...I feel your pain. Not in FFX, but in the original Kingdom Hearts. Do not get me started on how many times I have watched the cutscenes before the Maleficent Dragon and Ansem Riku fights. And both of them are just long enough to be annoying, especially the Ansem Riku one.
Just leave zombie status on some of your characters so when she casts mega death you'll be immune to it or just search up videos on how people killed her, good luck !
Agreed. I dont understand the hate on 13. I will agree, its a hallway. but it will eventually open up into a much larger room, besides its a beautiful hallway and its a fun hallway. Would you rather be stumbling around lost looking for all the hidden things?
FF8 is decent, the main problems were the Draw-Junction system, which makes magic fubar, and the fact it came after FF7, so it didn't live up to the hype. I myself only felt "daaaamn, I'm deeply involved again!" when I played FFX: started with no hype at all, expecting the game to suck, and was pleasantly surprised - especially by the sphere grid.
It lived up to the hype. Perhaps you weren’t around then. It was exactly like 7 or better in virtually every way. Materia-Junction are mirrored entirely, characters are only separated by limit breaks. Many aspects were simply capitalized on and enhanced or abandoned for being worse. We’re talking about LEGO polygon figures to gorgeous, full-fledged FMVs in 2 years, and characters that actually resemble humans instead of figurines.
@@coolguy02536 I was around then. I like FF8 too, but it's a mix of brilliant and terrible that averages out into something pretty good. The GOAT soundtrack, cool environments and triple triad just about make up for the boring magic drawing, laughably broken battle and character progression systems, mostly forgettable cast and story collapsing halfway through.
People complain about how linear FF13 is before you get to Pulse, but most of the FF games are super linear until late game when you get airships. And they complain about the "hallways" through most of FF13 when FF10, the 3rd most popular in the series, was one the entire game. I actually liked 13 and actually played through it multiple times.
Those people are wearing a special type of glasses, known as nostalgia glasses. They can't see the faults of their favorite games and will raze any game that isn't like it and any one that defends them is idiotic and has no taste in games. In another comment chain I tore apart one person's argument that XIII is a bad game due to it not having Cyrstals in the plot, sadly for him that is where I blew up his argument. I enjoyed the game, it isn't perfect but it didn't deserve the hate it got from fans.
The reason many hate the hallways in 13 and not 10 is because if there's something you missed in 10, you could always go back and tie up any loose ends. In 13, what's done is done.
It's not my favorite, but I think it deserves a way better reputation. When you actually figure out how the game works and you get the card mod ability... you dont need to draw as much and you get super strong really early in the game And the remaster version is amazing (with speed up/no encounters/ and limit break buttons) so it's crazy better!!
There are a lot of us out there, can i just say to the haters .Think how boring and limited life would be if everyone liked the same thing.I love the FF13 Trilogy
After I picked up the game again after a few years (I rented it and got stuck on odin) I actually really liked it. I want to pick up 13-2 and maybe lightning returns. (But I will need a guide for that game)
people criticized newer games because they hate change....square aint gonna sell you the same shit over and over with just new characters/story....thats what you classic players fail to realize. ive beaten all but FF4. they all have their own spark to them. and if you noticed they all have something different....ffI the origin...FF2 the stat growth and spell growth...ff3 the origin of jobs...ff4 the first legit story..ff5 revamp of the job system...ff6 the esper learning system...ff7 the materia system main limit origin..ff8 the junction system...ff9 trance system along with the return of character based jobs...ff10 the sphere grid..ff10-2 had the dresspheres...ff11 the online...ff12 total revision of past systems...ff13 taking the series in a new direction with the paradigm system..ff13-2 was a slight upgrade from the first game...ff14 is an upgrade of 11..you guys fail to realize that no matter how much whining and bitching you do you cant go back in time. you guys need to either adapt or get left. you dont like the new games? dont play it duhhh.. the fuck....if i dont like to eat something i aint gonna fucking eat it and thats that lol...no lets run to the internet and bash shit we dont like behind computer screens and bash people because they like games that you dont like. you know full well these are HIS OPINIONS yet you still type away....internet home to cyber warriors that wont stop until their opinion is law lol grow tf up 😂😂😂
I'm happy you defended ff13. final fantasy 13 is one of my favorite ff games honestly. It's not perfect and there are a lot of things I don't like but over all it was a very enjoyable experience.
Honestly FF is filled with fucking terrible mechanics! For me, any mechanic that requires you to restart some monotonous procedure over and over again to have the slight chance to do something you want is so damn annoying. It’s the worst! EDIT: Preach brother! Your criticism of FFXII rare items is a perfect example of what I had in mind!
I seriously hate that "If the Leader falls, all else falls" Trope, and even in Persona 4, one of my favorite games, is still bogged down by this trope, so if the AI gets all aggro on the leader, well then good luck, because now you can't focus on taking down the enemy when all this time I have to keep healing the leader.
Red Emissary of Darkness tbh Persona 4's characters can't really do anything unless you're there if Ultimax is any indication. Then again, it's one thing I give Persona Q credit for in that Leader death only means Game over on the Hardest Difficulty. Any other difficulty and your party can revive him no problem.
Red Emissary of Darkness I hate when FF13 decides you are losing a fight no matter what you do. I remember getting a game over so many times even before I got a turn cause all enemies threw themselves at the leader.
Sir Jecht If you have at least a ravager and a commando in one of your paradigms the meter will always stay up. Basically the bar will drain faster if you spam magic RAV-RAV-ANY, the bar will fill faster if your team is more balanced RAV-COM-ANY. RAV-RAV-COM was my heavy hitter paradigm, filled the gauge like crazy.
Is Lightning Returns good? I have it but am scared to play it because I have to do a shit ton of side quests to increase my time and I am just bad at time management.
I liked it. The battle system takes a little getting used to but it is very engaging. If you want there are DLC outfits which make the game much easier but I was able to beat it without them. Worst case scenario if you're underleveled for the final boss you have the option to New Game+ to get stronger. I think I was able to beat the main quests by Day 7 (might have been 8) so you should have time to do sidequests. Don't forget Chronostasis.
i liked it too, it has an interesting world, lots of neat pathways and NPCs the brings the world to life, sadly the story is still tied to the previous 2 so none of it makes sense. one tip is to start at the EASIEST difficulty, no use punishing yourself by playing normal or hard on first playthrough. next tip is to use CHRONOSTASIS, like, everytime. this gives you the time to explore the interesting world and have a good time.
On another note, I actually really loved FFXIII. And I honestly don't see how people say Vanille is annoying and hate her. Real talk? She's actually my absolute favorite character in that game. And I do not find her voice annoying. I actually think it fits the whole "childish" theme they were going for, because it's all an act to seem childish. I love it. Anyone else?
I would have to say my number one mehanic that pissed me off is the turn based system in FFX, only because i think it made it too easy defeat most of the bosses, as you know exactly when they are going to attack and its easy to learn when the over powered attacks are coming, just imagine if Barthandelus was in X All of us could have most probably beat him first time around. Now, I dont mind the cutscenes i always revisit games and play them from the start after like a year or two, and still playing X on PS2, the custscenes still leave me in awe because of the graphics for its time is amazing I would say your next video should be a easter eggs of FF because i have played nearly all of the series except 1, 2 ,3 ,6 and the onlines only because i have only just recently purchased online hahahaha and havent got around to purchasing them :) love all your videos man hope you keep them up
Hey DK, did you ever do a top ten favorite mechanics list? Perhaps something positive like that might help you a bit. My condolences for you loss. I won't pressure you to make more videos. Do them when you're ready, not before.
#1 is the level up system in FF2 for sure. It's an interesting concept but it wasn't fine tuned at all and feels either impossible to level certain things up (mp) or incredibly easy and cheap when you grind a specific way for a particular stat (swap / attacking yourself).
I've only played FF's: 7, 8, X, X-2, 12, and 13. I've researched and seen the mechanics of the other games too, but the most irritating 1 came from the draw system in 8. It made no sense to me why they took away MP and their traditional level up system in exchange for this system. Why draw all that magic if we are punished for using it?
***** Combine that with the dungeons in FF III where you have to be Mini or Frog like Neko's Shrine. (That's just unfair to throw that kind of a situation so early in the game.)
+The Quarter Guy Tbh, It's really just a precursor to the job system in ffV, which is the best mechanic in a ff game ever, apart from ffX's battle system imo.
+Carbon61 It's time consuming to just stand there and get hit to increase your HP and speed, or have to attack a bunch of times to level up your weapon. Granted, this is pretty realistic, or about as realistic as you can get when you bring in the concept of magic, because you have to exercise your abilities to increase them, but as shown by Super Hydlide, realistic takes on games may not be the best option...
Cho Tengen Toppa Nep Nep true, cause you actually NEEDED celestial weapons to fight penance in the INT version. So if you plan on a melee character, that's step 1. not sure if magic is nerfed against penance tho, all the stuff I've seen is quick hit and attack reels. i'd love to see someone fight him w/o those and of course, zanmato
Well... He did specifically say in the intro that these were game mechanics, not things like the story, characters, enemies/bosses, sidequests, etc. Pretty sure the ultimate weapons of X are considered side quests.
FFXIII used that game over condition for a reason. I haven’t played it in a while but iirc it’s due to the necessity of having enemies with dangerous single target attacks, without which, the sentinel class would be useless. If all three characters needed to die to get a game over you could just revive whoever gets hit too hard instead of being forced into using a tank paradigm.
Problem with that is, the Sacrifice mobs and Orphan can cast instant death which has a chance of giving you an immediate Game Over if it's used on your party leader. That is extremely cheap. It's a damn good thing that a Game Over doesn't necessarily send you all the way back to the save point in FF13, because if it did, it would piss off SO MANY PEOPLE it's not even funny. And from my experience, there's no way to prevent instant death in the instant it does connect on your party leader. Even Sentinels are useless in dealing with it, and the accessory that helps guard against it doesn't eliminate that chance completely even if you have 2-3 of them that are fully upgraded. FF12, by comparison, only had one way to get an instant Game Over: letting the Demon Wall reach the door while you're trying to kill it. That made way more sense than a mob going "oh, I just instakilled your party leader, git gud scrub" while you stare at a Game Over screen in rage and disgust. In fact it's actually hard AF to get a Game Over in FF12 unless you're just a total noob who doesn't know what the hell he's doing. Even the superbosses can't do that very easily (well, except the 5 Judges in the Trial Mode)...
@@cameraredeye3115 Yeah I agree it's cheap and dumb. I might have sounded like I was defending it; but I hated everything about FFXIII's battle system even though imo changing classes in battle is potentially a really cool idea in concept. FFXII is indeed a perfect example of the exact opposite, which is a problem also I think - but at least it was fun.
hey DK most of these i agree with but i think one that should've been included was the way you level up in Crisis Core! it was too freaking random! i did not like the way you level up in crisis core
Darkkefka ahhh i thought so its cool for your countdown id probably put it as number 4. but thats just me. where would you put it if you had included it??
Darkkefka I don't think the level up in Crisis Core is a terrible mechanic. Sure it's random, but again it's all based on the random luck chance from the DMV. Heck it's sometimes hilarious if you can get 2 level ups during one battle. Plus if your having trouble "leveling up" there's always the tons of missions you can mess around in and just get tons of point to help raise the chance for the DMV to happen. you also have Aeirth's little invincible thing to help make most fights easy to handle.
***** Actually the LVUP in Crisis Core isn't random there is actually EXP in this game and every ennemi give you some EXP, the thing is it's competely invisible you can't see how many EXP you have and the system is you gain EXP that raise you're chances of LVUP and eventually at a certain point you're 100% sure that you will LVUP so it's not completely random it's just completely hide for obscure reason but if you go check the bestiary on gamefaqs you will see the exact amount of EXP each monster can provide. Also since we start to talk of that let's talk about invisible stat such as the chance for random enconter from FFVI to X they're actually completly random there is an invisible count down that go down each step you make and wher it goes to 0 you get a fight, another invisible stat is Penance the thing is Penance in his second form has actually an invisible Overdrive Gauge this bars fills every he take damage and every time he attacks (the Arms doesn't count for both of the case) and I think when he has been attack or has attack 19 times (I'm not sure) he becomes able to use Judgement Day (if the arms are still here) this is how you deal with Judgement Day on Penance Extreme challenge. Darkkefka I would also add both the Money System, the Drop Rate and because of that the Equipment LVUP system of Final Fantasy XIII this is absolutly incredible how hard it is to get Gils on XIII (and the fact that you don't win Gils in Battle doesn't help at all) and not only that but the things you have to buy to raise your equipment is so fucking expensive that you can never buy them (especially the thing that cost 2 Millions Gils that is required for getting the Ultimate Weapons) and then you have to drop them assumming you can this is fucking crazy I have beat like 50-100 times Long Gui and I have obtain only 2 or 3 times the Rare Item (sorry I'm French so I don't know the English Name) this is bullshit I like XIII but this, Vanille and the Leader die = Game Over system are the only things that piss me off in this game.
Guilaume CORDOBA-MILLAN Really Now?? For a funny thought I always like to believe that there was sorta an EXP for Crisis Core. So again I really don't think Crisis Core has a Worst Mechanic for leveling up. (if anything thats and on and off debate for FF2 IMO, will get to that game eventually and will have a better opinion on that) For the money system in FF13, yeah..... i won't lie on that. I love FF13. but it's kinda painful between trying to get enough money to upgrade most of your weapons to trying to not die from an enemy or a Boss fight with the Mechanic of "If my leader dies, we're doom durr"
The worst part of FFX is switching party members in and out...no only do you have to do this because you need certain characters for certain monsters, but if you a character doesn't participate in a fight in someway, they don't get any XP, so if you're grinding, you need to switch every member in and have them do something (I remember using a lot of pointless potions) just so you can get some XP for them.
Fun video! Agreed on most points. I'd also like to bring up the tedious leveling system from FF2. Neat on paper, a chore in execution. It got better in some of the remakes, where stat level ups became quicker and more predictable, but the very original is just a nightmare.
I haven't run into this one in a while, but spells that would be useful if enemies worth casting them on weren't immune. "Useful useless spells" were magic or items intended to cause useful debuffs on enemies, however the programers made many of the monster types you would want to use the spells on immune to just about all of them. Then the ones that lacked any immunity could just as easily be foiled much faster with average attacks, so their would be no point in wasting time or mana.
felman87 I, too, am one of the seven! Honestly, i thought it wasn't exactly hard. Cie'th Rex took a couple of tries, sure, but he wasn't that hard. Just needed to figure out when to switch into which role, which was a breeze after a try or two. The most annoying trophy, by far, is earning 10.000 coins in the casino and getting the Lucky Coin Fragment. I love XIII-2 as much as i love XIII and Lightning Returns, but it i was asked to play them over again (i played the first two games two tames, and LR a total of four times times now), i would not Platinum a single one, simple because of how annoying some trophies are. Getting to max level and finding all the items/equipments in XIII was a pain... and so was the LR secret boss. But still, i love every single game in this trilogy. Each one has its own kind of feeling and atmosphere to it and they did a great job on these games, despite all the hate these games are getting they will always be some of my favorites.
I need 1 more trophy for FF13 to get platinum. FF13-2 i platinumed like nothing! I havent really played LR because of school but i should be able to now! I cant wait! I NEED PLATINUM FOR FFX13 THOUGH!! :'(
Final Fantasy X is your favorite game of all-time? Wow, I thought I was the only one! That's awesome to see! My favorites list is: 1. Final Fantasy 10 2. Earthbound 3. Final Fantasy 7 4. Final Fantasy 8 5. Final Fantasy 9
where is that at 0:39? did everything but mognet and don't think I've seen that. Also in ffx-2 you have to watch Tidus's overdrives when he's your guest which he can spam.
13 has a worse issue than just the leader dying causes you to lose. Coupled with that problem is the AI is programmed to heal the character with the lowest HP, and if that's not your leader and you get hit with a big attack the AI will decide to ignore your leader so you can watch as they die. Not a big issue late game, but during most of it, it is a huge issue....also the Life spell is worthless for an AI healer....can't use it on your leader, and of course it's a useless spell for the healer themselves if they die. Only good for 1 damn character....ugh I could go on....
You know what other things the AI healer will not do? Not rez the fallen party member unless your leader is at about 80%-90% HP. I got stuck in a loop where I was Sentinel role, mediguarding, at 60% health and Light instead of rezing she kept on healing. Back to 60% when taking dmg and so on. Hmm what else. Oh yeah have the AI synergist use Faith on Fang. Or bravery to himself (Hope) basicly use useless abilities and waste time. Sometimes leave vital buffs for last, Protect for example. So basicaly you had no control over the other party members. Limited leveling up. Up the end of each chapter you where able to develop further. But at the same time you where at max on all 3 roles. You finaly got to Pulse and by that time you thought ok I might max out. No you need to fight the boss at the end of the chapter to get the cool abilities. Oh you finished the game? You passed the "tutorial", now you can max your character. We have an upgrade system but you don't actualy need to use it untill after chapter 11. Story is a subjective matter so I cannot say anything. If you liked it cool. If not, cool again. But they have done many wrong things with the world building and character development (especialy with villains - antagonists). Datalog should be there to keep notes for you for things you learned in the game. Not give you all the backstory for characters and landscapes you visited without any contex ingame. One example. The white hair dude. First time you see him in a cutscene ariving and giving orders. And then datalog updated. Here is his name, his origin etc. Do they expect me to care for him? . FFXIII is a pretty (visualy), mediocre game (not only in comparisson with FF games but with RPGs-JRPGS in general)
Ashley Robinson I was practically crying and rolling in laughter this during his whole commentary. Though because of lack of exposure to spoken (and accented) English, I can't understand quite a bit of what he said. But that's fine, because it's kinda funny to hear him angry and ranting. XD
Chrono Trigger did "random encounters" right, in the 90s. You see a monster, either you avoid it or engage it. In Chrono Cross you could even escape from some bosses in order to prepare.
This list was so spot on it's ridiculous, and id have to say that my only gripe with ff8 was the fact that the junction system was "required" for you to buff your party and build stats, yet they made some of the GF'S MISS-ABLE and LIMITED until practically the end of the game. But to be fair it's not like you needed all of them anyway lol
Dude, I finally felt the pain of #1. Playing through FFX on my PS2, got to Yunalesca, somehow mismanaged my zombied characters, and got murked by megadeath. That was about 10 minutes worth of cutscenes I had to sit through again because of that screw-up.
Darkkefka there are 3 cut-sceans in ffx that made me understand your point 1-yunalaska boss ( i don't need to see the 10 min cut-scean every time i die) 2- yuna and tidus kiss ( my family ALWAYS get the wrong idea every time they see....this type of cut-scean) 3-when aorun join the party after the blitzball game (when tidus and yuna LOL so hard they almost made me believe that tidus was infected by sin poison XD) BTW my favourite ff is 8 but it has ups and downs like every FF ( 13 included )
Acually now they made 3 ports with the steam version on PC and guess what YOU STILL CAN'T SKIT THE CUTSCENES, what the fuck Square. This is the sole reason why it took me months to beat Yunalesca because eventually i got bored of it and didn''t feel like watching the same cutscene for the tenth time, even if it is a really nice cutscene. What's funny is that there is a mod for the Steam version called "Untitled" Project X and one of the things they have planned for it is skippable cutscenes, you see Square? We want this!!
I agree. The longest cut scenes in that game always come before the hardest bosses (shout out also to Seymour Flux and Braska's Final Aeon). It really is a double wammy and they should fix that the next time they port the game.
DK I'm sorry for your loss. These top 10's never get old, I love them. Man random encounters are irritating, just trying to get from point A to B and encounter, even when you literally just got out of one and two seconds later in mid run, bam another one. I also agree about Final Fantasy X (or any game really) not letting you skip cutscenes. If your stuck on a boss it's a bitch to have to watch a long ass cutscene over and over (Ugh I remember back in the day when I had to go through that with Lady Yunalesca and Braska's Final Aeon. Along with possessed Riku in Kingdom Hearts gah! I wanted to shoot myself cause I just wanted to get back in there and fight) It's nice someone in the comments gave an explanation for why they didn't let you skip the cutscenes in FFX but it's still a pain. I don't play video games as much as I used to (usually just watch game walkthroughs) so I didn't play FF 13 myself (and I can imagine that leader is dead=instant game over being annoying as hell) but I agree that game gets too much hate. I don't get it, now the unnecessary sequels I kind of agree there (didn't care for them much and thought the stories were weak and unneeded) but the first game is really good. When it comes to FF 7 and beyond, my least favorite FF is 12. The game just bored me to death compared to other FF's. My favorite is FF X.
I've only gotten about halfway through Final Fantasy. I think I stopped somewhere around the time you could upgrade the jobs you chose. I remember getting the Earth and Water Crystal.
13 gets hate because it deserves it. Your love of the females is to a point that it ridiculously clouds your perspective. 13 and its sequels have caused an exodus of original fans the likes of which I've never seen in another game franchise. It's objectively shit compared to ther est of the series. Get over it. We know Vanille is your waifu, but 13 blows, brosef!
what? lol...for me one of the downfalls is X and X-2. XIII never will be one of my favorites, but it wasn't as bad as many want it to be. If you accepted the fact it tried something different and acted accordingly (and yes i also hate the linearity...so i do in FFX) i can see where the hates come from, but many arguments supporting the hate can also be applied to FFX (except the battlesystem) XIII-2 blew me away back then, i really couldn't believe that after XIII its sequel could be so much better, that whole pokemonaspect and battlesystem was really great...the story was just confused horseshit for the sake of being confused horseshit...but i freaking loved the gameplay. Lightning returns, was intriguing at the beginning...but fell flat pretty fast for me and is still to this day the only FF i have never finished. You should just accept the fact, opinions can differ and objectively it wasn't a bad game, it was just not a real FF, like it used to be...and again, the same counts for FFX imo, because it was the first game, with major changes to a for decades loved formula...and Tidus sucks ass hahaha.
have to agree with you on the cutscenes, why not skippable? you know, if i play through the game 10 times, why do i be forced to watch the cutscenes OVER AND OVER AND OVER?
+Belias So you can listen to Tidus and Yuna laugh every time! Would be so troll of them to add some update to the FFX remake to make cutscenes skippable, except for that one.
Great list. I would personally just switch some placements around, but all the thngs on it I wholeheartly agree with. Random battles is a dated concept, but a concept that can work with just adding a on/off option or a rate slider. Some RPGs have done this and it works great. Also love how everyones main complaint about 13 is that it's linear with no sidetracking. Would be a legit complaint if the same people didn't have 10 as one of their favourite game, but no mention there.
12:27 That's also a problem in the Persona games. If Minato/Yu/Akira/whoever your protag is dies, it's a Game Over (because apparently you can't just revive him with your other party members for some stupid reason).
I thought for sure Draw was going to be closer to the #1 spot. FF8 is my second fave game of all time (it was 1 till FF10 came out) and even I hated that crap. :(
You really don't have to Draw Magic if you invest a couple of hours into Triple Triad (and I'm not talking about hours of card playing, either. In about two hours, you can get the cards to refine some of the best Magic in the game early on). When I play Final Fantasy VIII, I have Zell and Squall at nearly 4k HP and 70ish-80ish Strength on Disc One cause I'm able to get 100 Tornado, Quake, Curaga, Death, Zombie, etc.
Once I obtained lionheart. that was my #1 use, I leave squall critical, or phoenix down him at critical and lionheart everyone, including bosses. most everything else. didnt work worth anything.. only when I accidently healed him, rested, or the game automatically healed everyone due to some special scene. made me mad!
You have a new subscriber here. You're honest, you love FFX and you mentioned Queen and Quistis, which most people never do since everyone is just obsessed with Tifa.
There are only two mechanics in the FF series that I really hate. The first is the Job system in FF3. I don't mind the multiple jobs themselves (that is actually kind of cool), but I hate that after you switch your stats get lowered for a while. And since this game basically relies on you using the job system effectively it means that you have to grind when you get a new job or you want to use a job for an upcoming boss. And yes, I know that FF3 isn't the only game with this kind of problem, but it really made me hate the game after a while. The second thing I hate is the unskippable summons in several of the FF series. Look, I get it Square, you are good and making pretty animations, but I have watched this way too many times can I please get a way to skip these animations? The worst is probably FF8 since its summons take so long and you can't even just watch them, you have to press buttons to get the max power. It is annoying, it is tedious, and it wastes too much damn time.
Bryan Blackner OMG THXX YOU.. like that shit is incredibly annoying.. like who thought it was a good idea to practically have no pheonix downs in shops.. finding them in chests doesn't even help because they're stupidly rare
Bullshit on that FF XIII rant, that shit is reversed. It's not people who hate XIII that try to convince other people to hate it, it's people that like XIII that try to convince other people to like it. The consensus is that the game was poorly made, that's why people don't need to convince others to hate the game. Why should we when that's the popular opinion? But that's exactly the reason you'll see people trying to convert others into liking the game. When a person likes something that is overwhelmingly maligned and chastised they need to hear what they like praised by others because people have a natural need to have their opinions validated. "The game is not that bad," that's someone trying to convince other people of that, but I can talk all day about things *_I_* didn't like and make it perfectly clear that I hated the world's longest hallway tour simulator.
ReiAyanami8 I see your point, but trust me, it was really getting annoying. Anytime I talked about FF13 or Vanille, I got hate comments from people..telling me the game sucks, and I shouldn't include it in my videos, and that I shouldn't use Vanille, ect, ect.
Darkkefka I'm not doubting you for a second. I have no doubt that some people can't just express their opinion and be done with it. And I wasn't trying to say that everyone who dislikes the game are shining examples of restraint.
ReiAyanami8 I know, I was justifying myself. In fact, look at my top 10 summons vid and search for a comment posted by Jonathan Garrad and you'll see what I'm talking about. He posted 2 of them. One of them is about the game. This is just 1 of MANY of these....
While I love Lightning Returns, the stupid clock system is what stops the game from being on my list of favorite games. It just causes too much stress for me. In my first run through, I completed all the content available to me by the end of Day 3 by abusing Chronostasis. I just can't relax when that clock is running.
Fantastic list. I totally agree with #1 not only for ff10 but for any game with unskippable cutscenes. If I were to add anything to this list, it would be items that are obscenely hard to obtain due to obscure/unknown methods, like the zodiac spear from ff10 for example
I still don't understand why unskippable cutscenes is still being used. It makes sense when some scenes requires player inputs, like choosing options, but during the animated ones with no such requirements, should they be skipped at least?!
dude, the final fantasy 8 draw system was to add another tactical layer to the game. determining which strong spells to junction and which to save for combat. FF8 was just as amazing as the rest. you just a hater
Just to show one of the best attack spells in the game: who the fuck is going to cast Ultima, when a basic attack will do more damage faster and without a cost, if I junction Ultima to it? Even then, why the fuck would I regularly use Ultima, knowing I have to draw it in order to keep the stock up? Also, not every area will provide access to draw to Ultima. I know Ultima is "Teh Pwn", but these observations apply throught the game to the best spells avaliable for junction [like elemental-dagas] at given times [usually when they become avaliable]: they either excel at junction and it is not wise to cast them, or they are no longer the best junction option - and by that time physical attack surpasses them. It is not fun, the need to hoard the best spells all the time in order to be optimal and to avoid the boredom of draw.
I saw the title, and my first thought was the Trance system in IX. It was always so frustrating to have your character get hit and go into Trance only for the battle to end immediately afterwards. I'm so glad they fixed that with X.
I never said it was hard. I said I didn't like it, that it was a dumb game mechanic. I had no trouble, but it was annoying to see it every 10 seconds. Demon Shields absorb Dark, making Zodiark a wimp.
That it is, but I find getting the situations that make the summons in FFXII more of a hassle than fans of FFXII make it out to be, as you gotten Zodiark you know how to get him to use his summon attack, which is to have the summoner have the stone condition at the last ten seconds of his time.
I hate when people bitch about final fantasy 8's draw feature. Other than drawing GF'S from bosses or really strong magic in the latter part of the game, YOU DONT NEED IT! There are more than a few ways to obtain spells in this game to max out stats.
+Aharon K you max out stats by triple triad and drawing, really early in the game. if you don't, you suck at FF8, sorry. but man, FUCK FF8, bad story dude.... (although i like the characters and gameplay)
i'm a big fan of FF8, too. i just dont like the story, thats all. i'm more a fan of the overall experience aswell. but still: if you don't max out stats by drawing and triple triad, you pretty much are ''not good at FF8'' in my opinion. dont take offense about that, everyone can see this differently.
+Aharon K But like how it's said in the video, you don't really know that the first time your playing the game, unless you've followed a guide or something. When you play it the first time, you see that drawing magic is what the game wants you to do and that it is the most straight forward and easiest way to get magic.
I'm with you brother but you need to work on your enunciation and pitch. Certain parts were hard to understand. I mean that with the utmost respect. No shots.
+Darkkefka Don't worry about it, it's simply area difference, I went to new jersey recently and It was hard to make out the English they were saying, and vice versa.
+Ahmed Turner I see. However..here's the difference between you and the people that I have blocked..... you very well know that I was saying the word " revive"..and you criticized it in a respectful way. I know that I don't always speak clearly, but it shouldn't be hard to understand the words I am saying. Many people tend to be assholes and post unneccessary insults on my talking
+Darkkefka I'd never disrespect you. You've done nothing wrong to me. At the end of the day I want you to be great. You seem passionate about making these videos and you have a decent following. Take some time to perfect your craft is all I'm saying. Them people who just say stupid stuff... Fuck em, they're just being mean.
THANK YOU for mentioning the cutscenes! After the first playthroughs I go do something else when they come on. But my biggest peeve was XII's quest for the rare items. I couldn't tell you the number of times I got one, only for it to be weaker than what I already had equipped.
Is not that bad, you just have the assigned healer, the attacker, and the mage, and everything will be a breeze. An example, i just use Guy to fight without weapons, with that he get large hp boost, the strongest attacker, and have the strongest defense, Firion cast magic, and attack with a sword and any other weapon. Maria can cast all kind of magic, and attack once in a while. Just with that the game become easier.
Yeah, till you have HP go down because your agility went up because an enemy missed. If I ever play again I'm just going to have everyone naked and abuse a roughly 98% miss chance. And save for a few swords at the end unarmed will consistently do more damage then any weapon you find.
This is the first video I've seen of yours - had it Recommended on my YT channel - and so I'm not sure if you've played Final Fantasy II? I was kind of expecting the "Monster Closets' to be on this list. This was a feature in FF2 where you just walk into an empty room that has nothing in it except a super-increased encounter rate. To add insult to injury,they teleport you right into the middle of the room so you're guaranteed to fight on your way out. But other than that, great list and I agree 100% about your feelings on XIII and XIII-2.
+Nikkolas Mical I have not. I've said that in many of my vids, so most of my followers know this. I do plan to play them however, and I will update my list when I do play the ones I missed.
I gotta disagree with the FFVIII system-hate. People tend that tend to hate on it tend to not be good with it. Drawing, while time-consuming, is a great system. Especially with the junction system. It was actually great. Ugh... It's unfortunate that you want FFVII changed up more than it should be... If it was like Chrono Cross, I could see the enemies being on-screen... But Square Enix is going to ruin FFVII-remake. No, FF13 sucks. Just, no. It is bad. Also... You're trying to FORCE YOUR BELIEFS of not forcing beliefs on others to other people. You straight up just told people what to say/think. Devil's advocate here. You are guilty of the very same thing you're condemning others for. And FFXIII is bad.
what? The junction system broke FFVIII's difficulty and need for fighting...mby the intention was a good one, but the outcome was an unbalanced mess, where you can beat the whole game with lvl5 and get overpowered without even entering the dungeon to fight Ifrit... the complete game was broken with this system. Don't get me wrong, i love FFVIII but the game is a broken mess.
1) Drawing magic makes magic almost completely useless in the game, especially since you can overlevel very fast AND abuse Limit Breaks anyway. The only spells you need to use in FF8 are the ones DK described... 2) I've seen the FF7 Remake and it's actually not bad. It reminds me of the Active Dimension Battle system from FF12 (which is my favorite). Also, fuck random encounters. They're annoying as shit. 3) Your playing devil's advocate with the whole FF13 mess just proved DK's point. Congratulations.
final fantasy 13 doesn't allow any freedom of movement(only one path through most of the game, with no side branches), there are no decent side quests until near the end, you cannot grind levels when you want to until the end of the game, the battle system is basically hitting auto battle all the time and hoping your characters do the right thing (because choosing the commands you need takes too long due to an extremely poorly sorted command list) when your main character dies it is game over despite the fact that there would be other pcs who can revive you if that wasn't the case, you cannot control the other characters and the limit of the games strategy is switching classes(which would be a good mechanic if it were not the only one you could use on the fly and if it allowed you to switch the classes of individual members instead of only using presets), the majority of the time your character is just healing the other characters because the healing AI sucks. The boss battles are boring extended slogs which fail to be interesting due to the battle system limiting your options. And to top it all of the game feels like an extended tutorial. At least in the other Final Fantasy games I had enough time to select my command or it just straight up paused time, there were side quests, other regions of the map you could explore, the actual ability to grind(ff13s encounters do not even re-spawn) and I didn't want to hit myself with a shovel for how long the bosses took when they were completely uninteresting.
Yeah, 13 had it's problems, but I was able to deal with it. Question if you don't mind. Where you able to find my Top ten video I made back in Dec on the status effects??
just going to say about the grinding part. i found several stops dung the game were it was possible to grind both exp and money ( hopes house for example be just running around the back of the house and they re=spawn) btw i hate 13 but i just thought i would say that.
Doombybbr hit it on the head for me. The game took some of Final Fantasy's most notable factors out and replaced it with some of the most uninteresting, and ideally frustrating games I've ever played. The game had too many flaws for me to enjoy it. I felt too limited and irritated with combat. You're welcome to enjoy FF13, for what it is. But in honesty, it is perhaps the worst installment around.
Most of the people who founded FF and had a vision of what they wanted it to be all jumped ship from square (even their composer left) and that explains the decline in quality from 10 onward. Some people may not agree with decline, okay that's fine. But it's hard to disagree that the series hasn't at least morphed into something completely different since then. Nomura boasts himself up all the time as having played key roles since he's the director now and feels he's up to it but most of the time he was a character designer (just one of them) and helped write certain plot points (under supervision and revision from peers with other writers) and so he believes he shares the same vision as the people who had it originally. Or maybe he wants it to be something different on purpose, I don't know. My overall reaching point though is that 13 is just a symptom of the change in direction of the company. They're not squaresoft anymore with watanabe, they're square enix with nomura. It's gotten to the point where I've become so jaded I'm not really even willing to give 15 a chance. It's really only a ff game in name. I also have extreme doubt that the FF7 remake is going to be faithful at all. Mostly because it's just going to be nomura circle jerking his own version of it and saying "I was on the team bro". The character designs from the trailer were where I expressed my first doubts and seeing the battle system and then the episodic release was what kind of sealed it for me. They'll likely change the script and plot to fit more the new games and rewrite the character personalities to be more in line as well. I'll at least give it a chance, but if it turns the battle system into kingdom hearts-7 and rewrites the plot I'm out for good. Because if a FF7 remake won't do it for me then nothing they make onward will either. But that's just a long digression from someone who's seen one of their favorite genres and franchises transform over time into something completely unrecognizable. I don't really think it's reasonable to lash out at people who said 13 was garbage. It was an inevitability. If you took any other series, lets just say street fighter because of how well known it is, and started turning it from a 2d fighter "because 2d fighters are dead" and turned it into any other genre like a 3d fighter, or drastically altered it's formula as was the case with final fantasy, then you are going to piss a lot of people off regardless of if the game was good by itself or not. and 13 by itself was not so the problem was twofold and thus more hate. My final point being that they put Final Fantasy on it when they were clearly just capitalizing on the name because their intentions were to basically reboot the series which pissed off a lot of people. Which might sound weird since the plots aren't related but the mechanical elements from 1-10 were similar with unique quirks IE leveling to 99 while managing materia, jobs, spheres, ect. After that, the only thing the series seems to have retained is it's emphasis on grandiose storytelling and that's it. They basically want them to be action games with a high focus on cinematics more akin to western style games.
Omg Finally someone who defends FF13! I don't know why the fuck they just hate it WTF! XD I TOTALLY agree with you about FF13 (Except Serah XD but that's other thing though) You gain a like and a new subscriber. I really enjoy your vids :)
I don't even know why so many people hate that game. The characters were a MAJOR step up from FFX, and they weren't nearly as cliche as people made them out to be. I mean, what a concept, they actually AREN'T instantly best friends the minute they join up with one another. But best of all, they weren't annoying.
ffxiii the whole series was good to me, especially the antagonists besides bhenivelze (hated him) but the characters in ffxiii series had more personality and they were just likable to me I've played all but 1-3 and 14 of the games and 13(-2, lightning returns) are my favorites plus the characters from that series are my favorites, sazh caius lightning snow vanille (same reason as a lot of people) cid Raines and a few others. the story line has a lot more to it and has side things happening as well as the main which tie into each other like dajh turning to stone is the first game. the o my thing I don't like about it is the atb and the gauge, then auto battle. lightning returns battle is better. but for others besides the battle they are really good games
The game seems like you're supposed to hate the linearity. It felt like you had no control, somebody making your decisions. Funny, just like the protagonists. I love how this game makes me connect to the characters in such a manner. Pretty ingenious.
+JdiJwa Agreed, the character development is one of the best points of FF XIII IMO. And on the subject of linearity, a certain someone REALLY wants us to complete our Focus...
true. altho i finished that game 2 times already, and both times i had fun. there is a work around the system (hitting yourself), it is grindy, but not much and i say its the same as the other titles, just a different kind of grind, but again, that just be becoz of my playstyle (i try to over level as much as i can)
I feel like skippable cutscenes should be in more RPG's in general. It helps with the replay value, especially if the games have NG+.
***** I agree. What i also like is the idea is being able to skip the cutscene, but only after you have seen it once. Won't miss any of the story or dialogue, still has replay value. I think The World Ends With You did this, not sure about other games. Tales of Xillia did it too, i think, though i am not too sure if you can't just skip scenes in general in that game.
AbsolsDarkClaw You can. You can skip literally any scene in the game lol
***** One of the things I love about the Xenosaga series, and Xenoblade Chronicles.
***** The choice is always an important one, I enjoy a good cutscene now and then but after playing a tales game for about five to six times (my gameplay of those style games usually exceeds 200 hours easy lol) or similarly styled games I find that skipping at least the more....boring scenes is an important function dood)
***** But they should never be one-button skips. I like the way KH does it because you have to select "Skip Scene" on purpose. I can't count the number of times I've played games where you just press start or + to skip the scene and accidentally skipped it.
dont forget that if you die fighting yunalesca you have to rewatch the 10 minute cut scene all over again!!!! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKK!!!!!
it almost happened to me yesterday thank god i let my party with zombie statut that was pure luck lol
Fuck Yunalesca in the eye. Fuck that fight.
Cloud_StrifeEx the main issue I had with the fight is the zombie status effect. It took me like 5 times of trial and error to realise that zombie was the thing actually saving me in that fight XD
If you die after defeat Evrae (FFX) to those Monks and Machina, you have to fight Evrae again, now that´s a bitch.
Wait ppl die to her? I never had the slightest problem with her
hearing someone defend 13 like this makes me really happy :')
@Águila701 Square enix, and ff13 was good for me. Sure the story wasn't good but some fights were good
Yeah, the fights were pretty cool. Except Barthandelus...fuck that guy lol
FF 13 wasn't a bad game, people just hate because it's too linear.
Me too 😭❤️
Why does everyone hate ff13 because of being so linear?!! ff10 is also linear but everyone loves that game!!
FFX is designed in a way where the game's assets are meant to load during cutscenes, which is why you can't skip them. It would have been a hassle for them to re-structure the game to change that for the HD remaster, so they decided not to do it.
but the unskippable scenes is definitely what keeps me from enjoying the game, it just becomes super tedious to sit through.
yuuxi 西 I find the best way to make them less annoying is to just grab a snack, get a drink, or just have a handy youtube video ready so you can do something else while the cutscene plays out. At least the good stuff during post game is mostly cutscene free.
gain about 15 pounds by endgame haha, but yeah, that's pretty much the only way to deal with it :/
you must make some hellacious snacks if they have that kind of power.
yuuxi 西 It makes sense BUT a lot of games have something like "Cannot skip now,game is loading" kind of thing.....WHY WOULD THEY NOT HAVE THIS?
yuuxi 西 It makes sense for the original PS2 game, but there's no reason the PS3/PS4 remaster of FFX doesn't have skippable cutscenes.
7:18 Honestly This would easily be number 1 for me. If a random encounter rate is too high, it will literally kill a game for me that I would have otherwise enjoyed. Seriously fuck random encounters.
***** Naoto is there for the normal encounters
MasakanSolaris I believe there was one FF game (actually might have been the first one) that had glitter on the floor, this fun sparkly dust caused a fight every time you stepped on it and there were levels ladled with the stuff, so yeah random encounters stopped phasing me after that lol dood XD
MasakanSolaris To each their own. I personally love random encounters. The newer gen FF's where you get to pick the battles makes the game un playable to me. I havent played one since FFX. I keep trying to play 12 but i just can't. I really wish they would find a way to satisfy both sides of the fence. Now I was able to play XI but that was because it was an MMO, and obviously random battles wouldnt work to well in a MMO.
xXDarkHolidayXx
Please explain this to me how you actually prefer random encounters.
MasakanSolaris Maybe he likes that he can power level characters that he really hasn't put as much effort into like his other characters. If that is the case, I can get behind that because that's why I kinda like random encounters.
FFX Lightning Dodging.
Never ever had I feel more rage at a game than attempting to get that 200th dodge.
just for a fucking sigil XD
😂😂😂
That cutscene thing is so deserving to be number 1 lol
+Malystrixiel it truely is.
haha sorry I never played FF2 so I don't know that.
+JT Nelson FF2 was so fun with the stats. You get to create your characters however you wish, and grow their stats how ever you want. I loved it.
+Sogreth89 yeah, it allowed for so much freedom, although it was a bit tedious to do some things.
still, osmose on zombies got my MP up to 999 REAL fast....
It's literally the bane of my existence. Even my livestreams have me moaning we can't skip them.
It's amazing how many people bitch about how they can't "understand" me when I talk. And yet, these are some of the same people who seem to have no problem hearing every word I said when I'm defending FF 13.....
They obviously hate the game.
This is why I don't put up with those bastards who rant on my talking. They are just being dicks.
+Darkkefka I remember watching your videos months ago, and apparently people had issues with that. Your newer work is much more refined, and I know, because I criticised you on some of your top 10 videos being 'too long' in terms of pauses in speech and footage which wasn't necessary.
I've found you've improved a lot, plus I'm pretty sure the thing about people 'not being able to understand you' is a long running troll intended to get a rise out of you like this.
Just keep doing what you're doing and ignore the trolls mate.
This is the internet, opinions for some reason are always heard louder than the rest of the given context. I enjoyed FFXIII and no longer see reason to have to try "defending" it. The people that don't like it feel so strongly about their disliking for it that no amount of reason breaks through.
It's hopeless, pointless, and down right pitiful.. How incapable some individuals are at accepting differing opinions blows my mind. Don't let these dicks slow your content down, and don't let them alter your mood. They aren't worth it.
+Darkkefka english not being my native language, I sometimes have issues with understanding your accent. It was more of an issue in the past when I first discovered your videos, but I grew accustomed to it and even if sometimes I still have to go back a few seconds to really understand a word, I generally have no real problems understanding you. So yeah, I think they are dicks.
Plus, I have to admit that half of the reasons I watch your videos is how you narrate them. It's pretty damn funny, in a very good way. Especially when you rant.
Yeah most people say Final Fantasy died after 10. but 12 was pretty good to play. 13 had its ups and downs but I liked most of the combat. except the countdowns on the first and third and not being able to control the monsters on 13-2
Bryan Davis I agree. I think all final fantasy games have something to bring to the table. Even the one I think is the weakest, like FF X-2, is still a good game with a great job system. Plus, if someone bitches about a youtuber including games they don't like, why don't they do videos saying how much those games suck ass in their opinion ? Just because one doesn't share an opinion, doesn't mean he has the right to be a dick about it.
The levelling system in FF2. Holy shit it is BAD. You have to do practically everything in battle to level up your characters in a balanced way. If you want to equip better weapons, you gotta attack. If you want more HP to survive endgame bosses, you gotta take damage and block enemy attacks. If you want to level up magic, you gotta use spells. And so on.
And yes, the #1 pick on this list is 100% relatable. Both the Steam and the PS4 HD ports of FFX forgot to add the option to skip cutscenes so if you die to say, Seymour Flux or Yunalesca, you gotta sit through 10 minutes of cutscenes EVEN ON THE HD REMASTER! Why the FUCK did Square Enix forget that feature for FFX and yet include it in KH1 Final Mix?! That is beyond stupid, especially since you can just watch the cutscenes in the in-game library and/or here on YT anyway. I do NOT want to keep sitting through every goddamn cutscene in FFX every time I want to play through the game. I don't care how good the story is.
A lot of dislikes on this one. I wonder if most came from me defending ff13......
+Darkkefka Maybe, I know a lot of people dont like the game. I personaly loved it, but everyone has an opinion and their entitled to it.
+Darkkefka 85% of people that don't like FF13 feel that way because they got owned by the first Eidolon and rage quit.
Truth.
+jthomcres If there are people who actually lost that fight against the shiva sisters, ive lost faith in humanity.
puttymon I could see people spamming attacks and wondering why it's not working. I don't think you can actually die though, since the one sister heals you constantly, it's more running out of time before you realize that you're literally just supposed to stand there and use steelguard.
+Darkkefka I disliked because of the random encounter comment at first but I removed it :(
In Response to Pedro Joaquim's comment:
I really hate people who post comments and never leave people a chance to respond to them.
Okay, I will give you a few points since you are right in the fact that I never played 1,2, or 3. However, I've noted this hundreds of times. And I have indeed played 4,5, and 6. I have full LPS of those game to proove it.
Now, there was nothing complicated about the FF5 job system. I started to include it in the list, but I found these more annoying.
About the FFX cut scenes..this is a game that some of us like to play over many times. And after we've seen the story hundreds of times, we don't need to see it anymore. Especially when we're doing a Low level game challenge and losing to a boss over and over again..forcing us to watch the same 10 minute cut scene again.
+Darkkefka ff1 and 3 are a bit meh, but i recomend the ff2, just for the history, really just for that
still i do not belive it was a problem, i played ff12 several times on ps2 (it was my first ff, strange but yeah...) and still didnt had problems with cutscene, i agree that its frustating when u are in a boss fight and after dying u just want to jump right back in action, but still not so much as losing a game because the leader died, or having random encounters every 5 seconds with sometimes monster that cant even deal more than 1 dmg to you...
btw since we have diferent opinions, not going far with it, just stating once more that for me, ff5 job system would make a good place in the list since it a game mechanic and a really bad one that i belive many agree, because on the first time playing it every1 will have a bad time in doing the right jobs, even more if they do not find the mime job
And sorry if i sounded hateful in saying that u didnt play games before the ff7, was not my intention and only realize after i sent the comment ... sry x)
+Pedro Joaquim "Not Clayton! Ee-oo-oo-oo-ah! Not Clayton!" x50 makes me slightly inclined to disagree here. If we're talking Pokemon though, random encounters with a level 16 Zubat every six steps in every cave ever can die in a grease fire. Switching it up once in a while with a level 17 Geodude doesn't help. Would it have killed the developers to decrease the chances of a random encounter based on how overlevelled you are for an area? My level 59 Blaziken is not amused, level 14 Spinda asshat, gtfo of my way, and tell your over 9000 brothers and sisters in this one 6x6 patch of grass to do the same.
+Pedro Joaquim and thats the way the cookie crumbles.
After I saw the story of FFX ONE time, I didn't need to see it anymore. I knew it was terrible after the first playthrough. I did like the gameplay though (particularly the battle system), and the remastered version at least lets you skip the cutscenes, which is a major improvement over the PS2 North American version.
ur the man darkkefka just ignore the haters bro I like ur videos
Bravely Default/Second and Earthbound are two games which perfected the whole "random encounter" system. Bravely allowed you to adjust the random encounter rate (from 0% to 200%), while Earthbound had an overpower mechanic. Simply put, if you encountered a monster and it stood no chance of winning, you weren't even teleported to the battle screen. You walked around the world map and the XP and money/items were just automatically added to your totals. Made backtracking through early maps much faster..
Darkkefka Thank you. Your rant on FF13 is something I've been saying for forever. Most of the people who say that 13 sucks are the humongous 7 fanboys who have only played 7 yet thinks it's the best game in the series and the best game ever. Others complain about how it takes to long to get going and there's even people who simple bitch about how Lightning has too many games yet we both know that only LR is about her. 13 was about ALL of the L'cie not just Lightning and 13-2 was about Serah and Noel
Flaming Gilgamesh I do agree with you, but as a FFVII fan, please don't group me in with them. FFXIII doesn't deserve the negative hype it gets and out of the entire series of FF games, it is the easiest to play and finish. That is not a neg on the game, it is a good game for beginners to start with and then branch into the others. I've played most, not the MMOs, of the games in the series, and still don't see how FFXIII gets hated, sure FFVII is my all time favorite, but I don't hate FFXIII, FFIII for the DS on the other hand is a different story. Some of the reasons it is hated I find funny: its too Linear, duh its in RPG; The summons are bad, at least they went with the original summons and not the the same mechanic of FFXII. Every FF game has something that makes it less than perfect, FFVII is far from perfect and I'm a fan of it. FFXIII is far from perfect just like the others in the long line of titles.
Flaming Gilgamesh Not a Fanboy of FFVII and still think FFXIII sucks. I find FFXIII-2 more entertaining and funny.
Triser Tricordoh XIII is not the easiest game to play and finish.
XIII had a giant difficulty spike at chapter 11 and 13, I've seen people, almost at max crystarium, struggling with Orphan.
VI, VII and IX are probably the easiest to play the first time because all 3 of them can easily be beaten without any grinding. Hell, I even beat IX at level 30.
I hate the entire XIII trilogy and I don't care for VII. X and X-2 are the only FF games that I really care about and they're the only ones that stuck with me. Hell X-2 is my favorite RPG ever and that game gets criticized almost as much as XIII.
Triser Tricordoh I didn't mean to say ALL fans of 7. I meant the ones who worship it and spam it everywhere and treat it like it's the best thing ever
"... Look I know how good this chick really is and im also a pervert so this is who im gonna fucken use!" - DK.
That crack me up. I know how you feel sometime.
DemonAshuraX Oops forgot to add... I didnt like FFXII battle system.. Way to slow and hard but i know one battle system i really like is FFX-2. Love it.
+DemonAshuraX Dude I _love_ the battle system on 12 because you can do so much with it compared to other FF games. Like, if you know a boss is about to go ham on your party with its big attack, just reduce the party to one character and have him tank the hit for everyone else (before anyone gets targeted); meanwhile, the others coming in after him can bench him and heal him up while counterattacking.
Or if you want to create an immortal bait character, Reverse + Decoy on that character and have him do nothing but attack.
Or if you know you can block/absorb an enemy's super AoE with equipments in your inventory, just load up the equip screen mid-battle and swap equipments on the fly (much like activating a trap card or two in response to an opposing monster's attack, if you're into Yu-Gi-Oh!). This works especially well against Ultima and Zodiark and also helps against Chaos's Aeroja and Yiazmat's Cyclone.
Or if you want to interrupt a character's move (even while it's being used), swap equipments on the fly and the action is negated instantly. This is basically the "counter trap" method (think, Yu-Gi-Oh! references).
And the list goes on and on. I can list about 100 more possibilities with the FF12 battle system, but that would take too much time xD
+DemonAshuraX Could you explain more in-depth why you don't like the FFXII battle system? I'm curious. :)
+Falthier _ Auto play by gambits and spell queue
GhoullyXX
That's why you can turn gambits off though
Am I the only one who loved FF8??? My fave one along with 6 and 10
The draw and Junction system is so easy to break in VIII.
Oh yeah, with some card playing grinding you can have 100 full lifes before leaving to timber
I believe the Trance system works that way in IX specifically to KEEP you from saving them all for the bosses. Having them be used the moment you get them means that you'll get to use their benefits more often, because the devs knew that given the option, every player would just hoard their entire party with trance until a boss, then steamroll it.
I never got much of a chance to play FF XIII. My Ps3 stopped reading discs and I've never bothered to fix it. The little i did play it I remember it being massively frustrating. 12:01 is exactly why. That's a joke, how did that ever make it through play testing? Being tied to the leader isn't the problem with that game. Being given inadequate control of everyone, including that leader, is.
Bro, this was great, spot on. I love your attitude and presentation, especially in comparison to how literally everyone else does their reviews and lists.
Stay true, my man.
Currently playing through X now and yeah unskippable cutscenes is bs especially when you die to a boss that has like 10+ mins of cutscenes between save sphere and boss. You can laugh but I'm struggling with yunalesca.
The only one that's taken more than 2 attempts and after the 6th time watching the cutscene I called it quits for the day.
RemnantOfThePast she's a tad tricky, have you watched any guides on how to beat her? or do you keep getting the short end of the stick?
RemnantOfThePast YOUR HOPE ENDS HERE
AND YOUR MEANINGLESS EXISTENCE WITH IT!
I still hate this quote with a burning passion.
RemnantOfThePast Remember to leave Zombie status on at least one party member so that Mega Death doesn't wipe you. If you don't wanna deal with it, Auto Life is a great workaround.
RemnantOfThePast ...I feel your pain. Not in FFX, but in the original Kingdom Hearts. Do not get me started on how many times I have watched the cutscenes before the Maleficent Dragon and Ansem Riku fights. And both of them are just long enough to be annoying, especially the Ansem Riku one.
Just leave zombie status on some of your characters so when she casts mega death you'll be immune to it or just search up videos on how people killed her, good luck !
Agreed. I dont understand the hate on 13. I will agree, its a hallway. but it will eventually open up into a much larger room, besides its a beautiful hallway and its a fun hallway. Would you rather be stumbling around lost looking for all the hidden things?
Dang alot of people really do hate FF8, I actually really enjoyed it
Lol yeah and a lot of people really hate 7 too bro.
What are you thinking.
FF8 is decent, the main problems were the Draw-Junction system, which makes magic fubar, and the fact it came after FF7, so it didn't live up to the hype. I myself only felt "daaaamn, I'm deeply involved again!" when I played FFX: started with no hype at all, expecting the game to suck, and was pleasantly surprised - especially by the sphere grid.
It lived up to the hype. Perhaps you weren’t around then. It was exactly like 7 or better in virtually every way. Materia-Junction are mirrored entirely, characters are only separated by limit breaks. Many aspects were simply capitalized on and enhanced or abandoned for being worse. We’re talking about LEGO polygon figures to gorgeous, full-fledged FMVs in 2 years, and characters that actually resemble humans instead of figurines.
@@coolguy02536 I was around then. I like FF8 too, but it's a mix of brilliant and terrible that averages out into something pretty good. The GOAT soundtrack, cool environments and triple triad just about make up for the boring magic drawing, laughably broken battle and character progression systems, mostly forgettable cast and story collapsing halfway through.
@@fabesey2016 If you felt that way, I wouldn't want to imagine the disappointment 9 offered.
People complain about how linear FF13 is before you get to Pulse, but most of the FF games are super linear until late game when you get airships. And they complain about the "hallways" through most of FF13 when FF10, the 3rd most popular in the series, was one the entire game. I actually liked 13 and actually played through it multiple times.
Those people are wearing a special type of glasses, known as nostalgia glasses. They can't see the faults of their favorite games and will raze any game that isn't like it and any one that defends them is idiotic and has no taste in games. In another comment chain I tore apart one person's argument that XIII is a bad game due to it not having Cyrstals in the plot, sadly for him that is where I blew up his argument. I enjoyed the game, it isn't perfect but it didn't deserve the hate it got from fans.
The reason many hate the hallways in 13 and not 10 is because if there's something you missed in 10, you could always go back and tie up any loose ends. In 13, what's done is done.
Hahaha I absolutely love your style and your speech. So refreshing and different! GJ on your videos man they're top notch. Love from France
Actually FF8 remains my fave in the series.
It's not my favorite, but I think it deserves a way better reputation. When you actually figure out how the game works and you get the card mod ability... you dont need to draw as much and you get super strong really early in the game
And the remaster version is amazing (with speed up/no encounters/ and limit break buttons) so it's crazy better!!
Finally. FINALLY!! Someone who likes FF13!!! I'm not the only one!!!!!
You're not alone. I'm with you.
Team XIII Lovers represent!
There are a lot of us out there, can i just say to the haters .Think how boring and limited life would be if everyone liked the same thing.I love the FF13 Trilogy
After I picked up the game again after a few years (I rented it and got stuck on odin) I actually really liked it. I want to pick up 13-2 and maybe lightning returns. (But I will need a guide for that game)
:p your not the only one big fan here
because of the unskipable cut scenes it took two hours to leave Luca and get to the Mi'hien highroad
people criticized newer games because they hate change....square aint gonna sell you the same shit over and over with just new characters/story....thats what you classic players fail to realize. ive beaten all but FF4. they all have their own spark to them. and if you noticed they all have something different....ffI the origin...FF2 the stat growth and spell growth...ff3 the origin of jobs...ff4 the first legit story..ff5 revamp of the job system...ff6 the esper learning system...ff7 the materia system main limit origin..ff8 the junction system...ff9 trance system along with the return of character based jobs...ff10 the sphere grid..ff10-2 had the dresspheres...ff11 the online...ff12 total revision of past systems...ff13 taking the series in a new direction with the paradigm system..ff13-2 was a slight upgrade from the first game...ff14 is an upgrade of 11..you guys fail to realize that no matter how much whining and bitching you do you cant go back in time. you guys need to either adapt or get left. you dont like the new games? dont play it duhhh.. the fuck....if i dont like to eat something i aint gonna fucking eat it and thats that lol...no lets run to the internet and bash shit we dont like behind computer screens and bash people because they like games that you dont like. you know full well these are HIS OPINIONS yet you still type away....internet home to cyber warriors that wont stop until their opinion is law lol grow tf up 😂😂😂
I'm happy you defended ff13. final fantasy 13 is one of my favorite ff games honestly. It's not perfect and there are a lot of things I don't like but over all it was a very enjoyable experience.
Honestly FF is filled with fucking terrible mechanics! For me, any mechanic that requires you to restart some monotonous procedure over and over again to have the slight chance to do something you want is so damn annoying. It’s the worst!
EDIT: Preach brother! Your criticism of FFXII rare items is a perfect example of what I had in mind!
I seriously hate that "If the Leader falls, all else falls" Trope, and even in Persona 4, one of my favorite games, is still bogged down by this trope, so if the AI gets all aggro on the leader, well then good luck, because now you can't focus on taking down the enemy when all this time I have to keep healing the leader.
Red Emissary of Darkness tbh Persona 4's characters can't really do anything unless you're there if Ultimax is any indication. Then again, it's one thing I give Persona Q credit for in that Leader death only means Game over on the Hardest Difficulty. Any other difficulty and your party can revive him no problem.
The Sapphire Carbuncle This. I hate Persona Q but it's probably the best feature.
Red Emissary of Darkness I hate when FF13 decides you are losing a fight no matter what you do. I remember getting a game over so many times even before I got a turn cause all enemies threw themselves at the leader.
The main reason I don't like 13 is because i'm not good at getting the meter up. I don't think it really sucks or anything.
Sir Jecht If you have at least a ravager and a commando in one of your paradigms the meter will always stay up. Basically the bar will drain faster if you spam magic RAV-RAV-ANY, the bar will fill faster if your team is more balanced RAV-COM-ANY. RAV-RAV-COM was my heavy hitter paradigm, filled the gauge like crazy.
Thank you for doing this even during these harsh days.
Is Lightning Returns good? I have it but am scared to play it because I have to do a shit ton of side quests to increase my time and I am just bad at time management.
I liked it. The battle system takes a little getting used to but it is very engaging. If you want there are DLC outfits which make the game much easier but I was able to beat it without them. Worst case scenario if you're underleveled for the final boss you have the option to New Game+ to get stronger. I think I was able to beat the main quests by Day 7 (might have been 8) so you should have time to do sidequests. Don't forget Chronostasis.
i liked it too, it has an interesting world, lots of neat pathways and NPCs the brings the world to life, sadly the story is still tied to the previous 2 so none of it makes sense. one tip is to start at the EASIEST difficulty, no use punishing yourself by playing normal or hard on first playthrough. next tip is to use CHRONOSTASIS, like, everytime. this gives you the time to explore the interesting world and have a good time.
On another note, I actually really loved FFXIII. And I honestly don't see how people say Vanille is annoying and hate her. Real talk? She's actually my absolute favorite character in that game. And I do not find her voice annoying. I actually think it fits the whole "childish" theme they were going for, because it's all an act to seem childish. I love it. Anyone else?
Thank you for defending Final Fantasy XIII. No, really, that's a great speech. Minus the swears.
I would have to say my number one mehanic that pissed me off is the turn based system in FFX, only because i think it made it too easy defeat most of the bosses, as you know exactly when they are going to attack and its easy to learn when the over powered attacks are coming, just imagine if Barthandelus was in X All of us could have most probably beat him first time around.
Now, I dont mind the cutscenes i always revisit games and play them from the start after like a year or two, and still playing X on PS2, the custscenes still leave me in awe because of the graphics for its time is amazing
I would say your next video should be a easter eggs of FF because i have played nearly all of the series except 1, 2 ,3 ,6 and the onlines only because i have only just recently purchased online hahahaha and havent got around to purchasing them :) love all your videos man hope you keep them up
Hey DK, did you ever do a top ten favorite mechanics list? Perhaps something positive like that might help you a bit.
My condolences for you loss. I won't pressure you to make more videos. Do them when you're ready, not before.
#1 is the level up system in FF2 for sure. It's an interesting concept but it wasn't fine tuned at all and feels either impossible to level certain things up (mp) or incredibly easy and cheap when you grind a specific way for a particular stat (swap / attacking yourself).
Using the sap or osmose spells will increase your mp
Just sap your party early game and osmose yourself as well once you get the osmose tome
I've only played FF's: 7, 8, X, X-2, 12, and 13. I've researched and seen the mechanics of the other games too, but the most irritating 1 came from the draw system in 8. It made no sense to me why they took away MP and their traditional level up system in exchange for this system. Why draw all that magic if we are punished for using it?
The job system in Final Fantasy III, and the stat system in FF II.
***** Combine that with the dungeons in FF III where you have to be Mini or Frog like Neko's Shrine. (That's just unfair to throw that kind of a situation so early in the game.)
+The Quarter Guy Tbh, It's really just a precursor to the job system in ffV, which is the best mechanic in a ff game ever, apart from ffX's battle system imo.
+The Quarter Guy Seriously, what is so hard about gaining stats through your choices in battle?
+Carbon61 It's time consuming to just stand there and get hit to increase your HP and speed, or have to attack a bunch of times to level up your weapon. Granted, this is pretty realistic, or about as realistic as you can get when you bring in the concept of magic, because you have to exercise your abilities to increase them, but as shown by Super Hydlide, realistic takes on games may not be the best option...
0_o I found it to increase at a steady rate. Much better than fighting random monsters for 3 hours.
I was hoping the Celestial weapon quests from FFX would be on this list. Those annoyed the hell out of me.
+KarlTheJester The chocobo race was not that bad... *Screams internally*.
+Cho Tengen Toppa Nep Nep it honestly wasn't...
the fucking lighting dodging tho..... (shudders)
***** One of the designers for Final Fantasy X might be part sadist.
Cho Tengen Toppa Nep Nep true, cause you actually NEEDED celestial weapons to fight penance in the INT version. So if you plan on a melee character, that's step 1.
not sure if magic is nerfed against penance tho, all the stuff I've seen is quick hit and attack reels. i'd love to see someone fight him w/o those and of course, zanmato
Well... He did specifically say in the intro that these were game mechanics, not things like the story, characters, enemies/bosses, sidequests, etc. Pretty sure the ultimate weapons of X are considered side quests.
FFXIII used that game over condition for a reason. I haven’t played it in a while but iirc it’s due to the necessity of having enemies with dangerous single target attacks, without which, the sentinel class would be useless. If all three characters needed to die to get a game over you could just revive whoever gets hit too hard instead of being forced into using a tank paradigm.
Problem with that is, the Sacrifice mobs and Orphan can cast instant death which has a chance of giving you an immediate Game Over if it's used on your party leader. That is extremely cheap. It's a damn good thing that a Game Over doesn't necessarily send you all the way back to the save point in FF13, because if it did, it would piss off SO MANY PEOPLE it's not even funny.
And from my experience, there's no way to prevent instant death in the instant it does connect on your party leader. Even Sentinels are useless in dealing with it, and the accessory that helps guard against it doesn't eliminate that chance completely even if you have 2-3 of them that are fully upgraded.
FF12, by comparison, only had one way to get an instant Game Over: letting the Demon Wall reach the door while you're trying to kill it. That made way more sense than a mob going "oh, I just instakilled your party leader, git gud scrub" while you stare at a Game Over screen in rage and disgust. In fact it's actually hard AF to get a Game Over in FF12 unless you're just a total noob who doesn't know what the hell he's doing. Even the superbosses can't do that very easily (well, except the 5 Judges in the Trial Mode)...
@@cameraredeye3115 Yeah I agree it's cheap and dumb. I might have sounded like I was defending it; but I hated everything about FFXIII's battle system even though imo changing classes in battle is potentially a really cool idea in concept.
FFXII is indeed a perfect example of the exact opposite, which is a problem also I think - but at least it was fun.
hey DK most of these i agree with but i think one that should've been included was the way you level up in Crisis Core! it was too freaking random! i did not like the way you level up in crisis core
JOC217 i completly forgot about that.
Darkkefka ahhh i thought so its cool for your countdown id probably put it as number 4. but thats just me. where would you put it if you had included it??
Darkkefka I don't think the level up in Crisis Core is a terrible mechanic. Sure it's random, but again it's all based on the random luck chance from the DMV. Heck it's sometimes hilarious if you can get 2 level ups during one battle. Plus if your having trouble "leveling up" there's always the tons of missions you can mess around in and just get tons of point to help raise the chance for the DMV to happen. you also have Aeirth's little invincible thing to help make most fights easy to handle.
***** Actually the LVUP in Crisis Core isn't random there is actually EXP in this game and every ennemi give you some EXP, the thing is it's competely invisible you can't see how many EXP you have and the system is you gain EXP that raise you're chances of LVUP and eventually at a certain point you're 100% sure that you will LVUP so it's not completely random it's just completely hide for obscure reason but if you go check the bestiary on gamefaqs you will see the exact amount of EXP each monster can provide.
Also since we start to talk of that let's talk about invisible stat such as the chance for random enconter from FFVI to X they're actually completly random there is an invisible count down that go down each step you make and wher it goes to 0 you get a fight, another invisible stat is Penance the thing is Penance in his second form has actually an invisible Overdrive Gauge this bars fills every he take damage and every time he attacks (the Arms doesn't count for both of the case) and I think when he has been attack or has attack 19 times (I'm not sure) he becomes able to use Judgement Day (if the arms are still here) this is how you deal with Judgement Day on Penance Extreme challenge.
Darkkefka I would also add both the Money System, the Drop Rate and because of that the Equipment LVUP system of Final Fantasy XIII this is absolutly incredible how hard it is to get Gils on XIII (and the fact that you don't win Gils in Battle doesn't help at all) and not only that but the things you have to buy to raise your equipment is so fucking expensive that you can never buy them (especially the thing that cost 2 Millions Gils that is required for getting the Ultimate Weapons) and then you have to drop them assumming you can this is fucking crazy I have beat like 50-100 times Long Gui and I have obtain only 2 or 3 times the Rare Item (sorry I'm French so I don't know the English Name) this is bullshit I like XIII but this, Vanille and the Leader die = Game Over system are the only things that piss me off in this game.
Guilaume CORDOBA-MILLAN Really Now?? For a funny thought I always like to believe that there was sorta an EXP for Crisis Core. So again I really don't think Crisis Core has a Worst Mechanic for leveling up. (if anything thats and on and off debate for FF2 IMO, will get to that game eventually and will have a better opinion on that)
For the money system in FF13, yeah..... i won't lie on that. I love FF13. but it's kinda painful between trying to get enough money to upgrade most of your weapons to trying to not die from an enemy or a Boss fight with the Mechanic of "If my leader dies, we're doom durr"
We love you DK!! Stay strong!
The worst part of FFX is switching party members in and out...no only do you have to do this because you need certain characters for certain monsters, but if you a character doesn't participate in a fight in someway, they don't get any XP, so if you're grinding, you need to switch every member in and have them do something (I remember using a lot of pointless potions) just so you can get some XP for them.
"I know how good this chick really is and I am also a pervert" Honestly like that is appreciated, the way it was delivered was hilarious
Fun video! Agreed on most points. I'd also like to bring up the tedious leveling system from FF2. Neat on paper, a chore in execution. It got better in some of the remakes, where stat level ups became quicker and more predictable, but the very original is just a nightmare.
I haven't run into this one in a while, but spells that would be useful if enemies worth casting them on weren't immune. "Useful useless spells" were magic or items intended to cause useful debuffs on enemies, however the programers made many of the monster types you would want to use the spells on immune to just about all of them. Then the ones that lacked any immunity could just as easily be foiled much faster with average attacks, so their would be no point in wasting time or mana.
I think you and I are one of 7 people who actually platinumed 13-2. The game was great.
felman87 yay i am also one of the seven!
Tbh the game not that difficult to platnium.
felman87 I, too, am one of the seven! Honestly, i thought it wasn't exactly hard. Cie'th Rex took a couple of tries, sure, but he wasn't that hard. Just needed to figure out when to switch into which role, which was a breeze after a try or two. The most annoying trophy, by far, is earning 10.000 coins in the casino and getting the Lucky Coin Fragment. I love XIII-2 as much as i love XIII and Lightning Returns, but it i was asked to play them over again (i played the first two games two tames, and LR a total of four times times now), i would not Platinum a single one, simple because of how annoying some trophies are. Getting to max level and finding all the items/equipments in XIII was a pain... and so was the LR secret boss. But still, i love every single game in this trilogy. Each one has its own kind of feeling and atmosphere to it and they did a great job on these games, despite all the hate these games are getting they will always be some of my favorites.
I need 1 more trophy for FF13 to get platinum. FF13-2 i platinumed like nothing! I havent really played LR because of school but i should be able to now! I cant wait! I NEED PLATINUM FOR FFX13 THOUGH!! :'(
felman87 I am one of the chosen 7 too xD
Final Fantasy X is your favorite game of all-time? Wow, I thought I was the only one! That's awesome to see! My favorites list is:
1. Final Fantasy 10
2. Earthbound
3. Final Fantasy 7
4. Final Fantasy 8
5. Final Fantasy 9
where is that at 0:39? did everything but mognet and don't think I've seen that. Also in ffx-2 you have to watch Tidus's overdrives when he's your guest which he can spam.
11:45 subbed just because of that line
Im laughing so hard at the people who have been doing the subtitiles
Brian Jones Me too. The annotations interpreted "Phoenix Down" as "Penis Down"
Brian Breón Oh god. "The main issue I have with random encounters" was turned into "The main issue I have with Ben McAdams".
Timothy Munoz hahahahahaha
+Timothy Munoz "Whack at taxes have met HSPA, like every other game does."
I once did an ff9 run where every trance activated at the end of a battle! That was really fucking annoying!
The encounter rate in VI made me rage so hard.
"Im also a pervert" i love how real you are with everyone xD
13 has a worse issue than just the leader dying causes you to lose. Coupled with that problem is the AI is programmed to heal the character with the lowest HP, and if that's not your leader and you get hit with a big attack the AI will decide to ignore your leader so you can watch as they die. Not a big issue late game, but during most of it, it is a huge issue....also the Life spell is worthless for an AI healer....can't use it on your leader, and of course it's a useless spell for the healer themselves if they die. Only good for 1 damn character....ugh I could go on....
You know what other things the AI healer will not do? Not rez the fallen party member unless your leader is at about 80%-90% HP. I got stuck in a loop where I was Sentinel role, mediguarding, at 60% health and Light instead of rezing she kept on healing. Back to 60% when taking dmg and so on.
Hmm what else. Oh yeah have the AI synergist use Faith on Fang. Or bravery to himself (Hope) basicly use useless abilities and waste time. Sometimes leave vital buffs for last, Protect for example. So basicaly you had no control over the other party members.
Limited leveling up. Up the end of each chapter you where able to develop further. But at the same time you where at max on all 3 roles. You finaly got to Pulse and by that time you thought ok I might max out. No you need to fight the boss at the end of the chapter to get the cool abilities. Oh you finished the game? You passed the "tutorial", now you can max your character. We have an upgrade system but you don't actualy need to use it untill after chapter 11.
Story is a subjective matter so I cannot say anything. If you liked it cool. If not, cool again. But they have done many wrong things with the world building and character development (especialy with villains - antagonists). Datalog should be there to keep notes for you for things you learned in the game. Not give you all the backstory for characters and landscapes you visited without any contex ingame. One example. The white hair dude. First time you see him in a cutscene ariving and giving orders. And then datalog updated. Here is his name, his origin etc. Do they expect me to care for him?
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FFXIII is a pretty (visualy), mediocre game (not only in comparisson with FF games but with RPGs-JRPGS in general)
"And I'm also a pervert so this is who I'm gonna fucking use" 😂😂😂
Brutal/blunt honesty...
i was dying XD
Ashley Robinson I was practically crying and rolling in laughter this during his whole commentary.
Though because of lack of exposure to spoken (and accented) English, I can't understand quite a bit of what he said. But that's fine, because it's kinda funny to hear him angry and ranting. XD
I'm just being honest..
+ 1 my nigga
Chrono Trigger did "random encounters" right, in the 90s.
You see a monster, either you avoid it or engage it.
In Chrono Cross you could even escape from some bosses in order to prepare.
+Archaos Sephiroth and walk right past dungeons blocking an area without entering if completed. didn't make up for being lost but still.
+Archaos Sephiroth Yeah, but the problem with that was there were many fixed encounters where you had to fight.
Uh... Yeah. Those are not random encounters, though, they're already preset.
This list was so spot on it's ridiculous, and id have to say that my only gripe with ff8 was the fact that the junction system was "required" for you to buff your party and build stats, yet they made some of the GF'S MISS-ABLE and LIMITED until practically the end of the game. But to be fair it's not like you needed all of them anyway lol
Dude, I finally felt the pain of #1. Playing through FFX on my PS2, got to Yunalesca, somehow mismanaged my zombied characters, and got murked by megadeath. That was about 10 minutes worth of cutscenes I had to sit through again because of that screw-up.
LOSING that battle is a perfect of why non-skipcut scenes is very bad..
Darkkefka there are 3 cut-sceans in ffx that made me understand your point
1-yunalaska boss ( i don't need to see the 10 min cut-scean every time i die)
2- yuna and tidus kiss ( my family ALWAYS get the wrong idea every time they see....this type of cut-scean)
3-when aorun join the party after the blitzball game (when tidus and yuna LOL so hard they almost made me believe that tidus was infected by sin poison XD)
BTW my favourite ff is 8 but it has ups and downs like every FF ( 13 included )
+Darkkefka also on ps2 anyway, so is the kingdom hearts 1, Riku-Ansem fight in hollow bastion. (The one that if you win you turn into a heartless)
Acually now they made 3 ports with the steam version on PC and guess what YOU STILL CAN'T SKIT THE CUTSCENES, what the fuck Square.
This is the sole reason why it took me months to beat Yunalesca because eventually i got bored of it and didn''t feel like watching the same cutscene for the tenth time, even if it is a really nice cutscene.
What's funny is that there is a mod for the Steam version called "Untitled" Project X and one of the things they have planned for it is skippable cutscenes, you see Square? We want this!!
I agree. The longest cut scenes in that game always come before the hardest bosses (shout out also to Seymour Flux and Braska's Final Aeon). It really is a double wammy and they should fix that the next time they port the game.
DK I'm sorry for your loss.
These top 10's never get old, I love them. Man random encounters are irritating, just trying to get from point A to B and encounter, even when you literally just got out of one and two seconds later in mid run, bam another one. I also agree about Final Fantasy X (or any game really) not letting you skip cutscenes. If your stuck on a boss it's a bitch to have to watch a long ass cutscene over and over (Ugh I remember back in the day when I had to go through that with Lady Yunalesca and Braska's Final Aeon. Along with possessed Riku in Kingdom Hearts gah! I wanted to shoot myself cause I just wanted to get back in there and fight) It's nice someone in the comments gave an explanation for why they didn't let you skip the cutscenes in FFX but it's still a pain. I don't play video games as much as I used to (usually just watch game walkthroughs) so I didn't play FF 13 myself (and I can imagine that leader is dead=instant game over being annoying as hell) but I agree that game gets too much hate. I don't get it, now the unnecessary sequels I kind of agree there (didn't care for them much and thought the stories were weak and unneeded) but the first game is really good. When it comes to FF 7 and beyond, my least favorite FF is 12. The game just bored me to death compared to other FF's. My favorite is FF X.
Dude, I love your videos, your gamestyle, your comments on the game.
It's really enterneining.
"and I'm also a pervert" lol
Dk play final fantasy 2 and I promise this list will change
zion rios smith the first is even worse kkk one step 6 monsters
I've only gotten about halfway through Final Fantasy. I think I stopped somewhere around the time you could upgrade the jobs you chose. I remember getting the Earth and Water Crystal.
Gonçalo Miguel the grind in FF ii is worst...
2 is at least hilariously exploitable. I think 2's biggest flaw is that it's just kind of boring.
The dumbest thing about the party-leader thing is that they got it right in 12.
13 gets hate because it deserves it. Your love of the females is to a point that it ridiculously clouds your perspective. 13 and its sequels have caused an exodus of original fans the likes of which I've never seen in another game franchise. It's objectively shit compared to ther est of the series. Get over it. We know Vanille is your waifu, but 13 blows, brosef!
what? lol...for me one of the downfalls is X and X-2.
XIII never will be one of my favorites, but it wasn't as bad as many want it to be. If you accepted the fact it tried something different and acted accordingly (and yes i also hate the linearity...so i do in FFX) i can see where the hates come from, but many arguments supporting the hate can also be applied to FFX (except the battlesystem)
XIII-2 blew me away back then, i really couldn't believe that after XIII its sequel could be so much better, that whole pokemonaspect and battlesystem was really great...the story was just confused horseshit for the sake of being confused horseshit...but i freaking loved the gameplay.
Lightning returns, was intriguing at the beginning...but fell flat pretty fast for me and is still to this day the only FF i have never finished.
You should just accept the fact, opinions can differ and objectively it wasn't a bad game, it was just not a real FF, like it used to be...and again, the same counts for FFX imo, because it was the first game, with major changes to a for decades loved formula...and Tidus sucks ass hahaha.
have to agree with you on the cutscenes, why not skippable? you know, if i play through the game 10 times, why do i be forced to watch the cutscenes OVER AND OVER AND OVER?
+Belias So you can listen to Tidus and Yuna laugh every time! Would be so troll of them to add some update to the FFX remake to make cutscenes skippable, except for that one.
+Belias
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Great list. I would personally just switch some placements around, but all the thngs on it I wholeheartly agree with.
Random battles is a dated concept, but a concept that can work with just adding a on/off option or a rate slider.
Some RPGs have done this and it works great.
Also love how everyones main complaint about 13 is that it's linear with no sidetracking. Would be a legit complaint if the same people didn't have 10 as one of their favourite game, but no mention there.
Draw system was crap but FF8 had a great story I love
I love how the subtitles don't know what you're saying, haha
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That's also a problem in the Persona games. If Minato/Yu/Akira/whoever your protag is dies, it's a Game Over (because apparently you can't just revive him with your other party members for some stupid reason).
I thought for sure Draw was going to be closer to the #1 spot. FF8 is my second fave game of all time (it was 1 till FF10 came out) and even I hated that crap. :(
You really don't have to Draw Magic if you invest a couple of hours into Triple Triad (and I'm not talking about hours of card playing, either. In about two hours, you can get the cards to refine some of the best Magic in the game early on). When I play Final Fantasy VIII, I have Zell and Squall at nearly 4k HP and 70ish-80ish Strength on Disc One cause I'm able to get 100 Tornado, Quake, Curaga, Death, Zombie, etc.
Once I obtained lionheart. that was my #1 use, I leave squall critical, or phoenix down him at critical and lionheart everyone, including bosses. most everything else. didnt work worth anything.. only when I accidently healed him, rested, or the game automatically healed everyone due to some special scene. made me mad!
I do like this list. You covered your points rather well.
Not sure....I never needed him before...
Darkkefka What? Needed who?
You have a new subscriber here. You're honest, you love FFX and you mentioned Queen and Quistis, which most people never do since everyone is just obsessed with Tifa.
There are only two mechanics in the FF series that I really hate.
The first is the Job system in FF3. I don't mind the multiple jobs themselves (that is actually kind of cool), but I hate that after you switch your stats get lowered for a while. And since this game basically relies on you using the job system effectively it means that you have to grind when you get a new job or you want to use a job for an upcoming boss. And yes, I know that FF3 isn't the only game with this kind of problem, but it really made me hate the game after a while.
The second thing I hate is the unskippable summons in several of the FF series. Look, I get it Square, you are good and making pretty animations, but I have watched this way too many times can I please get a way to skip these animations? The worst is probably FF8 since its summons take so long and you can't even just watch them, you have to press buttons to get the max power. It is annoying, it is tedious, and it wastes too much damn time.
Charlie McFarlin That's why I quit playing that game. There are no phoenix downs available in shops either. I can't defeat Guruda.
Bryan Blackner OMG THXX YOU.. like that shit is incredibly annoying.. like who thought it was a good idea to practically have no pheonix downs in shops.. finding them in chests doesn't even help because they're stupidly rare
GaZaRaVe If you like FF3, well good for you. For me it is the worst Final Fantasy game I have ever played.
***** Nope never played that game.
***** So it is only an issue with the DS remake then... interesting.
Bullshit on that FF XIII rant, that shit is reversed. It's not people who hate XIII that try to convince other people to hate it, it's people that like XIII that try to convince other people to like it. The consensus is that the game was poorly made, that's why people don't need to convince others to hate the game. Why should we when that's the popular opinion? But that's exactly the reason you'll see people trying to convert others into liking the game. When a person likes something that is overwhelmingly maligned and chastised they need to hear what they like praised by others because people have a natural need to have their opinions validated.
"The game is not that bad," that's someone trying to convince other people of that, but I can talk all day about things *_I_* didn't like and make it perfectly clear that I hated the world's longest hallway tour simulator.
ReiAyanami8 i literally have people posting comments in my vids telling me to stop playing it and stay using vanille.
Darkkefka I don't know how people act in your comment section. I'm going by what I see and read in every other part of the internet.
ReiAyanami8 I see your point, but trust me, it was really getting annoying. Anytime I talked about FF13 or Vanille, I got hate comments from people..telling me the game sucks, and I shouldn't include it in my videos, and that I shouldn't use Vanille, ect, ect.
Darkkefka I'm not doubting you for a second. I have no doubt that some people can't just express their opinion and be done with it. And I wasn't trying to say that everyone who dislikes the game are shining examples of restraint.
ReiAyanami8 I know, I was justifying myself. In fact, look at my top 10 summons vid and search for a comment posted by Jonathan Garrad and you'll see what I'm talking about. He posted 2 of them. One of them is about the game. This is just 1 of MANY of these....
This is my first time watching one of your videos.
I like your style!
While I love Lightning Returns, the stupid clock system is what stops the game from being on my list of favorite games. It just causes too much stress for me. In my first run through, I completed all the content available to me by the end of Day 3 by abusing Chronostasis. I just can't relax when that clock is running.
me too,its like theres this fun game you can play, but only for a limited time unless you do this other, non fun thing.
Harry Potter even though I finshed every quest i found i still feel uncomfortable every time the turns on O___O
Fantastic list. I totally agree with #1 not only for ff10 but for any game with unskippable cutscenes. If I were to add anything to this list, it would be items that are obscenely hard to obtain due to obscure/unknown methods, like the zodiac spear from ff10 for example
I still don't understand why unskippable cutscenes is still being used. It makes sense when some scenes requires player inputs, like choosing options, but during the animated ones with no such requirements, should they be skipped at least?!
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'IT'S STILL TIDUS AF'
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dude, the final fantasy 8 draw system was to add another tactical layer to the game. determining which strong spells to junction and which to save for combat. FF8 was just as amazing as the rest. you just a hater
Just to show one of the best attack spells in the game: who the fuck is going to cast Ultima, when a basic attack will do more damage faster and without a cost, if I junction Ultima to it?
Even then, why the fuck would I regularly use Ultima, knowing I have to draw it in order to keep the stock up?
Also, not every area will provide access to draw to Ultima.
I know Ultima is "Teh Pwn", but these observations apply throught the game to the best spells avaliable for junction [like elemental-dagas] at given times [usually when they become avaliable]: they either excel at junction and it is not wise to cast them, or they are no longer the best junction option - and by that time physical attack surpasses them.
It is not fun, the need to hoard the best spells all the time in order to be optimal and to avoid the boredom of draw.
I saw the title, and my first thought was the Trance system in IX. It was always so frustrating to have your character get hit and go into Trance only for the battle to end immediately afterwards. I'm so glad they fixed that with X.
I didn't like the way espers in FF XII could spam their ultimate ability in your fight against them. (Looking at you Zodiark)
Frank SomethingOrOther Also how to get them to use said move when you summon them.
All you had to do was get dark mask to absorb the dark magic an be lucky for the 80% insta kill but them was not hard
I never said it was hard. I said I didn't like it, that it was a dumb game mechanic. I had no trouble, but it was annoying to see it every 10 seconds. Demon Shields absorb Dark, making Zodiark a wimp.
That it is, but I find getting the situations that make the summons in FFXII more of a hassle than fans of FFXII make it out to be, as you gotten Zodiark you know how to get him to use his summon attack, which is to have the summoner have the stone condition at the last ten seconds of his time.
Frank SomethingOrOther yea demon shield did absorb dark magic but darkja still had a 80% chance to insta kill you
Yep Draw Sucks :p.
But FF8 is still my favorite Final Fantasy game :).
Anyway, good top 10. I'll +1 u!
Your comment about only watching cutscenes with Rikku.... You, sir, are a man that I can agree with.
I hate when people bitch about final fantasy 8's draw feature. Other than drawing GF'S from bosses or really strong magic in the latter part of the game, YOU DONT NEED IT! There are more than a few ways to obtain spells in this game to max out stats.
+Aharon K you max out stats by triple triad and drawing, really early in the game. if you don't, you suck at FF8, sorry.
but man, FUCK FF8, bad story dude.... (although i like the characters and gameplay)
Belias I guess that's just personal preference. I loved the story, the music, the experience.
i'm a big fan of FF8, too. i just dont like the story, thats all. i'm more a fan of the overall experience aswell. but still: if you don't max out stats by drawing and triple triad, you pretty much are ''not good at FF8'' in my opinion. dont take offense about that, everyone can see this differently.
+Aharon K But like how it's said in the video, you don't really know that the first time your playing the game, unless you've followed a guide or something. When you play it the first time, you see that drawing magic is what the game wants you to do and that it is the most straight forward and easiest way to get magic.
arkane9b Yeah that's true. And sometimes it was tedious because Quistis would draw like 3 blizzards at a time -_-.
I'm with you brother but you need to work on your enunciation and pitch. Certain parts were hard to understand. I mean that with the utmost respect. No shots.
+Ahmed Turner which parts was is hard to understand me? I get this a lot...and I really don't see it.
+Darkkefka Don't worry about it, it's simply area difference, I went to new jersey recently and It was hard to make out the English they were saying, and vice versa.
+Darkkefka an example of this would be pronouncing "revive" "ruhviv". There are numerous examples but I don't have the time to nitpick right now.
+Ahmed Turner I see. However..here's the difference between you and the people that I have blocked.....
you very well know that I was saying the word " revive"..and you criticized it in a respectful way. I know that I don't always speak clearly, but it shouldn't be hard to understand the words I am saying. Many people tend to be assholes and post unneccessary insults on my talking
+Darkkefka I'd never disrespect you. You've done nothing wrong to me. At the end of the day I want you to be great. You seem passionate about making these videos and you have a decent following. Take some time to perfect your craft is all I'm saying. Them people who just say stupid stuff... Fuck em, they're just being mean.
THANK YOU for mentioning the cutscenes! After the first playthroughs I go do something else when they come on.
But my biggest peeve was XII's quest for the rare items. I couldn't tell you the number of times I got one, only for it to be weaker than what I already had equipped.
Number one should have been FFII's leveling mechanic.
i actually like it
Kelvin Kegel
So you like grinding a stat out only for it to randomly decrease while working on another?
Is not that bad, you just have the assigned healer, the attacker, and the mage, and everything will be a breeze. An example, i just use Guy to fight without weapons, with that he get large hp boost, the strongest attacker, and have the strongest defense, Firion cast magic, and attack with a sword and any other weapon. Maria can cast all kind of magic, and attack once in a while. Just with that the game become easier.
Yeah, till you have HP go down because your agility went up because an enemy missed. If I ever play again I'm just going to have everyone naked and abuse a roughly 98% miss chance. And save for a few swords at the end unarmed will consistently do more damage then any weapon you find.
***** Thats right. =) unarmed give you a lot of advantages.
FF7 remake better have random enconters
This is the first video I've seen of yours - had it Recommended on my YT channel - and so I'm not sure if you've played Final Fantasy II? I was kind of expecting the "Monster Closets' to be on this list. This was a feature in FF2 where you just walk into an empty room that has nothing in it except a super-increased encounter rate. To add insult to injury,they teleport you right into the middle of the room so you're guaranteed to fight on your way out.
But other than that, great list and I agree 100% about your feelings on XIII and XIII-2.
+Nikkolas Mical I have not. I've said that in many of my vids, so most of my followers know this. I do plan to play them however, and I will update my list when I do play the ones I missed.
I gotta disagree with the FFVIII system-hate. People tend that tend to hate on it tend to not be good with it. Drawing, while time-consuming, is a great system. Especially with the junction system. It was actually great.
Ugh... It's unfortunate that you want FFVII changed up more than it should be... If it was like Chrono Cross, I could see the enemies being on-screen... But Square Enix is going to ruin FFVII-remake.
No, FF13 sucks. Just, no. It is bad.
Also... You're trying to FORCE YOUR BELIEFS of not forcing beliefs on others to other people. You straight up just told people what to say/think. Devil's advocate here. You are guilty of the very same thing you're condemning others for. And FFXIII is bad.
what? The junction system broke FFVIII's difficulty and need for fighting...mby the intention was a good one, but the outcome was an unbalanced mess, where you can beat the whole game with lvl5 and get overpowered without even entering the dungeon to fight Ifrit...
the complete game was broken with this system.
Don't get me wrong, i love FFVIII but the game is a broken mess.
1) Drawing magic makes magic almost completely useless in the game, especially since you can overlevel very fast AND abuse Limit Breaks anyway. The only spells you need to use in FF8 are the ones DK described...
2) I've seen the FF7 Remake and it's actually not bad. It reminds me of the Active Dimension Battle system from FF12 (which is my favorite). Also, fuck random encounters. They're annoying as shit.
3) Your playing devil's advocate with the whole FF13 mess just proved DK's point. Congratulations.
final fantasy 13 doesn't allow any freedom of movement(only one path through most of the game, with no side branches), there are no decent side quests until near the end, you cannot grind levels when you want to until the end of the game, the battle system is basically hitting auto battle all the time and hoping your characters do the right thing (because choosing the commands you need takes too long due to an extremely poorly sorted command list) when your main character dies it is game over despite the fact that there would be other pcs who can revive you if that wasn't the case, you cannot control the other characters and the limit of the games strategy is switching classes(which would be a good mechanic if it were not the only one you could use on the fly and if it allowed you to switch the classes of individual members instead of only using presets), the majority of the time your character is just healing the other characters because the healing AI sucks.
The boss battles are boring extended slogs which fail to be interesting due to the battle system limiting your options.
And to top it all of the game feels like an extended tutorial.
At least in the other Final Fantasy games I had enough time to select my command or it just straight up paused time, there were side quests, other regions of the map you could explore, the actual ability to grind(ff13s encounters do not even re-spawn) and I didn't want to hit myself with a shovel for how long the bosses took when they were completely uninteresting.
Yeah, 13 had it's problems, but I was able to deal with it.
Question if you don't mind. Where you able to find my Top ten video I made back in Dec on the status effects??
Darkkefka I think 13 has too many problems to be legitimately enjoyable.
I didn't look for that status effect vid.
just going to say about the grinding part. i found several stops dung the game were it was possible to grind both exp and money ( hopes house for example be just running around the back of the house and they re=spawn) btw i hate 13 but i just thought i would say that.
Doombybbr hit it on the head for me. The game took some of Final Fantasy's most notable factors out and replaced it with some of the most uninteresting, and ideally frustrating games I've ever played. The game had too many flaws for me to enjoy it. I felt too limited and irritated with combat. You're welcome to enjoy FF13, for what it is. But in honesty, it is perhaps the worst installment around.
Most of the people who founded FF and had a vision of what they wanted it to be all jumped ship from square (even their composer left) and that explains the decline in quality from 10 onward. Some people may not agree with decline, okay that's fine. But it's hard to disagree that the series hasn't at least morphed into something completely different since then. Nomura boasts himself up all the time as having played key roles since he's the director now and feels he's up to it but most of the time he was a character designer (just one of them) and helped write certain plot points (under supervision and revision from peers with other writers) and so he believes he shares the same vision as the people who had it originally. Or maybe he wants it to be something different on purpose, I don't know.
My overall reaching point though is that 13 is just a symptom of the change in direction of the company. They're not squaresoft anymore with watanabe, they're square enix with nomura.
It's gotten to the point where I've become so jaded I'm not really even willing to give 15 a chance. It's really only a ff game in name. I also have extreme doubt that the FF7 remake is going to be faithful at all. Mostly because it's just going to be nomura circle jerking his own version of it and saying "I was on the team bro". The character designs from the trailer were where I expressed my first doubts and seeing the battle system and then the episodic release was what kind of sealed it for me. They'll likely change the script and plot to fit more the new games and rewrite the character personalities to be more in line as well. I'll at least give it a chance, but if it turns the battle system into kingdom hearts-7 and rewrites the plot I'm out for good. Because if a FF7 remake won't do it for me then nothing they make onward will either.
But that's just a long digression from someone who's seen one of their favorite genres and franchises transform over time into something completely unrecognizable.
I don't really think it's reasonable to lash out at people who said 13 was garbage. It was an inevitability. If you took any other series, lets just say street fighter because of how well known it is, and started turning it from a 2d fighter "because 2d fighters are dead" and turned it into any other genre like a 3d fighter, or drastically altered it's formula as was the case with final fantasy, then you are going to piss a lot of people off regardless of if the game was good by itself or not. and 13 by itself was not so the problem was twofold and thus more hate.
My final point being that they put Final Fantasy on it when they were clearly just capitalizing on the name because their intentions were to basically reboot the series which pissed off a lot of people. Which might sound weird since the plots aren't related but the mechanical elements from 1-10 were similar with unique quirks IE leveling to 99 while managing materia, jobs, spheres, ect. After that, the only thing the series seems to have retained is it's emphasis on grandiose storytelling and that's it. They basically want them to be action games with a high focus on cinematics more akin to western style games.
DK, if you replay LR, are you going to LP it again as a Guide version?
FF 13 is my favourite :D
You can skip cut scenes in 10 but if I recall you may only be able by option or replaying ng+?
Omg Finally someone who defends FF13! I don't know why the fuck they just hate it WTF! XD I TOTALLY agree with you about FF13 (Except Serah XD but that's other thing though)
You gain a like and a new subscriber. I really enjoy your vids :)
Yeah, I got tired o all the FF13 hate.
I don't even know why so many people hate that game. The characters were a MAJOR step up from FFX, and they weren't nearly as cliche as people made them out to be. I mean, what a concept, they actually AREN'T instantly best friends the minute they join up with one another. But best of all, they weren't annoying.
ffxiii the whole series was good to me, especially the antagonists besides bhenivelze (hated him) but the characters in ffxiii series had more personality and they were just likable to me I've played all but 1-3 and 14 of the games and 13(-2, lightning returns) are my favorites plus the characters from that series are my favorites, sazh caius lightning snow vanille (same reason as a lot of people) cid Raines and a few others. the story line has a lot more to it and has side things happening as well as the main which tie into each other like dajh turning to stone is the first game. the o my thing I don't like about it is the atb and the gauge, then auto battle. lightning returns battle is better. but for others besides the battle they are really good games
The game seems like you're supposed to hate the linearity. It felt like you had no control, somebody making your decisions. Funny, just like the protagonists. I love how this game makes me connect to the characters in such a manner. Pretty ingenious.
+JdiJwa Agreed, the character development is one of the best points of FF XIII IMO. And on the subject of linearity, a certain someone REALLY wants us to complete our Focus...
I think the experience system in FFII is broken and makes the game boring.
true. altho i finished that game 2 times already, and both times i had fun. there is a work around the system (hitting yourself), it is grindy, but not much and i say its the same as the other titles, just a different kind of grind, but again, that just be becoz of my playstyle (i try to over level as much as i can)