@@The3Muslims bro I kid u not I stayed up all night because I got so gassed seeing sheikh uthman and u guys with sneako. Look forward to seeing that again
Simple logic for des t r o ying Christianity is if they believe in Trinity and God Nauzubillah can't be separated from it then before Jesus Christ PBUH was born how did Trinity work then? Was God and holy Ghost sufficient to sustain themselves? If that is the case why can't they believe that God can be One and not be dependent.
@@The3Muslims Who created Logic??? Either God is all-powerful and He is lord over logic or not. God can operate within or outside the laws of both logic and nature if it so pleases Him. That's like saying Allah isn't omnipotent because he appeared to Moses in the form of a burning bush and not in his spirit form.
Dude you need to watch real Christian apologists. Islam is so obviously false it’s ridiculous. Muhammad was a warlord pedo who was born 600 years after Christ. That’s like trusting me to tell you about George Washington (who lived not even 300yrs ago) instead of reading first hand accounts of people that knew him.
@@kairos_fluent The first church fathers admitted to the bible having words added to it. There’s no Christian scholar that can logically answer to the many many contradictions in the bible
I Reverted to Islam at 12:30 AM on Saturday. Videos like these just make me even more content in my "decision" although it wasnt a decision, it was a realisation while reading Muhammad's prophecies. I had to revert. I had no choice. Im a white Scottish male, from the Highlands of all places. This wont be easy. But i have no choice.
Being a muslim is about living life for having the chance to meet Allah one day in the hereafter , do an experiment and try to wake up for the dawn prayer one day and just prostate and talk to Allah and see how it feels . the most amazing feeling ever
@@Electricc__ Faculties of intellect, logic, and reasoning, weren't given to us in vain. It's always good to remember: *Emotions. Obscures. Logic.* th-cam.com/video/t86nTHTHcU8/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/1K8OT_xrlgE/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/J_Dllu42eEA/w-d-xo.html You may find the subject matter in the links I've shared interesting. Perhaps it would shed some light onto why we (as Muslims) find it impossible for our preserved scripture (the Holy Qur'an) to be something written by an unlettered (illiterate) Bedouin living in the 7th century Arabian desert. Perhaps it would shed some light as to why we (as Muslims) wholeheartedly believe that our Holy Scripture is indeed, the Final Testament (Final Revelation) conveyed through an unlettered Bedouin, whom God The Most Wise had chosen as His final Prophet and final Messenger unto mankind. Hope all is well your side.. Salaam to you and your family sis'/bro'✌🏼 from Cape Town, South Africa 🇿🇦
He keeps saying that you guys were breaking the "second commandment" by saying that the Trinity doesn't make any logical sense and it contradicts the bible but he's forgetting that he himself is breaking the first commandment by saying God exists in three parts.
Who created Logic??? Either God is all-powerful and He is lord over logic or not. God can operate within or outside the laws of both logic and nature if it so pleases Him. That's like saying Allah isn't omnipotent because he appeared to Moses in the form of a burning bush and not in his spirit form.
@@Kingrich_777 that's what I'm saying they steal stories from old to suite the quran and chuck it out when it doesn't agree with them. They made a false idol.
Simple logic for des t r o ying Christianity is if they believe in Trinity and God Nauzubillah can't be separated from it then before Jesus Christ PBUH was born how did Trinity work then? Was God and holy Ghost sufficient to sustain themselves? If that is the case why can't they believe that God can be One and not be dependent.
Don reminds me of this saying: “I have never debated with a knowledgeable person, except that I won the debate, and I have never debated with an ignorant person, except that I lost.” Imam Ash-Shafi`ee (rahmahullah)
@@m._aneeq when someone is ignorant they won't agree with you even when you bring evidence logic and proof so they'll keep arguing. When someone is knowledgable they will see when you made a point and admit to it because of how much they know. You're not dumb btw all of us are learning.
Young Don needs to realise that when someone makes a public claim that a certain religion is false, then he needs to expect and face the clap back, don't escape by saying stuff like "just because you don't understand, doesn't mean it's false" Don, just like Many Christians, fails to explain the trinity, now that says a lot, and I'm not trying to offend anyone, but if you can't explain something, than you don't understand it, and if you believe in something that you don't even understand, that my friend, is called Blind faith. Edit : scroll down to see Christians spewing nothing new.
As a Christian all my life I’m 40 next year I started looking into Islam ☪️ daily last 6 months I have no doubts Islam is the truth I have never experienced such peace but It has also open up a lot about Christianity that’s been hard to take also .
Al hamdulillah that's good news that you've recognised Islam as the truth. Do you mind if I ask whether you have accepted Islam as your religion now? If you haven't yet taken your shahadah but are still interested, I'd plead with you not to delay it further. It is the devil's desire that you never accept Islam and he'll do everything in his power to stop you from doing so, one of his most effective tools is procrastination.
There are a lot of things in my secular life that I thought I knew that have been challenged by reading quran. No doubt it is the truth but it's hard to accept for me as an atheist too haha.
Salaam 3alaikum brother May Allah bless you with imaan a pure heart and May He lead you to Islaam and let Quran be your Guide and The PROPHET MUHAMMED.SALLA ALLAH ALAIHI WA SALLAMA BE YOUR EXAMPLE of man to follow and love.God blessbyou abondantly and keep you and your family from harm.Allah guides whom he loves to ISLAM .
I'm a Muslim revert, I think Don is a great guy, he believes in god but he needs to investigate the truth! The fact is, you don't even need to give dawah to a Christian because the Bible debunks itself.
I thought he was a great guy until i saw his arrogance towards the truth when shaykh uthman was speaking to him and after shaykh uthman hanged up he was calling him manipulative etc. And the fact that he attacks islam multiple times without knowing it.
Faiyad that was beautifully said at the end, we are here to break boundaries to connect to each other, not divide like Islam VS Christianity, so showing love at the end and telling they should talk about it off stream showed magnitude brother. thanks for the upload. gladly a witness of these convos. ❤ to all my People of the Book who act righteous and sacrifice their time and energy to do good. Salam from a Muslim.
The Christian immediately chose to insult the last prophet (Peace and Blessings be upon him) and chose to watch david wood and apostate prophet after this stream. Allah warned us about them in the Quran, in Al Baqarah, so don't even bother thinking they'll be righteous to us unless we become Christians as well, following their desires, instead of Allah's command.
@@yahiiiaplays1252 I get your point and it would be unlogical to know islam and not convert to it, since it basically adds a new Prophet to the Deen and makes clear logical Rules on how to live life and why. It is actually easy to understand and makes sense. however if I can recall correctly, the people of the book who for some reason had no real contact islam and never had something against it, but still believe in a higher being, believing in christianity, judaism, I can imagine them to getting their deserved reward too. and allah is the most merciful, so who are we to say who comes into paradise and who into jahannam. it is clear and ruled, I know, but lifes and kadr are so very specific to one another, one muslim born in a peaceful area does his deeds, and dies being a proper muslim. then there is the christian, jew born into a hard position full of suffering, hardship and what not, still holding onto a higher being and respecting what encounters them due for them believing into a higher being. maybe they were not supposed to be muslims for some reason allah knows best. I dont say the religions are right, they are not, I am saying there are circumstances in some lifes, that is beyond our understanding. allah knows best. I think we should go into theory with these things because it sometimes adds a additional understanding of something. I know a christian since I live in EU who showed me a right way and called me out for wrongdings. and I appreciate that. I hope he will convert ot islam, insha allah. Islam is the truth, there is no doubt. Everything the quran says and the hadiths say are right, straight forward, logical, fascinating...(list could go on forever).
@@serious_sharp Allah can use Christians to correct you. No slave of his is out of his reach. It was most likely not the Christian who corrected you, but Allah himself. It happens to me too, when disbelievers or circumstances all come to my benefit or to correct me. Allah guides whom he wills and verily, he holds Absolute Dominion over all of us. But I would also like to add, that many Christians by their own books rules are going to Jahannam. For example, in the bible, it is written that if a child is born out of wedlock, he and ten generations after will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. When my Lord, Allah, and their Lord, Allah, judges them on their own book, he'll throw most of them into the Hellfire. They're not even allowed to eat pork or get drunk. This is the Bible, the Gospel, not even the Quran. And saying that the Most Merciful begot a son is a grave crime. It almost causes the Heavens to split and the mountains to collapse. And most of them pray to the Messiah, not to the Lord who created mankind. All their deeds are made to vanish, because they did it for other than Allah. If no warner came to them, they will be tested on Judgement Day when an Angel comes with a roaring flame and calls for a disbeliever to enter it, if he trusts in the Most Merciful. Allah knows best, but Allah is very clear on what he thinks of being associated with others.
This is contradictory though. There are several videos that show don on one side and one of the brothers at the other side with a vs in between. Clearly it shows a side vs another. I do agree with his message subhana’allah
It’s soo funny someone claiming that Islam is false when the bible itself has gone through soo many changes by priests and bishops etc etc at there’s still dozens of mistakes within , yet they see this as “ gods words” and think it’s their salvation. May allah guide them
As Allah said in the Quran, the signs are clear before them. They are just so deluded. They were indoctrinated from a young age, to believe God can be 3 in 1. It’s hard for them to understand it’s illogical. “The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger. ˹Many˺ messengers had ˹come and˺ gone before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They both ate food.[256] See how We make the signs clear to them, yet see how they are deluded ˹from the truth˺!” (Quran 5:75)
Christians believe the Bible is divinely inspired. Not “the word of God”. Muslims make the claim the their book is “Gods word” which is ridiculous. How can you ever prove that lmao. Also, let’s trust a man born 600 years after Christ to tell us about him better than the first hand accounts in the Bible😆. Muslim are lost but I will pray for them.
@@soccerislife6108 we have proof it’s from god 😂😂🤣 it hasn’t been changed ONCE haha . Ohhh so you admit the bible not gods words ?? Okay you’re one step closer to the truth . There are miracles in the Quran that prove it’s correct. They found a page from the Quran from the time of the prohet and it’s the exact same as like today. You say Muslims are lost, but we worship one god . You worship 2 haha. You worship Jesus and the father. You are a pagan religion . We worship one god just like Jesus preached and just like every single messenger sent to man preached . Did you know the word Christian didn’t even exsist at the time of Jesus haha. You’re whole religion is flawed in countless ways. You follow the religion of that liar paul and not of Jesus. We Muslims follow Jesus and pray to the god Jesus prayed too.
@@soccerislife6108 humans are funny creatures, they want to know the truth but reject it because of their pride and arrogance. God says in the Quran that he will never guide someone who’s heart is full of pride. You even admitted the bible ain’t gods words haha , it’s written and been rewritten by a bunch of nobodies and you all believe these people 😂😂 soo ridiculous
what's interesting... is that when Shaykh Uthman made his best points and laid down an explanation of islam, this guy was on his phone, headphones off, even left the room for a sec... "indeed, you do not guide whom you like. Rather, Allah guides whom he wills".
i love how people someone blindly believe in christianity but most of ya'll guys says that the bible talks about your prophets. lol if the bible fake and if jesus was not god. do you understand that would mean your prophet would be a false one.
@@madaxwayne then again if you don't need it why do your people keep saying it then. if the bible that's not the original bible why do they keep saying that jesus predicted your prophet.
@@fcchannel6162 We aren't saying the bible is completely false, we're saying it has been altered and is not in its original state, there are contradictions and incorrect statements within but still some truth to be found within.
John 5:30 "By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just,for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me" Jesus is literally the prophet
“You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. John 14:28 If Jesus (as) is part of the Trinity and is God, no one part should lack. God sent Islam to set things straight with this deviant creation manipulating His revelations for personal gain. Salvation is not determined by accepting a human sacrifice for your sins, the Mayans and other civilizations that died thought the same. God forgives if one is sincere
This is such a beautiful verse that shows clearly that Jesus is a prophet of God. I love how prophets in the old testament are referred to as sons of god, but in the new testament, for Jesus they take it literally lol.
@@Kingrich_777 This is the Bible, saying that NO HARM will come to Jesus, the son of Mary, which refutes the lies of him suffering on the cross or being killed. It also confirms that Allah took Jesus up to himself and is giving him a long life before his second coming! Psalm 91:10-16 New International Version 10 no harm will overtake you, no disaster will come near your tent. 11 For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways; 12 they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone. 13 You will tread on the lion and the cobra; you will trample the great lion and the serpent. 14 “Because he[a] loves me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name. 15 He will call on me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will deliver him and honor him. 16 With long life I will satisfy him and show him my salvation.”
Mash’aAllah! Jazakum Allahu Khiran for having this respectful conversation! Looking forward to having Sheikh Uthman and Sneako insh’aAllah! May Allah (SWT) guide him to the Straight path Ameen!
Jesus quite literally said, "I and the Father are One. WHOEVER HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER ALSO." So stop using that fallacious argument. It makes you trinity-denying Muslims a little selective in what you perceive as truth. Especially since yall are the ones on Don's backside for not reading his Bible enough. Seems like yall only seem to read the verses in the gospels that leave room for your anti-Christian beliefs.
@@Kingrich_777 Jesus also said Oh good teacher! Why do you call me good?' Jesus answered. 'No one is good--except God alone. Luke 18:19 What did Jesus say to Mary at the tomb : do not touch me, I'm yet to ascend to my father and your father, my God and your God. John 20:17 That they may know you the father the only true god and Jesus christ whom you have sent. John 17-3 Now you clearly have a problem. All those claims you made are from the gospel of John (Only) the other gospels don't mention those. Either Jesus in the Bible is contradicting himself or the authors of the bible are liars. The latter makes more sense.
@@Kingrich_777 The scripture explains itself; it seems like you're the one that has selectively read the verses of the gospels. Later in the same gospel, John 17: 11 And now I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them in your name that you have given me, so that *they may be one, as we are one.* 20 “I ask not only on behalf of these but also on behalf of those who believe in me through their word, 21 that *they may all be one. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us,* so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 The glory that you have given me I have given them, so that *they may be one, as we are one,* 23 *I in them and you in me, that they may become completely one,* so that the world may know that you have sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. Jesus says the disciples and in fact all who believe in Jesus are one *JUST AS* Jesus and the Father are one, and they are all in each other. If Jesus being one with the Father means they're coequal partners in a Godhead, and can not mean anything else, then they need to scoot over and make room for all the believers in the world to join them as coequal Gods.
"God came to earth in a human form, got born, no longer become all knowing, become 3 but 1, and then 1 die for all of human sin" Don: That makes sense to me "God is an all powerful being chose a human as a prophet to deliver his message" Don: That dont make sense to me
Jesus being a prophet just like Moses, Abraham, Noah etc. makes the most logical sense. If god wanted to come on earth as his own creation, why wouldn’t he have done it earlier in human history?
The thing with Don is that he gets too emotional so he don’t even want to listen and goes against everything that’s being said to him. I was a huge fan of him up until he said bad things about Islam… May Allah swt guide him
@@framework333 no it means he doesn’t even know his own religion nor the stories in it and still wants to debate and when he loses he gets emotional and denies everything. His ignorance is not gonna make him stronger
Seems like Don needs to read more of the Bible to learn what God tells us about Himself to really see the contradiction between what God tells us about Himself and what He believes.
How is reading more of the Bible gonna make him come to that conclusion? If anything, he's going to believe more. I mean there are great christian theologians who know the bible up and down and they know it is not a contradiction, because they understand context and don't read it just to try to find contradictions and misinterpret the Bible like atheists or some Muslims do.
@@mahirwemoses8007 You mean this Christian scholarship? You have no idea what the theologians themselves say let alone scholarship. Ur argument is since they are experts and remain Christians they must know something we don't. Not a logical point mate. The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such*, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”*-(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126. “The Christian Bible, including the New Testament, has no Trinitarian statements or speculations concerning a Trinity deity” The Encyclopedia Britannica, 15th edition, 1985 The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective*.”*-(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299. In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”-(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.
"You're wanting to Appropriate womanhood and turn it into a costume you can wear"- Matt Similarly, you're wanting to appropriate the 'one God' and turn it into a costume 3 entities can wear. In both cases logical reasoning forbids you to do so. In the end, trinity is as good a concept to describe God as 'birthing parent' is to describe a man.
@@kakarote100 Within humanity, every person is simultaneously one being, but that does not mean that every conceivable being must be constricted to one person. And even within humanity, there are people that experience multiple personality syndrome, however the human mind is not great enough to withstand such a phenomenon.
@@flourishomotola5306 but we are not talking about 3 'personalities' .... but rather 3 'persons', hence 3 beings. see the difference? What differentiates one person from the other are their natures. The Father has God nature (All Knowing), whereas Jesus has human nature (limited knowledge). Complete knowledge (God nature) and limited knowledge (human nature) can't exist side by side in one being, if it can, can you describe how?
No, as white people put pictures on Jesus and a blond hair blue eye man. If you go to Kenya churches or the see the busses the ride, they have pictures of Jesus as a white man. Islam totally is against that, you can’t find pictures of Prophet Muhammad anywhere.
This don guy sounds exactly like i did 4 years ago. When i just found a belief and became so arrogant in myself that no matter how true the counter argument to mine was, i just ignored it, or just shut that down by trying to focus on something else. May allah (swt) guide him.
I am a guy from Russia, very shortly InsaAllah I will explain to you why Christianity cannot be the true religion. 1. Christians claim that God can do whatever he wants and that we have no right to question his decisions. He can become a man, forget about the Hour, give up for a while his attributes that make him God, die in the end, because he is God and everything is within his power. I personally do not understand why then God could not become a sacred cow, which the Hindus worship, or transform into a butterfly, insect, leaf or stone. After all, he can do anything. Why can't God, being human, marry and have children of gods who "choose to be human" and give up their divine attributes. this is absurd. God only does what is in keeping with His majesty and attributes. He will never become a cow, a worm, a fish or a man, because this contradicts his Essence, which is described in the Old Testament. 2. The concept of God. In Christianity, God is triune and consists of three persons. Father, son and holy spirit. They are all equal and are one God, but at the same time the Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit. A very strange concept that is impossible for a thinking person to understand. The problem with this concept is that, being the central and most important dogma of the creed, we cannot find it explicitly in the Bible itself. What confuses me even more is that the prophets of the Old Testament never preached the trinity of God, but only his unity. Noah, Abraham, Moses and other prophets spoke and preached one God, not a trinity. The replacement of one God by a triune God occurred only in Christianity. Other Abrahamic religions such as Judaism and Islam are religions of pure monotheism.
first we were made in gods direct image so your saying its beneath god to take the form of that which I in his image and compare it to animals and insects do you get that logic and second maybe they didnt see them as three distinct beings but as they are one god
The concept of god becoming human and holding his godly attributes still doesn’t make sense 🤷 You don’t need to be a sheep to lead a herd of sheep. You just need to send a Shepherd.
And you cannot have a square circle. If god becomes a human he isn't God anymore. If he stays god he can send prophets that is what they meant by a squared circle because you can't be fully human and fully God
@@inspexter9761 this is what don was referencing when he said you're imposing your own limitations on what god can and cant do. god could be a square circle by simultaneously being a square and a circle, that is what it means to be all power, all creating, all knowing. God could create a human from his being and still have said human be connected to him. Jesus claimed that he was of god and was speaking for god and following gods instructions, jesus never claimed to be the entirety of god himself
I had a Christian roommate that used to hold bible sturdies online almost every week.(all members seamed to go to different churches) So.. they used to pick chapters and verses out of the Bible, read them out loud and educate each other… what always ended up happening was, disagreeing with one another, interpreting verses wrongly, some saying but my bible says something else, it’s this… no it’s that.. (one saying one thing and the other saying the opposite 🤨) and even when a verse was crystal clear with no ambiguity ( ie He went to the market) subhana’Allah they always had trouble with it, yet it’s sooo clear (like Alice lost in wonderland) I only had 1 question, how is it that they are not bothered about having different wordings and meanings?, rather they always ended up saying all wordings are correct even when the’re clear contradictions in each (they always justified everything) In one part where they speak about Adam after eating the forbidden fruit and God saying “Adam..Adam.. where are you?” One of them asked. “HOW COME GOD DOES NOT KNOW WHERE ADAM IS, YET HE IS ALL KNOWING”? I wish I recorded the mambo Jambo each of them answered with (answers that made No Sense at all and had no relation to the question asked.😏🙄😔 really sad and disappointing how they use their intellect. Alhamdulillah thumma Alhamdulillah for the guidance Allah has given us.
God always give free will, that's why you have the right to make your choice God asked adam that question but adam answered wrong if God was unable to know the location of adam hw on earth will he know that adam was lying use your brain
@@kelvanorolle761it's not about knowing the location of adam, God is aware of everything after adam committed the first sin God gave him a chance to come clean, first God tested Adam , asked him giving him a chance God might have planned to forgive Adam so he tested him asking that question and Adam said the first lie, nit believing in God is like saying complex circuit like your phone can exist for no reason on earth without being built by a human there are no contradictions in the bible, it's the only book that can teach you how to live a perfect fulfilling life
Whomever smacked Yung Don with all this misinformation really did a number on the poor guy. He'll be spending years trying to figure this out only to find that what he needed to do is study and research for himself.
@@SpecialAgentTinkyWinky I only say this because I've gone through the process of figuring everything out from ignorance. You have to be completely honest with yourself to be able to do so and that's harder than it sounds.
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a physical son!* To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word (power) of God! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the man Jesus and the man Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
Young Don, the word "and" is used to show that they are together in purpose, but separate entities. The prophets are unified in purpose to spread the word of God, but they are separate entities. The trinity on the other hand is just another form of polytheism.
Men, with all due respect, this guy's mind is indeed in a basket, like all Christians Bro bring this chap to the Arena, let's have a dialogue with brother hamza
Bro you have no doubts about Islam yet follow a prophet who sinned was possesed killed people raided caravans consumated with aisha at 9 waged wars and bought and sold slaves.
@@mtttt592 this is your opinion based on your ignorance. I do respect your right of opinion But in these days of high-tech, ignorance is a choice... Which you chose..
@@mtttt592 🤣🤣🤣well well well, I know, to be EX MUSLIM is a new business 🤣🤣🤣all your arguments you brought has already debunked very long time ago, so don't act as if you've discover pearls out of nothing.. Plz go and educate yourself.
I don't know why Muslims argue with this guy about Christianity. He lacks knowledge about the Bible and the Quran. I watched the discussion between him and sheikh Uthman, the guy lacks knowledge and he is very argumentive. He himself said he is only been practising Christianity for two months. He needs to study his new found religion in depth, and then come back to have a proper debate, until then we are just wasting our time.
This is a copy from another comment I made but changed slightly: We’re not trying to fully understand God using our limited understanding, we’re trying to understand via what has supposedly been revealed to Don in his Bible (in your belief the word of God): Should’ve told him that you’re not the one defining God, but using what was “revealed” in their Bible. Meaning God defined himself as having X, Y, Z attributes according to A, B, C verses in their own Bible. 1 Samuel 15:19, Numbers 23:10, etc. show that God is not a man 1 John 1:8-10 states God cannot be in the presence of Sin, so how would Jesus take upon sin if he is God 1 Timothy 6:16 states God is immortal, immortality literally means cannot die. However Jesus dies according to their belief. The answer is usually his humanity died, but then that means that God did not die for your sins (well God is unable to die anyway so either way it’s a paradox) The claim for the divinity of Jesus comes in ambiguous verses all of which can apply to so many others The Bible itself has add additions that have been removed in the NIV or NKJV, prominent verses like the famous 1 John 5:7, “For there are three who bear witness in heaven, the father, the word and the Holy Spirit and these three are one” is literally not found in the earliest complete manuscript and was therefore removed b/c it is literally a later addition and had to be changed… John 17:20-21: 20 “I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, 21 so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. These verses above were used by Don the last time he talked saying that Jesus and the Father are one, therefore this proves his divinity. But those who follow are also one with them, so are they also God, is it billions of members of the God-head now? If you try to claim it’s b/c he’s the Son of God, then all righteous folk are sons of God according to the Old Testament (Psalms 82:6), including emphatically so many former prophets. If the word you want to use is Begotten then David was also a Begotten son according to the Old Testament (Psalms 2:7 and Psalms 89:27). Jesus had no father claim therefore his Father is God, then Adam had no father or mother, Eve had no Father or Mother either. Adam is also THE son of God in the New Testament’s lineage of Jesus (which have two different lineages…) These same claims for divinity can be applied to so many different people holistically looking at the Bible. Anyway that is my understanding and there are many more definitions “God himself” in their belief gives in their scripture which made me unable to believe in Christianity.
This is the Bible, saying that NO HARM will come to Jesus, the son of Mary, which refutes the lies of him suffering on the cross or being killed. It also confirms that Allah took Jesus up to himself and is giving him a long life before his second coming! Psalm 91:10-16 New International Version 10 no harm will overtake you, no disaster will come near your tent. 11 For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways; 12 they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone. 13 You will tread on the lion and the cobra; you will trample the great lion and the serpent. 14 “Because he[a] loves me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name. 15 He will call on me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will deliver him and honor him. 16 With long life I will satisfy him and show him my salvation.”
honestly this debate is straight up dumb . i could read whatever the other book muslim read is and find “contradictions” too , yet you would not believe that . end of the day religion is about faith and belief dont turn that stuff into debates for views and clicks . lemme read my bible you read your book and we’ll see in the afterlife who’s right or wrong
How do you explain this sir ◄ 1 Timothy 3:16 ► And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory
That “i and the father are one” verse easily breaks down when you bring john17:20-23 Not only is Jesus praying but also saying those that believe in Jesus and the father are one with them… In the mind of a Christian those that believe in Jesus and the father are God then 🫤🫤🫤
doesn’t the quran say man was made out of clay in one verse a drop of sperm in another and a clot of blood in another one ? also there are different verses that say several people were the first muslim . also the way you interpret that verse it’s not that the father and jesus are the same they are part of the holy trinity therefore they are one . just keep believing what you believe in there is no need to question another religion if you so strongly believe in yours
@@rmelo2382 adam was made of clay and then God breathed soul into this man, and thats What was meant by created men from clay, as for the sperm on sperm, i think u mean and created the rest of men from sperm, which is not wrong.
If i say "Me AND my brother are going to the park" it means me and my brother are two separate entities. Now you might say we share common traits and you would be right, we are both going to the park. But if you say "THE ONLY TRUE GOD *AND* Jesus Christ whom You have sent" that means that Jesus Christ is excluded for the Godhood of God, it as simple as that.
Conflicts are arisen through mainly emotions, whether someone is considered ‘right’ or considered ‘wrong’. If we feel strongly about someone or something and IF we couldn’t control these emotions, all hell WILL break loose.
Because god is perfect, we used to be perfect but we fell from perfection, now the only way to get back to perfection is god getting us back to perfection since his only one that is perfect and no one else ...
@@LifeAndTimelessArt how can something perfect become imperfect? Thats sounds like a paradoxical statement. If i was perfect then i could never be or become imperfect.. Or i was never really perfect in the first place..
@@LifeAndTimelessArt sorry now you have completely lost me... Someone without corruption or sin is already perfect.. So why would he have to die to restore perfection.. Now I think you shouldnt reply because you are making yourself sound very silly
Just to clear up the eternal question: John 1:1-5 - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it." John 1:14 "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."
the problem is that he argues from a baseless position, because you can make that “it’s because you don’t understand it” claim with any religion/ideology - so wouldn’t the Creator make it extremely simple and clear for his Creation? Islam has detailed evidences for its traditions, and the Qur’an makes claims that it is THE truth and asks for others to try and disprove it but alhamdulillah no one can or will
Don conflates not questioning the intentionality of god and questioning the claims of the Bible. If you want to equate the two, you first have to prove why the Bible is reliable source of information and that it makes a truthful claim of being from god.
My advice for what it's worth, you will reach far far further to Muslims with using Grace vs refuting or debating. They need something tangible, so give it to them.. Love them so hard they can't even understand why. Cast your own Grace their direction and display a more than sincere example of your love to them in a method where you can be witnessed using your faith and love so hardcore that it's undeniable. Like this, if anyone anywhere witnessed your own conviction exerted so hard, you love something and do something so hard that others are left with a perception of feeling as though their missing out on what you've displayed so hard. You believe in something so hard that others are left feeling as though their missing out on it... you must exert your faith and your own Grace with as much power as you individually can conjure... display it undeniably.... Just my opinion. Easily discarded untill one sees my own display of my own relationship with God. If you were to see how I love him back, I assure any one anywhere would be compelled to at the very least simply make their own attempt to either find the same for their own self or test their own faiths against what they've witnessed to see if it compared.... Don't stop... any measure of anyone needs you more than ever now...
02:58 The word „and“ CAN in fact be used as a separation. Example: „I greeted every single one of my friends and Daniel.“ In this example I didn’t separate Daniel from the people I’ve greeted, but I’ve separated him from my friends, meaning he IS NOT one of them.
May Allah guide Don, this whole thing afterward made me lose respect for Don especially after he insulted Prophet Muhammad (SAW), he played a huge part in my childhood with his animations and now his videos talking about the modern problems in society like feminism, abortion, LGBTQ+ agenda etc but he's simply on the wrong path and completely shut out Shaykh Uthman when trying to discuss the very obvious issues in the bible that even Christian scholars have said it's corrupted beyond repair, Allah guide us all.
@@yakamashii7039 look in the comments of his video on this stream he called Prophet Muhammad (SAW) a pedophile who raped Aisha which is farther from the truth as there's no indication and no documentation whatsoever that he raped any woman as Aisha herself expressed a lot of love for him and obviously in today's society it would be rape but 1400 years the age of consent was after the age of puberty, it's obvious he looked up some biased Christian source for this type of information.
I love Jesus( P.B.U.H)and in islam we know he is coming back. As a Muslim... and even just common sense ...God is untouchable and doesn't need to prove himself to no One.. Us weak humans need God he does Not need us..... I just want to know according to this young man, did Jesus pretend to die? did he pretend to feel pain? and is he in hiding? Plus Jesus (P.B.U.H)himself in the original text said He is not God...and can do nothing of himself.. He also said he has No knowledge of the last day .Esa (A.S.) (Jesus.) also said there was another named A'hmed to come.. I know Jesus had a miraculous birth since Mary Peace and blessings upon her was a virgin when the angel was sent to blow the soul into her and remained a virgin after delivering, Prophet Jesus Peace and Blessings upon him. I don't believe in the creation but the Creator Allah (La ilaha'illah)(God) who created miracles some of which we still do not know... So Adam the first human that was created with neither a Mother or a Father sounds more 🤔 miraculous of a creation than Jesus who atleast had a Mother... People really need to start thinking and digging deep instead of believing without questioning... Since Adam (A.S) all the way to all the Prophets were created it's been the same answer Allah is our creator and all of us even the Prophets were created to worship him and him alone... So No Jesus wasn't praying to himself. No Jesus doesn't know what day the end of times is (Judgement day). Jesus never died and yes will be coming back. So if as Christians claim he died for their sins Why would he come back to die again but this time Only reserects on the day of Judgement as the rest of us as human and Jinn kind. On Judgement day we all run to Jesus P.B.U.H to save us but he can't....What will save us is if we believed and worshipped in Allah alone. Allah will forgive us for everything except 1 thing if we worshiped anything other than him.. the Almighty, the All Knowing the Creator of the heavens and the earth and every single thing in the universe... Alhimdulilah for the most beautiful religion and guidance that with No doubt No errors and all the answers the Quran el Kareem . Allah's word.
What i basically got from this conversation is the 3 muslims explaining to don that there cant be a square circle. Don is arguing how it can be possible
Guys, always try to ask these two most logical questions to a christian. 1) If Jesus died for all our sins, what's the point of Judgement day? 2) All the prophets came with the same message and commandment, why do u only choose to believe the only thing that goes against all prophets and commandments? Why not choose the most updated version?...which u prefer in gadgets n phones, but not in the case of God n prophets.
The answer in the first one is The Judgement day also named as "The Second Coming" and "The End Times" is named because God is gonna finished what he planned for the World and Us people since the beginning.And it's by defeating Satan and Evil for good.He isn't just gonna let us all deal with devil forever.Once the perfect time has come.All the people will leave this imperfect evil word to go to their real deserving places.Either Heaven or Hell.
@joshmunsayac9738 more since huh 😂 All the Gospels can't even agree if Jesus God or the son of God Matthew mark luke john all say he's a prophet 👇 Matthew 21:11 ☝️ And the crowds said, “This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth of Galilee Luke 4:24 ☝️ Truly, I say to you, no prophet is acceptable in his hometown Mark 6:3-4 ☝️ Then they scoffed . . . . They were deeply offended and refused to believe in him. Then Jesus told them, “A PROPHET is honored everywhere except in his own hometown and among his relatives and his own family” John 12:49-50 ☝️ For I did not speak on my own initiative, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak. I know that His commandment is eternal life; therefore the things I speak, I speak just as the Father has told me John 8:28 ☝️ So Jesus said, "When YOU lift up the Son of MAN, then you will know that I am he, and I do nothing on my own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father TAUGHT me John 6:14 ☝️ After the people saw the sign Jesus performed, they began to say, “Surely this is the PROPHET who is to come into the world John 7:16 ☝️ So Jesus answered them and said, "My teaching is NOT mine, but his who sent me" He even leaves ah reminder for the disbelievers that think he's god or the son of god Matthew 7:22-23 ☝️ Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles? ' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers! ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️
The christian guy is all feelings no facts. Doesn’t even try to be logical and rational. Anyone who doesn’t have HIS understanding is wrong and he keept spamming the second commandment.
Ask yung don ,If someone have perfect health he never was sick in his life ever and one day he got sick can we say that person have never been sick? Same thing with being eternal and all knowing for ever , you cant die or not know something otherwise it wont fit the description of eternal and all knowing anymore
He makes the point of "and" including Jesus. Grammatically that doesnt make sense. 2 commas are used to specify the farther as ", the only true God," This is done two times, after the farther and after Jesus. If "and" links two things, surely those two things are different. " the father, the only true God, and Jesus, whom you have sent"
I mean even if he were granted that jesus and the father are the only true god then that means the holy spirit is not true god and the trinity collapses These christians be aruging against jesus
My question is if Jesus is a God in human form so to who does Jesus(A.S) pray as mentioned in the Bible? It's like one being is asking for help and bowing before another being who is more powerful than him.
God made the Son of Man after a long time of dark years where people could not be saved(Old Testament. Even back then God was more strict, and didn’t want to have the embodiment of Jesus to hold hands with sinners at the start) Because of this, Jesus is the savior. I think God really wanted us to live in eternal peace, but wanted us to see how far we can take “knowledge”. He loves us so he gave us what he knew we wanted. We truly wanna be like God and have powers like making a car with no effort. So the gift of life is everyone’s single lives and how different they are.
@@kryptic5007 i dont think you can make such bold claims and say God sent everyone to hell prior to Jesus christ pbuh or that they could not be saved. There were righteous people amongst them too and Jesus christ comes from their lineage he isnt a greek man. He also stated he came for lost sheep of israel and called the non jew woman a dog for asking for help. Its in your bible. You can preach as much as you like proving jesus to be god when he explicitly says otherwise isnt your only problem dear. You have clear errors and contradictions in the biblical narrative so for example the main one comes from paul whose teachings lead christians to trinity his very own main event had contradiction Paul vision on road to damascus has 3 contradictory accounts in the bible Acts 9:3-8, Acts 22:6-11, Acts 26.13-19 They had 1 job to do and even messed up there. We believe Jesus christ was a messiah he was divinely inspired he was a prophet and messenger of God. You just dont have evidence for who wrote the bible. The scriptures were tampered and God saved his word as it cannot be tempered with and gave Quran through an ishmaelite prophet which was foretold in book of Genesis. Quran is your final testament which is preserved by the promise of God
@@187a3 You’re the one who’s uneducated “dear” lol. I thought you had a little background on the Old Testament, but apparently not for probably obvious reasons. But the majority of people did not get saved before the birth of Christ. Humans were damned to hell. Some knew it while most didn’t, and it made them even more barbaric. Noah was spoken to and saved by God both from the flood, and eternally for worshipping him. Those like Enoch, Elijah, and his bloodline before and after him, and the Israelites were saved. They had no law book, and the pressures of the world’s influences made them evil (knowledge). And many different people contributed to both testaments, yes but in an accurate time frame. The first 300 years and no manuscript bs is due to people always wanting answers to deem this wrong. You don’t know what happened during those 300 years. Nobody does. That period could’ve been a sacred time that we will never know about. Deuteronomy 29:29 the Dead Sea scrolls, and many ancient bibles were found having the same word for word scriptures. And please don’t tell me this Jesus calling a woman a dog thing is the story of the Canaanite woman? First, that’s misleadingly not true. It’s Matthew 15:21-28. He tests the woman’s faith by not responding to her first impression of begging After saying his duty was to Israel, she still shows faith and mercy by saying “Help me!” After this, He says “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.” Implying that the Word she’s been taught is clearly not the same, not willing to help, States his duty to a specific people. This lady doesn’t know Jesus’s special feelings for Israel, even naming Jacob after it. She understands that the food’s purpose is the same for everyone. It comes from God’s table and everyone should be part of it. What makes the children special, when most of them will be evil anyway? th-cam.com/users/shortscL8T3iQdlrI?feature=share
He lost the debate when accepting the term "parts" and being "contingent on 3 parts". The Christian position is that it is the essence that makes YHWH God, and that essence is shared between 3 persons, a person being essence plus accidents according to John of Damascus. Alhamdulillah I don't believe any of this but I think it's always good to steel-man the position rather than present a false position.
@@lolaaasa1905 bro you saying that tells me that you never challenged your own religion(if you are Muslim). Even one scholar said there are holes in the Quran but they deleted the video on their channel because they knew it would be controversial, luckily someone still has that video, I even showed that exact same video to a Muslim and he said the scholar must say exactly what holes. So even with evidence that top Muslim scholars admit to there being holes, Muslims still wouldn't believe it for some reason
He doesn't seem to get how incorherent his position is It's like saying the unlimited being can fit in the limited being which is just a ridiculous statement, and this is just a one example to go off their bible is full of contradictions when it comes to god Christians can't comprehend simple logic and reason.
To use an analogy for the incarnation - If an author includes himself in an autobiography as a character in that book, does that author cease to exist ?
@@iledawn9282 You took the analogy *literally* . So just take your time and think on it. The analogy was meant to show that God can become man without ceasing to be God. Using the same analogy, if a man can put himself into something that he created (like a book or movie) then there is no reason why God can't put Himself into the universe he created. If a man can do it, God can certainly do it. So you don't have to believe in Christianity, but you can't say its "irrational", "ridiculous", etc. You can still believe something is coherent without it believing it to be true.
Don says everything god does is right but Genesis 6:6 says: “And the LORD regretted that He had made man on the earth, and it grieved Him to His heart”
Funny how they read bible and interpret it on their own and then go around claiming other religions as false 😭 some don’t even read bible and just follow “Christian Influencers”, believing them blindly. But I think more people reverted to Islam from this, Alhamdulillah! Good work by the people in this stream for bringing this issue to public and I think more confrontations from people hating/attacking other religions is necessary because the hate crimes over religions are increasing and concerning. People need to realize that it’s ok for others to not have same beliefs/opinions as you. Get over it instead of spreading hate and attacking!
Adam, Noah, Abraham, Joseph, David, Solomon, and a host of other Prophets (pbuta): "worship 1 true God!" Jesus (pbuh): 3 in 1 gods (per Christian logic) Ok.
YOUNG DON THIS MESSAGE IS FOR YOU: When I first became a believer in Jesus Christ, I was filled with zeal just like you. However, I was also filled with ignorance of Scripture and denominational teachings which take the Scriptures out of context in order to justify the existence of their congregation. Fast forward seven years later and that no longer holds true about me. I am a master at what I know. I am not claiming to know the whole bible inside out but what I know is what the bible truly is and it's purpose. This spectacle with the Muslim brothers should have never happened. You are trying to sell diesel fueled cars to electrical car buffs. They will never change, and that is fine. That is their choice and their perrogative. They need to sort out their own divisions within their faith as we need to also resolve the divisions within the believers in Christ. I hereby leave the door open for you if you wish to learn the truth about what Scripture, not me or a denomination, says. Godspeed. @vazylio Many years ago I was shadowbanned for the biblical content I would post. Which is why now I choose for it to remain empty.
@Original Blizzardhawk what if I told you no one was doomed? You wouldn't believe it. It is humans that want others to perish. The very humans that wrote up the doctrines to what we know today as institutionalized religion and are under a tax code that makes them exempt from paying taxes. The point of Christ was to be the ultimate sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. Centuries prior, Israel had to sacrifice animals under the Law in order to be forgiven of sin. The innocent dies for the guilty. Which is why Christ died to pay for the eniquities of the guilty worldwide. You may like or may not like this answer but it is notbmy answer it was written wayyyy before I came along.
I was just thinking the same thing. perhaps he doesn't posses the tools for logical analysis and assessment. but discovery of AND resolution of ignorance is always a beautiful thing.
Trinity is actually easy to explain, you someone's son, someone's husband and someone's father all at the same time. Different identities and roles but the same person...simple right?
@@zach8474 But the analogy doesn't hold if the Father is not the son of someone, because to be god, according to your analogy, the Father has to be *somebody's son* apart from being somebody's father at the same time, right?
@@kakarote100 No. God the Father is a role of God. Its God is playing the role of the Father who has a son. The son is Jusus and he is God playing the identity as the son of God the father, the Holy spirit is the “husband" of the the Church (us who are described in the Bible as the bride of the Holy spirit) ... but let's just wait for the next video. Because I'm not an expert lol just thought I'd give a 2c since I don't think Don was making things clear
@@zach8474 You just redefined trinity by stating the Father is a role of God. A being can have roles but a being is not a role. Is the Father a being or a role? Parenthood is the role of any father, but he's also somebody's son, unless he's Adam (pbuh). If the role itself is seen as father, then that's a logical fallacy. "A Trinity doctrine is commonly expressed as the statement that the one God exists as or in *three equally divine “Persons”,* the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit."
Nah kinda lost some respect for y'all with this one. Every religion in the abrahamic faiths believes in its own faith to the exclusion of the others. Same way he views Islam as false, y'all view Christianity as false. That is why you debate in the first place, that should *not* be something to be contentious over...then sheikh Uthman coming in and not answering the question on salvation and just trying to twist the Bible then leaving was cowardly. Don didn't do his best but he was caught off guard and was just trying to learn and ask questions. Uthman being one of the largest apologists going against a new Christian convert is obviously unfair. This is coming from an agnostic atheist former Christian looking into Islam and orthodox Christianity. I kinda expected more from this channel but clipping and stuff is not the way to go. Mohammed Hijab when debating Christian scholar Joshua Sijuwade always keeps it respectful and they both believe the other to be wrong (hence debate). Don adding context to the scriptures and explaining the necessity behind Jesus's coming as a Christian is relying on concepts of divinity outside human understanding just like the understanding many Muslims have that prophet Muhammad rode on Buraq or that he split the moon. From a physicists perspective (myself), I can tell you the moon shows no sign of splitting in half at any point and goes against scientific observation and can explain how that'd WILDLY change the gravitational pull on tides and earth generally. But I am not gonna nitpick that bc it is understood as a *miracle* in theological understanding, defying confines of what is logically observable and what transpires in daily life. It is inherently the creator intervening and breaking rules he has set. Similarly, this is what is meant by denying the coming of Jesus to die for a Christian's sins. It is questioning if God can perform miracles. There is no reason one can expect God to tamper with physical reality but not logical and conceptual reality of what God or a spirits boundaries are. And this is why I lament some of these conversations bc at the end, there will always tend to be an argument as to who is suspending more disbelief. You both believe in miracles but just have a different threshold as to when you accept them or how much. Also asking someone to address the supposed contradictions in their holy book on the spot is disingenuous and ignores that ppl need to research context prior to just accepting some line of argumentation. Which is why I say the Sheikh was wrong for that. Y'all have to be a bit more even handed in situations like this bc it doesn't make you come off well as someone who saw the whole stream. Basically was almost an ambush.
I used to be a Christian and I was told to stop asking questions with regards to the bible. The flaws are there but Christian's still choose blind faith. I was against Islam because of this. However I started reading the Quran and I can see the beauty of the religion. Although it's not just a religion, it is a way of life. Young Don's argument has many flaws. Bart D. Ehrman clearly points the flaw's out in his video's, where he addresses many frame's of thought when it comes to Christianity. I questioned so many things with Christianity and could never get clear answers because no Christian has the answers. The evidence is clearly there that the bible is flawed. Ahmed Deedat, peace be upon him was a pioneer in pointing out the flaw's. Upon my journey towards Islam, I can say that Muslims maintain their composure and know far more about Christianity than most Leaders of the religion. When Christian's get angry they call it passion. No, to lie is a sin. Be honest and take it like an adult and say that you are angry.
Jesus said “I and the Father are one”. They tried to stone him for blasphemy. He was then crucified and said “it is finished” and defeated death by rising from the grave. prophecy was fulfilled. Many people died for Jesus, knowing he rose. It’s pretty apparent 🤷♂️
Faiyad brother the most logical and rational would be for God to send prophets and scriptures to communicate with humans rather than coming down himself
You can tell Sneako is like thinking "Oh shoot this is making a lot of sense" like When he interrupts Uthman sneakos like "I want to hear what he has to say" genuinely I hope he converts.
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@@equityjustice2695 okay then 5,000 likes and we’ll bring on Shaykh Uthman and Sneako together ;)
@@The3Muslims bro I kid u not I stayed up all night because I got so gassed seeing sheikh uthman and u guys with sneako. Look forward to seeing that again
Simple logic for des t r o ying Christianity is if they believe in Trinity and God Nauzubillah can't be separated from it then before Jesus Christ PBUH was born how did Trinity work then?
Was God and holy Ghost sufficient to sustain themselves?
If that is the case why can't they believe that God can be One and not be dependent.
@@The3Muslims Who created Logic??? Either God is all-powerful and He is lord over logic or not. God can operate within or outside the laws of both logic and nature if it so pleases Him. That's like saying Allah isn't omnipotent because he appeared to Moses in the form of a burning bush and not in his spirit form.
Young Don , dear brother thank you , I have converted to Islam Because of you .
LOLLL mashaAllah brother
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As a Christian interested in Islam , Don’s argument lacked consistency and I think that amongst many things in Christianity has me questioning it .
I suggest getting in touch with a mosque close to you. There's always imams open to help clear up any misconceptions or questions you have.
I suggest you read Christian apologetics books, which is a better method of learning than watching people bicker online.
Dude you need to watch real Christian apologists. Islam is so obviously false it’s ridiculous. Muhammad was a warlord pedo who was born 600 years after Christ. That’s like trusting me to tell you about George Washington (who lived not even 300yrs ago) instead of reading first hand accounts of people that knew him.
@@kairos_fluent The first church fathers admitted to the bible having words added to it. There’s no Christian scholar that can logically answer to the many many contradictions in the bible
@@Hunredbandz I'll make my question more specific - what did Jesus' apostles believe in ?
Explain trinity to a 7 year old & explain Tawhid to a 7 year old kid..
You'll see the difference easily
yeah.. you don't need a superior logic level just to understand what god is.
I Reverted to Islam at 12:30 AM on Saturday. Videos like these just make me even more content in my "decision" although it wasnt a decision, it was a realisation while reading Muhammad's prophecies. I had to revert. I had no choice. Im a white Scottish male, from the Highlands of all places. This wont be easy. But i have no choice.
Alhamdullilah, May Allah continue to bless you brother.
@@mohamedseyni8748 ❤ thank you it means alot
@@kian8595 welcome brother to islam
Alhamdulillah welcome brother
Being a muslim is about living life for having the chance to meet Allah one day in the hereafter , do an experiment and try to wake up for the dawn prayer one day and just prostate and talk to Allah and see how it feels . the most amazing feeling ever
Don Converted me to Islam😂
I can believe that, he is probably giving Dawah indirect. Sort of like making people to accept illogical beliefs.
so you are converted to a religion based on people rather than the book
@@Electricc__ people speak about what the Book teaches
And here we Barbi q Islam
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Faculties of intellect, logic, and reasoning, weren't given to us in vain.
It's always good to remember:
*Emotions. Obscures. Logic.*
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Perhaps it would shed some light onto why we (as Muslims) find it impossible for our preserved scripture (the Holy Qur'an) to be something written by an unlettered (illiterate) Bedouin living in the 7th century Arabian desert.
Perhaps it would shed some light as to why we (as Muslims) wholeheartedly believe that our Holy Scripture is indeed, the
Final Testament (Final Revelation) conveyed through an unlettered Bedouin, whom God The Most Wise had chosen as His final Prophet and final Messenger unto mankind.
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He keeps saying that you guys were breaking the "second commandment" by saying that the Trinity doesn't make any logical sense and it contradicts the bible but he's forgetting that he himself is breaking the first commandment by saying God exists in three parts.
logical inconsistency that cannot be applied in both directions is different from a lie? no.
He said it himself hes 2 month into christianity, why we listening to this christian noob ?
Who created Logic??? Either God is all-powerful and He is lord over logic or not. God can operate within or outside the laws of both logic and nature if it so pleases Him. That's like saying Allah isn't omnipotent because he appeared to Moses in the form of a burning bush and not in his spirit form.
@@Kingrich_777 that's what I'm saying they steal stories from old to suite the quran and chuck it out when it doesn't agree with them. They made a false idol.
Simple logic for des t r o ying Christianity is if they believe in Trinity and God Nauzubillah can't be separated from it then before Jesus Christ PBUH was born how did Trinity work then?
Was God and holy Ghost sufficient to sustain themselves?
If that is the case why can't they believe that God can be One and not be dependent.
Don reminds me of this saying:
“I have never debated with a knowledgeable person, except that I won the debate, and I have never debated with an ignorant person, except that I lost.”
Imam Ash-Shafi`ee (rahmahullah)
iam too dumb to understand this
@@m._aneeq imam shafi ra won every debate except with ignorant people because they dont have any intellect
@@Bot28111 Spot on. Imam shafi ra is a legend and a savage
@@m._aneeq when someone is ignorant they won't agree with you even when you bring evidence logic and proof so they'll keep arguing. When someone is knowledgable they will see when you made a point and admit to it because of how much they know.
You're not dumb btw all of us are learning.
source?
Young Don needs to realise that when someone makes a public claim that a certain religion is false, then he needs to expect and face the clap back, don't escape by saying stuff like "just because you don't understand, doesn't mean it's false"
Don, just like Many Christians, fails to explain the trinity, now that says a lot, and I'm not trying to offend anyone, but if you can't explain something, than you don't understand it, and if you believe in something that you don't even understand, that my friend, is called Blind faith.
Edit : scroll down to see Christians spewing nothing new.
purify your faith not blind faith, blind faith will get you burnt.
no. Just because something is beyond comprehension does not make it false
@@ch4rmeen so you don't have to know who you're worshipping?
well if you read the KJV Bible start to finish the whole trinity makes perfect sense, at least it did to me. And I’m not even Christian lol
@@SprycyProductions kjv? 😂😂
Jazakallah Khair brothers love from Kashmir.
Assalamualaikum akhi, hope you are doing well In Sha Allah!
wa alaikum Salam waraghmatullaahi mubarakaatu from Cape Town South Africa!
Koshur boi warai chiva
Thankyou for recommending me the videos of Dr. Eyad, once again thankyou very much.
As a Christian all my life I’m 40 next year I started looking into Islam ☪️ daily last 6 months I have no doubts Islam is the truth I have never experienced such peace but It has also open up a lot about Christianity that’s been hard to take also .
Go to a nearby mosque, and take your shahadah inshallah
Thats great man
Al hamdulillah that's good news that you've recognised Islam as the truth. Do you mind if I ask whether you have accepted Islam as your religion now? If you haven't yet taken your shahadah but are still interested, I'd plead with you not to delay it further. It is the devil's desire that you never accept Islam and he'll do everything in his power to stop you from doing so, one of his most effective tools is procrastination.
There are a lot of things in my secular life that I thought I knew that have been challenged by reading quran. No doubt it is the truth but it's hard to accept for me as an atheist too haha.
Salaam 3alaikum brother May Allah bless you with imaan a pure heart and May He lead you to Islaam and let Quran be your Guide and The PROPHET MUHAMMED.SALLA ALLAH ALAIHI WA SALLAMA BE YOUR EXAMPLE of man to follow and love.God blessbyou abondantly and keep you and your family from harm.Allah guides whom he loves to ISLAM .
I'm a Muslim revert, I think Don is a great guy, he believes in god but he needs to investigate the truth!
The fact is, you don't even need to give dawah to a Christian because the Bible debunks itself.
Hes christian he doesnt believe in God but in Jesus which is not God but a messenger..
😯!! Are you saying Christianity is a false religion?
@@anasofiamonteiro8551
So many pagans here 😂😂😂😂 keep worshiping your 3 Gods guys but don’t ever justify it
I thought he was a great guy until i saw his arrogance towards the truth when shaykh uthman was speaking to him and after shaykh uthman hanged up he was calling him manipulative etc. And the fact that he attacks islam multiple times without knowing it.
The Bible no way debunks itself the Quran Debunks itself because it validates the Gospel
Faiyad that was beautifully said at the end, we are here to break boundaries to connect to each other, not divide like Islam VS Christianity, so showing love at the end and telling they should talk about it off stream showed magnitude brother. thanks for the upload. gladly a witness of these convos. ❤ to all my People of the Book who act righteous and sacrifice their time and energy to do good. Salam from a Muslim.
The Christian immediately chose to insult the last prophet (Peace and Blessings be upon him) and chose to watch david wood and apostate prophet after this stream.
Allah warned us about them in the Quran, in Al Baqarah, so don't even bother thinking they'll be righteous to us unless we become Christians as well, following their desires, instead of Allah's command.
@@yahiiiaplays1252 I get your point and it would be unlogical to know islam and not convert to it, since it basically adds a new Prophet to the Deen and makes clear logical Rules on how to live life and why. It is actually easy to understand and makes sense. however if I can recall correctly, the people of the book who for some reason had no real contact islam and never had something against it, but still believe in a higher being, believing in christianity, judaism, I can imagine them to getting their deserved reward too. and allah is the most merciful, so who are we to say who comes into paradise and who into jahannam. it is clear and ruled, I know, but lifes and kadr are so very specific to one another, one muslim born in a peaceful area does his deeds, and dies being a proper muslim. then there is the christian, jew born into a hard position full of suffering, hardship and what not, still holding onto a higher being and respecting what encounters them due for them believing into a higher being. maybe they were not supposed to be muslims for some reason allah knows best. I dont say the religions are right, they are not, I am saying there are circumstances in some lifes, that is beyond our understanding. allah knows best.
I think we should go into theory with these things because it sometimes adds a additional understanding of something. I know a christian since I live in EU who showed me a right way and called me out for wrongdings. and I appreciate that. I hope he will convert ot islam, insha allah.
Islam is the truth, there is no doubt. Everything the quran says and the hadiths say are right, straight forward, logical, fascinating...(list could go on forever).
@@serious_sharp Allah can use Christians to correct you. No slave of his is out of his reach. It was most likely not the Christian who corrected you, but Allah himself.
It happens to me too, when disbelievers or circumstances all come to my benefit or to correct me. Allah guides whom he wills and verily, he holds Absolute Dominion over all of us.
But I would also like to add, that many Christians by their own books rules are going to Jahannam. For example, in the bible, it is written that if a child is born out of wedlock, he and ten generations after will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.
When my Lord, Allah, and their Lord, Allah, judges them on their own book, he'll throw most of them into the Hellfire. They're not even allowed to eat pork or get drunk. This is the Bible, the Gospel, not even the Quran.
And saying that the Most Merciful begot a son is a grave crime. It almost causes the Heavens to split and the mountains to collapse. And most of them pray to the Messiah, not to the Lord who created mankind. All their deeds are made to vanish, because they did it for other than Allah.
If no warner came to them, they will be tested on Judgement Day when an Angel comes with a roaring flame and calls for a disbeliever to enter it, if he trusts in the Most Merciful. Allah knows best, but Allah is very clear on what he thinks of being associated with others.
This is contradictory though. There are several videos that show don on one side and one of the brothers at the other side with a vs in between. Clearly it shows a side vs another. I do agree with his message subhana’allah
It’s soo funny someone claiming that Islam is false when the bible itself has gone through soo many changes by priests and bishops etc etc at there’s still dozens of mistakes within , yet they see this as “ gods words” and think it’s their salvation. May allah guide them
As Allah said in the Quran, the signs are clear before them. They are just so deluded.
They were indoctrinated from a young age, to believe God can be 3 in 1. It’s hard for them to understand it’s illogical.
“The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger. ˹Many˺ messengers had ˹come and˺ gone before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They both ate food.[256] See how We make the signs clear to them, yet see how they are deluded ˹from the truth˺!” (Quran 5:75)
Christians believe the Bible is divinely inspired. Not “the word of God”. Muslims make the claim the their book is “Gods word” which is ridiculous. How can you ever prove that lmao. Also, let’s trust a man born 600 years after Christ to tell us about him better than the first hand accounts in the Bible😆. Muslim are lost but I will pray for them.
@@soccerislife6108 we have proof it’s from god 😂😂🤣 it hasn’t been changed ONCE haha . Ohhh so you admit the bible not gods words ?? Okay you’re one step closer to the truth . There are miracles in the Quran that prove it’s correct. They found a page from the Quran from the time of the prohet and it’s the exact same as like today. You say Muslims are lost, but we worship one god . You worship 2 haha. You worship Jesus and the father. You are a pagan religion . We worship one god just like Jesus preached and just like every single messenger sent to man preached . Did you know the word Christian didn’t even exsist at the time of Jesus haha. You’re whole religion is flawed in countless ways. You follow the religion of that liar paul and not of Jesus. We Muslims follow Jesus and pray to the god Jesus prayed too.
@@soccerislife6108 humans are funny creatures, they want to know the truth but reject it because of their pride and arrogance. God says in the Quran that he will never guide someone who’s heart is full of pride. You even admitted the bible ain’t gods words haha , it’s written and been rewritten by a bunch of nobodies and you all believe these people 😂😂 soo ridiculous
That's what you call "blind faith".
what's interesting... is that when Shaykh Uthman made his best points and laid down an explanation of islam, this guy was on his phone, headphones off, even left the room for a sec...
"indeed, you do not guide whom you like. Rather, Allah guides whom he wills".
Yea thankfully he saved don from listening to the bullshit these liars have to say close one smh
@@Scorpio-king1112 yeah 3 in 1 vs 1, which one is the bs?
Id rather see sheikh uthman educate sneako than seeing don who blindly believes in Christianity
i love how people someone blindly believe in christianity but most of ya'll guys says that the bible talks about your prophets. lol if the bible fake and if jesus was not god. do you understand that would mean your prophet would be a false one.
@@fcchannel6162 the Bible is corrupt, not fake. At one point it was perfect until humans changed it
@@madaxwayne if you never seen it or read it how do you know it ever existed. give me a page or a sentence from this lost book.
@@madaxwayne then again if you don't need it why do your people keep saying it then. if the bible that's not the original bible why do they keep saying that jesus predicted your prophet.
@@fcchannel6162 We aren't saying the bible is completely false, we're saying it has been altered and is not in its original state, there are contradictions and incorrect statements within but still some truth to be found within.
When Christians try to explain the Trinity I need an Aspirin.
I need a redbbull so I can fly away when I get a headache. 🤣
Same as when muslims try to explain how their god has 2 right hands and a shin. 😂🤯
As a Christian, I agree.
@@Transfixion ,
Sure. 🤥😄 Another abdool posing as a christian or ex-christian.
@@stians.6912 Then why don't you give us a full explanation of the trinity, Stian? Please bless us with your knowledge.
John 5:30
"By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just,for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me"
Jesus is literally the prophet
“You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. John 14:28
If Jesus (as) is part of the Trinity and is God, no one part should lack. God sent Islam to set things straight with this deviant creation manipulating His revelations for personal gain. Salvation is not determined by accepting a human sacrifice for your sins, the Mayans and other civilizations that died thought the same. God forgives if one is sincere
This is such a beautiful verse that shows clearly that Jesus is a prophet of God. I love how prophets in the old testament are referred to as sons of god, but in the new testament, for Jesus they take it literally lol.
@@TheAnonYmouse Jesus was playing the role of the servant😭I don't even think He wanted the people to know he was the Messiah yet.
@@Kingrich_777
This is the Bible, saying that NO HARM will come to Jesus, the son of Mary, which refutes the lies of him suffering on the cross or being killed. It also confirms that Allah took Jesus up to himself and is giving him a long life before his second coming!
Psalm 91:10-16
New International Version
10
no harm will overtake you,
no disaster will come near your tent.
11
For he will command his angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways;
12
they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.
13
You will tread on the lion and the cobra;
you will trample the great lion and the serpent.
14
“Because he[a] loves me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him;
I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.
15
He will call on me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble,
I will deliver him and honor him.
16
With long life I will satisfy him
and show him my salvation.”
@@dani4157 then what does that tell you?
Mash’aAllah! Jazakum Allahu Khiran for having this respectful conversation! Looking forward to having Sheikh Uthman and Sneako insh’aAllah!
May Allah (SWT) guide him to the Straight path Ameen!
Wait sheikh uthman is going to meet sneako again?
Don don't understand
God is eternal is literally quoted in the book
his concept of God is different from Islam and Bible?
thanks holy Roman stabby sword church.
@@laveerose if theirs no Holy Spirit then there can’t be Jesus then according to what u said
I don't think young don knows how the word "and" works. "Today I had cookies and milk." Does that mean my cookies and milk are now one? 🤣
Cookiemilk
when you bring that up they say "God works in mysterious ways"
Jesus quite literally said, "I and the Father are One. WHOEVER HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER ALSO."
So stop using that fallacious argument. It makes you trinity-denying Muslims a little selective in what you perceive as truth. Especially since yall are the ones on Don's backside for not reading his Bible enough. Seems like yall only seem to read the verses in the gospels that leave room for your anti-Christian beliefs.
@@Kingrich_777 Jesus also said
Oh good teacher! Why do you call me good?' Jesus answered. 'No one is good--except God alone. Luke 18:19
What did Jesus say to Mary at the tomb : do not touch me, I'm yet to ascend to my father and your father, my God and your God. John 20:17
That they may know you the father the only true god and Jesus christ whom you have sent. John 17-3
Now you clearly have a problem. All those claims you made are from the gospel of John (Only) the other gospels don't mention those. Either Jesus in the Bible is contradicting himself or the authors of the bible are liars. The latter makes more sense.
@@Kingrich_777 The scripture explains itself; it seems like you're the one that has selectively read the verses of the gospels.
Later in the same gospel, John 17:
11 And now I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them in your name that you have given me, so that *they may be one, as we are one.*
20 “I ask not only on behalf of these but also on behalf of those who believe in me through their word, 21 that *they may all be one. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us,* so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 The glory that you have given me I have given them, so that *they may be one, as we are one,* 23 *I in them and you in me, that they may become completely one,* so that the world may know that you have sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.
Jesus says the disciples and in fact all who believe in Jesus are one *JUST AS* Jesus and the Father are one, and they are all in each other. If Jesus being one with the Father means they're coequal partners in a Godhead, and can not mean anything else, then they need to scoot over and make room for all the believers in the world to join them as coequal Gods.
I like the host , he is very honest and straight to point, not cutting any corner! Weldone dude!
"God came to earth in a human form, got born, no longer become all knowing, become 3 but 1, and then 1 die for all of human sin"
Don: That makes sense to me
"God is an all powerful being chose a human as a prophet to deliver his message"
Don: That dont make sense to me
So then who was Jesus taking to on the cross when he said “father why Hathor forsaken me” was he talking to himself ?
@@meowthecat9192 Ah Trinity is a Rabbit hole.
@@user-fy9el2zu5g it's an abyss, once stare at it, it stare at you back with endless descend because it is a hole. nice point tho
@Original Blizzardhawk so he didn't die for your sins if that was a decoy
Jesus being a prophet just like Moses, Abraham, Noah etc. makes the most logical sense. If god wanted to come on earth as his own creation, why wouldn’t he have done it earlier in human history?
MashaAllah, you held it down brothers.
May Allah guide them all 💗
Jesus Christ loves you and died for your sin ✝️
@@sj5459 no he didn’t
Allahumma ameen🤲🏿
@@sj5459
God scarificing Himself in humen from to save God creation from God makes no sense☺️
@@sj5459 isa alayhi salam will come and reject Christians like u
The thing with Don is that he gets too emotional so he don’t even want to listen and goes against everything that’s being said to him.
I was a huge fan of him up until he said bad things about Islam…
May Allah swt guide him
Hes Christian noob just 2 months in prolly hasnt finish reading bible yet
they misapropriated his fitrah
@@TMNmedia I get what your saying but that’s not a bad thing ?
@@TMNmedia the fact that he's a "noob christian" and is still willing to debate whoever on the topic, means hes only going to get stronger
@@framework333 no it means he doesn’t even know his own religion nor the stories in it and still wants to debate and when he loses he gets emotional and denies everything. His ignorance is not gonna make him stronger
Seems like Don needs to read more of the Bible to learn what God tells us about Himself to really see the contradiction between what God tells us about Himself and what He believes.
this sad man is following his salve masters religion
How is reading more of the Bible gonna make him come to that conclusion? If anything, he's going to believe more. I mean there are great christian theologians who know the bible up and down and they know it is not a contradiction, because they understand context and don't read it just to try to find contradictions and misinterpret the Bible like atheists or some Muslims do.
@@mahirwemoses8007 You mean this Christian scholarship? You have no idea what the theologians themselves say let alone scholarship. Ur argument is since they are experts and remain Christians they must know something we don't. Not a logical point mate.
The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such*, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”*-(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.
“The Christian Bible, including the New Testament, has no Trinitarian statements or speculations concerning a Trinity deity” The Encyclopedia Britannica, 15th edition, 1985
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective*.”*-(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.
In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”-(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.
Allah says in the Quran that the our Gospel is good and we should judge by it. Why are you going against your god?
@@ivanjuarez1160 send the verse
"You're wanting to Appropriate womanhood and turn it into a costume you can wear"- Matt
Similarly, you're wanting to appropriate the 'one God' and turn it into a costume 3 entities can wear. In both cases logical reasoning forbids you to do so.
In the end, trinity is as good a concept to describe God as 'birthing parent' is to describe a man.
The Trinity means three persons, one God.
3 persons, 1 being.
@@flourishomotola5306 isn't a person a being by himself/herself?
@@kakarote100 Within humanity, every person is simultaneously one being, but that does not mean that every conceivable being must be constricted to one person. And even within humanity, there are people that experience multiple personality syndrome, however the human mind is not great enough to withstand such a phenomenon.
@@flourishomotola5306 but we are not talking about 3 'personalities' .... but rather 3 'persons', hence 3 beings. see the difference?
What differentiates one person from the other are their natures. The Father has God nature (All Knowing), whereas Jesus has human nature (limited knowledge). Complete knowledge (God nature) and limited knowledge (human nature) can't exist side by side in one being, if it can, can you describe how?
This is amazing, all young people in a podcast
God being depicted as a white man is prefect because it’s symbolic on how black people in Africa became Christian
No, as white people put pictures on Jesus and a blond hair blue eye man. If you go to Kenya churches or the see the busses the ride, they have pictures of Jesus as a white man. Islam totally is against that, you can’t find pictures of Prophet Muhammad anywhere.
This don guy sounds exactly like i did 4 years ago. When i just found a belief and became so arrogant in myself that no matter how true the counter argument to mine was, i just ignored it, or just shut that down by trying to focus on something else. May allah (swt) guide him.
I am a guy from Russia, very shortly InsaAllah I will explain to you why Christianity cannot be the true religion.
1. Christians claim that God can do whatever he wants and that we have no right to question his decisions. He can become a man, forget about the Hour, give up for a while his attributes that make him God, die in the end, because he is God and everything is within his power. I personally do not understand why then God could not become a sacred cow, which the Hindus worship, or transform into a butterfly, insect, leaf or stone. After all, he can do anything. Why can't God, being human, marry and have children of gods who "choose to be human" and give up their divine attributes. this is absurd. God only does what is in keeping with His majesty and attributes. He will never become a cow, a worm, a fish or a man, because this contradicts his Essence, which is described in the Old Testament.
2. The concept of God. In Christianity, God is triune and consists of three persons. Father, son and holy spirit. They are all equal and are one God, but at the same time the Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit. A very strange concept that is impossible for a thinking person to understand. The problem with this concept is that, being the central and most important dogma of the creed, we cannot find it explicitly in the Bible itself. What confuses me even more is that the prophets of the Old Testament never preached the trinity of God, but only his unity. Noah, Abraham, Moses and other prophets spoke and preached one God, not a trinity. The replacement of one God by a triune God occurred only in Christianity. Other Abrahamic religions such as Judaism and Islam are religions of pure monotheism.
EXACTLY
Fr
first we were made in gods direct image so your saying its beneath god to take the form of that which I in his image and compare it to animals and insects do you get that logic
and second maybe they didnt see them as three distinct beings but as they are one god
I've been waiting for this!
End of the day .. CANT CHANGE A PERSON AT ALL !!
Don’s skill to dodge questions that disprove him is incredible. « So What you’re saying is…. » then goes ahead and change the subject completly😭😭
May Allah ﷻ guide Sneako and Young Don. Ameen!
He mocked the prophet after talking
to y’all and said some evil stuff . May Allah break his back or guide him
Where brother?
Where did he do this? Dissappointing if it’s true
Don is correct tho. Islam is a false religion jus face the facts.
@@Eziopct Twitter
ameen
The concept of god becoming human and holding his godly attributes still doesn’t make sense 🤷
You don’t need to be a sheep to lead a herd of sheep. You just need to send a Shepherd.
And you cannot have a square circle. If god becomes a human he isn't God anymore. If he stays god he can send prophets that is what they meant by a squared circle because you can't be fully human and fully God
@@laveerose if they are all different that means your faith is polytheistic and you worship three different gods.
@@inspexter9761 god can just morph himself into a human, he is still god
@@inspexter9761 this is what don was referencing when he said you're imposing your own limitations on what god can and cant do. god could be a square circle by simultaneously being a square and a circle, that is what it means to be all power, all creating, all knowing. God could create a human from his being and still have said human be connected to him. Jesus claimed that he was of god and was speaking for god and following gods instructions, jesus never claimed to be the entirety of god himself
@@remotAge Jesus never said he was God. Don't include a righteous Prophet into your own blasphemous ideology.
Alhamdulillah... Islam has such clear proof. Truth is Truth!
I had a Christian roommate that used to hold bible sturdies online almost every week.(all members seamed to go to different churches)
So.. they used to pick chapters and verses out of the Bible, read them out loud and educate each other… what always ended up happening was, disagreeing with one another, interpreting verses wrongly, some saying but my bible says something else, it’s this… no it’s that.. (one saying one thing and the other saying the opposite 🤨) and even when a verse was crystal clear with no ambiguity ( ie He went to the market) subhana’Allah they always had trouble with it, yet it’s sooo clear (like Alice lost in wonderland)
I only had 1 question, how is it that they are not bothered about having different wordings and meanings?, rather they always ended up saying all wordings are correct even when the’re clear contradictions in each (they always justified everything)
In one part where they speak about Adam after eating the forbidden fruit and God saying “Adam..Adam.. where are you?”
One of them asked. “HOW COME GOD DOES NOT KNOW WHERE ADAM IS, YET HE IS ALL KNOWING”?
I wish I recorded the mambo Jambo each of them answered with (answers that made No Sense at all and had no relation to the question asked.😏🙄😔 really sad and disappointing how they use their intellect.
Alhamdulillah thumma Alhamdulillah for the guidance Allah has given us.
Alhamdulillah for fr sis 😭 I wish u recorded that aswell lol
God asking adam who's obviously in the guarding God was testing Adam
God always give free will, that's why you have the right to make your choice God asked adam that question but adam answered wrong if God was unable to know the location of adam hw on earth will he know that adam was lying use your brain
@@Wasola_code what are you talking about kid? God was asking where he was. He should've already known where he was.
@@kelvanorolle761it's not about knowing the location of adam, God is aware of everything after adam committed the first sin God gave him a chance to come clean, first God tested Adam , asked him giving him a chance God might have planned to forgive Adam so he tested him asking that question and Adam said the first lie, nit believing in God is like saying complex circuit like your phone can exist for no reason on earth without being built by a human there are no contradictions in the bible, it's the only book that can teach you how to live a perfect fulfilling life
Whomever smacked Yung Don with all this misinformation really did a number on the poor guy. He'll be spending years trying to figure this out only to find that what he needed to do is study and research for himself.
True but also Allah guides who He wills. We can only make dua for him
@@SpecialAgentTinkyWinky I only say this because I've gone through the process of figuring everything out from ignorance. You have to be completely honest with yourself to be able to do so and that's harder than it sounds.
LMAAOO SERIOUS BRAINWASHING. THATS HOW THEY GOT THE CRUSADERS. THE DEVIL IS REAL MANIPULATIVE
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a physical son!*
To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word (power) of God! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the man Jesus and the man Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
@@tomolo2619 No
I would ask him “can god choose to be weak”
U know he’d say “if he wants to” 😂 🤦♀️
@@zidane8452 that stupid
@@zidane8452 _yes because he's God and can do whatever he wants_
So if God wants to, He can cease to exist?
@@myuzairy7324 😂
Don keeps saying:"if you don't understand then it doesn't make it false" but how to understand something that doesn't make any sense?
this types of videos reverts people to islam , thank you for these entertaining knowledgeable videos the3muslims i pray for you guys jannah tul furdus
You guys, should invite Brother Mansur in next livestream. He knows christianity very well and arguments against it
Thanks for this video this made me believe in Christianity more thanks for this video 🙏
Young Don, the word "and" is used to show that they are together in purpose, but separate entities. The prophets are unified in purpose to spread the word of God, but they are separate entities. The trinity on the other hand is just another form of polytheism.
Men, with all due respect, this guy's mind is indeed in a basket, like all Christians
Bro bring this chap to the Arena, let's have a dialogue with brother hamza
Bro you have no doubts about Islam yet follow a prophet who sinned was possesed killed people raided caravans consumated with aisha at 9 waged wars and bought and sold slaves.
@@mtttt592 this is your opinion based on your ignorance. I do respect your right of opinion
But in these days of high-tech, ignorance is a choice... Which you chose..
@@zoezoom110 no your position is based of ignorance. I'm a Palestinian ex muslim. I know more about Islam than you do
@@zoezoom110 you know what the penalty for leaving islam right? Oh right just justify it or say I'm lying
@@mtttt592 🤣🤣🤣well well well, I know, to be EX MUSLIM is a new business 🤣🤣🤣all your arguments you brought has already debunked very long time ago, so don't act as if you've discover pearls out of nothing.. Plz go and educate yourself.
I don't know why Muslims argue with this guy about Christianity. He lacks knowledge about the Bible and the Quran.
I watched the discussion between him and sheikh Uthman, the guy lacks knowledge and he is very argumentive. He himself said he is only been practising Christianity for two months. He needs to study his new found religion in depth, and then come back to have a proper debate, until then we are just wasting our time.
I cant wait till yall do another one of these episodes great info being taught here 💯
This is a copy from another comment I made but changed slightly:
We’re not trying to fully understand God using our limited understanding, we’re trying to understand via what has supposedly been revealed to Don in his Bible (in your belief the word of God):
Should’ve told him that you’re not the one defining God, but using what was “revealed” in their Bible.
Meaning God defined himself as having X, Y, Z attributes according to A, B, C verses in their own Bible.
1 Samuel 15:19, Numbers 23:10, etc. show that God is not a man
1 John 1:8-10 states God cannot be in the presence of Sin, so how would Jesus take upon sin if he is God
1 Timothy 6:16 states God is immortal, immortality literally means cannot die. However Jesus dies according to their belief. The answer is usually his humanity died, but then that means that God did not die for your sins (well God is unable to die anyway so either way it’s a paradox)
The claim for the divinity of Jesus comes in ambiguous verses all of which can apply to so many others
The Bible itself has add additions that have been removed in the NIV or NKJV, prominent verses like the famous 1 John 5:7, “For there are three who bear witness in heaven, the father, the word and the Holy Spirit and these three are one” is literally not found in the earliest complete manuscript and was therefore removed b/c it is literally a later addition and had to be changed…
John 17:20-21:
20 “I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, 21 so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me.
These verses above were used by Don the last time he talked saying that Jesus and the Father are one, therefore this proves his divinity. But those who follow are also one with them, so are they also God, is it billions of members of the God-head now?
If you try to claim it’s b/c he’s the Son of God, then all righteous folk are sons of God according to the Old Testament (Psalms 82:6), including emphatically so many former prophets. If the word you want to use is Begotten then David was also a Begotten son according to the Old Testament (Psalms 2:7 and Psalms 89:27).
Jesus had no father claim therefore his Father is God, then Adam had no father or mother, Eve had no Father or Mother either. Adam is also THE son of God in the New Testament’s lineage of Jesus (which have two different lineages…)
These same claims for divinity can be applied to so many different people holistically looking at the Bible.
Anyway that is my understanding and there are many more definitions “God himself” in their belief gives in their scripture which made me unable to believe in Christianity.
This is the Bible, saying that NO HARM will come to Jesus, the son of Mary, which refutes the lies of him suffering on the cross or being killed. It also confirms that Allah took Jesus up to himself and is giving him a long life before his second coming!
Psalm 91:10-16
New International Version
10
no harm will overtake you,
no disaster will come near your tent.
11
For he will command his angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways;
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they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.
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You will tread on the lion and the cobra;
you will trample the great lion and the serpent.
14
“Because he[a] loves me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him;
I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.
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He will call on me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble,
I will deliver him and honor him.
16
With long life I will satisfy him
and show him my salvation.”
@@yahiiiaplays1252 Satan also used that verse to tempt Jesus to jump off the temple
honestly this debate is straight up dumb . i could read whatever the other book muslim read is and find “contradictions” too , yet you would not believe that . end of the day religion is about faith and belief dont turn that stuff into debates for views and clicks . lemme read my bible you read your book and we’ll see in the afterlife who’s right or wrong
@@yahiiiaplays1252 hehe was pslam of david or Jesus Christ ?
How do you explain this sir
◄ 1 Timothy 3:16 ►
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory
That “i and the father are one” verse easily breaks down when you bring john17:20-23
Not only is Jesus praying but also saying those that believe in Jesus and the father are one with them…
In the mind of a Christian those that believe in Jesus and the father are God then 🫤🫤🫤
doesn’t the quran say man was made out of clay in one verse a drop of sperm in another and a clot of blood in another one ? also there are different verses that say several people were the first muslim . also the way you interpret that verse it’s not that the father and jesus are the same they are part of the holy trinity therefore they are one . just keep believing what you believe in there is no need to question another religion if you so strongly believe in yours
@@rmelo2382 adam was made of clay and then God breathed soul into this man, and thats What was meant by created men from clay, as for the sperm on sperm, i think u mean and created the rest of men from sperm, which is not wrong.
@@shbh0 Well sad brother
If i say "Me AND my brother are going to the park" it means me and my brother are two separate entities. Now you might say we share common traits and you would be right, we are both going to the park. But if you say "THE ONLY TRUE GOD *AND* Jesus Christ whom You have sent" that means that Jesus Christ is excluded for the Godhood of God, it as simple as that.
Conflicts are arisen through mainly emotions, whether someone is considered ‘right’ or considered ‘wrong’. If we feel strongly about someone or something and IF we couldn’t control these emotions, all hell WILL break loose.
Allahumma barik the intro is serious no games played with Faiyad... how can God be self sufficient when He is in need of the trinity.
If god came as jesus and died for our sins.. Then why does god need to forgive us for our sins?
Because god is perfect, we used to be perfect but we fell from perfection, now the only way to get back to perfection is god getting us back to perfection since his only one that is perfect and no one else ...
@@LifeAndTimelessArt how can something perfect become imperfect? Thats sounds like a paradoxical statement.
If i was perfect then i could never be or become imperfect..
Or i was never really perfect in the first place..
someone without corruption/sin/death needs to face death so he can be restored back to the perfection once again...
@@LifeAndTimelessArt sorry now you have completely lost me... Someone without corruption or sin is already perfect.. So why would he have to die to restore perfection.. Now I think you shouldnt reply because you are making yourself sound very silly
Assalamo alaykom , i wonder how someone who doesn't know a sh** about his religion , can judge or criticize Islam , really it's the end of time .
Facts
If all 3 of them live eternally then how come Jesus died on the cross??!!!
People in the chat saying Sheikh Uthman is a scholar. He is not an Islamic 'scholar' simply a student of knowledge...
Just to clear up the eternal question:
John 1:1-5 - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."
John 1:14 "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."
the problem is that he argues from a baseless position, because you can make that “it’s because you don’t understand it” claim with any religion/ideology - so wouldn’t the Creator make it extremely simple and clear for his Creation? Islam has detailed evidences for its traditions, and the Qur’an makes claims that it is THE truth and asks for others to try and disprove it but alhamdulillah no one can or will
Don conflates not questioning the intentionality of god and questioning the claims of the Bible.
If you want to equate the two, you first have to prove why the Bible is reliable source of information and that it makes a truthful claim of being from god.
My advice for what it's worth, you will reach far far further to Muslims with using Grace vs refuting or debating. They need something tangible, so give it to them..
Love them so hard they can't even understand why. Cast your own Grace their direction and display a more than sincere example of your love to them in a method where you can be witnessed using your faith and love so hardcore that it's undeniable. Like this, if anyone anywhere witnessed your own conviction exerted so hard, you love something and do something so hard that others are left with a perception of feeling as though their missing out on what you've displayed so hard. You believe in something so hard that others are left feeling as though their missing out on it... you must exert your faith and your own Grace with as much power as you individually can conjure... display it undeniably....
Just my opinion. Easily discarded untill one sees my own display of my own relationship with God. If you were to see how I love him back, I assure any one anywhere would be compelled to at the very least simply make their own attempt to either find the same for their own self or test their own faiths against what they've witnessed to see if it compared....
Don't stop... any measure of anyone needs you more than ever now...
this comment is pretty hardcore just it's self. I believe I can't see any angle to disagree
That's fire
100% truth
I haven't anything to add. Boy need a church and microphone
A church.lol.
We as Black people forget it was the SLAVE MASTER who introduced us to Christianity
02:58 The word „and“ CAN in fact be used as a separation.
Example: „I greeted every single one of my friends and Daniel.“
In this example I didn’t separate Daniel from the people I’ve greeted, but I’ve separated him from my friends, meaning he IS NOT one of them.
May Allah guide Don, this whole thing afterward made me lose respect for Don especially after he insulted Prophet Muhammad (SAW), he played a huge part in my childhood with his animations and now his videos talking about the modern problems in society like feminism, abortion, LGBTQ+ agenda etc but he's simply on the wrong path and completely shut out Shaykh Uthman when trying to discuss the very obvious issues in the bible that even Christian scholars have said it's corrupted beyond repair, Allah guide us all.
yo when did he insult the prophet Muhammad SAW?
@@yakamashii7039 in the chats probably
Same bro.
@@zidane8452 Allah means God so asking God for guidance is more fitting when u can't even agree on who God is. I'd never worship a man as God tho...
@@yakamashii7039 look in the comments of his video on this stream he called Prophet Muhammad (SAW) a pedophile who raped Aisha which is farther from the truth as there's no indication and no documentation whatsoever that he raped any woman as Aisha herself expressed a lot of love for him and obviously in today's society it would be rape but 1400 years the age of consent was after the age of puberty, it's obvious he looked up some biased Christian source for this type of information.
I love Jesus( P.B.U.H)and in islam we know he is coming back. As a Muslim... and even just common sense ...God is untouchable and doesn't need to prove himself to no One.. Us weak humans need God he does Not need us.....
I just want to know according to this young man, did Jesus pretend to die? did he pretend to feel pain? and is he in hiding? Plus Jesus (P.B.U.H)himself in the original text said He is not God...and can do nothing of himself.. He also said he has No knowledge of the last day .Esa (A.S.) (Jesus.) also said there was another named A'hmed to come..
I know Jesus had a miraculous birth since Mary Peace and blessings upon her
was a virgin when the angel was sent to blow the soul into her and remained a virgin after delivering, Prophet Jesus Peace and Blessings upon him.
I don't believe in the creation but the Creator Allah (La ilaha'illah)(God) who created miracles some of which we still do not know...
So Adam the first human that was created with neither a Mother or a Father sounds more 🤔 miraculous of a creation than Jesus who atleast had a Mother...
People really need to start thinking and digging deep instead of believing without questioning...
Since Adam (A.S) all the way to all the Prophets were created it's been the same answer Allah is our creator and all of us even the Prophets were created to worship him and him alone...
So No Jesus wasn't praying to himself.
No Jesus doesn't know what day the end of times is (Judgement day).
Jesus never died and yes will be coming back. So if as Christians claim he died for their sins Why would he come back to die again but this time Only reserects on the day of Judgement as the rest of us as human and Jinn kind. On Judgement day we all run to Jesus P.B.U.H to save us but he can't....What will save us is if we believed and worshipped in Allah alone.
Allah will forgive us for everything except 1 thing if we worshiped anything other than him.. the Almighty, the All Knowing the Creator of the heavens and the earth and every single thing in the universe...
Alhimdulilah for the most beautiful religion and guidance that with No doubt No errors and all the answers the Quran el Kareem . Allah's word.
Young Don is a perfect embodiment of blind faith....
What i basically got from this conversation is the 3 muslims explaining to don that there cant be a square circle. Don is arguing how it can be possible
Guys, always try to ask these two most logical questions to a christian.
1) If Jesus died for all our sins, what's the point of Judgement day?
2) All the prophets came with the same message and commandment, why do u only choose to believe the only thing that goes against all prophets and commandments? Why not choose the most updated version?...which u prefer in gadgets n phones, but not in the case of God n prophets.
The answer in the first one is The Judgement day also named as "The Second Coming" and "The End Times" is named because God is gonna finished what he planned for the World and Us people since the beginning.And it's by defeating Satan and Evil for good.He isn't just gonna let us all deal with devil forever.Once the perfect time has come.All the people will leave this imperfect evil word to go to their real deserving places.Either Heaven or Hell.
The 2nd question is ez and just a no brainer..Because Islam is a false teaching.Christianity proves more and makes more sense😊
@joshmunsayac9738 more since huh 😂 All the Gospels can't even agree if Jesus God or the son of God
Matthew mark luke john all say he's a prophet
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Matthew 21:11
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And the crowds said, “This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth of Galilee
Luke 4:24
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Truly, I say to you, no prophet is acceptable in his hometown
Mark 6:3-4
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Then they scoffed . . . . They were deeply offended and refused to believe in him. Then Jesus told them, “A PROPHET is honored everywhere except in his own hometown and among his relatives and his own family”
John 12:49-50
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For I did not speak on my own initiative, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak. I know that His commandment is eternal life; therefore the things I speak, I speak just as the Father has told me
John 8:28
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So Jesus said, "When YOU lift up the Son of MAN, then you will know that I am he, and I do nothing on my own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father TAUGHT me
John 6:14
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After the people saw the sign Jesus performed, they began to say, “Surely this is the PROPHET who is to come into the world
John 7:16
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So Jesus answered them and said, "My teaching is NOT mine, but his who sent me"
He even leaves ah reminder for the disbelievers that think he's god or the son of god
Matthew 7:22-23
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Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles? ' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!
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The christian guy is all feelings no facts. Doesn’t even try to be logical and rational. Anyone who doesn’t have HIS understanding is wrong and he keept spamming the second commandment.
Ask yung don ,If someone have perfect health he never was sick in his life ever and one day he got sick can we say that person have never been sick? Same thing with being eternal and all knowing for ever , you cant die or not know something otherwise it wont fit the description of eternal and all knowing anymore
You should do a podcast with IceCold JT.
Love the athan app, i had it before yall mentioned it, and its such a wonderfull app
1v6 is still wild that’s a jump
Deep down Sneako knows what he did 😂
It is not what sneako did but what don did to himself
@@jayantonio4487 what did Don do to himself?
@@kashmike101 argued without having any knowledge then freaking out and denying when proven wrong
@@robthebob4586 How was he proven wrong? I think Don is only mad at Sneako’s condescending tone
@@kashmike101 Sneako didnt speak at all and only called out Don when he started interrupting in the debate.
the proof of the bible is the bible very convincing as an argument 🤔
He makes the point of "and" including Jesus. Grammatically that doesnt make sense.
2 commas are used to specify the farther as ", the only true God," This is done two times, after the farther and after Jesus.
If "and" links two things, surely those two things are different.
" the father, the only true God, and Jesus, whom you have sent"
I mean even if he were granted that jesus and the father are the only true god
then that means the holy spirit is not true god and the trinity collapses
These christians be aruging against jesus
@@iledawn9282 Not a single unequivocal verse exists of the trinity.
As a Muslim brother thank you finally these people talk about islam without knowing anything thank you to all 3 of you brothers
My question is if Jesus is a God in human form so to who does Jesus(A.S) pray as mentioned in the Bible? It's like one being is asking for help and bowing before another being who is more powerful than him.
Allahu Akbar
Luke 18:19
“Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good-except God alone.
God made the Son of Man after a long time of dark years where people could not be saved(Old Testament. Even back then God was more strict, and didn’t want to have the embodiment of Jesus to hold hands with sinners at the start) Because of this, Jesus is the savior. I think God really wanted us to live in eternal peace, but wanted us to see how far we can take “knowledge”. He loves us so he gave us what he knew we wanted. We truly wanna be like God and have powers like making a car with no effort. So the gift of life is everyone’s single lives and how different they are.
@@kryptic5007 i dont think you can make such bold claims and say God sent everyone to hell prior to Jesus christ pbuh or that they could not be saved.
There were righteous people amongst them too and Jesus christ comes from their lineage he isnt a greek man.
He also stated he came for lost sheep of israel and called the non jew woman a dog for asking for help. Its in your bible.
You can preach as much as you like proving jesus to be god when he explicitly says otherwise isnt your only problem dear.
You have clear errors and contradictions in the biblical narrative so for example the main one comes from paul whose teachings lead christians to trinity his very own main event had contradiction
Paul vision on road to damascus has 3 contradictory accounts in the bible Acts 9:3-8, Acts 22:6-11, Acts 26.13-19
They had 1 job to do and even messed up there.
We believe Jesus christ was a messiah he was divinely inspired he was a prophet and messenger of God.
You just dont have evidence for who wrote the bible. The scriptures were tampered and God saved his word as it cannot be tempered with and gave Quran through an ishmaelite prophet which was foretold in book of Genesis.
Quran is your final testament which is preserved by the promise of God
@@187a3 You’re the one who’s uneducated “dear” lol. I thought you had a little background on the Old Testament, but apparently not for probably obvious reasons. But the majority of people did not get saved before the birth of Christ. Humans were damned to hell. Some knew it while most didn’t, and it made them even more barbaric. Noah was spoken to and saved by God both from the flood, and eternally for worshipping him.
Those like Enoch, Elijah, and his bloodline before and after him, and the Israelites were saved. They had no law book, and the pressures of the world’s influences made them evil (knowledge).
And many different people contributed to both testaments, yes but in an accurate time frame. The first 300 years and no manuscript bs is due to people always wanting answers to deem this wrong. You don’t know what happened during those 300 years. Nobody does. That period could’ve been a sacred time that we will never know about. Deuteronomy 29:29
the Dead Sea scrolls, and many ancient bibles were found having the same word for word scriptures.
And please don’t tell me this Jesus calling a woman a dog thing is the story of the Canaanite woman? First, that’s misleadingly not true. It’s Matthew 15:21-28.
He tests the woman’s faith by not responding to her first impression of begging After saying his duty was to Israel, she still shows faith and mercy by saying “Help me!”
After this, He says “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.” Implying that the Word she’s been taught is clearly not the same, not willing to help, States his duty to a specific people. This lady doesn’t know Jesus’s special feelings for Israel, even naming Jacob after it.
She understands that the food’s purpose is the same for everyone. It comes from God’s table and everyone should be part of it. What makes the children special, when most of them will be evil anyway?
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He lost the debate when accepting the term "parts" and being "contingent on 3 parts". The Christian position is that it is the essence that makes YHWH God, and that essence is shared between 3 persons, a person being essence plus accidents according to John of Damascus. Alhamdulillah I don't believe any of this but I think it's always good to steel-man the position rather than present a false position.
Claiming that Islam is a false religion isn't a bold claim, it's been proven over and over
Never been proven it's funny cause all the other religions have been exposed for their contradictions and loop holes but islam has no contradictions
@@lolaaasa1905 bro you saying that tells me that you never challenged your own religion(if you are Muslim). Even one scholar said there are holes in the Quran but they deleted the video on their channel because they knew it would be controversial, luckily someone still has that video, I even showed that exact same video to a Muslim and he said the scholar must say exactly what holes. So even with evidence that top Muslim scholars admit to there being holes, Muslims still wouldn't believe it for some reason
@@mr_lander31 Name of the scholar 😂😂😂
@@mr_lander31 plus no scholar would say that you are lying
@@lolaaasa1905 Yasir Qadhi
Every Christian is different, it's very hard for MUSLIMS to understand. Not surprised this guy keep circulating.
He doesn't seem to get how incorherent his position is
It's like saying the unlimited being can fit in the limited being which is just a ridiculous statement, and this is just a one example to go off their bible is full of contradictions when it comes to god
Christians can't comprehend simple logic and reason.
To use an analogy for the incarnation - If an author includes himself in an autobiography as a character in that book, does that author cease to exist ?
@@kairos_fluent That's just a bad analogy
God writing about another God smh...
@@iledawn9282 No need to disrespectful with comments like 'smh'.
Your knee-jerk reactions to any point shows that you're prejudiced (pre-judged).
@@kairos_fluent address the the problem instead
@@iledawn9282 You took the analogy *literally* . So just take your time and think on it.
The analogy was meant to show that God can become man without ceasing to be God.
Using the same analogy, if a man can put himself into something that he created (like a book or movie) then there is no reason why God can't put Himself into the universe he created.
If a man can do it, God can certainly do it.
So you don't have to believe in Christianity, but you can't say its "irrational", "ridiculous", etc.
You can still believe something is coherent without it believing it to be true.
Don says everything god does is right but Genesis 6:6 says: “And the LORD regretted that He had made man on the earth, and it grieved Him to His heart”
It's hard to logically argue with someone who has lower IQ capability...
@@zidane8452 are you Young Don's younger brother?
Funny how they read bible and interpret it on their own and then go around claiming other religions as false 😭 some don’t even read bible and just follow “Christian Influencers”, believing them blindly. But I think more people reverted to Islam from this, Alhamdulillah!
Good work by the people in this stream for bringing this issue to public and I think more confrontations from people hating/attacking other religions is necessary because the hate crimes over religions are increasing and concerning.
People need to realize that it’s ok for others to not have same beliefs/opinions as you. Get over it instead of spreading hate and attacking!
Adam, Noah, Abraham, Joseph, David, Solomon, and a host of other Prophets (pbuta): "worship 1 true God!"
Jesus (pbuh): 3 in 1 gods (per Christian logic)
Ok.
YOUNG DON THIS MESSAGE IS FOR YOU: When I first became a believer in Jesus Christ, I was filled with zeal just like you. However, I was also filled with ignorance of Scripture and denominational teachings which take the Scriptures out of context in order to justify the existence of their congregation. Fast forward seven years later and that no longer holds true about me. I am a master at what I know. I am not claiming to know the whole bible inside out but what I know is what the bible truly is and it's purpose.
This spectacle with the Muslim brothers should have never happened. You are trying to sell diesel fueled cars to electrical car buffs. They will never change, and that is fine. That is their choice and their perrogative. They need to sort out their own divisions within their faith as we need to also resolve the divisions within the believers in Christ. I hereby leave the door open for you if you wish to learn the truth about what Scripture, not me or a denomination, says. Godspeed.
@vazylio
Many years ago I was shadowbanned for the biblical content I would post. Which is why now I choose for it to remain empty.
@Original Blizzardhawk what if I told you no one was doomed? You wouldn't believe it. It is humans that want others to perish. The very humans that wrote up the doctrines to what we know today as institutionalized religion and are under a tax code that makes them exempt from paying taxes.
The point of Christ was to be the ultimate sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. Centuries prior, Israel had to sacrifice animals under the Law in order to be forgiven of sin. The innocent dies for the guilty. Which is why Christ died to pay for the eniquities of the guilty worldwide. You may like or may not like this answer but it is notbmy answer it was written wayyyy before I came along.
Maybe he can't help it? No one considers that Don may have a very low IQ (which is okay btw). Do we even know what grade level he is reading at?
I was just thinking the same thing. perhaps he doesn't posses the tools for logical analysis and assessment.
but discovery of AND resolution of ignorance is always a beautiful thing.
Can you guys please only do Sneako and Sheikh Usman and then add Don. in another Podcast? that would be great!
He does not challenge you, he hopes to help you, so that you may not suffer Satan's fate.
Trinity is actually easy to explain, you someone's son, someone's husband and someone's father all at the same time. Different identities and roles but the same person...simple right?
Whose son is the Father?
@@kakarote100I just use that analogy to explain how one can exist having 3 identities / functions nothing more than that.
@@zach8474 But the analogy doesn't hold if the Father is not the son of someone, because to be god, according to your analogy, the Father has to be *somebody's son* apart from being somebody's father at the same time, right?
@@kakarote100 No. God the Father is a role of God. Its God is playing the role of the Father who has a son. The son is Jusus and he is God playing the identity as the son of God the father, the Holy spirit is the “husband" of the the Church (us who are described in the Bible as the bride of the Holy spirit) ... but let's just wait for the next video. Because I'm not an expert lol just thought I'd give a 2c since I don't think Don was making things clear
@@zach8474 You just redefined trinity by stating the Father is a role of God. A being can have roles but a being is not a role. Is the Father a being or a role?
Parenthood is the role of any father, but he's also somebody's son, unless he's Adam (pbuh). If the role itself is seen as father, then that's a logical fallacy.
"A Trinity doctrine is commonly expressed as the statement that the one God exists as or in *three equally divine “Persons”,* the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit."
Nah kinda lost some respect for y'all with this one. Every religion in the abrahamic faiths believes in its own faith to the exclusion of the others. Same way he views Islam as false, y'all view Christianity as false. That is why you debate in the first place, that should *not* be something to be contentious over...then sheikh Uthman coming in and not answering the question on salvation and just trying to twist the Bible then leaving was cowardly. Don didn't do his best but he was caught off guard and was just trying to learn and ask questions. Uthman being one of the largest apologists going against a new Christian convert is obviously unfair. This is coming from an agnostic atheist former Christian looking into Islam and orthodox Christianity. I kinda expected more from this channel but clipping and stuff is not the way to go. Mohammed Hijab when debating Christian scholar Joshua Sijuwade always keeps it respectful and they both believe the other to be wrong (hence debate). Don adding context to the scriptures and explaining the necessity behind Jesus's coming as a Christian is relying on concepts of divinity outside human understanding just like the understanding many Muslims have that prophet Muhammad rode on Buraq or that he split the moon. From a physicists perspective (myself), I can tell you the moon shows no sign of splitting in half at any point and goes against scientific observation and can explain how that'd WILDLY change the gravitational pull on tides and earth generally. But I am not gonna nitpick that bc it is understood as a *miracle* in theological understanding, defying confines of what is logically observable and what transpires in daily life. It is inherently the creator intervening and breaking rules he has set. Similarly, this is what is meant by denying the coming of Jesus to die for a Christian's sins. It is questioning if God can perform miracles. There is no reason one can expect God to tamper with physical reality but not logical and conceptual reality of what God or a spirits boundaries are. And this is why I lament some of these conversations bc at the end, there will always tend to be an argument as to who is suspending more disbelief. You both believe in miracles but just have a different threshold as to when you accept them or how much. Also asking someone to address the supposed contradictions in their holy book on the spot is disingenuous and ignores that ppl need to research context prior to just accepting some line of argumentation. Which is why I say the Sheikh was wrong for that. Y'all have to be a bit more even handed in situations like this bc it doesn't make you come off well as someone who saw the whole stream. Basically was almost an ambush.
I used to be a Christian and I was told to stop asking questions with regards to the bible. The flaws are there but Christian's still choose blind faith. I was against Islam because of this. However I started reading the Quran and I can see the beauty of the religion. Although it's not just a religion, it is a way of life.
Young Don's argument has many flaws. Bart D. Ehrman clearly points the flaw's out in his video's, where he addresses many frame's of thought when it comes to Christianity.
I questioned so many things with Christianity and could never get clear answers because no Christian has the answers. The evidence is clearly there that the bible is flawed. Ahmed Deedat, peace be upon him was a pioneer in pointing out the flaw's. Upon my journey towards Islam, I can say that Muslims maintain their composure and know far more about Christianity than most Leaders of the religion.
When Christian's get angry they call it passion. No, to lie is a sin. Be honest and take it like an adult and say that you are angry.
Jesus said “I and the Father are one”. They tried to stone him for blasphemy. He was then crucified and said “it is finished” and defeated death by rising from the grave. prophecy was fulfilled. Many people died for Jesus, knowing he rose. It’s pretty apparent 🤷♂️
Faiyad brother the most logical and rational would be for God to send prophets and scriptures to communicate with humans rather than coming down himself
You can tell Sneako is like thinking "Oh shoot this is making a lot of sense" like When he interrupts Uthman sneakos like "I want to hear what he has to say" genuinely I hope he converts.