Guys listen. YES!! I KNOW!!! Vincent's Death Penalty has a OHKO glitch. Anybody who's ever played this game knows that glitch. I specifically stated in the video, " it takes a long time to power this thing up." By the time you power that weapon up to that point, I could have Killed Emerald Weapon over 50 times. And it doesn't even work on Ruby weapon. Why is this so hard for you to understand??
Darkkefka hey, I'm replaying FF10 HD. I'm on the calm fields or whatever the fuck they're called. Where can I get steal for Kimahri? I need those lvl. 3 spheres.
Look at the sphere grid and find steal. I believe you should have Rikku by the time you hit the calm lands, so it should be easy to locate. Now farm with Kimahri until you can get him to the steal sphere and learn it. That's how the game works. You "level up" your characters and learn abilities by running them through the sphere grid
All is all it's a guessing game. Surely you will find characters more useful than others but another challenge is to turn a disadvantage into an advantage. Trying to win with something weaker tops peoples lists.
the reverse is just as bad lol. i couldnt stand that douche irvine in ff8 but the ammo i crafted from toneberrys bypasses armor and does max damage each shot 9999.
Nicholas Randall I like him cause he was different from all the others. Plus he actually becomes quite humanized when you realize he was only showboating and isn't as confident as he seems.
Although my wife will severely disagree, unlike other characters, Vivi basically sticks to one thing which is offense. In my own experience Vivi is only useful in "Challenges" ("Level 1 Challenge", "Excalibur II", etc..)
Fun Fact: In FFIV the After Years, a unused Blue Magic command was found in the game's code. Many fans think it was supposed to be for Harley, because of her statline and equips. Imagine if she really had Blue Magic!
Rubi Era Try change garnet to ekko she has stronger white magic garnet will not cast eidolons consistently and ekko has phoenix has a chance to revive all
Kimahri can be taught to be pretty much any kind of fighter from the start because he has access to pretty much everyone else's sections of the grid, but because he starts going there later than people their own sections, he'll probably lag behind them. The thing is that his base Magic is higher than Lulu's, so he works wonderfully as a mage. I taught him black magic, used Black Magic Spheres to teach him more powerful spells that Lulu had already learned and managed to teach him Doublecast before Lulu or Yuna, so he actually turned out to be a complete game breaker throughout the story. Especially after Bikanel because he could hit hard with his spells and also use Al Bhed Potions to heal. Well, that and the fact that he could be taught Steal and Use early on, as you mentioned. Although once you get the airship and start doing optional stuff, yes, he becomes pretty much useless and his Overdrives do suck. Except Nova, if you get it before you can reach 99,999 with the others' Overdrives.
I always thought it was apparent (at least to myself it was) that he was a jack of all trades, but a master of none type of character. At least until you train him up to be a master of what ever you wanted. He was always in my main team. Kimarhi, Auron, and Tidus where my "A" team. ^_^
I just stuck evade & counter on Auron and had him in permanent cover, he was my main sweeper until omega dungeon. and not sure if it was a glitch, everytime he went to cover an ally he dodged it which triggered his evade & counter, so not only was he hitting hard very quickly from cover counter combo he was also dodging everything and taking no damage
Auron and Lulu are too slow to use I once switched Auron in to use the overdrive with all the status effects on the final boss but he was so slow that I wasn't able to switch him out before being killed
Absorber999 So basically. Vivi would be good in any other final fantasy but because the FF9 group is so busted that Vivi just kinda gets outclassed. Right? (Correct me if I’m wrong)
The saddest thing about Kimahri is that his setup depends on the player’s choice. The only thing that belongs to him specifically is Lancet and its pretty useful in the early stages as you can get a lot of useful overdrives like Stone Breath and Bad Breath. But when Rikku joins the party he pretty much becomes useless. The best way to use him is as a thief to get the sphere grids when he fights Biran and Yenke.
I had a feeling Cait sith would be high up there. I have only discovered one use for Cait sith. his dice limit break actually is useful for speedrunning but that's it. I do indeed plan on speedrunning that game the next time I stream so you will see what I mean
You can actually manipulate his second Limit, once you get how to do that he is actually OP and can One-Shot everything in the game, so personnaly I think he is more like Kweena and Rikku a very strong character which is very underrated, tough like DK with Kweena I don't use Cait Sith because I don't like him at all.
JOC217 supposedly, there is a set up to allow Cait's slots to always destroy the enemy (it involves auto-reviving after death joker). Also, it got better in FFRK, where its a dancer and bard.
Lol, I did the exact same thing. You’re probably talking about the materia keeper (I think that’s its name), the first boss you fight after the earliest point you can get Vincent in the party. It really is stupid that the game actively discourages you from using your brand new character right away with that boss.
On the topic of most useless characters, how about a "Top 10 Useless Summons"? That should be fun Can already think of one: Carbuncle in FF8 (reflect is such a useless status in that game, there's pretty much no reason to EVER use it)
Mixed feelings about Vivi, after I got Eiko, I stopped using Vivi in general. Steiner can hold his own after you get certain abilities, Eiko can cast offensive and defensive spells and summons. He more or less gets phased out after disk 2
Yeah sadly Vivi is not that useful even when you play level 1 or excalibur II challenge although he's useful when the game force you to use him. I actually try to use him on my level 1 playlist because people don't know how to use him, similar to Kimahri..
What's funny is that if there was no damage cap, Kimahri would be the most consistent person to deal tons of damage (Max Magic Nova overdrive and crit deals near 5 mil.)
Darkkefka Yeah. Kimahri just got the short stick. His Celestial Weapon didn't save him from being always shafted, either. At least he's incredibly helpful early game, especially in NSG, with the second highest HP and having Piercing.
Nobody’s calling him a bad character, but being a great character doesn’t necessarily mean being useful in battle. I do have to disagree with him being the most useless character in 9 as Amarant is undeniably far worse than anyone else.
In The After Years, Edward's actually an awesome party member, beating out even the best of the games' White Mage's as a support. He can Salve items like Dry Ethers to restore the MP of every party member for price of one Dry Ether, and items like Phoenix Down can work the same way. Not to mention Bardsong, which has a chance of casting Shell and Protect on all party members at higher levels, and Hastemarch which casts Haste on all party members, both of which requiring no MP. He's no longer forced to hide when his HP is low, making him very handy for the many hard-hitting superbosses. If everyone else gets KO'd in one attack, Edward can come back, and thanks to his great speed he can Salve Phoenix Downs then some X-Potions for the whole party. Not to mention that his passive Item Lore ability doubles the power of items. He's not broken like he can get in the original game, but he's still easily one the best characters in the game, and I use him gladly over any White Mage. Again, just in The After Years.
Yeah, in After Years he's a complete badass. While the rest of the game callously recycles plot beats from the original game and wastes a ton of your time doing so, for me it was totally worth it to see Edward's growth. His and Kain's arcs in that game were the two things that felt truly new. And that scene where he stood up to Kain's dark half, holy shit. Balls of steel.
Not gonna lie, honestly thought I'd find Penelo from XII on here, literally only ever used her when I was forced to. Honestly had no idea what she was even there for. As for Vivi, just whhyyyy? I'd personally swap Vivi from your list with Amarant, another FF Character I never ever, ever used. :P
Nope your are dead on about it, I was 10 and I try 12 hours just to get that last slot. I'm still getting use to Final fantasy franchise so far I like it also I want to thank you if it wasn't for you I would have never get into the franchise.
Well for my part I used it to kill both weapons on my first play through of the game when I was about 11 and youtube did not exist but I used it from what I remember it makes a reaper appear and it give a scythe hit that instant kills anything except if emerald weapon does not have his hand in the sand. I had to practice my eye a lot and my timing but when i got the timing right and memorized the other of the figures I got it almost any time. It's hard but doable
Well, when I was in Junior High there were a few gamer girls (yep, believe me) that liked him/her/it? because uhhh "cute".... I used to spam (or use a turbo controller or macro on PC) the square button but even with that the computer is being a d*ck that it skips the last picture, I meant "duck" Other than using GS, it ain't easy. I've only got that to appear once in my lifetime and couldn't do it again...
honestly kimahri is not that bad if you train him up properly. like taking him on routes of Auron or wakka on grid can make him cause some pretty damn damage to fiends.
I don't know, man. I thought the same thing the first time I played the game. I thought Lulu was great as well. Over the years, I've realized it is the opposite. Lulu is useful for a portion of the game, but her reliance on offensive magic makes her weaker. Rikku or Yuna can get her key spells with other spheres and then do other great things. You could argue that she could do the same with their spells, but she is much slower than both of them. Now, Kimahri's limit is junky compared to most others in the game. However, he starts very close to Titus on the sphere grid. I don't think many people would contest that Titus is the best in the game, whether you're talking the normal game or going to max out your characters. His speed and strength are essentially equal to Titus. Kimahri can quickly get in Titus' path and get everything he gets, just about 10 levels behind. So, double delay attack can make it so many early bosses never even get a turn, double haste + quick attack later in the game means you get about 20 turns before the enemy gets one. It's nuts. If you're going to max your characters, Kimahri loses it over time since anyone else gets the same benefits and his limit weighs him down. Either way, he's not even close to the worst guy in the game, and even further from the top 10 worst FF characters.
When I think of Useless characters. I take the story into account too. Like Khimahri, but lets be real here. You could remove the Ronso from FFX fully and the story wouldn't charge at all. They play no important role but to make Seymour Flux and that's a unforgivable sin all together. Everything Khimahri does important to the story. He does 10 years ago and we don't see it. That is why I would put Vaan because of how completely USELESS he is to the story. I mean would any of you of care if Ashe was the Main Character in FF12?
in 12 techically everyone is a main because everyonr has their own arc but vaan isnt useless in the story because if u think about it ashe would be dead if it wasnt for vaan
not really since in the begnning it was vaan who save ashe from the nights so those event would have stilled happened the only that would have changed if if vaan and them would have been there but since vaan decided to sneak into the castle the story is only possible thanks to him
Vaan is awesome. He's probably the most well-balanced for all the characters. I know I know, he gets a lot of hate because he's kinda bland, but he is no where near useless. If you wanna go for useless in FF12, it's gotta be Penelo.
I was trying to make a point about Khimahri when it comes to the story. Funny how indoctrinated FF12 fans can only see Vaan. Clearly I was talking about the story. FF12's combat is another form of Cancer we can talk about at a later date
Nothing to do with 'my favorite character'-salty thing whatsoever. Ok, that is 'based on his experience' right?, so that basically means, those are characters that 'he hate". What am i wrong here?? ps* (he also "fuck!" everybody who hate characters that he like. So, he is also salty.. lol..)
WGORAX let me get this straight.. He don't like those characters right? And he knows some people like those characters that he listed and he said "fuck u!!". Isn't that means he HATE those characters? It doesn't matter whether people agree with him or not.. it still 'HE HATE THOSE CHARACTERS'. I never said he's wrong or right.. :-)
To use. "10 FF characters that I hate to use." Also, didn't you hear him saying he liked Selphie as a character a lot and yet he had to put her on the list?
It was entirely based on his experience with the character and the game. Anyone that make Top 10 video always make it with their own personal preference, except some of WatchMojo's Top 10. There are some characters that he likes in the series, but he had to put them on this list because they are useless (to him).
In FF7 8 9, main protagonist is forced to be in party, imagine, squall dont have Lion heart, Cloud dont have Omnislash. Now you stuck with sucky character.
On one hand, I want to object to Selphie being here at all (I'm admittedly a Selphie fanboy)... but after watching the entry for her, I can't really deny it. Zell gets Armageddon Fist, Quistis is the Blue Mage (and this was the era where Blue Magic was insane), Irvine has Fast Ammo, Rinoa you can pretty much rig to have stupid chances of getting Invincible Moon or Wishing Star (and even if you don't there's always Meteor Wing), and Squall's Squall. Selphie? ...Your best bet later on is to que up Eden and Bahamut, then hope you get something during those animations. She's awesome when she strikes gold, but.... yeah, even I'll admit she's too random compared to the other five. Overall, solid list.
Howcome you didn't pick Amarant? His ultimate weapon sucks and is normally the last one for me to obtain outside of EX-2 and even Ragnarok is stronger anyway, and all his abilities are weaker than everyone elses, the only person with a worse trance is Quina but Quinas regular abilities are better than his in trance anyway. It's a shame really as I kinda like him as a character, same with Selphie, I tend to use her and Quistis as they are my fave chars, Rinoa kinda started to tick me off after like my 50th playthrough.
In your party perhaps, but if you max out every single character he ends up bringing the least to the table, and everyone can do consistent 9999 damage except him sadly and a non-trance garnet, he's like a cross between freya and quina with worse abilities and relegated to the front line unless used for support, and as support why would you use him over quina, eiko, garnet or even vivi with a healing doomsday build whom can all outdamage him. It's sad as hes my fave character outside of combat; my least fave being eiko and freya and freya is the best in combat out of everyone, low cost constant 9999s even against mobs with protect from the back row without need of any stones wasted on "Killer" or long reach plus heavy armour and jump as icing, I find it hard not picking her in my lineup unless doing a challenge game.
No they do not depend on "How you use them" that is personal preference; the accepted most efficient method to get through bosses is burning them down as fast as possible thus making highest damage dealers the "Most useful" if you maximise all characters then amarant is the weakest character unless you somehow have an unlimited source of wing edges; which are far more of a pain to farm than anyone elses minigames/mechanics or spend a fortune on a char to do what everyone else can do a limited number of times.
I came back to this list after doing some research into After Years, and I found some things to point out about Harley: 1. No, she does not get any better in late levels. In fact, she's still terrible. Her Max HP never goes above 5,000 and all her stats besides MP only get to low-mid 50's at level 99. 2. She does actually have some other bands she can use that don't require Edward to be in the party, but they require having Rydia, Izayoi, and either Leonora or Rosa in order to actually use the bands, and even then they don't really seem that useful.
dude amarant is more useless than Vivi and Vivi kicks ass. I disagree with you so much on this subject it's not even funny. leaving vivi out of your party also totally nerfs Steiner. I agree with the rest of your list, but I can't fathom choosing vivi over amarant.
Awww Selphie is one of my main characters to go to. Full cure saved me when I was in a pickle and the chances of getting The End may be hard to get but when you do on a boss without freezing the game it's awesome. I've got it before the 3rd form died and then was used on ultimicia and she started talking which means she does already. Also, in FF8 I use all the characters evenly...junctioning everyone with GF and stats and fight ultimicia with any 3 characters she picks first.
We're going to have to agree to disagree on Vivi. He was one of my main party members. But as you said, it depends on HOW you play. I usually have wht mage, blk mage, thief and warrior in any FF game. Steiner and Vivi make an AWESOME team! I do agree with Cait Sith though (the traitor). And Khimari steals abilities. You steal the right ones and he is OP.
"And don't even think for a second that Rikku will be on this list. you just don't know how to use her" ...Well, one could use this same sentence against you. Specially Kimahri! He can be the best character without any grinding at all. He only get behind in the optional content because of the lack of multi-hiting overdrives.
Vivi? Are you joking? Use auto-reflect on all your characters and x2 reflect magic on Vivi. Then make Vivi use a giant nuke on your whole party to do 800% damage compared to what the spell would normally do. Learn how to play before you make a video like this.
Yo DK, I know you love the females of the franchise but it'd be interesting to see your Top 10 favorite male characters in the franchise(or at least in the games you've played)
+Darkkefka Another thing about Spoony, is that his usefulness skyrockets in the 3D remake. He can do more than just use Potions for Salve (though it'll use more than one of that healing item), has many useful bardsongs (including the overpowered Hastemarch, which stacks on top of the Haste spell), and given enough Augments, you actually GET his Bardsong ability as one.
It’s hard to say in ff12 all characters can use the same weapon and abilities and they only have slightly different stats so pretty much they are all the same
"Sees name of video" Oho this is gonna be good, the salt will be strong in the comment sections! Let's see how it compared for me, who knows, may add to the salt pile myself...... #10 Good start, fully agree! Should be a bit higher though, but I never had the versions of the game where he apparently got better so I can't judge. #9 On the hedge with this one, I used Vincent a lot because I noticed that he was the most consistently powerful Mage for the party, so I had him setup as my parties Mage. All things considered though, I can see why others wouldn't use him at all, a very finicky party member (but nowhere, NOWHERE near as useless as Cait Sith, fk that cat! Insta team killing sunnuva-!) #8 Hrm, Vivi was a mainstay for me, I like my mages XD. Amarant/Eiko were the ones I'd say was least used, Steiner brought better utility and combined with Vivi well (I liked their whole synergy gimmick, it was fun ^^), and Garnet was better setup than Eiko. #7 Ain't played, can't judge. #6 Agreed, Kimahri has insane versatility, but he's a poor jack of all trades, master of none, all others can be matched up to cover those roles and do it way better than he can. #5 Agreed, although FF8 characters were all kinda indistinct due to the way the junction system worked, Selphie's limits just weren't realistically good enough, and when limits are really the only thing that tell party members apart, that's bad. #4 Ain't played, can't judge. (well, I did, but only got about 10 hours in) #3 Ain't played, can't judge. #2 As I said earlier, fk Cait Sith, deserves number 1 IMO #1 Ain't played, can't judge.
Finally someone said what I have been saying about Vincent for years. He is worthless. Mostly due to his limit break. Yes cait sith is worthless but he was a joke character to begin with. So little expectation from him. But Vincent was portrayed as a bad ass. And he sucked. I played with cait sith I'd I wanted a challenge in the game.
There is one other factor to take into account when choosing a party in FF7, and that is triple material growth weapons. Cloud and Cid each have one, as well as the best limit breaks, so these two are shoe-ins. For your third party member, the choice is between two candidates with very good (level 3) limit breaks: Barret and Yuffie. They both do about the same damage with their multi-hit limits, but what puts Yuffie over the edge is that her ultimate weapon allows her to morph an enemy with the full power of a regular attack, instead of its default diminished damage. I also don’t use Vivi. I love him as a character, but other characters can also deal great damage for far less MP. And you don’t need to memorize or look up what enemies are weak to which schools of magic. Just smack them. You also don’t need him for Ozma. Just do your gem-trading right and you can smack him at melee range.
I thought quina was the useless one in FF9... random damage, gotta spend time eating tons of monsters to get all the attacks... only a few of the blue magic skills was honestly worth it, but they were also situational....
@@bustymcnutters801 its almost as if, every character in ix fits a niche... which ends up as more of a preference of gameplay style than actual usability...
well on cait sith it is very rare to get death joker it is actually easier to get game over and when I played ffvii he was the only character I maxed out. it is annoying to do the slots yes but they are fun to use. and helpful in some situations. but I do agree with the Vincent placing on this list.
I actually mained Cinque when i played that, she was slow but it really forces you to rely on the killsight system in the game and makes it more fun for me. Plus her 'gaia pulse'? i think its called that is suuuper broken for a lot of enemies. i beat two behemoths with her at the start of the game with only cinque, made a video for it lol. But i can still understand why people dont wanna play a slow character in that kind of game. But for me shes actually pretty useful
Is it bad when I read Umaro's name out loud, my first image is Komaru from Ultra Despair Girls looking like Umaro? Because Toko calls her Omaru, which swaps the first and last letter in Omaru's name.
I feel the same way about Kimahri, I was itching to replace him from the moment he joined. That being said the real travesty of FF10 (the original PS2 US version) is how horrible Lulu actually is. You think she's marginally useful but if you take Yuna over to the Black Magic portion of the grid you suddenly realize that Yuna just completely outclasses Lulu and can do so from pretty early on in the game. I think this was partially fixed in the remaster but my memory is hazy. I just remember I stopped playing for several weeks when I was a kid because I was so annoyed at how much time I wasted on Lulu only to have Yuna trivialize her whole existence.
Yeah, I realized that too when I give Yuna some black magic spells like fire and Blizzard, then I compare the damage of yuna's magic to Lulu's black magic, yuna's Fire/Water/Thunder/Blizzard Damage has the same damage of Lulu's Fira/Watera/Thundara/Blizzara
With ffx though, eventually everyone becomes everything when the sphere grid is maxed out so there is no real useless character except for the damage cap then it's about multi hit overdrives so Lulu and Kimahri fall off.
I've gone many different routes with kimahri, and they tend to end up the same. With kimarhi being mediocre in every stat and having mostly useless overdrive and no niche he's important for. Auron fills the armor breaking role much better, and everyone else minus maybe Lulu has incredible overdrives
I know this video’s older but how do you feel about vaan in ff12? To my knowledge Balthier and basch are good tanks, fran and penelo are your mages, and ashe is a good intermediate. And an important thing to note is I’m talking about the English ps2 version, I imagine anyone can be useful depending on job choices in ZA or IZJS
Jack is my kryptonite. I think Cinque is way better. Once you get her charge swing move, (could be called Homerun) it's easy to get kill sights. Actually, It's just that I haven't used him much I guess and because I can't solo with him. Cinque I can do that with from the first try.
I agree that most characters who have slots as their limit breaks/special ability/overdrive/whatevers suck ass, but the one huge exception to this is Wakka. Damn are his attack slots easy to unlock, and incredibly easy to stop on the correct choice to get 12 hits per use. With the right Overdrive set up you can get multiple uses in a single battle, plus have other characters keep transferring their Overdrive bars via Entrust...I hate slots, but at the same time, Wakka's attack slot is one of the best attacks in the whole series.
Kimahri is in the very fucking middle of the sphere, he can go down any other characters level path at the very start, you want to have the power of Auron before you get to Luca, send Kimarhi down his path, want a second OP healer/spellcaster, have him follow Yuna, fighting support? follow Tidus, he's THE MOST VERSATILE CHARACTER PERIOD!
The fact he was chilling by an ultima spell made me grind him at level 1 and just get a bunch of locks before I invested in him. I ran lulu towards double cast, and holy, and then I used the friend sphere on them to move them around, then warped back. It's safe to say that he was my pride and joy. He mopped everything with OP spells, and I'm happy they let people use a little know how vs luck.
+LucidCharade except in FFX, the so called "red mage syndrome" (whatever the fuck that is) isn't really an issue because you can get all skills and abilities, theoretically you can run every single character through the entire level sphere and get every single ability and stat power up. it's not like a red mage that would only get select spells and abilities from black and white mages, you can literally get the exact same shit as anyone else
you have to buff selphie's stats to get better spells in her limit. you can use her(and zell and squall are in the party too) to take down diablos immediately when you get the lamp. she's really very good and doesn't belong on the list at all IMO.
They don't this guys just full of shit. Her slots are completely random even when shes 1 hp and has every status effect in the game that cant kill her. the chance goes up with this but its still gonna take a very long time. Far too long to actually make it viable. Just to point it out so he doesn't thinks hes gonna be clever....her stats increase the type of better spells she can use yes..but her limit breaks are still better and are the only reason to use her limit break. using wall is nice but you can just junction spells to vit and sprt and you never take more than 100 damage from anything late game. oh and taking down Diablos fast isn't a hard thing to do without Selphie...
belias360 you raise her magic stat because she's casting spells. i would think it's obvious. also, you can strengthen zell/squall limit breaks by increasing their strength stat. it's not a coincidence. it's elementary.
Gate Cruor well since she can aura and full cure constantly, it's pretty reliable...not sure why you're crying so hard about it. she has 4 special spells she can cast with her limit break and you can get them all consistently if you raise her stats. i find it funny that you think i'm lying.
GreenRay That's not what I'm asking. I wasn't aware boosting her magic stat was a factor in her slot. According to someone else though, it's luck that's a factor, not magic. That would just boost the damage of her magic in general. Besides, her strongest and unique Limits don't even do damage at all or heal for max HP at all times.
I gave your video a thumbs up, but I have to defend Selphie. Her strongest limit break, "The End", can completely take out Omega Weapon (HP = 1,000,000+). Her stronger spells show up more frequently when she's at higher levels, and that makes her dangerous later in the game. You can also use Cactuar boost her stats significantly. Then again, VIII is my favorite game of the series.
I agree, Selphie ended up being one of my mains for FF8 (fear the cute ones). Now, if he REALLY wants worthless, try Vaan (FF12). Not only mediocre in combat, but halfway through the game (after constantly whining about wanting to be a "Sky Pirate", all but forgets about it for the rest of the game.
I'm sorry, but if you have to rely on The End, you suck at the game. Omega Weapon can be easily killed with Squall, Irvine, and Zell or swapping out Irvine with Rinoa... In a game where Limit Breaks differentiate the characters, Selphie is the most useless with her randomness and lack of anything good popping up when needed.
Fun fact Khimahri has in reality the strongest attack in the Entire Game Nova so the only thing that prevent him for being the strongest is the 99999 Damage Limit. Vivi is actually usefull especially in combo with Eiko (Carbuncle putting Reflect on the party + Reflecting a spell such has the élemental spell on the party it's during Disc 2 and until late Disc 3 (well late Chocobo Sidequest actually) the second strongest action you can do), personnaly the character I admitly don't know how tu use properly is Amarant he always ends up being a weak character that don't shine anywhere except for his Trance which is actually Good but considering the Trance mechanic suck in this game. I would also have add Gogo in FFVI problems is he comes way to late in the party, his stats sucks and he can't raise with Esper making him weaker than everybody and by this point of the game you probably already spamming either Ultima or Atma Weapon. Also not really a character but I really don't see any use for the Time Mage in FFXIIIZJS
Doode 352 I know that on the original version it was Auron (except unlike Khimahri it was on extremely specific condition and doesn't work on every ennemy in the game unlike Khimahri's Nova), but now everybody play the Remaster version in other word the International Version and Khimahri's Nova is the strongest attack the player can do (the Magus Sister's overdrive is weaker only the Dark Magus Sisters's Overdrive is stronger)
***** Never say Vivi was worse than Quina on the contrary Quina is one of my main s/he's just like Rikku in FFX a character that can do anything which is severely underrated.
Except when you actually get Nova, everyone is already so much stronger and Nova become's useless. And I think the strongest attack is Wakka's Attack Reel.
I prefer to fight him without the friendly creatures. Even then, I'd rather have white mages and 2 attackers for that fight. The only Issue I ave with Ozma is Meteor.
Edward is only with you in two dungeons, during the first of which every enemy is vulnerable to all his status attacks, preventing them from killing Rydia all the time, and at the end of the second, the boss has an attack so powerful that you actually need to use his hide command to more reliably survive it. I don't think you should've capitulated and included him in the list personally. Good shout including Vivi though :P
Lets agree to disagree shall we? And I disagree about Selphie.... She is technically, the strongest character in FF8 at least. Her " The End" can blow up even Omega Weapon in just one hit!!
The End is very rare and she suffers the same way Vincent suffers in that everybody plays the same in Final Fantasy 7 and 8 and only thing separating are limit breaks and the other characters have limit breaks that are consistently better and more useful.
Vincent has some very good uses. Earlier on, you can use his 255% weapons with deathblow materia and link DBlow to other materia for all sorts of awesome combos. And then, if you get him early and use him a ton, by the time you get his ultimate weapon, which you can also get earlier than most, you can do heck loads of damage.
There is this combo called the Armageddon Fist, it's alternating Booya and Punch Rush or Booya and Heel drop, executing a Finishing move is a waste of time.
+LucidCharade the point of Armageddon Fist is to get the maximum damage from Zell's Duel, that's why it only uses Booya+Punch Rush or Booya+Heel Drop because they only required 2 buttons which can be executed quickly and stop the timer as fast as possible. executing one Finishing Move could mean you will probably lose about 3 to 5 more attack. Finishing move is cool though and some hit multiple enemies.
I would consider Aeris a useless character because in a game where everyone plays the same, save for limit breaks, Aeris is in 3rd place next to Vincent and Cait Sith. Yes, her limit breaks heal but with things like White Wind, Esuna, Restore, Big Guard, and later Full Cure and W-Item after she dies, she isn't really needed. After Fury Brand, Aeris is useful but what is the point of even getting her limit breaks if she won't even be there past Disc 1?
sorry to disagree but the worst character in FFT is a tie between malak and rafa tho cause i played the psp version so much that might be their names in that version but the mantra abilites are way too random for my liking even Cloud isn't as useless as that and his soldier class is still fairly weak in my opinion since the materia blade is the only weapon he can equip and use those skills with. Boco has uses even if it's breeding poach fodder. but the worst character in my opinion goes to Hope from FF13 ok Hope may have some uses but consider role of support in the paradigms is Medic, Synergist, and Ravager there are better in my opinion. Vanille gets Sabatour at least to go with Ravager and medic which makes her useful, Sazh gets his own version of commando and his synergist is better for hitting elemental weaknesses, Lightning gets medic so she can heal. and with the early doctor's code you really don't need medic for a good portion of the game which puts a heavy limit on how good Hope truely is.
Rapha is actually really good in the PSP version. The randomness is still there, but it's not as bad. And with a MA around 20 she can easily hit 999 on enemies if you exploit their weaknesses. So yeah, you can nuke people with her no sweat. Plus her naturally low Brave makes her great for Deep Dungeon/Midlight's Deep item finding. Yes Ramza is better since he can't leave and thus you can go all the way to 1, but I don't like messing with his BR/FA like that. Marach on the other hand...yes he's completely worthless. He should have been on this list.
smward87 that's just it the randomness is there but it's not with a black mage which every character has access to. sorry but i hate having to try and take advantage of terrain to limit the randomness when it's easier just to blast with a magic spell from a black mage or a summoner and be done with it. and even in the psp version there's just better character's if you stack MA and put a magic gun on balthier with barrage he gets more than 999 damage in and with Ramza's squire job using tailwind as well as Luso with it you can abuse stuff like that but you can't speed abuse charge timers so it really limits usefulness sorry i would take boco over either of the 2 any day of the week. i like to abuse tailwind and by not using charge timers when i don't have to it makes it easy for me to do what i wish on the field. Also just a note but Orater/mediator can manipulate bravery and faith enough to make a vanilla character be a damn good mage as well as stuff like shout and steel can manipulate Ramza's bravery enough that im not worried about the grind needed anyway.
Rafa and Malak are even more random to play with than Cait Sith and Selphie. At least with them you know you will hit the enemy with SOMETHING. Rafa and Malak may whiff several times in a row, or hit your own people. I know there is a tiny chance of that for Cait Sith, but with these guys it is like more times than not.
Sorry to say that but Eiko> Garnet. Vivi was useful in my party till the end I even used him as a member agains Ozma. The character from ff9 that I really never used was Amarant.
Zidane - Freya - Amarant - [Eiko/Garnet/Quina] That's all ya need. I usually bring Eiko or Quina as 4th. Gives the team Autolife - Reis Wind - 2 Guaranteed 9999 and a support with Amarant providing mp sustain for healers. Cannot go wrong with this team.
Vivi is useless to have in the party as the game progresses. Cool character yes but not as strong as the rest. People saying otherwise don't realise other game mechanics. He has fairly useful against the hardest bosses because of reflect and return magic however...but still not as good as the rest. Killing Grand Dragons on Disk 1 with Quinas Limit glove is easy levelling. During this you should just use steal with Zidane. Freya's Dragon Crest does 9,999 every attack (killing Dragons to power up) Zidane's Thievery does 9,999 every attack (use steal to power up) Quina's Frog Drop does 9,999 every attack (catch frogs to power up). Not to mention limit glove been ridiculous early game, Lv5 death been really handy. Easily the strongest character in the game, and FF9s Blue Magic is most useful of all FF games from what I remember. Eiko. Better White Mage than Garnet No reason to use Vivi, elemental magic is not needed in this game when 3 characters have max damage non-elemental attacks that ignore all defence (OP much)....and very easy to power all 3 up while doing other tasks. With all the other abilities you get playing with those 4 makes the game crazy easy (even easier then it already was).
Gogo not dope. It can use the combination of all the other character abilities combined. You have to equip them though. Gogo is perhaps one of the better characters.
Gogo is great because you can have him mimic someone like Celes after she casts Ultima twice. Which he can do for free. He's not as powerful, but you just put him in a party with powerful people. Umaro is never useful. Unfortunately. Honestly, without the Imp glitch Cyan is probably the second most useless. He's just slow and his Swd Tech is also slow. He's bad a magic and because Stamina is bugged and Vigor really isn't that big a deal later on, Cyan just sucks. Which is too bad because he's one of my favorite actual characters in the game.
It's not really character that are dope Magic is just extremely OP in FFVI you can beat nearly the entire game by just spamming magic, so by just equip espers that raise Magic and learn strong spell every characters except Umaro is awesome, their personnal skill for the most part completly pales in comparaison to magics.
you make a great point about how you can like the character Vincent and still think he is a crap fighter lol people seem to have a hard time learning that and distinguishing. you make great videos man :D
10. Never played, could judge. 09. I agree, though I have used him just because he is awesome. Team on this one was usually, Yuffie, Cid/Red 13/Vincent, Cloud. 08. Queena was my choice for most useless. I never used him. My team was usually Zidane, Eiko, Adamant/viv, Freya/steiner. I know, odd choice but thats what I went with. ^_^ 07. I agree. 06. I agree, though he is one of my favorite characters outside of usefulness. 05. I agree. My team on this one was usually Quistis, Irvine/zell, Squall. 04. I agree 03. Never played. Cant judge. 02. Completely agree. 01. Never played. Couldn't judge.
One more thing I find the yeti useful for is going up that magic tower. Him just pummeling the crap out of enemies speeds it up a bit for me. There's lots of ways to go about it but that's just how I do it these days. Also, I didn't need to cheat for the Omega kill in 8. Just junction Ultima to selphie's luck and her slots become broken. Just summon eden and then slot away.. it doesn't take long at all at 255 luck. It was glorious!
I like the game. I can see why some people didn’t like it. However, the game’s story and potential was awesome! The FFVII would have more added to their series if the game didn’t received so many bad reviews.
@@reloadpsi Yeah I thought the same for a long time until I hit getting stuck on low level, no card runs where limit spamming becomes a must. The game is free form enough that it doesn't matter. 😄
In my opinion garnet is more useless than vivi. i mean why you will need 2 white mages?. and eiko has more whites mages, meanwhile garnet only has more summons, but these summons make the same damage than a normal zidane's attack does.
I would consider Garnet more of a Summoner with White Mage capabilities and Eiko a White Mage with Summoner capabilities. The reason why I choose Eiko over Garnet in my final party is because I need the better White Mage. I don't really use Summons in Final Fantasy IX because I just find a majority of them to be useless... Summons were much more useful in FFVIII or FFX...
Vincent seems like an odd pick. I beat the game using him on my first try because I hate the personalities and/or designs of Barret, Cait Sith, and Yuffie. Red XIII, Cloud, Tifa, and Vincent were my front runners for sure, in terms of designs and backstories
Guys listen. YES!! I KNOW!!!
Vincent's Death Penalty has a OHKO glitch. Anybody who's ever played this game knows that glitch. I specifically stated in the video, " it takes a long time to power this thing up." By the time you power that weapon up to that point, I could have Killed Emerald Weapon over 50 times. And it doesn't even work on Ruby weapon. Why is this so hard for you to understand??
Darkkefka hey, I'm replaying FF10 HD. I'm on the calm fields or whatever the fuck they're called. Where can I get steal for Kimahri? I need those lvl. 3 spheres.
Look at the sphere grid and find steal. I believe you should have Rikku by the time you hit the calm lands, so it should be easy to locate. Now farm with Kimahri until you can get him to the steal sphere and learn it. That's how the game works. You "level up" your characters and learn abilities by running them through the sphere grid
All is all it's a guessing game. Surely you will find characters more useful than others but another challenge is to turn a disadvantage into an advantage. Trying to win with something weaker tops peoples lists.
Riku is best babe ever, plus I'm an avid Riku user, because she's overpowered as fuck. Thank you for making me realize this. You gained a new sub.
Darkkefka I got Selphie to 255 strength for shits and giggles.
Everybody's broken.
It's awful when a character you like so much overall isn't great to use
When you know you should change character but really don't want to
the reverse is just as bad lol. i couldnt stand that douche irvine in ff8 but the ammo i crafted from toneberrys bypasses armor and does max damage each shot 9999.
screw that douche. I'll never put Irvine on my team.
What's wrong with Irvine? :(
he was the one character I truly hated. i just hated his personality. my team always consisted of sqaull, zell and rinoa.
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I like him cause he was different from all the others. Plus he actually becomes quite humanized when you realize he was only showboating and isn't as confident as he seems.
jeeesus christ VIVI?????? his combo attack with steiner is amazing!
His double Doomsday magic at trance and Return Magic ability are easy way to defeat Ozma
I said..until Eiko Joins....
assuming you did the friendly Side ques first....
Darkkefka Gotcha!
Anyway, I'm glad Quina was not on your list LOL
Although my wife will severely disagree, unlike other characters, Vivi basically sticks to one thing which is offense. In my own experience Vivi is only useful in "Challenges" ("Level 1 Challenge", "Excalibur II", etc..)
Fun Fact: In FFIV the After Years, a unused Blue Magic command was found in the game's code. Many fans think it was supposed to be for Harley, because of her statline and equips. Imagine if she really had Blue Magic!
Ff8 made the word selphie cool before it was cool.
YES!!
No, she wasn't cool then and it isn't cool now.
@@Speculativedude wrong
Still isn’t cool tho
'The End'
I found myself using Vivi a lot in FF IX.
Freya,Vivi, Zidane and Garnet was an unbeatable team.
vivi, steiner, zidane, and garnet for me
you DO need vivi for steiner's sword magic, and that forces doomsday to NEVER hit your party
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Try change garnet to ekko she has stronger white magic garnet will not cast eidolons consistently and ekko has phoenix has a chance to revive all
Just put equipment that absorbs Shadow and Doomsday will fully heal you as well as destroying the oppenent
Nesouk Kefka unless it's ozma
Kimahri can be taught to be pretty much any kind of fighter from the start because he has access to pretty much everyone else's sections of the grid, but because he starts going there later than people their own sections, he'll probably lag behind them. The thing is that his base Magic is higher than Lulu's, so he works wonderfully as a mage. I taught him black magic, used Black Magic Spheres to teach him more powerful spells that Lulu had already learned and managed to teach him Doublecast before Lulu or Yuna, so he actually turned out to be a complete game breaker throughout the story. Especially after Bikanel because he could hit hard with his spells and also use Al Bhed Potions to heal. Well, that and the fact that he could be taught Steal and Use early on, as you mentioned.
Although once you get the airship and start doing optional stuff, yes, he becomes pretty much useless and his Overdrives do suck. Except Nova, if you get it before you can reach 99,999 with the others' Overdrives.
That was how remaster play through went.
I always thought it was apparent (at least to myself it was) that he was a jack of all trades, but a master of none type of character. At least until you train him up to be a master of what ever you wanted. He was always in my main team. Kimarhi, Auron, and Tidus where my "A" team. ^_^
I just stuck evade & counter on Auron and had him in permanent cover, he was my main sweeper until omega dungeon. and not sure if it was a glitch, everytime he went to cover an ally he dodged it which triggered his evade & counter, so not only was he hitting hard very quickly from cover counter combo he was also dodging everything and taking no damage
I still use him
Auron and Lulu are too slow to use I once switched Auron in to use the overdrive with all the status effects on the final boss but he was so slow that I wasn't able to switch him out before being killed
Why Vivi??? That's why you having trouble in defeating Ozma lol
Amarant
Vivi is one of the most useless character against Ozma XD
Lmao, I've beaten Ozma countless times without Vivi. Vivi isnt bad, but the other characters can be just as good; without having to use as much MP
Absorber999
So basically. Vivi would be good in any other final fantasy but because the FF9 group is so busted that Vivi just kinda gets outclassed. Right? (Correct me if I’m wrong)
Bro no offense but the pretty much force you to use vivi if you use steiner to use mag sword
I like Kimahri's concept as a party member: a combination of Blue Mage and Dragoon. Also, that character design is AWESOME!
Coolest FFX Character👍
Nah he sucks. I never used it. Lameee
The saddest thing about Kimahri is that his setup depends on the player’s choice. The only thing that belongs to him specifically is Lancet and its pretty useful in the early stages as you can get a lot of useful overdrives like Stone Breath and Bad Breath. But when Rikku joins the party he pretty much becomes useless. The best way to use him is as a thief to get the sphere grids when he fights Biran and Yenke.
@@mahmoud6843 he can use the ultima's or omega overdrive
"I'm a pervert and I try to use as many females as I possibly can."
-Darkkefka 2016
You know, whenever I storm Kefka's tower, I always make sure that every team is headed by a female character.
Vivi ur crazy man!!! Him and zidane are guaranteed starters for me
vivi is overated by far , hes one of the worst character in ffIX
If you want a magical beater just frog drop the s*** out of enemies with Quina.
@@illumina91 but his combo with steiner...
@@illumina91 . I agree.
Vivi's OP if anything
I had a feeling Cait sith would be high up there. I have only discovered one use for Cait sith. his dice limit break actually is useful for speedrunning but that's it. I do indeed plan on speedrunning that game the next time I stream so you will see what I mean
You can actually manipulate his second Limit, once you get how to do that he is actually OP and can One-Shot everything in the game, so personnaly I think he is more like Kweena and Rikku a very strong character which is very underrated, tough like DK with Kweena I don't use Cait Sith because I don't like him at all.
JOC217 supposedly, there is a set up to allow Cait's slots to always destroy the enemy (it involves auto-reviving after death joker). Also, it got better in FFRK, where its a dancer and bard.
cool
Oh my God, I got brutally stuck at a boss midway through VII when Vincent transformed into his fire limit... on a boss who absorbed fire.
Lol, I did the exact same thing. You’re probably talking about the materia keeper (I think that’s its name), the first boss you fight after the earliest point you can get Vincent in the party. It really is stupid that the game actively discourages you from using your brand new character right away with that boss.
On the topic of most useless characters, how about a "Top 10 Useless Summons"? That should be fun
Can already think of one: Carbuncle in FF8 (reflect is such a useless status in that game, there's pretty much no reason to EVER use it)
Mixed feelings about Vivi, after I got Eiko, I stopped using Vivi in general. Steiner can hold his own after you get certain abilities, Eiko can cast offensive and defensive spells and summons. He more or less gets phased out after disk 2
Vivi useless? r u nuts?
I clearly said that I didn't have a use FOR him....
+Darkkefka fu
Yeah sadly Vivi is not that useful even when you play level 1 or excalibur II challenge although he's useful when the game force you to use him. I actually try to use him on my level 1 playlist because people don't know how to use him, similar to Kimahri..
veeshadow fu
veeshadow that's more of a YOU problem then since you're doing those stupid challenges.
What's funny is that if there was no damage cap, Kimahri would be the most consistent person to deal tons of damage (Max Magic Nova overdrive and crit deals near 5 mil.)
yeah..it's a shame. That would have been nice.
Darkkefka Yeah. Kimahri just got the short stick. His Celestial Weapon didn't save him from being always shafted, either. At least he's incredibly helpful early game, especially in NSG, with the second highest HP and having Piercing.
How is Vivi one of the most useless? He's consistently one of the best characters in the game.
Nobody’s calling him a bad character, but being a great character doesn’t necessarily mean being useful in battle. I do have to disagree with him being the most useless character in 9 as Amarant is undeniably far worse than anyone else.
In The After Years, Edward's actually an awesome party member, beating out even the best of the games' White Mage's as a support. He can Salve items like Dry Ethers to restore the MP of every party member for price of one Dry Ether, and items like Phoenix Down can work the same way. Not to mention Bardsong, which has a chance of casting Shell and Protect on all party members at higher levels, and Hastemarch which casts Haste on all party members, both of which requiring no MP.
He's no longer forced to hide when his HP is low, making him very handy for the many hard-hitting superbosses. If everyone else gets KO'd in one attack, Edward can come back, and thanks to his great speed he can Salve Phoenix Downs then some X-Potions for the whole party. Not to mention that his passive Item Lore ability doubles the power of items.
He's not broken like he can get in the original game, but he's still easily one the best characters in the game, and I use him gladly over any White Mage.
Again, just in The After Years.
Yeah, in After Years he's a complete badass. While the rest of the game callously recycles plot beats from the original game and wastes a ton of your time doing so, for me it was totally worth it to see Edward's growth. His and Kain's arcs in that game were the two things that felt truly new. And that scene where he stood up to Kain's dark half, holy shit. Balls of steel.
When I first played FF10 I did not really use Kimahri. Now I use him alot.
Not gonna lie, honestly thought I'd find Penelo from XII on here, literally only ever used her when I was forced to.
Honestly had no idea what she was even there for.
As for Vivi, just whhyyyy? I'd personally swap Vivi from your list with Amarant, another FF Character I never ever, ever used. :P
Characters in 12 are roughly equal
Am I wrong about Cait Sith guys? Is there really a fixed way to control his slots besides pausing it with the square button?
Nope your are dead on about it, I was 10 and I try 12 hours just to get that last slot.
I'm still getting use to Final fantasy franchise so far I like it also I want to thank you if it wasn't for you I would have never get into the franchise.
Well for my part I used it to kill both weapons on my first play through of the game when I was about 11 and youtube did not exist but I used it from what I remember it makes a reaper appear and it give a scythe hit that instant kills anything except if emerald weapon does not have his hand in the sand. I had to practice my eye a lot and my timing but when i got the timing right and memorized the other of the figures I got it almost any time. It's hard but doable
Should Machina from final fantasy type 0 should also be a useless character since he pretty much betray class 0
Well, when I was in Junior High there were a few gamer girls (yep, believe me) that liked him/her/it? because uhhh "cute"....
I used to spam (or use a turbo controller or macro on PC) the square button but even with that the computer is being a d*ck that it skips the last picture, I meant "duck"
Other than using GS, it ain't easy. I've only got that to appear once in my lifetime and couldn't do it again...
I never used him so I wouldn't know. I just didn't think he'd be worth it
honestly kimahri is not that bad if you train him up properly. like taking him on routes of Auron or wakka on grid can make him cause some pretty damn damage to fiends.
I disagree with Selphie being in the List and im surprised Lulu didn't make it either but Kimahri I could totally relate.
Lulu is a mage but then again so is Yuna and you can have her learn black and white magic so yes, Lulu is quite uslesss to me.
I don't know, man. I thought the same thing the first time I played the game. I thought Lulu was great as well. Over the years, I've realized it is the opposite. Lulu is useful for a portion of the game, but her reliance on offensive magic makes her weaker. Rikku or Yuna can get her key spells with other spheres and then do other great things. You could argue that she could do the same with their spells, but she is much slower than both of them.
Now, Kimahri's limit is junky compared to most others in the game. However, he starts very close to Titus on the sphere grid. I don't think many people would contest that Titus is the best in the game, whether you're talking the normal game or going to max out your characters. His speed and strength are essentially equal to Titus. Kimahri can quickly get in Titus' path and get everything he gets, just about 10 levels behind. So, double delay attack can make it so many early bosses never even get a turn, double haste + quick attack later in the game means you get about 20 turns before the enemy gets one. It's nuts. If you're going to max your characters, Kimahri loses it over time since anyone else gets the same benefits and his limit weighs him down. Either way, he's not even close to the worst guy in the game, and even further from the top 10 worst FF characters.
Knowing DK, Lulu gets a pass because of her boobs. :P
PuftPrin Good point and I don't blame him if im honest.
stevieFFmaster who doesn't like those piercing purple eyes and big titties?!
Eiko and vivi are actually the characters i must have in my team lol.
Amarant is the most useless for me
When I think of Useless characters. I take the story into account too. Like Khimahri, but lets be real here. You could remove the Ronso from FFX fully and the story wouldn't charge at all. They play no important role but to make Seymour Flux and that's a unforgivable sin all together. Everything Khimahri does important to the story. He does 10 years ago and we don't see it. That is why I would put Vaan because of how completely USELESS he is to the story. I mean would any of you of care if Ashe was the Main Character in FF12?
in 12 techically everyone is a main because everyonr has their own arc but vaan isnt useless in the story because if u think about it ashe would be dead if it wasnt for vaan
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That's a technicality. Any of the characters could have done that
not really since in the begnning it was vaan who save ashe from the nights so those event would have stilled happened the only that would have changed if if vaan and them would have been there but since vaan decided to sneak into the castle the story is only possible thanks to him
Vaan is awesome. He's probably the most well-balanced for all the characters. I know I know, he gets a lot of hate because he's kinda bland, but he is no where near useless. If you wanna go for useless in FF12, it's gotta be Penelo.
I was trying to make a point about Khimahri when it comes to the story. Funny how indoctrinated FF12 fans can only see Vaan. Clearly I was talking about the story. FF12's combat is another form of Cancer we can talk about at a later date
Has Selphie ever taken a Selfie?
Considering she runs the Garden's social media site, it's highly possible she has. XD
See Rule34.
LOLOLOL
TheGrandRevo Har dee har har.
TheGrandRevo Sophi is the only character that can 1shot omega weapon.
it should be called "10 FF characters that I hate"
Nothing to do with 'my favorite character'-salty thing whatsoever. Ok, that is 'based on his experience' right?, so that basically means, those are characters that 'he hate". What am i wrong here?? ps* (he also "fuck!" everybody who hate characters that he like. So, he is also salty.. lol..)
WGORAX let me get this straight.. He don't like those characters right? And he knows some people like those characters that he listed and he said "fuck u!!". Isn't that means he HATE those characters? It doesn't matter whether people agree with him or not.. it still 'HE HATE THOSE CHARACTERS'. I never said he's wrong or right.. :-)
To use. "10 FF characters that I hate to use."
Also, didn't you hear him saying he liked Selphie as a character a lot and yet he had to put her on the list?
It was entirely based on his experience with the character and the game. Anyone that make Top 10 video always make it with their own personal preference, except some of WatchMojo's Top 10.
There are some characters that he likes in the series, but he had to put them on this list because they are useless (to him).
It's not character he hate, he actually said he like Selphie and Cinque as characters they just suck in battle for him anyway.
“(Selphie’s) limit sucks and is the worst limit in the game.”
Actually has the best limit in the game. And can easily get what you’re after
Phillip Bentle The Full Cure on Slot totally saved my party from total KO several times!
selphie sucks but quistis and rinoa probably worse
In FF7 8 9, main protagonist is forced to be in party, imagine, squall dont have Lion heart, Cloud dont have Omnislash. Now you stuck with sucky character.
I mostly get what i after on her, depends on the angle 😋
@@bustymcnutters801 . How is Rinoa worse, Angel Wing with Meteor is mortal.
I love this guy. Just found these vids while looking for ffx guides and I like it. The low res mic makes it so much more enjoyable when he rages. :D
On one hand, I want to object to Selphie being here at all (I'm admittedly a Selphie fanboy)... but after watching the entry for her, I can't really deny it. Zell gets Armageddon Fist, Quistis is the Blue Mage (and this was the era where Blue Magic was insane), Irvine has Fast Ammo, Rinoa you can pretty much rig to have stupid chances of getting Invincible Moon or Wishing Star (and even if you don't there's always Meteor Wing), and Squall's Squall. Selphie? ...Your best bet later on is to que up Eden and Bahamut, then hope you get something during those animations. She's awesome when she strikes gold, but.... yeah, even I'll admit she's too random compared to the other five. Overall, solid list.
Howcome you didn't pick Amarant? His ultimate weapon sucks and is normally the last one for me to obtain outside of EX-2 and even Ragnarok is stronger anyway, and all his abilities are weaker than everyone elses, the only person with a worse trance is Quina but Quinas regular abilities are better than his in trance anyway. It's a shame really as I kinda like him as a character, same with Selphie, I tend to use her and Quistis as they are my fave chars, Rinoa kinda started to tick me off after like my 50th playthrough.
I disagree. he was basically one of the best in my party plus I love his abilities. I do agree that I like his character alot though.
In your party perhaps, but if you max out every single character he ends up bringing the least to the table, and everyone can do consistent 9999 damage except him sadly and a non-trance garnet, he's like a cross between freya and quina with worse abilities and relegated to the front line unless used for support, and as support why would you use him over quina, eiko, garnet or even vivi with a healing doomsday build whom can all outdamage him.
It's sad as hes my fave character outside of combat; my least fave being eiko and freya and freya is the best in combat out of everyone, low cost constant 9999s even against mobs with protect from the back row without need of any stones wasted on "Killer" or long reach plus heavy armour and jump as icing, I find it hard not picking her in my lineup unless doing a challenge game.
don't forget No Mercy! That move does a lot of damage.
ultimately all the characters just depend on how you use them.
No they do not depend on "How you use them" that is personal preference; the accepted most efficient method to get through bosses is burning them down as fast as possible thus making highest damage dealers the "Most useful" if you maximise all characters then amarant is the weakest character unless you somehow have an unlimited source of wing edges; which are far more of a pain to farm than anyone elses minigames/mechanics or spend a fortune on a char to do what everyone else can do a limited number of times.
I came back to this list after doing some research into After Years, and I found some things to point out about Harley:
1. No, she does not get any better in late levels. In fact, she's still terrible. Her Max HP never goes above 5,000 and all her stats besides MP only get to low-mid 50's at level 99.
2. She does actually have some other bands she can use that don't require Edward to be in the party, but they require having Rydia, Izayoi, and either Leonora or Rosa in order to actually use the bands, and even then they don't really seem that useful.
dude amarant is more useless than Vivi and Vivi kicks ass. I disagree with you so much on this subject it's not even funny. leaving vivi out of your party also totally nerfs Steiner. I agree with the rest of your list, but I can't fathom choosing vivi over amarant.
Yeah.. I ignored amarant in every gameplay lol...
Yeah I barely use his ass, Vivi is one of my mains in FF9
Awww Selphie is one of my main characters to go to. Full cure saved me when I was in a pickle and the chances of getting The End may be hard to get but when you do on a boss without freezing the game it's awesome. I've got it before the 3rd form died and then was used on ultimicia and she started talking which means she does already. Also, in FF8 I use all the characters evenly...junctioning everyone with GF and stats and fight ultimicia with any 3 characters she picks first.
Vincent was my main Healer/Mage after Aeris, he has great magic stats.
Aeris.
@@Tengokuchi Corrected, thanks.
We're going to have to agree to disagree on Vivi. He was one of my main party members. But as you said, it depends on HOW you play. I usually have wht mage, blk mage, thief and warrior in any FF game. Steiner and Vivi make an AWESOME team! I do agree with Cait Sith though (the traitor). And Khimari steals abilities. You steal the right ones and he is OP.
"And don't even think for a second that Rikku will be on this list. you just don't know how to use her"
...Well, one could use this same sentence against you. Specially Kimahri! He can be the best character without any grinding at all. He only get behind in the optional content because of the lack of multi-hiting overdrives.
Vivi? Are you joking? Use auto-reflect on all your characters and x2 reflect magic on Vivi. Then make Vivi use a giant nuke on your whole party to do 800% damage compared to what the spell would normally do. Learn how to play before you make a video like this.
A better fitting name here is "Top 10 characters I don´t use in FF because I find them useless".
I personally love kimahri, he ends up my parties tank over auron and tidus. Putting him on wakkas path helps a bunch for status effects
Yo DK, I know you love the females of the franchise but it'd be interesting to see your Top 10 favorite male characters in the franchise(or at least in the games you've played)
Vivi is one of my favorite characters, his black magic is powerful, you can't tell he's useless.
Agree to that. Idk why hw chose vivi.
@@cloudesbutler9628 listen to what he said. He didn't say he was useless just that he didn't have a use for him.
+Darkkefka Another thing about Spoony, is that his usefulness skyrockets in the 3D remake. He can do more than just use Potions for Salve (though it'll use more than one of that healing item), has many useful bardsongs (including the overpowered Hastemarch, which stacks on top of the Haste spell), and given enough Augments, you actually GET his Bardsong ability as one.
Have you played FF12? If so, what characters from that would be on this list?
It’s hard to say in ff12 all characters can use the same weapon and abilities and they only have slightly different stats so pretty much they are all the same
I adore Snow! He's the mono character for XIII
"Sees name of video"
Oho this is gonna be good, the salt will be strong in the comment sections! Let's see how it compared for me, who knows, may add to the salt pile myself......
#10 Good start, fully agree! Should be a bit higher though, but I never had the versions of the game where he apparently got better so I can't judge.
#9 On the hedge with this one, I used Vincent a lot because I noticed that he was the most consistently powerful Mage for the party, so I had him setup as my parties Mage. All things considered though, I can see why others wouldn't use him at all, a very finicky party member (but nowhere, NOWHERE near as useless as Cait Sith, fk that cat! Insta team killing sunnuva-!)
#8 Hrm, Vivi was a mainstay for me, I like my mages XD. Amarant/Eiko were the ones I'd say was least used, Steiner brought better utility and combined with Vivi well (I liked their whole synergy gimmick, it was fun ^^), and Garnet was better setup than Eiko.
#7 Ain't played, can't judge.
#6 Agreed, Kimahri has insane versatility, but he's a poor jack of all trades, master of none, all others can be matched up to cover those roles and do it way better than he can.
#5 Agreed, although FF8 characters were all kinda indistinct due to the way the junction system worked, Selphie's limits just weren't realistically good enough, and when limits are really the only thing that tell party members apart, that's bad.
#4 Ain't played, can't judge. (well, I did, but only got about 10 hours in)
#3 Ain't played, can't judge.
#2 As I said earlier, fk Cait Sith, deserves number 1 IMO
#1 Ain't played, can't judge.
Finally someone said what I have been saying about Vincent for years. He is worthless. Mostly due to his limit break. Yes cait sith is worthless but he was a joke character to begin with. So little expectation from him. But Vincent was portrayed as a bad ass. And he sucked.
I played with cait sith I'd I wanted a challenge in the game.
Really? I find that everyone can be really good if you actually want it.
Excluding Limit Break however Vincent has one of the most OP Final Weapon in the game XD
@@nesoukkefka1741 that is true. Wonder if they will nerf his weapon in the remake?
@@catsithx . He is also the best mage in the game, well, after Aerith, but she doesn't count.
There is one other factor to take into account when choosing a party in FF7, and that is triple material growth weapons. Cloud and Cid each have one, as well as the best limit breaks, so these two are shoe-ins. For your third party member, the choice is between two candidates with very good (level 3) limit breaks: Barret and Yuffie. They both do about the same damage with their multi-hit limits, but what puts Yuffie over the edge is that her ultimate weapon allows her to morph an enemy with the full power of a regular attack, instead of its default diminished damage.
I also don’t use Vivi. I love him as a character, but other characters can also deal great damage for far less MP. And you don’t need to memorize or look up what enemies are weak to which schools of magic. Just smack them. You also don’t need him for Ozma. Just do your gem-trading right and you can smack him at melee range.
Omg that Mt. Gagazet music is so beautiful, I love Kimarhi but took me a while to find use for him.
I thought quina was the useless one in FF9... random damage, gotta spend time eating tons of monsters to get all the attacks...
only a few of the blue magic skills was honestly worth it, but they were also situational....
Frog Drop, Mighty Guard, Angel's Snack, Auto-Life. Enough reason to use Quina.
Quina was a beast. What are you talking about.
Quina is game breakingly good. You are mistaken.
@@bustymcnutters801 its almost as if, every character in ix fits a niche... which ends up as more of a preference of gameplay style than actual usability...
@@Pandadude-eg9li Always leave an adult male and female alive on the marsh. Never kill everything.
"You just don't know how to use her"
Savage
well on cait sith it is very rare to get death joker it is actually easier to get game over and when I played ffvii he was the only character I maxed out. it is annoying to do the slots yes but they are fun to use. and helpful in some situations. but I do agree with the Vincent placing on this list.
thegaming phoenix DDD sucks as much as u do on the weekends
I actually mained Cinque when i played that, she was slow but it really forces you to rely on the killsight system in the game and makes it more fun for me. Plus her 'gaia pulse'? i think its called that is suuuper broken for a lot of enemies. i beat two behemoths with her at the start of the game with only cinque, made a video for it lol. But i can still understand why people dont wanna play a slow character in that kind of game. But for me shes actually pretty useful
Is it bad when I read Umaro's name out loud, my first image is Komaru from Ultra Despair Girls looking like Umaro? Because Toko calls her Omaru, which swaps the first and last letter in Omaru's name.
How about Top 10 Hardest Dungeons and Top 10 usless spells/summons?
I feel the same way about Kimahri, I was itching to replace him from the moment he joined. That being said the real travesty of FF10 (the original PS2 US version) is how horrible Lulu actually is. You think she's marginally useful but if you take Yuna over to the Black Magic portion of the grid you suddenly realize that Yuna just completely outclasses Lulu and can do so from pretty early on in the game.
I think this was partially fixed in the remaster but my memory is hazy. I just remember I stopped playing for several weeks when I was a kid because I was so annoyed at how much time I wasted on Lulu only to have Yuna trivialize her whole existence.
Yeah but her post-battle pose tho...
Yeah, I realized that too when I give Yuna some black magic spells like fire and Blizzard, then I compare the damage of yuna's magic to Lulu's black magic, yuna's Fire/Water/Thunder/Blizzard Damage has the same damage of Lulu's Fira/Watera/Thundara/Blizzara
Yeah I barely used Kimahri and LuLu
With ffx though, eventually everyone becomes everything when the sphere grid is maxed out so there is no real useless character except for the damage cap then it's about multi hit overdrives so Lulu and Kimahri fall off.
@karson styles true
I used Selphie's Limit Break to conjure "The End" in my fight with Omega Weapon.
Lucky guy
I've gone many different routes with kimahri, and they tend to end up the same. With kimarhi being mediocre in every stat and having mostly useless overdrive and no niche he's important for. Auron fills the armor breaking role much better, and everyone else minus maybe Lulu has incredible overdrives
I know this video’s older but how do you feel about vaan in ff12? To my knowledge Balthier and basch are good tanks, fran and penelo are your mages, and ashe is a good intermediate. And an important thing to note is I’m talking about the English ps2 version, I imagine anyone can be useful depending on job choices in ZA or IZJS
You just don't know how to properly use Vivi.
my favorite character in Type-0 is Jack imo, he may be slow but Jesus he hits like a truck
This. Jack was my best character, followed by Trey.
Jack is my kryptonite. I think Cinque is way better. Once you get her charge swing move, (could be called Homerun) it's easy to get kill sights. Actually, It's just that I haven't used him much I guess and because I can't solo with him. Cinque I can do that with from the first try.
Solo-ing with Jack was pretty easy for me from the start. ^_^' I just never had a hard time figuring out his moveset.
my game was just jack and deuce to win
Know I can use everyone. they're all good.
In no way is Vivi ever useless. He's one of the best mages out there.
The only mage you need in this game is a healer.
@@SeventhheavenDK or you can have Vivi on your team and end every random encounter in one turn.
@@Tengokuchi . Unless you are revisiting an old area, you mean.
@Charlie Wild . I think the same.
I agree that most characters who have slots as their limit breaks/special ability/overdrive/whatevers suck ass, but the one huge exception to this is Wakka. Damn are his attack slots easy to unlock, and incredibly easy to stop on the correct choice to get 12 hits per use. With the right Overdrive set up you can get multiple uses in a single battle, plus have other characters keep transferring their Overdrive bars via Entrust...I hate slots, but at the same time, Wakka's attack slot is one of the best attacks in the whole series.
Love the video man. Long time subscriber here
What? Selphie is one of the most OP characters in FF! Cast aura on Selphie, summon Eden, profit.
You mean The End?
@@SeventhheavenDK You summon Eden so you have all the free time you could need to find The End
@@Youkai2100 . Ahhhh, I see.
Every character in Final Fantasy 13
Kimahri doesn't suck...you just don't know how to play him
No kidding, Lancet is one of the most OP ability's in FFX. His weapon type is very good as well.
Kimahri is in the very fucking middle of the sphere, he can go down any other characters level path at the very start, you want to have the power of Auron before you get to Luca, send Kimarhi down his path, want a second OP healer/spellcaster, have him follow Yuna, fighting support? follow Tidus, he's THE MOST VERSATILE CHARACTER PERIOD!
The fact he was chilling by an ultima spell made me grind him at level 1 and just get a bunch of locks before I invested in him. I ran lulu towards double cast, and holy, and then I used the friend sphere on them to move them around, then warped back. It's safe to say that he was my pride and joy. He mopped everything with OP spells, and I'm happy they let people use a little know how vs luck.
+LucidCharade except in FFX, the so called "red mage syndrome" (whatever the fuck that is) isn't really an issue because you can get all skills and abilities, theoretically you can run every single character through the entire level sphere and get every single ability and stat power up. it's not like a red mage that would only get select spells and abilities from black and white mages, you can literally get the exact same shit as anyone else
Christopher Hall where did u take him in the sphere grid? i use him for scan but now he is useless to me
you have to buff selphie's stats to get better spells in her limit. you can use her(and zell and squall are in the party too) to take down diablos immediately when you get the lamp. she's really very good and doesn't belong on the list at all IMO.
Where was it said that her stats had a direct effect on the randomization of her slots?
They don't this guys just full of shit. Her slots are completely random even when shes 1 hp and has every status effect in the game that cant kill her. the chance goes up with this but its still gonna take a very long time. Far too long to actually make it viable. Just to point it out so he doesn't thinks hes gonna be clever....her stats increase the type of better spells she can use yes..but her limit breaks are still better and are the only reason to use her limit break. using wall is nice but you can just junction spells to vit and sprt and you never take more than 100 damage from anything late game. oh and taking down Diablos fast isn't a hard thing to do without Selphie...
belias360 you raise her magic stat because she's casting spells. i would think it's obvious. also, you can strengthen zell/squall limit breaks by increasing their strength stat. it's not a coincidence. it's elementary.
Gate Cruor well since she can aura and full cure constantly, it's pretty reliable...not sure why you're crying so hard about it. she has 4 special spells she can cast with her limit break and you can get them all consistently if you raise her stats. i find it funny that you think i'm lying.
GreenRay That's not what I'm asking. I wasn't aware boosting her magic stat was a factor in her slot. According to someone else though, it's luck that's a factor, not magic. That would just boost the damage of her magic in general. Besides, her strongest and unique Limits don't even do damage at all or heal for max HP at all times.
I gave your video a thumbs up, but I have to defend Selphie. Her strongest limit break, "The End", can completely take out Omega Weapon (HP = 1,000,000+). Her stronger spells show up more frequently when she's at higher levels, and that makes her dangerous later in the game. You can also use Cactuar boost her stats significantly. Then again, VIII is my favorite game of the series.
I agree, Selphie ended up being one of my mains for FF8 (fear the cute ones). Now, if he REALLY wants worthless, try Vaan (FF12). Not only mediocre in combat, but halfway through the game (after constantly whining about wanting to be a "Sky Pirate", all but forgets about it for the rest of the game.
I'm sorry, but if you have to rely on The End, you suck at the game. Omega Weapon can be easily killed with Squall, Irvine, and Zell or swapping out Irvine with Rinoa... In a game where Limit Breaks differentiate the characters, Selphie is the most useless with her randomness and lack of anything good popping up when needed.
Fun fact Khimahri has in reality the strongest attack in the Entire Game Nova so the only thing that prevent him for being the strongest is the 99999 Damage Limit.
Vivi is actually usefull especially in combo with Eiko (Carbuncle putting Reflect on the party + Reflecting a spell such has the élemental spell on the party it's during Disc 2 and until late Disc 3 (well late Chocobo Sidequest actually) the second strongest action you can do), personnaly the character I admitly don't know how tu use properly is Amarant he always ends up being a weak character that don't shine anywhere except for his Trance which is actually Good but considering the Trance mechanic suck in this game.
I would also have add Gogo in FFVI problems is he comes way to late in the party, his stats sucks and he can't raise with Esper making him weaker than everybody and by this point of the game you probably already spamming either Ultima or Atma Weapon.
Also not really a character but I really don't see any use for the Time Mage in FFXIIIZJS
The strongest attack in FFX is different on different ports of the game, not counting the Magus Sisters' final attack. (I forgot what it's called)
Doode 352 I know that on the original version it was Auron (except unlike Khimahri it was on extremely specific condition and doesn't work on every ennemy in the game unlike Khimahri's Nova), but now everybody play the Remaster version in other word the International Version and Khimahri's Nova is the strongest attack the player can do (the Magus Sister's overdrive is weaker only the Dark Magus Sisters's Overdrive is stronger)
Zanmato is debatable since it doesn't show the actual damage in numbers. . . I think it's classified as a status effect but I might be wrong
***** Never say Vivi was worse than Quina on the contrary Quina is one of my main s/he's just like Rikku in FFX a character that can do anything which is severely underrated.
Except when you actually get Nova, everyone is already so much stronger and Nova become's useless. And I think the strongest attack is Wakka's Attack Reel.
No wonder you have so much trouble with Ozma. You don't use Vivi! He is my main attacker in that fight with doomsday.
I prefer to fight him without the friendly creatures. Even then, I'd rather have white mages and 2 attackers for that fight. The only Issue I ave with Ozma is Meteor.
Yea, he is pretty ridiculous if you don't do friendly monsters.
Vivi is actually one of the strongest/most useful characters in his game. He's really powerful and all you really need is one White Mage.
GirtheAlienGoldfish did you listen to what he said he said that vivi is not a useless character just that he has no use for him
Edward is only with you in two dungeons, during the first of which every enemy is vulnerable to all his status attacks, preventing them from killing Rydia all the time, and at the end of the second, the boss has an attack so powerful that you actually need to use his hide command to more reliably survive it.
I don't think you should've capitulated and included him in the list personally.
Good shout including Vivi though :P
Kimarhi is very useful. Do you have any idea how long it would take for everyone to get Ultima if we didn't have Kimarhi's spot to teleport to?
Lets agree to disagree shall we? And I disagree about Selphie.... She is technically, the strongest character in FF8 at least. Her " The End" can blow up even Omega Weapon in just one hit!!
The End is very rare and she suffers the same way Vincent suffers in that everybody plays the same in Final Fantasy 7 and 8 and only thing separating are limit breaks and the other characters have limit breaks that are consistently better and more useful.
Vincent has some very good uses. Earlier on, you can use his 255% weapons with deathblow materia and link DBlow to other materia for all sorts of awesome combos. And then, if you get him early and use him a ton, by the time you get his ultimate weapon, which you can also get earlier than most, you can do heck loads of damage.
In the right hands, Zell has the most devastating limit break. Selphie's one hit wonder isn't something you can rely on.
There is this combo called the Armageddon Fist, it's alternating Booya and Punch Rush or Booya and Heel drop, executing a Finishing move is a waste of time.
+LucidCharade the point of Armageddon Fist is to get the maximum damage from Zell's Duel, that's why it only uses Booya+Punch Rush or Booya+Heel Drop because they only required 2 buttons which can be executed quickly and stop the timer as fast as possible. executing one Finishing Move could mean you will probably lose about 3 to 5 more attack. Finishing move is cool though and some hit multiple enemies.
As soon as I heard the ff6 music, I knew it would be Umaro lol
I thought it was going to be Gogo... but then, I forgot Umaro existed until the name / image popped up LOL
Vivi was always in my party.
I would consider Aeris a useless character because in a game where everyone plays the same, save for limit breaks, Aeris is in 3rd place next to Vincent and Cait Sith. Yes, her limit breaks heal but with things like White Wind, Esuna, Restore, Big Guard, and later Full Cure and W-Item after she dies, she isn't really needed.
After Fury Brand, Aeris is useful but what is the point of even getting her limit breaks if she won't even be there past Disc 1?
Totally agreed
Relm had a great use, sketching Gau when he returns in the Veldt to glitch your cartridge into giving you tons of items!
Oooh
I'll make a final fantasy record keeper team of some of these guys ;).
This'll be fun.
sorry to disagree but the worst character in FFT is a tie between malak and rafa tho cause i played the psp version so much that might be their names in that version but the mantra abilites are way too random for my liking even Cloud isn't as useless as that and his soldier class is still fairly weak in my opinion since the materia blade is the only weapon he can equip and use those skills with. Boco has uses even if it's breeding poach fodder. but the worst character in my opinion goes to Hope from FF13 ok Hope may have some uses but consider role of support in the paradigms is Medic, Synergist, and Ravager there are better in my opinion. Vanille gets Sabatour at least to go with Ravager and medic which makes her useful, Sazh gets his own version of commando and his synergist is better for hitting elemental weaknesses, Lightning gets medic so she can heal. and with the early doctor's code you really don't need medic for a good portion of the game which puts a heavy limit on how good Hope truely is.
Rapha is actually really good in the PSP version. The randomness is still there, but it's not as bad. And with a MA around 20 she can easily hit 999 on enemies if you exploit their weaknesses. So yeah, you can nuke people with her no sweat. Plus her naturally low Brave makes her great for Deep Dungeon/Midlight's Deep item finding. Yes Ramza is better since he can't leave and thus you can go all the way to 1, but I don't like messing with his BR/FA like that.
Marach on the other hand...yes he's completely worthless. He should have been on this list.
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that's just it the randomness is there but it's not with a black mage which every character has access to. sorry but i hate having to try and take advantage of terrain to limit the randomness when it's easier just to blast with a magic spell from a black mage or a summoner and be done with it. and even in the psp version there's just better character's if you stack MA and put a magic gun on balthier with barrage he gets more than 999 damage in and with Ramza's squire job using tailwind as well as Luso with it you can abuse stuff like that but you can't speed abuse charge timers so it really limits usefulness sorry i would take boco over either of the 2 any day of the week. i like to abuse tailwind and by not using charge timers when i don't have to it makes it easy for me to do what i wish on the field. Also just a note but Orater/mediator can manipulate bravery and faith enough to make a vanilla character be a damn good mage as well as stuff like shout and steel can manipulate Ramza's bravery enough that im not worried about the grind needed anyway.
Rafa and Malak are even more random to play with than Cait Sith and Selphie. At least with them you know you will hit the enemy with SOMETHING. Rafa and Malak may whiff several times in a row, or hit your own people. I know there is a tiny chance of that for Cait Sith, but with these guys it is like more times than not.
Sorry to say that but Eiko> Garnet. Vivi was useful in my party till the end I even used him as a member agains Ozma. The character from ff9 that I really never used was Amarant.
True. It's just that having 2 attackers was more than enough for me, so I like to have 2 white mages...just incase.
Amarant was the BEST character in the game. A cool mixture of monk and ninja.
Renan Victor AMARANT IS A MAGE SUPPORT LOL HIS CHAKRA CAN HEAL AND RESTORE MP SO INFINITE SUMMONS FOR GARNET/EIKO AND DOOMSDAY FOR VIBI
Zidane - Freya - Amarant - [Eiko/Garnet/Quina] That's all ya need. I usually bring Eiko or Quina as 4th. Gives the team Autolife - Reis Wind - 2 Guaranteed 9999 and a support with Amarant providing mp sustain for healers. Cannot go wrong with this team.
Vivi is useless to have in the party as the game progresses. Cool character yes but not as strong as the rest. People saying otherwise don't realise other game mechanics. He has fairly useful against the hardest bosses because of reflect and return magic however...but still not as good as the rest.
Killing Grand Dragons on Disk 1 with Quinas Limit glove is easy levelling. During this you should just use steal with Zidane.
Freya's Dragon Crest does 9,999 every attack (killing Dragons to power up)
Zidane's Thievery does 9,999 every attack (use steal to power up)
Quina's Frog Drop does 9,999 every attack (catch frogs to power up). Not to mention limit glove been ridiculous early game, Lv5 death been really handy. Easily the strongest character in the game, and FF9s Blue Magic is most useful of all FF games from what I remember.
Eiko. Better White Mage than Garnet
No reason to use Vivi, elemental magic is not needed in this game when 3 characters have max damage non-elemental attacks that ignore all defence (OP much)....and very easy to power all 3 up while doing other tasks. With all the other abilities you get playing with those 4 makes the game crazy easy (even easier then it already was).
Hey DK, what would you say is the hardest boss in the whole series?
Lol no way the most useless character in the game is “Their” from ff1. Can’t even pick pocket
Nah, the black mage is way worse.
I've actually used 2 thieves in a party, they become awesome after evolving into ninjas :{) LOL
"Terra, Locke, and Celes." Someone never used the Cyan imp glitch. Cyan is the only character you need in the whole game.
Gogo not dope. It can use the combination of all the other character abilities combined. You have to equip them though. Gogo is perhaps one of the better characters.
Gogo is great because you can have him mimic someone like Celes after she casts Ultima twice. Which he can do for free. He's not as powerful, but you just put him in a party with powerful people.
Umaro is never useful. Unfortunately. Honestly, without the Imp glitch Cyan is probably the second most useless. He's just slow and his Swd Tech is also slow. He's bad a magic and because Stamina is bugged and Vigor really isn't that big a deal later on, Cyan just sucks. Which is too bad because he's one of my favorite actual characters in the game.
Umaro + Fanatics Tower, Nuff said.
It's not really character that are dope Magic is just extremely OP in FFVI you can beat nearly the entire game by just spamming magic, so by just equip espers that raise Magic and learn strong spell every characters except Umaro is awesome, their personnal skill for the most part completly pales in comparaison to magics.
Setzer offering + fixed dice
"You spoony Bard!" :)
you make a great point about how you can like the character Vincent and still think he is a crap fighter lol people seem to have a hard time learning that and distinguishing. you make great videos man :D
10. Never played, could judge.
09. I agree, though I have used him just because he is awesome. Team on this one was usually, Yuffie, Cid/Red 13/Vincent, Cloud.
08. Queena was my choice for most useless. I never used him. My team was usually Zidane, Eiko, Adamant/viv, Freya/steiner. I know, odd choice but thats what I went with. ^_^
07. I agree.
06. I agree, though he is one of my favorite characters outside of usefulness.
05. I agree. My team on this one was usually Quistis, Irvine/zell, Squall.
04. I agree
03. Never played. Cant judge.
02. Completely agree.
01. Never played. Couldn't judge.
Aerith should be on the top, you spent so much time grindin and than... oh you know!
@Heavy Metal Collector Yeah.. too bad you don't get half of those materia until after she dies.
@Heavy Metal Collector Can't replicate the Peerless/Invincibility status with anyone but Aerith
Her limits are broken af dude
@@trulyrandom2 . If you really want to waste time getting them, lol.
@@killerb255 . Do people normally grind to get those limits from her? I don't think so.
Haven't seen the video yet, but willing to bet Cait Sith from VII is here.
i guess dk got over ff 13-2
not really, it was just time for a little change.
9:17 I prefer Zell's Limit. By alternating Punch Rush and Booya, you can deal far more damage than Squall's Renzokuken with a little practise.
One more thing I find the yeti useful for is going up that magic tower. Him just pummeling the crap out of enemies speeds it up a bit for me. There's lots of ways to go about it but that's just how I do it these days.
Also, I didn't need to cheat for the Omega kill in 8. Just junction Ultima to selphie's luck and her slots become broken. Just summon eden and then slot away.. it doesn't take long at all at 255 luck. It was glorious!
We'll at least vincent valentine got he's own game *FF: dirge of cerberus. hahahha :D
But people says that his game sucks.
Yeah I played for 10 mins and was disappointed. Big letdown
Yeah and that game sucked...
I like the game. I can see why some people didn’t like it. However, the game’s story and potential was awesome! The FFVII would have more added to their series if the game didn’t received so many bad reviews.
Selphie beats everyone with no junctions needed. Great out of the wrapper.
Yep, as the video says, she can be quite good in the early game.
@@reloadpsi and a cheat stick in the late game. Can't beat it? Take a Selphie.
@@i-evi-l She's at her worst when you're trying to play the game "normally," which is really funny.
@@reloadpsi Naw. Just rapid cycle the slots, and throw ultimas until she can do The End. It's not like you have to get Lion Heart on disk one.
@@reloadpsi Yeah I thought the same for a long time until I hit getting stuck on low level, no card runs where limit spamming becomes a must. The game is free form enough that it doesn't matter. 😄
In my opinion garnet is more useless than vivi. i mean why you will need 2 white mages?. and eiko has more whites mages, meanwhile garnet only has more summons, but these summons make the same damage than a normal zidane's attack does.
Mayks Spark I always want two white mages.
I would consider Garnet more of a Summoner with White Mage capabilities and Eiko a White Mage with Summoner capabilities. The reason why I choose Eiko over Garnet in my final party is because I need the better White Mage. I don't really use Summons in Final Fantasy IX because I just find a majority of them to be useless... Summons were much more useful in FFVIII or FFX...
Deb Hawkins 2 low hp characters means twice the phoenix downs you gotta use to keep them alive.
Vincent seems like an odd pick. I beat the game using him on my first try because I hate the personalities and/or designs of Barret, Cait Sith, and Yuffie. Red XIII, Cloud, Tifa, and Vincent were my front runners for sure, in terms of designs and backstories
5:21 - FINAL FANTASY TACTICS! (tears of joy) it's so beautiful!