Is George Karl's criticism of Carmelo Anthony fair? | UNDISPUTED
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- Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe debate George Karl's comments about his former player Carmelo Anthony. Did Karl go too far?
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Is George Karl's criticism of Carmelo Anthony fair? | UNDISPUTED
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George Karl has had a problem with every star he's ever coached. When EVERYBODY has a problem with you, maybe it's you
Exactly
thats true, but what he said about Melo does hold merit.
I remember when Doug Kristi was drafted, George had issues with Doug because he wouldn't sign a BS contract. Doug went like 15th in first round,Sonics offered him low second round money. he held out, George bad mouth him after that.
+nyc Jones It does to a point.Not a big fan of Melo's game at times.But Karl wants attention to sell this book to trash and bash former players for profit. He seems to seek attention himself.
yup, controversy sells, who would read the boat if he talks about coaching and how he loves his players
Carmelo Anthony, Kenyon Martin, JR Smith, Allen Iverson, Ray Allen, Gary Payton, Andre Igudola, Ty Lawson & Boogie Cousins all hated George Karl when he coached them... Who's the common denominator in this equation?
Exactly.
Liberty City El I would love to see all of them write a book about George Karl lol
the common denominator?.....Spoiled entitled millionaires .....Karl said something that may have been offensive?...maybe...but was it true?...and in melo case?...yes it was (and still is)
Liberty City El and Eduardo Najera
No, Gary Payton loved George Karl. He viewed him as a father figure.
They can hate him but it doesn't mean what he said is untrue.
I agree about Carmelo's game, but he was out of bounds about Melo and JR's dad
Air Jay *kenyon, jr has a dad. i think his dad runs a jr smith store in NJ
Matt The Knicks Fan I know but the fact George say fatherless it made me pissed don't ever talk about our family
Matt The Knicks Fan On Carmelo game, I felt he just there because he gifted. None wrong with that but if he wanted to be the man he need to carry himself as a man (basketball term) like LeBron. Melo need to pass more, make teammates better, defensively, he talented in score but everybody can score
Air Jay i think its the other way around, everyone can play defense(rather than offense) all u gotta do is slide your feet and talk. but just like harden, he wanted the other 4 to handle that and he'll handle the offense.
hes gotten better over the years, he had 15 in a quarter tuesday while he limited pg13 to 16 for the whole game.
I know, Ima Rose fan and tell the truth I don't like Melo, but respect him. Melo got to do more, imagine if he did all LeBron can (famous dex voice) oh man got damn
George Karl always throws his main guys under the bus Gary Payton in Seattle Sam cassell in Milwaukee melo in Denver his track record speaks for itself
Okay, to attack someone's character is wrong, BUT to write it in a book and to PROFIT off of it is even worse.
Any NBA team who wants to hire Karl should be tested. Karl's system no longer works in this NBA
Is it me or is undisputed better than first take? I mean Shannon, Skip, and Joy are doing a great 👍 job here. I'm not bias, i have been watching first take since 8th grade. I'm in 12th now.
joy is useless eye candy
nyc Jones how is she useless it's a debate between 2 not 3 plus when gets to talk it's not dumb at all
Both good but Shannon better than Max. This show goes downhill when Skip talks about Dallas and Tom Brady
It helps that we can actually find the clips easy on TH-cam, not to mention the podcast. ESPN has gotten too big for it's britches.
nyc Jones Joy is hilarious how she trolls Shannon
George Karl never got along with his star players
he wants a team of scrubs to make him look like hes better with no star players
This is the only way a NBA coach get get back at the players that drove him batty
Especially when the "Star" player is a LOSER.
Carmelo and prime Dwight Howard on the same team they are winning championships
Joy love showing off the girls.
bighosre10 Yes she is
Melo gonna shake them haters off
#Factz
Self Made Trillin he needs to leave the Knicks if he's gonna do that
I'm Just Tryna Rap Facts
melo is leaving the league ringless
not averaging 22 points a game.... facts
AnDr3w066 he can do what David west is doing
"He really knows basketball". He was a fkg head coach Skip. Answer the question head on.
Byron Scott was a head coach too, though Jason Kidd said his 6 yr old at the time would be a better coach.
George Karl is 100% correct. He covered up all of Carmelos weaknesses with the team he built in Denver when they were good. Carmelo only did one thing in Denver and that was shoot. He got beat off the dribble consistently and always had Kenyon Martin, Marcus Camby and Nene to pick up his slack and do his dirty work. Then he forces his way out of Denver and is struggling to win in a weak eastern conference. That 2014 season before they drafted porzingez he straight up quit on the knicks. Melo is not a top 15 player and barely a top 20 player if you ask me. George Karl did was Stan can Gundy did for Dwight Howard hid their weaknesses and then they got exposed once they left
trey092001 just because he is super talented offensive player doesn't mean he has to be great on defense. EVERYONE has a weakness, that why basketball is a team game, and you need complimentary talent for everyone to shine and succeed. For Carl to now criticize Anthony sounds very diva-like to me
Melo always believed in the One man game, too bad he can't do it like Jordan
trey092001
Dwight Howard's numbers went way down after he left Orlando. You can't say the same with melo. Actually Melo has had some of his best performances with the knicks. What we knew about Melos game then we know now. Nothing has been "exposed"
azzam muhiddin Melo had better performances because he kept the ball. They actually played like a team during Linsanity but we all knew who blew that up lol
Frank Heck Jeremy Lin is garbage and only had 10 good games. He is no where to be seen in the NBA
Karl's had beef with every star player he coached. In Seattle, he got fired for his beef with Gary Payton. In Milwaukee, it was Ray Allen, in Denver, it was most of the Nuggets roster, and in Sac, it was Boogie.
Still guy is still talkin about Melo cmon son, Melo ain't thinkin about George Karl
Melo's not thinking about winning either.
really ty Lawson, boogy cousins, JR Smith? didn't like their coach? what great character guys... Karl is edgie and pushes players some players aren't tuff enough to he pushed. Gary Payton said that Karl was great for him and really helped his career. guess Payton was mentally tuff enough to be coached and be honest with
The young players can't handle it unless you tell them how great they are and give them a participation trophy
Kevin Walker Andre Igoudala, Ray Allen and Sam Cassell also had problems with him
Kirklan Bell and Shaq and Kobe had problem s with Phil, so did Micheal and Pippen. Magic had problems with his coaches. arguing, and disagreeing is part of striving to improve and get better.
Kevin Walker this isn't just "arguing and disagreeing" Karl talked about these players on a personal level. his comments were low blows
Kirklan Bell JR, Boogy, and Carmelo have to big of egos and don't don't have the growth mindset, where they can handle constructive criticism. they just quit trying, and that's why they are not winners
Skip "I know George very well" Bayless
Joy is so much hotter than Molly
Adam Leon Agree......JOY IS WAYYYYYY SEXIER THAN MOLLY!!!!!
W molly is old.
100 Hoes Kaido
Molly is only 32 lol she just looks gross
100 Hoes Kaido how old is she
yep and she aint scared to show cleavage
Damn Joy on point, very festive indeed.
the father comment is what should be discussed
What he said about Melo not playing defense was true. All the personal attacks were out of line.
It was in poor taste of Karl. He's trying to legitimize his coaching shortcomings by bastardizing former players
Dr. Joseph Grant III they both suck. That's where the truth lies.
well said mate
Karl's book explains why LINSNATIY was kicked outta New York!!
Typical George Karl, never takes blame for failure, but is willing to help you (or remind you if necessary) heap all of the credit on to his placid shoulders, where his ego is perched unbothered with the world around him. His premise, Melo is no saint on or off the court, may be true, but his reasoning and approach to sharing his experience is ego-maniacal, self-centered, and irrational. Funny, cause that's what Karl would have you believe about anyone he does not approve of!
Lost All respect for Coach Karl speaking on a young black man not having they father in they life because you never know how they dealing with that behind closed doors.
he talked about father smh
When u don't win talk like this happens. Melo never shown to be the diva type. Matter of fact he never shown to complain ever to the media or anyone. Melo I feel can get a ring like Dirk did
dirk is less selfish and is more willing to be a 2nd or third option. Melo isn't and has never been that guy
AnDr3w066 true but I think he's changing this year with porzingis and Rose
SKII x TheFranchise Whenever someone gets hot on his team dirk has no problem on not being the star. He never demands the ball more than what he deserves and has a ring because of it. Despite having an undertalented team compared to lebron's heat. You are just mad that melo never amounted to anything.
***** probably not with the Knicks but maybe for a different team later on in his career
arsh bull Doubt it.. PorzinGOD gets overlooked at times and rose can't stay healthy. So for now melo is still in control and I don't see that changing no matter where he goes.
Well I mean he isn't wrong...
George Karl was partially right. Carmelo was not happy during Linsanity and his spotlight was being taken away from him. He was the main people who drove Lin out of town.
Stephen B. Smith true
Bruh I've never seen a grown man who had a father to look up to talk about other's father like that smh
Melo is all about making his money, if he was about winning, he'd take pay cuts to allow his team's front office to add talent around him. Melo is overrated
Aaron H. Babin pay cuts dont guarantee you get stars.... ESPECIALLY WHEN PHIL TURNED DOWN CLEANTHONY "BUM" EARLY FOR JAE CROWDER!!!! jae crowder is melo's on nemesis in the division, tho melo cooks him. imagine the best scorer(on the court) with the best perimeter defender on the court
Matt The Knicks Fan OK well if pay cuts don't attract FA, then Melo is bad at conveniencing players to join
Aaron H. Babin actually, once again phil is. LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE SAID "I DONT WANT TO PLAY CENTER" PHIL ASKS HIN TO PLAY CENTER AND HE CANCELS HIS MEETING WITH US! nect thing u know LA is a center for SAS.... cuz they have great role players and a rising star
Matt The Knicks Fan LA is a punk, diva
agree. No matter how much the Knicks suck, they will always sell out at the Garden. SIgning Melo was about making the $$$ for James Dolan, they had no plans of ever building a team
Is Melo a top-5 player in the NBA? Top-10?
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 top 10
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 top 10
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 Top 15 but he is still capable of being Top 10 talent
STG top 20
No, he only plays one side of the ball.
Karl's book explains why LINSNATIY was kicked outta New York!!!
how?
I literally have no idea WHY Melo has been getting all this unfair hate the last couple of years. Offensively, I do not need to explain to anybody why he is so great. Passing? He doesn't get nearly the credit he deserves for it, like every volume shooter. Defense? People try to pretend that Melo is not one of the strongest and most physical combo forwards in the League, great rebounder and when pushed and focused, a very capable defender from 3-5. That, equals a GREAT player, a SUPERSTAR. A basketball player that can do 8 out of 10 things at an elite level.
STOP-THE-HATE
Roberto Carlos "when pushed and focus" my boy you just answered your own question. LeBron brings it ever game. you get paid millions dollars you shouldn't have to feel like you want to try that night
Woah @ Joy!!! Skip is trying really hard to keep his eyes forward.
Man Management is Essential in Coaching ,for any Sport
They didn't mention the fatherless thing he said that was hella racist and stereotyping.
joy is getting outta hand
Optimus Dime I meant in terms of looks, she's getting too pretty
oh joy
What if Melo was drafted by Pistons
Paul S people would be talking about how great he is compared to LBJ. because he would have 2-3 championships easily.
people act like this is surprising about Carmelo. Have you ever watched him?
George Karl was way out of bounds for this. Just looking for publicity
if u cant get along with every player you coach..maybe you should get a mirror old man..
Joy, you do something with your hair
It's the truth.
Mint Lynx Except for when he brought his father into it, that crossed the line.
top 5 player? HAHAHAHAHA. lucky to be top 5 at his position, let alone in the NBA.
damnnnnnnnnnnnnn joy
Anyone notice when Skip's talking Joy is smiling and when Shannon's talking she all serious..... lmao
No carmelo is not a top 5 player 😐 Melo needs to hurry up and gtfo New York⏰ ticking
nobody wants melo anymore..a ball hog who cant play defence..if i want a leader for my team to be built around i would rather have cj MCCOLLUM THAN THE DIVA MELO
FGE Gene Melo stays u go
Karl spoke the truth
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Honestly, I never understood the hype around Carmelo. I always thought he was overrated. He was a star, not a superstar. George was out of line when he mentioned family, but no one can argue what he said about Melo's game. Anyone who has paid attention over the years can agree that both George and Melo underachieved, especially together...
Did Iverson mention George Karl in his HOF speech?
Brehon Mills Yea
Skip about to ask fox for a "final take" segment lol
why do people in the comments get so sensitive when it comes to Melo. just accept he didn't live up to his potential
Carmelo is basically the Tony Romo of the NBA world but with far less criticism. The only difference is Romo was actually loved by his teammates.
Skip has great insight. Can't be perfect but he has great insight man.
Just here for my daily dose of Ms Joy Taylor
Shannon makes no sense, players will always defend their teammates over a coach
NBA
I'm starting to like this show more than First Take!!
Has anyone ever stopped to think that what George Karl is saying could be true? Carmelo has lost more than won with the knicks, with the knicks being a more successful team when Lin and stoudemire were running the team, not to mention how he gutted the knicks of any assets when he did make his way in, instead of just signing for a free agent for money reasons, which is somewhat understandable, but he obviously had the most powerful hand at the table and could have rejected the trade had he felt the knicks were giving up too much.
George is jealous
1. George Karl is trying to sell a book. 2. This was a chance for Charles Barkley to act like he's not a sellout. 3. Buy or Sell: Phil Jackson pulls Melo to the side and whispers, "Well George does have a point. You couldn't stop a nosebleed with big blanket."
He talked about carmelo and Kenyon martins fathers... so disrespectful
Melo should play D
It's not a tough question " is George Karl in bounds or out of bounds " ( in regards to what he said in his book about Melo ) it's not a tough question AT ALL ) .
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Idc how off topic this is but @6:30 Joy look like she posing for a model magazine or something lol 😂
I'd say AI was the biggest star Karl coached
oh not posse again..
of course it's fair. why hasn't another all star demanded to play with him? figure it out for yourself.
Criteria for the Top Ten in first half of 2016-17/Individual skill, effort, and numbers. Team success cannot be counted because if you trade Lebron for Anthony Davis, the Pelicans would still stink, just a lil less. 1. Lebron James 2. Russell Westbrook 3. Kevin Durant 4. James Harden 5. Anthony Davis 6. Kawhi Leanord 7. Demarcus Cousins 8. Kyrie Irving 9. Steph Curry 10. Isaiah Thomas
So, when are they going to fire Shannon?
say what you want about melo as a player, but the moment you bring up family that's out of line, and on top of that, Melo's father died of cancer when he was 2, so that whole not having a father comment is just heartless and a bigoted remark, to assume him not having a father figure is why he is the way he is, and what exactly is wrong with melo? he's always been a class act, has a great wife and son, Karl is just a bitter man because he has all those wins and nothing to show for it, if people from as far back as Gary Payton have a problem with you, then it's clearly not the players fault
trade Melo to the Clippers for Blake.
The man is allowed to have his opinion. There is no way this is "out of bounds".
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cwjalex your definition of personal attacks differs greatly from mine my friend. All the same, I respect where you are coming from
Saying people needed to be taught how to be men and that their lack of father figures prevents them from succeeding is extremely personal.
If it was off the court/off field.... more times than not its out of bounds. Talking about parents who we can't even choose is wayyyyy out of bounds.
so they are saying the 2012 knicks with melo, amar'e, tyson chandler, jr smith etc isn't a good enough roster to go on a run in the east? get outta here
Magnus Øia is wasn't pacers and heat were better if I remember even the celetics and bulls were better
DJ Khalid's Evil Twin by time we got to indy, jr elbowed the team apart. remember his suspension vs boston? from that point foward melo, novak, n cope were the only 3 who actually came to ball. and melo had a torn labrum
Magnus Øia no cuz you the heat had their big 3, the celtics still had their championship roster, the bulls were a powerhouse and the pacers were making noise. And that's just the east.
Magnus Øia
If u out the right pieces around melo he can DELIVER
azzam muhiddin 2012 bulls werent a powerhouse
Wonder how he felt about Kemp n gp
I don’t know why they didn’t sue him for defamation of character and emotional distress
Skip said George Karl knows basketball almost like he is some sort of basketball savant lol. Don't agree with Karl's comments but he's forgotten more basketball than skip will ever know. He really thinks because he covered the game for so long, meaning he asked athletes questions for years after games that he really knows more than NBA coaches
how dare Shannon say AI was on his last leg...
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I love Melo, but he's not even a Top 5 SF:
1. Bron
2. KD
3. Kawhi
4. Paul George
5. Greek Freak
And I could make a strong case for Gordon Haywood. Look at their numbers this year....very similiar. Utah is better than NYK in a tougher conference with less talent. So that's 5 definite, and maybe 6
The Wade-O Radio Video Channel. melody better than pg13
The Wade-O Radio Video Channel I think Giannis playing SG but yeah he's better than melo this year
Clearly aint watch Melo play PG this past week.
Wonder what he has to say about Demarcus Cousins, the guy who got him fired.
If you feel a coach has the right to criticize his players or former players publicly, then what he said is fine. George Karl is not the first person who has said this about Carmelo Anthony.
Is it a coach's job to be a father figure? Some say yes some say no. I don't think it's my boss' job to make sure I know what I'm doing with my personal life. That's my 2 cents.
What has Melo done recently to be getting so much attention??
Ronold Cledor He got D Rose on his team.
Ronold Cledor Knicks are kinda sorta good this year.
He said he believes he is top 5 still
+Milton Lane would say above average
Every week Melo makes headlines while having an average season on an average eastern conference team.
top 5 yep
he played with Iverson on his last legs ? averaging 26-7 is on your last legs? ok.
GC brah that's the one year they went to the conference finals and the next year AI game fell off pretty bad in efficiency. Numbers sometimes do lie. plus that teams defense was not good
choosenone20901 well the year before he was almost the same numbers just wasnt healthy the whole season, and thr year after next you are referring to he was traded THREE games into the season
im glad karl and phil jackson are calling out this thugs like jr smith and lebron for what they are
George had Rajon leading in assists and best center and could not get near playoffs. Both players did their job
RASICT
He smith, cousins, Melo, Kenyon, all have attitude problems, George was right about all of them, only wrong about bringing up there families. George had blasted Melo before about his defense. The only one you can't knock is Iguodola
emani you can also use a lot of groceries
Adding Melo to your team will only make your team worse. Melo is a great scorer but a horrible player. He doesn't make his teammates better at all.
the truths hurt...melo overrated
coaches always writing books about and have the need to slam players they coach in the pass. i guess ppl wont buy the book if they dont put something to make ppl buy the book
Although the statement was true about Carmelo, I don't feel like this should be something an ex Coach should say about his former players or anyone really...
You know Carmelo???
How many of those that have spoken out against Karl went on to become better, more successful players after they parted ways?
Seattle is expanding with a new team
New coach George Karl
Picks up Durant and LeBron James
They're mascot is a Snake
Correction. Iverson was coached by Karl and he is better then melo
Why is skip talking basketball? Him and George should go be good friends somewhere else