Jack the Ripper: The Evidence for Guilt. Part 1
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In this episode Edward Stow examines the trail of guilt pointing to Charles Lechmere as being the man known to history as Jack the Ripper. He follows the first ten Red Flags that unmistakably point to this suspect as being responsible for the murder of Polly Nichols, in the early hours of the morning of 31st August 1888.
I really wish my mum could watch this, she watched, read every theory about Jack the ripper, we visited England in 1972 and she took me to every murder site, as a bonus, she bought me a Raleigh chopper at Hounslow warehouse which we had shipped back to home in Melbourne. I was the only kid in Melbourne with the coolest bike ever!
Wow. I didn't even have a Raleigh chopper back then, and I grew up right next to Hounslow.
I always thought the Rayleigh Chopper was a bit heavy and ugly back in the day. Probably because I didn't have one.
What a fantastic mom!
Wonderful things, memories, aren’t they? I lost my father but, he gave me the best time of my life. Is your mom still around? If not, she might have something much better than this - she might know for fact who Jack was and exactly how and why he did it! They say all will be revealed. Now, as through a glass, darkly ...but, then face-to-face. So, why not the answer to an age-old mystery?
"he gave me the best time of my life" that's hot.@@-Reagan
A day off work, and then a "House of Lechmere" video... PERFECT! 😜
Same ! This ia the most realistic theory ...just a normal everyday man that you'd never expect. I'm a qualified Criminologist and fully take on this theory 100%
Great summary and analysis. I was convinced of Lechmere's guilt after watching "The Missing Evidence"
I think the reason Ripperologists gloss over Lechmere is because they can't bring themselves to accept that the mystery is not really a mystery at all so what would they write about!
EXACTLY! Money loss is a lot of trolls (authors in disguise) problem, so debunk the theory aggresively and insultingly as possible. Only Lechmere provokes this reaction from those opposed to it.
I’m thinking the reason is a little sadder than facing a solved history. Ripperology has an unfortunate history of suspecting the mentally disabled, Jews and foreigners, both visiting and immigrants. The “Old Guard” holds that the most likely suspect is Kosminski, a man that checks off all the boxes despite the fact that there are zero facts against him. Now, Lechmere is a good ‘ol English boy who just happened to find a body. I have heard the phrase, “Poor Lechmere” a ridiculous amount of times. Most of the Old Guard will go to great lengths to not accept that anyone who finds a body is an automatic suspect. It is easy to see that after that enormously huge blind spot, they will automatically attack any other facts against him. They ignore the fact that his name is Lechmere and continue to call him by Cross. Cross is his stepfather’s name, as you know. They argue that he worked at Pickford’s under using his stepfather’s name even thought there are zero records that support that wild assumption. Even the evidence of 114 every day life documents will not convince them.
There is absolutely no way thr powers that be are going to officially name The Ripper,it has sadly turned into a Money making business
@@phillipaevans4874 Never knowing who JTR is the one thing everyone agrees on. Very few folks actually make money studying and researching these cases. The vast majority keep their regular jobs. The exciting thing for me is I’ve been on my JTR journey for forty years and Lechmere is the first suspect with evidence connecting him. (333 suspects)
@@TiaMargarita I have to say that I disagree, author's, museums, tours etc etc make alot of money, alot of it is due to the mystery of it all. Look at the James Maybrick book for example, I purchased it and believed its authenticity at the time. It turned out it was a complete fake but still made the author alot of money
Brilliant analysis and deductions!
I cannot see how anyone could point the finger at a more likely suspect. Have got part 2 ready to watch!
There are lots of films on this channel touching on different aspects! Enjoy!
Just discovered your channel. Currently binge watching . Love your no nonsense style, Ed.
I trust you meant 'no nonsense'!
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Sorry.
You and every one else who believes this is insane!!!!!
Absolutely insane!!!
No one would commit murder on there way to work regularly
What if the murder went wrong!!!
A fight brakes out, you get your face scratched, you get covered in blood etc etc, the list is endless
Are you going to walk home and make yourself good before going back to work !!!
Dream on
A job was very important in them days
Murder on the way home is a different story 😊
@@Urge38 he was built different.... i would say arguably the smartest human who set foot on earth but he was also a psycopath
@@Urge38 your argument about this being wrong is silly you really didn't think your post out did you,
I'm astoundingly amazed at how much research, dedication and study of this Ripper suspect was pursued. Also, if Lechmere had fled, then he definitely would have looked guilty. So he had to play like a nervous bystander. Makes perfect sense! Well done!
Thank you
What if he'd of just walked away into the shadows and disappeared?
@@rob5944 Exactly, this is just Nonsense from an absolute Twit.
Firstly, there is No evidence let alone Proof, that Cross lived at that address & so, no Proof that Cross is Lechmere. An inquest document online - Chas. Andrew Cross. The fact of the matter is - no killer, let alone a Knife killer, would approach a witness who has Seen him now, then walks away chatting with him & then makes himself Known to the Cops. Then, continues skulking around the streets in the early morning hours when Many people know he was on the scene of that victim & he is Known to More of the cops because he did go to the inquest. Even if Cross is actually Lechmere, who lived in Whitechapel his whole life & worked at Pickfords for over 20 years, then he is Well Known to loads of locals & work colleagues & as a carman, also business associates. A couple of Morons make a doc & fooltube videos putting about that - he continued walking the streets in the black early morning hours for Weeks & carried on approaching prostitutes In Front of people & did the killings with the same & much worse MO. LOL. Really??
All the jibber jabber about 'times' for 3 cops & 2 other men is boring as all hell Childish friggin Bunk, nobody will Ever get it sorted. 5 men have No Idea what time they were where. End of. Each one says a time, each newspaper states various times & Christer made up His own time to suit his stupidass 'theory' about a guy by the name of Charles A. Cross & Christer does Not Know his home address. Putting modern font on a page with 1888 newspaper headers above, is Not proof of Cross' home address. The professional hypnotist Stealthy Eddy Stow has made up His own 'times' to suit His mind numbing Gobshite & repeats it all over & over as his Brainwashing tactic. LOL.
There most certainly Were other males who came across other of the bodies.
Cross sure Did raise the alarm Straight Away, he did Not keep walking on down the road. It is very understandable considering the Times & the conditions for that area in 1888, that when he saw a woman who lay prone on the ground, his thoughts went to someone who had maybe been attacked & as there were lots of prostitutes who roamed around in the early morning hours, he was very well aware that would be the case & as they were known to Drink, his first thoughts did not turn to murder. If I was a male back then in Whitechapel, I sure as hell would Not have wanted to be the male to try & wake her up at 3.30 a.m., all by myself, at the very least, in whatever state, she could have just started screaming. He did Nothing wrong.
I do Not believe the Rubbish from Holmgren or Stow, both dopes who think they are smarter than all the police involved including Inspector Abberline from Scotland Yard who was brought in after the murder of Mary Ann Nichols, as he knew Whitechapel very well.
And BTW - in regards to Nichols, there were Two cuts to her throat plus 2 stabs to the vagina, several stabs & cuts to the abdomen causing the Bowels to Protrude through the abdomen. Now you are Informed of the basics, pleease don't carry on as if there would have been no blood on that friggin Knife, or anywhere else. In the black of night down that road with high buildings both sides, the killer would Not have Known about blood on his person, clothes or shoes. End of.
And FYI - Mary Ann had bruises on her face And on her hands, meaning, she put up a Fight.
And people are drinking the Kool aid no matter the lunacy of the dumb as dog doo ‘reasoning’ behind the blather. Jeez.
Tumblety is interesting, because he did flee while on trial after the final murder, and was often being monitored by police, whenever he visited London. There is also an interesting witness account regarding him, as well as the speculation that he had jewelry taken from one of the bodies.
Lechmere is a great suspect in terms of opportunity to commit the crimes, as well as his initial suspicious behaviour, but I'm not sure we know that he was a particularly unbalanced individual.
His background is very interesting. His upbringing in ‘Tiger Bay’, his mother’s bigamous marriage to a police constable several years her junior. She was a real fish out of water in the East End, having been brought up on a country estate in Herefordshire where her father was the butler of a member of the prestigious Clive family.
Don't spoil the other Red Flags!
The non directly case related, background issues will be in Part 3!
Yes please, even if you know, that's great for you but no spoilers, thanks!. You can do your own channel of course but here is Edward's place and we are just guests so we must be respectful guests
Very interesting.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 just delete the unintended spoiler 🙂. fascinating video , many thanks !
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Spoilers for the Jack The Ripper case?? Funny
Years ago I went thru a slew of books about the Ripper case, including Patricia Cornwells Case Solved. Thankfully I got most of them from the library but this one short video dispelled everything I read. Glad I stumbled on your channel good sir. You simplified & made sense, and a solid case, this case that intrigues true crime buffs to this day.
The 'red flags' bunk is absolute Nonsense. He provided Zero 'conclusive proof' that Lechmere is the ripper. He is less than useless at this game & can't even answer as to where Lechmere must have had the Bloody knife & what about bloody Hands & likely blood other places that he could not have known about when he approached Paul. What fn knife killer would Ever approach someone to Identify himself? LOL.
Thanks for the update Edward. Best regards to you and your camera-operator. #TheHouseOfLechmere
Fantastic! Love the way you proactively demonstrate your theories on location. Thank you, a real pleasure to watch.
Been ages since the last one, just love this information from you, looking forward to the next part, thank you.
Excellent presentation of part one. Brilliantly well researched. Thank you.
Firstly, there is No evidence let alone Proof, that Cross lived at that address & so, no Proof that Cross is Lechmere. An inquest document online - Chas. Andrew Cross. The fact of the matter is - no killer, let alone a Knife killer, would approach a witness who has Seen him now, then walks away chatting with him & then makes himself Known to the Cops. Then, continues skulking around the streets in the early morning hours when Many people know he was on the scene of that victim & he is Known to More of the cops because he did go to the inquest. Even if Cross is actually Lechmere, who lived in Whitechapel his whole life & worked at Pickfords for over 20 years, then he is Well Known to loads of locals & work colleagues & as a carman, also business associates. A couple of Morons make a doc & fooltube videos putting about that - he continued walking the streets in the black early morning hours for Weeks & carried on approaching prostitutes In Front of people & did the killings with the same & much worse MO. LOL. Really??
All the jibber jabber about 'times' for 3 cops & 2 other men is boring as all hell Childish friggin Bunk, nobody will Ever get it sorted. 5 men have No Idea what time they were where. End of. Each one says a time, each newspaper states various times & Christer made up His own time to suit his stupidass 'theory' about a guy by the name of Charles A. Cross & Christer does Not Know his home address. Putting modern font on a page with 1888 newspaper headers above, is Not proof of Cross' home address. The professional hypnotist Stealthy Eddy Stow has made up His own 'times' to suit His mind numbing Gobshite & repeats it all over & over as his Brainwashing tactic. LOL.
There most certainly Were other males who came across other of the bodies.
Cross sure Did raise the alarm Straight Away, he did Not keep walking on down the road. It is very understandable considering the Times & the conditions for that area in 1888, that when he saw a woman who lay prone on the ground, his thoughts went to someone who had maybe been attacked & as there were lots of prostitutes who roamed around in the early morning hours, he was very well aware that would be the case & as they were known to Drink, his first thoughts did not turn to murder. If I was a male back then in Whitechapel, I sure as hell would Not have wanted to be the male to try & wake her up at 3.30 a.m., all by myself, at the very least, in whatever state, she could have just started screaming. He did Nothing wrong.
I do Not believe the Rubbish from Holmgren or Stow, both dopes who think they are smarter than all the police involved including Inspector Abberline from Scotland Yard who was brought in after the murder of Mary Ann Nichols, as he knew Whitechapel very well.
And BTW - in regards to Nichols, there were Two cuts to her throat plus 2 stabs to the vagina, several stabs & cuts to the abdomen causing the Bowels to Protrude through the abdomen. Now you are Informed of the basics, pleease don't carry on as if there would have been no blood on that friggin Knife, or anywhere else. In the black of night down that road with high buildings both sides, the killer would Not have Known about blood on his person, clothes or shoes. End of.
And FYI - Mary Ann had bruises on her face And on her hands, meaning, she put up a Fight.
And people are drinking the Kool aid no matter the lunacy of the dumb as dog doo ‘reasoning’ behind the blather. Jeez.
It looks like you’re walking in a Muslim city. Having not been to London that’s not what I expected. Great video thanks for your hard work. You have me convinced of his guilt. Wish you good health
Can't wait for part 2!! I always look forward to your videos. Great work.
New Sub here from Nashville, Tn USA Thanks and please keep the vids coming sir. God Bless You and Keep you safe out there.
I have always believed it was Lechmere. I am far from an investigator. Now, I have followed your channel quite closely for several months and you have cemented by beliefs and that I had been right all along. Thanks, mate! Brilliant!
That pretty much echoes where I stand in this too. There's not another suspect that comes close, as far as I have seen.
@@jamescorlett5272 - Why would Paul return to the scene of a crime you say he not long ago committed? That makes no sense.
The 'red flags' bunk is absolute Nonsense. He provided Zero 'conclusive proof' that Lechmere is the ripper. He is less than useless at this game & can't even answer as to where Lechmere must have had the Bloody knife & what about bloody Hands & likely blood other places that he could not have known about when he approached Paul. What fn knife killer would Ever approach someone to Identify himself? LOL.
@@bethryan9077 I agree. There is very little evidence to link Lechmere to the crime apart from the fact that he was seen in the vicinity. I don't buy into the theory that he would have stayed and faced someone approaching either. if he really were guilty he had ample time to walk briskly away and disappear out of sight.
A great video, and the sound quality is so good. A definite progression in production. Can't wait for Parts 2 and 3.
Very nice. Looking forward to part 2, 5, 10 & more of this evidence series.
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So... He was late from work but he had time to rummage for a tarp? Which he would just bring to work with himself?
Sounds like BS to me.
Great work Edward… looking forward to the next part.
Brilliant as always - thanks so much Edward - can’t wait for the next one!
Of all the evidence, this certainly one of the most compelling. If you accept that this murder was committed by the Ripper, then he was necessarily interrupted by someone's approach. Nichols was found freshly killed by Paul. So the only alternative to the scenario presented here has the Ripper alarmed by Lechmere's footsteps, which Paul somehow does not hear, and fleeing without being seen or heard by anyone -including Lechmere- but not before covering up the wounds, delaying his escape. It's barely within the realm of the physically possible, let alone reasonable.
Not at all!
All that is required is that Jack was interrupted by hearing Lechmere. There was an author who stated that there were 20 escape paths along the road; so Jack could have escaped easily. Also, Lechmere was way too compliant, no history of mental issues, and it makes more sense for him to simply run or kill the witness.
Additionally, why would he wait until 20 minutes before his shift to kill? Why not just do it earlier? Why not wait till his day off? After all, he has the discipline to remain calm after committing murder, have a conversation with a stranger over the body, talk to the police etc. So he clearly had the discipline to wait.
Also the video misrepresents the data some. Most sources say 3:30 not 3:20. And he says he was late AFTER viewing the body. And again, why would he even kill just before work? It just makes no sense.
What makes the most sense is that Lechmere interrupted Jack, who heard him from far away and fled or hid in one of the nearby escape routes (a much more natural reaction than bluffing your way out immediately after committing murder).
he never covered up the wounds it was the first police officer on site that put her skirts back down and he didn't see the extent of the wounds due to the darkness
@@timlarson7696 I think there is good evidence that Lechmere was not just ahead of Paul walking down Bucks Row. ie the leaving home times plus Paul did not hear him ahead. This is important.
If Lechmere is the killer and he heard Paul approaching from a good distance (hobnail boots / low ambient noise etc) then he would have had time to escape. The only reason he would not have run for it is if Poly was still alive and he had to finish her off to avoid leaving a witness - but then Paul was too close for him to safely escape. Also, he likely thought the approaching footsteps were a policeman who would have blown his whistle very quickly. Staying and bluffing was his best option
@@svpmusic8140 Not true
@@svpmusic8140 That isn't true bud. Don't know where you get your facts from.
This was a great walk through! Excellent Video detailing Lechmere! You have made an excellent and compelling video! It was actually really exciting too seeing you dodge all those cars on the streets! Wow you walked around them like nothing, all the while guiding us verbally non-stop on the tour!! Thank you for this video!!!
Absolutely Fantastic, the Very Best (and most thought provoking) Jack the Ripper 30 minutes I have Ever seen. Great Work, don’t stop. Thanks for hard work. Take Care.😊
Awesome! I’ve only recently acquired an interest for this case and it’s so great to have content like yours to binge! Thank you!
This channel is so awesome. I was already convinced that CM was at the very least the murderer of PN and probably the Ripper. This channel makes the best case by far that CL was JTP. Well done!!!
The 'red flags' bunk is absolute Nonsense. He provided Zero 'conclusive proof' that Lechmere is the ripper. He is less than useless at this game & can't even answer as to where Lechmere must have had the Bloody knife & what about bloody Hands & likely blood other places that he could not have known about when he approached Paul. What fn knife killer would Ever approach someone to Identify himself? LOL.
@@bethryan9077 I agree. There is nothing to indicate that Lechmere committed the crime apart from his being in the vicinity. The whole case is based on conjecture and extrapolation. I don't buy into the theory that he would have stayed around and justified himself when he heard someone approaching. Forty yards of a lead was ample time to walk briskly away and disappear into the night.
Totally awesome presentation!!!! Wow!!!! Thank you for posting this!!!!
I love your channel. Your research and content are outstanding.
Outstanding work Ed, I'm watching it now 🎩🗡️
Thank You for your time and research, this is so fascinating to listen a story that was lost in time and century, once again Big THANKS
posiblemente Lechmere salio de su casa 3/20am o antes. pudo ir por whitechapell encontrar a poly hacer negociacion y luego ir detras de pc neil unos 5_7 min . probablemente el conocia fisicamente a los policias. y desde luego sus recorridos y tiempos . tubo la oportunidad. y lo consumo. un sicopata muy familiarizado con el vecindario y a °very cold blood killer°. waiting for the next episode.congratulations. from mexico.
Absolutely fascinating . In April we did a ‘ripper’ tour and I’ve always wondered about the ‘Charles Allen Cross ‘ evidence . I never thought his explanation made sense .
Thank you for the history and evidence you have examined 👏🏼
Too bad there are no other photos of him...what was he doing in Bucks Row for 10 min? It doesn't take that long to walk from one end to the other. Very intriguing
I'm late to your channel,however your channel and investigations intrigue me.Greetings from Perth,Australia mate.
Outstanding sir took the Ripper trail while stationed in the UK in 2015. Been a JTR interest since grade school in the 70’s. Never new about Lechmere, and believed it was Prince Eddie and the family’s doctor. Love this
So good I came back to watch this a second time. Excellent.
Superb video! very informative
Thorough & Meticulous .10 Red Flags & counting,....after such a long ,long time ,let's hope your hard work rewarded with recognition of a Final & Conclusive Result !
Thank you for this exploration. It is fascinating.
A very good presentation. Lechmere does provide 'superfluous detail'.
Just found your channel by way of Richard Jones' Ripper Tour channel. This is a brilliant analysis, sir.
Excellent video - Thank you.
Another great video, thanks.
If Lechmere didn’t want to touch the body of Polly Nicholls because he knew the head was virtually severed and that her abdomen was cut up - wouldn’t he have been covered in blood? The other witness would presumably have noticed this? I don’t think it was this Lechmere guy.
Not necessarily.
If she was strangled first, blood wouldn’t have been pumping. The draining, would have just started, after the wounds were made but slowly, at first. Lechmere was against moving the body. I think that as a slaughterer, he knew that moving the body could accelerate draining.
Your such a nice calm professional presenter. Nice to watch and listen, God bless you!
Thank you
great video i love true life crimes most of all locations where things have happened, this is better than google maps for sure . i have now subscribed Edward to your channel . keep them coming . Paul .
Thanks
This was quite elucidating! Very interesting and compelling. I’ve been meaning to watch this for awhile. I’m so glad I finally have. I would have sooner, if I had realized how important it was to really see the timing play out and all the points you make from sources and information you have shared here - you’re very well read, researched and thorough, Sir.
It’s so refreshing to see someone making a case like this after reading entire books built around such specious, superficially plausible but, far-fetched anecdotes as Walter Sickert’s painting of a bedroom titled “Jack the Ripper’s bedroom”. It’s almost a schoolboy prank (Jack the Ripper: Case Closed by Patricia Cornwall). This makes quick work of dispatching unlikely suspects and raises Lechmere to the top of the list of suspects like a 3 week late corpse to the surface of the Thames.
Thanks for your comments!
Firstly, there is Zero evidence that Cross was Charles Lechmere. Next - now that CROSS has Identified himself to a witness & a Cop, he attends the Inquest so More cops & More people can Identify the man who was first at the scene of the vicious Knife murder & yet he continues skulking around the streets in the early morning hours in the coming Weeks going after more women & doing the same & much worse. Really?
Thank you for this interesting video.
Can't wait for the next episode
Excellent work!! You've certainly done your homework... love your videos..It was definitely him!
Yet another fascinating and intriguing film from Edward Stow.
The evidence against Lechmere really is quite damning.
he is the ripper he has to be growing in confience from Martha Tabram tp M Kelly and then some more
@@jamescorlett5272 more Murders Rose Mylett , Alice McKenzie , Pinchin Street torso ,Frances Coles and possibly Emma Elizabeth Smith right at the start .
Brilliant stuff as always 😌
I must say that; > "they callously abandoned the body"< is not a fair remark. First of all, its most likely that the lights were out in most houses, and with people probably still asleep. And what if they brought it to the attention of the night-watchmen? What were they to do, except spend more time looking at the scene? No, I believe that they had to contact the police, thereby saving time. So, in my opinion, they did exactly the right thing to walk off to find a policeman. That wouldn't have been very difficult for them, as they were most likely very aware that policemen were on their beat, waking people for work. In fact, even if they couldn't immediately see one, they could most likely have heard them, knocking on the doors. In fact, thats exactly what Mitzen was doing, when Lechmere approached him.
Something worth considering might be the fact that Nichols wasn't Lechmere's first victim, and that he may have already been a practiced hand at murdering her likes under similar cirumstances. If so, then he may have already had the opportunities to have honed his skills to the point where he could kill and mutilate with a degree of relative expertise in a matter of minutes.
Yes watch the rest of the films on here!
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 I've been watching and rewatching these vids for quite a while now, and I consider this channel to be one of the more intelectually stimulating destination on all of TH-cam.
My comment regarding Lechmere's murderous capabilities was directed at any potential naysayers who might want to try and discredit Lechmere on the grounds that he wouldn't have had the time to kill and mutilate Nichols before being spotted by Paul. If lechmere was already a practiced hand at throat cutting, as I assume he must have been by this time, then dispatching Nichols shouldn't have presented that much a problem for Lechmere given that she was probably too drunk and tired to put up much of a fight.
It would be quite an interesting diversion to try and establish if there were any murders fitting Lechmere's m.o. committed around any of his other lodgings, and if so how far back could you place them?
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@@thehouseoflechmere9407 If that’s correct with a similar degree of probability as here, then that’s too extreme a coincidence to simply chalk it off as bad luck on Lechmere’s part, I reckon. Have you done any videos on that?
@@feliscorax Firstly, there is Zero evidence that Cross was Charles Lechmere. Next - now that Andrew CROSS has Identified himself to a witness & a Cop, he attends the Inquest so More cops & More people can Identify the man who was first at the scene of the vicious Knife murder & yet he continues skulking around the streets in the early morning hours in the coming Weeks going after more women & doing the same & much worse. Really?
Great job solving this Christer Holmgren.
Tip top work, thank you.
Great video, I did notice your shortness of breath, may want to get that checked out. Better safe than sorry as they say
Another great video, Ed! Is there another way to contact you? Email? Are you on other social media platforms?
Facebook
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Or there is also a House of Lechmere page on Facebook
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 have you ever thought about using Reddit or making a Twitter page? I feel they’re both better for presenting information that Facebook! Great channel here Ed.
Excellent as always 👍
Okay. A couple of weeks-ish ago, I posted after watching both the video on another channel (I forget which channel, maybe Jack the Ripper Tour?) about all the different streets available to JTR as escape routes away from Buck's Row, and then your response video abt how several of these streets in fact had obstacles not mentioned by the first video. I posted that it seemed like there were still several streets (quite a few) which cld have been used by JTR, especially given the darkness. I received several responses back, and the whole thing is just staying on my mind, and is very interesting.
I have watched now a couple of your other videos, the ones abt Liz Stride and a couple of others, and I like your channel and the way you lay things out. Its obvious you truly feel Charles Lechmere was JTR, but you do have a systematic way of looking at things, and I think that's a great way to solve cold cases, in general. Rule out this, rule out that, rule out the next thing, then the next, always being ready however to follow new information as it becomes available as a result of the systematic search.
I still think a systematic search of *every single street available to JTR at the time is needed, along with a test of all the dark hiding spots available within two minutes of calm (so as not to draw attention to himself) walking from the doorway of what is now a city train station, I think? Iow, back then, where cld JTR have calmly walked to hide within two minutes and then calmly walked away, keeping in mind the initial hiding spot may/may not have been directly connected to the eventual escape route used. If I lived in London, that is exactly what I wld be doing with my Saturday today lol, looking at historical pictures of the area and attempting to figure out differences today, and trying to actually make these walks, just as you do in your excellent videos. Its harder from Dallas lol, so I am very grateful to you for all your meticulous research and for your wonderful channel.
I am not a "Ripperologist" in any way, just a casual student of the case. I did go on a "Jack the Ripper" tour during a trip to London, but that was many years ago. I know how much Dallas has changed since my childhood, but I also know there are quite a few spots that have hardly changed at all, and that was my impression from the JTR tour (27 years ago now), some spots unrecognizable today and some almost unchanged.
I have a week starting now where I will be able to watch all your videos where you present the evidence you have so far found for Charles Lechmere being JTR. I will temporarily set aside my questions about the streets being available and will watch these videos. I noticed the similarity in handwriting in one of Liz Stride videos and it made me look again at the fact that I have not actually looked closely at the evidence for Charles Lechmere being JTR, other than seeing several of your videos and one from another channel a while back (this video was not convinced but said Lechmere shld be added to the list of suspects).
Before I watch, my main challenges to Charles Lechmere being JTR are (besides the number of streets still being available as escape routes):
1. How cold was Polly Nichols' body actually? Wld a layperson be able to tell (so how much weight to give to what the second man said abt feeling her move slightly), what did the police say when they
first found her, etc? Did the police agree she was very newly dead?
2. Lechmere was the equivalent of a delivery truck driver, if I understand this correctly. So he was not headed into an office, and it might have been okay for him to show up for work in a somewhat messy state. But if you are going to kill someone using a knife at all, you know there is a possibility of blood being anywhere/everywhere. I think Polly was killed primarily via strangulation, but still a knife was used (if I remember correctly)? It just seems unlikely someone wld do this, with a knife in any capacity, on their way to work. But stranger things have happened. This is one of the weaker objections, I think.
3. What happened to Charles Lechmere during the rest of his life? Did people just regularly go missing in his neighborhood lol until he was very old and feeble?
4. Why did the police at the time not consider Lechmere, as the person who found the body, a strong suspect? My thought, before watching your videos, is that the police, knowing the area very well, realized how easy it wld have been for the killer to simply calmly walk/melt away into the darkness. So they took only a cursory look at Lechmere and cleared him, perhaps wrongly, but again, perhaps rightly (rightly if the police were correct in their assessment of how easily the true killer cld have escaped).
5. My main objection (again except for the streets): Didn't a police official write in the margins of a report or log that the police knew the identity of JTR and that this person had been confined to an insane asylum? I am thinking there must be objections/debunkings to this one, which I am about to discover lol, or you wld not be thinking Lechmere is the one.
Okay. Putting aside my streets objection and commencing my exploration of Charles Lechmere as Jack the Ripper -- Now!!
Too many questions!
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 No such thing lol :D Besides, the first question has already been answered by your great videos (yes, Polly was very newly deceased, and this was determined by a medical professional). Loving your channel!
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I've probably effectively answered all of them somewhere... I even mentioned the writing in the margin.in my last film - but I will gonthrough it in detail at some point.
Well, I completed my study of Lechmere as JTR last week, and posted my thoughts, but, Boomer that I am, I also included the names of other places on the web I used as resources (in addition to this excellent channel), and it seems the system deleted my comment. I don't think it was The House of Lechmere who deleted my comment, because there are plenty of comments with robust challenges that you leave up, which is one reason I consider you to be legitimately in search of the truth and not merely promoting Lechmere as JTR, no matter what, in an echo chamber-like manner. And, may I say, sadly, as an American, I can now spot an echo chamber a mile off (and your wonderful channel is most decidely not one, even while being very clear that you feel the evidence most strongly supports Lechmere as JTR). Now back to the 1880's, back to the streets of Victorian England, and back to whatever facts we are able to discern from our vantage point of 2024.
Regarding Lechmere as JTR, here are my thoughts, for whatever they may be worth:
1. I still think there are just too many easy dark escape routes for JTR to have melted into when he heard an innocent Lechmere's workboots approaching, first covering Polly's wounds to buy him extra escape time before any wounds were discovered and alarms were sounded. In one of your videos, you make mention several times of the blind "dead" space around the school. It would have been simple for a non-Lechmere JTR to hear Lechmere's workboots approaching, cover the wounds, and simply melt away by calmly and quietly walking into either the dark blind spot by the school or any of several other streets available. Safely out of sight, JTR simply either hides in alcoves, etc, in the darkness or continues calmly walking and, within minutes, can be streets away from the scene. You did a video pointing out the several existing obstacles in the form of watchmen and/or policemen for several of the available stteets, but there are still several other streets available and, as long as this is so, Lechmere simply cannot be identified as the only possible murderer of Polly Nichols. Its just too easy for a non-Lechmere JTR to have simply calmly melted away into the darkness upon hearing Lechmere's approach. It is possible the police likewise thought it wld be very easy for the murderer to melt away in the darkness, and this might be why they gave not much attention to Lechmere even after realizing it was Lechmere who first was seen with the body.
As a side note, as a Texan, I have several pairs of cowboy boots with very hard, loud soles and heels. It is completely possible, I tried it as an experiment, to walk *either loudly or softly in these boots, as desired, on both concrete and the cobblestones we have in the "historic" district of my town. I could walk calmly yet swiftly yet quietly across both concrete and cobblestones in my heavy cowboy boots. It was impossible, however, to walk quietly on gravel. There was a crunch no matter how quiet I tried to be. On dirt, I could walk in almost complete silence. With what material was Buck's Row and the surrounding streets paved in 1888? If it was not gravel, I think it might have been very possible for a non-Lechmere JTR to walk calmly, swiftly, and quietly to a dark hiding spot, especially to the wide dark "blind" area around the school, upon hearing the approach of Lechmere, and from there, to calmy, swiftly, and quietly, simply walk away and be gone from the area within minutes. This is my 2nd biggest challenge to the Lechmere as JTR theory, I will save my biggest challenge for last.
2. Lechmere could have easily said (paraphrasing) "you are wanted, there is a dead woman" to Mizen, Mizen could have taken that to mean he was wanted (by another policeman), because Mizen knew there wld be another policeman or two in that area. So Mizen could have then said later that Lechmere said "you are wanted by another policeman, there is a dead woman" without attaching importance to or even really thinking about whether or not Lechmere actually said anything about another policeman. Or Lechmere, by saying "you are wanted" could have just been saying "you are wanted (because) there is a dead woman" without Lechmere thinking anything about another policeman. Mizen might have, all by himself, inferred and added the "by another policeman" part, not attaching any particular importance to his embellishment (bec in Mizen's mind, of course other policemen there wld be needing help) and so Mizen added the in-Mizen's-mind inference without thinking whether or not Lechmere actually said anything at all about another policeman. All/any of this could have happened without intended deceit on anyone's part. And here we are in 2024 trying to parse exact words, and it may just be a lost cause.
3. Lechmere was from a family of the minor nobility, if I understand this correctly. As such, he may have been trained since birth to keep the Lechmere name out of scandal. So he gave the name Cross with the sad incident involving running over the child, and he again gave the name Cross during a murder inquest. He gave police his correct home and work address, he was not trying to evade identification. He may have simply been trying to keep the name Lechmere out of it.
4. We have no idea if he got along with his mother and daughter, or if their house was the last place he would want to be on his one night off for the week. So it may/may not be important that a murder happened close to his mother's house.
5. Knowing the police are going to check out the history of anywhere body parts show up, why would Lechmere ever pick a place close to his former home to leave body parts?
6. There is nothing besides geography linking Lechmere to any of the other murders. In fact, an investigator known for making use of forensic geographic profiling identified another area, other than the area between Lechmere's work and home(s), as being the most likely area JTR lived and worked.
7. Last and biggest challenge to Lechmere as JTR: The police at the time, as stated in marginalia and in interviews given later, were looking primarily for a butcher who worked on butcher's row. I think very high importance shld be given to what the actual police investigating these murders thought. They knew the area and the population, much better than we ever will in 2024. They knew the intangibles. They were looking for a butcher on butcher's row and felt it was probable their man was sent to an insane asylum. We should listen to them.
My top suspects are (in order):
Jacob Levy - lived/worked also close to the murders, was a butcher who worked on butcher's row and was confined to an insane asylum, after which the JTR murders stopped.
Whoever the police meant when they were talking about Kosminski/Kaminsky/Nathan/etc -- NOT Aaron Kosminski (too many non-matching things with him). But whoever the police were actually talking about.
Last name Bury - Really only because he killed his wife the same way JTR did (strangulation followed by abdominal mutilation such that his wife's intestines were hanging out when she was found, non-JTR-style, in a chest). However, Bury went around saying/bragging he was JTR, so he may have killed his wife purposely like JTR did, without actually being JTR.
Lechmere - since Lechmere was found by a very newly deceased Polly Nichols, he must be included in the top list of suspects. Just wish there was more to go on. It seems like jumping from A to J, without hitting any letters in between, to simply proclaim the case on Lechmere is closed. In America anyway, being found by Polly Nichols *might be enough to get a warrant signed to do a further search. But that's about it. No way an arrest warrant would be signed. It was pretty surprising to see that a Queen's prosecutor or lawyer said he thought a prosecution could brought against Lechmere for the JTR murders. *Maybe it wld be possible to get sign-off on a search warrant. But that's about it right now, absent more evidence.
Well, those are my thoughts. Thank you for your channel, I will continue to drop everything when you put up something new. And may you shine the torch of truth and bring JTR out of the darkness.
Good video...fresh take om following evidence
AWESOME work Edward ill.be doing these steps tommorrow after i arrive from.Canada. After watching your documentarys im.a True Believer it makes sooo much sense . Jack was Lechmere. BRILLIANT MATE. Cheers 🍺🍺
H8 I'm new to your channel and am very impressed with your research, I have a question.. Would the Ripper not have been covered in blood directly following the murder and if so would these witnesses not have noticed and apprehended him?
Most victims were strangled first so there was no arterial spouting of blood, and in any case he worked for a company that delivered a lot of raw meat so he had a good excuse.
Obvious blood on his hands or clothes would be a problem for any suspect
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Oh I see, I understand now thank you
Great video!
Wow thankyou for sharing this Ed.In my mind after following warching all your videos on Lechmeere I am 100% positive he is Jack The Ripper.
Great Eddy brilliant job
Hi Edward,
It's interesting to note that at 28:54 of the video, you have included an artists illustration of the crime scene on Bucks row. It appears to show a street lamp across the road from the murder site. Given the time of the murder at approximately 03.35, I would imagine that this may have been lit? therefore, It can be surmised that there would have been some illumination of the body.
If Charles Lechmere had covered up the mutilations, how did Robert Paul fail to see the blood on the pavement running from the victims throat wound? The blood would have been running towards the direction of the street lamp. This is another clue that, the blood had not run from the wound in any significant amount when Robert Paul was inspecting the body, which goes to show how fresh this murder was when he arrived Keep up the good work.
Also worth noting that if the killer WASNT Lechmere he would have had to lure polly Nichols there, kill her, mutilate her AND make good his escape in the tiny amount of time since the last police patrol went round and Charles Lechmere turning into Bucks Row - what are the chances? Also how many other people beside Lechmere and the beat officers were within that surrounding area in the same 10 min time frame. It’s 100% Lechmere. It would just be the perfect murder if it WASNT Lechmere and there is no such thing.
CL would have been covered in blood …?
Sorta hard to hide that amount of blood
@@beastraban9282 no he wouldn’t be as there would be no arterial spray due to polly already being dead (no blood flowing through arteries) when he cut her.
@@jonstevens2899 have you ever cut a dead deer up ?
@@beastraban9282 Paul didn`t get any blood on him when he touched Nichols` chest.
@@user-qy2yw5ed3d Now you're contradicting yourself. LOL. According to You, the throat cut produced No blood, so why the f would there have been blood on her chest? Doh.
Love your work Edward, and I can thank the “lost Evidence” documentary for finding your excellent work, and I’ve watched every video on the Ripper and the Torso Murders a couple of times each. I would if selected on a Jury convict Lechmere, But…. And this is a pretty big But, where/how did he get Polly in a deserted lane, with just enough time to spare between the return of the beat Policeman and the possibility of any other random showing up to catch him in the act?
You show in this episode he had at least 7-8 minutes alone with the victim. Where did she come from? Did he possibly already know her and set a time to meet her? Or, on the other end of the time spectrum that he could have left home, let’s say at 3am instead of 3:30am, where could he have met her and enticed her to this location? I believe he had “cased” this street, worked out the routine of the beat cop, who as you’ve mentioned also acted as an alarm clock to wake people up so therefore couldn’t be “random”. His route or beat took him about 25 minutes to complete did it not, which would leave about 18-20 minutes that he wasn’t in Bucks Row.
Isn’t Mary Anne “Polly” Nicholls the one you mentioned his daughter was named after? Could he have been seeing her before work and set it up like that?
Thank you for your work, I am convinced Lechmere is the Ripper, I would just like a decent explanation of how he could meet a victim, possibly 5-10 minutes away from the crime scene, then get them to the crime scene and commit the murder.
Unless he had been up all night, which doesn’t make sense either.
I think he met her randomly on Whitechapel Road. It would take 5 minutes to meet and for her to take him to her chosen location - Bucks Row and a couple of minutes for him to kill and mutilate. That's all.
The daughter was Mary Jane - the same as Mary Jane Kelly
You’re right, Lechmere is the most viable suspect.
You have me just about convinced. I think the neck wound did it for me.
Goodness, England has changed. Apart from the presenter there was not one other anglo-saxon person walking those streets.
I must say Lechmere is the most likely suspect in my mind. Thank you for your videos. You do a great job covering everything. I think Ive seen all of them or at least most of them. Doing a rewatch right now.
Before I heard of Lechmere I was thinking it wouuld have been the homeless poet Francis Thompson. Have you done any video comparing Lechmere with other good suspects (like Thompson) and pointing out the diffrences that make Lechmere the only real suspect standing? I think that would be interresting. Maybe do a series of them because it would be far too long for one video?
I have to confess I don't think Thompson is a good suspect. The only link is that he lived briefly in Providence Row but it is likely this was not in 1888.
What I’m most interested in is what could have happened to lechmere in his childhood to lead to him doing these things? Or what kind of brain chemistry has to go wrong leading to someone thinking like that? The psychology of people like him is what’s most interesting to me
I’m interested too though I fear that we will never know what he was like growing up. Serial killers who mutilate bodies often start out killing and mutilating animals. Lechmere possibly did the same.
We know his mother was domineering, perhaps that triggered his need for extreme control
Hints of dominant mother… absence of real father.. moving around a lot.. few step fathers all divorced from his mom which adds more to concept of broken home
@@TiaMargarita Living on the Clive Estate, I doubt he and his mother were given free room and board. They both must have had duties. I wonder if his duties involved assisting in the butchering of animals to help prepare them for the cook.
@@TiaMargarita didn't the mother own a "cats meat" factory too? And kept horses? That i assume once they were too old or ill to work anymore they would have been killed and used as meat for the cats. So im assuming he witnessed horses perhaps having their throats cut because i doubt they'd have had many vets in those days never mind with injections to humanely put them down. That would have been extremely traumatic especialy if you'd grown up with those particular horses all your young life & children are normaly more attached to animals.
And it doesn't sound as if his mother was exactly the kind that would have the children out of the way 1st before slaughtering them or try to shield them from that trauma. She sounded like a domineering, callous, scolding, "you'll never amount to anything" type.
Perhaps he even witnessed her slit their throats herself & why he went for the certain type that reninded him of her to get revenge somehow.
Or it may even have been not so much that the horse slaughtering traumatised him, maybe it excited him in a sick way. Sexualy even, if it was happening just as he was reaching puberty and it all got mixed up with the mother, sex and killing. You'd probably have to have a certain type of brain or brain chemistry balance & then the right mix of psychological disturbance to create a serial murdering psychopath.
In another videos' comments section I've seen you mention that you think Lechmere might have picked Polly on Whitechapel Road? If so, how does that fit into the timeline/route?
It is off his quickest route by a matter of a couple of minutes. That is easily accommodated timewise!
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Thank you! . If I could be so bold, I'd love a video covering any details on his life, homes and family prior to 1888, especially anything regarding his mother's meat business (I gather you think that was his "murder room" pre and post 1888?). I realise the details are probably scant! Thank you for your videos- you're the only one on TH-cam probing Lechmere in such fine detail!
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Yes probably I will in the future
I retired from the US federal government where we had an expression "If you screw up, you move up". For decades I had assumed Lechmere was investigated and cleared' why he never appeared on the "most likely suspects" (consisting of loonies and born trouble-makers and little else). Never would I think incompetence would completely permeate the ranks.
All those books and conspiracy theories generated by The Presumption of Competence.
Well done singling out THE person of actual interest imo.
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This is a very convincing series. I watched a new Documentary on the Times Square Torso killer and two quotes from it are"Most of the time I wasn't out there looking for something" "I'd be on my way to work, and they just happened to be there" interesting as some doubters think someone would never commit these crimes going to work.
Indeed!
i notice Emma Elizabeth Smith was attacked before he moved to Doveton St but Martha Tabram was after, Well done on the video btw good audio good effort liked it very much can't wait for Pt2
Unquestionably, by a massive margin, the most serious of all suspects. I always knew he could not be that young. There is so much more: Had Lechmere been confronted to numerous witnesses in a pub of an Englishman "with weak eyes" horsing around with Liz Strider, they would have recognized him immediately. The "weak eyes" are noted, yet again, on a suspect walking along with another victim. Had pictures of Lechmere been taken and shown to other witnesses, or just him summoned to a line up, all of them would have instantly made him. One of the "weak eyes" witness clearly said "I would recognize him anywhere".
@@jamescorlett5272 I think he did fear him... Lechmere also, apparently, followed him all the way to his place of work, and committed the second murder close by, which nearly succeeded in incriminating Paul... I still reel that, with a pub full of witnesses to a man acting strangely with Liz Stride, these patrons even going as far as to taunt the man about it (quite literally saying: "Watch out! It's the Ripper!!!"), four murders was not enough to use these witnesses to the full... I just cannot believe that such a rich source of multiple witnesses was not ruthlessly used to parse out every single person connected with the case, or even hired with paid leave just to stalk the streets until they spotted him... When at least one witness says "I would recognize him anywhere", and he was probably one of several in the pub that could, that is nothing short of a gold mine compared to having zero clues. The only downside was that this took place many hours before the murder, about 4-5 pm, but it still was the SAME day, and these witnesses identified Liz Stride's body from her clothes and a pinned flower, even going into the detail of how the bridge of the top of her nose, on the corpse, seemed curiously flattened, which is completely accurate when you look at her pictures alive compared to the very different mortuary pictures of the same person dead. This proves they were completely reliable witnesses, and yet they remained unused. Unlike Lechmere, who was seen after the murder, that man was seen with Liz Stride before the murder, and should have been targeted. If it really was Lechmere both times, the case would have been solved in minutes...
The fist time I heard this was just a personal theory from the channel thoughty2 and it seemed to just fall into place, you are amazing for doing all of this research to back up what was obviously your logical thought aswell, I truly believe you are right, I really do 🏆🥇🙏🇦🇺💞.
Firstly, there is Zero evidence that Cross was Charles Lechmere. Next - now that Andrew CROSS has Identified himself to a witness & a Cop, he attends the Inquest so More cops & More people can Identify the man who was first at the scene of the vicious Knife murder & yet he continues skulking around the streets in the early morning hours in the coming Weeks going after more women & doing the same & much worse. Really?
I would say the two times we know as being certain are Paul's exactly 3:45 when he entered Bucks Row and Llwellyn knocked up at 3:55. The later proves that the Police found the body after 3:45 and more towards 3:50. Thain knocked Llwellyn up at 3:55 a two minute walk (not run) from the scene. This puts him with Niel around 3:53/2. Niel says he sent Thain straight for the doctor. He didn't hang around for 7 minutes with Niel if it was 3:45. If Niel signalled Thain it puts Thain with Niel about 3:51. This would be correct for Paul entering at 3:45. It's more than probable Llwellyn arrived at the scene more towards 4:05. Both he and the police just rounded their timings up. To around 4 and 3:45. Lechmere also said he left home at 3:30 vecause the doctor said 30 min death time from around 4 ie 3:30 death time. He was showing that he couldn't be the killer as he was at home. However if we use the probable time of 4:05 onwards it places Lechmere in Bucks Row at the time of the murder.
I believe too that at sometime whilst Llwellyn and the 3 police officers were together the question of the discovery time was asked and 3:45 ish was said. The reason why it's used by all 3 officers. Bobbies today still compare pocket book notes on timings.
Love the on the scene footage
Great Video, wonder if a rumour or legend in Paul's descendants about the murder has come down in their family history.
Perhaps a member of the Lechmere family might choose to comment? 😉😉😉
I've spoken to a member of Paul's family and nothing was passed down to them as far as we know. Mind you it's something like 130 odd year ago.
@@susanclapp1721 Still it’s good to know.
@@susanclapp1721 Hi Susan, just out of curiosity, do they happen to have a picture of him? I know he had quite a few children too so even a picture of them? I’m quite suspicious of Robert Paul and would be great to see what he looked like and if he matched any witness descriptions.
@@susanclapp1721 Thanks, always been interested in this subject
Well done Edward. How anyone can doubt Lechmeres guilt I don't know
@Floyd1504 There were murders committed after the canonical 5 which could have been lechmere.
@Floyd1504 Yes he is unnerving. There was about 4 murders after which could well be connected. Also the Thames torso murders where one torso was dumped by where lechmere lived when he was young under a railway arch
@Floyd1504 Couldn't agree more Floyd
@Floyd1504 He seems very confident with himself. It was taken in 1920 I think
It's not a done deal ....... the time approximately from 3.20 the time PC Neil cleared Bucks Row on his previous circuit to 3.35 2 minutes before Lechmere said to arrive at the murder scene ,.That is 15 minutes unnacounted for enough time to pick Polly up from street walk to murder scene an commit the crime .
Edward, how might I get in touch with you? Do you have a website or an email address?
This is brilliant 🍀🇬🇧👍
He stressed he was in the middle of the street distancing himself from the body. That is suspicious.
I ALWAYS WONDERED why he was never investigated. Even before seeing the documentary ... How could they not investigate the person who was found with the body!
Incompetence
i am new to you're channel. have you done a bio on Lechmere? i would live that
Not yet!
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 someday??
Well done How could Jack the Ripper disembowell his victims in the dark without a candle or torch ?just a thought & why didn’t Paul hear Mary scream if it was a fresh murder ?
It seems none of the victims screamed and were strangled first
BLOODY BRILLIANT, because, as we all know, THIS slaughter of poor Polly, is where we meet Jack, and nobody, at least nobody with influence... saw it for what it was, although any detective at the Met now would know in an instant, here's our guy
You use unnecessary comas. , , , , ,
We know nothing of the sort. Even Susan Clapp acknowledges that.
@@philipskalla4312 I think that Paul lost track of the time completely, because he returned at pace back to his abode, whereupon he examined and cleansed himself of blood.
I also think he and Lechmere spotted each other earlier than stated, and before Pauls second arrival at the murder scene; but because of the dark were unable to be certain who it was they each saw. At some point, Lechmere saw Paul rushing back home, and maybe crossing the road ahead. Paul may have had a glimpse of Lechmere, as he looked about when quickly crossing the road. Lechmere's assertion that he didn't see anyone before Paul arrived at the murder scene, may have been made under police instruction, or more probably, from a wish to distance himself from the events. On the other hand, Paul absolutely had to state that he didn't see anyone else, to keep up the pretence that he only made one journey.
@@philipskalla4312 He'd done enough and spent enough time at Dorset St, to fulfil his objective. The chance of him being seen there again, would have been high, as people were waking and rising for work. However, there is much speculation that he took the key to Number 13, which wasn't found, and that he may have intended to return.
At Hanbury St, the toilets were outside and at the rear of the property, and again the risk of making another visit placed him in jeopardy of being discovered.
Berner St had a club next door to where the body was found, which was in full swing, and subject to people coming and leaving at any time. Again, a huge risk.
At Mitre Square, the police patrolled frequently, and given the number of witness statements, the road appears to be a popular meeting spot, or cut through into Whitechapel proper. Yet another dangerous proposition.
Bucks Row, out of all these locations, was the quietest and least well lit (aside from Hanbury St), and afforded less chance of him being seen.
@@philipskalla4312 Lechmere never reported the sound of anyone walking or running in the opposite direction from which he approached the body. Surely, he would have heard something, or the police would have who were on the beat further ahead?
Great video. The theory always made sense to me that Charles was trying to evade the scene right when Robert Paul came up. Also the reason why Paul never seen or heard Charles on the street because he was killing the Polly 👍
The 'red flags' bunk is absolute Nonsense. He provided Zero 'conclusive proof' that Lechmere is the ripper. He is less than useless at this game & can't even answer as to where Lechmere must have had the Bloody knife & what about bloody Hands & likely blood other places that he could not have known about when he approached Paul. What fn knife killer would Ever approach someone to Identify himself? LOL.
If as Cross states in the inquest that he was late to work and if as you say it's a 25-minute walk from his house to his place of work. And you timed the walk as roughly 8 minutes from Lechmere’s home to the murder site in Bucks Row.
Let's do a little math. Let's say Lechmere leaving home was running 15 minutes late, 25 minutes walk to work. We’re talking 40 minutes late by the time he arrives at the door of Pickfords That’s not counting another 8 minutes over the body of Polly. 48 minutes, nearly an hour late.
I guess English bosses are much more forgiving. Here in the USA if you're late 15 minutes you will get a talking to heck 30-40 minutes (without a good reason) you might be told to go home for the day or even fired! Assuming it was the same back then, maybe even more so since you're a delivery driver and goods are expected to be on time to stores in time for business hours.
No, I don’t see how Lechmere was running late. He was hunting. And most likely lying to his family as to his actual expected time to work.
Its a shame that the old Roebuck pub on the south east corner of Bucks Row/Brady Street, was demolished (not that long ago too).
I believe that the building on the south west corner of Bucks Row/Vallance Road is the same building that existed in 1888, and obviously the old school is still standing, but from pictures I've seen, the Roebuck pub was demolished somewhere in the 1990's or thereabouts.
The view down Bucks Row, looking east towards Brady Street (23:00) shows how far Brady Street actually is, I've walked down Durward Street (Bucks Row) several times and it didn't seem as long to me.
Question for Ed. At around 27:57 when talking about red flag 7 (Lechmere refusing to prop up Nichols) you say he gave at the inquest a "very elaborate, over-elaborate, description" of touching the body. Are you saying that he was protesting too much, that he didn't need to give all that detail?
Yes. If you read other accounts of a body being found - certainly with the other Whitechapel Murders - you don't get anything like this degree of detail, which is suggestive that he was keen to illustrate that he didn't know what he had 'found'.
it all falls apart when you find out he lived till 1920, serial killers dont just stop killing, they are stopped
Except it's well known now that plenty of serial killers do stop such as GSK and BTK.
Thank you sir 👌 👏
EXCELLENT !
Very interesting