Enjoyed your info. I bought one. I travel 5 miles each day to work 3x per week. I charge once a week. (I also disconnected the speed limit. It goes 21 mph approximately 55-60 miles per charge. I'm 6'3" and weight is 185 lbs.
THAT is a cute little bike, and the range is crazy. you do a fine job of hitting all the Question marks for a bike like this with a REAL WORLD testing. Great job Citizen
One of the very few ebikes that have a front mudguard / fender mudflap that actually stops the dirt going straight into the chain / chain ring, et-al. Incredible that no one ever talks about such an important feature, in wet countries, as well as dusty, i.e. everywhere!?
Such a cool little bike, I'm 180 pounds 5,10 and fits perfect I run around flats/steep inclines and use 70% assist 3 and 30% unlocked 20mph, im getting 50 miles soooo comfy to ride and feel very safe on this as it's low gravity and the bike weighs 24kg, I've added 2x wing mirror and took of the stock tyres for vans cult 14x2.2. Got a vespa vibe The build is very good. Recommend
I was not ready for the size of the battery. I thought my Rize, at 48 X 16 was a nice size. After closing my mouth from the shock I wondered if that battery would fit my Bolt X. They are the same type of battery (I'm not fond of leaving the key in the battery either) so if it would work out would be a great update for me and my ebike. Great review as always, Citizen. 🙂
Not sure if the battery would fit the rize bolt but if it did man what an upgrade, haha, this battery is crazy, I think even bigger than those triangle bag batteries.
You should do a really steep hill test, I think I might make a video because I live where there are hills that you wouldn't believe it's possible to ride up lol I've just rode up a really steep hill and my legs are pumped up🤣
This looks like a great "last mile" commuter e-bike. Small enough to go in the Trunk, Train or Bus. Park or disembark at a distance from work and e-bike in the last leg.
Its a scooter with a seat I'm 220 lbs 6' 5" top milage I would need is for a twenty mile round trip but a non removable key is a major major drawback . I would have to tale the 13 lb battery in with me . A non removable key indicates it for joy riding only. That blow my mind. Even joy riding anyone would want to stop in a country or convince store
Another through and enjoyable review! That range is crazy, and leaves me wondering if I should go with this, or a Lectric XP2 at the same price for a 10 year old. This seems like a better physical fit, but the 15mph is gonna have me pulling my hair out waiting for her all the time.
There is really no battery key problem. Just turn the key and the remove the battery. With the key turned you should be able to take the key and the battery with you. That's what I've been told.
It's not a down grade. Right now the L3 is the most powerful mini ebike on earth. That's no down GRADE. I've got 76 miles from mine on a single charge. Nothing sub $1000 touches this gem.
Real-life range on road with hills is about 50 miles Throttle only I don't think any other e-bike even gets close to that 😎 I've got two of these and I've done 3,400 miles on one of them I use sports tracker Because there is no odometer, I go 10.4 miles a day, 5 days a week then I charged it, I only have to pedal on the steep hills, I can ride up hills that are so steep you would not believe it 🤣 I have fit kenda 14 x 2.125 The tyres that are on it when it's new are so puncture prone and they are too thin and makes the bike feel a bit unstable, the kenda are very tough and I've not had a puncture yet in about 6 weeks, I was getting two or three punctures a week it was driving me mental 😱
Hey bro I want to purchase this bike but it seems Fiido does not have them in stock at all ..do you have any idea what's going on with their production or supply chain......thanks....
Thanks so much for your time....excellent review as always...is there any way you can review a blackbird from bolton? I have a rad 5. I upgraded it like you did except for the front motor. thanks to you, you have introduced me to the upgrades.... love that bike. keep up the great videos
I've been trying to get my hands on as many e-bikes as I can. haven't had the opportunity to ride a Blackbird yet though. Hope you're enjoying that upgraded rad, pretty crazy the difference from stock right.. 😁
I hope and pray they sell this seat separately I'd like that on my bike the paint is awesome horn also not a fan of mini wheels but the features on this are spot on great video appreciate your efforts
If you are on nice smooth road 23mph might be okay, but as I rode I noticed that hitting any kind of rough road at 15mph with the small wheels and no suspension was a lil sketchy..
@@splicecentral9079 It was the Sondors Fold...the older one. I don't think they sell that motor any more. Now, they come in 500 and 750 W fold models and I think they are now called the Fold X.
Great review overall. But some detailes you missed. Does it have speed autopilot after a few seconds? How easy is it to lock with different lock-options? A scene where you carry the bike could also be added.
Gotta be able to pedal. I never throttle only except getting across the road at a light. Definitely has possibilities with f'real, pedal assist, you can feel.
Is it good to get fiido L3 from baggood store they sells fiido L3 too good price but baggood could be copy of fiido L3 as counterfeit? I wonder could I trust them ?
I've had my L3 1 year today I was getting about 46 miles using just throttle After 167 charge cycles The Range has now gone down to about 27 miles I had no problems with it I fit full hydraulic brakes And kenda 2.125 Tyres The price of the battery is more than £400 😱
I got my L3 now came in two days in the UK in was strange when I sat on that saddle like floating lol . So it's keeping my m1 company got it because of the range its like having a bike and spare battery in one .
@@stolenorange well it says its a 350 motor but no one would know its not a 259w to be honest no one bothers you see ebikes out there with motors that must be a 1000w
@@keithdainton6043 that's great. Thanks for replying. Did u have to do any service? And if yes, where did u have to take it? Just a normal bike shop or somewhere particular?
Has anyone put a 52 tooth crankset on the L3 to reduce the ghost pedaling? If so can you comfortably pedal up to 15 mph or faster? Did it make hill climbing harder? I have an L3 on order, but definately want to fix the pedaling problem. If a you would be willing to do this on your youtube channel at citizencycle it would benefit all of us…..please….
Hi guys I'm in the market, but I've experienced the useless pedals syndrome before. What I'm after is this bike with 7 mechanical gears and a 400 watt motor. 🤔
Awesome review, really nice little ebike. Keep up the cool work. Have you seen a fat tyre ebike called the Vtuvia SN100? It looks great, but from what I've seen of it it's not that good quality. It will be interesting to hear your opinion on it.
@@CitizenCycle925 You're welcome! Yeah, I came across it while looking for a fat tyre mountain ebike. Really like the look of it, great price but changed my mind when I seen several videos showing some dodgy issues. If the company resolve the issues, such as tyres not fitting properly, questionable electronics, controller wobbling around inside the bottom of the seat post, not a waterproof cover protecting it, (I seen one retailer with a disclaimer stating you shouldn't really ride it up steep hills, rough ground et al using only the throttle in case it damages the motor and controller...), it might be a good investment. Probably put you off purchasing one now, lol. Keep up the cool work.
How easy would it be to change the gearing so pedal assist would be more functional. Would probably not climb as well. I prefer to pedal and rarely use the throttle. Did you ever pedal without assistance? Does it have a Level zero No assistance?
Need to buy a 56T chainset You can only pedal at 11 or 12 mph, because the current gearing is too low I've had mine now for almost two weeks, and it gives me knee pain the bike is too short 😰 I have bought a laid-back seatpost which is angled, to bring the seat further away from the handlebars 😃
im new to this so sorry; but, you mean to take off the chain on the L3, and put on this new '56T' chain on, and it would create better experience ? thanks!
As I understand it - Looks great but illegal (or no longer classed as a "bike") in UK and EU (unless on private land). Ebikes can't have throttle that allows movement without pedalling (except you could argue one that has a max speed of - I think - 4mph without pedalling using legislation not directly concerned with bikes). If you pedal, bit of a grey area, but you could probably argue that you could use the throttle plus pedalling to get to 15 mph ('ish - legislation is in kilometres) legal maximum, but if you stop pedalling throttle must cut out automatically (this is the big problem!). So to ride it legally in UK and EU just using throttle it would be classed as motor scooter (sic) and require relevant driving licence , motorbike compliant helmet, insurance etc. I am travelling to the EU where (at least some EU countries) are more proactive about enforcing these laws than seems to be the case in UK (no doubt after some deaths/accidents and a susequent public outcry this will become a hot topic and the UK government will have to act and follow EU countries, and others around the world, in actually enforcing these safety laws!). I believe some people put screws in throttle to make it impossible to use at all, or some tape it up, or disable from controller etc. Whether this would be enough to comply legally I don't know. I am considering one of these and I was intending to use it mainly just using throttle so hopefully I'm wrong about the above so please correct anything I've got wrong!
Leaving a comment here as a placeholder for review, because I like this thing so much more than my Razor Ecosmart HD, because that thing would die in less than 40 minutes in a hilly area even if I walked it up hills, and if it dies it basically becomes a useless pos. if THIS bike dies, at least I can PEDAL AND walk it somewhere to charge it again. You're not going to want to buy a spare battery to switch off because the batteries are 500 bucks LOL. There's a way to break speed as a little factory hack, so you can go from 25km/h (15m/h) to 40km/h (25m/h) but why would you do that and ruin the ride time? I guess it depends on speediness and length throughout the week for personal preference. I'm a very light girl, 125 - 130lbs or so, plus any attachments might bring it up to 140lbs 150lbs or so, I bet I can get a lot of mileage out of it.
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Enjoyed your info. I bought one. I travel 5 miles each day to work 3x per week. I charge once a week. (I also disconnected the speed limit. It goes 21 mph approximately 55-60 miles per charge. I'm 6'3" and weight is 185 lbs.
I unlocked, about 9 miles throttle only, per bar. Does that sound right ? How long is your commute unlocked?
THAT is a cute little bike, and the range is crazy.
you do a fine job of hitting all the Question marks for a bike like this with a REAL WORLD testing.
Great job Citizen
Appreciated, thank you for continuing to watch 😊
One of the very few ebikes that have a front mudguard / fender mudflap that actually stops the dirt going straight into the chain / chain ring, et-al. Incredible that no one ever talks about such an important feature, in wet countries, as well as dusty, i.e. everywhere!?
Thanks for your video, I just purchase one of these. First ebike. Great fun and the range is exceptional.
Good choice!
Great review! I've always loved the L3, a sure fire cure for range anxiety! Keep up the good work! I just might get one when I retire!
As long as you put your lock jey with your battery key and lock the bike up key should not be a problem
I like it. I'm getting one. Love the range, it's small, foldable, light and compact. Good video thanks 👍
Such a cool little bike, I'm 180 pounds 5,10 and fits perfect I run around flats/steep inclines and use 70% assist 3 and 30% unlocked 20mph, im getting 50 miles soooo comfy to ride and feel very safe on this as it's low gravity and the bike weighs 24kg, I've added 2x wing mirror and took of the stock tyres for vans cult 14x2.2. Got a vespa vibe The build is very good. Recommend
I assume you've figured out that you can increase the top speed to 24mph by now? Great review! I'm probably gonna go ahead and get one now 🙂🍻
How can you increase the top speed??
I was not ready for the size of the battery. I thought my Rize, at 48 X 16 was a nice size. After closing my mouth from the shock I wondered if that battery would fit my Bolt X. They are the same type of battery (I'm not fond of leaving the key in the battery either) so if it would work out would be a great update for me and my ebike. Great review as always, Citizen. 🙂
Not sure if the battery would fit the rize bolt but if it did man what an upgrade, haha, this battery is crazy, I think even bigger than those triangle bag batteries.
With a little pedal help, you could use this for RAGBRAI w/o running out of juice before the end of the day.
You should do a really steep hill test,
I think I might make a video because I live where there are hills that you wouldn't believe it's possible to ride up lol
I've just rode up a really steep hill and my legs are pumped up🤣
Great review BtW. Ref key; then again, you'd have to remember to put it in to turn it off again!?
Few teeth on rear sprocket is a common upgrade and easy enough , that would probably improve pedalling.
This looks like a great "last mile" commuter e-bike. Small enough to go in the Trunk, Train or Bus. Park or disembark at a distance from work and e-bike in the last leg.
Yes probably great for that, definitely feels like mini transportation tool.
Its a scooter with a seat I'm 220 lbs 6' 5" top milage I would need is for a twenty mile round trip but a non removable key is a major major drawback . I would have to tale the 13 lb battery in with me . A non removable key indicates it for joy riding only. That blow my mind. Even joy riding anyone would want to stop in a country or convince store
Just ordered one here in the UK thanks to your review it will go nicely with my fiido m1.
@@robertbrawley5048 You can remove the key when it is turned off
Very good review , you covered everything I would of asked good job.👍🙂
Smart size tires. Love the horn. it's Futurama! I can see a one eyed 'Katy Segal' on this.
Isn't this bike uncomfortable? There were shock absorbers in l2. Why were they removed?
Another through and enjoyable review! That range is crazy, and leaves me wondering if I should go with this, or a Lectric XP2 at the same price for a 10 year old. This seems like a better physical fit, but the 15mph is gonna have me pulling my hair out waiting for her all the time.
Certainly easier for a 10yr old to handle, but like you said harder to keep up, tough one.
The best range for me is around 45miles, mostly flat Austin Texas. 4 months of ownership.
This is an awesome little bike if i didn't already have an ebike i would buy this for the range it gets and that cute back rack :)
I'm going to attach a thick padded rear seat on that rear rack.
There is really no battery key problem. Just turn the key and the remove the battery. With the key turned you should be able to take the key and the battery with you. That's what I've been told.
It was a down grade from the L2 losing the suspension, great review by the way , doing an actual range test unlike most other reviewers
74 miles
It's not a down grade. Right now the L3 is the most powerful mini ebike on earth. That's no down GRADE. I've got 76 miles from mine on a single charge. Nothing sub $1000 touches this gem.
Real-life range on road with hills is about 50 miles
Throttle only
I don't think any other e-bike even gets close to that 😎
I've got two of these and I've done 3,400 miles on one of them
I use sports tracker
Because there is no odometer, I go 10.4 miles a day, 5 days a week then I charged it, I only have to pedal on the steep hills,
I can ride up hills that are so steep you would not believe it 🤣
I have fit kenda 14 x 2.125
The tyres that are on it when it's new are so puncture prone and they are too thin and makes the bike feel a bit unstable, the kenda are very tough and I've not had a puncture yet in about 6 weeks,
I was getting two or three punctures a week it was driving me mental 😱
Hey bro I want to purchase this bike but it seems Fiido does not have them in stock at all ..do you have any idea what's going on with their production or supply chain......thanks....
Thanks so much for your time....excellent review as always...is there any way you can review a blackbird from bolton? I have a rad 5. I upgraded it like you did except for the front motor. thanks to you, you have introduced me to the upgrades.... love that bike. keep up the great videos
I've been trying to get my hands on as many e-bikes as I can. haven't had the opportunity to ride a Blackbird yet though. Hope you're enjoying that upgraded rad, pretty crazy the difference from stock right.. 😁
Can you put a bigger battery like 32ah in this to go even farther?
Good review as usual. Thx.
I hope and pray they sell this seat separately I'd like that on my bike the paint is awesome horn also not a fan of mini wheels but the features on this are spot on great video appreciate your efforts
i was thinking the same thing
The seat is very plush, I just wonder how it would work for a heavier rider it might be too soft..
The seat is ok unless you want to pedal then it digs on the inside of your legs 😱
I have an old Sondors 350 W bike and I was able to go 23 mph. If they unlocked the motor to go 20 mph, this would be the ultimate commuter E-bike.
What model is that if I may ask?
If you are on nice smooth road 23mph might be okay, but as I rode I noticed that hitting any kind of rough road at 15mph with the small wheels and no suspension was a lil sketchy..
@@splicecentral9079 It was the Sondors Fold...the older one. I don't think they sell that motor any more. Now, they come in 500 and 750 W fold models and I think they are now called the Fold X.
Great review overall. But some detailes you missed. Does it have speed autopilot after a few seconds? How easy is it to lock with different lock-options? A scene where you carry the bike could also be added.
You mean cruise control yes it does
It's not easy to carry at all it's very awkward to get in and out of a boot 😱
Gotta be able to pedal. I never throttle only except getting across the road at a light. Definitely has possibilities with f'real, pedal assist, you can feel.
Yes, but can you use it with no key manually (i.e. with no electric)?
love it
Is it good to get fiido L3 from baggood store they sells fiido L3 too good price but baggood could be copy of fiido L3 as counterfeit? I wonder could I trust them ?
Not in the US; in the UK; so still need MPH etc; not KPH?
great info!
I've had my L3 1 year today
I was getting about 46 miles using just throttle
After 167 charge cycles
The Range has now gone down to about 27 miles
I had no problems with it
I fit full hydraulic brakes
And kenda 2.125 Tyres
The price of the battery is more than £400 😱
Do you have an estimate of how many miles you did in that year? That's wild
Did you find the kenda tires better than the cst?
TOP 🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝 fantastic Fiido LE💖💖💖💖💖💖
I got my L3 now came in two days in the UK in was strange when I sat on that saddle like floating lol . So it's keeping my m1 company got it because of the range its like having a bike and spare battery in one .
Is it legal in the UK?
@@stolenorange well it says its a 350 motor but no one would know its not a 259w to be honest no one bothers you see ebikes out there with motors that must be a 1000w
Hi Keith, So how is it going 6 months on? Any problems/issues with it?
@@akhan9718 no everything is still good just back from a ride
@@keithdainton6043 that's great. Thanks for replying. Did u have to do any service? And if yes, where did u have to take it? Just a normal bike shop or somewhere particular?
Has anyone put a 52 tooth crankset on the L3 to reduce the ghost pedaling? If so can you comfortably pedal up to 15 mph or faster? Did it make hill climbing harder? I have an L3 on order, but definately want to fix the pedaling problem.
If a you would be willing to do this on your youtube channel at citizencycle it would benefit all of us…..please….
I believe the rear sprocket is 16 tooth , I would probably change it for a 11 tooth sprocket
hey, average joe, we deserve to watch an actual range test. like what u did to radrover, himiway, rad step-thru mini.
Editing it 😁
The range achieved was just shy of 50. I'm 96 kilos and did a few climbs but still, I don't get it
Hi guys I'm in the market, but I've experienced the useless pedals syndrome before. What I'm after is this bike with 7 mechanical gears and a 400 watt motor. 🤔
yes license plate folder - like Japan
I really enjoy this video well I have a question can the fiido l3 unlock to 35km
Awesome review, really nice little ebike. Keep up the cool work.
Have you seen a fat tyre ebike called the Vtuvia SN100? It looks great, but from what I've seen of it it's not that good quality. It will be interesting to hear your opinion on it.
Thanks Wayne! I think I have heard that brand before but have not seen one in person.
@@CitizenCycle925 You're welcome! Yeah, I came across it while looking for a fat tyre mountain ebike. Really like the look of it, great price but changed my mind when I seen several videos showing some dodgy issues. If the company resolve the issues, such as tyres not fitting properly, questionable electronics, controller wobbling around inside the bottom of the seat post, not a waterproof cover protecting it, (I seen one retailer with a disclaimer stating you shouldn't really ride it up steep hills, rough ground et al using only the throttle in case it damages the motor and controller...), it might be a good investment. Probably put you off purchasing one now, lol.
Keep up the cool work.
Can they build 16" with this power?
Do you know where I could buy this bike
How easy would it be to change the gearing so pedal assist would be more functional. Would probably not climb as well. I prefer to pedal and rarely use the throttle.
Did you ever pedal without assistance? Does it have a Level zero No assistance?
Need to buy a 56T chainset
You can only pedal at 11 or 12 mph, because the current gearing is too low
I've had mine now for almost two weeks, and it gives me knee pain the bike is too short 😰
I have bought a laid-back seatpost which is angled, to bring the seat further away from the handlebars 😃
Could this fit under a shopping basket?
The ones you see at grocery stores.
I'll wait for the new model. I'm sure the company will improve speed next.
nice review. when will you post the range test?
Hoping this Sunday 8/1
Does it roll while folded? Apologies if I missed that being mentioned!
What speedo app are you using on your phone?
I wonder if any has put a dual motor on this bike?
I think u can just increase the size of the chainring . Maybe put a 56T. Solves the gear problem.
im new to this so sorry;
but, you mean to take off the chain on the L3, and put on this new '56T' chain on, and it would create better experience ?
thanks!
@@MaximAmadi hi. By 56T it means the size of the "Chainring" not the chain itself. The round gear beside the pedal.
@@egoyegoy23 Ah, I see. So the 56T would be bigger or smaller in size in comparison ?
@@MaximAmadi bigger for it has more teeth
@@egoyegoy23 Thank you, do you know how many teeth this one has?
i managed 81 miles throttle ( no pedalling) and I weigh 215 lbs! I
I heard you can get up 120 km on that little bike at 20 miles an hour.
I love it, but the battery is so expensive about $700
I Love it! I think it's great!
Not available in the US, sold out. Bummer
Available online on Banggood website
@@peterfernandezjr5914 and dose a script Pop up 'saying' Do you Trust this site...
@@allenschmitz9644 it didn't show up when i clicked on it.
@@peterfernandezjr5914 Yep.
My Buddy bought 1️⃣ from Amazon other day, an orange one.
U.S. stock is already sold out.
74 miles, with maxed out throttle. 🤪
As I understand it - Looks great but illegal (or no longer classed as a "bike") in UK and EU (unless on private land). Ebikes can't have throttle that allows movement without pedalling (except you could argue one that has a max speed of - I think - 4mph without pedalling using legislation not directly concerned with bikes). If you pedal, bit of a grey area, but you could probably argue that you could use the throttle plus pedalling to get to 15 mph ('ish - legislation is in kilometres) legal maximum, but if you stop pedalling throttle must cut out automatically (this is the big problem!). So to ride it legally in UK and EU just using throttle it would be classed as motor scooter (sic) and require relevant driving licence , motorbike compliant helmet, insurance etc. I am travelling to the EU where (at least some EU countries) are more proactive about enforcing these laws than seems to be the case in UK (no doubt after some deaths/accidents and a susequent public outcry this will become a hot topic and the UK government will have to act and follow EU countries, and others around the world, in actually enforcing these safety laws!). I believe some people put screws in throttle to make it impossible to use at all, or some tape it up, or disable from controller etc. Whether this would be enough to comply legally I don't know. I am considering one of these and I was intending to use it mainly just using throttle so hopefully I'm wrong about the above so please correct anything I've got wrong!
Leaving a comment here as a placeholder for review, because I like this thing so much more than my Razor Ecosmart HD, because that thing would die in less than 40 minutes in a hilly area even if I walked it up hills, and if it dies it basically becomes a useless pos. if THIS bike dies, at least I can PEDAL AND walk it somewhere to charge it again. You're not going to want to buy a spare battery to switch off because the batteries are 500 bucks LOL.
There's a way to break speed as a little factory hack, so you can go from 25km/h (15m/h) to 40km/h (25m/h) but why would you do that and ruin the ride time? I guess it depends on speediness and length throughout the week for personal preference. I'm a very light girl, 125 - 130lbs or so, plus any attachments might bring it up to 140lbs 150lbs or so, I bet I can get a lot of mileage out of it.
They should have Calle dit FIDO - - -Hahaha Looks like a wee puppy dog - - ->>>>