The Luminary Shoppe Becomes History | Engels Coach Shop
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- Rick of The Luminary Shoppe has decided to retire and has agreed to place some of his lamps and equipment into the gift store we are remodeling, so he will remain a part of Joliet's history. So we're taking a quick tour through his shop and will show the progress on the gift store. Thanks for coming along!
Check out his videos at The Luminary Shoppe here on TH-cam
/ @theluminaryshoppe
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I was always a real pleasure watching Rick building, repairing and restoring those beautiful lamps. A real shame he won't be doing any more but he certainly has earned, and deserves, a happy retirement. Thanks Rick, for many happy memories. And as someone else mentioned here, Dave and Rick, a pair of real craftsmen.
It is sad that a young man wasn't interested in learning the trade from him.
Two national treasures!
Your comment is sure on point. Hard to believe that two restoration craftsmen of the most skilled level could be found in a small Town in Montana.
I enjoyed the Luminary Shoppe videos. Thanks to Rick.
A true professional , both of you
The idea of a manure spreader in an Ice Cream Parlor only works when it was restored by Dave.
Yup - kinda funny !
They are literally referred to as "Honey Wagons" or "Honigwagens" in Germany and they smell *Sweet when you follow one down a 2-lane road with a lot of twists and turns you can't pass on.
@@richardclifton4120sweet?....lol ok!
@@alhart6126 Farmers know it means fertilized fields, so yes they call it "Sweet Honey". I lived near Augsburg and it is full of those things roaming the roads Just before planting begins.
Try an Ice Cream Spreader in a Manure Shop?
Interesting, but sad.
What is truly sad is that so much of this present day has no home for what has been.
It is to each of us to create that place. For without, we ourselves come adrift.
Please think of what this means.
@@Richard-rz8gt It has no place because there's hardly anything that can be done about it in the world we live. Bernard London's teachings have destroyed the world we live in and ... quality and quality of things. C'est la vie.
To you and Rick, we are in a different era where computers have taken over. I am completely different than you fellows, millwright. I have tried to pass on the knowledge I have accumulated but people don't want to work with their hands anymore, very sad. I guess when they wake up and discover that a computer can't do what we do, they will wonder why we didn't teach them, very sad state of affairs.
My grandfather was a millwright at western electric for many years. He taught me quite a bit.
Thanks Rick. Watched all your videos. Skill and patience was extraordinary. Enjoy your retirement.
Just a thought, perhaps a modest tv screen could be put in the display showing some of his videos so people will understand the context of the display.
Excellent idea.
Or use some of the low cost display tablets that are everywhere these days, for the spinning lathe you could have a couple videos playing showing the process mounted right next to the lathe. Simple touch screen to play/pause/stop.
For anyone that hasn't seen Rick's videos, I HIGHLY recommend you go take a look. Rick is truly a mastersmith on carriage lamps, and it's just extremely interesting to see. I learned quite a bit from them that I still use to make signs. Rick, sorry to see you go but I'm truly grateful you shared it with us. So guys, go take a look!
such a shame you guys never found apprentices to train. most young people today don't want to work for the years it takes to learn a complex trade at a salary that would work for your budgets. seems they want a "position" that has quick rise to a high salary and a short learning curve. they end up in the tech field or working for government.
I think it's such a shame when guys like this retire or pass away the amount of knowledge that goes with them never to return is very sad.
I agree, but I also wonder how much demand there will be for the knowledge and skills that Dave and Rick possess. Honest to God, I thought the manure spreader would be used upon it's completion. Silly me. I don't know if anyone could earn a decent living starting out in these businesses today. I think Dave had kids. I don't know about Rick. Point is, even their own families don't want to continue the tradition....
The same Problem worldwide 😮@@Mmmyess
two great craftsmen, God bestowed great knowledge to you both. Happy Retirement, sir.
I give you a lot of credit for what you are taking on Dave,l wish you a successful journey and I will continue my subscription and continue to watch your journey, thanks for all the content 🤗😎🤗😎
Thank you for watching.
The Same Greetings from the Swabian Mountains in Germany 👋
@@Buddha-eb5yl Thank you
And also from central Pennsylvania. Your videos are always informative and enjoyable.
@@jerrygillette854 Thank you
As a 73 year old retired Architect, I totally relate to the feelings of a seasoned professional at the end of a long career. All that experience and knowledge to cease being used. Its melancholy
My sister is an old-school architect. When the power goes out, she's the only one in the office who knows how to do blueprints with paper and pencil. Everyone else is lost without AutoCAD.
I'm a retired merchant mariner. I spent the last part of my career working for the Washington state ferry system. I found that most young people don't seem to want to learn from older people. They seem convinced that they know everything already. I tried to create some interest in basic knot tying but the so called sailors had zero interest, after all, they can make up their own knots on the spot. Now, those aren't actually knots of course but then they will never know the difference. Yes, as you can plainly see, I resent it.
This is a special skill, very few people could do this.
Rick and Dave shop at the same haberdashery.
It is going to be a great display. I enjoyed his channel while it lasted. Thanks.
Great to have a tour of the Luminary shop and explaining machines in more detail. Pleasantly surprised to see the Canada flag on back of his hat.! I have watched his channel and the quality of workmanship was of course second to none. Hopefully the lamps on the shelves will be cherished somewhere also. Happy retirement Rick and hopefully we will see you pop into the Engels Coach Shop on occasion.
It's sad to see what was a forgotten skill fade into history.At least we have His videos as a record of his skill.Wishing him an enjoyable retirement .
I enjoyed watching all Rick's vids at the Luminary Shoppe and seeing his meticulous craftsmanship. Glad they are preserved on TH-cam.
I don't do anything like this but I can't find people locally that want to do my level of woodworking I guess people expect things to be done fast and don't like the long-term effort.
Do the good folk of Joliet get together on weekends and do brain surgery for fun? LOL There's talent falling out of ya'lls pockets up there. I'm gonna zip up there and get me some of that water!
The last video I saw of Rick's was about 2 years ago. Sad to hear he is retiring, hopefully his knowledge and equipment is not lost.
Within the first 5 minutes of the video, one can see the thought that has gone into this building.
Rick's shop is amazing in that so many people want his products that he could make a living.
Similar problem in the aviation industry with radial engines - specialized machines are being scrapped. Much of the brain trust is dying off. Dad always lamented that no one wanted someone with the skills to run a multi horse rig for a wagon. What spins our props the younger folks go "meh", they have their own joys. Oh well.
Young "mechanics" don't know how to adjust a carburetor. Yikes!
Happy Friday Dave!
It strikes me that we are living in an upside down world today.
Im in an area that they have outlawed plastic grocery bags but if I want to replace the switch on an otherwise perfectly good Dewalt drill , they price the switch at 10 dollars less then a brand new drill. So what choice do you have but to dispose of the drill entirely. This is just a small example of a larger trend that makes little sense to me. Emotions run high regarding conservation yet we have created a throw away culture.
there is one thing that is consistent about it, it hurts the customer
Sad to seee the Luminary Shoppe come to an end. Remarkable craftsmanship.
The world is heading into dark times we are losing so many old trades years and years of Knowledge and experience that in no way can ever be regained .
I am gobsmacked twice a week watching and trying to absorb a little bit of the skills that you use daily and don’t think about. Then to watch you be amazed and listen/want to learn. I thought I was humble. Watching you listen to Rick makes me know how much I need to grow up to be humble!!
Thank you and Rick for being markers to judge myself against. The one thing that I think I know is that those who are good marker’s aren’t aware of that truth!
You are a goal post!
I believe you just exposed the marker you compare yourself to.
I don’t go to Las Vegas, but if I did, I would bet that both you and Rick are trying to be like your Father in law.
I would bet my inheritance that he was satisfied in the 70s with his Son and Son in law. The fact that both of you are retirement age and only soft quitting, no wonder he has been smiling for >40/years. Kudos to your family.
Thank you for the lessons taught.
It's really sad that no one wants to continue on with the business. I would have loved to have worked along side him to learn the trade. It's a real shame that all this knowledge will now be lost.
Wow! Rick was wearing a hat with a Canadian flag on the back.
A huge loss to see his time come to an end as such a fantastic artisan.
Thanks from England.
Oh look, twins!
Luminary Shop was a favorite! You both have skills some can only imagine! Wonder if places like Sturbridge Village in Massachusetts would be interested?
Rick, if you are listening, take some advice from one who knows, don’t sit around and get dormant, you won’t last too long! Stay busy! Redirect your talents to something new, something you have wanted to do for awhile. You think now that you are retired you can sleep late, watch TV take naps etc.,but at least take walks and be active! It’s been shown retirees don’t live nearly as long as those who are still up and doing things every day! I’m sure you will slow down some, that’s to expected, just don’t stop. Enough of my ranting. I get you need to retire and shut your shop down, but you will be missed. When you do the kind of work you and Dave and a handful of others do and no one to carry on what you do after you’re gone, it hurts to know no one is gonna continue your work.thank you for your work!
Another friend of mine retired as a leather worker in Montana. He looked for years to apprentice someone who he would give the whole business to, but no commited heart came forward. The age of the craftmen is alomost gone. I built custom log homes as my art, n today no one is interested..
Oh! Log homes? Where do I sign up? 😢Man, I missed out on knowing you. alHart. A 14x26 log cabin is an ideal work of art. I lived in one built in the 1920’s, and had a tiny view of Lake Tahoe. But they evicted me and tore it down in the 70’s for a new motel. I’m in my 70’s now, so I understand. No interest in the use of hands.
Like the video, kind of sad.
I'm a retired carpenter and worked with a partner who was a third generation carpenter. Together, we had 80ish years of carpenter experience. We looked for one or two people to apprentice under us so we could pass on knowledge and teach skills. Over the years we had only one young man want to learn, but he only stayed for one summer. I am more of a framing carpenter with plumbing, roofing and siding certifications as well as business and project management. My partner was more of a finish carpenter with flooring, electrical and code enforcement experience so our skill sets offset to make us a very well rounded construction company. So much trade skill and knowledge is being lost at a very fast pace, it's a sad world we live in.
Well, I always enjoyed watching Rick working on lamps. Hope he enjoys retirement. 😅
I understand completely the emotion of closing down a business that ends an era. My Dad spent 69 years as a radio and later radio and TV repairman in a small town in NW Iowa. He was known as a man that could repair anything electronic. He never retired and went to work at 90 years old on the last day of his life. When we cleared out his shop I felt horrible watching a lifetime of equipment and experience vanish. Like Rick, no one wanted the business. The auctioneer that specialized in closing electronic business said, "you Dad was one of less than a dozen repairmen in the US that had a full time repair shop, and we'll not see anyone take over to run a shop like that again." So the emotion in those last minutes of this video tug at my heart as I know how that feels. Good luck to Rick and we look forward to seeing the shop you are working on, perhaps next year when we travel to Philipsburg, MT to visit out sons.
A very rare breed...RIP dad,
5:58 rick is going to work at engles coach? He's got the uniform on . ❤❤❤❤😂
Thanks for again casting light on the coach lamp days. Now it is time to pass from this season of production into the days of history!
Another chapter in the good old days disappearing. Enjoyed seeing the Luminary Shoppe equipment. Thank you Dave for inviting me along. God Bless you and Mrs. Engels.
Another Lost Art. The knowledge and Experience is Immense. Levels above 'Craftsman'
I hope that Wall treatment is light coloured to brighten the new place somewhat. You have so many irons in the Fire! Nice Shirts guys.
Hopefully someone will get the idea to pick up the skills. I thought of Rick when visiting Ivy Green. Hellen Keller's home in Alabama. They had used carriage lamps at the door of the house. (They were pretty much bird nests by this point)
As you likely know, there is a huge amount of disposable cash in the country. The trick is tapping into it.
May I suggest yachts. Owners not necessarily 'rich' but looking for that particular flair. And willing to pay for that unique item.
As I watch this video of two men discussing their respective trades, I am struck with the notion that an even more recent technology is suffering the pangs of being outdated.
I mean aviation. For every success story, there is a thousand who tried but did jot achieve their goals. However, like the two trades discussed here, there are pockets of them who have held on, scratching out an existence by tooth and claw.
Maybe this sounds too esoteric to most. But consider the finish carpenter who took pride in that he had over 200 planes for fashioning every type of trim.
It is a sad commentary of present day that even recent technology and its history has become unmoored.
Enjoyed Rick’s shows, but totally understand the appeal of retirement. I retired in 2020 after 41 years service as a welder for the railroad. Rick loved what he did, and that makes it hard to walk away, but at some point we all have to say enough is enough!
Thanks Dave, many of us have enjoyed Ricks channel and his display of his many talents and knowledge relating to his trade. Most of these skills and many others will be lost to time which is unavoidable albeit sad as well. Being able to display some of the equipment and tools to restore these lamps is and will be appreciated in the days to come. Very sadly nothing lasts for ever but thank you so much for doing your bit to extend the opportunity for everyone who can to visit and enjoy. Well done Dave
Great vid Dave. Very touching. Hard to see his and your skills disappearing. It's a privilege to get to see you doing the
things you do every day. Once again, thanks.
Sad that there isn't anyone willing to develop the unique skill sets that Rick had in restoring the carriage lamps, but his legacy will live on in those lamps he has restored and in that future display in the gift shop. Best of Luck to Rick and Pat as they prepare for the next stage of retirement.
Made us sad some, but it will be a great display. We plan on visiting it and you again next summer. Thank you. Burch and Linda
You have such a beautiful collection of historic buildings, Mr. Engel. I love them all.
Happy retirement, Mr. Rick! Thanks for sharing, Mr. Dave!
When both of you gentlemen are gone, so is the artistry of your unique trades. Very sad but reality.
Those are Some pretty cool Machines that Takes knowledge to use!
both dressed the very same...lol..old timey stuff right here...
Du bist hier der Außenseiter nicht die beiden😊
E' triste,ma è così anche da noi in Italia!Ciao Dave!
Best Lamp Man in the entire World enjoy your retirement.
Well deserved Rick, enjoy your retirement.
Greetings from Germany... What a shame that a young individual did not take interest. After 2-5 years of appertains along with welding/sheet metal working and possibly furniture carpentry experience a young person could make a living by taking over and running this shop. Sad what modern times and attitude(s) has brought us to.
Thanks Rick for sharing life & art.
As a lover of things historical, I’m going to correct you on your use of the word “Wainscoat”. The word is pronounced as it is spelt; Wainscot. Wainscot is a Baltic word for their native Oak. Much of this oak was imported into England for use as interior paneling because of its superior workability to the native English oak. So much of it was used that the paneling eventually took the name of the timber it was made from. Reference; Woods in British Furniture Making 1400-1900. An Illustrated Pictorial Dictionary. (Available on Amazon).
I hope you enjoys retirement he earned it
Rick made soldering glass look easy.
I've got a lump in my throat.
Shame some junk people kitten pick you up on stuff like this and I know a lot of things that I’ve done in my lifetime and they can’t be done now because he nobody work I can do it they don’t understand what people are doing
It's a great shame that skills like this are lost due to either lack of interest or lack of skill .Happy retirement Rick!
wow, made it here! ice cream
Hi there, I have a question and I’m hoping you can help me. I have a set of bent gouges that need to be sharpened but I need to be shown how to do this. Could you perhaps do a demonstration of this to help me. I’ve been watching you for a few years now so if anyone knows it would be you😊.
Thanks
Kim🇨🇦🍁
It's a sad day when shops like this close and nobody's interested in taken it over .
At least its going to be put in a museum so not gone and forgotten.
It's so sad that both Dave & Rick have so much knowledge and experience that will be lost when they retire.
I am very glad that they have chosen to share a portion of it with the world through modern technology.
While I cannot physically do these tasks I do save the videos to...hopefully...retain them for future use by others that can actually do them.
Yeah, I'm sorry to see it go. When my old partner and I sold our original shop property. I bought up a lot of the tools and equipment and started my own much smaller motorcycle shop. My thoughts were to hand it down to my son in law. As time went by, I did just that and helped him along as much as I could. Well he just didn't have the patience to try and build his own business so it eventually failed. The next closest "motorcycles shop" was 30 miles away, when we closed ours down. The next closest motorcycle mechanic probably much further. Everything else is just motorcycle "techs" who don't know how to repair parts, they only know to change out the parts that a computer tells them to. Another dying trade. Since it's all been filmed and logged onto the internet, it's not lost, it's just logged into the books of history as accurately as can be.
Thanks for sharing!
I am not sure how to react to Rick retiring because I liked how he did his work and explained it. I retired in 2013 so I applaud him for that; you too when you decide. I still will miss both of you showing what you(plural) can do and explaining it. Both of you, have many enjoyable years to come. I am 77 as of 11/30/23.
I have a great shop but no one to pass it on to also. Much of what I do is one of a kind, unique and fun. Never was a business - just enjoyable to make things. It will be very said to let it all go at some point but that is life. We can hope that someday the trades will make a comeback but for now it’s rather bleak. Thanks to both of you for sharing your skills and recording them!
All throughout this Vlog one can feel a calm but undoubtedly sadness A craft passes away, also the mutual respect towards each other is bittersweet in someways. Hopefully Mr Engels plans to continue hir craftsmanship. Very impressive vlog. Best regards, Albert 🇳🇱
Thanks for sharing with us Dave and Rick. Enjoy your retirement Rick and stay safe . Stay safe around there Dave and continue with your plans for your life in Joliet and the businesses you'll have to show the History made in Joliet. Keep up the great videos and the fun you have around there. Fred.
I really miss watching your friend's luminary shop videos. Most excellent workmanship!!! 😀👍🏻
Takes me back to the workshop days. Such a shame that this skill will be lost.
Gone but not forgotten
Actually when in beddy bye bye last night watching vegetables take over world movie..I remembered how u mention luminary shop closing down..now folks hav to go second best for a lantern.🥕
Best wishes Rick, I enjoyed your channel immensely. It's sad to see you close up. I just hope your beautiful lamps and machinery will be safe guarded from sticky ice cream fingers.
What a sad thing to think that this skill will be lost. This is what young folks think their cell phone skills are vastly superior to. This not only effects those folks who still want to fiddle with horses and carriages, it also effects the antique car enthusiasts. Beauty just isn't appreciated anymore. The fellow I worked for back in the day had something like 30 pairs of carriage lamps, and I was polishing those every week and putting them on whatever carriage we were using for weddings that weekend. I only ever had to use them once. We did one night wedding in the two years I worked for him. It was about this time of year and pouring rain, and that was when I realized how very little light those actually put out.
Rick, congratulations on your retirement, 41 years of beautiful luminary craftsmanship, but like they say a chapter closes and another one opens. I retired about a year ago now im a gym rat, wish i lived in Montana to take over your legacy. God bless you and your family. Stay active
Well just think of it this way:
As long as TH-cam survives then you and Rick will be immortal.
That is quite the legacy.
Bravo to you two for your effort in this matter.
Very cool but what's with the matching hat, shirt, pants and even the belt? You guys could have been casted in the movie "Shawshank". Never knew he had a channel.
We have gone from quality to...there is no English antonym, isn't that interesting. Today we pass along Plastic and Sawdust as our gift to the future, bon appetit.
Dave, well done for helping to revitalise your town..
We could do with a man like you here in our little town of Spilsby, Lincolnshire, UK.
It's a shame non of today's kids or young adults would want to take on a traditional trade like the lamps repair or the coach work. When I got out of HS I wanted to do something similar but living in Sacramento there were no old trades going on to get into and I didn't have the means to relocate. Of course that was more than 50 years ago. Side note: I have the same pan and block brake.
Over the decades I have seen so many specialty shops close that was so much needed in the past. Shoe repair, watch repair, small appliance repair and such, And I almost forgot the battery rebuild shops, radiator repair, and Generator repair shops. I'm sad to see the old ways end.
It's really sad that Rick is retiring without having someone to train to continue his craftsmanship. It is really sad to see all these getting out. Perhaps it is our fault we let youngsters stuck in computers only. Wish we were able to bring youngsters to follow our steps. But, that's life.
Well, I got misty at the end of Rick's segment. Thanks much, and enjoy your retirement. Thanks for sharing.
Too bad he couldn't find a youngster who wanted to become an apprentice and learn the trade with the idea of taking over the business. It makes me wish I was about 20 years old. I would love to learn a trade like that and keep it going. But at my age, it wouldn't go on very long.
I had no idea what it took to repair and restore these old lamps. didn't even think it could be done and now it can't be. I followed Rick and enjoyed watching him work but now I wish him well in retirement. It is going to happen to all of these old trades someday.
Cheers to both,
Lee
That old Nier cold blast and Dietz Hy-Lo in the background are more my style of lamps to refinish. It is nice to see how skilled the craftsmen are.
Kinda sad to see Rick closing his shop but I fully understand his reasons. I enjoyed watching Rick show us his trade and skills. Those final lamps are stunning. I hope the museum is a big hit in the area.
Will the inventory not going on display be for sale? If yes, how to get?
That is yet to be determined. Some of it will be, but we haven't decided how it will all work.
The potential exists for a mural. Rutgers once had a museum of agriculture with horse powered equipment and big murals but it closed years ago as far as I can tell.
Great homage and send off for Rick, Dave! Great video as usual. Question: You two shop at the same clothing store??
So interesting.