Wow. That's where the term "Tail gate" came from! So much to learn from your video's Dave. I am truly inspired, and know that someday I "will" use some of your of your ideas. Thanks for posting!!
That removable tailgate is the neatest thing since sliced bread. I sure do love seeing that poplar lumber. We never see it up here in British Columbia. In fact the forest service actually sprays the reforested logging blocks to kill it in favour of lodge pole pine. Asinine I know.
Really enjoyed observing this old technology in action, its the concept that counts. Documenting these old technologies is extremely important, I wish our government would see the gravity of historical documentation by funding. Many other countries do. THANKS4GIVING
Once again I am enthralled by the design and construction techniques and it's not until I reach for the like button, I realise I have watched this before...
What a wonderful experience watching you work, coming from a woodworker. I'd love to see this rig complete and ready for service, with team attached, canvass attached (and rolled up), and some trail equipment attached (h2o barrel, etc.), I.e. Accessorized. 👍😁Thanks.
Mr. Engles thanks for sharing your talent. My first concern is that you make this look way to easy! The next thing you know we all will think we can build wagons. If I may Sir, please make it look just a little more difficult! It is a good thing you are not close by! You sir would be running me out of your shop at least 3 time a day! Please keep the videos coming. Thanks you for your time! Beetle Bailey
It's great that all that iron can be reused. Makes it all look like a rebuild, not a replica. My favorite part so far has been watching you do all that riveting by hand. That's skill! Nicely done. And the attention to detail, not to mention the care to make sure everything is absolutely correct. It's a pleasure to watch. Thanks for sharing.
What a wonderful education on construction details and I received a new found understanding of what a high quality piece of equipment was manufactured by International. Thank you for posting these great videos, they are always of such high quality.
Excellent work!! I've built (re-built) the entire front end of a farm wagon before, including all the blacksmith work myself. It's not as easy as it looks. I plan to complete more wagon restoration once I finish building my new blacksmith shop on my ranch in Eastern Oregon. Although, I prefer just doing the blacksmith work......You are a master sir !!!
I would love to work on things like this. I love older pieces from days gone by. Made to last! Our society has become too "throw away." Not many items are built to last centuries.
And you do that fantastic. Thank you for keeping an old craft alive, just wish you had some 20/30 year old's interested enough to follow on working/learning with you.
Awesome work! I wish that I could hammer as fast as you! The front and back boards don't have the angle iron "seals". Do you suppose that's because they're so short & wouldn't flex as much as the side boards? Are the hinges in the back "gate" period correct? They look an awful lot like modern ones.
Always a fascinating watch. You said the end boards were missing... Did you make up all the hardware by looking up pictures of the original wagon, or did the customer save the iron bits? The hinges looked new, but I couldn't figure out if the grain release board at the back, if that hardware was original, or if you made it...
Correct me if I'm wrong but, on the rods, that tighten and strengthen the sides, aren't the "eyes" supposed to be all on one side? I've seen it both ways but, seen more done with the "eye" on one side front and back. Just curious, great video, looking forward to seeing part III. Cheers :)
This is totally new ground for me. I have never driven a coach like this, with a boot shaped like this. I'm used to formal broughams, landaus, Victorias, and vis-a-vis. What is the purpose of this style of boot? Is it just tougher for western terrain?
I found the back tailgate very interesting, such a clever design. Also, did you wax the screws for the hinges before you drove them, or what was that you rubbed them on?
Well I think life it's self is a learning curve so OK you have learned well. I think there are 2 reasons your videos are enjoyable to watch, at least for me. #1 your material, your profession of reconstructing these old wagons and their wheel etc I like most people thought this was a lost art, that nobody did this anymore. Making your videos a refreshing and informative look at the past and how things were done and not to mention very interesting. And #2 your narration of what you are doing is by far the best I've heard, You are calm, smooth, are clear in your mind what you are going to say because unlike most videos I've watched the host stammers and stutters because there mind is not focused on what they are doing or because they are multitasking. This to me makes their narration come across a little amateurish, a bit uncomfortable to listen to. I'm not saying they don't know their subject matter they defiantly do unlike your voice which is smooth, relaxed and easy listening. Thank you for making these videos.
What a great video. You sir are a master. Taking some old scrap iron and rotting timber and using the materials to turn into what is a brand new Wood Wheel Wagon. I enjoyed watching every inch of the 2 videos. Thank you sir, thank you. p.s. These wagons may have been made and used when I was a young lad, I am 73 years old now. Cheers.
Wagons used to be shipped across the continent as just the metalwork. Wagon kits, basically, just add local lumber. With just a small amount of training, any person with the gumption to Go West would have been able to learn how to assemble it, including the rivetting. And once they are set up, and can get a forge going, they can simply copy the parts to make the next one.
When you are restoring one of those old wagons, are you making detaileddrawings so that you could build a brand new on if required? and do you build brand new wagons at all after old modles and drawings
And yet more fun than the law will allow !!!!!! That's why they fine ya with tax. Another awesome video, I've built engines that were less interesting compared to your field of work.. The knowledge of what goes where is quite intriguing. That's why you are in charge. !!!!!!! Thanks again for your efforts.
Man you are a true craftsman. I'd love to work with you on one of those.... For free if you ever need a hand. I've been a carpenter for 30 yrs. I have one of those wagons that I'd like to rebuild.
Have enjoyed your show for years. My ears really perked up when you mentioned the name “Bobby Tanner” because I went to Bishop High School in the 50s, and had a coach named Bob Tanner (I think ‘Bob’, we always called him “Coach”). Your Bobby Tanner must be his son since I’m 80 years old. I can imagine how difficult it is to pursue your profession and still produce a weekly TH-cam show, but they are so educational as well as enjoyable it’d be nice to have a new show a couple of times a week, though I certainly don’t expect it. Thanks for all the shows you’ve put together, and I hope you have an incentive to keep producing them.
I am restoring my grandpa’s Weber wagon that he purchased new in 1908. I am wondering where I can get the type of box rivets that you use in this video. My online searches have not been fruitful. Thanks so much. Also enjoy your videos very much.
Those old grain wagons are really neat, did you know international bought three wagon companies in 1904 called Weber, Sterling, and Columbus and continued the names until 1907 when they started making pick up and other types of trucks and renamed the wagons to be international farm wagons and trucks in 1908.
Have you considered using some form of CNC, water jet, plasma, etc, to cut your flat stock? It seems there would be big labor savings. On the other hand, I understand your wanting to keep as much in house as you can. Being in control is a good thing. Great work and very good presentation style.
After shoveling out grain, the slots where the back gate goes will have grain in them. Would it be necessary to cut a relief of about 1-1/2" out of the bottom ends of the gate so there wouldn't be interference?
8:33 Most of the wagon is rivetted, but this piece is screwed on. Would this be because it is a cast piece, not forged, and thus is more likely to crack during rivetting?
Soy de Montevideo Uruguay... exelente trabajo es para mi un placer ver la excelencia en los trabajos y reparaciones... se nota que tuvo un excelente maestro ... Saludos desde uruguay..
Absolutely fascinating. My great uncle had a wagon like this that we used to haul sacks of grain, usually wheat or oats, to the mill as we were harvesting. Then during the winter we would use it for hauling small bales of hay from a remote barn for feeding in a pasture. When hauling hay the upper side boards were off thankfully. He had modified it to be pulled by a tractor at some point. It creaked and groaned in protest, but still served his needs for ten years or so.
Beautiful workmanship. I am curious, do you ever powder coat the iron instead of paint? I know it's not period, but will last many times longer than paint.
You can’t beat a sharpe pencil I wonder how many of us forget to sharpen ours and make it a sloppy fit. You have the fastest hammer in the West! Keep those videos coming your the best in the West!!, what patience.
I remember seeing this type of wagon on Minnesota farms used as grain or feed wagons without the conastoga top when I was a boy ! I’m 67 years old. Enjoying your craftmanship !
She sure is a beauty. It reminds me of the wagon that my father-in-law had on the farm. originally it was drawn by horses but he converted it so he could pull it with the John Deere B that he bought new in 39.
Rewatching again, was wondering how long it would have taken the old craftsman to make from start to finish without all our technology. Am totally fascinated by it all. And the thought process that went into it.
Very enjoyable watching it all rivet together. Thank you for not having annoying background music. it is much more fun just to listen to the sounds of the construction.
I thought he said the end boards were missing. How did he know what was there and the dimensions/shape/position of the iron work? Are there prints/plans available?
Beyond the incredible craftsmanship, is anyone else mesmerized by how easily his c-clamps function? I could watch this all day!
Wow.
That's where the term "Tail gate" came from! So much to learn from your video's Dave.
I am truly inspired, and know that someday I "will" use some of your of your ideas. Thanks for posting!!
That brings back memories from the wagon we had as a kid
Thanks for sharing
That removable tailgate is the neatest thing since sliced bread. I sure do love seeing that poplar lumber. We never see it up here in British Columbia. In fact the forest service actually sprays the reforested logging blocks to kill it in favour of lodge pole pine. Asinine I know.
Superb workmanship, detail to attention and craftsmanship. You are such a professional and teacher. Thank you so much for showing us how this is done.
Third time of watch this, great to see a master at work,look forward to Friday nights. My grandfather was a wheelright/blacksmith here in the UK
Wow. Just simply wow. thank you so much for taking the time to do this!
Clever gate arrangement.
Thanks for the video.
Really enjoyed observing this old technology in action, its the concept that counts. Documenting these old technologies is extremely important, I wish our government would see the gravity of historical documentation by funding. Many other countries do.
THANKS4GIVING
Agreed...
Here, in Argentina, Mr Engels would win a prize, at least.
Once again I am enthralled by the design and construction techniques and it's not until I reach for the like button, I realise I have watched this before...
What a wonderful experience watching you work, coming from a woodworker. I'd love to see this rig complete and ready for service, with team attached, canvass attached (and rolled up), and some trail equipment attached (h2o barrel, etc.), I.e. Accessorized. 👍😁Thanks.
Very interesting. Quality workmanship. Thanks for posting the video.
Fanisating, enjoy watching a true craftsman.
I can't wait for each wonderful upload! Thankyou!!! 😃👍
Watching this is hypnotic.!
Master Craftsman = Much LOVE;. Felt as if i were building with Dominique as 40 years ago
ماتقوم به من اعمال جميله ورائعه فعلا وانت متمكن جدا من عملك . لقد استمتعنا بالمشاهده . شكرا لك
Beautiful work ECS
So much Knowledge, Fantastic
Presente: Cordial Saludo; Desde. Zapopan, Jalisco, Mx. Siempre Pendiente.
Mr. Engles thanks for sharing your talent. My first concern is that you make this look way to easy! The next thing you know we all will think we can build wagons. If I may Sir, please make it look just a little more difficult! It is a good thing you are not close by! You sir would be running me out of your shop at least 3 time a day! Please keep the videos coming. Thanks you for your time! Beetle Bailey
I was about to push the furniture in the living room one side, but realized, the tools, I don't have it!
@@EngelsCoachShop Your editing is the best I've seen on u-tube! Thankyou for a great experience each day.
@@EngelsCoachShop Yeah, right. Don't see any paint covering misteaks (sic) either.
Nice table saw! I'm jealous!
beautiful simply beautiful
bonjour! depuis le temps que je cherchais une vidéo sur ces wagons. excellent. je ne saisis pas anglo-saxon mais très bon tout de même
It is an absolute thrill watching you work! I am impressed by your skills!
Thanks for sharing what you do with us!
Always impressive
Amazing craftsmanship, please tell me someone is learning from you!
A pleasure as always keep it up.....
It's great that all that iron can be reused. Makes it all look like a rebuild, not a replica. My favorite part so far has been watching you do all that riveting by hand. That's skill! Nicely done. And the attention to detail, not to mention the care to make sure everything is absolutely correct. It's a pleasure to watch. Thanks for sharing.
What a wonderful education on construction details and I received a new found understanding of what a high quality piece of equipment was manufactured by International. Thank you for posting these great videos, they are always of such high quality.
I'm waiting for the Studebaker.
Excellent work!! I've built (re-built) the entire front end of a farm wagon before, including all the blacksmith work myself. It's not as easy as it looks. I plan to complete more wagon restoration once I finish building my new blacksmith shop on my ranch in Eastern Oregon. Although, I prefer just doing the blacksmith work......You are a master sir !!!
I was kind of disappointed that you didn't hand forge the hinges on the tailgate... LOL... just kidding. :-) great job!
Hands down your definitely one of the best Craftsmen on the internet!!!!!
Hmm, hands down = thumbs up. English - it's a funny old language.
I would love to work on things like this. I love older pieces from days gone by. Made to last! Our society has become too "throw away." Not many items are built to last centuries.
What was their thinking on using rivets or screws or nails. Seems like in a lot of places they were doing the same thing. Awesome craftsmanship.
And you do that fantastic. Thank you for keeping an old craft alive, just wish you had some 20/30 year old's interested enough to follow on working/learning with you.
Awesome work! I wish that I could hammer as fast as you!
The front and back boards don't have the angle iron "seals". Do you suppose that's because they're so short & wouldn't flex as much as the side boards?
Are the hinges in the back "gate" period correct? They look an awful lot like modern ones.
Always a fascinating watch.
You said the end boards were missing... Did you make up all the hardware by looking up pictures of the original wagon, or did the customer save the iron bits? The hinges looked new, but I couldn't figure out if the grain release board at the back, if that hardware was original, or if you made it...
Master piece by a true master I have a 1800s one need the wheels done how much would it cost more or less
Correct me if I'm wrong but, on the rods, that tighten and strengthen the sides, aren't the "eyes" supposed to be all on one side? I've seen it both ways but, seen more done with the "eye" on one side front and back. Just curious, great video, looking forward to seeing part III. Cheers :)
muy buen trabajo. felicitaciones!
even screwing by hand!! Dear Sir, I think that everyone will forgive you if you use electric tool for that!! once again, brilliant work !
This is totally new ground for me. I have never driven a coach like this, with a boot shaped like this. I'm used to formal broughams, landaus, Victorias, and vis-a-vis. What is the purpose of this style of boot? Is it just tougher for western terrain?
I wish somebody gives Mr Engels a medal for preserving this old cultural treasure!!
Amazing Craftsman❣❣❣❣
Fascinating. Never imagined there was so much metal hardware on a wooden wagon.
so by rebuild, you mean just reuse all the metal scrap?
I found the back tailgate very interesting, such a clever design. Also, did you wax the screws for the hinges before you drove them, or what was that you rubbed them on?
@@EngelsCoachShop
Bee's Wax, the anti-seize / anti- corrosion of yesteryear.
Wonder why there is not iron on the bottom side of the sideboards and gates...those surfaces wear as well, yes?
I really do enjoy watching these videos. You do a great job of rebuilding these wagons but also your work creating these videos is fabulous!
Well I think life it's self is a learning curve so OK you have learned well. I think there are 2 reasons your videos are enjoyable to watch, at least for me. #1 your material, your profession of reconstructing these old wagons and their wheel etc I like most people thought this was a lost art, that nobody did this anymore. Making your videos a refreshing and informative look at the past and how things were done and not to mention very interesting. And #2 your narration of what you are doing is by far the best I've heard, You are calm, smooth, are clear in your mind what you are going to say because unlike most videos I've watched the host stammers and stutters because there mind is not focused on what they are doing or because they are multitasking. This to me makes their narration come across a little amateurish, a bit uncomfortable to listen to. I'm not saying they don't know their subject matter they defiantly do unlike your voice which is smooth, relaxed and easy listening. Thank you for making these videos.
Would they have used Poplar to build the original ?
What a great video. You sir are a master. Taking some old scrap iron and rotting timber and using the materials to turn into what is a brand new Wood Wheel Wagon. I enjoyed watching every inch of the 2 videos. Thank you sir, thank you. p.s. These wagons may have been made and used when I was a young lad, I am 73 years old now. Cheers.
Is there a reason that you sand blasted and painted the hardware, but you didn't paint the wood before mounting anything? ?
Cliff notes version. Strip iron, sand blast iron, paint iron, build wagon around iron. 8^)
Wagons used to be shipped across the continent as just the metalwork. Wagon kits, basically, just add local lumber. With just a small amount of training, any person with the gumption to Go West would have been able to learn how to assemble it, including the rivetting. And once they are set up, and can get a forge going, they can simply copy the parts to make the next one.
When you are restoring one of those old wagons, are you making detaileddrawings so that you could build a brand new on if required? and do you build brand new wagons at all after old modles and drawings
My point was also in the interest of preserving the different designs and models for the future
And yet more fun than the law will allow !!!!!!
That's why they fine ya with tax. Another awesome video, I've built engines that were less interesting compared to your field of work.. The knowledge of what goes where is quite intriguing. That's why you are in charge. !!!!!!! Thanks again for your efforts.
Man you are a true craftsman. I'd love to work with you on one of those.... For free if you ever need a hand. I've been a carpenter for 30 yrs. I have one of those wagons that I'd like to rebuild.
thank you sir can you tell me why you used poplar wood fro the sides
Beautiful art work, but watch out when rolling for arrows and Cherokee...(just kidding...kkk)
When I die I want you to build my coffin oh, don't forget to built it with a tailgate door just in case.
But don't forget to charge extra. haha
I have a dumb question. Is this what was called the "Conestoga"?
Did you have a lot of pitting on the steel to deal with?
Have enjoyed your show for years. My ears really perked up when you mentioned the name “Bobby Tanner” because I went to Bishop High School in the 50s, and had a coach named Bob Tanner (I think ‘Bob’, we always called him “Coach”). Your Bobby Tanner must be his son since I’m 80 years old.
I can imagine how difficult it is to pursue your profession and still produce a weekly TH-cam show, but they are so educational as well as enjoyable it’d be nice to have a new show a couple of times a week, though I certainly don’t expect it. Thanks for all the shows you’ve put together, and I hope you have an incentive to keep producing them.
I am restoring my grandpa’s Weber wagon that he purchased new in 1908. I am wondering where I can get the type of box rivets that you use in this video. My online searches have not been fruitful. Thanks so much. Also enjoy your videos very much.
Those old grain wagons are really neat, did you know international bought three wagon companies in 1904 called Weber, Sterling, and Columbus and continued the names until 1907 when they started making pick up and other types of trucks and renamed the wagons to be international farm wagons and trucks in 1908.
Have you considered using some form of CNC, water jet, plasma, etc, to cut your flat stock? It seems there would be big labor savings. On the other hand, I understand your wanting to keep as much in house as you can. Being in control is a good thing.
Great work and very good presentation style.
Can't wait for the next one
Really super project, thanks for sharing! :-)
Bravo Bravo Respekt 😍😍✌
I've never seen a table saw where the table moves like a sled. That is cool!
just for your informaton,it takes 875 shovels of wheat to fill that box,,,,,,,,,,,,,done it a few times,
After shoveling out grain, the slots where the back gate goes will have grain in them. Would it be necessary to cut a relief of about 1-1/2" out of the bottom ends of the gate so there wouldn't be interference?
Do parts drawings for your projects exist?
Also do you know how the original angle iron was manufactured?
8:33 Most of the wagon is rivetted, but this piece is screwed on. Would this be because it is a cast piece, not forged, and thus is more likely to crack during rivetting?
Just wondering why you're using poplar for this project? It's not really a very good choice for an exterior wood
Soy de Montevideo Uruguay... exelente trabajo es para mi un placer ver la excelencia en los trabajos y reparaciones... se nota que tuvo un excelente maestro ... Saludos desde uruguay..
Here in the UK we call the extension boards on bulk tippers, Greedy boards.
Why not use an air hammer for all that riveting?. They have been around for 150 years.
Very nice!
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Why is poplar used on the wagon body not a very weather resistant wood! the Wagon is looking good!
Unbelievable great coach work, thank you
Ten thumbs up are not enough for this fellow!! Who is doing the thumbs down?
Why do you insert the rivets from different sides on the end cleats on the top board at 5:24 min. ?
Dead-eye Dave and his plumb-level-square drilling... a joy to watch!
I've watched his drilling boards, and cant believe his machine like accuracy, Everytime!!!
Wonderful work! Thank you 🙏🏻
Those irons look great! Are they quenched in oil, or painted?
Just found your channel. This is the awesome thing about TH-cam - getting to see a real craftsman practicing "lost" skills. A+ ...and thanks!
Wow!
Absolutely fascinating. My great uncle had a wagon like this that we used to haul sacks of grain, usually wheat or oats, to the mill as we were harvesting. Then during the winter we would use it for hauling small bales of hay from a remote barn for feeding in a pasture. When hauling hay the upper side boards were off thankfully. He had modified it to be pulled by a tractor at some point. It creaked and groaned in protest, but still served his needs for ten years or so.
What did it cost to rebuild That grain wagon ? Thank you 👍😎
Beautiful workmanship. I am curious, do you ever powder coat the iron instead of paint? I know it's not period, but will last many times longer than paint.
You can’t beat a sharpe pencil I wonder how many of us forget to sharpen ours and make it a sloppy fit. You have the fastest hammer in the West! Keep those videos coming your the best in the West!!, what patience.
I remember seeing this type of wagon on Minnesota farms used as grain or feed wagons without the conastoga top when I was a boy ! I’m 67 years old. Enjoying your craftmanship !
She sure is a beauty. It reminds me of the wagon that my father-in-law had on the farm. originally it was drawn by horses but he converted it so he could pull it with the John Deere B that he bought new in 39.
Rewatching again, was wondering how long it would have taken the old craftsman to make from start to finish without all our technology. Am totally fascinated by it all. And the thought process that went into it.
Very enjoyable watching it all rivet together. Thank you for not having annoying background music. it is much more fun just to listen to the sounds of the construction.
I kinda think that wagon didn't operate that smoothly when it was new.
Watching your expertise on rebuilding this wagon has truly been a pleasure thank you very much.
Wenn möglich wird altes Material wiederverwendet.....das ist Nachhaltigkeit...
I thought he said the end boards were missing. How did he know what was there and the dimensions/shape/position of the iron work? Are there prints/plans available?
This guy hammers better than the energizer bunny keeps going.
Superbe.