I never been to Six Flags America however the fact that it has forests surrounding the park makes me believe it has potential to offer some epic night rides if the right coasters are built in the right spots.
@@TP_Recommendations oh big time! Imagine if Roar gets the RMC treatment the park could build a new ground up wood coaster (GCI/gravity group) to go into the woods. Big opportunity!
@@quentenmajoor5861 If they add a new ground-up woodie, it'll probably be an **out-and-back GravityKraft** (they need a solid family thrill coaster that's not as intense as Ragin' Cajun') behind Mind Eraser (would fit in great with the steampunk theme they're going for), going up to Superman. There's no way SFA is getting anything huge - KD will be getting more attention when the merger's finalized.
People have been asking for RMC Roar since RMC started reimagining coasters. I hope it happens and they don’t just “new trains and titan track” it. That’s not enough. They honestly should have just replaced Mind Eraser with a P’sghetti bowl coaster and make that steam town area more family oriented, then RMC Roar in 2025, like you said. But that all costs more money than the bare minimum, which is what SFA usually operates on. You’re right, it would attract WAY more people in the area if the park got more love: better security, better operations, a couple new rides/coasters, refurbishing their existing rides, etc etc …But, i’m not holding my breath on that. In a perfect world, they RMC Roar, scrap Mind Eraser and Batwing-Replacing both with new gen Vekoma STC and launched Flying coasters, and give all older coasters new trains and retracking. That’d be like $50 Million though. Lol so, that’ll never happen… 😢
SFA is going to be even lower in the pecking order if/when the merger is finalized. And an RMC of Roar just wouldn't compete well with Wildcat's Revenge. Assuming Six Flags does keep the park, they'll do everything they can to differentiate it from KD. That means removing Flight of Fear from KD and ideally relocating it to WoF. And is SFA probably better off adding a couple Titan Track inversions and Infinity Flyer trains to Roar. Same goes for Boss at STL.
I would love this for my home park, unfortunately, I don’t see it happening. They’re closing whistlestop park forever and are relocating some of the kiddie rides to other sections of the park. They just removed zydeco zinger and it is rumored that fireball is being removed as well since it was removed from the fright fest map and closed almost all year. The water coaster that was marketed for a summer 2023 opening didn’t start construction until late August and the park didn’t even acknowledge it. The steamtown upgrades are cool, but it wont increase attendance. They took away holiday in the park and now they are the only park in the area that doesn’t have a winter event. They let kings dominion and Hershey beat them to getting RMC hybrids. Batwing’s shelf life will probably be ending in the next 5 years. Most of the coasters ran 1 train all season and lines still didn’t exceed 20 mins. I will say the park has stepped up its entertainment this year, but the park definitely gets boring after a couple hours. I honestly think the park is better off selling and rebranding because the park’s reputation has gone downhill since the mid 2000s, especially with the better park options in the area.
i agree they need something bad, and they really need to improve on keeping rides open. Last time i was there half the rides were closed or kept breaking down.
I agree with your point, Six Flags America has such low attendance and very little capital being put into the park. They’ve gotten rides that are relocated from another park or rides that can easily be relocated. I hope Six Flags can bring some much-needed love to this park in the next few years.
I hope they do something with the park. I used to love going their as a kid when I live in Maryland. I still remember when it was Adventure World with the Cal Ripken commercials lol
@@danielmott8998 I wonder if they'll refurbish the Grizzly Run because they wasted no time dismantling the Giant Wheel and Heave Ho, and left Grizzly Run basically untouched, heck, even the rafts are still in the area.
I agree about the low attendance at Six Flag America. "If they build it then people will come". I live in Northern Delaware and consider Great Adventures my home park but I could also go to Six Flags America too and be there in like 1 and 1/2 hrs, plus or minus. Heck, I just went to baltimore to meet a friend for seafood brunch last week. I did go to Six flags America one time but I was in the parking lot and the energy felt so drab, there was no greeting from a coaster line, no one seemed excited. So, I drove back to Delaware and never went inside. Mind you, going inside would not have cost anything extra because I have an SFGadv season pass
Same area. It’s literally the same amount of time to get to SFA, SFGAd or Hershey. I have been to SFA cause I was down there for a race but half the rides were down. Heck I had tried to go another time since I was again in the area for a race, showed up, the app said the park was open and there was no announcement on Facebook, but it wasn’t open. They have a staffing issue worse than other parks if you ask me. Why go down there for it when there’s better parks just as far? Heck even Dorney isn’t that much further
Realistically, the best thing Six Flags could do is work with Intamin to add a fresh coat of paint to Superman, plus some airtime pops, tunnels, and headchoppers (Fortress-of-Solitude-themed) to the helix. That would do much more for the park than RMC'ing Roar - it'd be very tough to top both Wildcat's Revenge AND Twisted Timbers. So making their marquee coaster a true standout hyper is probably the best bang for their buck. Adding a couple Titan Track inversions and Infinity Flyer trains to ROAR probably makes the most sense there.
SFA just has one of the worst operations out of any amusement park in the US. Rides are always closed or breaking down. As well as crowds are just rude. Sad that this is my home park. At least Hersheypark isn't too far away.
Gee, I wonder why?... First, when speaking about SFA, giving the it's location alone, people already have a profiling mentality about it. Second, they're willing to travel in additional 90 minutes to up to 3 hours, towards another theme park, trying to avoid visiting to Six Flags America. Third, without the proper attendance, thier operating budget remains small, and working with that small sum of corporate money, thier operations, efficiency, training, and up keep maintaining are at a bare minimum, thanks to immature people's mindset. Additionally, they're wondering why, or complaining about SFA, don't get any multi-million dollar new attraction for the following seasons.
@@nancyfarkas3592 I'd agree with you on some of that statement, but SFA is just notoriously filled with rude GP. Not a park I would want to bring my kids to. Mainly because of the lack of filter most GP have there.
I just came back from California and I thought Joker was an incredible mid-tier RMC. I would love to see a similar model here--if that's their goal with Roar
My home park is one that I used to actually tout as an underrated gem, but lately with the changes taking place, the park has been pretty poor. I sure hope they will do something to pull this park back together. It was never a major draw for the area, so I can understand why it doesn’t seem to get much attention, but that doesn’t mean it can’t.
I'm on the opposite spectrum regarding SFA. They only get relocations or rides that can easily be relocated. Like you said the location is insane which makes the land this park sits on worth a fortune. I personally think SF has and is continuing to consider selling the park for the land. I think they've been in the "maybe maybe not" phase for years now. Honestly since Batwing there is nothing that indicates they were ever really committed to this park, despite all of the parks around them continuing to grow and improve.
Yes, the land is valuable, but I don't think they'll get rid of the park unless the DOJ forces them to in order to approve the merger. Herschend or Merlin might be interested in buying to take advantage of the DC market, but it requires substantial investment and rebranding. Otherwise, I doubt the new Six Flags would close it unless they'd be able to relocate Superman. And while I wouldn't rule out Michigan's Adventure getting it, that's a bit of a stretch (and really the only park in the combined chain without a hyper where it would fit). So I'm skeptical it'll close for good. More likely it'll function as a useful dump for relos with the occasional new family coaster.
I've said for years that Roar needs the Iron Horse makeover. Also Batwing should finally be removed (it only runs one train and operations are horrendously slow). Edit: What hurts Six Flags America is that it has a bad reputation; plus it's 2 hours north of King's Dominion. And from SFA it's about 2.5 hours to Hershey Park and about 3.5 to Great Adventure.
Don't get me wrong because I definitely want them to get a brand new roller coaster. But before they do that, I'd rather have them fix Mind Eraser and Roar (either by having GCI retrack it with new Millennium Flyers or by turning it into an RMC hybrid) first.
I think Six Flags and Cedar Fair must have done some serious market research and concluded that the market is somewhat saturated between the DC area and Philadelphia. Or at least that the region has enough major parks that no single addition to either SFA or Dorney is going to dramatically shift their market share. Otherwise, I can't understand why those two parks have been neglected so badly. SFA by all rights should be a top 4 Six Flags park and same is true for Dorney. Both are in metro areas that are huge AND are tourist destinations such that the parks could become major destinations. I'm glad Dorney is getting their new B&M but the overall pattern is still not great. And SFA is arguably the worst Six Flags park and it just makes no sense.
Considering the 2024 additions for Cedar Fair and Six Flags I wouldn't expect more exciting additions for 2025. I hope 2025 is better and I'll be rooting for SFA locals to get a great ride. This is Six Flags after all so I'll temper my expectations
I’m sure that SF plans on giving The Boss from SFSTL and Roar in SFA an RMC treatment for 2025. Both of those parks are not my home SF parks. Since they will be spending a lot more money on new attractions for 2025, they can give my home park SFOG an RMC Raptor. They probably planned it a few years ago but Covid caused it to be delayed. They also can totally benefit from having one and place it near the parking lot where Pandemonium is located and remove the go carts allowing in their newest parking lot roller coaster since their Deja Vu was once standing there.
I love this prediction! I love a good old RMC, and id think a black and Red color scheme would look amazing too. Also, Brandon I'm going to Carowinds soon it will probably be next weekend, so if your able to id love to meet you! And one more thing, if anything changes i will reply to this message
If the SLC doesn’t track well which I’ve heard is the case, the new trains won’t matter. T3 and condor at Walibi Holland didn’t have the head banging restraints and they are the 2 worst coasters I’ve been on. By comparison, Thunderhawk at Michigan’s adventure actually tracks well with the “head banging” restraints. Comes down to tracking on those SLC. Not sure they are getting a new coaster in 2025 considering done six flags parks got nothing in 2024 and I would expect the capital to go to sone of these parks like Magic mountain, New England, and Mexico
I honestly don’t know why this park wasn’t let go by Six Flags because it should’ve been. SF focus should be on making SFGADV the destination super park for the mid-Atlantic/east coast region.
I am a season pass holder at SFA. I have been for years and it has been disappointing as hell. This year the new water coaster and steam whirler are the only things worth it. Their customer service has also sucked too. I had problems with them earlier this year. They need to get it together.
How bout a gravity group refurb to roar since they're working on a project at great escape...or gci titan track the whole thing with inversions...just in case rmc is to expensive go for the cheaper option...
Unpopular opinion: Six Flags America needs to axe the train upgrades for Mind Eraser. Removing and replacing it with a Vekoma SFC is about as good as they'll get for a new coaster in the short term. They closed multiple flats last season, so a popular family coaster that's less intense than Ragin' Cajun will balance out their lineup well. Also, even if Six Flags were willing to invest, an I-Box conversion of ROAR will likely be inferior to Wildcat's Revenge. SFA should go for Titan Track inversions and Infinity Flyer trains instead.
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I haven't watched the video yet, but here's my thoughts. Re-do Mind Eraser was my first step, that's happening. Then, give Batwing a major refurbishment and a maintenance overhaul with fresh paint. Deep purple track maybe? RMC roar similarly to WCR and you've got a stellar, mid to high tier lineup
I hate to bust the bubble but I don’t see Roar getting RMC but maybe new trains (I could see a new wooden coaster like Great Escape is getting in 2024)
I have been saying that they should build roar into an RMC for the past 5 years at least. And then they would see a lot more people coming to the park. Six Flags. America just needs more love and definitely some more roller coasters.
The rides in the park are pretty good when you take out mind eraser and roar. The water park is a real star here too even though that's not my cup of tea
If they make a better ride than Twisted Timbers (which is my favorite RMC) they would have a solid top 3 of RMC Roar, Superman, and Batwing (when it wants to run)
Six Flags isn't investing much of anything in this park. Wasn't Great Adventure "rumored" by TPP to get a Giga or some massive new investment for its anniversary? Only to get a Vekoma off the shelf model last minute and plopped down. No one goes to Six Flags America. I have a lot of friends in DC and they actively avoid the "ghetto" park.
Besides the ride improvement, I must believe the safety need to be priority, I just went yesterday and they didn't even check the bags, also women walking with "Underwear" all over the park shouldn't be permitted unless is at the huracán harbor area
the park uses a newer style security system called evolv which allows them to check only bags that have been detected or marked as suspicious by the system
Six Flags getting more and better rides in 2025 than Cedar Fair isn't that outlandish. Of the major parks in each chain, Great America and Magic Mountain could each be in line for a new coaster (Great America not having got one in 6 years by then, and Magic Mountain...is Magic Mountain), and really the only parks where a new big coaster is completely off the table are Great Adventure and Great Escape. Some are less likely than others, sure, but there's a non zero chance Fiesta Texas could get another thrill coaster in 2025, since they're one of the favorite parks lately. Cedar Fair, conversely, almost certainly won't put a new thrill coaster at Cedar Point or Kings Island, the most likely to get record breakers. That leaves a combination of Canada's Wonderland, Carowinds, and Knotts to maybe get one or two top rides. Plus the possibility of Valleyfair if the chain continues the small park additions. The wild card is Kings Dominion. They still need that Volcano replacement, and it's been since 2019 that that area of land has been without a coaster.
Yo man.......I love twisted cyclone lol. It's short but mighty. That was my attitude a year ago. And then fun spot gave six flags the middle finger and opened my favorite coaster ever
Not sure I get all the hate this park gets. Ive been here several times over the past 10 years and have never had an issue. Are the ops as good as they are in the Orlando parks? No, but Ive never had any poorer ops than what Ive seen at SFGAdv, Dorney, or Carowinds. If anything, Ive seen much friendlier ops at SFA than many other parks. As far as the clientele, again, no issues. Do you occasional see someone doing something stupid? Sure, but Ive seen line jumping much worse at many other parks. Is it a "best in class" park? No, but its not worthy of the hate it gets. The biggest problem the park has is that they havent invested in the park as much as they should have so much of the park looks dated and the park lacks "modern" attractions.
There is nothing wrong with using a two-bench PTC on a twister. A 3 bench, maybe. But the two bench rides better than the MF trains rain on Wildcat. I agree however, Roar needs to be RMC’d. it was great when it opened, but that was a long time ago!
I live outside of Baltimore and I would rather drive the 3 or 4 hours and go to KD or BGW or Hershey🤷♂️. I truely believe this park has potential but roaming packs of ignorant teenagers make me feel like I’m gonna need a lawyer or a bail bondsman everytime I’ve been there. I’m not a grumpy old man or anything but I’m not talking about just regular kids having fun and being obnoxious,I’m talking about the little punks that want to start fights and ruin families days at the park
Maybe I have been in a cave for a month or two, But why the name change on the channel? I actually lost a family member and stayed off social media. Really though why the name change?
Hey! How are you holding up? Sorry for your loss... I wanted to create a diff name because TPP was very niche and I do a lot more than just predictions :)
Six flags America has a location problem.....plus they are smack dab in the middle of parks they have a long way to go to compete with.....It would take a lot and frequent additions to get more people to want to continue to come to the park other than the local clientele. Hershey , Great Adventure, Dorney, Kings Dominion, Busch Gardens are all better maintained with superior ride selection. Wild One is not a decent ride the best rides are Superman and Jokers Jinx. and KD has Jokers Jinx and a hyper coaster is everywhere. Putting a new train on a SLC is not a huge improvement it just makes it somewhat tolerable. Zamperla Nebulaz is already at Hershey and has a super low capacity and short ride time. RMC ing Roar is unlikely to top wildcats revenge or Twisted Timbers. It would be a start but the rip out of batwing with a new say vekoma flyer something nobody in the country let alone in the area except superman at great adventure has would be a great start.
Joker's Jinx is way better than the garbage that is flight of fear at KD. Ki and KD should both remove flight of fear. That and backlot. Garbage coasters from the paramount era. Wild one is a great coaster and well maintained. It's the 2nd best in the park behind superman, then joker's Jinx then roar. However you forgot to mention Knoebels, which has free parking and is free to walk around, and has the best food of any park in the world according to amusement today golden ticket awards and has won that for many years in a row now. Dorney and sfa are about the same in that neither has received a newly built coaster for two decades or more despite being mid sized corporate chain owned parks near several large metro areas. That all changes next year with dorney getting a B&M dive coaster, and their water park is huge and blows sfa's out of the water, other than that they are similar parks. Kings Dominion is vastly overrated and probably my 2nd least favorite park in the mid Atlantic. Cedar fair has improved it slightly, but nowhere near what they've done for Canada's wonderland, kings island and Carowinds. It's slightly better than sfa but not by much. And bgw has gone in the tank since Anheuser Busch bailed and the sea world chain started having its problems. They removed big bad wolf, the best and most popular thrilling family coaster there. They replaced it with verbolten, which by all accounts is nowhere near as good. Across from that they put in a drop tower that had serious maintenance and operational problems and had to remove it after a decade. From what I've read tempesto isn't very good. And pantheon and invader do well in the rankings, especially pantheon, but invader is a small wooden coaster, nowhere near on par with el toro, phoenix, lightning racer, or even wild one at sfa. So that leaves Hershey Park and great adventure, which obviously blow sfa out of the water, but that's only two of the five parks you mentioned in the mid Atlantic as being way better. So improving sfa and making it more attractive to guests and competitive with the other parks in the mid Atlantic except the big two is not that hard and costly. Remove mind eraser and batwing because they are rough and horrible. Make roar smoother or turn it into a clone of joker at discovery kingdom, which would be very popular with guests, most of whom will have never been to discovery kingdom. Keep maintaining wild one as the excellent coaster that it is. Lastly and most importantly, vastly improve the water park by adding new slides and other amenities and theming now that you've removed 10 slides in the past year to better compete with the parks that include free and better water parks with their theme park admission ticket like dorney, KD, and Hershey Park. Do all of that, and the locals will continue to enjoy a season pass that gets them free parking and admission to an improved sfa, and one of the best parks in the world great adventure, just like I enjoyed from 1997-2021 when I moved out of MD and the mid Atlantic.
@anthonyfinch8118 sorry I didn't forget knoebels....it isn't going to draw your average person most don't even know it exists even though its one of my favorites..most people in my area don't even know six flags america exists....or would they even think of traveling around the beltway or through the 95 parking lot that is south of dc to get to it. Despite your low opinion of bgw which has also declined in my opinion but they hit it out of the park with pantheon....and of kings dominion which still has a great overall collection and two of the best coasters in the region if not country The majority of enthusiasts rate both of these parks in a different league then six flags america they both have had there decline i agree...I personally don't routinely travel to dorney but maybe once a year because it is the least reward for me plus i have to go past hershey and turn down knoebels and not want to drive to jersey. its just another park that that region north of dc and especially with the water park and dive coaster coming puts it way ahead of six flags america. Do i make the trip to sfa yes but only because my easy pass makes it easier coming from the east and mostly for superman and harley and I do agree about jynx but the rest of the rides are not going to draw me there. The point is roar rmc isn't going to woo anyone as hershey and KD already have better rides than roar west (joker) and a SLC with new trains especially one as bad as serial thriller isn't either. Just like a small rebranding of iron wolf to a floor less that kings dominion and dorney already have far superior than. SfA needs something unique and like I said frankly it's in a bad geo location that has it already at a disadvantage.
I never been to Six Flags America however the fact that it has forests surrounding the park makes me believe it has potential to offer some epic night rides if the right coasters are built in the right spots.
Superman would be a good night ride there if the park is open late enough
Superman is a great night ride
I know right? If only!
@@TP_Recommendations oh big time! Imagine if Roar gets the RMC treatment the park could build a new ground up wood coaster (GCI/gravity group) to go into the woods. Big opportunity!
@@quentenmajoor5861 If they add a new ground-up woodie, it'll probably be an **out-and-back GravityKraft** (they need a solid family thrill coaster that's not as intense as Ragin' Cajun') behind Mind Eraser (would fit in great with the steampunk theme they're going for), going up to Superman. There's no way SFA is getting anything huge - KD will be getting more attention when the merger's finalized.
People have been asking for RMC Roar since RMC started reimagining coasters. I hope it happens and they don’t just “new trains and titan track” it. That’s not enough. They honestly should have just replaced Mind Eraser with a P’sghetti bowl coaster and make that steam town area more family oriented, then RMC Roar in 2025, like you said. But that all costs more money than the bare minimum, which is what SFA usually operates on. You’re right, it would attract WAY more people in the area if the park got more love: better security, better operations, a couple new rides/coasters, refurbishing their existing rides, etc etc …But, i’m not holding my breath on that. In a perfect world, they RMC Roar, scrap Mind Eraser and Batwing-Replacing both with new gen Vekoma STC and launched Flying coasters, and give all older coasters new trains and retracking. That’d be like $50 Million though. Lol so, that’ll never happen… 😢
Almost right. Just leave Batwing alone 🦇
@@darkridedan1 nah, a maintenance overhaul, and new paint. How about deep purple track and black supports?
SFA is going to be even lower in the pecking order if/when the merger is finalized. And an RMC of Roar just wouldn't compete well with Wildcat's Revenge. Assuming Six Flags does keep the park, they'll do everything they can to differentiate it from KD. That means removing Flight of Fear from KD and ideally relocating it to WoF. And is SFA probably better off adding a couple Titan Track inversions and Infinity Flyer trains to Roar. Same goes for Boss at STL.
I would love this for my home park, unfortunately, I don’t see it happening. They’re closing whistlestop park forever and are relocating some of the kiddie rides to other sections of the park. They just removed zydeco zinger and it is rumored that fireball is being removed as well since it was removed from the fright fest map and closed almost all year.
The water coaster that was marketed for a summer 2023 opening didn’t start construction until late August and the park didn’t even acknowledge it.
The steamtown upgrades are cool, but it wont increase attendance. They took away holiday in the park and now they are the only park in the area that doesn’t have a winter event.
They let kings dominion and Hershey beat them to getting RMC hybrids.
Batwing’s shelf life will probably be ending in the next 5 years.
Most of the coasters ran 1 train all season and lines still didn’t exceed 20 mins.
I will say the park has stepped up its entertainment this year, but the park definitely gets boring after a couple hours.
I honestly think the park is better off selling and rebranding because the park’s reputation has gone downhill since the mid 2000s, especially with the better park options in the area.
Valid takes and I agree with a lot of them! Thank you for watching! 🎢
I feel like Roar def needs to be RMC'D. I honestly think they should have gotten rid of Mind eraser but that's just my opinion.
i agree they need something bad, and they really need to improve on keeping rides open. Last time i was there half the rides were closed or kept breaking down.
I agree with your point, Six Flags America has such low attendance and very little capital being put into the park. They’ve gotten rides that are relocated from another park or rides that can easily be relocated. I hope Six Flags can bring some much-needed love to this park in the next few years.
It’s just sad it really is
SFA is a dumping ground for SFGAm
Idk abt low attendance I went yesterday it was pretty crowded
I hope they do something with the park. I used to love going their as a kid when I live in Maryland. I still remember when it was Adventure World with the Cal Ripken commercials lol
2025 also better be Darien Lake's year, all they've been doing lately is removing rides without replacing them.
We can only hope maybe do something with the old grizzly run!area. Or the old water park area. Hey Brandon, do you think 2025 is Darien lake year?
@@danielmott8998 I wonder if they'll refurbish the Grizzly Run because they wasted no time dismantling the Giant Wheel and Heave Ho, and left Grizzly Run basically untouched, heck, even the rafts are still in the area.
I agree about the low attendance at Six Flag America. "If they build it then people will come". I live in Northern Delaware and consider Great Adventures my home park but I could also go to Six Flags America too and be there in like 1 and 1/2 hrs, plus or minus. Heck, I just went to baltimore to meet a friend for seafood brunch last week. I did go to Six flags America one time but I was in the parking lot and the energy felt so drab, there was no greeting from a coaster line, no one seemed excited. So, I drove back to Delaware and never went inside. Mind you, going inside would not have cost anything extra because I have an SFGadv season pass
Same area. It’s literally the same amount of time to get to SFA, SFGAd or Hershey. I have been to SFA cause I was down there for a race but half the rides were down. Heck I had tried to go another time since I was again in the area for a race, showed up, the app said the park was open and there was no announcement on Facebook, but it wasn’t open.
They have a staffing issue worse than other parks if you ask me. Why go down there for it when there’s better parks just as far? Heck even Dorney isn’t that much further
That’s just sad
Realistically, the best thing Six Flags could do is work with Intamin to add a fresh coat of paint to Superman, plus some airtime pops, tunnels, and headchoppers (Fortress-of-Solitude-themed) to the helix. That would do much more for the park than RMC'ing Roar - it'd be very tough to top both Wildcat's Revenge AND Twisted Timbers. So making their marquee coaster a true standout hyper is probably the best bang for their buck. Adding a couple Titan Track inversions and Infinity Flyer trains to ROAR probably makes the most sense there.
SFA just has one of the worst operations out of any amusement park in the US. Rides are always closed or breaking down. As well as crowds are just rude. Sad that this is my home park. At least Hersheypark isn't too far away.
Very good.
Gee, I wonder why?...
First, when speaking about SFA, giving the it's location alone, people already have a profiling mentality about it.
Second, they're willing to travel in additional 90 minutes to up to 3 hours, towards another theme park, trying to avoid visiting to Six Flags America.
Third, without the proper attendance, thier operating budget remains small, and working with that small sum of corporate money, thier operations, efficiency, training, and up keep maintaining are at a bare minimum, thanks to immature people's mindset.
Additionally, they're wondering why, or complaining about SFA, don't get any multi-million dollar new attraction for the following seasons.
Can’t blame the park for rude guests. They are in every park.
@@nancyfarkas3592 I'd agree with you on some of that statement, but SFA is just notoriously filled with rude GP. Not a park I would want to bring my kids to. Mainly because of the lack of filter most GP have there.
Wrong, their ops are really good. You must not have been in a while.
As someone living in Maryland area, we prefer Hershey Park, Kings Dominion, and Busch Gardens over Six Flags America
Or even dorney
I just came back from California and I thought Joker was an incredible mid-tier RMC. I would love to see a similar model here--if that's their goal with Roar
Yea that would be great!
A couple of years ago there were some markers and survey work done around roar. I'm not sure we ever fully got the answers we were looking for there
If it’s the same layout as roar was before they made it joker knowing six flags they’ll just clone joker
My home park is one that I used to actually tout as an underrated gem, but lately with the changes taking place, the park has been pretty poor. I sure hope they will do something to pull this park back together. It was never a major draw for the area, so I can understand why it doesn’t seem to get much attention, but that doesn’t mean it can’t.
What are you talking about? The park is a lot better than what it used to be over the last 10 years.
I'm on the opposite spectrum regarding SFA. They only get relocations or rides that can easily be relocated. Like you said the location is insane which makes the land this park sits on worth a fortune. I personally think SF has and is continuing to consider selling the park for the land. I think they've been in the "maybe maybe not" phase for years now. Honestly since Batwing there is nothing that indicates they were ever really committed to this park, despite all of the parks around them continuing to grow and improve.
Yes, the land is valuable, but I don't think they'll get rid of the park unless the DOJ forces them to in order to approve the merger. Herschend or Merlin might be interested in buying to take advantage of the DC market, but it requires substantial investment and rebranding. Otherwise, I doubt the new Six Flags would close it unless they'd be able to relocate Superman. And while I wouldn't rule out Michigan's Adventure getting it, that's a bit of a stretch (and really the only park in the combined chain without a hyper where it would fit). So I'm skeptical it'll close for good. More likely it'll function as a useful dump for relos with the occasional new family coaster.
I've said for years that Roar needs the Iron Horse makeover. Also Batwing should finally be removed (it only runs one train and operations are horrendously slow).
Edit: What hurts Six Flags America is that it has a bad reputation; plus it's 2 hours north of King's Dominion. And from SFA it's about 2.5 hours to Hershey Park and about 3.5 to Great Adventure.
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I've got a theory that the Whistlestop Park area will be turned into an extension of Gotham City
Don't get me wrong because I definitely want them to get a brand new roller coaster. But before they do that, I'd rather have them fix Mind Eraser and Roar (either by having GCI retrack it with new Millennium Flyers or by turning it into an RMC hybrid) first.
I can agree to that!
I think Six Flags and Cedar Fair must have done some serious market research and concluded that the market is somewhat saturated between the DC area and Philadelphia. Or at least that the region has enough major parks that no single addition to either SFA or Dorney is going to dramatically shift their market share. Otherwise, I can't understand why those two parks have been neglected so badly. SFA by all rights should be a top 4 Six Flags park and same is true for Dorney. Both are in metro areas that are huge AND are tourist destinations such that the parks could become major destinations.
I'm glad Dorney is getting their new B&M but the overall pattern is still not great. And SFA is arguably the worst Six Flags park and it just makes no sense.
Considering the 2024 additions for Cedar Fair and Six Flags I wouldn't expect more exciting additions for 2025. I hope 2025 is better and I'll be rooting for SFA locals to get a great ride. This is Six Flags after all so I'll temper my expectations
I’m sure that SF plans on giving The Boss from SFSTL and Roar in SFA an RMC treatment for 2025. Both of those parks are not my home SF parks. Since they will be spending a lot more money on new attractions for 2025, they can give my home park SFOG an RMC Raptor. They probably planned it a few years ago but Covid caused it to be delayed. They also can totally benefit from having one and place it near the parking lot where Pandemonium is located and remove the go carts allowing in their newest parking lot roller coaster since their Deja Vu was once standing there.
I love this prediction! I love a good old RMC, and id think a black and Red color scheme would look amazing too.
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I agree but I feel like roar has more of a blue and black vibe
Always enjoy your insights. After that, time for six flags over texas to get some love? We can only hope.
I would hope so
If the SLC doesn’t track well which I’ve heard is the case, the new trains won’t matter. T3 and condor at Walibi Holland didn’t have the head banging restraints and they are the 2 worst coasters I’ve been on. By comparison, Thunderhawk at Michigan’s adventure actually tracks well with the “head banging” restraints. Comes down to tracking on those SLC. Not sure they are getting a new coaster in 2025 considering done six flags parks got nothing in 2024 and I would expect the capital to go to sone of these parks like Magic mountain, New England, and Mexico
Condor and T3 were both prototype models which is why they tracked so much worse. Mind Eraser should be salvageable.
I honestly don’t know why this park wasn’t let go by Six Flags because it should’ve been. SF focus should be on making SFGADV the destination super park for the mid-Atlantic/east coast region.
I am a season pass holder at SFA. I have been for years and it has been disappointing as hell. This year the new water coaster and steam whirler are the only things worth it. Their customer service has also sucked too. I had problems with them earlier this year.
They need to get it together.
How bout a gravity group refurb to roar since they're working on a project at great escape...or gci titan track the whole thing with inversions...just in case rmc is to expensive go for the cheaper option...
Unpopular opinion: Six Flags America needs to axe the train upgrades for Mind Eraser. Removing and replacing it with a Vekoma SFC is about as good as they'll get for a new coaster in the short term. They closed multiple flats last season, so a popular family coaster that's less intense than Ragin' Cajun will balance out their lineup well. Also, even if Six Flags were willing to invest, an I-Box conversion of ROAR will likely be inferior to Wildcat's Revenge. SFA should go for Titan Track inversions and Infinity Flyer trains instead.
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I haven't watched the video yet, but here's my thoughts. Re-do Mind Eraser was my first step, that's happening. Then, give Batwing a major refurbishment and a maintenance overhaul with fresh paint. Deep purple track maybe? RMC roar similarly to WCR and you've got a stellar, mid to high tier lineup
It’s like we have the same thought process
@@TP_Recommendations Yeah, seriously 😅. What kind of coaster do you think the parks next ground up coaster would be?
I hate to bust the bubble but I don’t see Roar getting RMC but maybe new trains (I could see a new wooden coaster like Great Escape is getting in 2024)
I have been saying that they should build roar into an RMC for the past 5 years at least. And then they would see a lot more people coming to the park. Six Flags. America just needs more love and definitely some more roller coasters.
The rides in the park are pretty good when you take out mind eraser and roar. The water park is a real star here too even though that's not my cup of tea
If they make a better ride than Twisted Timbers (which is my favorite RMC) they would have a solid top 3 of RMC Roar, Superman, and Batwing (when it wants to run)
Six Flags isn't investing much of anything in this park. Wasn't Great Adventure "rumored" by TPP to get a Giga or some massive new investment for its anniversary? Only to get a Vekoma off the shelf model last minute and plopped down. No one goes to Six Flags America. I have a lot of friends in DC and they actively avoid the "ghetto" park.
That was what I was hearing as well as a ton of other people :) that was the plan. 2025 it could still happen. 🎢
Besides the ride improvement, I must believe the safety need to be priority, I just went yesterday and they didn't even check the bags, also women walking with "Underwear" all over the park shouldn't be permitted unless is at the huracán harbor area
the park uses a newer style security system called evolv which allows them to check only bags that have been detected or marked as suspicious by the system
Six Flags getting more and better rides in 2025 than Cedar Fair isn't that outlandish. Of the major parks in each chain, Great America and Magic Mountain could each be in line for a new coaster (Great America not having got one in 6 years by then, and Magic Mountain...is Magic Mountain), and really the only parks where a new big coaster is completely off the table are Great Adventure and Great Escape. Some are less likely than others, sure, but there's a non zero chance Fiesta Texas could get another thrill coaster in 2025, since they're one of the favorite parks lately. Cedar Fair, conversely, almost certainly won't put a new thrill coaster at Cedar Point or Kings Island, the most likely to get record breakers. That leaves a combination of Canada's Wonderland, Carowinds, and Knotts to maybe get one or two top rides. Plus the possibility of Valleyfair if the chain continues the small park additions. The wild card is Kings Dominion. They still need that Volcano replacement, and it's been since 2019 that that area of land has been without a coaster.
RMC roar since wildcat closed it's the oldest GCI
Yo man.......I love twisted cyclone lol. It's short but mighty. That was my attitude a year ago. And then fun spot gave six flags the middle finger and opened my favorite coaster ever
I believe SFOG will hopefully in the future add a cloned version of an RMC Raptor from SFMM in 2025 or in 2027 cuz of AireForce One
Ha I love this! You are 100% right... lol
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@2:54 just rode that a few days ago and it was good!
Superman is my favorite ride
If Roar is RMC'D, I would actually go back to that park.
Six Flags Darien Lake vs Six Flags America!
Tough decision, but I’d go SFA
I can’t wait I need ANYTHING to cover at my Hp
Soon hopefully!!!
Not sure I get all the hate this park gets. Ive been here several times over the past 10 years and have never had an issue. Are the ops as good as they are in the Orlando parks? No, but Ive never had any poorer ops than what Ive seen at SFGAdv, Dorney, or Carowinds. If anything, Ive seen much friendlier ops at SFA than many other parks. As far as the clientele, again, no issues. Do you occasional see someone doing something stupid? Sure, but Ive seen line jumping much worse at many other parks. Is it a "best in class" park? No, but its not worthy of the hate it gets. The biggest problem the park has is that they havent invested in the park as much as they should have so much of the park looks dated and the park lacks "modern" attractions.
Yeah I need to visit the park again soon! Not a bad park by all means. Thank you for watching! 🎢
Bring back holiday in the park
If this were confirmed, this would make all 3 of my homeparks have an RMC. 4 if you count Hersheypark.
You would be very lucky!!
Six Flags St.louis is getting a new roller coaster coming in 2025
I hope you’re right!!!
There is nothing wrong with using a two-bench PTC on a twister. A 3 bench, maybe. But the two bench rides better than the MF trains rain on Wildcat. I agree however, Roar needs to be RMC’d. it was great when it opened, but that was a long time ago!
Lets hope for a new coaster at Waldameer.
I’d love that! Such a great park!
LOVE SFA!!! So underutilized, if only they can get some much needed love
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their coaster lineup is better than six flags over Texas.... my park in Texas is pitifully behind on the coaster wars... facts
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I live outside of Baltimore and I would rather drive the 3 or 4 hours and go to KD or BGW or Hershey🤷♂️. I truely believe this park has potential but roaming packs of ignorant teenagers make me feel like I’m gonna need a lawyer or a bail bondsman everytime I’ve been there. I’m not a grumpy old man or anything but I’m not talking about just regular kids having fun and being obnoxious,I’m talking about the little punks that want to start fights and ruin families days at the park
Maybe I have been in a cave for a month or two, But why the name change on the channel? I actually lost a family member and stayed off social media. Really though why the name change?
Hey! How are you holding up? Sorry for your loss... I wanted to create a diff name because TPP was very niche and I do a lot more than just predictions :)
Why did you change the name of your channel? Hmmm....
Because I don't always do prediction videos and wanted a name that wasn't so niche :)
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Yeah I believe it when I see it. Lol This park is absolutely worthless .
Six flags America has a location problem.....plus they are smack dab in the middle of parks they have a long way to go to compete with.....It would take a lot and frequent additions to get more people to want to continue to come to the park other than the local clientele. Hershey , Great Adventure, Dorney, Kings Dominion, Busch Gardens are all better maintained with superior ride selection. Wild One is not a decent ride the best rides are Superman and Jokers Jinx. and KD has Jokers Jinx and a hyper coaster is everywhere. Putting a new train on a SLC is not a huge improvement it just makes it somewhat tolerable. Zamperla Nebulaz is already at Hershey and has a super low capacity and short ride time. RMC ing Roar is unlikely to top wildcats revenge or Twisted Timbers. It would be a start but the rip out of batwing with a new say vekoma flyer something nobody in the country let alone in the area except superman at great adventure has would be a great start.
Joker's Jinx is way better than the garbage that is flight of fear at KD. Ki and KD should both remove flight of fear. That and backlot. Garbage coasters from the paramount era. Wild one is a great coaster and well maintained. It's the 2nd best in the park behind superman, then joker's Jinx then roar. However you forgot to mention Knoebels, which has free parking and is free to walk around, and has the best food of any park in the world according to amusement today golden ticket awards and has won that for many years in a row now. Dorney and sfa are about the same in that neither has received a newly built coaster for two decades or more despite being mid sized corporate chain owned parks near several large metro areas. That all changes next year with dorney getting a B&M dive coaster, and their water park is huge and blows sfa's out of the water, other than that they are similar parks. Kings Dominion is vastly overrated and probably my 2nd least favorite park in the mid Atlantic. Cedar fair has improved it slightly, but nowhere near what they've done for Canada's wonderland, kings island and Carowinds. It's slightly better than sfa but not by much. And bgw has gone in the tank since Anheuser Busch bailed and the sea world chain started having its problems. They removed big bad wolf, the best and most popular thrilling family coaster there. They replaced it with verbolten, which by all accounts is nowhere near as good. Across from that they put in a drop tower that had serious maintenance and operational problems and had to remove it after a decade. From what I've read tempesto isn't very good. And pantheon and invader do well in the rankings, especially pantheon, but invader is a small wooden coaster, nowhere near on par with el toro, phoenix, lightning racer, or even wild one at sfa. So that leaves Hershey Park and great adventure, which obviously blow sfa out of the water, but that's only two of the five parks you mentioned in the mid Atlantic as being way better. So improving sfa and making it more attractive to guests and competitive with the other parks in the mid Atlantic except the big two is not that hard and costly. Remove mind eraser and batwing because they are rough and horrible. Make roar smoother or turn it into a clone of joker at discovery kingdom, which would be very popular with guests, most of whom will have never been to discovery kingdom. Keep maintaining wild one as the excellent coaster that it is. Lastly and most importantly, vastly improve the water park by adding new slides and other amenities and theming now that you've removed 10 slides in the past year to better compete with the parks that include free and better water parks with their theme park admission ticket like dorney, KD, and Hershey Park. Do all of that, and the locals will continue to enjoy a season pass that gets them free parking and admission to an improved sfa, and one of the best parks in the world great adventure, just like I enjoyed from 1997-2021 when I moved out of MD and the mid Atlantic.
@anthonyfinch8118 sorry I didn't forget knoebels....it isn't going to draw your average person most don't even know it exists even though its one of my favorites..most people in my area don't even know six flags america exists....or would they even think of traveling around the beltway or through the 95 parking lot that is south of dc to get to it. Despite your low opinion of bgw which has also declined in my opinion but they hit it out of the park with pantheon....and of kings dominion which still has a great overall collection and two of the best coasters in the region if not country The majority of enthusiasts rate both of these parks in a different league then six flags america they both have had there decline i agree...I personally don't routinely travel to dorney but maybe once a year because it is the least reward for me plus i have to go past hershey and turn down knoebels and not want to drive to jersey. its just another park that that region north of dc and especially with the water park and dive coaster coming puts it way ahead of six flags america. Do i make the trip to sfa yes but only because my easy pass makes it easier coming from the east and mostly for superman and harley and I do agree about jynx but the rest of the rides are not going to draw me there. The point is roar rmc isn't going to woo anyone as hershey and KD already have better rides than roar west (joker) and a SLC with new trains especially one as bad as serial thriller isn't either. Just like a small rebranding of iron wolf to a floor less that kings dominion and dorney already have far superior than. SfA needs something unique and like I said frankly it's in a bad geo location that has it already at a disadvantage.
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