Beating an R34 in a Miata on the Touge...
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If you want to go fast on the Sim Racing Touge, learning how to drive slow cars is critical. Not only will this massively improve your Assetto Corsa Touge driving ability, but it’s also extremely fun and rewarding. And once you get good enough at it, you’ll be embarrassing drivers in cars far more powerful than yours.. just like this…
The thing about these beefy and powerful cars is that they’re heavy and cumbersome. This means they don’t turn so well, and it’s typically faster to sacrifice mid-corner speed to increase it’s turning ability. Then one these lumps are finally pointed out of the corner, they use their massive acceleration power to make up for that lost time on entry. This is known as point and shoot driving, or slow-in-fast-out.
But in cars that don’t have the power to accelerate out of a corner like a bullet, we need a totally different style of driving if we want any chance at keeping up. And the other day I put on an absolute masterclass on probably one of the best touges for it. Introducing Tsubaki line, this is easily one of the top 3 touges in existence. It has it all, from slow technical sections, massive hairpins and fast, undulating not-so-straights that really test a driver’s nerves. It is the perfect playground for slower cars that want to embarrass faster ones, so let’s see exactly what I did to beat the likes of the Tuned 86, RX7, Nissan GTR, Supra and 370z.
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4:03 "just because I was keeping pace in an epic fight" is the best worst misinterpretation of AI subtitles I've read so far
3:58 "by a pro seem racist" lol
@@Shoniforce lool someone didn't pay attention when doing their work haha
tbf the youtube subtitle is even better
Copious amounts of slipangle is clearly the way
"I don't drive fast cars, I drive cars fast".
I've been saying this for the last 20 years.
"Gotta brake smoothly, maintain balance. Balance increases traction." Wheeler, Vert 2005
"Balance increases traction"
*slams on the brakes and turns aggressively*
"Hmph. Traction." Wylde, Kurt 2005
@@biggestboyo2483 **Truck horn fading away in the void**
I'm so glad, as a civic driver, that we can call them "pro sim racists" because as someone who does touge on gamepad, I have an irrational hatred of wheels and every car has at least five of them
aah you mean pro seem-racists?
(3:57)
Bruh, wtf is this world coming to?😂
Pro Sim Racists?! 😂
The biggest joke about the touge union servers is that they all have semi-slicks as an option, and they're on by default.
Sounds like IRL Touge forums too
true. all cars should be running with streets. this is why I ended up making my own server line up with strictly streets only
@@MGdrifts you mind sharing with us :)
What's wrong with semi-slicks? They are perfectly road legal, and anyone seeking to get the maximum potential out of driving fast irl will be running them. If I was to regularly track/togue a car irl it would most likely be running Pilot cup 2s or AD08RSs. It's not like they are much more expensive than normal summer tires. My Michelin F1 eagle asymmetric 6 cost 85 euros per tire, an AD08RS costs 112 euros per tire. 120 more per set is not much when you're trying to go fast. Don't know why you'd chose to run on the slower tire, you might as well run on all-seasons, winters or spares at that point. Besides selecting "street" tires on Assetto could mean you're running Asymmetric 6s, Pilot sport 4Ss or some no name LingLongs from China
@@BMAD_Christoph27You don’t get it do you
Momentum driving is so much fun, I love perfectly balancing my Mazdaspeed Axela through corners and keeping up with cars pushing 500 hp
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast
Shitboxes are amazing. Change my mind
The boxes are shit.
Ferrari.
@@ghasmage8819 (sues everyone) Yea, its still good tho. But shitboxes are affordable (unless ruined by kids like the r34 and supra)
I just don’t like front-wheel-drive
@@chessie4Skill issue
ahhh yes, pro seem racists
Gran Turismo 3 had you drive a Miata on Trial Mountain for a license test, it was pretty hard because if you slowed down too much or made a mistake, the car would take 3-5 business days to get back up to speed
Worth noting, overlapping brake and throttle also slightly changes brake bias, even if only for a moment.
Now on the Isn't straight, the MX-5 performs perfectly
*Clarkson's voice*
I started simming with NR2003 and in Nascar momentum is everything. There's no hard braking into the corner and such but the pedals are there for mostly steering: more gas->more understeer, less gas->less understeer and you usually gain by keeping the speed up and the balance mid-corner. Rather than using aggressive inputs you drive like you're on ice.
Not to throw geek glasses, but The Godzilla is a status for just the R32's dominance throughout most Touring car of that time plus on a Australian magazine Wheels, and not R34 of it's time. Therefore that is not Godzilla even though with the similiar specs. Want more factual stuff just go watch Dytastic's 101 facts of Nissan it is helpful.
True but I like to add the r33 along with Godzilla due to it being very similar and close in years. R33 imo is still Godzilla. The R34 changed too much to be considered. But that's just my take
im not reading allat
@@brother_maleikThe R33 GTR isn’t Godilla either, it doesn’t have the wins the R32 does even though i love the R33 and saving up for one currently
@@NoName69696Use those 2 brain cells harder then
@@idontgotagun9867 oh sorry nerd oh wait I mean retard oh wait I probably shouldnt be mean to someone with a whore mom jack ass
Nice video man! I can really see how you've improved with the style and editing of these videos! awesome
Foregone Destruction from Unreal Tournament hehehe!
Very impressive and important info on the Video!
Nicely Done!
I am on my one 15 minute break on a 10 hour shift on the register on the 4th of July, thank you so much for being my mental reset!
Oh, nice seeing MX-5 on Tsubaki again. I was holding a WR on this combo for a long time.
Love to see a guide for my favourite touge and see exactly tecniques i use on the same places, im pretty fast and got tons of kms on tsubaki, is too fun
Good meeting you at Tsubaki when you’re making this video 😊
ive learned this irl, since i went from a golf mk4 to a audi 80. petrol 75hp to diesel 50hp, such a big difference in cornering and speed ( but the audi is so much more fun now that ive driven it for months )
ive only driven mx5 on touge for the 4 years ive been sim racing and this explains everything. my formula for going fast just doesn't transfer to high power cars because ive only driven
It's no surprise but I loooove your music choice 😍
I love the Mx5-Nd, absolute legend
You can do that in fast cars as well, if you know how to drive big cars you can destroy MX5 even with good driver, it's like you say, more of skill issue with public lobbies. People there rarely give any decent challenge 😅
Yeah but that’s not what the video is about
I've been watching your content for ages but only just realised I wasn't subscribed, inspired me to buy a wheel and teaching me to push myself =D Love the content
the comment towards the touge "racers" was so fun, also sad hours easter egg go brrrrrrr
Energy preservation is the key.
Drive smooth and keep the speed up through the corner.
Just had a blast driving this map with the Miata, thanks for bringing attention to it. If you don't mind sharing, what times are you normally doing without other cars on the road?
Wow I was doing that in my beat 07 i4 Camry downhill and I agree it works, but irl you get to feel the car much better it will tell you what it likes vs what it dosnt
imagine this guy became a real racer
the mx5 nd helps me soo much in touge
949 in a hour makes this criminally underated
Instruction unclear. Searched r34 in google and there weren't any cars.
that sim racing bloke, i really love your different ways of handling togue and rewally appreciate your content. can you please share the song you use at 0:21 ? and all the other tracks you use in this video cuz they all are bangers! cheers mate!
Thanks! It's Lemtom - Bancroft
i myself have a special line, it goes like: slow in slow out
historic simracers would say "this is monday of us"
my favourite track in the whole game
dude my brain receptors are frying. why is there so much going on at once
Good content.
alpine need to watch this
Only works irl if you do left foot breaking
Hey, cool vid! Do you have any advice for uphill races by chance?
bro this is amazing. would you be so kind to make a video about the same topic on Mobara Twin Circuit, for example? I did a trackday on my daily driver 2011 Honda Fit RS GE8. I'm going to take your tips into account when I drive there again in September :)
6:09-7:06, that whole section was really helpful for me
Are you still on your 1080 as in your description? Cant believe you made this look so good with that
Your game look awesome. What are your setting?
Yippee TSRB has posted 🎉
You should have to steer the car very little for most corners apart from hairpins, if your car is setup right and you know it's momentum shift, you use the brakes and a little steering input to rotate the car into the slip angle of your tires on entry and on the apex blend your brakes and throttle, then on exit use power to get into the slip angle again, if you do it right you shouldn't leave slip mid corner and you should apex the corner, the blending is similar to trail breaking but keeps you in the slip angle, if you find yourself going wide on the exit you carried to much speed into the corner, you can fix you line mid corner but you get a pretty average exit
Ty ty ty for not using phonk music for this. Phonk is okay but everyone and their grandma uses it. I personally love the uk soundtrack here. Little bit of garage and dnb. I also picked up on the UT tune, NOICE.
i also loved the camera work. Oh and the racing tidbits were on point too. Needless to say, but i subbed! (Taking a gamble here as this is the 1st vid i seen from this ch)
I can get a 4:45.3 on tsubaki line with the z4 3.0i. Its not exactly a slow car but its not as fast as the rx7 and its close to my e86 3.0si.
ahh, those classic jungle tunes..
Try it in a cappuccino
R34 got that clip angle
4:12 try turning off FXAA
I had similar issues in Minecraft a few years back, it had to do with Nvidia Drivers. It's either a setting (like FXAA as you said, but the Nvidia driver setting) or bad drivers that he needs to fresh reinstall
@@thomasisready I actually had this problem in Minecraft as well
U really gotta know ur lines for this to work
3:25 bro fall off the map 💀
Little secret. ALL cars are momentum cars.
i am teodoro
Do you record these videos on the touge life servers?
what's stopping me from using this momentum driving technique with the high powered supras and skylines, is it just that the supra is just too boaty and thus needs a point and shoot style of driving
slow in fast out is literally just a late apex that's what it actually is. if your car doesn't have lots of power you'd want to have a more traditional racing line to maintain as much speed as possible. while a more high powered car, which may not perform very well in the corners would be better off braking early and taking a late apex to point the car more quickly round the corner and getting on the power earlier which makes up for the slower entry speed. momentum driving isn't really a thing every driver does it, its just about maintaining a high speed through the corners at max grip ,which you'd hope every decent driver would be doing.
2:43 when do this I kinda panic idk why
are we not going to talk about the fact that in the first 5 seconds of the video the dash displayed a subway surfers video?
nobody on the touge union servers run tsubaki line anymore and it makes me sad
Every bots be on Akina 24/7 crashing into the first corner it’s boring as hell
@@JeuneF fr and then you finally get someone who can get past there but theyre slow everywhere else so you just end up passing or running away from them
@@lucasbyrnes6389 dont forget sending it down the inside of turn 3 from 200 feet back. every. single. time
@@JeuneFI like running touge so I'll normally run Akina a bit just because you can't play any other lobby unless you plan something with someone
Ah, the age old saying of: "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast." This ideology can be applied to any skill you're learning.
The funny thing is I heard this first in Receiver 2 of al things. Where the in game narrator voice guy is basically telling and teaching you how to clear rooms. Instead of running in, do arcs and slow check angles, etc. Something something slice the pie but whatever, it's wild just how much this saying works.
LADY HEAR ME TONIGHT !
5:53 somebody said Jenson Button?
So you're saying braking whilst turning into the apex wasn't slow all along? Damn. Grid and NFS sure taught me something 💀.
Master bloke i have a question how do i take those super sharp 180 corners thats something i strugle with the most
Can the a fast and a slow car is like fast in slow at the Middle and fast out?
I just remembered the s15 initial d tokyo guys SUPER LATE BREAKING TECHNIC!!!
whats the citypop song played on the shutoko expressway section?
Kowareta Wiper
Pro seem racist got me rolling lol 3:58
I am new to this, what game is this?
usui pass is for mx5
what server are you playing on
can we just talk about how at 2:10 that ae86 just drives off the road
Oh yea
f's in chat for the driver
does anybody know what reshade pack is he using plss
ive been using s2k, and idk if thats slow
3:57
Tsubaki Line is the best!
Let's say I wanna test this in my Citroën Xsara VTR, it's a 1.6. I have a really nice mountain, I mean racetrack right near me, how do I start getting faster and faster and at the same time avoind dying?
if you see jesus, it means you took a corner too fast probably, so game over
@@paultutuianu9794 Noted, will try to install wings and jet rocket👍
Get good brake pads and tires if you haven't already. Go to your local autocross to learn your car's grip limits in low speeds and then go to the track to learn your car's limit in high speeds. Once you've done all that you are ready for mountain ra-LEGALLY RACING ON SANCTIONED TRACKS.
check your tires and brakes often, and your minimum braking distance somewhere safe
The only way to know for sure if it's the limitations of the car or just the skill of your opponents is to hotlap them yourself. If you find You're lapping within the same second with two differently powered cars, then the limitations of the heavier car are certainly a factor. If you are lapping 4 seconds faster in one then you know that the driver skill will have no impact.
Another factor is tires - Selecting "street", or "semi-slick" on both cars, doesn't mean you're running the same tires. Regular street summer tires like the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, Goodyear F1 Eagle Asymmetric 6 or Bridgestone Potenza Sports can have large differences in lap times, not to mention non-UHP tires like no names from China. There is also a difference in potential lap times if you compare the same tire brand and model made in 2 different countries. A northern moderate climate country like Germany or the UK will run a different compound to Mediterranean climate countries like Greece or Italy which are also adjusted to different asphalt types.
The only way to equalize this is to have the exact same tire values in the mod files, which I'm not sure if the Kunos cars have (haven't checked (they might do though)). This brings me to the next factor - Mod accuracy. You can never get a mod to be a 1:1 of a cars real potential, that goes for Kunos cars as much as it does pay mods and cobbled together low quality mods.
I run a lap time comparison board for myself on Gunma (Gunsai Togue(aka the togue from best motoring)) on which a Corvette C4 ZR1 is apparently 5 seconds faster than an MP4-12C, 8 seconds faster than a Porsche 911(997) GT3 RS and 12 seconds faster than an Elise 111R. As such making a statement on potentials and limitations of different car types should be taken with a grain of salt.
As for your techniques, you are pretty much on the money. Overslowing is an issue that many face at first in momentum cars. It is still slow in fast out, but the balance of slow and fast has to be adjusted depending on the corner, and more importantly on the straight that follows. Using the least amount of steering (brake to rotate, gas to stop rotating) is also paramount to assure the best exit, retention of speed and preservation of tire life and temperature control. (2019 S2 iRacing Advanced Mazda Cup series vice champion, 2019 Nürburgring 24h Mazda top split winner. So I have a little experience with these little critters)
3:57 pro sim what?
Guys I think he's trying to tell us something with the different angles of the 370z crash.
What server is this?
What in the initial D is going on here?
Ain't he make a vid like this with a similar script before?
All you have to do is play Eurobeat in the background
everybody should love shitboxes they are just fun
22/100 like to views ratio???
3:56 I am a big sim racist too, I love racism
driving slow cars fast is way more fun than fast cars. The road is not a racetrack. U will be smiling at 100kph in a miata, while almost falling asleep on an s class.
alright then time to delete every car mod I have and just stick with the Honda Acty, im locking in, if you see a Honda Acty driving online thats not me
1v1 asseto
"i would probably have been smoked by a pro sim racist" -tsrb today
aint this the shinji technique
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