I found Transparent Red Oxide (PR101) worked a lot better for properly neutralising ultramarine blue. But the mixes you created with PO48 is so pretty too :D Both foxes are so cute. well done for getting back up and giving it another go, that's not easy to do. Congrats
Thanks Oto! Indeed, I don't look to QBO for neutralizing. I look to it for the gorgeous, vibrant mixes! I just also keep a burnt sienna on my palette for those greys :D
Great Spotlight as usual Denise! Such a useful color for me in M. Graham. Its so similar (in hue) to my favorite brown mixer, trans. red iron oxide. Isn't the texture just granulation? Texture does seem to change for me depending on paper. I get similar texture patterns with some other colors. Not great, I realize, if you're expecting clean, non-granulating color. I think your first fox was better than you give it credit, but I know that in our minds eye we can see things turning out differently sometimes. Recognizing and admitting fails to ourself, is so important to pushing ourselves forward. Kudos to making the decision to repaint and share that with us. Can you share your Foxicorn reference with us? I doubt any of us has actually gotten a glimpse of one! 😂
Thanks Steve! It is indeed very close to the red iron oxide, especially from MGraham, and I'd be curious to put them side by side in some mixing studies in the future! I suppose that the texture is a type of granulation, but MGraham doesn't list it as granulating. Interestingly enough, upon double checking DSs info, they do rate it as slightly granulating 😂 so there's that! Thanks for the kind words about the foxes. It was really just how badly I overworked the chest that I was so unhappy with, but definitely a learning experience so I can't be too bummed :) The reference was from pixabay, here's a link! pixabay.com/en/fox-animal-nature-forest-tatry-3053706/
I am learning how to use colors for SW desert landscapes, and the colors you use are virtually identical to the desert hues. Every one of these color spotlights is a MasterClass for me! Thanks for your generosity.
Quin Burnt Orange was also one of my two first Daniel Smith paints, along with Green Apatite Genuine (which I utterly adore and looove using for my landscape painting). Glad to see that this beautiful color gets some love, it's such a great orange tone and I like using it to mix skintones. Thanks for the wonderful video :)
The mixes are so pretty!!! And I love both foxes, though I have to say the second one has a clearer silhouette :) And congrats on being an ambassador for WWM!! Yay! :D
Thanks Eve! I do love the top of the baby fox's head from the eyes up, and the adult has a regalness about her :) I'm really excited for WWM and hope others are too!
Good on ya for showing a painting you didn't like! It's important to see that even the Pros struggle, and even more important to remember that the Pros only share the "good" pieces, that you don't see the piles of failures it took to get to the "good" one! Also, I love Quin Rust. I've only ever used MGraham's version and never noticed that it had that slight granulation to it.
I love Quin burnt orange! Accidentally sort of found out about it because of that Daniel smith secondaries set and Quin burnt orange and the undersea green ESPECIALLY ended up surprising and delighting me. I know I also liked the carbazole violet they came with as well, but I’d already tried it before so it wasn’t a super big surprise. This color, for me, is the nearly perfect shade of deep and warm orange that mimics my hunky’s hair color, so it’s certainly gotten use in my household. =^.^= (as we’ve aged his hair has gotten just a little bit darker though so it’s mostly just the base for a mix and the highlights.)
I really like this color for mixing, especially for natural looking green colors. I missed out on stocking up on PO49, so I am stocking up on this because it is part of my main single pigment mixing palette.
I found it weird how you mentioned the eyes in the adult to be less impactful. They stood out to me immediately in the beginning but as you started working on them I saw what you meant. Still such a beautiful colour though, especiall, the olives it mixed up. So lovely! Thank u for sharing your knowledge! 😊
Thanks! Very nice mixes with the PO48. I like that it made nice mixes with PV19, I have played with that colour a bit recently, and like some combinations (PG7 and PB29). Now I have one more for it.
I don’t know why but I prefer the w&n burnt sienna....I know I know shame on me but like you I prefer the paint I first used and experienced which was w&n which for me neutralizes with ultramarine blue perfectly!
Just want to say that i think both of the foxes are pretty great. There is a bit of overworking on the baby but it's so cute I think most people can look past that. Wonderfully informative video!
I'm glad that I should share it with you! I was so dumbfounded to see that they only seem to be carried in American companies - I've never heard of that before! Glad you like the baby :)
WindspielArt strange to say but you can buy nearly every brands in german art stores. Look at Gerstaecker or Peter's art shop or .... Its simply not popular in Germany to talk about colors and pigments.
I don't know about the other versions of PB60 since I haven't mixed them with PO48 before, and I know it's your least favorite version, but DS Indanthrone Blue does neutralize very well with Quin Burnt Orange. I use the combo for warm blacks, and I used it in a few art projects to get a wide range of grays and browns. These two pigments are some of my most used colors for their incredible versatility in a variety of subjects.
I realy dont understand what should be wrong with the Baby Fox :D I think he is soooooo adorable😍 Really Nice Video, thanks for doing all this work to bring us some color spotlights ❤️
The Fox is adorable! I hope to participate this year I really need to get back into watercolor, I’ve been using marker for too long! Looking forward to it!
I like both paintings. The baby fox has the cute factor and great eyes. I think I see what you mean about over working the chest area but I think it ended up looking rather nice.
I need to try this out before it runs out! Although I don't use orange that much (probably at all) PO48 seems to be an interesting pigment to try:) Both paintings were beautiful and that outro song always makes me happy! Really liked this episode:)!
Don’t know if someone already noted this, but instead of PO48, Guerra Paint actually sells PO47, which is labeled as Quinacridone Orange, and PO49, the fabled Quinacridone Gold!
I did see that! I'm not familiar with what mulled PO47 looked like, though their PO49 is quite different from the version we all swoon over. Pretty, but different!
Yes! My graham has that texture to! Due to the fact that I only have one po48, I still use it, even a lot in skintones, and it doesn’t really bother me in light washes c: And yes! I did some research because m graham and d.s. Are pretty rare here (don’t even start with da Vinci), and it’s really only available in us colors oO
I feel silly as I followed the link that Steve mentioned about viewing a "foxicorn" in photo form! Just wanted to drop a quick comment. Have a lovely Day!
I adore your baby foxicorn, especially his tufty chest. Pups do have uncontrollably fluffy fur and I would expect nothing less than that from a kit. I would think that, secretly, the people asking for a rework just wanted to see more lovely unicorn creatures from you. So thank you for the bonus, but I thought the kit was top notch.
Awesome informative video as always. Love your channel. I can't believe I've been on the fence about this color. I want it then end up putting it in save for later. I don't know why. It would be very useful for me because I love to paint animals and is a single pigment. What is my problem!?! So, I am going to go buy this color right now...I hope. lol
Ambassador Soden! Love this color, your spotlighting and those foxy foxes! If you had painted 3 I would have called them a "leash"! (I think I like that better than skulk) is one terminology more correct than the other? 😄 I'm sure glad you're my go-to expert!
Thank you for this video, I love your demonstrations. I've been trying to decide whether or not to get this colour and which one to buy. I've been trying not to buy new paints until Jackson's gets M. Graham in stock which I know is coming at some point but as I'm not a huge fan of granulation I'll get the Daniel Smith. So thank you, this is one of the paints I was going to try from M. Graham and I think I would have been a little disappointed. I was wondering if you have videos for the sea turtle and red panda? Thanks again. ❤️
Hey Denisse, thanks for all your useful videos! 👌 There is a thing that I'd like to ask you, since the colors in the video are SO Different from the (i suppose) scanned version you show aways at the end. Which one is truer to reality? Video footage or still images? Thank you!
How much from those videos did you donate to the kids thingy? If it was more than a certain percentage I'll get everyone I know to play them so the kids can get the supplies they need
When you are brushing it out on this demo, it looks granulating. Daniel Smith lists this pigment as granulating. My cannot live without pigment is Winser & Newton, PR101, the one that is mistakenly called Burnt Sienna. It's not Burnt Sienna anymore than any PY42 is a Yellow Ochre. But I adore the W&N brand of this transparent, non granulating PR101 pigment no matter what they call it. My let peeve is that a true Yellow Ochre was always PY43 many years ago. I mean MANY years ago. I'm 65. Raw Sienna was always the sunnier p one being PY42. True yellow ochre was deeper Ochre with an almost a greenish cast to it, like a field new of freshly cut hay. At least Winser & Newton is correct about their Yellow Ochre being real PY43 Yellow Ochre and Raw sienna being PY42 Raw Sienna.
I've been trying to find the neutralizer to my PO48 for three days now :D I wanted to put it in my palette instead of Transparent Pyrrol Orange, but nothing works... Thanks for mentioning it, thought it was my mixing skill that was the issue. Glad to know it's the color characteristic. I do plan on putting Perylene Violet on my palette and in neutralizes perfectly with Perylene Green so that will be the grey I'll use. Would you consider Daniel Smith's PO48 as a possible replacement for Burnt Sienna (not counting the neutralization issue)?
Glad I'm not alone either Ana! Haha. I was like "why don't you have a mixing compliment?!" PO48 is a replacement for the oranger burnt siennas like Winsor & Newtons, but definitely a different color from Daniel Smith's earthy one. I have both on my main palette.
Thank you for the suggestion. My DS PO48 and DS Cerulean Blue Chromium create a range of greenish browns and brownish greens unfortunately :( Perhaps M.Graham processes the pigment differently. Really want to try their Quinacridone set now ^_^
As Denise said its probably because MG leans more red brown. I love a challenge so I'm sitting here playing with the DS dot card and DS Cobalt Blue seems to produce an almost perfect neutral with their PO48. 😃
Hmm, I've never heard this and don't believe this is the case. Brighteners usually make a paint more chalky and opaque, not give them more texture (as far as I'm aware).
PO48 is definitely on Kremer pigment as a pigment, they call it Cinquasia® Gold, red-gold
Oo thank you for sharing Kath! No wonder I didn't find it with a name like that.
No problem, it must be a trade name or something - I stumbled across it quite by accident when trying to identify pigments in their watercolours.
Hey! they ship to Brazil?
I found Transparent Red Oxide (PR101) worked a lot better for properly neutralising ultramarine blue. But the mixes you created with PO48 is so pretty too :D Both foxes are so cute. well done for getting back up and giving it another go, that's not easy to do. Congrats
Thanks Oto! Indeed, I don't look to QBO for neutralizing. I look to it for the gorgeous, vibrant mixes! I just also keep a burnt sienna on my palette for those greys :D
Great Spotlight as usual Denise! Such a useful color for me in M. Graham. Its so similar (in hue) to my favorite brown mixer, trans. red iron oxide. Isn't the texture just granulation? Texture does seem to change for me depending on paper. I get similar texture patterns with some other colors. Not great, I realize, if you're expecting clean, non-granulating color. I think your first fox was better than you give it credit, but I know that in our minds eye we can see things turning out differently sometimes. Recognizing and admitting fails to ourself, is so important to pushing ourselves forward. Kudos to making the decision to repaint and share that with us. Can you share your Foxicorn reference with us? I doubt any of us has actually gotten a glimpse of one! 😂
Thanks Steve! It is indeed very close to the red iron oxide, especially from MGraham, and I'd be curious to put them side by side in some mixing studies in the future! I suppose that the texture is a type of granulation, but MGraham doesn't list it as granulating. Interestingly enough, upon double checking DSs info, they do rate it as slightly granulating 😂 so there's that!
Thanks for the kind words about the foxes. It was really just how badly I overworked the chest that I was so unhappy with, but definitely a learning experience so I can't be too bummed :) The reference was from pixabay, here's a link! pixabay.com/en/fox-animal-nature-forest-tatry-3053706/
LOL! kidding of course on the reference. I wanted to see an actual Foxicorn! 😜 The horn only appears in moonlight or something I'm guessing!
I am learning how to use colors for SW desert landscapes, and the colors you use are virtually identical to the desert hues. Every one of these color spotlights is a MasterClass for me! Thanks for your generosity.
I love how you give each color a chance to shine even if they might not be or might be a favorite!
Quin Burnt Orange was also one of my two first Daniel Smith paints, along with Green Apatite Genuine (which I utterly adore and looove using for my landscape painting). Glad to see that this beautiful color gets some love, it's such a great orange tone and I like using it to mix skintones. Thanks for the wonderful video :)
The mixes are so pretty!!! And I love both foxes, though I have to say the second one has a clearer silhouette :)
And congrats on being an ambassador for WWM!! Yay! :D
Thanks Eve! I do love the top of the baby fox's head from the eyes up, and the adult has a regalness about her :) I'm really excited for WWM and hope others are too!
Good on ya for showing a painting you didn't like! It's important to see that even the Pros struggle, and even more important to remember that the Pros only share the "good" pieces, that you don't see the piles of failures it took to get to the "good" one! Also, I love Quin Rust. I've only ever used MGraham's version and never noticed that it had that slight granulation to it.
I love Quin burnt orange! Accidentally sort of found out about it because of that Daniel smith secondaries set and Quin burnt orange and the undersea green ESPECIALLY ended up surprising and delighting me. I know I also liked the carbazole violet they came with as well, but I’d already tried it before so it wasn’t a super big surprise.
This color, for me, is the nearly perfect shade of deep and warm orange that mimics my hunky’s hair color, so it’s certainly gotten use in my household. =^.^= (as we’ve aged his hair has gotten just a little bit darker though so it’s mostly just the base for a mix and the highlights.)
Can I just say this is a gorgeous little mini palette! I love the rich moody, autumnal colors. Love your color spotlight series!
I really like this color for mixing, especially for natural looking green colors. I missed out on stocking up on PO49, so I am stocking up on this because it is part of my main single pigment mixing palette.
Hello, mostly a lurker here. I love your color spot light series. I am super excited for the burnt umber spot light! Yay!
If my fails looked as good as yours, I'd be one happy girl. You knocked it out of the park with that second one.
Wait until you see my next Skillshare subject! :D I repainted a fox and totally loved it this time around. Thank you for the kind words.
Omg no ways. I love baby foxicorn so so much!!!
Thank you Pippa!
I LOVE both fox paintings! They’re so adorable! Love this series too!
Love both! I’m especially drawn to their eyes and natural expression, your amazing!
I found it weird how you mentioned the eyes in the adult to be less impactful. They stood out to me immediately in the beginning but as you started working on them I saw what you meant. Still such a beautiful colour though, especiall, the olives it mixed up. So lovely! Thank u for sharing your knowledge! 😊
I knew you'd like the olives! Thanks so much Luce :)
Oh, yay. Someone was talking about this color in a workshop, and I was hoping you'd cover it. I didn't see that it was next. What a pleasant surprise!
Yay! :) I'm glad that it was timely.
The two paintings make an amazing diptych !
Thank you Marva! :)
I love them both! Art is in the eye of the beholder, so there will always be some who don't like it.
Aw thanks Judi!
congrats on becoming an ambassador! That's so exciting!
Thank you Jessica! I'm really excited about it!
Thanks! Very nice mixes with the PO48. I like that it made nice mixes with PV19, I have played with that colour a bit recently, and like some combinations (PG7 and PB29). Now I have one more for it.
The foxicorns are adorable.
i love this channel.
Aw thanks Otter!
I was just about to mention that this color would be gold for painting foxes and then you just started painting one 😁 I like them both!
I don’t know why but I prefer the w&n burnt sienna....I know I know shame on me but like you I prefer the paint I first used and experienced which was w&n which for me neutralizes with ultramarine blue perfectly!
Lovely piece Doll u did a great job with the color and I am loving ur color spotlights
Just want to say that i think both of the foxes are pretty great. There is a bit of overworking on the baby but it's so cute I think most people can look past that. Wonderfully informative video!
Love both paintings but the baby fox a little bit more
I'm glad that I should share it with you! I was so dumbfounded to see that they only seem to be carried in American companies - I've never heard of that before! Glad you like the baby :)
WindspielArt strange to say but you can buy nearly every brands in german art stores. Look at Gerstaecker or Peter's art shop or ....
Its simply not popular in Germany to talk about colors and pigments.
I don't know about the other versions of PB60 since I haven't mixed them with PO48 before, and I know it's your least favorite version, but DS Indanthrone Blue does neutralize very well with Quin Burnt Orange. I use the combo for warm blacks, and I used it in a few art projects to get a wide range of grays and browns. These two pigments are some of my most used colors for their incredible versatility in a variety of subjects.
I realy dont understand what should be wrong with the Baby Fox :D I think he is soooooo adorable😍 Really Nice Video, thanks for doing all this work to bring us some color spotlights ❤️
Aw thank you Elisa! I really appreciate the kind words :)
I liked both of the foxes! I am going to try unofficially to do 31 watercolors in July!
The second painting is beautiful
Aw thanks so much!
Oh sweet I just got this color from Daniel Smith. I had no idea July was like Inktober for watercolor how exciting.
Ooo I'm so glad that I could share that with you!
The Fox is adorable! I hope to participate this year I really need to get back into watercolor, I’ve been using marker for too long! Looking forward to it!
Great job with this one, I knew you would press on. It turned out so well :) I love this color/pigment, it's definitely on my palette!
Thank you Mikki!
Turner makes a Quin Burnt Orange, and is sold through Jerry's Artarama, but it's a blend of PR209, PY150, PBr25
I like both paintings. The baby fox has the cute factor and great eyes. I think I see what you mean about over working the chest area but I think it ended up looking rather nice.
Thanks Katherine!
Yay a new video!
I like both your unifoxes! :)
I need to try this out before it runs out! Although I don't use orange that much (probably at all) PO48 seems to be an interesting pigment to try:) Both paintings were beautiful and that outro song always makes me happy! Really liked this episode:)!
Another viewer said the Kremer does carry it, it's just under a different name. Phew!
In Liquid Color Thankfully! Can sleep in peace now:)
Don’t know if someone already noted this, but instead of PO48, Guerra Paint actually sells PO47, which is labeled as Quinacridone Orange, and PO49, the fabled Quinacridone Gold!
I did see that! I'm not familiar with what mulled PO47 looked like, though their PO49 is quite different from the version we all swoon over. Pretty, but different!
Royal talents has an orange made from po48 in the rembrant line
Yes! My graham has that texture to! Due to the fact that I only have one po48, I still use it, even a lot in skintones, and it doesn’t really bother me in light washes c:
And yes! I did some research because m graham and d.s. Are pretty rare here (don’t even start with da Vinci), and it’s really only available in us colors oO
Thanks for sharing Annika! Such a bizarre pattern to only be produced here! I wonder why that is.
I feel silly as I followed the link that Steve mentioned about viewing a "foxicorn" in photo form! Just wanted to drop a quick comment. Have a lovely Day!
I adore your baby foxicorn, especially his tufty chest. Pups do have uncontrollably fluffy fur and I would expect nothing less than that from a kit. I would think that, secretly, the people asking for a rework just wanted to see more lovely unicorn creatures from you. So thank you for the bonus, but I thought the kit was top notch.
This was foreshadowing, PO48 is now discontinued :( it’s the only orange colour I owned.
Awesome informative video as always. Love your channel. I can't believe I've been on the fence about this color. I want it then end up putting it in save for later. I don't know why. It would be very useful for me because I love to paint animals and is a single pigment. What is my problem!?! So, I am going to go buy this color right now...I hope. lol
Sorry, Denise, I like them both very much.
All I can say here... 5:40 is a happy day~
Polish brand roman szmal, quinn burnt sienna. They are new, now widely available via jacksons.
Ambassador Soden! Love this color, your spotlighting and those foxy foxes! If you had painted 3 I would have called them a "leash"! (I think I like that better than skulk) is one terminology more correct than the other? 😄 I'm sure glad you're my go-to expert!
I'm glad I got to do an orange for you!
I wish I could 'fail' as well as you do! :)
i love to use this color for tigers!
Thank you for this video, I love your demonstrations. I've been trying to decide whether or not to get this colour and which one to buy. I've been trying not to buy new paints until Jackson's gets M. Graham in stock which I know is coming at some point but as I'm not a huge fan of granulation I'll get the Daniel Smith. So thank you, this is one of the paints I was going to try from M. Graham and I think I would have been a little disappointed. I was wondering if you have videos for the sea turtle and red panda? Thanks again. ❤️
I'm so glad it was helpful Emma! The turtle and red panda came before my channel so unfortunately I don't have videos of them! :(
Hey Denisse, thanks for all your useful videos! 👌 There is a thing that I'd like to ask you, since the colors in the video are SO Different from the (i suppose) scanned version you show aways at the end. Which one is truer to reality? Video footage or still images? Thank you!
I try to edit the video to the best of my ability, but the scan is more accurate.
How much from those videos did you donate to the kids thingy? If it was more than a certain percentage I'll get everyone I know to play them so the kids can get the supplies they need
When you are brushing it out on this demo, it looks granulating. Daniel Smith lists this pigment as granulating. My cannot live without pigment is Winser & Newton, PR101, the one that is mistakenly called Burnt Sienna. It's not Burnt Sienna anymore than any PY42 is a Yellow Ochre. But I adore the W&N brand of this transparent, non granulating PR101 pigment no matter what they call it. My let peeve is that a true Yellow Ochre was always PY43 many years ago. I mean MANY years ago. I'm 65. Raw Sienna was always the sunnier p one being PY42. True yellow ochre was deeper Ochre with an almost a greenish cast to it, like a field new of freshly cut hay. At least Winser & Newton is correct about their Yellow Ochre being real PY43 Yellow Ochre and Raw sienna being PY42 Raw Sienna.
Holbein uses PO48 in their Quinacridone Gold mix.
Yep, lots of company use it for their Quin Gold, but I couldn't find the single pigment in their brand.
Next, please: Burnt Umber!
I've been trying to find the neutralizer to my PO48 for three days now :D I wanted to put it in my palette instead of Transparent Pyrrol Orange, but nothing works... Thanks for mentioning it, thought it was my mixing skill that was the issue. Glad to know it's the color characteristic. I do plan on putting Perylene Violet on my palette and in neutralizes perfectly with Perylene Green so that will be the grey I'll use. Would you consider Daniel Smith's PO48 as a possible replacement for Burnt Sienna (not counting the neutralization issue)?
Glad I'm not alone either Ana! Haha. I was like "why don't you have a mixing compliment?!" PO48 is a replacement for the oranger burnt siennas like Winsor & Newtons, but definitely a different color from Daniel Smith's earthy one. I have both on my main palette.
Cerulean Blue works for me to neutralize the M. Graham PO 48.
I could see that, Steve! It's more brown than the others, so I think it would have better odds at evening out :)
Thank you for the suggestion. My DS PO48 and DS Cerulean Blue Chromium create a range of greenish browns and brownish greens unfortunately :( Perhaps M.Graham processes the pigment differently. Really want to try their Quinacridone set now ^_^
As Denise said its probably because MG leans more red brown. I love a challenge so I'm sitting here playing with the DS dot card and DS Cobalt Blue seems to produce an almost perfect neutral with their PO48. 😃
have you tried it with cobalt teal or something similar?
I’ve heard rumors about m graham using brighteners in their paints. Do you think that’s where that texture could be coming from?
Hmm, I've never heard this and don't believe this is the case. Brighteners usually make a paint more chalky and opaque, not give them more texture (as far as I'm aware).
PO48 is gorgeous but i still prefer PR101...
This fox looks so wise... I want them to teach me their arcane knowledge so I can help them save their kind from the evils of the world
i think PO48 would neutralize better with a more Purple-ish blue, since it is more on the Yellow side than the red side...
The anthraquinone is a very warm blue and the closest I have without moving to a purple :)
It is a unifox
a unifox??:P
I like foxicorn :)