Can You Beat Gran Turismo 4 With Only Used Cars? | DustinEden
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- Gran Turismo 4 offers a vast variety of cars, many of which appear on the numerous used car dealerships. But how far in the game can you get using only these cars?
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EDIT: I was informed the used car dealer made its debut in the first two GT games! I played the 2nd one only shortly so it slipped my mind, whoops! 😅
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I was in the 3rd one as well
@@boostedmonster6363 It wasn't in the third game
In the first 2 gt the used dealers were in the dealers themselves so Honda had one so did Mazda and so on
Good i dont have to point it out now. But rly. Check before you upload. Makes you look like a ........ Good you linked you patreon here though.
Try to beat the game with only prize cars (no used cars or new cars)
NOTE: The historic dealer can spawn the Mercury Cougar, which is from 1967, so you can do the world classics cup in that. The sports truck sadly can't be completed with used cars only. Sadge
There's also the 1970 Toyota Celica and the Mazda 110S as well, though they won't be as effective as the Cougar in a straight line.
Technically speaking all cars from that era will be used, even when bought new from the in-game ship. I mean they're pre 70s cats 🤭
What id like from those dealers on specific days, there are lots of cars with only 4kms on the odometer..or special cars with blacked out paint...
He could of just used the old skyline he won. Thats used.
@@r10101 The Celica or 110S will have the Cougar in the high end, The Cougar has insane low end power and torque
NOTE: The used car dealers first apparition was in the very first GranTurismo, it also was in GT2
Oh I must have completely missed that, thanks for clearing that up! 😅Only played GT2 once so I guess it slipped my mind
@@DustinEdenYT it's easy to miss if you only buy non-japanese cars
Lol I was about to comment that, tbe first GT I played was the 2
Yeah, I was gonna say, I grew up playing gt3-a spec and it had it
@@minignoux4566 That's right aren't the used cars actually inside the dealership menus. from memory
"Went into that championship with more money than I came out with" Real Life Simulator
The Real Life Simulator ™️
I feel like a kid again everytime I see the gt4 menus such a timeless true work of art
I want a PS1 port of GT4.
@AT
There are some Guys that Remake GT4 in 1080 P for PC looks great. Almost looks like GT 5.
Imo, it's a clusterfuck. Cars and races thrown around all over the place. GT3 had best menu, imo. But on the other hand, I like simple menus.
/DBB
@@danielbecker-birkner3572
Even the Menus of GT 4 and GT 5 were better. Gran Turismo 7 Is Super confuseing.
As timeless as it is theres too much going on in the sim mode menu. I can't really comlain about it much but I was still finding stuff over two years of playing. GT4 was great. GT3 is my favorite but the lack of content (it was an early PS2 game first started on the PS1 so I really can't complain, GT4s content makes up for it.
It just feels like getting back into my childhood. Except that as a child I never managed to complete more than 30% of the game. But still, it's really nice to watch this kind of videos. Thanks Eden !
@Seraph Five
Even as a 18 year old in 2004 i never managed to Complete more then 80 % of GT 4 Some Races are incredibly Hard.
@@sheldoncooper8199 I got to 98% on Gt3 and 88% on gt4, I just got bored
@@k9burnouts544
Really ? Wow i found the Zonda Race Car Race in Rome to be unbeatable for my Skill Level even Today i wouldnt be able and i got better in GT since 2008.
Still from the Car selection GT 4 is my favorite.
@@sheldoncooper8199 dude I was still on ps2 in 2014 and 15, I just was like in love with the ps2 when I was a kid, That Zonda race was probably the only race and the prototype cars sucked
@@k9burnouts544
Oh Yeah. The ONLY Prototype Car that I LOVE in every Gran Truismo its the Nissan G-TR Prototype i always buy it in every Gran Turismo that Thing is A BEAST
Yeah i love the PS 2 but only the Fat One
Devil May Cry 3 Onimusha 2 and Metal Gear Solid 3 are my Favorite PS 2 Games. Oh and GTA San Andreas.
This was fun. I tried this once and managed to beat the supercar races with a mitsubishi 3000gt. If you tweak the gear ratios it can comfortably get to 400kph when fully tuned, as can most of the Japanese heavy hitters. I reckon you should try again sometime. I'd be here for that
yep, i was able to do it with a rx-7 fd
yeah, i beat the supercar series and the world championship on an almost fully tuned N1 R32 GTR, worst part is that it was almost easy lol
Same thing in GT3. Also GT-Rs are pretty fast
GT3 made me fall in love with the 3000GT and was a car that I used more than anything else. And was my main car in GT4 as well with around 1000hp.
Yeah didn't certain cars have an expensive upgrade option that basically made them into race cars? Could have sworn things like the fully modded Rx-7 were seriously fast.
Eden, sometimes there's a Fiat 500 from '69 in the 80's used car dealership. So it is actually possible for this one.
There's about 3 or 4 60s cars that show up from memory
Idk but i feel that you can also find a Mini Cooper S '69
Isuzu 117 on historic used dealership sometimes spawn too
But still haven't had any moment to see a pickup truck in used
Also Mercury Cougar spawns in the dealership every so often, so it would be not only possible, but actually easier
It's a very simple pleasure browsing these used car dealers. I was happy to find it returned in GT7, but the three separate dealers in GT4 packed to bursting with all kinds of older, obscure and rare cars, it just hits different.
25k for a 400r is the most shocking part of the vid. They go for over a million today.
NOTE: in case you want to do this in the future again, you can get money fast by doing the costa di amalfi rally on easy difficulty. the prize is a toyota rsc rally raid car that costs around 260k
I used to play this game so much and this was the easiest way to money hack the game haha
True
That was how I managed to get enough money for one of the black Le Mans prototypes that become available for a few specific days at the used car dealers.
Nice trick! Will have to remember that one.
You can make more with the DTM championship. The prize car is worth like 400k
Every 700 days you can find 4 incredible racecars in the two 90's dealerships, like toyota gt one, nissan r89cp (or 91 or something I do not remember) and others, so yes you can finish the game since one of them reaches a maximum power of 1100+ hp
*2023 EDIT*
Or just use the very recently discovered cheat code for 10,000,000cr.
The thing is though, grinding for money without a DTM car is a pain in the arse. Not impossible but it takes a lot longer (~260k from Costa Di Amalfi easy vs ~900k from the DTM). And you can't buy any of the DTM cars from the used dealers either. You also need something like 9 or 10 million credits to get the 787B, R92CP, R390 and TS020 all in one go.
@@blainy-o93 no ?
you only need about 2-3 million credits
@@NotHyperion you need that much for one. You need 9 million for all 4.
@@blainy-o93 oh i thought you meant only for one of them
my bad
you need to give them the rigidity refresh though or else they handle like ass at high speed. I found out the hard way lol
Gt 4 was where i fell in love with cars. Learned specs, capacity..what made a car fast.
And cutting the track was like an art🎨 , lol.
I’ve played this game all everyday since it came out. After working on my car I come in and get a couple laps in and try to dial the car to my driving more and more. This game has not let me down. I rather play it than 5,6,7 sport. Just has a good feel to it.
You can get a car under 70s in the historical used car dealership. You can find a pickup truck in the modern used car sometimes. Also the best meta car that can take on even LeMans cars is the Subaru Impreza that you already own. Medium slicks and fully tuned its a beast
theres no pickups in used cars, all 4 allowed cars are sold as new cars in their respective dealerships, and the 5th one is the prize car you get from the championship itself
@@j4ff4c3ks1 the ram only shows up in the used car dealership
@@wyldcardsam the ram is in the dodge new cars dealership. literally booted up my ps2 just now to see it there.
You can also get the black lemans cars also in the used car dealership.
@@wyldcardsam no sports trucks show up in the used dealer. the used car dealers only carry cars made before 2002.
I love this game so much. It's been a great companion throughout my early childhood
Honestly i think that sports truck event should be like the only event that the challenge should allow, since the game has no other way to obtain a used truck or a trophy truck (even tho you get a truck as a trophy in that event) for said event
Wonder why Polyphony didn't add the Shelby Dakota or the GMC Syclone to GT4. They could have been good Used Cars to use for the Sports Truck Event
You inspired me to do this myself and it's a really fun challenge! You can get a pre-1970s car very rarely on the used car lots and you can even get one of the black Le Mans cars on the final week of the cycle. It does take a bit of grinding and research to skip the days where you can specifically take those cars but it does mean that the only truly impossible cup is the pick up cup
More racing and driving games need this amazing feature.
While Gran Turismo 4 has a number of series that don't have any eligible used cars (the Sports Truck Race and various manufacturer events come to mind), I wonder if it's theoretically possible to beat GT4 using only used cars where possible. In the case of high level events like the World Championship, you could of course use the four black cars that show up at the end of the used cycle. Outside of the truck race and some manufacturer events, I can't think of any obvious races that don't allow any used cars.
Also, I forgot about the DTM series. No used cars to use there.
If there was no restrictions like gt2 theoretically yes but you have to pick out a really good aerodynamic and light weight car to be competitive with prototypes if lets say you're impatient type. Waiting for the week for the secret black cars to come isnt going to happen sooner.
Long story short. In theory if the game is less strict about what you do then yes it can happen especially if they had more trucks in used car dealership. Could thrown in the cyclone and typhoon in mix would be good options for used dearler if they get the rights to gmc.
Also manufactures races we dont need worry about them. We aren't focusing on racing those. Its simply the beginner and pro league
from my experience the only race you cant get a car for is the truck race from the used dealerships. during the second year some late 60s cars spawn in one of the dealerships. also on day 694 the black cars appear in the early and late 90s showrooms r92cp, r390, 787b and GT-one.
I wish I could get these cars for that price irl lmao
Game came almost two decades ago
@@AKK5I I... I know...
@@StrafeWasTaken heh it just feels so weird seeing s15's and a yellow bird for so cheap
@@AKK5I yup
@@AKK5I and that’s a rare yellow s15 lmao! I’m kinds disappointed that he sold the 400r and got rid of the concept tho. Dude really got no idea how rare those cars in rl.
Can we get a series like this? Or similar? It’s such a brutal challenge that could be duplicated closely in a lot of racing games. Like tuning the best car you can get at a low level-or worst- and tuning it as far as possible for as far as it can get through the career. You could probably reach very high performance levels with fine tuning, although I’m sure the time to tune will be exponentially long, the further you go in a career… 🤪
Man you seriously need to be shown up more on TH-cam, I can see a lot of effort on each of your videos.
This challenge becomes really easy if you make it to day 694. You can get black versions of Mazda 797b, Nissan R92cp, nissan R390 or even the Toyota GT-ONE
remember, its not week 700, its the 100th week (day 693-day 700) that spawns the le mans cars. also, this cycle is on a 100 week cycle, so day 693-700, day 1393-1400 etc will have the le mans cars
and by grinding licence, some races and the japan championship, you can get to the needed 6 mil (or 1.2 mil if you just want to get one car) by the time you reach day 693
i say 693 instead of 700 because, if you wait for day 700, and you buy a car, the shop will reset as day 701 will be counted as week 1
Completely random but the UI and Interface for these old games are so cool I miss this era of games.
once i found out the Costa di amalfi race gives you a Toyota that i can sell for 230k every time, i grinded that shit for like 50 times until i could afford anything i wanted in the game.
I was looking for this comment
Hell ueah used to do the same lmao 🤣
Where did the time go? 😭
Yup,did the same thing. I must’ve raced the Amalfi like a thousand times
It is a easy car to get good money but there's others that pay out more but it will take longer to get like the dtm championship for instance
I got a first generation PSP recently with a copy of GT, I play it almost every night and the nostalgia seriously never ends. Best racing games ever!
Note that buying/selling a car makes a day go by. Assuming you were already halfway to day 694 (the day the first "black cars" appear), buying and selling 150 cars would get you all the way there, and using cars that only cost 5k could be done quite cheaply too. Buying a 60s car is also possible in the 80s dealership.
Capri Rally is a vibe. I don’t Know how many times I used the 200k+ credit exploit.
Love seeing original content still being made on GT4 all this time later :)
I'd have to rectify your line by saying the first iteration of the used car dealership in gran turismo started in the first game, although in gt3 it was missing, in the later titles it was stayed (until gt sport came out and they removed that mode again)
In GT6 they removed it aswell
2:02 Everyone Gangsta Until The Fact That Its A Pink Yaris In Disguise
i like to see the pink vitz still being referenced
sehr vitzig
You can actually beat the game because I remember during my play through of the game that I actually got my car for the historic cup from the used car dealer I believe it was a mercury
You can get the black edition of the mazda 787B, Toyota GT one in used cars dealership for complete the GT world championship but this cars appear around day 690-700
You have a poster of Paris, I wonder who was in Paris?
The N
Neighbours
Fellas
Negus, the Roman Emperor
Kanye West (Ye)
Seeing the Nike One is a nice blast from the past, especially seeing the model year
I am honestly shocked at how well this game has held up graphically. Can tell they really put the effort in.
Graphics improvement. It doesn’t naturally look that good.
@@xaf0163 I have played the game vanilla and I stand by the statement. I mean it doesn't look like it was made last week, but it still holds up well.
@@Person01234 maybe it's something on my emulator then, because it looks pretty rough for me.
I remember beating GT3 using only 2 cars: a Lancer evolution all maxed out, and then when I had enough money I bought a Suzuki Escudo lol
The escudo was ridiculous
I still need to save up to get the Escudo, it's so much harder to get money on GT3 than GT4, and it was already hard on GT4 (apart from the Capri Rally).
As someone who started playing Gran Turismo Sport as their first Gran Turismo game and currently playing GT7, the car selection seen here makes me so sad. So many awesome cars that aren’t available in GT7
I bought a backwards compatible 60GB PS3 to play loads of PS2 games. Gt4 is 10 times more fun than GT Sport.
Man, I miss this game. I don't have a working copy anymore and I'm scared to even look at how much it's going for in good condition these days. When my father gifted me a PS2 back in the day he went with the GT4 bundle because I had always loved cars since before I was really even old enough to comprehend what they were. I started with a CR-X Del Sol and loved every second of driving it, especially once I'd figured out what nitrous is. I was terrible at it because this was my first ever game on my first ever proper console, but I didn't care. Gran Turismo 4 will always have a special place in my heart.
Very fun challenge indeed. Sometimes it’s more fun when you get a challenge than speedrunning all the races with a fast cars. I think it’s definitely okay to use the cars from the dealership if they won’t spawn in the used car deal as longest you don’t grind money on those levels 😉, I think you could have gotten further if you fully tuned your cars and found the best car for corners. Horsepower isn’t always everything, but I must say the weight reduction is definitely the most early op upgrade on any car, they feel like driving a formula car in corners & acceleration 😂
The first Gran Turismo game I really got into was GT2. I went through some of the license tests, but the first car I bought and really put to use was one of the used Toyota Supra. I don't remember which one it was, twin or single turbo, but that car got me through so much of the game and used it more than any other car.
Good times.
This was so much fun to watch! I love GT4 with all my heart! 😊👍
A secondary comment:
I came to think of a way to bend the rules a little:
Try to see how far you will make it if you were to allow the purchase of a truck, as well as using a select few prize cars to circumvent the limitations of the races.
1. Any of the 4 purchaseable trucks are allowed to enter the Sport Truck Race
2a. There are certain prize cars available which are from the 1960's or earlier.
2b. On occasion, there are possibilities to obtain 60's cars in the Historic Showroom. These are the Mercury Cougar XR7, the various Fiat 500's, a '65 Nissan Silvia and a few others.
3. You can win a Le Mans car in the El Capitan endurance race (The Toyota Minolta 88C-V). Otherwise there are special versions of certain LMP racecars available between day 700 and 706, if you are willing to wait until then. You need around 2.25 million credits to buy one of them (or to buy all of them, you need around 9 million credits).
In Showroom 1, you can find the Mazda 787B and Nissan R92CP, and in Showroom 2, you can find the Toyota GT-One and the Nissan R390GT1.
Your content lately is amazing. Keep it up Dustin! We love you tbh
I’ve loved the GT series since i was 6. So this was refreshing to see. New sub
Fun fact: the historic used car showroom is called 80s showroom in the pal version which makes it very confusing when classic cars appeared in it.
I just finished a 100% playthrough of this game. Really getting interested in your channel!
I should say it was a great content. Really enjoyed watching this!
GT 2 and 4 are the only ones I own physical copies of. So many fond memories with both
that toyota rally truck farm of money was so gold.... i miss old gt games!!
yo, eden, you can beat the game with only used cars (at least the majority of the races with em, thats includes the GT World Champ.) you only need hard tune some specific cars like the ZR1 C4 or the Dodge Viper GTS (this apply for a big bunch of cars, so take it easy) and obviouslly, use the warm up session to make a qualy time and start in 1st place the races in a championship.
When I played GT5 MOST of my cars that I had were used lol. I thought of it as giving them a second chance
Just started watching your videos and gotta say I love your content . Also a huge gran turismo guy
You can buy a Daihatsu Midget-II for Sport Trucks Race and Fiat 500 for World Classics from used car dealerships. But great video, thank you :)
If I remember correctly the Capri Rally in the special condition events gives you a car that can be sold for around 280k or something like that
I am playing through it again , and again , an absolute joy 👍👍👍👍
in a future video can you try to beat Gt4 without ever using a Japanese car?
@9:09 Yeah Dustin, but the most profitable race is a 2 stage special event, Amalfi Coast or something, because you win a rally car worth 265,000 credits.
Oh yes the Lancer Evo, I think I started every single playthrough with that thing. Lasted quite a while with a few upgrades
Two used cars i used a lot: Nissan 300zx (over 800 hp fully tuned) and the Lexus GS 91 (good sleeper, 700/800 hp!)
Sport truck challenge, the bane of all Gran Turismo 4 challenge run
Thats the life of a racecar driver/street racer. Race, build/tune, win, sell, repeat.
You can just go to "Special Conditions" events, do the Costa di Amalfi races on easy mode, total of 4 laps, sell the prize car for 256.000 Cr. If you could get a new car, you could buy the Audi A4 Touring car, go to "European Events" and win the Deutsch Touring car something something in B-Spec mode and sell the prize car for more than 700.000 Cr. It is really easy to make big money in GT4
If you’re planning a challenge of beating the game with reward cars only, I did find out out of sheer desperation and will power back in about 2007 that you can beat the touring car cup with a Toyota rally raid car on race slicks.
doing the second special conditions race is easily the best way to grind credits. 2×2 Laps and you win a car you can sell for over 250k. thing is you can play it over and over again and you get the car every time. also you can get the shadow 787b, r92cp, r390 and gt one on the used car dealer ship to win the final tournament, but they are very rare.
Do it in GT5. Pick Ups and Classics do spawn in the used car dealership there.
I seem to remember being able to progress the game day and thus change the user car dealership by going onto license tests and pressing the next button
Hey, watching this again and I hope you revisit this challenge. I found out that you can make a road going car even faster than a race car if you tune it. PSL Racing has a series in tuning that can be useful for you to beat the GT championship. Also, you can money grind with the Capri Rally easy, selling the rally RSC for 265k cr each time.
Edit: another thing, stealth cars are sold in the used car dealerships i think from day 680 something until day 700, those still count as used and you have to change the oil.
Eden and his prize cars vs The eBay vehicle selling market
We need more Gran Turismo challenmge videos like this!
Well, i've beated ALL the Special Condition Events with a used Lancer Evolution VII GT-A (MUST be this version of Evo VII, 'cause it has a special semi-auto gearbox, you can do some crazy gear reductions with it)
Obviously it was highly-tuned with maximum power (550cv)
Can you be more specific about what you did please? What do you mean by gear reductions?
@@Gaming.Vids1 if you reduce gears without braking in any other car, it will "engage the clutch" automatically
in the Lancer Evolution GT-A, when you reduce gears without braking, it doesn't engage the clutch, actually you'll have a "engine braking", you can brake more properly without lose rpm's
trust me, that car is really good for these events, i won the Suzuki Escudo using the Evo GT-A
@@JBoyGBR Thanks for the info. I'll have to give it a try.
Are there any other cars like that in Gran Turismo 4 or any of the other games in the series? Are there any other cars with different cool things like that?
@@Gaming.Vids1 as far as i know, no
There aren't any other car that can do this on any other game on the series (i just played from 1 to 4. 5, 6, Sport and 7 i didn't played)
How about trying to beat it using only prize cars?
Cars from the 60s do spawn in the historic showroom but they are few and far between. The '67 Mercury Cougar for example, plus a handful of '60s Japanese cars that aren't quite as competitive
the Spec II mod adds the Daihatsu Midget to the Sports Truck Race, making this challenge actually possible to fully complete. also, you don’t need one of the “black cars” to finish GT Worlds, a maxed-out RX-7 FD is fast enough
If you get to ingame day #692, 4 black cars will show up in the used car dealership. The Mazda 787, Nissan R92CP, Nissan R390 GT1 and the Toyota GT-ONE. With those cars you can beat any race ingame. All 4 of these cost a total of 8,300,000 credits and you can grind that money by doing the Rally Amalfi and selling the Toyota RSC Rally Raid Car.
Unless the events require American/European cars.
I saw that Honda Civic in the thumbnail and it's making think... cool vibrations.
the Mazda 110 also spawns in the historic dealership, build from 67-72 there are 3 models one can use to win the respective cup; also the Fiat 500 in various forms
seeing it say Mazda 6 " concept " is such a throwback
Love the sax song at the end. sooo good.
Like many before me has commented here. The used car dealership was a thing in the original Gran Turismo, as well as GT2.
Unlike GT4 however, the used car listings were actually listed by the respective dealers, and not an all-in-one solution.
The first game did feature many of its best (and fastest) cars in the used dealerships, such as the 1995 Supra RZ, the Nissan R33 GTR, the Mazda RX-7 Type-R and the Mitsubishi GTO MR.
As for GT4, there were many pre-1970 models available in the historic showroom. Notably small sports cars like the Honda S500, S600 and S800, as well as the Mini, the various versions of the Fiat 500 and of course the Mercury "Mustang" XR-7 (Yes, since Mercury was a division of Ford, the Cougar shared its platform and most of the bodywork with the default Mustang, with the key difference being the front and rear ends having a more exclusive look on the Mercury, such as a uni-grill, flip-up headlights and larger tail-lights. Shelby later used the Mercury tail-lights on the GT500). Mind you that most of these cars appeared after a certain time threshold had been reached in the game.
I have fond memories of the XR-7 being particularly good at the rally stages for some reason.
Also, certain blacked out LMP racecars made an appearance in the used car dealership between day 700 and 706.
These were the following models: Toyota GT-One, Nissan R390 GT1, Nissan R92CP and Mazda 787B, all of which could be used in GT World.
But yes, the pick-up trucks are the only sub-class of cars that can not be bought used, therefore making this challenge impossible.
Short answer: Yes. The Black Cars that show up in the used car dealer at a specific time. That's really all you need to beat the game. They are as fast as anything else.
The best challenge, and the one i did a couple of years ago successfully in GT, GT2 and GT3, is beat every single event in the game without spending any money whatsoever UNLESS there is a race where there is no obtainable entry car, this challenge is trully a challenge for some events, specially in GT2
Yes like many people said the used car feature was in the first game. But GT2 was where it was at with 600 cars. In total. Gt4 nailed it perfectly like GT2 did over GT1. Also the le man 'black edition' used cars spawn on week 99 (days 694 to 700) and uh yeah I think the Nissan R390 and Toyota gt-1 are still 3.6million credits.
Is Carpe Diem (seize the day) kinda challange possible in gt 4?
Carpe Diem Challange:
1. Once you done (gold) an event you cannot enter that event.
2. You cannot sell car or if not possible limit selling car to 5 cars only during challange
3. Winning percentage must not fall below 80%/90%
4. Challange ends on GTWC
5. (Optional) days limited to 1 year (365 days)
6. No save states (except on license)
The sportsmanship is strong with this one
I know it's been 2 years but the Mercury Cougar '67 spawns at used car showroom at around day 300
"how can i beat le mans cars without a le mans car?"
mrxbas: "hold my beer"
i just noticed that no one here has talked about the secret black edition cars that appear in the used car shop: they’re the nissan r390, the nissan r392, the toyota gt one and the 787B. they appear during days 694-700
This would be easily possible if you could get a used pickup truck to complete those races.
As for the GT World Championship, when I first played GT4 I bought the used Mazda 787b and smashed the tournament. While it doesn't have the highest speed, it's tire wear and handling is brilliant. It's easily one of the quickest cars around most tracks
i had won the last champ using fully tuned cars, there are some that goes very extreme, but you need to grind a lot of money to be able to do that
You can win the Supercar Festival easily with a fully upgraded R32 / R33 / R34 or Evo 7 or RX7, just need the Stage 5 Turbo from the tuner village so you actually have a power band, NSX can't upgrade to the required power limit, pretty sure the Corvette could have done it as well
Next challenge would be to try beat the game with only cars that you get as prices. Without buying any cars! It may not sound that difficult but would surely be fun to watch.
I'm subscribing just to see you trying again with more research and after reading the comments. I'm pretty sure you can do this. I also hopped backed into GT4 and now I'll try to reach 100% completion for the first time. Or maybe like 50 or more.
I’ve tried getting aa far as I could go in the game without spending any credits, I think I managed around 52% before I had to buy a truck!! It’s knowing what races unlock what cars, the Capri Rally 5 lap races will unlock a Toyota RSC Rally Raid which can destroy a LOT of competition in a lot of races. On days 693-700 in the game, four black edition LM cars appear in the used dealerships (787B, GT One, R92 and R89 I think).
The DTM championship, you can make around 750,000 every time
Never seen a better tire heating mechanics since then