There ISN'T a "Teacher Shortage" in the United States
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- We only have a "shortage" of teachers who want to be treated like disposable objects.
There are plenty of wonderful and passionate #teachers out there who could be in the classroom educating our youth.
But they aren't there...and neither am I.
Around 3/4 of a million educators have left or retired early since January, 2020. Crippling #mentalhealth issues, #stress, and #burnout have paralyzed the profession.
It is no small wonder why the #transitioningteachers community has grown so large here on LinkedIn and other sites.
Podcasts (like our #breakingthefourthwall podcast I cohost with David), comedy tours, and support groups have sprung up to help teachers leave the public school system.
What we have is a critical #teacherrecruitment and #teacherretention problem...NOT a "shortage."
What can I say?
You reap what you sow.
#careerchange #edxit #personalgrowth
Word. There are lots of us out there. We just don’t want to do the job anymore.
Absolutely, it's just sad how the job has degraded to the state it's in now.
Nothing is being done to attract back teachers who are not teaching. There are simple solutions. Ban cell phones, increase pay and benefits, stop forcing teachers to be social workers, discipline students and build affordable housing for teachers. You are absolutely right about the admins and evals. Most of these admins left the classroom before becoming competent teachers themselves.
Precisely! It's honestly not that hard to recruit and retain quality educators if you actually treat them as professionals and pay them the wage that multiple degrees and certifications entitle them to. Instead, we've de-professionalized educators, pay them far below people who have commensurate levels of education and experience, and have essentially surrendered the school system to student and administrative control. Admin doesn't provide repercussions for anything anymore and the kids know it.
Ban cell phones ? 😂 what
@@thisgirlisoverit I didn't comment on that originally because I'm conflicted on the idea of banning cellphones. My cohost and I actually recorded an entire podcast episode on this almost a year ago where we discussed that cell phones are heavily disrupting the classroom these days but that banning may not be realistic either. Give it a listen if you're interested:
open.spotify.com/episode/5GYXa9gt7aUA0UkM2ME7hB?si=Z6aYD_jKRO-Z2-hudX38-Q
"Most admins left the classroom before becoming competent teachers themselves"--EXACTLY!!!
I've been in education 27 years and during my generation, I had to teach 10 years before I could become an admin and my nephew only taught a 1.5 years and became an admin before me. His comment was he had to fire teachers and he himself hates teaching!
@@judisnyder4868 We've reached the point that administrators are often people who have no experience in education at all, or were only teachers for 2 years before moving up because they hated actually being in the classroom. This is becoming the new norm by far.
I once had an admin that everyone knew totally failed as a teacher and moved up to be an assistant principal to avoid being fired for poor performance. It's why no one respected her and her ideas were always nonsensical or out of touch. She actually played a massive role in getting me let go from that school when I called her out on her incompetence.
The egos teachers have to put up with their admin alone is causing so many to leave the classroom. I always name administrators as one of the top two reasons I quit teaching entirely.
So true! I had enough violence, abuse and insults from kids, parents and admin!!!! WAKE UP Americans and fight for teacher rights!!!
Exactly! Education has reached a reckoning over the last 4 and a half years because teachers have finally woken up to how bad our students have become since the pandemic.
We finally found our voice and realized that in the end, we have to take care of ourselves first. We spent a long time being the selfless teacher that dutifully did a service for society but have now found positions and careers where we can take care of our mental health, have work life balance, and be there for those we care about.
Parents can be a teacher’s worst enemy.
Especially these days with what is being termed "Roommate Parents" who want teachers to parent their children while they get to just hang out with them and be their friend.
@@KevinTheID I actually had a parent say, “ he’s done raised and your problem now”. He was in the 6th grade! Maybe some people need to apply to reproduce.
@@Judy-b2q Yeah...that's pretty negligent parenting.
THANK YOU for making this distinction. If the conditions were suddenly right, plenty of teachers would be right there tomorrow morning!!!!
Of course! I think the media (like everyone else) just latches on to what the main narrative is - which is "teacher shortage" - and never ask the teachers themselves what that really means. We're often the last to be consulted about anything.
I know I never would have left education if so many things were different...but her =e we are.
I'm still certified. After 15 years in the classroom, I will never teach secondary school classes again.
My credential was up for renewal a little over a year after I quit the classroom for good and I decided to let it lapse. No fanfare or care in the world when it did either.
It took me a couple of weeks to even realize that it had happened since I was no longer interested in maintaining it anyway. I'm much happier now and have no plans to ever return to teaching - even if my life depended on it.
This is the best CONCISE video I've ever seen on this topic! You have nailed it most concisely! Thank you! I'll be saving and sharing this video with others.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that!
Great video. I work as a substitute teacher with my job as a farmer. Teachers and their support staff deserve better.
Thanks! I really wish more of society and those with actual political capital to change the system for the better saw it the same way.
This is a common thread in different professions around the globe. Therecare no shortage if trained teachers or nurses. Just a shortage of folks unwilling to work under the conditions or for the crappy pay,
Sadly, that's the truth.
I quit 1 year ago, and wish I quit sooner. I have my sanity back
Glad you got out! Having sanity back is priceless for me as well.
2% raise doesn’t begin to cut the mustard- salary doesn’t pay the bills. They also won’t pay for essential training- so no career enrichment.
Yeah, our "raises" never meet the standard of living or inflation, so we're actually making less every year. Plus, we aren't making a salary commensurate with people who have the same level of degrees and certifications - because educators aren't seen as professionals and content experts anymore, just professional babysitters.
Even with training too, there's just no career advancement in education. Unless you want to take on more work for a stipend or become an administrator, there's nowhere for you to go. That leads to career stagnation over time.
The kid is like, “YOU can’t make me do that.” The parents are like, “YOU do know he learns differently and he has anxiety…” The admin is like, “What can YOU do to make him more engaged?” The teacher is like, “What just happened?” By the way, the teacher is me.
@@jpope37Oh pretty sure that was all of us. Instead of everyone working together for the betterment of our students like we used to, it is everyone dogpile on the teacher now since we are the easiest to push around.
What they don't realize is that we're now leaving over that treatment.
You are so right. In my own bubble I see a couple, mostly young, teachers leave each year because they are disillusioned by what they have to put up with on a daily basis. All they/we want to do is teach but are blind sided by everything you have described.
@@jpope37 Exactly this problem - teachers don't teach anymore and are too bogged down with things outside of their job description. They get disillusioned because the career isn't what they envisaged it to be and credentialing classes don't prepare them for that either.
@@KevinTheID In the U.S., public schools are not about academics or learning, it’s about babysitting kids. Babysitting, social working, entertainment is the number 1 priority, academics is secondary. It’s sad, but that’s how the culture of the US is. Education is not valued. Asian countries, education is priority. Teachers are respected and valued. Why is the U.S. like this?
@@jjc6530 You are unfortunately correct. I have mentioned in other videos how we are frankly turning teachers into professional babysitters (or "facilitators") rather than treating them as the professionals they are.
I think Americans have slowly started to turn on education in the last 20 years as we've become more and more dispassionate about formal learning. We seem to think we can learn just fine through informal methods, like "Professor Google and TH-cam" rather than placing any value in classroom learning.
Social media and the internet have made information readily available so people wonder what we need public education for now since they feel they can get what they need online - without realizing that bias and misinformation exist that they need to learn how to differentiate between.
Wow. "Student disrespect is the worst it has ever been." Surely the administration, parents, government et al realise this .... don't they???
That's a tough question to answer actually.
On the one hand, they're fully aware of how violent students have become, but on the other hand, it benefits them to do nothing about it.
Parenting has changed to wanting to be their kids' friend instead of giving them actual boundaries - this is why more and more of a teachers' job is to babysit and parent instead of actually educate.
Policymakers promote soft policies because it appeals to these same kind of parents. It looks good to pander to them for election purposes.
And administrators don't enforce the rules or boundaries either because then it means they legitimately don't have to do anything. We have "social media administrators" now who are more concerned with their image and getting promoted rather than actually supporting their staff. Plus, most of them are either failed teachers with only 2-3 years of experience or people who have no teaching experience at all and thus have no clue what good discipline or learning looks like.
O it started way before the pandemic. The pandemic just made the miserable intolerable. It is a very frustrating profession on many levels. Thank you for telling the unvarnished truth.
My pleasure and totally agree with you too!
The pandemic and distance learning finally gave teachers a better view of what they were putting up with on a daily basis and perspective on how our lives could be better. Oh yeah, and it made us realize that the system was never going to get better no matter how much of our work or money we funneled into it. We deserved better than what little we were getting out of it.
We did a whole podcast episode on this exact point actually by the way in case you wanted to listen. COVID didn't kill public education, it just made it worse:
open.spotify.com/episode/1acAjK7iBIclsFclZKeS0o?si=9XNWw5ePSWGZVXvV6_9rVA
Teacher, day care worker, social worker, prison guard, soldier, prisoner... Which time-on-task happens most in the American classroom.
You forgot psychologist, couple counselor and good guy with a gun.
Lot of teachers, but lot of them don’t want to do it anymore.
Indeed! Yet for some reason, they refuse to do anything about the reasons we left.
The biggest issue of education is that it is in the hands of local politicians not qualified educators. Education has become a political pawn. In Texas 20 years ago there were 10 juvenile Justice facilities to deal with juvenile felony offenders. Today there are only five which are grossly under staffed. 10 years ago the Texas legislature passed House Bill 383 which allowed judges to sentence juvenile offenders to alternative education settings paid for with county property taxes instead of state taxes taking money away from regular school programs. The logic behind this was schools have counselors and social work in place so they should deal with juvenile criminality and not the state. More work for the overworked and underfunded education system.
Oh yeah, I think anyone with half a brain has known for a long time that education has been subverted by politicians to push agendas. Though politics have always been a component of education, it had never reached the levels it does now.
Teachers are now seen as professional babysitters rather than their deserved status as subject matter experts. As a result, we aren't consulted on anything that we need or asked on what would actually make the system better. It's like ordering a new building be constructed without ever consulting a construction worker.
I live in DFW, there are billboards everywhere that say stuff like "want to teach? Start tomorrow!" They've been up for years. No one will do it. When I was still on FB, I got bombarded with ads to become a teacher, I would comment things like "So I can get shot at for $8/hr? Pass". Maybe it's a crappy reaction, but where's the lie?
@@AG-iu9lv Of course no one will do it anymore. It's a terrible environment and one that everyone is aware of now. The public school system can't hide how bad it is these days and with the sheer number of teachers who have left, people are now hearing our horror stories on top of that.
About 15% of the teachers in the entire country have left since January, 2020. Think about that. 🤷♂
No supplies, no curriculum, no support, way too many required tasks on top of teaching, too many needs in one room that no single person can meet, low pay, abuse from students, admin, parents…. And crappppyyy pay. Hmmm, wonder why no one wants to teach.
I know...it's like people are somehow surprised that educators have finally woken up to how abusive and toxic a job teaching is and chose other careers instead.
It feels like society as a whole, and politicians and administrators in particular, believed that the goldilocks era of teachers doing as they were told and being professional babysitters would never end.
I totally agree 💯 %
And sometimes if there's a curriculum, it usually sucks and does not work for all students. It only works for a perfect classroom
@@animecookies8784 Unfortunately that's the truth. The curriculum is often written for a classroom that doesn't exist.
It doesn't help that influential " educators " like Jeffery Canada and many others encouraged the cult, the myth of the SUPER TEACHER. That stalwart always available, working from a sick bed, ignoring their own kids for yours, and epitome of selfless dedication. According to him and the Gates, and Broad Foundations, that teacher alone is the: " single most important factor in determining a student's academic outcomes ". Not the family or home environment, not a student own work ethic, and motivation, just the teacher. They'll get it done. They'll do it despite exhaustion, poor pay, disrespect, personal crisis, student idolence, roommate parent indifference, shit loads of central office compliance bullshit, mandated assessment
curriculums, etcetcetc. Fuck it all....
I think that decades' old illusion has finally broken too with the fact that so many teachers have not only left but how much we have de-professionalized educators in recent years.
We aren't superhuman and we're tired of trying to live up to that moniker. We completely burned out from it and realized we could find a better life outside of the classroom than what the role of teacher could provide.
I am 70 years old and starting my 41st year in Secondary Education. I am tenured and love my job . Great benefits, terrible time investment, rowdy and electronically challenged students . I am a grandpa of 11 and teacher to around 100 students a year. The challenge is that I am 70 years old and I make less than I did in 1980 and I am at the top of the District pay scale. I cannot afford to retire so I will continue living and serving my students until they haul me out on a gurney! That’s all for now.
Your students are fortunate to have such a committed educator! However, the fact that you're making less than at the start of your career and can't retire continues to illuminate one of the core issues of public education as a whole right now. I hope you get to enjoy you well-deserved retirement soon!
@@KevinTheID Thanks! Hanging in there. Someone needs to stay in order to keep the boat from sinking and drowning even more little ones. I don’t feel like the Captain of the Titanic but maybe more like the Old Man and the Sea!
You must work in a very small town in America and a state like Oklahoma or someplace where you have 12-15 kids per classroom.
@@judisnyder4868 Most likely. I know it was incredibly rare here in SoCal to have any fewer than 36 per class.
Yeah, there’s no therapist shortage either. There are a lot of therapists who can’t make enough to pay for daycare, or cannot deal with the mental health costs of working in schools. I’m so grateful for the awesome school I get to work in. It can be so, so awful. De-professionalism is a huge issue for us, too. We have the same degree as private practice occupational therapists, physical therapists, and speech therapists, but parents frequently devalue our professional input. It’s less valuable because it’s free to them, so they expect a 20-year veteran to follow directions from a brand-new grad, because she’s in private practice and must be smarter. It’s just a reflection of overall disrespect for public education, and the political attempts to shut it down using a public relations campaign.
That doesn't surprise me at all unfortunately. We've de-professionalized education and everything to such a degree that we have eroded the institution as a whole.
Sure, there's the political argument that they want to privatize education, but at the same time we need to acknowledge that part of it is just a changing culture when it comes to parenting. They expect educators to not only teach their children but also parent them as well because they just want to be their kids' friends - which is beyond our purview and saddles educators with more work and stress that they don't need.
It's debilitating the professional as a whole and leading us down a road where students will be taught by the worst quality educators.
@@KevinTheID I’ve seen the deflection of responsibility things, but it seems to vary widely even within my own metro area. Refugees and new immigrants don’t do that, for the most part. But every school where I’ve worked has had at least a few entitled parents. Sometimes to a comical degree. I love serving a school with 30% English Language Learners. The kids come in with a work ethic, and their parents are actually grateful. I mean, a good number of the other families are great, too. But it’s really obvious which kids have no behavioral expectations at home. And their parents would really like us to fix that. Along with teaching them to tie their shoes, wipe their own noses, etc. If I had a whole school full of that, I would have quit a long time ago.
@@AprilFriday-de6vm Well put!
Absolutely.
In my area 3000-5000 lost their jobs due to mandates and now on the news there’s a teacher shortage?! There are tens of thousands of teachers in Australia who refuse to go back. NSW education minister offered 1400 permanent jobs - in the largest population state of Australia?!? Is this a joke? She then offered to pay teacher registration of $100 per teacher for the year… again insult to injury. No one is looking at addressing the real issues in education. I myself am trying to leave. I signed up for six months but got a migraine stressing over planning for my new school I had to email the principal and pull out. My body simply cant handle that stress anymore even for a better school. I agree there’s no teacher shortages. Those in leadership roles climb the greasy pole to promotion and are on six figure incomes while those of stuck teaching will never break thru to leadership and will remain on significant lower pay. There’s no teacher shortage!
I should also add back in 2010 Australia moved away from permanent work and only offered contracts or casual employment. This has meant most teachers my age and experience have never had a permanent job or job security. So when NSW offered only 1400 permanent positions it was a real insult to the situation.
That's astonishing and unsurprising at the same time. We too are experiencing major layoffs in the U.S. despite also saying we don't have enough teachers - and yet they refuse to understand that root causes of that problem and why over a million educators have quit or retired early since January, 2020. This situation is happening all over the world and we honestly refuse to admit that it is as big of a reckoning that it is.
I think it would be absolutely wonderful to have you on our podcast to talk about the situation in Australia and how it is concurrent to that here in the United States if you would be interested!
@@KevinTheID actually I’d love too
Glad to hear that! Here's the link to my LinkedIn page: www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-wheeler92/
Go ahead and message me on there and we can set something up!
I can only speak for my area, but the actual "teacher shortage" is in SPED, math, and science teachers. If you're a secondary humanities (social studies, English, art, PE/health) teacher, then there's the opposite. A massive surplus and too few jobs because those are the easiest endorsements to get...especially if you've recently entered the education field after graduating from teacher training program. Good freaking luck finding a job! We practically have to fight each other everytime a job posting comes up, and 99% of the time, schools already know who they're hiring (it's not you). The jobs that are available are ones people don't want.
Combine all this with rampant student behavior issues, social media/screen use, indifferent administration, hostile or ignorant parents, and a crumbling system that stresses teachers out, pays low salaries, and dwindling support. Yeah, no wonder we're leaving in droves.
It's similar here, we have a massive surplus in secondary Humanities. As a history teacher, I remember just how difficult it was to find a job and there were years where I didn't find something and had to substitute. I had to get a dual credential in English just to improve my chances of getting a new position at one point, which though proved successful, still showed how much we had to do to get noticed.
The situation is horrendous in education these days as a whole and teachers have finally stopped putting up with it. I think the general public sees how bad it is now too and are choosing alternative options for their children; hence the push for school choice and the declining enrollment schools are facing in part due to that.
@@KevinTheID Indeed. I'm a history teacher and subbed for years as well. I've actually left public education and transitioned to working in museums. I get to work in my field of historical interest and it's much less stressful. I still sub on occasion if I'm bored and want an extra bit of money.
@@fwfs Best of both worlds I think. I also looked into museums when I was transitioning out but the ones in my area are either far away, don't pay much, or are entirely volunteer based.
I believe the news stated there are 54,000 teachers job opening in this country.
That's probably low-balling the real number too.
Truth
And nothing but the truth!
In one of the Despicable movie ads two boxers were punching the referee until the ref was on the floor. Then the meds came out to help and the boxers punched the nurse. That is our society teaching violence against authority.
Really we have a shortage of students that anybody wants to teach.
That's definitely true. The number of kids we want to teach are dwindling by the day, which is sad for those kids who actually want to learn and grow.
Yep.
First year teacher. High School chemistry. These kids are horrible.
@@SongSingsSopranoThey really are horrible and I don't see that improving anytime soon. Parenting has changed and we no longer hold kids accountable either.
The number has gone down from the normal 5 years for new teachers to burn out to 1 or 2. My partner burned out during her student teaching for heaven's sake.
There’s a HUGE Teacher shortage in Texas! Thousands of teachers are leaving as fast as they can. They are underpaid, overworked, disrespected, beaten up by their students. And they are being asked by administrators and republican politicians Do you PRAY???” As if that would somehow make a difference.
The disrespect and abuse has eroded the profession to its core. Teachers can't get out fast enough.
Republican politicians? Really? Democrats run the school systems!
This is NOT what I signed up for in 2005
It's not what any of us signed up for - but ironically it's what most people in the general public seem to think is what we agreed to.
No - I chose to be a teacher and educate students, not be mentally and physically assaulted on a daily basis.
I can't see this situation ever improving. The damage has been done over many years. It's beginning to look like Israel and Palestine unsolvable.
On the contrary, it's an easy thing to solve, unlike the deep cultural and religious issues that plague Israel and Palestine that prevent them from reaching a simple or sensible compromise.
For education:
1. Pay teachers a living wage.
2. Have actual disciplinary consequences for student misbehavior.
3. Restore teacher's abilities to remove troublesome students.
4. Hire administrators who are actually interested in helping their staff rather than just using teachers to get promoted.
5. Allow teachers more flexibility with how they plan and execute curriculum.
6. Abolish the current teacher evaluation system and replace it with one that is fairer instead of one that promotes a "gotcha culture."
7. Allow teachers to evaluate their administrators in the same way administrators evaluate teachers.
8. Abolish standardized testing as an institution in order to stop using it as a basis for evaluations, funding, curriculum, and political control.
9. Ban cellphones or at least create a better system to teach kids how to properly use technology in the classroom. It's currently used as a crutch.
10. Stop socially promoting students who haven't met basic skills and content requirements in order to inflate graduation rates.
11. Increase security across the board.
12. Change school schedules to allow both teachers and students to have actual time off/work-life balance and make school more engaging.
13. Treat educators as subject matter experts with a wealth of knowledge rather than professional babysitters.
Now, I know that listing these things are far easier said than done, but this shows that if you actually want to recruit and retain teachers, the steps to do so are right in front of us. However, politicians and administrators won't commit to any of these changes because it goes against their best interests - even though they don't realize that education never was about their best interests. It's supposed to be about the teachers and their students' best interests.
@KevinTheID Hi Kevin, you make many good points, but your best one was: "If you actually want to recruit and retain teachers". The sad reality is they don't. Project 2025, for example, wants to abolish the Department of Education.
All the points you make have been made(except for phones) and not addressed since the Reagan(the original villain) Era when I started teaching.
I think blaming this on Reagan isn't fair (with the exception of standardized testing which is generally on him).
These problems have been a slow burn since the 1960's and the Vietnam War. Like you pointed out, those with actual political capital don't really have any vested interest in making the system better or recruiting/retaining quality educators. That began with the lack of trust in the government that arose from the handling of Vietnam and the antics of Nixon in the 1970's. Those in power started to use education to push agendas at that point and introduced legislation that changed the nature of education. I mean, you can look backwards all the way to McCarthyism in the 1950's for them changing what educators can and can't do/teach to combat Communism - laws which are are still on the books and restrain teachers about teaching certain aspects of that topic to this day.
As for abolishing the Department of Education, that's probably never going to happen. Even if it somehow does, something new will take it's place because there admittedly does need to be some type of governing body that ensures a certain quality of education in this country. The current one doesn't do that though and is something to consider at the very least reforming.
@KevinTheID Reagan and Thatcher started the whole process of winding back progressive gains right back to the new deal. The worldwide destruction of union power has seen worker's share of productivity gains drop from 63.5% in the 1960's to 51% nowadays. The recent Supreme Court decisions have revealed the right's "long game." I think a case could be made that it's more sinister than a lack of motivation.
Until parents wake up and support teachers NOT their political agenda, there will not be professionals willing to do the job. Totally understandable. Teachers need support not vilification.
Well said! We're too caught up in the politics of teaching now instead of what's best for educators and students. It's one of the main reasons why parenting has changed to such a drastic degree and teachers no longer feel supported at all.
Oh yeah, during COVID, the teacher's unions are the ones that closed down.Most of the schools private schools stayed open, not the Union.Teacyes, it will help me that BS that they're underpaid.Maybe certain areas up North.They get paid very very well
The unions definitely played a role in closing down schools during COVID but it was more as a result of government mandates as to why that really happened. Public schools are beholden to public funds which are given by state and federal agencies.
As for the other half of what you said, I'm not sure I follow. Teachers are criminally underpaid across the entire country and that's not up for debate. Sure, most get a living wage by the time they reach year 15 or so, but to recruit and retain quality educators, current wages will never attract new ones or keep existing ones.
Many teachers (notably one in Texas from just a couple of days ago) live in their cars because their salary doesn't afford them the ability to buy a home or live near the students they serve - much less pay off their student loans.
I'm a retired School Psychologist. For 30+ years, I've watched the public education system devolve into chaos. Schools, grades Preschool to 12, have become dangerous. When I was a child, we are participated in the BS of duck and cover for the possibility of an "air raid attack." That never happened (9/11 being the exception). Schools routinely conduct Active Shooter Drills, something I never thought I'd see, but this is real and scary. I think that public education will become something entirely different in the next 10 years or sooner. I teach private and group music lessons at a local music store that has contracted with 11 charter schools. The kids seem to be well adjusted, polite and most of them are willing to learn. Charter schools fund all kinds of wonderful activities for the children including music and horseback riding, among other things. Several of my students are homeschooled. I'm seeing opportunity here that will change the entire landscape of education if we simply go charter and get rid of these extremely crowded and dangerous school campuses. We could have millions of teachers working in charter and homeschooling programs where they have a caseload and not an unruly, violent classroom with 35 to 40 wild, hormone enraged adolescents. You simply can not have a campus with 4,000 kids who want to undermine this wonderful opportunity to become educated. They DON'T give a darned about learning anything the schools have to offer, so why are we beating our heads against the wall?
One last thing, read The Fourth Turning by Strauss and Howe, two researchers from Economics and Sociology. Or, watch any of a number of TH-cam videos explaining this fine piece of research. This has given me a perspective and view of life that ties it all together in explaining what the heck is going on right now.
I don't think that just using charter schools or homeschooling is a viable solution. The former has the potential for the same problems as public schools (multiple charters near me have closed because of incredibly poor management and discipline issues) and the latter can deprive students of needed social interaction if not handled very well by the parents or caseload teachers. I had so many kids reenter the public school system around 8th-9th grades because their parents couldn't handle their education anymore at home and it ruined the kids since they couldn't identify with anyone their age and they struggled with keeping up.
Now, that being said, as you pointed out and I have said ad nauseum as well - the school system has devolved into a chaotic and mentally scarring place for both students and educators. Teachers are leaving in droves because of how bad things have become and how little they are respected or treated like the educated professionals they are. It's also why parents are frequently choosing other options for their students too.
What we really need is fundamentally pervasive educational reform from the ground up. We literally need to detonate the system as we know it and start over, but that's simply not going to happen due to the strengths of administrators, politicians, textbook manufacturers, and standardized testing companies who block any meaningful effort at reform.
@@KevinTheID I hear ya loud and clear. I too wonder about the charter school approach as well, despite my advocacy for it at the present moment. I get the issue of social interaction and parent's ability to actually follow through with and handle the education of their children. Many, many parents are the products of a failed education system themselves, so they are often, undereducated. I'm just reaching for answers, even though I'm retired. I do really care about what is going on.
If you look at why public education was started in the first place with Horace Mann and the establishment of Common Schools to educate everyone for the workforce and the rising industrial revolution, we may want to look at our current progress with technology and re-vamp the whole thing to fit with the 21st Century. We are still trying to maintain early 20th century classroom decorum and procedures in the 21st century. This is an entirely different world right now.
You'd like our podcast where my cohost frequently rails against the old Horace Mann approaches!
There isn’t a teacher shortage. There’s a Road Warrior shortage.
Well there really is a shortage in the sense that not enough people are willing to work as teachers, but the thing all those who report on the story should be asking themselves is why? That would then lead to a much bigger story.
In a strict interpretation, yes, there is a shortage. However, the term shortage just implies there isn't enough supply to meet demand. Basic economics there.
However, there are plenty of teachers to fill the roles. There's no supply issue in that sense. The problem is that there is no motivation for them to be educators anymore due to how bad the profession has become.
We have a teacher’s shortage in the classroom!!
It's more of a teacher retention issue than just a simple "shortage" as I said in the video.
It is never the children. Even the disrespect by teachers. It is being disrespected then being told that it is because "You didn't build a relationship," and "Ok well sorry." I can handle the children, I can deal with the parents but when admin lacks the support and care, I get discouraged.
Yeah, the gaslighting is pretty off the chart these days for educators. We love being told that the issues are our own...when they clearly aren't.
All of the problems I had could have been easily solved by an administration that actually cared, supported me, and held students accountable for their own actions with meaningful repercussions.
Dont ignore the prospect that there are a subset of $hitty teachers (and nurses) out there, that dont help the cause.
Oh not at all, there are subpar educators out there. I actually remember reporting one teacher who was so verbally abusive to his students that I was astonished that he was still in the classroom.
Unfortunately, with most of the good and dedicated teachers leaving the profession, only the bad ones will remain and thus create an even worse situation for the students we leave behind.
2007 Plock vs the Ohio Department of Education.
I'm familiar with the ruling, yes. Was there something you were trying to say in regard to that court case?
Just wanted to know what you were making the comment about.
Actually, there is a teacher shortage. However, I get the intent behind your video and there is some truth to it. The shortage is not imaginary, though.
A "shortage" implies that they're aren't enough teachers - which strictly speaking is the case, so no, it's not imaginary. However, calling this situation a shortage greatly oversimplifies the reasons why no one want to remain or enter the profession.
The only shortage that exists in education are of teachers who want to be underpaid, disrespected, and treated as professional babysitters rather than the subject matter experts that they are. This is why there isn't a shortage in the traditional sense of the term...there's a retention and recruitment problem stemming from a hostile and toxic working environment.
The word shortage implies a different problem than what is there.
Teachers they're in the teachers Union.Have the best racket going except for the cops.They cry cry cry.They don't do s***I know the kids are disrespectful.Today so are their parents but they should do their job instead of just collecting a paycheck
I'm sorry you are so ill-informed. Teachers literally make more minute-by-minute decisions than neurosurgeons and work far harder than the majority of other professions on the planet. It's why we burn out at such alarming rates in comparisons to other careers as well.
Plus, not all teachers are in unions or even good unions for that matter so that argument doesn't make any sense.
I also don't see how asking for a livable wage, commensurate repercussions for student misbehaviors, restoration of control over our classrooms, rejection of draconian evaluation practices, and administrators/politicians supporting us rather than giving us nothing but ambivalence and apathy is "crying."
You are totally wrong.
How so?
No he is totally right
@@fremontpathfinder8463 I am in the classroom. Not buying what you are selling
@steveisaak4320 We aren't "selling" anything. We're stating how bad the public school system is right now and why teachers are leaving and not entering the profession.
If you disagree, then that's fine, but you need to offer evidence to the contrary.
I’m a 2nd year teacher after spending 10 years in the classroom as an instructional assistant. I’m leaving in December and I will not return to the classroom as a lead teacher again. The last day of school before leaving for winter break. I’m leaving notice to be nice but I’m handing in my resignation on Monday. It’s too much. Plus I’ve been in the classroom for some long, it’s time for me to move on and do something else.