That is s perfect analogy. "What you have is a shape". With Tally - ho there was a lot of debate as to whether you are just building a new boat or restoring an old boat. The spirit of the original vessel is in the shape. With hopefully a smattering of the old vessel.
How nice for once to hear from a man who very much knows what he is talking about, and equally or perhaps even more important is able to explain it in a concise and understandable fashion. Well done sir!
Never gets old to see a wooden boat being built! Thanks for telling the story and adding the descriptions that explain the reasons things are done as they are. 🙂
What glue did you use for the steamed frames? It might be a service to the community at large if you gave some accounting of man hours actually needed in total and maybe trade by trade. North Star is lucky to have a committed new owner and to be in the hands of a capable yard.
I am one of the daughters Foster daughters that lived on this beautiful boat for 14 years my name is Kayla Bruce and Sheila where my foster parents it's been amazing and hard to watch all of this I was wondering if it's any way possible to get any pieces left for memory
@@JesseDunseith They are laminated after they’ve been bent in place. They’re bent in place as stacks, once the shape is there they’re taken down and laminated with west systems.
@@FavouriteBoatworksI was wondering about this too. The laminations look completely stuck together when they go on the boat. I may be trying this technique on my boat if I can't source good enough lumber for solid bent frames.
I'm surprised that the lines of the hull weren't taken while she was still in the water. They then could have been drawn and analyzed for irregularities and corrected. Then frames cut to the lofted lines as a new boat. Doing it out of water frame by frame while trying to hold her shape which probably isn't correct anyway doesn't seem right to me.
Why not just build a new boat and use what you can from the old. I found your channel from watching the tally ho rebuild It is the same process. Is it because of shaping the new timbers is easier to match with the old boat intact? Is it just the dimensions and shape that make it a restoration. I do not have much knowledge of boats just enjoy the woodworking. Enjoying the videos and can’t wait for the next.
Essentially that is what’s happening here,piece by piece the boat is being replaced with new wood with the goal of retaining the shape of the original structure.This is what separates a “new build” from a “restoration”.
In this case there are no drawings of the boat, if she was demolished it would be incredibly hard to rebuild and it would take a lot of unnecessary effort to generate detailed drawings to work from. This way we can pattern one piece, remove it, make a new one, put it back over and over without loosing shape or needing to put in all that extra work to have drawings made.
Aluminum and Steel can be Welded, Wood you can not. replacing the Core of an modern Fibreglass Boat still counts as the same boat. And if you cant or Want to Maintain it you end up with a Rebuild. And dont forget the Whole Lofting Process being Skiped. But then we talk about the Nation with the Treat it like a Rental (i dont own it so i just borrow and trash it lol not my problem lmao) Mentality.
@@cpt.mirones5109 If an aluminum, steel, ferrocement, or composite boat was this badly damaged they would either break it up, or park it as a museum piece. With old wooden boats the romance has people building a brand new boat the hard way just to call it a restoration.
The steambox is about 6 feet from the bow, in this case they're framing closer to the stern and thus using the side entrance is a lot handier VS trying to get through a bunch of tight scaffolding
This just sort-of showed up in my feed.
I'm one minute and two seconds in, and I am subscribing. 👍🏻
Awesome! Thank you!
That is s perfect analogy. "What you have is a shape". With Tally - ho there was a lot of debate as to whether you are just building a new boat or restoring an old boat. The spirit of the original vessel is in the shape. With hopefully a smattering of the old vessel.
How nice for once to hear from a man who very much knows what he is talking about, and equally or perhaps even more important is able to explain it in a concise and understandable fashion. Well done sir!
James is full of knowledge, a true mariner.
Been at it since he was a young buck!!!
Never gets old to see a wooden boat being built! Thanks for telling the story and adding the descriptions that explain the reasons things are done as they are. 🙂
Thanks for watching!
Great history part about Egyptian boats
It's a pretty cool technique they used hey!
More beautiful work ! I love this channel. Thank you
Glad you like it!
Really great presentation!
The presentation really helps tie in the work that has been done.
Such a wonderful project and production
Thank you!
Another well done episode!!
Thank you for the restoration.
Amazing and well spoken .
Thanks for sharing. Very informative.
This surely will add fuel to the debate over whether a boat is original or replica. But the work and the result are still beautiful.
No. Common sense can tell that seeing this. If it was beside a replica could you pick the replica out is the question
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Wow!
What glue did you use for the steamed frames? It might be a service to the community at large if you gave some accounting of man hours actually needed in total and maybe trade by trade. North Star is lucky to have a committed new owner and to be in the hands of a capable yard.
West system 105
@@FavouriteBoatworks thanks . It is impressive that it could withstand steaming .
@@FavouriteBoatworks i’m assuming the frames get steamed into place, removed for adding the epoxy and then refitted?
I am one of the daughters Foster daughters that lived on this beautiful boat for 14 years my name is Kayla Bruce and Sheila where my foster parents it's been amazing and hard to watch all of this I was wondering if it's any way possible to get any pieces left for memory
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/awesome stuff! what are the new frames laminated with that allows them to be steamed
@@JesseDunseith They are laminated after they’ve been bent in place. They’re bent in place as stacks, once the shape is there they’re taken down and laminated with west systems.
@@FavouriteBoatworksI was wondering about this too. The laminations look completely stuck together when they go on the boat. I may be trying this technique on my boat if I can't source good enough lumber for solid bent frames.
@@SavingMaverick55it’s a good idea but uses a lot of epoxy
@@AtyaAndJ No doubt but I say it's a small price to pay to not waste time and fuel only to have frames snap as you try to bend them into the boat.
@@SavingMaverick55 what size ribs do you have? Is it a massive ship?
I'm surprised that the lines of the hull weren't taken while she was still in the water. They then could have been drawn and analyzed for irregularities and corrected. Then frames cut to the lofted lines as a new boat. Doing it out of water frame by frame while trying to hold her shape which probably isn't correct anyway doesn't seem right to me.
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Why not just build a new boat and use what you can from the old. I found your channel from watching the tally ho rebuild It is the same process. Is it because of shaping the new timbers is easier to match with the old boat intact? Is it just the dimensions and shape that make it a restoration. I do not have much knowledge of boats just enjoy the woodworking. Enjoying the videos and can’t wait for the next.
Essentially that is what’s happening here,piece by piece the boat is being replaced with new wood with the goal of retaining the shape of the original structure.This is what separates a “new build” from a “restoration”.
In this case there are no drawings of the boat, if she was demolished it would be incredibly hard to rebuild and it would take a lot of unnecessary effort to generate detailed drawings to work from. This way we can pattern one piece, remove it, make a new one, put it back over and over without loosing shape or needing to put in all that extra work to have drawings made.
Leo’s theory was as long as you can see a boat during the rebuild ,it is the same boat. The ship of Theseus or Washington’s axe paradox.
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they did have horses and chariots not to mention shanks pony.
It always surprises me when folks restore a wooden boat by replacing all of the wood ship of theseus style.
Aluminum and Steel can be Welded, Wood you can not. replacing the Core of an modern Fibreglass Boat still counts as the same boat.
And if you cant or Want to Maintain it you end up with a Rebuild. And dont forget the Whole Lofting Process being Skiped. But then we talk about the Nation with the Treat it like a Rental (i dont own it so i just borrow and trash it lol not my problem lmao) Mentality.
@@cpt.mirones5109 If an aluminum, steel, ferrocement, or composite boat was this badly damaged they would either break it up, or park it as a museum piece. With old wooden boats the romance has people building a brand new boat the hard way just to call it a restoration.
Ear defenders that don't touch your skin forming a seal - _DON'T WORK!_
Ear muffs work great!
Ear muffs work great
@@Deanmachine667 No, you just _think_ they do - see you at the ear clinic in ten years!
You’d think they’d be competent enough to put the steam box closer to the job.
The steambox is about 6 feet from the bow, in this case they're framing closer to the stern and thus using the side entrance is a lot handier VS trying to get through a bunch of tight scaffolding
Please, please, please tune that guitar! Ruins the whole otherwise well done product.