Dungeon Saga Origins Review: Homage is the Sincerest Form of Flattery

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  • @aaronmoore54
    @aaronmoore54 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Tom: “How do you do, fellow kids?”

  • @danm830
    @danm830 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    In a nutshell, it's a classic-style dungeon crawler to play with your family. The challenge comes from the quests themselves (and increases as you go) instead of a very complex ruleset.

  • @DVCBear
    @DVCBear 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I backed and find this meets my what I was looking for. Was looking for a simple game that I did not have to think a ton about to play. Really enjoying it. A good break from ATO, KDM, DUN, and League of Dungeoneers. Also enjoy the solo play.

  • @glow2hi
    @glow2hi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    seeing tom with a beanie feels so weird

    • @mcstabba
      @mcstabba 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yes, he has been dressing like a Batman villain for years and now this.. have we ended up in some horrific mirror universe all of a sudden?

  • @TableTopTransformer
    @TableTopTransformer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I think there's room for heroquest and this.
    Both do similar things, but have enough differences that you don't need both.
    I'm not entirely sure what would be hard about lining dice up

  • @oviaelectronica
    @oviaelectronica 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This is Zombicide Black Plague in a dungeon, family weight edition. No fiddly rules, tons of content (minis are fantastic quality) and plenty of room for roleplaying with your kids as the Overlord. I get the the look of the game might indicate something more "gamery", and this review sounds more like a comparison to Descent or Massive Darkness which is to miss the mark. IMO It would have been a much more usable review if it was treated like Cora Quest, Adventure Tactics etc.

  • @ramonosuke
    @ramonosuke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Always glad to see Joey in more vids, lately! This doesn’t look terrible, and sometimes a simpler dungeon crawl is some thing I crave. Also the minis look pretty solid. At worst, it’ll be good components for a custom D&D campaign

  • @wingman15
    @wingman15 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I backed this and enjoy it. I am playing with 4 other adults and everyone is enjoying it. Yes it's simple, but we have found it fun to play. I never played HeroQuest so I can't compare it to that. Thanks for the review. Appreciate your honesty.

  • @robertswenson9181
    @robertswenson9181 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They definitely gave sneaky credit: the original Dungeon Saga said "HERO: your QUEST begins here" on the back of the box.

  • @DrDribs
    @DrDribs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Economy is bad when Tom starts robbing gas stations.

  • @PM-xc8oo
    @PM-xc8oo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I actually really like that this is Heroquest but with just a bit of extra meat on the bones and enough to the rules that I feel like more can be done with future expansions than with Heroquest. I find that a lot of dungeon crawlers are just waaaayyy too complicated and take far too long to set up and play for my tastes despite enjoying the core gameplay loop of a dungeon crawler.

    • @Fadeslayer
      @Fadeslayer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Isn't this game complete with all-in package from the Kickstarter? I read there are no planned expansion in the future...

    • @PM-xc8oo
      @PM-xc8oo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Fadeslayer I don't think they've said that there won't be expansions. They are working on a web based software companion which I doubt they'd do if there was no chance of future expansions.

    • @Fadeslayer
      @Fadeslayer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PM-xc8oo I read this on reddit, I don't have first hand news on it

    • @PM-xc8oo
      @PM-xc8oo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Fadeslayer it is entirely possible that there may be new information but at least initially I think the plan was to do expansions. I guess if it didn't sell well that might be the case.

  • @Sammo212
    @Sammo212 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I will add that this game IS simplistic and this game DOES market itself as a good family friendly, starter dungeon crawler. I think there is room for this and Heroquest.

  • @JustinandHanna
    @JustinandHanna 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What universe is this Tom variant from?

  • @Syko1985
    @Syko1985 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Basically, if you love Heroquest you will love this, likely even more so. But the bottom-line is there a ton more dungeon crawlers that do everything better, out there.

    • @spamerling833
      @spamerling833 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah, but it was designed with for kids in mind.
      Therefore it fits the gap for other games which are too complex.
      Tried it with other games the last months but DSO filled the sweet spot for my partner (who isn't in games) and the kids

  • @dryuhyitadza-nl5zh
    @dryuhyitadza-nl5zh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Is that really tom vasel? 😅

  • @sebastiang.5032
    @sebastiang.5032 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This review feels a bit bare boned or is the game really that bland? Is there no character growth, no equipment, no magic system...? 😮

    • @tiredguy2753
      @tiredguy2753 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      There is equipment and magic. There is character growth in the form of boons that are one use then you can rebuy again later. Overall if you are looking for a simple, more family oriented dungeon crawl then the game is solid. If you are looking at this as the next league of dungeoneers, gloomhaven, descent etc... then yeah you are going to be disappointed.
      Also combat is very easy to resolve, so I am not sure why this review spent so much time on combat being fiddly/hard to resolve. It is essentially one opposing die roll. With this review you almost think the combat resolution is something like warhammer with roll to hit, roll to wound, roll to save etc...- No you roll once and that is it.

    • @spamerling833
      @spamerling833 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Honestly I prefer dungeon crawlers without character growth, equipment and special magic.
      Keep it simple^^
      DS:O includes all of the three points but is on a low level. So its okay and the kids like it. More than the actual version of Descent

    • @tiredguy2753
      @tiredguy2753 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@spamerling833 then I would say this game is pretty close to what you are looking for.

    • @danno4729
      @danno4729 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tiredguy2753yes combat is very similar to Risk, which everyone has played. It’s easy to remember, yet intriguing, imho.

  • @ferretnuclear
    @ferretnuclear 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Seriously?! HeroQuest is a terrible game that survives on our nostalgia alone. This is a quite a bit more fun that HQ ever was...

  • @crushingit5128
    @crushingit5128 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Every time I hear about a game that is about paying homage to HeroQuest I cringe because it may as well be another Monopoly reskin game release.
    HeroQuest did not age well (as Tom often says) considering today's boardgames, and while I can appreciate DSaga direct simplicity, I don't appreciate the lack of trying something new.

  • @drittz7840
    @drittz7840 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Shame this didn't hit the mark. Mantic did say they designed it to be simple and something you can play with your kids. For me it just looks too simplistic and doesnt seem to do much over heroquest.
    I did back the first edition and still haven't played it. I will say Mantics miniatures have vastly improved.

  • @JonReid01
    @JonReid01 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Nice hat 😂

    • @UnimatrixOne
      @UnimatrixOne 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope

    • @RandomPerson-nd2ey
      @RandomPerson-nd2ey 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@UnimatrixOne (that's why they added the laughing emoji)

    • @UnimatrixOne
      @UnimatrixOne 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RandomPerson-nd2ey I know😋

  • @RedCubTX
    @RedCubTX 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Just wanted to make a comment that the original Dungeon Saga games are more complex than Origins, and make sure you don't get the wrong version if this simple one looked interesting to you.

    • @KarrasATX
      @KarrasATX 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dungeon saga is mediocre at best. This seems no different.

    • @TinyTactician
      @TinyTactician 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      chill lol

    • @VaultBoy13
      @VaultBoy13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KarrasATXAnd, yet, it still looks better than HeroQuest.

  • @crazyvolucris
    @crazyvolucris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Concerning the enemy’s: you can use the random monster card and encounter all the monsters available in the box 😎

  • @stevepearce5206
    @stevepearce5206 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    loved hero quest and advanced hero quest even more, might look into this :/

  • @thomasphillips6131
    @thomasphillips6131 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm loving Tom in a beanie!

  • @richarddeyoung943
    @richarddeyoung943 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    like the game love the figures i know Mantic is got big plans for this game alot of things coming in the next year

  • @exodous02
    @exodous02 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mantics board pieces are always way too colorful and busy. Their miniatures are always amazing though, like Games Workshop quality. I never like their rules though. I always buy their games for their cool miniatures and use them for other games.

  • @misomiso8228
    @misomiso8228 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:22 what more complex Dungeon Crawlers you would recommend?

    • @crazyvolucris
      @crazyvolucris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dungeon Universalis/ League of Dungeneers
      Other Theme: Shadows of Brimstone

    • @Fullofpies
      @Fullofpies 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mansions of Madness for a Lovecraftian one.

    • @stevemarshall4822
      @stevemarshall4822 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mice and Mystics

    • @danderson5084
      @danderson5084 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@crazyvolucrisThese are far away at the other end of the scale, not just slightly more complex.

  • @tomfagrell7357
    @tomfagrell7357 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why would you not be allowed to play Hero Quest??!!

    • @alcovitch
      @alcovitch 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably religion.

  • @gbdomingo
    @gbdomingo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tom where’s ur hat!!!

  • @jasonnewell7036
    @jasonnewell7036 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first edition was a better and more complex game. Also why do a square grid facing but not have square bases?
    It is certainly no Descent: Journeys in the Dark.

  • @koalabrownie
    @koalabrownie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is tom wearing a toque?

  • @denzev612
    @denzev612 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought this because of miniatures 😅😅

  • @Fullofpies
    @Fullofpies 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is perfect, I've bought so many dungeon crawlers (gloomhaven) that are needlessly over stuffed or complex. I want to kill skeletons and goblins with dice in a modular dungeon.

  • @jonazo7188
    @jonazo7188 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Don’t listen to the haters Tom, you got drip!

    • @thedicetower
      @thedicetower  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      When I think of Tom, I think of the word "rizz."

  • @Uthe007
    @Uthe007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's some weird stuff in this game. Definitely not for kids.

  • @MichaelJones-yp8gj
    @MichaelJones-yp8gj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best thing about Heroquest is that it’s better than this game