Why did the Hawks give up on Cam Reddish?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
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The Atlanta Hawks traded Cam Reddish and the reaction was bad for Trae Young’s team. Everyone is saying the Knicks easily won the trade for acquiring a 22 year old 10th overall pick for a heavily protected first. This is a look at why the trade is actually one of the most interesting deals we’ve seen in a long time.
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Hey so as a Hawks fan I heard about this and was like WHAT so I’ll explain Cam already had requested a trade out of Atlanta months ago because he didn’t think he could be what he believes he’s can be in Atlanta. Hawks just wanted a first round pick they turned down multiple offered that has included 2nd round picks.
Yah Casey I really didn't get this trade unless it is to bring Zion to the New York Knicks. RJ, Cam, and Zion all played at Duke together. I mean the Knicks did get the better part of the trade I would rather have Cam at the wing than Knox who has been irrelevant tbh, plus Cam is better than Knox but I do agree with you on this trade just didn't really make any sense at all? Yah and the Hawks might have some bigger trades to come like you said John Collins for Jerami Grant that then would make some sense like you said. Thanks for the video my friend.
It makes sense for new york but not the hawks. New York got Cam for free tbh.
I mean the hawks are kindq high risk high reward they took trae over luka and its going well so they basicly did it again but much more very high risk and very high reward if they uses knox butter
Already have Ingram who is better than all of them.
@@memoirsofalegend5472 yah and how bad are the Pelicans... it's going to be AD 2.0.
@@MartinsTix8 facts
As an Atl fan… thanks for the vid Casey. I’m not big on acquiring Simmons, I would much rather Grant. A JC for Grant trade almost seems like a wash. Grant I see is a minor upgrade over Collins and I’m not sure that moves the needle the way the Hawks need it to… because yes… we’re bad on defense currently and it’s costing us wins.
I agree that Grant is a minor upgrade on offense but that’s not what this team needs. They are 4th from bottom on D!! Grant would be a big help.
You are forgetting tho, im assuming Collins was bad on defense so thats an upgrade for sure, you guys get to keep Clint and onyeka okongwu since Grant is a better shooter, plus he isnt the best playmaker but in Detroit he wasn't so bad at playmaking
@@AMHoops Nice Video, completely agree. Cam Reddish's trade ain't make sense unless Cam Reddish somehow ends up averaging 19 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 48 percent from the field, 40 percent from deep, and 86 percent on free throws.
I was wondering, are you going to do a 2022 NBA Mock Draft some time this month or next month, I want to here your opinion this draft class.
I don’t think it’d be for Jc they would offload Gallo contract and a 1st for that
@@AMHoops your overrated AM hoops
Damn that’s crazy… crazy that we are on a 4 game win streak since trading him LMAO
So fn refreshing to hear a gm speak honestly
And if I were to get one star, I’d want Jaylen Brown. Good two-way guy who gets to return home. Trae n Dre should be untouchable but anyone else can go since we’re playing like dump.
Jaylen its also my favorite target, but I don’t really think the Celtics would sell him.
I just don’t think he’s available like Ben and Grant.
@@AMHoops most def. But I feel like those moves would be lateral moves to move on from Collins and picks.
Love the analysis. GM Travis was actually in the room when Draymond Green was drafted - and Trey Young would benefit tremendously having the Draymond Green-role played by Ben Simmons. I also think the Atlanta coach - needs to be changed (playoff run was a one-off) as well. Doc Rivers doesn't get enough criticism for the Atlanta Series Debacle as an old school playoff coach. A ball movement type coach like the Spurs or Warriors systems - would be a better fit. Jerami Grant - is a great fit too.
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Yup, cause if it's one thing our young guys need is more head coach experiments. Get rid of the guy who brought us back from a rough start and to the ECF, a coach our players get along with and respect all just cause we entered a slump.
That front office guy looks like the principal in american dad
It was well known to GM's that Cam was a Cancer to the team chemistry. So no team would've given much for him. The Knicks needed a consistent 3 level scorer. Atlanta gets rid of their Cancer and the Knicks pick up a guy that can help address their weakness that was exposed last post season. Win-Win.
Yeah I’m convinced u don’t know what your talking about
@@nC_DUKE_ me too
As a Hawks fan I was mad at the trade at first but I trust the front office that it would lead to a big trade to shake up the roster
It never happened lol
@@noelmartinez2396 still traded for Dejounte Murray so I ain’t mad
I appreciate this analysis. I haven't watched too much of Reddish playing, so I don't have a strong opinion on him defensively, but I've seen so many people talking about him as an elite defender. It's interesting how much different your take is on that.
Well he showed only 2 plays on defense and on Top of that you can find SuperStars playing worst defense than That.
Cam is A player that can be Level n Durant Good
Um Cam asked to be traded months ago.... Hawks werent paying both he and Hunter.. And Hunter is clearly better fit... Cam needs the ball in his hands.. Not to mention he had the worst +- on the team......
Looking back on this and seeing how he now got traded again for the exact reasons you mentioned, you were 1000% on the number with this analysis. Reddish thinks he's a star and plays his game like he's a star, yet in reality he's a poor shooter with little else to offer. His inflated ego got him booted off Atlanta and now the Knicks. He needs to learn how to be a role player and accept that if he wants to have a career in the NBA beyond the next few seasons.
The Hawks traded him because of his ego and lack of consistency. He's very inefficient, what he's been doing in the Blazers now?
I thought ATL was dumb asf for this trade but if Cam wanted to be the primary ball handler this makes a lot more sense
He won't play any more in NY. Unless guys are injured Thibs will have him on the bench majority of the time.
When the trade is lopsided for now and the future...
The Hawks already accepted they lost to the Luka-Trae trade. Now they trade the pick that was the only card they have for the argument of Doncic and Young trade. That was a terrible trade for Reddish imo.
You were almost right in your prediction with how Thibs handled Reddish. Instead giving Reddish a role that he didn't want, Thibs just gave Reddish no role at all.
And in a way, the Knicks still won the trade. Reddishs only real meaningful contribution to the Knicks was being used as a pawn to get Josh Hart who is a way better fit on the Knicks and has been really great for them.
I mean Cam Reddish was just basically something with the Atlanta Hawks team , it was just unbelievable.. this hawks team is just inept .
Cam shoots a three, gives up a three.
Spurs fan here. We have a guy like that named Bryn Forbes. BUT he’s 6-1 and hustles his ass off before getting burned on the perimeter. Summons every bit of his limited talent every trip down the floor, so we forgive - and sometimes even praise - his defensive effort.
Cam’s 6-8 with extended reach. No excuses for him. Not at all surprised if Nate McMillan had little patience for that kind of defensive play. Wait til Thibs gets ahold of him.
In his first season he was really good on d and he dropped off a bit in year 2 and he was playing injury in most of the games he did play and this year he asked for a trade in the offseason so i don’t think he was locked in this year on d
Cam Reddish best fit in Piston or Pacers
undefeated since Cam left. that's why
Great video man! I had no idea he was that bad on D until you pointed it out
he’s not he’s one of the best defenders on the knicks
@@h3llkat823no he is NOT. He’s terrible defensively
@@rickdaruler3186 watch a little film on his defensive history
Mane if the hawks get Ben Simmons I going start watching professional bowling
I like the subtle Zion diss
Its funny that Cam isnt even playing in New York...
Solomon “ I am going down-“ Hill 😂😂😂😂
You have to look at the situation. He's off the bench and the players he has playing with him are horrible. Okongwu hasn't been available until recently so he was playing with really bad players, this ruins your plus minus. The injuries have plagued him as well. I hope you don't eat your words when he goes to NY.
When Cam wasn't coming off the bench getting 4 min spurts, he did well. Also this year he didn't want to be with the Hawks but yes, if they don't play him in NYK, he will be frustrated.
I would be pissed af if we traded Collins for Grant. Collins is a significantly better player.
Max deal on the king nahh you did him dirty 😭
I was kinda expecting the hawks to use cam as one of the assets to get a star like Ben Simmons
Still might. They could include this (crappy) pick from the Knicks
@@AMHoops who would want that pick tho might as well include Cam in any of those deals
@@MasterJ30 to get rid of him sooner rather than later and that pick may seem more fitting than Cam for more teams
@@hawksgoated3613 I guess but couldn't they get better asset then that terrible pick?
“I know I’m nice” is crazy 😂
Interesting video.
Nice to see the stats behind cam because the eye test can fool the casuals. To be clear I still think they sold too low and too soon on cam. At worst they let him go for nothing and see what he turns into. You could even sign and trade him after next year to a team that wants him but doesn’t have salary space.
I personally like the grant idea mainly because it’s a better fit than Simmons, cheaper contract and cheaper price to acquire.
I don’t like Casey’s price on the guy though. I honestly don’t think grant is gonna fetch that much seeing that he’s almost a free agent and he’s maybe a borderline all star at best.
If you look around the league most of the contenders who are a grant away from being real contenders either don’t have the matching salaries, the prospects, or the draft picks to make a deal happen.
The best trade I’ve seen is bulls trading coby white and Patrick Williams and bulls probably aren’t giving up Patrick Williams. What other team has a good young prospect and a matching salary or picks to get grant.
Hawks have a few picks and salaries to match. IMO I like a different type of trade. Keep Collins. Trade them Gallo to match and okonwu with one pick. Pistons would take that because they get a good young player to fit their timeline.
Hawks get out of gallos contract so they don’t have to eat 5 mill next year plus they get a more sure thing on both ends. At worst 2 picks get that done.
Okonwu is a nice player who has a lot of potential
He wanted out of ATL
Not reading allat
It’s simple really, the Knicks weren’t in any significant trade talks because teams wanted young talent and picks. Knicks have picks and cap space but no players to deal. Cam helps with that a lot as an insurance policy as a trade chip himself
Can't wait for the "why the hell the knicks give up on Cam Reddish?"
It’s all about fit. Cam Reddish and DeAndre Hunter basically the same player. Kevin Knox can be decent in a gallinari type roll.
In order for most players to learn defense, coming into the NBA ,they have to play.Play and I mean mucho minutes
Mad respect for you bruh but any real hawks fan knows Collins is leagues above Grant when it comes to being a winning player LMFAO BIGGGG no thanks on that one…
Yeah I agree. I’m not a huge Collins guy but I like him and he’s a better asset then grant. Especially because he’s signed on longer.
If you want grant there are so many other options. Trade okonwu and Gallo with a pick... or 2.
Okonwu is a nice player which makes him great value in a trade to get the guy you want.
Kinda agree here. Grant may improve the defense but when playing on a good team he's more like a 15 PPG guy offensively . The only reason he looks good offensively on the piston's is because he's stat padding on the worse team on the league
@@DrRobGilles naw bro okungwu is actually really good man especially since he came back dude has been balling. Defense Is great especially for a small guy guarding bigs and he has dog in him. Dude shut down giannis and Kat. We def keeping him. Actually he starting over capela now
Can u do a Ben Simmons trade news vid
This one was a good video
I wonder if Bol Bol will be traded again
Didn't mind this trade so much until I heard the pick was top 18. No chance that conveys
Jaylen Brown next video A.M Hoops 🙏🙏🙏
Because the 22 year old top 10 pick didn’t wanna be there ? Now he’s not even getting minutes & hawks on a 5 game winning streak , let things play out
Max deal on the kings?
Cam is Knox with more swag.
I understand trading Cam but to get him for nothing is wild to me... Knicks got a steal for real
Atlanta cornering the market on the defensively indifferent….
He is the pick from luka trade right?
Therer just freeing up space for Jeremy Grant its Obvious cam doesn't fit and a 2nd unit type of guy but Huerter does he's starting rn but when Jeremy come back...
The Hawks made this Trade because they wanted a First Round Pick which no one else would offer them it, plus To Create Roster to make a Bigger Trade! Watch the Hawks for doing something "Risky to Save their Terrible Off-season!
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Hahaha I like grants versitility over Collins. Maybe the hawks start gallo and grant. But 2 first rounds sounds crazy especially if there pistons picks which would be a top 6 pick for sure
This was so random
We came up on atl get over it yall
It seems nba needs a cash cow. There’s no place to do it but ny
Yeah such a mistake for the Hawks. Its not like the Hawks have a 6 game winning streak since he left and NYK aren't using him. You just be saying some wild shit on this channel
Make that 7 in a row.
Cam Reddish is just really bad right now. He has potential but it’s telling that the Hawks gave him away
I know
Why did ATL start playing better when CAM got traded?
he wanted to play in ny and atlanta didint wanna pay him
No I believe that the hawks will trade for dejounte Murray
i can see even Bogdan Bogdanovic traded to Sixers in that smoosh deal.. and then sixers will win ring ..maybe you are onto something there
Finally Knicks did something good or is there some meta shit we're not seeing?
Can't believe a bricks fan just fixed his mouth to say a team with much better players in a much shorter rebuild has a front office that don't know what they're doing.
That trade was terrible 😂
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Cam reddish >
Hawks not that smart
Everyone always talks mad shit about Kevin Knox like he’s a bust but him and Cam are literally the same age
Nice.
Snap out of it people, Morey will only trade Simmons for Harden, Dame or Beal
Too funny!
Zion lol
Zion still eating that spotlight, we see
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Please dont do clickbait thumbs
He shud go to the spurs to learn the game
😆 hawks made the play in.....eliminating the Knicks in the process
why are you not anyones GM
He is injury prone
AARP card lol
John Collins is better than Jerami Grant. Hawks wouldn’t swap them.
Hawks 4-1 since the trade.. lol
Collins for Grant? that's giving away, way too much imo.
Collins is gonna leave anyways. Mind as well gey something
@@kingtony3420 Leave? in 6 years? lol
I totally forgot he got a contract lol
This shows thesr shows don't know nothing. Cam killing on D IN L.A. JUST TALKING TO GET VIEWS. I GET IT? BUT IT'S SAD WEN DON'T KNO WAT U TALKING & FOLKS LISTEN.
Dude Cam Reddish is 🤮
I'm not going to watch the rest of this video because of the Trae young click bait. Nobody likes that dude. Stop it
Nobody is going to win with Trea… not sorry
Cam Reddish is not good
People see the enticing 30 and 20 bombs and swear he's all star potential, but the guy has dog shit attitude and refuses to work on his faults, he's been playing the same way since high school and it isn't winning basketball.
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They said the same thing about Kobe: “thinks he’s better than he actually is”. Just sayin.
preach, cam will make travis eat his words
Cam only just turned 22, let’s come back to this Doofy page at least when he’s 23-24
yep, it took steph a few years until he started really balling out, not saying he will be like steph, just saying that he was written off too soon
@@koolsmoothfan Steph shot 43% from 3 his first season for 17.5 ppg for an eFG% of over 53%.
Not remotely comparable to a guy who was flat out bad his rookie year and apocalyptic in terms of efficiency his second year. He was bad to mediocre his third year. An improvement, but onlu cause there wasn't much lower to go.
And before you bring in another common comparison, Paul George:
PG was low volume and raw, but sthill had an over 50% eFG% which Cam has never done. He was also an impact defender with a good DBPM which, again, Cam has never been. And that was his rookie season, he improved significantly every year after that.
@@Nuvendil if you read what I wrote again. I specifically said I'm not comparing him to steph. That's no comparison. I also said steph did not reach his zenith until he played a few years. I didn't say he sucked his rookie season. I said he did not reach his peak until a few seasons in. In other words it took a few years before he played his best ball.
Cam is absolute garbage
@@bigp7644 your absolutely correct lol
We suck. Point blank period. Idk how we fell off this hard.
Didnt trae young call the regular season boring after making the playoffs like once. It's that attitude and lack of commitment to winning that's making them fall hard.
@@austinneveau9387 Not really the East is stacked. Knicks are 22-22 and not even in the Play IN. East for once is better then trash west.
@@emersonssbb last 3 years the east has won the championship twice so I wouldnt say for once. East steady been getting better than the west. But my point was your best player shouldnt be giving off that energy. Needs to stay humble and actually get real qualified experience before turning around and calling regular season boring when you're struggling to compete in that regular season lol.
@@austinneveau9387 Shows they didnt suck. Everyone else got better.They probably thought the east was gonna stay same as last year cakewalk but they were dead wrong.
@@austinneveau9387 Trae is dropping like 30 a night on like 9 assists, stop it.
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As a Hawks fan, I was waiting for this video. I never really watched Knox II, but c'mon, a veteran and a 22 growing into an allstar player for a bag of chips, our GM. I am not looking forward to getting Ben, because in your recent vid, you said John Collins and a few others for Ben Simmons.
I unno what the hawks are thinking
As a Knicks fan I can tell you Knox stinks
"Growing into an all star." The exact hyperbole comment I expect from a Hawks fan, dude had awful efficiency, terrible defense, bad decision making, terrible shooting nights, we gave the guy 20 minutes a night and he showed us nothing but empty stats, 30 point games don't matter when you lose by 10. Cam never proved his worth yet he had the nerve to ask for a trade cause he wasn't getting the minutes he wanted? Glad the egotistical locker room cancer is gone. Now the Knicks are witnessing his poor performance first hand, forcing shots, turnovers, etc.
@@evilkawhi2847 I’m a hawks fan and I agree with you. He’s not a good fit. And he was terrible with efficiency.
The Knicks just made sure that they have the 2 best friends of Zion Williams and now have the Lure needed to convince Zion to walk away from the Pelicans and their rookie max extension and sign with New York
I know Jeremy Grant is playing at a high level but the Hawks won't want to send multiple 1st round picks with Collins for Grant. They still have a higher value on Collins. People are saying KCP for Collins but I would say Sabonis for Collins would be better than that but all of these guys being made available could backfire because testing to see their value may make the players mad and hurt their value .
Um 😶 I’m pretty sure Kevin Knox is a better basketball player than u
Cam Reddish wanted a bigger role meaning he wanted to be a top 3 scoring option and shooting it sub 30 percent isnt good enough for us to keep him at that rate. Lets see how the Knicks use him bc I have a feeling he is going to regret his cocky decision once he see's how this business works.
Knicks will cut him
Some players should stay in college more than 1 year.
Nah this makes perfect sense. Cam is not that good and was just an extra mouth to feed. We open up a roster spot too. He was way too much of a ball hog off the bench and killed our play.