@Chris_Wooden_Eye little fella still had an air group and after the loss of the hornet and wasp the Saratoga not only sunk the ryujo but let the shokaku and zuikaku have it to except the other 2 limped out of the battle so badly damaged they were not seen again until early 1944 kudos to Saratoga airmen
@@donmckeoun7990 i'm gonna guess your talking about Santa Cruz Island. Part of the reason the Japanese carriers were not seen again until 44' was all the air groups were decimated. Guadalcanal was the meat grinder for both Navies but the US could replace losses better.
Maybe the same philosophy as their A6M Zero? Build light to make it more maneuverable/even faster? In the case of the Zero the point wasn't to protect the pilot if he was hit, but to protect him from getting hit in the first place Just a thought.
Your comment Pretty sure Ryujo and or Junyo brought dive bombers to the Aleutians so not sure if statement is correct stating the light carriers only carried fighter and torpedo bombers. Plane capacity per Wiki = 48 planes. Pretty sure both Ryujo and Junyo took 42 planes each also to the Aleutians.
Junyo did but not ryujo. In theory her capacity was 48. When commissioned. As planes got larger that number went down. Also carriers rarely carried their capacity. Pearl harbor comes to mind. That's was the exception not the rule. Another sign of pilot shortage.
navyreviewer pretty sure both did. See link below. Seems like Ryujo had 37 planes and Junyo 45 planes each to the Aleutians also and both including dive bombers. I’ve seen others which showed 42 each. 20 fighters for both and 11 dive and 11 torpedo bombers each. Junyo is a light carrier also anyhow so the IJN light carriers did have dive bombers. Don’t think issue was size capacity either when it came to limiting planes. It was more “weight”. So even in the situation of Pearl Harbor they had to load the carriers with multiple additional bombs. Usually the ratio was 1/3 fighters, 1/3 dive bombers and 1/3 torpedo bombers. Later in the war both realized it as better to have more fighter planes. The IJN should have loaded their carriers with more fighter planes during Midway and instead shell the Islands with their battleships after a smaller initial bombing run. This would have allowed more planes on to each carrier to begin with. The IJN didn’t have a shortage of planes or “fighter” pilots in 1942. Like your videos. Keep up the good work. 👍 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_the_Imperial_Japanese_Navy_Alaskan_Strike_Group
@@f430ferrari5 transporting isn't the same as operating. the idea was that by running only long range planes the vulnerable Japanese carriers could strike but not be stricken. B5N and A6M2 had much greater range than U.S. carrier based aircraft. Val didn't, which is why Japan didn't use Vals operationally on their light carriers.
Ann Onymous what are you taking about. You’re trying to say the IJN entered enemy waters to the Aleutians and used Ryujo and Junyo as “transports”? I don’t think so. Also the IJN finished building Carrier Hiyo in July 1942 and also completed 3 escort carriers in Aug 1942 so highly doubtful they were short on air crew at this stage.
The Clinton regime tried to push mini-carriers at the beginning. The Secretary of Defense, Les Aspin, wanted military budget cutting. He pushed for small carriers to replace the Nimitz class. Just as incompetent as Bob McNamara in the sixties. I was ship's company aboard Nimitz, for the Iran hostage raid and later in a squadron aboard George Washington. There is no was an itty bitty 'Aspin class' bird nest would work with new planes. I refer to them as bird nests as bird farm would denote competence.
Bonjour a tous du Canada When you give the weight of ship don't forget American used short tonne 1,800 pounds per tons the British & commowealt like us Canada 1 tons=2,000 pounds the japanese used metric tons 2,200 pounds per tons it's a big differences
Great vid, the Ryujo is my favorite Japanese carrier. I really like her design.
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Its sad that theres no 1/350 scale model of this carrier
Ryujo sunk by planes from the Saratoga in late 1942
@Chris_Wooden_Eye little fella still had an air group and after the loss of the hornet and wasp the Saratoga not only sunk the ryujo but let the shokaku and zuikaku have it to except the other 2 limped out of the battle so badly damaged they were not seen again until early 1944 kudos to Saratoga airmen
@@donmckeoun7990 i'm gonna guess your talking about Santa Cruz Island. Part of the reason the Japanese carriers were not seen again until 44' was all the air groups were decimated. Guadalcanal was the meat grinder for both Navies but the US could replace losses better.
@@MrChickennugget360 yes I was thinking about Santa Cruz but I do believe the other 2 carrier's were damaged bad
I really want to understand the light build idea. They had to know that this would cause problems, with battle damage at least.
Maybe the same philosophy as their A6M Zero? Build light to make it more maneuverable/even faster? In the case of the Zero the point wasn't to protect the pilot if he was hit, but to protect him from getting hit in the first place Just a thought.
And they were 'helped along' by treaty size limitations of course.
I guess iz was built for supporting landings and other units nearby.
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Pretty sure Ryujo and or Junyo brought dive bombers to the Aleutians so not sure if statement is correct stating the light carriers only carried fighter and torpedo bombers.
Plane capacity per Wiki = 48 planes.
Pretty sure both Ryujo and Junyo took 42 planes each also to the Aleutians.
Junyo did but not ryujo.
In theory her capacity was 48. When commissioned. As planes got larger that number went down. Also carriers rarely carried their capacity. Pearl harbor comes to mind. That's was the exception not the rule. Another sign of pilot shortage.
navyreviewer pretty sure both did. See link below. Seems like Ryujo had 37 planes and Junyo 45 planes each to the Aleutians also and both including dive bombers. I’ve seen others which showed 42 each. 20 fighters for both and 11 dive and 11 torpedo bombers each.
Junyo is a light carrier also anyhow so the IJN light carriers did have dive bombers.
Don’t think issue was size capacity either when it came to limiting planes. It was more “weight”.
So even in the situation of Pearl Harbor they had to load the carriers with multiple additional bombs. Usually the ratio was 1/3 fighters, 1/3 dive bombers and 1/3 torpedo bombers.
Later in the war both realized it as better to have more fighter planes.
The IJN should have loaded their carriers with more fighter planes during Midway and instead shell the Islands with their battleships after a smaller initial bombing run. This would have allowed more planes on to each carrier to begin with. The IJN didn’t have a shortage of planes or “fighter” pilots in 1942.
Like your videos. Keep up the good work. 👍
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_the_Imperial_Japanese_Navy_Alaskan_Strike_Group
@@f430ferrari5 transporting isn't the same as operating. the idea was that by running only long range planes the vulnerable Japanese carriers could strike but not be stricken. B5N and A6M2 had much greater range than U.S. carrier based aircraft. Val didn't, which is why Japan didn't use Vals operationally on their light carriers.
@@f430ferrari5 by July 1942 (after Midway) Japan in fact is already running out of trained aircrew.
Ann Onymous what are you taking about. You’re trying to say the IJN entered enemy waters to the Aleutians and used Ryujo and Junyo as “transports”? I don’t think so.
Also the IJN finished building Carrier Hiyo in July 1942 and also completed 3 escort carriers in Aug 1942 so highly doubtful they were short on air crew at this stage.
The Clinton regime tried to push mini-carriers at the beginning. The Secretary of Defense, Les Aspin, wanted military budget cutting. He pushed for small carriers to replace the Nimitz class. Just as incompetent as Bob McNamara in the sixties. I was ship's company aboard Nimitz, for the Iran hostage raid and later in a squadron aboard George Washington. There is no was an itty bitty 'Aspin class' bird nest would work with new planes. I refer to them as bird nests as bird farm would denote competence.
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Bonjour a tous du Canada When you give the weight of ship don't forget American used short tonne 1,800
pounds per tons the British & commowealt like us Canada 1 tons=2,000 pounds the japanese used metric
tons 2,200 pounds per tons it's a big differences
This carrier is weird