Its a skill based game CEO Explains the spirit of Mortal Online 2 in 4K

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  • @mrivan2626
    @mrivan2626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Henrik 100% doesn’t play his own game. Sure he will log on and talk to randos but that’s it. It took him over 2.5 years to realize we need guild tabards because in big fights it’s so hard to tell who’s who.

    • @mervailius8504
      @mervailius8504 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      lol i thought of this the first time I watched large pvp footage of this game before I grabbed it honestly that's needed asap

    • @andrewgrace8646
      @andrewgrace8646 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      actually, even weirder than that actually, he tends to play on the PTR alone... XD

    • @moldiworp9143
      @moldiworp9143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah he cemented this in my mind when he was surprised to see floating "space outlaws". Like anyone playing for more than an hour has seen multiple floating npcs lol

    • @prestonlin2253
      @prestonlin2253 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aye clearly he definitely does not play unless it's an event he's not a normal player by any means or he would be more familiar with the struggles of an average player

  • @anobodyproblem
    @anobodyproblem 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    zerg based. CEO doesn't play this game.

    • @GrimDim
      @GrimDim 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes, the first thing you get bombarded to when entering mainland are players helping you not for the most genuine reasons (usually to join a guild). I was naive at the time and thought we were having genuine good times but no, its because I'm short, skeletal, sheevra mage, that can help be a heal slave for raids. Such is life....

    • @Altmer353
      @Altmer353 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GrimDim then stop being a slave. make a proper stout sheevra mage build and go on offensive. I sometimes look at those pvp videos of melee killing mages left and right and cringe. You look like helpless kids with empty hands. Staying in place waiting to be killed. Or turning your back, running at a melee distance and getting two shotted. Level freaking defstance and blocking. Take your dagger out and parry like a decent player should. Mages bring a lot of firepower into the fight. A proper flame strike on some skilled thursar here and there can help turn tide of a battle. We won fight 12 vs 24+ koto by utilizing earthquake and ele spells. Got bunch of loot and got out before battle fatigue killed us.

    • @mrivan2626
      @mrivan2626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts

    • @ZenWit85
      @ZenWit85 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@GrimDim everything is transactional. They are helping you, because they want your help too.... doh. How is that not genuine?

    • @nikalasnalter4431
      @nikalasnalter4431 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea zergs. That so easy to maintain 50 dad gamers just to pass u off

  • @serenitydesign
    @serenitydesign 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There’s also one more factor - how easily a player can train pvp skills without painful restarting when a player initially fails. For example, if this game would have some kind of mode of quick matches/battlegrounds where death means quick respawn and trying again - that would immensely fast track new players and the skill gap would be much narrower than it is now. I’m not sure whether introducing scenario based matches is the answer for MO2 but having a way for even a guildless player to try different fight strategies without initial fear of losing would be a game changer.

    • @prestonlin2253
      @prestonlin2253 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This would be fucking massive it's how I managed to get gewd in wow you smash your face against the wall over and over until you get good. The problem in mortal is the time between you need to rekit over and over and duels while faster aren't good cause your fighting your friends who probably are nowhere near as good and if you go to the naked fab duels if you face someone better than you the fight is over so quick you learned jack shit

  • @deathstrik3
    @deathstrik3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Saying you can be on the battlefield and competitive might be true for a footie, it would be an uphill battle for a fresh player going against a person with well rolled trinkets, but doable, sure. For mages though, actual pure mages, no.

    • @im50yearsold
      @im50yearsold 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The amethyst change made cheap trinkets more competitive, and pure mages have a lot of tools now, either through armoring up with a pet or kiting on a dex build (will still get chopped to pieces by veelas)

  • @louhodo5761
    @louhodo5761 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's zerg based. Skill ceased to matter 18 months ago with trinkets.

  • @MoreDaveThanAI
    @MoreDaveThanAI 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is 100% a skill based game (which is one of the things I love about it), and honestly more people need to focus on increasing their skills and spend less time grinding gold for equipment, trinkets, etc. I think so many people have come from other games, or played them in the past, so their go to is that they need better equipment to be effective. I thought that for a long time in MO1, and after joining a good guild and having some people show me the ropes, I realized just how much every aspect of this game comes down to your personal skills vs equipment.

  • @MRCelSynap
    @MRCelSynap 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    from what I've seen, people complaining about "the grind" are not willing to figure out how to play the game, the grind itself is laughable to anyone that knows what they're doing....
    The contrast is, people used to stick in Haven to level 15 because they found it most efficient... people are just bad at exploring and find the first thing that works well enough and just abuses it instead

  • @MaltieHouse
    @MaltieHouse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Spez tell Henrik I said he's killing the game. haha. Tell him to stop. Thanks.
    If you keep adding percentage buffs, balance will never be achieved. Only someone w/ no understanding of math thinks percentage points, especially what seems like it will be 5% at the end, don't matter. Get the fuck out. Trinkets are worse, though, so I guess it doesn't matter, but the fact that you can get 20% dmg then now even more... that's not build diversity. If you wanna add in build diversity, work on the clade tree / add subclass clade trees. This is more bullshit for people to buff their characters so they can use mounts, pets, and magic at the same time.
    It's sad that this game once aspired to be a competitive game. Sure, zergs are an issue, but in the end attrition will win out. It's just getting more and more out of hand. Pretty depressing, but I guess that's what he wants.

  • @hotboxx9439
    @hotboxx9439 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    zerg based

    • @andrewgrace8646
      @andrewgrace8646 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yea, so unrealistic that 5 people can kill 1 person, when it's me. Such bad game design. I want a pony.

    • @ZenWit85
      @ZenWit85 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bigger armies often win battles. If you want even fights, play arena games. Mortal requires considering the force sizes, intrigue, factions, and diplomacy.

  • @babybear9527
    @babybear9527 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    zerg based,pay to win based,ping based,its all🤯

  • @andrewgrace8646
    @andrewgrace8646 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1%? it's 1% multiple times lol. That's not 1% anymore. XD
    Henrik is correct, having outstanding skill is possible... however.... there's a cap on skill whether anyone wants to hear it or not. A veteran, with trinkets, and mastery against a noob without any of that, and maybe an incomplete build? Outstandingly unlikely to win.
    So here's the issue with it. Yes it's a skill-based game, but stats off-set that slightly. Increasing the threshold DEFINITELY will make that worse.
    However, in support of this system; it's totally needed. Base skills don't take long enough to level, mostly. Base skills that are hard to find, might have a sort of long-term reward feel to them... but generally the vast majority of skills/lores are 1) useless, 2) easy to level.
    What I'm getting at with this; Darkfall had a sort of "infinite, uncapped leveling" system... but... it was very slow, it was a commitment to build an OP character, you really had to earn it.
    Like, I'm not mad. I'm about to become way more OP... but like I can already tell a dramatic difference between me and other players that has nothing to do with skill. IE, skills raise dmg, rings raise dmg. If I don't have to successfully hit you as many times as you do me, and we're in the same gear, I can't say much about skill. Honestly, I think they should just make trinkets drop on death at this point, or drop on death when not charged or something at least.

  • @cos4779
    @cos4779 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ok i was one of the ones worried about the gap between the no lives and casuals because of this, but if its not impossible to unlock then the vet system actually looks cool.

  • @zinc-n1u
    @zinc-n1u 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:30 It takes about 2.5 hours to hit max level in Black Desert and then you are on equal gear level in Arena PvP. Like most Mortal players you seem to not realize that basically all PvP MMOs are skill-based with gear having a varying effect (just like in Mortal). The prize pool for pro WoW Arena is like $10,000 per tourney win - so if it's so fking easy why aren't you claiming that cash? Or maybe you're just talking straight out of your ass.

  • @user-vp6yu8hh3x
    @user-vp6yu8hh3x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    a vet sweat lord spin master naked with starter sword can win against noob with steel armor+wep

    • @requena1000
      @requena1000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes? And a vet vs vet same skills one with steel armors and well geared and another with shit gear? Who win?

    • @brirMO
      @brirMO 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@requena1000well if the skill is the same then whoever has better gear will win obviously

    • @requena1000
      @requena1000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brirMO and now imagine how far is the new players from veteran player, and plus now with the new sistem.

  • @simonsn4996
    @simonsn4996 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The core combat system is skill-based, of course.Its bad ( cant dodge shit coz hitboxes are dumb, 360degree blocking, missing animations) but its core design is skillbased.
    I think the discourse about it being skill vs gear based is about the strength differences that endgame gear provides.(trinks+ogh + thursar = pretty much 100% slash res for example) So when Henrik talks about "the Gap" hes being ignorant or doesnt know what hes talking about. Theres in fact hardly ANY MMO that has gear which provides such massive defensive boosts. In most MMOs PvP a lvl 50 is much more likely to defeat a lvl 60 than it is for a guy with a steel sword to defeat someone in oghmium in MO2.
    The open world design also works against individual player skill since you WILL encounter situations where no amount of skill can save you and others have the opportunity to basically cheese you. The map is filled with chokepoints and SV in their glaring incompetence added player built guard towers, alarm systems and bases the zergs can hide in every 200m. Between those bases is mostly empty land with very little cover, which is just not what a full-loot PvP games' map is supposed to look like.

  • @cos4779
    @cos4779 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    if you want it to be friendlier to new players, you cant have a system that incentivizes out right murder and calls it PvP. You need a system where guild wars are allowed over resources, but that also punishes murderers like in real life. The problem with mortal is that murderers get a free pass.

    • @andrewgrace8646
      @andrewgrace8646 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have extremely strong agreements with at least a portion of this. The punishment for crime in this game is a fucking joke. I can't tell you how many times I've been almost at town, gotten killed by some shithead ganker, then by the time I respawned their crime timer is off and they're standing there at the bank banking my shit before I even respawn.
      I mean the fact that murderers are red. can be attacked by players, but the guards just let them wander into town without consequences is absurd on it's own, but then you have these ridiculous invisible single flagging assist mechanics.
      I mean dude's have been sitting in front of Tindrem with low HP, waiting for a noob to heal them for literally 2 years, so they can abuse this mechanic and kill them in front of guards/in town unexpectedly. Idk how tf they expect to get new players into this shit with wonky shit like that becoming a fucking tradition lol.

    • @nikalasnalter4431
      @nikalasnalter4431 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They don't want to make casual friendly shit show from mo2. They want ppa get the game, taste it and progress or leave. Game already casual friendly as hell
      U go in to the game, half of map in towers, u cam get in guild for newbs very easy, just write to any zerg guild. That so easy. But no one change the core mech. Guild own resurses. My guild own the necro dungeon. And had monopoly on necro staff.

    • @simonsn4996
      @simonsn4996 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nikalasnalter4431 lol go back to RMTing :D

    • @cos4779
      @cos4779 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @simonsn4996 there's no one left to rmt to cause they killed the pop. And yes local gray is a dumb ass mechanic, it you heal a murderer you should become crim like in UO

  • @diopm8328
    @diopm8328 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With RMT and account buying the difference between new player and veteran is inexistent.

    • @conito7083
      @conito7083 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rmt wont make you parry

    • @diopm8328
      @diopm8328 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But it makes you a dex mage with 200+hp, 10% magic damage, 50 stat light armor, 10% all defences, a ritual pet with insane defense and attack, and a 4x10m wide shield made out of diamonds.

  • @alialkhalifa
    @alialkhalifa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When a Siege is declared - it would be better to have a "Roster" of 50 max sign ups for Attack and another 50 for Defense.
    Cap the Zerg, and let skilled players enjoy 🏆 🏰
    When the Siege begins, players get ported to an instance of the same Keep. They can bring stuff to help them.
    Only way to have an anti zerg enjoyable fight.

    • @andrewgrace8646
      @andrewgrace8646 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      zero instances, get that shit out of here.

    • @KingKabila
      @KingKabila 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you like instancing you're playing the wrong game. If you cap the zerg you should cap trinkets and all other differentiators as these are much harder to mitigate than unequal numbers. This is not football or basketball. It's not that type of game.

    • @Gutz1204
      @Gutz1204 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As much as I would personally enjoy this, it’s not going to happen. The community needs to not be a bunch of hands holding pussies. The slurp between the mega zergs is outrageous. Spineless!!

    • @zinc-n1u
      @zinc-n1u 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@KingKabila You are right, because football and basketball are skill based. Good comment.

  • @requena1000
    @requena1000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    henrik dont play the game or idk what he is saying, its not gear based? xD

    • @ItsSeptic
      @ItsSeptic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nahh not gear based , ive been attacked by 2 or 3 guys in steel and i wipe them in molarium

    • @ezormovies6748
      @ezormovies6748 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ItsSeptic ofc its skill based. And ofc you are stronger in steel. You can still get fuucking clapped by 1 naked mage.

    • @TheHammerDedicated
      @TheHammerDedicated 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      its NOT AS GEAR BASED as most other mmo's is what he said, u deaf or what. which is true, if ur new and bad at melee combat a veteran can kill u while naked. this is not a thing in any other mmo ive tried.

    • @ItsSeptic
      @ItsSeptic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ezormovies6748 i meant them in steel , me in molarium

    • @ItsSeptic
      @ItsSeptic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheHammerDedicated quit being a cuck

  • @jeffdumpster1470
    @jeffdumpster1470 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    pet based

  • @SumOfSeveralEquations
    @SumOfSeveralEquations 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do think that the re roll loop is getting longer and longer, it is already 3x longer than it was in mo1

  • @Downhill66666
    @Downhill66666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    absolute children who complain about the game involving the ability to grind for an advantage over the lazy no atention-span cry babies who want everything quick and easy.

  • @Thesmurfeater12345
    @Thesmurfeater12345 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Mo2 is not even slightly a skill based game. It's a zerg based game. If you bring more players, you win. More players is the solution to every problem. Until this and mounted combat are addressed, the game frankly sucks, and no amount of new content is going to help.

    • @reesekilpatrick241
      @reesekilpatrick241 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Very Zerg based with a hardcore grind lmao I don’t know what some of this is about, 2 people equal skill one with best gear one with medium your losing almost every time

    • @andrewgrace8646
      @andrewgrace8646 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean life is a zerg based game lol. I mean I've seen people take on like 4-5 people solo before, even with a gear deficit. Like if you're mad about zergs, idk even know what to tell ya. The guild I was in the longest, quite literally WANTED off-balance fights to prove they could take them... and they did pretty damn often.
      It's not a skill-only game, and I'm not even sure what "skill-based" really explicitly means.. but there's definitely a skill-mitigation for gear... if you're melee.... if you're not melee, none of this means a fucking thing.

    • @reesekilpatrick241
      @reesekilpatrick241 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewgrace8646 good for you play a dead game

  • @TemptationS666
    @TemptationS666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wanting to come back to the game and try it out again... kinda meh on the sub but is what it is... Haven is still blocked behind the subscription? or you say "free" as in buying the game again?

    • @WolfszeitYT
      @WolfszeitYT  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      haven free to play will come with the next roadmap I guess. it will come the devs said but not exactly when it will come to the game.

  • @prestonlin2253
    @prestonlin2253 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looooool 2 weeks pvp ready to get your ass blasted for 2000 hours

  • @Toboe12PL
    @Toboe12PL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Game being heavily skill based is a also problem because a new player literally has no chance of winning any fights since hes not only outgeared but also outskilled. Getting a friend to play this game is nearly impossible if you dont hide the truth or straigh up lie to his face. "Yeah the game is really fun, but everyone has 4000 hours experience PvPing so you need at least 100 to be evenly matched with the bottom 30% of them"

  • @davepras8128
    @davepras8128 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I found myself bored and looking for content. I tried paying for sub but after a month of trying very hard to enjoy this very empty game that is missing content and has 90% of players starved for rpk I made the decision to not renew. It's just not worth it.

    • @nikalasnalter4431
      @nikalasnalter4431 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kek. Pvp is a game kek. If u are pve crab, that game not for u.

  • @Tickety9
    @Tickety9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ping based game

  • @pocketsmcgee7088
    @pocketsmcgee7088 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only skills you need to learn in MO is how to dupe (cough cough node lines) how to find the money making exploits after a patch. Learn how to use the jank yo your advantage in combat. And get good no drop trinkets. There are legacy trinkets out there that give a significant advantage.
    Still trying to sell that “ping normalization crap”. Lol. You go Henrik.

    • @ZenWit85
      @ZenWit85 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You sound like a loser.

  • @JayR165
    @JayR165 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zerg/pet based game. Which sounds fine but large scale doesn’t work! I repeat large scale doesn’t work! so it’s just a hand holding clown fest that suffocates any small scale enjoyment.

  • @rouizulueta9069
    @rouizulueta9069 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kek r u pro 😆, its not even pvp skill base its always zerg bases and the Combat is very plain and simple no Mechanics at all its So boring even the upcoming patch, SV thinks it will solve the boring Combat System.

    • @owlbusdumbledork9966
      @owlbusdumbledork9966 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The combat is only boring if you're bad at it.

    • @behelitruler9191
      @behelitruler9191 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the "nuance" and "skill" in the combat system is mostly being able to conceal your attack by making it look like a different attack and being able to read incoming attacks and block correctly. it is rather simple in base form, but the intricate stuff people do is kind of absurd and nobody should like it. xD
      as an accomplished fencer, i am offended by this game's melee combat. as a gamer, it's good enough.

  • @happyelfhobbs
    @happyelfhobbs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    AM TIRED OF FCKING ENDLESS MOB CHASE GAME.ALL FCKING MOBS ARE CHASING FOREVER AND NOT LEASHING.Fck this game

  • @SiegeFoxxx
    @SiegeFoxxx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They need to make instanced dungeons and it will fix a lot of stuff.

    • @andrewgrace8646
      @andrewgrace8646 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It would ruin the entire game, man. No one in Mortal wants anything that's not persistent, and if they do, they're playing the wrong game lol.

    • @rize-ikuza
      @rize-ikuza 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@andrewgrace8646 would be the worst. We would either have a group right inside or outside the entrance, waiting to ambush a group loading in one by one

    • @owlbusdumbledork9966
      @owlbusdumbledork9966 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hard disagree. That's what makes this game interesting and different.

    • @SiegeFoxxx
      @SiegeFoxxx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rize-ikuza You would just que up via menus or like the statues in haven

    • @rize-ikuza
      @rize-ikuza 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @SiegeFoxxx nahhh that aint it. Some of the greatest content in the game are pvp battles inside of dungeons. The unpredictable nature of the game is what makes it exciting. Coming out victorious with the enemies loot makes feel even more rewarding. But if you mean adding instanced dungeons on top of the persistent dungeons already in the game, still no. That will just reduce the game into another basic mmorpg where ppl can optionally avoid pvp