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- In May, Georgia passed its version of a “heartbeat bill,” legislation that bans abortion after six weeks of gestation. The bill - like other anti-abortion bills that cleared statehouses across the South and the Midwest this year - sparked protests, condemnation from doctors and advocates, and legal challenges.
But for some women in Georgia, the abortion debate hasn’t included a key voice: women who have undergone the procedure themselves.
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I had a tubal pregnancy - was I supposed to carry a child in my fallopian tube until he/she died, or I did? It was bad enough that my tube ruptured, and I ended up with a full hysterectomy and several blood transfusions because I bled out. The govt needs to stay out of my body~
I’m sorry that happened to you and I’m very glad that you have lived through this and are okay! The mother’s life matters most.
East Ender A friend of mine had two fallopian pregnancies and I never knew the procedure would require medical termination; but it makes sense! Thank you for sharing.
I m sorry you had to go through. I’m glad that you are healthy. I wish you all the best 💋💋💋❤️❤️❤️
I’m sorry for the loss and trauma you went through. I hope you have healed or continue to heal. Godspeed friend
Sorry you went through that, your situation is so different from this video.
I would like to thank these women for sharing their vulnerabilities and pain with the public. Thank you.
Curly Geek.. i agree. I hope this open people's eyes to reality
@@abbyc.4853 Just so you know; 50% of American women have an unwanted pregnancy at some time or other in their lives, and most of those get abortions.
That means, by your way of thinking, almost 50% of the women you know are murderers.
That alone should tell you that your way of thinking is misguided.
Most of these women had fetuses with horrible illnesses that would not have survived.
You think you are loving, but actually you have no compassion at all, and you are incredibly self righteous.
@@brynawaldman5790 You are less important than the child. Your life is less important. Unless the child will die the mother should be forced to term.
@Wait Whet ? It seems like sincere thanks to me and not casual at all.
Get a life will ye
A woman I know was happily married and pregnant with her second child. She was thrilled beyond belief. At 7 months it was found the baby was deceased from a congenital defect. Due to late trimester abortion laws she had to carry a dead baby full term and give birth. This really impacted her mental health , physical health, and marriage. She is now deceased herself. Those making laws are not pro life. They are pro birth and anti woman.
I'm sorry for both of your losses.
Stop making up stories
Wouldn't that be a medical induction? The baby had already passed.
@@reallyrandomthings615 - One would think so. However, depending on the state she lived in, it can be (unnecessarily) complicated.
@@yesorno1768 this is a loss of a child, what has humanity turned into for you to come and say something like that. You’re not the first person I’ve seen spew nonsense
I’m so glad they said it, “No one wants to be in an abortion clinic.” I’ve never met anyone who wanted to make that choice. I wish this world would invest more in supporting parents versus penalizing them. I just heard a doctor say she had a patient who wanted an abortion because her boyfriend threatened to kill her if she didn’t. Why is the focus even on the abortion when the mother’s safety was the problem?
Edit: Just to give people something to consider, there are also people in this world who think it’s ok to murder students or people at parades. This comment is not meant to address people who act like they enjoy abortions. People like that have other issues going on or don’t know better because that’s not normal behavior.
Great point, the factor of the father not wanting the baby also needs to be mentioned in the abortion discussion. Remember, the number one cause of death in pregnant women is not complications, but homicide by a current or former intimate partner, usually the man who sired the pregnancy.
@@neverforever4787 How horrible is that? I wish we could change the conversation, because behind just about every woman who is seeking an abortion is a man who set the stage. I got pregnant at 17 and I wanted an abortion because I knew what I was up against. I’m glad I didn’t, but I completely understand the terror that grips the women who faced what I faced and made the best decision they could. I appreciated this video because I didn’t know that parents who had medical challenges still faced the same battle.
Because just as it is wrong for the boyfriend to kill her, it is wrong for a mother to kill her child for that reason. The baby's safety is at risk also, buy it's own mother! Boyfriend should go to jail and mother and baby should be protected as much as possible. You don't just kill your baby cause someone threatened you. Can't even believe I had to type this 🤦
@@mbyrd6713 I'm glad you didn't, too. Most women completely regret their abortions. The best decision one can make is to.. Not kill a developing human that they took the risk of creating. Abortion is a medical procedure and there should absolutely be medical exceptions, but women should not have a choice to end a baby's life with no medical justification at all. If abortion is not an option women (and men) will give much higher consideration to the consequences of having unprotected intercourse. How about not have intercourse because you know what you'd be up against? Prevention is everything. (Non- religious and a woman)
@@jeannie1592 Easy for you to say when you aren't in that situation, that woman had an abortion to save her own life, would you rather both the baby AND the mother be dead? This is my main problem with "pro life" people, you completely lack nuance and see everything in black and white, this has been evident in nearly every conversation I have had with one. Hope you grow up soon and realize life can get a hell of a lot more complicated than you think.
It’s crazy and ignorant for people to think that there are really women out here just aborting their babies for the hell of it. I hope this video brings that to light and starts a different conversation about why some women actually get abortions but most of all how it’s no one business or decision to make other than the women going through it.
But abortions for the hell of it is the most common
The young woman that want to go out and party end up pregnant abort a healthy baby that one of these woman could have adopted that’s what’s wrong with abortions these woman all had health issues with their children not simply because they didn’t want the child because they weren’t ready
@@Sp1n1985 No, it isn't.
@@tylerhartman795 You seem to be making the argument that Plan B should be readily accessible then.
@@Matt-fl8uy City Girl Summer is in effect. Yes it is. Most abortions are not done for medical reasons but for convenience. (kids are expensive). The birth control "failed"
I can totally identify with her saying that her arms ached. When I had a stillbirth after 30 weeks I felt the same way. I literally almost bought a doll even though that felt weird. It just felt odd to have my arms empty and it was my 1st child. Sending love to these families.
They actually sell hyper realistic infant dolls for that reason..
@@thesoliloquist1940 they are nice but having to pay hospital bills usually come first. I think coming home without a baby was more expensive than coming home with one. For those that can afford them they are a great option.
I’m so sorry for your loss.
My beloved late Portuguese born mother had a miscarriage in her 7th month of pregnancy. She suffered from Alzheimer’s and has her illness progressed she began holding a doll she named Sara. Our father told us their daughter and my oldest sister was named Sara. We buried that doll with her ♥️ abortion is not birth control it’s the action of taking a life.
Sorry for your loss 🧡
I was exactly 23 weeks and 6 days. It was horrific. We thought everything was fine until it wasn’t. I did every test under the sun. Amniocentesis, blood work, ultrasound after ultrasound and no one could figure out why she wasn’t growing. She was 6+ weeks behind in growth development, they realized all along my timeline was wrong and I should have been much farther along than I was and she should have been twice as big. She had ecogenic bowel and calcification of the liver on top of me losing 60% of my amniotic fluid. We had no time to make this decision. We found out within a week all of these things were going wrong and suddenly we went from having a family, to having the worst thanksgiving of my life. I was told she was not viable, if I continued it would be dangerous to me, and if on the 1% chance I was able to give birth to her and she survived. She would be a vegetable and have no quality of life with severe severe disabilities. It was the worst decision I ever had to make. I empathize with these women so much I wish I had a support group like this to talk to with other women. Because it is an experience filled with so much shame/judgement from other people you end up feeling so alienated. It’s such a heartbreaking thing to go through and I know I was never and will never be the same after I went through that. I cried when that one women said her arms ached because she had no baby to hold. That’s how I felt all the time and I still do. I remember I even lactated after the termination because my body was so confused why there was no baby to feed. My heart aches for my daughter and for these women who also lost their loved child they never got to meet. I’m lucky in the sense that I know for sure I made the right decision and there were no what ifs in my mind because in the pathology report we found out I had blood clots in my placenta so I know she would have never been able to make up the growth she had lost or survive an early birth. But it didn’t give me the closure I thought it would. I work with kids as well for my job and it’s so difficult to take care of other people’s babies. To know I can’t hold mine and stroke her face while I tell her I love her, or feel her hands clasp around my fingers. She wouldn’t be a baby anymore. She would be 4 now and there’s still not a day that goes by that I don’t think of her. It’s been so triggering with the news lately about roe v wade and so upsetting to hear all of the hatred toward women who have gotten abortions. I wish that people would have more empathy and understanding. It feels like no one understands what it’s like to go through something like this. There were many days I sobbed and wished I had just miscarried in the first few weeks instead of having to go through all this, but I try to be grateful for the time we were together even if I couldn’t take Violet home with me.
I understand. The same thing happened to me. Only the people closest to you understand. Only you can make the best decision.
I am so sorry.
@@alessandrajackson3768 thank you 💜
@@maryanncanter3655 thank you 💜
I am so sorry you had to go through this. You are incredibly brave for sharing your story.
6:11 i was listening to this in the background and her statement cut through my unfocus and punched me in the gut. I can’t stop crying now cause it’s true. I didn’t have an abortion but a premature rupture of members at 20 weeks and lots my third baby. So unexpectedly. In 4 days i was in labor, that hurt just as bad as full term, just as hard and went home to heal with all my baby things and nursery and no baby to hold. You will never understand the way it tears your insides out losing a baby this way. And even then, due to no amniotic fluid if the baby was in distress or was going to fair poorly or face severe handicap or death, pitocin administration was still legal where I was in severe cases. I was lying in a hospital bed for 4 days, in and out of of sleeping off grief and waking up crying just wanting to not be awake, holding my belly still feeling him kick even with no fluid, knowing if he survived he would have severe effects. Governor Abbott has NO idea what it’s like in this position. With this new law, I’d have no choice to spare my little guy of a difficult few years of life and could only hope for the best. My grief wasn’t for me it was for my son and wanting to protect him and keep him safe and i was scared. To the point i wanted to save him from pain and if that meant ‘augmenting’ the process as the doctor put it, then it may have. Everything happened so fast… i wanted him so much. I wanted him to just be ok. The governor has NO idea all the thousands of scenarios and the hate a woman can feel even for herself, disowning her own self for even entertaining thinking of a decision like this. It’s so much and you never expect a positive pregnancy test to end up in so much sorrow confusion and chaos that goes so fast once it goes south. This law is an attack on all women and especially those facing dire situations they never wanted to be in to begin with. If people making these law’s think those that have abortions are so callous or heartless they don’t realize the heartbreak that happens and the scar they live with whether intentional or natural. Mine happened beyond my control. It’s hard no matter what the outcome when you lose a child. You never forget.
So, you would've rather been the one to make the call when, where and how🤔❓you should've been aborted not your child that pasted OMGGGGG 🙉🙈🙊🤮
This is so sad. No one wants to carry to term a baby that will die upon arrival or die inside you.
that's literally the ONLY time you might have an abortion. but even then it's debatable. if you know for an absolute fact the baby is dead then, you don't do it or it will be legalized homicide.
It is sad, but never underestimate the resillience of life. Many have been given death sentences but against the odds survived. In my opinion, I'd give the child a chance. If it dies, it dies. All the same, I don't blame these women for their choices.
@@Sanctifiers These stories are tragic, but not the only time someone is justified in having an abortion. The bottom line is that it's a legal medical procedure and it's none of your business why someone has one.
@@wtfthano The fact that it's legal doesn't mean it's ethical, that's not a good argument. I am pro-abortion access, for sure. Before there is brain activity in the fetus, there is absolutely no ethical issue whatsoever around having an abortion. There are rare instances when late-term abortions occur in cases where the fetus is healthy and the mother is healthy, but a combination of a mentally unwell mother is paired with an ethically questionable doctor and fetus-murder does occur. I was really curious about whether or not this anti-abortion talking point had any validity at all so I spent a lot of time researching to find if there were any verifiable cases where this had occurred. I did find some. One stood out in particular where a woman in Quebec, Canada aborted her pregnancy at 8 months because the father had decided to bail and the mother simply didn't want to be a single Mom. This case was pretty horrific and I still can't see any way this was ethically acceptable.
My only point is that I wish the pro-abortion team would be more honest about the fact that although it's incredibly rare, these clearly unethical abortions do occur sometimes and there ought to be legal protection for the fetus. Aborting a fetus at 8 months because you don't want to be a single mom is murder. It's too late at that point. A healthy fetus at 8 months is a sentient being capable of feeling pain and if you've waited that long to get an abortion, I think it shouldn't be legally allowed.
That all being said.... These folks saying that no woman should be able to get a 2nd or 3rd trimester abortion, even in cases where the baby has no chance of living, or will live an extremely short and painful life before it is guaranteed to die, are full of shit. Abortion should be widely available, safe, shame-free. Contraception should be too, and sex ed. But if the mother's life is in danger, or if the baby has hydrocephaly or something, then although it is a difficult ethical issue to parse out, in the end the ethically correct choice is to abort that pregnancy.
@@wtfthano - Thank you.
After weeks of different testing when my pregnancy wasn't progressing as normal, Emily was diagnosed with Edwards Syndrome at 20 weeks. I was offered termination, and very seriously considered it. I decided to wait, because I had the sense that we were going to lose her either way. Her heart stopped beating at 27 weeks. I was induced and had her, stillborn, weighing less than 2 pounds. She didn't develop normally. The way her head and body had developed, I can't imagine how much pain she would have been in if she had made it to birth and had tried to survive. People don't understand... I was Pro-Choice before, and am unwaveringly Pro-Choice now.
It is a very difficult topic. However, Generally, pro-life supporters believe in the intrinsic value of life. I don't think conservatives will argue to keep the baby if the mother and the baby's health are at risk. Conservatives ask: who are we to decide whether an innocent 'life' gets to live or die? My sister was born with serious health complications. She struggled the first few months to survive, but she is now a relatively healthy adult. Would it have been 'right' for my parents to decide to go through with an abortion? Maybe we should be pushing for more accessible methods of contraception (addressing unwanted pregnancies).
@@KillyMcPhilly You are ignoring the fact that unwanted babies are going to be raised poorly in their family of origin and end up with more health and emotional problems which in turn are a burden on society. Whatever your parents did is irrelevant now. We are the people that are here and an adult woman's life is more important to me than the potential good or bad of a clump of cells. Every baby is as likely to be a saint as a serial killer so you argument cancels itself out.
If you love life so much what are you doing to stop the destruction of the planet? to protect extant children from abuse? Do you volunteer to be financially and emotionally responsible for an unwanted child? People like you love to pontificate but I've never heard anyone with any experience of hardship speak as foolishly as you do.
KillyMcPhilly conservatives vote to decide that living children be devalued everyday.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
MOST abortions are not because of things like THIS- MOST abortions are a form on contraception!
I had a pregnancy where the fetal pole was deformed. I had no health insurance so they said you can either get a dnc for 3000 or an abortion for 250. I had to choose the abortion.
In my case there was no protestors. No one yelling at me. It was a lovely office that just looked like a regular doctors office.
I frankly think that women in this situation shouldn't have to go to an abortion clinic to get this done. It should be done in a hospital where no one would know what you were going there for so people can't yell at you.
No one deserves to be yelled at but especially not mothers who want thier babies.
Why should it matter if the pregnancy is wanted or not? Nobody should be yelled at period. It’s not their bodies, not their business. Don’t depressed people for their reasoning, that’s where laws and loopholes come in.
And the type of person that harasses nursing mothers needs to be tracked as well.
The intense harassments directed at individuals over being a female are not limited to her reproduction status. The misogynists learned torment is a mental health crisis targeting a group. There are others .
so the other women deserve to be yelled at? ok
They played you . There are pills you can take .. I paid 500/ my baby didn’t have a heartbeat
Agreed it was so ugly when I went . No one yelled at me but they were yelling in general.. and protesting.. the crazy Christians.. I didn’t choose to do it the baby had no heartbeat
One of my pregnancies was a "yolk" at 15 weeks. I had a choice to have the pregnancy ended in the hospital or at home. I waited 2 more weeks because I was hoping and praying that their was a heartbeat. I chose to stay home and do the procedure. A couple of weeks later, I received a letter from the insurance company that I had to pay for the procedure because I was aborting my child. My baby was a yoke! What a punch in my gut! I know it's not easy for these moms to share their story, but I thank them. We shouldn't have to tell the public our stories but they are leaving us with no choice!
Yolk?
I'm so sorry. This is really f'd up.
@@julietardos5044
Yes, yolk. I didn't catch that. Thanks.
Absolutely horrible that your insurance company didn’t cover. You made a difficult choice.
My heart broke when she said “In my situation there was nobody to hold”
Ditto. I shed a tear.
I cried along with her. I wish her peace and serenity, and thank her for sharing her story.
Trisomy 18, he could’ve lived for quite possibly a few days after he was born. She could’ve held him and let him know that she loved him. He would’ve felt that. She just didn’t want to go through the sadness
Elise Oldham The impact that would’ve had on her mental health... I don’t even wanna imagine!
Elise Oldham The key word here is *could have*. Possibility. Not guaranteed, whatsoever. If he did live, there would’ve been countless medical procedures compared to the one of letting him go.
Don't judge a pain you haven't endured.
Murdering a baby has gotta be so painful for the innocent child I agree
Ismael H There will ALWAYS be abortion, whether it’s legal or not. There will be more abandoned newborns(or killed), suicide, self induced, child poverty, underground abortions($$$)....
There will always be war and murder. That is the nature of the human race. Tribal, territorial and warlike. You are filled with hate at people like me and I am filled with HATE at people like you.
Nobody is judging their pain, we are judging their response to that pain.
@@erockstoenescu6171 you're dumb dude.
@@ismael2661 these people are suffering because they had no choice. Quit pretending to care. You don't care about the living people involved. You're pretending to care about a child that never existed.
My father tried to make my mother have an abortion with me. Even made the appointment for the abortion at the hospital. Took my mother to the hospital and the nurse noticed that my mom was upset and asked her, you really don’t want to do this do you? My mom said no. My nurse said follow my lead and pretend that you went through everything. Let him take care of you when you get home as if you’re recovering. So they went through all the motions and the nurse put my mom in recovery I made it look like she had had the abortion. My own grandmother and father pick my mother up and took her to my grandmother‘s home and babied and cuddled her because they thought she was recovering. Three months later my dad realized that she was still pregnant and he beat her so bad in the stomach it almost caused her to have a miscarriage with me. But in April 1974 I was born. Both of my parents were nightmares but I will ever be grateful to my mother for what she did that day.
Beautiful story of love and courage. God bless your Mom.💝
So did your dad ever took care of you? Or did he not care about you?
@@denismarquez2966 my mother was an alcoholic and lost custody of us. My abusive father took care of us. I ran away at 15 and never returned.
@@truckingwithtobee wow I am so sorry you had it tough.
I use to be against abortion. Until I realized that some lives are not meant to be. When you are going to have a Baby who is going to grow up attached to a ventilator, will never drive a car, who will never have a decent quality of life, who is too sick to live on their own, who will be bombarded with Medical issues, and who will never live the Life a human being should live Abortion is the only right thing to do. I know this situation. It's a sad, and horrific situation. A life on a ventilator can only go so far. You will not live what normal people live. Especially if you can't go out on overnight trips because of so many God Damn machines. Your life revolves around what your ventilator lets you do.
Some of these children can go much farther than you know there's actually a lot of children with disabilities that live happy lives and despite their disabilities they can still smile and if they can live to have that smile and be happy at least they're able to be happy
They may not be able to do as many things as we can but there are tons of people who are unable to do as many things as we can but we can't kill them after they're born because we consider them a life after they're born
And there are lots of children who have been diagnosed with disabilities before birth and have been found out to still be able to do the things that we can do
What it's like to be an abortion surviver: th-cam.com/video/6Qyw82TOIYY/w-d-xo.html
I think that the parents armed with proper education and training from their doctors should be able to decide. No standard of living is guaranteed for anyone. Not everyone is meant to or wants to "live normally." We could all die tomorrow from unforseen circumstances. There's worse conditions to live with than being on a ventilator.
Not to mention that some parents more than likely can't fund the expenses of having a disabled child
Are you aware of how many times a doctor has made those claims to a pregnant woman and the woman continued the pregnancy y with absolutely zero complications during and after birth ..
@@rissa3163 It's called Medicaid.
The sound of their voices when they’re talking about their stories is heartbreaking.
Alex Murillo yes it is ! sadly women who go through abortion will never heal from it... a lot of what ifs... of the unknown...
th-cam.com/video/6X8_WEFq15Q/w-d-xo.html
It happened us nine months ago. That day a piece of me died. These women speak for all of us. We’re in a group together and a bond that keeps us close.
There in pain sorry
you can hear the trauma
I made the decision to continue my pregnancy; I never felt so much pressure to make a decision. My daughter had Down Syndrome and usually they have heart defects. So I had a ultrasound the her heart was structurally sound. The doctor ask me "Are going to continue the pregnancy? Yes "I said". Doctor said "That's very admirable of you". These babies complicate your life.".I was like keep your opinion to yourself. Well, my daughter did not survive she needed a operation b/c the aorta was pressing on her trachea; in turn, she had failure to thrive. She never woke up. Two days of. all kinds of tests. Christmas we decided to let her go.She died X-mas day. Me, her father my brother who rushed to Boston Children's Hospital from N.H. This is weird her brother who has Sotos Syndrome just asked me abt her. I think about her everyday. I will never forget walking out that hospital Christmas Eve without my baby.
Her name was Takara (Japanese) which means treasure/precious gift; middle name Hope. I relate so much too ALL the women. Life and Death decisions are the hardest. You don't know until you are in this situation. A loss is a loss. Either way. This video was very healing for me. This subject has been on my mind since Dec.25th 2006.
Walking out of labor & delivery, after birthing a baby that dies, is the most impossible walk you ever have to endure. I know it. Hugging you. I'm sorry you had to do that same walk.
I am so sorry about what happened to you, it sounds trite but I cannot imagine how horrible it is to lose a child.
@just plain_name wow. How can you say that to someone who lost a baby? that is so incredibly ignorant and insensitive.
@just plain_name yeah, some "life" poor baby suffered. I hope this woman heals.
@just plain_name Are you a doctor? I read your other "medical" statements. You talked about "antifa's huge vaginas". You stated there's never a reason for medical abortion. I would love to know where your medical education comes from? Candace Owens?
I almost had to do it at 24 weeks. The doctors found a major heart defect and no kidneys. I was devastated, I cried all day and night but I had a feeling something wasn’t right and looked for second opinions. After so many test, ultrasounds and MRI they found out her heart condition was minor and the kidneys were there and located at the correct spot. I am sooo glad I didn’t just go with the results the first doctor told me. This experience caused so much depresión and anxiety that until this day I’m still struggling but progressing.
You did the right thing. I hope all is well.
Always look for a second opinion when it comes to medical issues. You'd be surprised at how some doctors misdiagnose patients.
You are a brave mother. You were handed honorific information and you did the right thing. Bless you.
@Texas Wildflower how does that work? Seriously elaborate on how both choices are correct I would love to hear your explanation It must be so enlightening.
My heart breaks for these families.
I’m in Australia and at 12 weeks I started to go into kidney failure. I was admitted to hospital and told to terminate pregnancy as baby would not survive anyway. I refused, and was kept in hospital- put on dialysis and EVERY SINGLE DAY was seen by a doctor or specialist and ordered to abort until I got to 24 weeks and then they finally gave up.
At 32 weeks I had a planned c section and our beautiful daughter was born.
She is 34 yrs old and I still have kidney function.
No government or policy has a right to tell anyone what to do with their bodies.
All decisions are hard and everyone has the right to make these decisions with respect, dignity and time.
And how many women are experiencing a kidney failure when they are pregnant?
@@s-truth I’m obviously not aware of kidney disease in pregnancy statistics…
I just know that being in a position where one has to consider terminating a pregnancy is HARD, really hard.
@@charmainesmith1362 If that is the case, then you should not use that as an example. Stick with facts not anecdotes.
@@s-truth I’ll use whatever the hell I want. It is my life, my truth and mine to tell.
They wanted me to abort, I did not want to. I was hospitalised for the term of my pregnancy and my baby and I survived.
I met 3 other women while there in the same position. All of their babies survived but two of the women went into complete kidney failure and needed a transplant later on.
What is your point?! Women have the right to choose, to be treated with dignity no matter what they decide.
@@charmainesmith1362 Sounds like you have anger issues preventing you from having a rational dialogue. As I said anecdotal evidence is not evidence. You would be laughed out of court in a university discussion if that is all you could offer.
There are many cases where abortions are medically NECESSARY to save mom. I know of a woman who had to have an abortion to save her life, and pro-life people will still judge her. Does her life not matter?
Of course not. In fact, the church teaches that abortion is OK in case of ectopic pregnancy, when neither the woman nor baby would survive
Those pro life men who want to prevent abortions to save a woman's life, don't deserve to live on this planet. Period.
@@kayliemacleod9954 Incidentally, the _only_ mention of abortion in the Bible is _pro-abortion._ That women who cheat on their husbands will have a forced miscarriage.
@@TheLegendOfRandy OK please cite the EXACT bible verse that says "women who cheat on their husbands will have forced abortions"
@@Fandar most pro life men (not sure why this has become woman rights issue) agree abortion is fine if the mother is in danger. The marginal case does excuse the other 99%
I’m so glad to see the fathers in these stories
Not technically fathers since the babies died lol
Me too.
Of course they're here. They lost a child too.
@@heygirlsup1820 dead or not, if you have a child (that you care about), you are a dad
th-cam.com/video/ljbH_ArbB8s/w-d-xo.html find out what the Bible says about abortion
“I wasn’t recovering from an abortion, I was recovering from the loss of a child” wow 💔
💔 I never lost a child that far into my pregnancies but I’ve miss carried twice and it through me into the worst depression I ever had and speaking to my doctors I felt like a patient not a mother losing a baby that I cried for, prayed for, dreamed about.. it leaves a lasting hurt that no woman that has gone through it can ever explain!
I’m a woman who has suffered recurrent miscarriages and I understand you 🙏🏾
This is about building empathy, by listening to others and putting yourself in their shoes
Social Burnout already happened 3 years ago. Pulling at the heart Strings is not a good media tactic anymore
Well said. This was painful to watch but then I read your comment
@@Thechristianremnantnomad You're a moron I'm sorry but you are. You're ok with suffering then.
@@maryrose8478 no you're the moron! You don't think these babies suffered extreme pain and horrific brutalness during the abortion? It would have been better for them to be born and died a natural life comforted and loved not brutalized by a vicious brutal killing of an abortion
@@maryrose8478 do not interact with a.w. the troll. It is just trying to piss people off through a computer
My mother had 5 medical abortions, some in the first trimester and some in the second trimester. All from the same chromosomal problem. All of them had names. She's been on antidepressants for 15 years and, although they help, I don't think she'll ever be the same. Thank you Vice.
nicole do you think your mom would consider going to therapy?
@@annomaly751 Or look for a support group.
I hope she’s able to get the emotional support she needs, so many people are so quick to point the finger but don’t consider the pain these women have gone through themselves.
@skharri18 go to hell
I'm not trying to minimize what she went through but after two I would have gotten my tubes tied and stopped trying. Why go through a trauma 5 times on purpose? Just adopt.
I lost my 2nd baby girl and when she said her arms physically ached for her baby I felt that so much. Unless u have lost a baby u have no idea how that feels. My body physically ached and craved this baby that was no longer there. Just thinking about it now 20yrs later I can still feel that ach in my arms.
So sorry, Karen.
There are never medical doctors or scientists in the room with the politicians and judges making these laws.
Twenty years ago my sister died in childbirth. This was after a perfectly normal and healthy pregnancy. This was in the U.S. She had an amniotic fluid embolism, but this was only recognized in her autopsy. In the hospital, the doctors were scrambling around trying to figure out what was happening. We forget that childbirth is dangerous for women. It is outrageous that people are trying to pass laws that might cause an obstetrician to say, I'd better not do x to try to save this mother's life because i might be accused of endangering or killing the baby.
I'm so sorry 💔❤
@OGlettuceWEED Amen.
OGlettuceWEED -- You missed my point. Laws have unintended consequences. Even if a law is written to permit abortion in life-threatening situations, medical personnel can fear that they may be prosecuted in complex birth situations.
@GABRIEL PALACIOS Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood quotes;
"We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population..."
-- Letter to Dr. Clarence J. Gamble, December 10, 1939
“I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan... I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak...In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered.”
-- Margaret Sanger, An Autobiography, published in 1938
“The most serious evil of our times is that of encouraging the bringing into the world of large families. The most immoral practice of the day is breeding too many children..."
-- Sanger, Margaret. Woman and the New Race (1920). Chapter 5: The Wickedness of Creating Large Families.
"No woman shall have the legal right to bear a child, and no man shall have the right to become a father, without a permit for parenthood."
-- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 4, March 27, 1934.
"Permits for parenthood shall be issued upon application by city, county, or state authorities to married couples, providing they are financially able to support the expected child, have the qualifications needed for proper rearing of the child, have no transmissible diseases, and, on the woman’s part, no medical indication that maternity is likely to result in death or permanent injury to health."
-- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 5, March 27, 1934.
“We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. And the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”
- Margaret Sanger’s December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon’s Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976
@Haitham Ali Cry harder about your little clump of cells.
“No one wants to be here” has to be the most powerful part of this video.
They’re doing what is best for their family. This is the real conversation we should be having. No family should have to make this decision. Having termination be a viable option is a what saves people from heart ache and pain. If you’re going to take away abortions then you’d better get the free health care rolled out and condoms mailed to every home in America via USPS.
@@rubiosdevista I had TWO unexpected prgnancies as a result of my partner's inability to handle a condom properly OR communicate. #mybody #GratefulForMyChoice
@@rubiosdevista go ask your parents
@@tehMimzy I think you're both equally responsible but that is unfortunate
We're all adults. We can be sent to war, vote on who runs our country, but we're too irresponsible to buy a $3 pack of condoms? Are you kidding me? Healthcare is NOT the government's responsibility.
ernesto Lopez Hey idiot, women have gotten pregnant from protected sex. My friend got pregnant on the pill. It happens!
I was told I had cancer when I found out I was pregnant with my fourth child and it was cervical cancer, my doctor told me I needed an abortion and I said no when the doctor said he will likely kill you my reply was fine but don't ask me to kill my child well it was God's choice dont get me wrong i was ill, but today I'm well and my beautiful angel just went to prom this is my testimony of my experience with Abortion.
I'm so glad I stuck to my belief! Thank you God for 4 beautiful babies!
I have never had a child but listening to their stories is just heartbreaking. I am so angry I am crying at what the pro "life" movement has done in this country.
What about all the healthy babies that are terminated? I don't care what your response is. Have you seen abortion instruments? Please, look it up.
I do sympathize with these women though. I have compassion for them.
@@saquesas "instruments" ???? up to 8 weeks it's a PILL. why don't you go adopt or foster some unwanted kids instead of trying to control what other people do.
@@saquesas “I don’t care what your response is.” That pretty much says it all.
It’s a tube.
@@saquesas I have! The are pills for most. The last 2% that happens outside the first trimester are done by D&C, and those that are in the 3rd trimester are injected the day before with medication to stop its heart. See, not so scary.
"I was not recovering from abortion, I was recovering from the loss of a child. And that's what people don't understand." Powerful.
Yes it's a child.
Well, technically it is both. This is a difference between a stillbirth and an abortion.
@@mike48084 you have a Point. A great point.
Yes she was recovering from both. And all of these people admitted they took the life of another human being. Fully acknowledging they were alive (something most pro-choicers won't even consider for a second) and choosing to end that life. I understand that it would be gut-wrenchingly difficult to decide to go to term as well but then you know you didn't snuff out their life and any opportunities they had. All these families took genetic testing as foolproof. Anyone besides me know someone who was told their child was most likely very sick and wasn't? Anyone else here have one or more potentially "life-threatening" situations happen during pregnancy and both mom and baby came through without any lasting harmful effects? Anyone else here ever have a premature child (or two) and watch them fight and thrive? God can do anything. I'm not gonna pretend like He doesn't allow difficult and painful situations and losses to happen, but why force your own hand against His timing? I just don't get it, to be honest. And you'd be surprised how often God will perform a miracle. Not saying all these babies would've been just fine, but now we'll never know if any of them could have been.
@@mrsmack5808 What a load of nonsense. I know of no pro choice advocate who would deny that it is a life. The overwhelming majority of abortions are done before the end of the first trimester and only about 1% of abortions take place well into the second or third. The embryo in the first trimester is literally though a clump of cells barely the size of a grape and indistinguishable from embryos of many other species including non-mammalian ones like fish. My appendix was more defined and bigger than that and no one had a problem of it being removed when it threatened my life, in my case I would have probably died if it had burst. All this though is also utterly irrelevant. Every person has the right to complete bodily autonomy and people with uteruses must have the very same right to that right and we grant this right to decide what happens to our bodies even after death yet not for people with wombs getting an unwanted pregnancy. Anyone denying it to people with a uterus is a monster to me because they are FORCING them to go through pregnancy and labour, which can be fatal, without asking them what they want. An absolutely abhorrent attitude to have for sure.
You put "life-threatening" in apostrophes revealing how utterly ignorant you are on the topic. A lot of pregnancies like an ectopic pregnancy are life threatening, 100% leading to the death of both the mother and the future child, and giving birth is literally a life threatening event, thousands of women die every year during child birth and countless embryos and foetuses die in utero and have to be aborted lest they will likely kill the mother via sepsis as well. About 20% of fertilized eggs fail to attach to the uterus wall and are flushed out with the next period and no one ever realised that it happened.
The "but why force your own hand against His timing?" comment completely and utterly disgusts me. You seriously think that it is your little invisible friends "hand" that had that 10 year old r**e victim which was defamed by you theocratic fascists in the media? What utter insanity to believe in.
Oh and as a final gift from me to you, your sky daddy is the same as the tooth faerie. Imaginary.
When she said her arms physically hurt... OMG I get that. I have had a medical abortion... for one of the reasons mentioned here. For MONTHS after, I would feel her kick, only to remember she was not there. And yeah, there was a literal ache to hold her. I had 2 family members that supported my decision, but they were far away... after I came home from the hosp... I was met with "Abortion is against God" Pamphlets spewed all over my bed. I wish everyone that is anti choice, would watch something like this and see the reality of what its actually like in these situations. My ultrasound with her was on April 1st... I remember because I kept thinking this HAS to be some sick April fools joke... 24 years later, I still grieve her.
So sorry for the loss. It must be difficult, and I'm sending love and hugs. Placing pamphlets in someone's bed was not a kind action at all. Instead of that, you should have received support and encouragement, because that is what you needed at that moment. As a pro-life, I am sorry you had to go through that. I feel more support should have been given... as a believer, I'd like to share (regarding the pamphlets) that I believe we are to reflect God's love, not destroy anyone because God's love does not hurt. He tells us we should love one another. God is a Healer of the soul and a mender of the heart. If one thing I've learned that I'll also share is that healing is an action word. It is ongoing. We heal every day. Jesus loves you; He is here to hold you. Sending love..
Unfortunately the highest % of abortions carried out are not for medical reasons. Medical reasons is a completely different catagory
@@danielletowns2651 its always a man with something stupid to add. Did you know that forced pregnancy is listed as equal to torture? I do not care why a woman aborts. It's should always be her choice to carry that child or not. ALWAYS
@@muziqli extaly
WHO had access to your bedroom to leave pamphlets? Did you have roommates?
I hate that these decisions are not allowed to be made between parents and doctor. This is healthcare! That women are forced to go to a “clinic” and abused by ignorant people makes me so angry. I just wish videos like this reached people that need to hear it. So frustrating. Thank you to those that shared their stories.
Healthcare doesn’t kill people. Abortion kills
The fact they said "I wish we would've had more time to decide" is just another reason the heartbeat bill is awful. Abortion should be safe, legal, and easy accessible.
Holy eff people watch the video. Don’t just read the title.
That's not how the internet works
Watch a bunch of child murderers? No thanks! Just because there’s some medical cases where it’s necessary doesn’t mean any woman should be allowed to murder their baby in the 2nd, 3rd trimester or post-birth infanticide. This is a propaganda video trying to prove we need late-term abortion which is bullshit. How can you be for killing innocent babies but be against killing baby rapists and murderers? Sick and twisted hypocrites.
@@erockstoenescu6171 prove? It just gives scenarios where it's already happened. Your projection of intent is odd
@@erockstoenescu6171 Do consider alternative viewpoints when commenting on contentious issues. Furthermore, trade insults at unspecified groups of people for open-ended questions and genuine curiosity.
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@ Erock Stoenescu
"child murderers"
How much of a prick do you have to be to disregard the events that these people went through? Are your politics that brain damaging that you'd label someone a child murderer before hearing them out?
The real monsters are those dropping these hateful comments. Y'all need to be ashamed of yourselves. Disgusting.
I wish all the best to these women, and all women who have to endure such difficult decision.
Cheers.
Its murder
@@marlboroman2393 no it is not.
Meat is murder. This is just natural selection. Survival of the fittest.
N Mil do you have any semblance of the concept of critical thinking
@@saltlessbread Well it is because the baby has a heartbeat , by aborting it you are ending a life which can also be known as murder.
Damn. Hearing their stories wow, I was one of them, but I chose to continue my pregnancy and my baby boy, Hunter, lived for 4 days. He had a brain disorder called Holoprosencephaly. I was almost six months into my pregnancy and my doctor said I could miscarry at anytime or he could be stillborn or die right after birth and suggested that I terminate immediately. I was young, 19, a single mom and still considered myself a Christian and I was against abortion and I'm not a Christian now, and I believe abortion should ALWAYS be a choice and it shouldn't have to be only because your baby has a disease or something. I made my choice and these women and their partners had to make their choice, which is an unimaginable choice to have to make.
Dear girl. You went through so much, but No matter what happens in life keep your precious Christian Faith.
In Uk a medically induced abortion is distinct from an abortion.
My Christian daughter had an induction at 22 weeks, the baby’s lungs had failed to develop, and there were other problems.
God never abandoned her, and though she went through this trauma, she clung to Him , and so did I.
In Uk, medical staff, never talk about this as abortion because it is different.
Abortion is not womens rights alone, it’s Father’s rights, and mothers rights, but women exclude the idea they are mothers. And they say, “ my body , my right.” but it’s not her body she is destroying, It’s someone else’s body,
Basically, the baby is paying the ultimate price for its parents mistake.
Ending a life is a very hard thing to do, but angry feminists shouting about their right, don’t seem to have grasped that fact, and have no compassion for their innocent babies.
I’m sure that in USA as in UK there is medical provision and compassion where pregnancy has gone horribly wrong, and there should be. But some women want abortion on demand and at any gestation and even after a full term birth. This should never be an acceptable “ right” for women, who refuse to acknowledge they have actually become mothers.
My daughter medically induced at 22 weeks gave birth and did not see herself as a woman excersising her right to abortion but as a mother who had lost her baby. Her husband, the father suffered alongside her.
This is so incredibly painful for me to watch Im bawling my eyes out over here. I dont think it has dawned on me until now how much my abortion affected me. I had to have an abortion at 20 years old. I was just 8 weeks along and I was heartbroken when I found out that I was pregnant. I'm very thankful that I live in Norway and I feel like abortions are more socially accepted here, even tho my mom was upset with me for even getting pregnant.
I couldnt stop crying from when I found out until I was put to sleep strapped to an operating table. They strapped me down before putting me to sleep and I had to walk into the operating room myself. It was an incredibly traumatic experience. I had to wait for 7 hours in the hospital before even being let in to a waiting room. I didnt want to have an abortion at all, but I knew that I was way to sick with ptsd from a traumatic childhood to be able to raise a kid without bringing on my generational trauma. I wanna heal before bringing a human into this world. I was also in a very abusive relationship and he was not supportive at all in the time after. He didnt really let me process what I just had went trough because he didnt like it when I was weak. I keep crying while writing this and it's just all pouring out now. I think it's good to finally be able to cry about this without feeling like I am bothering the father of my aborted child.
I still remember how it felt to be pregnant. Like I had a feeling because my skin would glow so nicely and my body just felt different. And when I knew that I was in fact pregnant it was a good feeling. But the fact that I knew what I had to do made it impossible to feel it without having shame. I felt so ashamed of it. I broke down at work the day after I found out and I told my boss and she was really supportive but then a few months later I found out she had told my colleagues and then the shame came flooding over me again. I wish I confronted her about it back then but I just didnt have the energy for it. Like what she did is illegal and fucked up. I thought I could trust her. Also the fact that my mom got upset with me didnt really help either. She was mad that I had unprotected sex instead of worrying about my mental health in all of this. But the thing is that if I did have that child, that child would have the genes of my ex who is a diagnosed narcissist and he has schizoid personality disorder. He is basically a monster. Not only would he probably leave us but he would have a chance of having those disorders aswell. His mom was schizofrenic and his mothers mom was too and she hung herself when his mom was just 17. I would be so immature and so mentally unstable that child would probably end up just as traumatized as me because his father would have left him. Oh. I wrote that without thinking. I always had a feeling it would be a boy....
Hello Elise, have you heard of Rachel's Vineyard? They may be able to help you process this loss.
“If I can make a choice where is the best outcome for my child to not have to suffer, Thats what I’m gonna choose and I would choose it everyday. “ This hit me hard.
That's bullshit, suffering is almost as much a part of life as death. If you are going to perform an abortion, don't try to justify yourself with altruistic reasons, it is a selfish decision.
@@isaacvazquez627 If a person doesn’t approve abortion, they have a choice not to get it. If a person wants to get an abortion for whatever reason, they also have a choice to get it. I don’t think that we have a right to question it.
@@pelbug72 if a person doesn't like murdering people they shouldn't do it. But if a person feels like murdering someone they should have the right to do it for whatever reason , and I don't think we have a right to question it. Let me see eh I don't agree with that logic. Especially especially when you're forcing other people to finance that murder/killing. Nobody has the right to murder/kill another innocent human being no matter what location of that human being..... if a baby in the womb had the ability to cause its mother's death by let's say holding its breath for 10 seconds and the baby was conscious that it could do this. Would the baby be morally just to cause it's mother's death for any reason even if the baby simply didn't like the sound of the mother's voice? And if not why not? it would be the baby's body it would just be doing what it wants to do with its body and that baby's choice to cause its mother to die would be completely Justified because it's the baby's body. That's the logic of pro-abortionist
@@jamestkirkland5984 And there are many woman that die in childbirth so basicly they are being murdered by their baby which meets your argument.
@@pelbug72 in America women have about 17.4 deaths per 100,000 live births, I wouldn't refer to that as many. That aside your whole argument is ridiculous a woman dying during the birth of her baby doesn't equate to the baby having the intent of Killing the mother so your argument is ridiculous. It's like saying if a baby dies while the mother is trying to carry the baby to full term then it should be counted as an abortion it should be counted as a mother killing the baby, that argument would be as ridiculous as your argument.
Wow, this actually brought up a point I haven’t even thought of. Enforcing such a tight time limit on making such an impactful choice often pushes a lot of people TOWARDS abortion because they don’t have enough time to really consider their options.
@DolphinsWIthIgloos Europe loves eugenics though
@@FactsFirst if we have state sanctioned execution and stand your ground laws then We've already legalized murder
@DolphinsWIthIgloos will the society shoulder the burden if the child turns out completely unviable? According to conservatives they should pull themselves up by the bootstraps
@@FactsFirst Treyvon Martin says hello
@@FactsFirst nothing you just imagined made any sense, you even used "probably", Not very logical,very much a assumption scenario.. Wow.. Almost like "I claim you're a criminal, legally I can kill you now, yes" - amazing
Hospitalized they told me, this pregnancy was going to kill me and therefore, the baby too. With four small children at home, they said I needed to terminate. I loved and wanted my baby. I was also told that the hospital could not perform such a procedure and I therefore had to have an abortion. I was on the OB floor, watching other pregnant Moms and New Moms and I had to be discharged to end MY baby's life. I wasn't advised not to look at my baby, but my Cousin who was in the room with me seen everything. I named my baby Stormy and we always acknowledge her existence. I had a healthy pregnancy by her Father soon after and our Son graduated from college right before the Pandemic. My Mom and My Hubby's Mom are now in Heaven with all of my babies who were never born on Earth. I Love you babies, Mommy loves you and will be with you one day! You were too good for this place anyway! There is too much hate, discord, judgement and pain.
My boyfriend brought me an orange kitten after we lost our pregnancy. She was awesome. Highly reccommend a therapy pet in times of grief.
Are people only watching the first thirty seconds of the video and then dropping comments about them being murders? The entire point was that there were serious complications involved if they weren't stillborn. So if there's a stillborn baby inside of you, and you have an abortion to have it removed, you're a murderer?
@N Mil THANK YOU
@N Mil - No, these women were faced with carrying a baby whose developmental condition was so severe, it would die soon after birth, possibly/probably suffering greatly. These are conditions like having no brain, or a severely deformed heart, or just "incompatible with life". The parents made a humane decision, aboveall for the good of their baby.
And this is why a woman might seek a 2nd or 3rd term abortion - NOT for convenience or contraception.
@Kimberly Perschka - Not everyone believes in your kind of God who has control over every single being on earth. A mother who believes that SHE is responsible for her baby's wellbeing, not God, would think preventing its suffering would be a kindness. Also, there are women whose mental health wouldnt survive having to carry a baby for 9 months knowing it would die at birth.
It must be very comforting having such a strong faith in an all-knowing God...putting your life in his hands, trusting his will, letting him make your decisions. I wish I had faith like that! But you should also understand those who live a secular life. If you are Chtistian, and truly follow Jesus' teachings, you wouldn't judge your neighbor so harshly. Try to understand another perspective. All women who choose abortion are not "murderers".
@N Mil - Exactly. Late term abortion is the exception! It's not widely or regularly practised.
@N Mil- What?
This is why we all need to engage in the political process and make sure women have the choice to do what's best for their health and family. Its NO ONE elses business.
Gabriel that is the reality, I believe abortion laws should be revised and reviewed. I don’t believe abortions are wrong, but also don’t believe it’s an acceptable form of contraception. I believe there should be a limit on the amount of abortions a women can get, and only being able to have multiple if its a medical issue. Where I live you can’t even get legal abortions if your baby is going to die within you, or born brain dead, that’s why I know the importance to have the right set of laws for women’s health. But again lives that have a future and life ahead even if the mother can’t support them, I do believe we shouldn’t just get rid of them like a pet in the pound. Because that is life and yes some lives get cut short some babies die in cot death but the opportunity for life, should be protected
Honesty Day How about promoting contraceptives, abortion is not a contraceptive btw, that’s terminating a pregnancy, and not blaming women for It when it takes two to tango. Maybe not shut down planned parenthood locations which provides free contraceptives, and also provide contraceptives readily that are inexpensive off the counter, then abortions wouldn’t happen in the first place. Also promotion of sex education because areas with the highest abortion rates and unwanted pregnancies also don’t provide sex Ed, or if they do they’re taught abstinence which is in no way shape or form adequate. Then you’d see rates go down, because it’s been proven that with more sex education and more contraceptives, the less unwanted pregnancies and abortions occur. No one wakes up and hopes to get an abortion. It’s a painful medical procedure. Banning abortion and limiting it is only tackling the surface and can cause more deaths and more abortions because women will look to unsafe forms of abortion.
louder for the people in the back
Jelly Bean Thank you for being a smart and reasonable person.
but it is ..its murdering a human. If that is the case, all murderers should be allowed out of prison. Its hypcoricy to suggest legal murder vs what we percieve illegal murder is somehow moral. What if I said murder as a whole should be legal? Also, most abortions arent meant for medical reason also doctors tend to be wrong...doctors based things off of outdated books.
This hits home on a similar level. When I was fifteen-twenty weeks along over 26 years ago, they wanted me term my pregnancy as it was risking both our lives. I also had two children that needed me as well. I decided keep on with my pregnancy which made it to 30 weeks. The decision was based on how my religious organization would’ve viewed me (which translates that I would be seen as detestable by god if aborted the pregnancy) and my hopefulness of a different outcome. Both my daughter Jessica and I were hospitalized apart from each other aside from an hour visit beginning on the 4th day of the first 7 days before I was released. She lived 12 days with severe complications from the heart to neurological while I struggled to get better myself. I made the decision to pull her from life support on Jan 1, 1994. I felt like I killed her as it was my choice and also knew it was the best thing for her as she would’ve kept suffering. I received little to no support from my religion once I let my daughter go in peace.
Whether you make the decision in the womb or out of the womb, it has the same impact especially when you want your baby in your arms. The physical pain and deep grief I felt for years. I still feel guilty as I lost a beautiful little girl named Jessica.
To all of the parents that made a decision similar to the parents in this video, we hear you and we are hugging your heart.
No one should be forced or guilted into making a decision based on one-sided laws.
I am so sorry you felt pressured to make that decision
Where you 15 with two other kids to look after. Wow that's crazy.
@@rach2007Eire she wasn’t fifteen years old, she was fifteen weeks into pregnancy lmao
I’m sorry for your loss, I’m in awe of your bravery - your community should’ve done better. You are not alone and your child is precious.
I’ve experienced almost everything those women have. I know how painful it is to hear that its not fair for baby to be born, and that its not fair on family either. My son’s brain had parts missing at 26 weeks and his right hemisphere wasnt developed. I was told he would be blind, have seasures, severy delayed, mute, have growth problems and might probably require feeding tube. However, I decided that Sebastian will be born. He is 16 months now. He is a big happy boy, understands perfectly 2 languages, speaks 10 words plus one sentence, walking with his trolley (will be walking soon his physio said). He feeds himself, sleeps all night, has great sense of humour. I want to add that his diagnosis was not a mistake, but the prognosis was.
So happy to hear this! This is exactly the point I want to make here, is that the doctor's prognosis is very often inaccurate. Hearing these women say, "the baby *likely* would have not survived, would have *probably* died at birth, not made it full term- these are not certainties! So many women give their baby a chance at life like you and find that the outcome is much different. I'm not trying to be hurtful but it's factual to say that baby's that would've survived and even thrived after birth we're likely killed here 😟 also feel the need to mention how horrendous a late term abortion is. Not going into detail but the info is out there.
@@jeannie1592 some conditions such as Trisomy 18 (not the inherited type but the spontaneous type) really are not survivable. A baby born with it will struggle for every breath inside a NICU incubator until it passes away a few days later. Most “late term abortions” are in fact labor inductions or c-sections. If the fetus makes it through delivery, then it can pass in the parents’ arms soon after. D&C (the procedure with the gory pictures that is bandied around by anti-abortion groups), is, as I understand it, only ever carried out if the fetus has already died, and for some medical reason an induced birth or c-section cannot be carried out.
@@sopyleecrypt6899 I do believe that abortion should be available for certain medical conditions. Just saying the prognosis doctors give is often inaccurate. A D&C is used for early term abortion and is performed on live embryo's, I'm sure in some cases deceased ones.
Thank you for sharing this.
A little update - Sebastian is now 25 months and passed an assessment of his neurologist as a normally developing boy. He is healthy, happy, smart and doesn’t stop talking 😊
Waaaaaaay overdue but thanks, Vice. You guys knocked this one out of the park.
"my arms physically ached" that took me out. 😢
I laughed my ass off 😂 we love abortions ❤️
@@penelopephelange Who is "we"?
@@penelopephelange Damn, if only your parents got one, world would've been a better place :(
This video made me bawl as soon as she said Karson. My sister was pregnant for the full 9 months and the morning the had contractions she went to the hospital and he was still born. His name was also Karson and it really brought back how horrible it felt to lose a child what wasn’t even mine. These women are so strong.
When I was a teenager, a family friend's daughter had to have two abortions because she was physically dying because her body rejected the pregnancies. She was determined not to have abortions, but she got down to 60 lbs the last time. That was 30 years ago and it still bothers her.
The fact that all these women are from Ga is amazing and let’s you know just how many more are out there going through the same thing
Annie S we’re all in a group together in Georgia because we share a strong bond.
They picked Georgians because it’s about a certain bill in Georgia
I have similar to almost exact history that happened to me this past march. I wish I had a group like that, that I can’t find here in my area
@@anavrin5245 I'm so, so sorry for what happened to you, love. I hope you find that support group 💕
I just lost a Grand-daughter at 3mo because she was "A not compatible Baby" and my Girls had to wait almost 2 weeks to have a Dr. take care of her, They wanted to have her even knowing she was not in good health, however she passed away after 3 weeks and I don't know why the Dr. made her wait 2 weeks. These women are right, No one wants to have to make that choice and No one should be allowed to make that choice for you. That is so personal it is not for public consumption that is some thing that should be between a woman and a man, Not the Government.
The government has to regulate this . People are already mis using this and clinics are selling baby body parts. And that's with it regulated .
Its between the mother and her creator.
@carolina hernandez elective abortion is never healthcare. These were not missed miscarriages, thesec babies were alive and deliberately killed. If you think that doctors deliberately killing is healthcare, you are also not pro-life.
@@kimberlydlapp3441 everyone who is involved in any anortion will have to answer to The Creator.
@@bseaingu I did
My son was born at 20 weeks but he was healthy. At 4.5 months he was viable and the pregnancy was killing me. I was hospitalized at 4 months and consider myself lucky. You can not judge these people for making a decision they felt was necessary. My heart goes out to them
Early delivery to save the mother’s life is not an abortion. 💙
@@katiesanders96 No not under normal circumstances, but who is defining “normal”
a close friendto me was having chest pains and went in to have it checked because she thought it was a bad torn muscle, and found it was a forming blood clot (she was 28 at the time) and unknowingly pregnant, she had to have an abortion because her blood clotting , later in her legs - was becoming an issue due to being pregnant.
That is saving the life of the mother. I’m pro life and that’s so unfortunate, but her life is important too.
When the one woman started crying about not being able to hold her baby I wanted to hug her.
just plain_name did you- did you watch the video-
@just plain_name
Wow, never met someone without a heart before, can't say it's a pleasure.
@Freddy Fazbear it was literally life or death, damn
@Freddy Fazbear alright, you tell your partner you're going to die, then imagine the guilt your child will have, then tell your family and friends that you're going to die, then consider it's not even a person who knows life unlike the mother who has goals and history and dreams, then come to terms with mortality and how you only have months to live.
Go through all that, then write in your will for someone else reply to me, because you'll be *dead*.
Then, I will accept that "people who support abortion don't love their children"
And if that's to harsh I apologize, but dude, why out of everything on this planet would you want to watch such an emotional, dare say touching video, and judge these poor women.
Like, I personally, don't reeeally like abortion in general, I feel like adoption is way better, but that's nuanced (also not my place to judge) what's not nuanced, is that a woman should not have die for a blob of dna.
And look, having conviction is fine, but it must be tempered with empathy, or it turns into cruelty.
she killed her kid, why would you feel bad?
I’m terrified that one day abortion will be illegal and I’ll have to go through a horrible pregnancy where my baby or I will suffer.
People always overlook women that want a baby so badly but have to get an abortion for whatever reason. These women are so strong and thank you for sharing your story.
Yeah the baby should only be aborted if it's dying in the womb or will definitely kill the mother. All other abortions should be banned in my opinion
It should be illegal
@@spencer_fife_and_drum_john9152 Even if the mother or child are in danger of dying?
@@fann.9874 That's when faith comes in. Yes- I was dying giving birth to my 3rd, but it was not my time. The Lord breathed life into my body , healed my body after the emergency c- section, the bleeding stopped and went on to have 2 more gorgeous children. If its not your time, it's not your time and the Lord will sustain your frame.
@@laurastreet7600 what’s in this video isn’t just a harder pregnancy, it’s children growing untreatably sick in the womb. Half of these stories ended in abortion because the baby literally died. None of the parents wanted this. They just didn’t want their child to suffer or risk their lives by carrying a dead foetus, which can lead to toxic shock. Did you ever think that God gave humanity the medical science for this to help save mothers?
Thank these women so much for sharing this. It must’ve been very hard and I salute them for all they’ve gone through. I’m a teen girl, I have no idea what it feels like to have an abortion, not to mention even a pregnancy, but their pain was so visceral and raw and real. I started crying when the lady said she thought she was selfish for wanting to continue to have her baby, ‘I wanted her, I needed her’ oh god the waterworks
After many IVF treatments one of my friends and his wife had to terminate the pregnancy they so desperately ached for. Their little girl wasn't going to survive and was suffering. They were both devastated but it was the best thing to do for their child.
I'm here 2 years after this documentary and I hope this bill has been revoked.
I'm French and things are definitely not all great here but I'm so glad I am where I am because changing the law like they did would end up in another revolution.
Love to everyone having to go through this pain ❤️
Abortion is going to be illegal in more than half of the USA, by the end of the year. There are so many people that are lacking empathy and punishing women.
I’ve lost a pregnancy I relate so much to that statement, “there was nobody to hold” Your actual arms ache & feel that emptiness. The heaviest empty I’ve ever had to carry.
"Every situation is so different that there can't be a hard and fast rule..."
That's spot on.
These women are so brave to openly share their stories. I cannot imagine being in their positions, wanting that baby _so badly_ but knowing they were doing what was best for their child... Thank you❤️
I was 7 weeks & I can only imagine the heartache you have had to go through and still do. I had to have an illegal abortion which was traumatizing. I did well & I have never had any regrets. How I would've felt if it were later I don't know. It should be completely up to the mother. It's her choice & she is responsible if the baby is born. Yes, abortion is not a happy choice.
I don’t think terminating a pregnancy is ever a happy choice. It’s absolutely medically necessary to have a D&C after a miscarriage or when a pregnancy isn’t progressing. “Nobody want’s to be there.” I had “blighted ovum’s” 3 times. Fortunately I did have a successful pregnancy a few years later.
You are right that every situation is unique.
I was an accidental pregnancy. Mom chose to keep me. And as much as she loves me, I know that my existence (and the birth of my siblings 10 and 14 years later with my father) ruined her life. She is pushing fifty now and it hurts my heart seeing how she has struggled to basically raise me as a single mom with a financially and emotionally abusive husband. She has been trapped-experiencing very little other than work and child-rearing activities-for almost 24 years now as a result of my birth. She has very few material belongings. I was born with psychiatric disease to the point of disability that presented at the tender age of 8. I’m grateful to be alive, yes, but I can’t imagine how much more wonderful her life would be without being chained to a life of nothing but struggle and stress.
these comments just make me remember that people are so cruel to one another, just makes me sad.
welcome to the real world
Because it’s murder ! Sometimes you have to trust God and do your part and have the baby
@@Pauwwhh many people don’t believe in god and i’m pretty sure my god wants people to be kind to everyone. i don’t know about yours though 🤷🏽♀️
@@Pauwwhh You are in for a very rude awakening when you meet your God. Have empathy.
@@cassibedford That’s no excuse, and like you said your God not the God of the Bible.
this a very private matter so the only thing u are allowed to do is listen. just listen and show sympathy.
PRESENT wow , well said , really
no.
PRESENT if it's private why is it on the internet and the comments are open to post?? I think they open themselves up to opinion and yes it's America still and freedom of ALL opinions should and can be expressed. There is not harm in commenting if they subject themselves to it
Tink R belle they just trying to share their private experiences so we can learn from it .That is listen to them.
Also what I mean is that they are clearly saddened by what they had to go through so we only HAVE to show sympathy .
Sorry this is a free planet and you don’t pay my bills so I can say what ever I want
We will have to put our baby boy to sleep at 22 week . This just breaks our heart . No amount of words can express the grief we are enduring. It’s funny how we know the time of our little one’s death . When they explained how they are going to stop his heartbeat and perform the surgery the next day . I will never recover from this pain . My first pregnancy and the biggest loss .
My daughter was pregnant with a baby boy (Azari), that had trisomy 13 which is non- compatible with life. We understand the decision you made and we will pray for you all. My gbaby Azari’s heart stopped at 14wks so my daughter didn’t have to decide to have him removed she had to have him removed. Don’t worry about what anyone says about your decision, don’t listen to them! People do not understand what it’s like to be faced with a decision like that. #angelbabiesinheaven#
"All pregnancies are not rainbows and roses". I can attest to that. Politicians and people who are pro-life don't care about me or you or our unique journeys to motherhood or the dark experiences of some pregnancies. They want to please whoever at the expense of the women who walk these dark roads. Hands off my uterus. I pray for peace for each of us.
All kids are not rainbows and roses and as parent I can attest to that but should the mother then have a right to eliminate their kids when they aren't rainbows and roses while raising them?
It's not your uterus people are concerned about but the human alive inside it that should have some rights and not be so callously killed after the fact as just some other means of birth control by some very monstrous mothers who don't care and others who are often being mislead into believing they are doing no wrong.
@@thegapman67 but of course you feel that you have the right to dictate what someone does with their body and their life. You feel so entitled to even venture to call them monsters. However, you feel that you have the right and power to police everyone else. Take that time and freedom to get your life and your house together. The gal of you to figure that you can be inside everybody while you would not dare allow others to restrict some of the base choices you make.
@@shawnee0718 I am not dictating anything but believe the role of government is to protect the rights of the people from others that don't honor such rights. A women does not have some inherent right to kill even if she is the mother. A person in the womb does have some right to life. If you think its just the body of woman when pregnant then you are ignoring proven science showing another growing human within.
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It's not just a women's body so not just some inherent right to do as she pleases when it involves someone else as well.
My life and house are together as I am very fortunate in that regard where my best years are decades behind me now. It's not about me. I am just trying to help with the myth of it just being some fetus thus giving a women some inherent right to kill it and get rid of it like as if it was yesterday's garbage. Woman should not be allowed the choice of killing others so callously. As that isn't some right but a violation of the rights of those being killed.
@@thegapman67 the fetus that exists solely on the life of the woman? The fetus that does not exist outside of that woman? Sir if you are so impassioned about a life, a life that exists unto itself has the right to exist. However, when the life exists on my life, you and your decades have no business dictating or entering into my medical record. Good day sir and good riddance.
shawnee0718 if I understand your use of logic, you are saying that the only thing that gives validity to human life is whether it can be sustained independently/without assistance or dependence!! Using that logic everyone on a ventilator can be “Terminated” because they are not viable on their own. You could even go so far as to say scuba divers lives can be terminated because they are dependent on tanks to remain alive! Correct because all humans dependent on another source to remain alive are eligible for termination! We could terminate newborns, too because using your logic they are dependent on their mothers to remain alive! The nerve of them! The elderly look very different at their stage of development and they are dependent on other humans to remain alive, too- so using your logic we have the right to terminate them,as well! Being dependent on another human for life equates to being eligible for termination using your logic! I think you’d better find some decent logic to back up your thinking! It’s ironic that God entrusted the most precious gift in the world to women (the provision for and protection of life during its earliest stages)and they want to use that privilege to do exactly the opposite and destroy human life. This is a twisted generation no different than those who offered their babies on the altar to Baal. That was the reason God instructed the Israelites todestroy those nations because it was an abomination to him! You know darn good and well from the moment of conception that is a separate human being from you (Half of the time even the opposite sex from you). It is dependent upon you for its nutrition the same as it will be the very day it’s born and suckles at your breast! Shame on you for cursing that! Whatever gave you the notion that your life has more value than your child’s? We are talking about basic human rights!
It's a complicated issue that should be solely the choice of the mother. Conservatives are usually all about choice... Can you afford caviar and champagne? If not then don't choose it. Except when it comes to abortion. Then choice goes out the window. You must do as we say! We don't care about your decisions no matter how difficult and how challenging it was. We want a theocracy... obey.
@@jamesrusselleriii8284 being pro choice doesn't make a man a male feminist..
@@Sp1n1985 if ur pro choice then there should be choice in not having vaccines too.. My body my choice... U cannot pick and choose what u want to allow others dictate what u want to put in or out of the body
veronica c you can’t be pro life and antivax at the same time. Pick your ideology and fuckin stick with it.
Once a woman is pregnant, she is an incubator. Nothing more. Her opinions at that point are worthless. The child is not her slave and thus her body is government property. Best to make abortion punishable by death penalty. Keeping the baby safe is the priority, and a forced birth (sedation would help) is all that’s needed.
@@veronicac5041
"if ur pro choice then there should be choice in not having vaccines too"
No, we shouldn't. You not vaccinating infringes other people's rights indirectly as your risk them getting an illness if you get it. Y'know, contagious diseases. For those who don't have a strong enough immune system to deal with vaccinations, this can become a life or death issue for a ton of people, and thus we have a responsibility to invoke these types of laws. Otherwise we'd have a public health crisis.
Look up herd immunity in the actual scientific literature as apposed to anti-vaccer nonsense.
This is how news should be. I love Vice. Interpersonal accounts of real issues and how they're affecting people. Great segment.
And have you read the stories of all the women that have had an abortion and are suffering 20 years after the event?
This is amazing watching now, knowing how late in the pregnancies women tend to get abortions. I had no idea it was usually 16-20 until after the Texas abortion law passed. Banning it after 6 weeks is just inhumane.
Most European countries don't allow elective abortions after 12 weeks.
@@ems3991 That's fucked.
That's not long enough. Too many women don't even know if they are pregnant yet. Then need time to make an appropriate decision. Time to get an appointment arranged.
Over 90% are 1st trimester.
th-cam.com/video/WKv5ABgqPTw/w-d-xo.html watch this video of a former abortionist explaining an abortion at 5-13 weeks the aim of the video is biased but the explanation of the procedure is not than make your own conclusion.
A lesson I am learning way too late is, opinions should be less said and more listened
Indeed
If people give less opinions then there won't be any to listen to
@@tomthumb6712 I believe they are referring to being a better listener
neat so like your opinion you're giving right now? stfu
bufunga ?????? What??
The terminology they use is so important!! The use of the word termination is crucial.
You mean murder
@@johnspinelli9396 did you even watch the video?
Have you heard of people that can die during birth? Chances are the kid dies too? So what's more important now huh? One human staying alive or risking both their lives?
Wait until its your turn... then you can let "others" judge you. Just like you judge them.
John Spinelli put yourself in these women’s shoes. Don’t be a prick
@@vladutirobi7553 can die very very rare
Our daughter had an induction at 22 weeks because the baby’s lungs had not developed and there were other problems, concerning fluid.
In the Uk it is not considered an abortion but a medical induction .
The staff treated her and her husband with great compassion and even had a cold cot for him to rest in. A charity donated cards etc .
It was a very traumatic experience, but the hospital staff were so extremely kind, and no one called it an abortion.
Medically necessary abortions should never be frowned upon especially when it can affect the mother and or the child. I think I have more of an issue with women who do it just to do it. These women in this video and your daughter obviously wanted their children and had to make a horrible decision. And that is heartbreaking for all of them.
They wouldn’t call it an abortion because it’s not one. Abortion= forced termination, ending the life of the baby. Induction= delivering a baby, either alive or stillborn. An abortion is never medically necessary. If the woman’s life is in danger and they need to deliver the baby and the baby dies, it’s not abortion because the death of the baby was an unintended consequence, not the goal, which is the case with abortion.
@@Lucy1. it makes sense. Thank you for explaining.
A necessary medical induction isn't an abortion. Your daughter didn't have an abortion. Also, I hope your family is doing well and that your daughter and her husband are ok. Prayers for you all.
@@emilytaylor5455 Many thanks. Yes God helped us over this tragedy.
They went on to have a healthy baby boy who is now 1 year old.
Thank you and God Bless .
I'm floored after hearing this video. I feel so much more educated about what woman and couples are going through. My stance was always anti-abortion. No longer.
This is a side of the argument i bet most are not familiar with. Birth, life generation, is an extremely complex life phenomenon, with MANY sides and angles to every persons story.
Samuel Rexroat The video is deceiving. They say that didn’t want their babies to suffer, but they did it in a way that was painful for the baby. These abortions are not painless. Jim Jones’s followers killed their born babies with a similar injection and they’re seen as murderers. They thought their kids would suffer in life so they killed their own children. The children cried in pain as they were dying. There is audio recording of this. This modern day example is similar. These parents didn’t want their babies to suffer, but the process of killing them was painful as well. It’s not a “humane” way to end a person’s life. Just like injecting cyanide in an infant would be inhumane. The woman who wanted to hold her child in her arms, COULD have done that. It’s called palliative care and it’s the most loving thing you can do for the baby. The baby doesn’t suffer.
just plain_name did you even watch the video? these babies would not make it out side of the womb. they most likely would have a slow death. you will never understand what these MOTHERS have gone through. this is not a choice they made suddenly. you have no option on what other women, other people, do with THEIR bodies. life is life until they are born and then no one seems to care. you are pro-birth, not pro-life.
No one understands how it all happens, what we feel, the grief we live in years after termination. It is such a difficult position to be in. The one thing (in my opinion) we have in common is that we don't want our children to suffer.
People have to understand the healthcare costs that go into having a child with a severe disability.It can get extremely expensive. Unless you're in poverty the government doesn't help.
It really doesn't make sense, if they wanted the children so badly why did they choose abortion? They thought they couldn't love a disabled child? Or that its life was worth less?
The disabled newborn would have died IF it even got that far. These were not pregnancies that would have resulted in newborns most likely, and then the newborn would grow up into a child but just disabled. It is so disgusting you are using such an ableist strawman.
@@cielonehellofaservicedog4648 How is it a strawman? That's what they're implying , otherwise why would they have aborted? And there are several stories in which doctors told women their children would be gravely disabled but the children ended up defying odds. In any case, if tthey didn't, isn't the true ableism in aborting a pregnancy because you don't want a disabled child?
A dear friend of mine participated in this. My heartbreaks for her and I admire her courage. All the rights carrying on about late term abortions is ignorant and cruel. No one decides to have a late term abortion on a lark. It's one of the most horrible decisions someone can have to make and it's no body's business but them and their doctor.
Your friend's participation took great courage. This has definitely changed my perspective.
My heart breaks for every one of these families. What an impossibly unfair decision to make. My love is with them.
And this is one main reason I am Pro-Choice. I pray for any mother and father who has to make this decision, it's not an easy one to make. I had to make it twice, 14 weeks and 18 weeks and it's not an easy flippant choice to make, but it was between me, my husband, my Dr. and God, and that was 28 and 25 years ago. I would have had 6 children, but was blessed with healthy 4 that I'm thankful for everyday. I pray for the women this day and age who have to bear the issue without a choice, and I pray they make it out alive, as some of these issues can be life threatening. And I pray they can find peace in their future. Like she said "NO one wants be there, in that position". And to those that judge and demand other women to not be allowed this choice, shame on you, shame on you. YOU don't walk their shoes, YOU don't have to walk away without your child, YOU don't carry the mental anguish of having to make a choice and living with it. YOU ARE NOT MY GOD OR MY JUDGE.....YOU should not be allowed to decide my own personal life altering choice. The Government is OVERSTEPPING their bounds in taking this decision away from women, and sadly we are allowing once again, for them to put us in our place. God speed to these families who have put themselves out there to tell the other side of the story.
Bless you all for sharing your stories. I’m sure you’ve been given so much grief for being open but if you’ve never been in that position it’s so hard to know how hard that decision is. When all you want is a baby to raise and you choose your own grief over their pain. I felt pressured far earlier than I wanted but ultimately it was my decision and what was right for us. We had done IVF. I paid to have that girl in my belly. I begged God to stop her heart so I don’t have to make that decision. I just don’t believe it’s fair to force parents to follow some rule based on politics and not the health of mom and baby. Mental health included.
I’m pro life but these women made the best decision they could as hard as it was
Saddens me to hear these stories
Peace and love to them
Abortion is the DIRECT and INTENTIONAL killing of a human being. That is the definition of murder. For the same reason we should not kill a child with a terminal illness outside the womb, we should not kill a child with a terminal illness inside the womb. The location of killing makes no difference.
Babies with lethal conditions deserve to be treated with the highest level of respect and compassion regardless of their medical condition. Dismembering a child by pulling off their arms and legs, destroying their bodies, and crushing their skull, etc is how we violate their bodies and their right to life when we abort them. What we SHOULD do instead is give those babies neonatal palliative care by alleviating any pain and discomfort with pain medications, oxygen, etc during the dying the process. It is never, ever justifiable to intentionally kill a baby.
g0ld3ngl0w19 have you even watched this video before commenting?
g0ld3ngl0w19 you do realize some of the mothers would die if they didn’t have abortions right?
I’m pro choice and had an abortion (raped and life was in danger).
Unless my life is in danger I wouldn’t terminate a pregnancy at 20 weeks! Or second trimester? Crushing their skull and ripping their arms and legs is more painful to the baby then delivering and let them die in peace (doctors help in dying or trying to let them live as long as possible) doesn’t matter. I just can’t crush my baby into shreds when it’s chilling safely inside my womb with full nervous system. But no judgement at all to these women I just can’t.
g0ld3ngl0w19
I have seen messed up kids being born
And them dying immediately after
I have seen many give birth to messed up kids and watch the medical establishment gradually crave up the kid
I have seen families tire and drop the kids off at hospital and never come and see them
I have seen families with no choice ...let them die
You have sooo much to say but you forget that you have modern medicine and a society that can tolerate all of this
But it wasn’t too long ago they would have let these nonviable babies die
Facts: the kid would not survive. Feelings: "Irresponsible! Baby murderer!"
Was that a fact? Really... if you were pregnant and your child had a 0.01% chance of living, wouldn't you hold on to that 0.01% with everything you have and give your child the very best chance of living? Regardless of the medical complications, I would hope that a MOTHER would choose life.
@@willluttrell4094 not if my wife would die
The opinion of the medical professionals while it should be taken seriously is an opinion not fact. But the baby is dead now so we'll never know
@@willluttrell4094 No uterus, no opinion.
@@vikingateez that's sexist.. In reverse the statement is "can't lift 50lbs for a 8 hr 5 days a week no voting rights"
I had a 20 week abortion and I don't EVER think about it. My life trumps a non existant being that would likely be quite handicapped due to the situation I was in when I got pregnant
To know your baby is not going to live at 20 weeks and advised to terminate is the hardest decision ever. To have to make that choice is heartbreaking and something that is in your heart always. To be placed in a hospital then a recovery room with woman that just had babies was the most hurtful and devastating experience that no woman should ever have to endure.
Thank you for sharing I am not alone.
I went through this a little over a year ago. Trisomy 18 and fetal hydrops was the diagnosis. It was a girl. I was about 14-15 weeks. Hardest decision I ever had to make
ashmb1979 🤗 you are a strong woman!! 💗
Allison thank you 🙏🏽 I think afterwards I experienced trauma for the first time
FABS thank you 🙏🏽
just plain_name so you think that’s the reason for every mother that has gone through this? Your comment was rude and completely uncalled for
I am sorry💗💗
I was skeptical at first, but watching the video. The pain, their kid would be dead or have a miserable life. I'm so sorry for their losses.
This is the situation where abortion is necessary or should be considered I feel so sorry for those poor parents.
Thank you to each parent who shared their stories. Each situation is unique and medical termination of a pregnancy is a decision that needs to ultimately be made by the mother with the guidance of facts by a doctor. There is no room for politics when making medical decisions about loved ones.
I am so disgusted that this is a “political issue”.
This is a HIGHLY personal medical “issue” that should be between the parent(s) and medical professionals.
I’ve never had to make a decision like this and REFUSE to judge anyone that has.
Absolutely disgusting that something so personal and serious is a public debate.
A lot of ignorant comments here. I would just like to say that I had an abortion at 8 weeks and I don't regret it. Safe, legal and free! Thank god for choice.
You're proud of killing your baby? You made a choice to kill your child because it wasn't convenient for you. You had options. Condoms are free. Birth control pills are free. You can go to your local health unit and get all the birth control you need for free. You can even get the morning after pill in case you made a mistake. The fact that you're proud of killing your baby is disgusting. And then you thank God? Abortion isn't something to celebrate.
@@kaiserkaiser2925 so then she should keep the baby if it managed to survive the pill, a condom, and the morning after pill. Her "struggle" shouldn't determine whether or not a person shouldn't be born. What if she aborted the brother of Jesus? "Oh there's no God blah blah" well if she aborted it we definitely wouldn't know that for sure right? What if the baby was would have grown up to find the cure for cancer, AIDS, or dementia? But we'll never know because it wasn't a convenient time for mom so she had the doctor suction it out.
Abortion is very common my friend, I have no doubt you know love and care about women who have had one. Be kind.
The Mindy Lynn condoms don’t work, always. And many people are allergic to latex and the other anti allergy condoms are not easy to find in stores. Also, have you ever been on hormonal birth control ? It’s hell. Especially for women with pre existing mental disorders. She’s not proud of killing her baby. She’s proud of preserving her own livelihood
Bridgetta Winchester true. 1/4 women we know have had one and will have one before 45, I believe is the statistic I heard. She definitely knows and loves people who have had an abortion , but they will never tell her. They know she’s too naive to handle it.
This changed my opinion on abortion tbh.
sophiathe1sstt It didn't change mine.
Yeah and 50mil were abortion since '73
Hasn't changed mine. We were told thatbour child would be born with a disability and if we wanted to test to make certain. We saud no, because regardless, we would carry out the pregnancy to term. Doctors are not God. In these situations, I get that their babies haf debilitating diseases, but i would've carried my child until i no longer couldn't, meaning anything from having to deliver early or stillborn. I would've wanted to do anything and everything i could do to make sure I could give my child a chance even if it meant a few moments, so no this doesn't change my mind about abortion. More women trrat it as a form of birth control than for medical emergencies, not even realizing that they either are or may be damaging their bodies for for future pregnancies they may wany to keep. There is nothing normal about taking a foreign object and scraping or sucking pieces of a living being out of your body unless you are an evil person. If the child passed away during the pregnancy that's different. "Deciding" to end a pregnancy aka life is playing God, period.
The video re-affirms my pro-choice stance ... these women are real people with real life issues that anti-abortion people will always ignore simply because they do not have to deal with those real problems and it inconveniences their simplistic moral positions ...
I'm RH negative and my body rejected my baby. I had to have an abortion in order to stay alive. I was becoming deathly I'll. I feel like these women. I still feel guilty.
This is such a hard and scary subject. I had a friend about 20 years ago that was 4 months pregnant when her ultrasound showed her baby boy had severe brain damage and was already mentally handicapped. Their Dr suggested an abortion, but because of their faith they decided to go full term instead of ending his life. He was born in the hospital, healthy with no problems. Not mentally handicapped and perfect from head to toe. No one can explain how this happened. I feel for every woman that must make this decision 😔
I know of several similar stories. Doctors make errors all the time and the ultrasound and other technology are not perfect .
I’ve known several friends as well. They are told their baby has a condition incompatible with life and the babies all come out fine. I miscarried my 2nd pregnancy in the early 2nd trimester. My child had PMP and Triploidy. I didn’t know all of this until I got the lab reports. I spent the next almost year in an oncologist office. Even though I had an unhealthy pregnancy, if I had found out something was wrong, I still would have carried as long as the baby was alive. I felt like something was wrong with this pregnancy bc I was so sick in many strange ways. I told myself though that every pg is different.
I was born with hydrocephalus im 25 years old im living a normal life
I am so glad that you are doing well. Unfortunately, often the condition prevents the normal development of the brain to varying degrees. In their particular case, they may have been able to see on ultrasound that the baby basically didn't have any brain tissue, which would be a sign that it would be born essentially braindead.
Sarah Greenslade- I for one am so happy your mother chose life! God Bless you!!!
@@rawhamburgerjoe there is a Hydrocephalus page on Facebook full of people who lives with hydrocephalus growing up and there's parents who never gave up hope now they have kids that were born with it. You can't always see accurately on ultrasound doctors are not always right in their decisions the doctors told my parents I wouldn't live a normal life I proved them wrong
@@traditionalcatholic4275 thank you I'm happy to live a normal life having hydrocephalus doesn't bother me
Every pregnancy is different! Not your place to judge.
I wish pro lifers would actually understand is no woman has an abortion lightly. There is A LOT of reasons why a woman has an abortion and it's not like it's there first choice. Hearing these stories are hard
Yeah. I have medical conditions in my family related to pregnancy, so I purposely miscarried.
The thing is that alot of woman not including these on here have sexual relationships getblregnant and go get abortions like getting a hamburger at in and out. When its cuz of medical issues its a different story
Yeah I'm for early abortions but am-not/was-not for late-term abortions but this video(and other sources I've looked at recently) have really opened up my eyes to why someone would get an abortion so late into pregnancy. It's not because "oh I changed my mind" or anything - it's mostly due to horrendous circumstances that would have seen the baby either die or live a traumatic life. What that woman said at the end about the fake image put up about the kids of women getting these abortions vs the reality was so impactful.
A lot of people think of abortion as a form of birth control which is very sad, especially in this time of casual sex and one-night stands and pornography
@@prayerwarrior3030 Nobody is doing that. Nobody is "using abortion as birth control". That's just what you tell yourself as an excuse to not listen to the real women who have had abortions.
I really appreciate these families sharing their stories I think it is unfortunate they have to share their pain. I can’t not imagine loosing a child.
All three of my pregnancies were horrible because I had Hyperemesis and went into pre-term labor with all of them. My second pregnancy was the most difficult a cyst burst and on my left ovary. The last words I heard my doctor say to me was I may wake without a baby. I didn’t know how many hours after surgery I woke up but the first thing I did was looked down to see if I was still pregnant. I am not super religious but I know that day God had worked a miracle through the doctors hands. My son was born on Easter in 2000. Politics had no place when it came to making my medical decision and it should never be a factor when you caring for your family.
At 8 weeks my adopted sons birth mother went in for an abortion. He miraculously survived but was born with a deformed arm. I adopted him and he is now a college student.