I Bought the Cheapest and Most Expensive Electric Bike kits on Amazon
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I love how so many one star Amazon reviews have nothing to do with the product itself, like almost getting hit by cars lol.
American infrastructure be like:
Craig holding back and not beat the crap out of sean every video is a testament to what a good man he is working with the special needs 👏
You guys are awesome. It's great to see God loving men have fun.
I always appreciate when people are understanding when people are understanding about special needs, It makes learning things a lot less stressful.
Yeah, it's getting old
@@johncromwell915 Deuteronomy 22
5: The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
That was somewhat disappointing to see I'll be honest.
@@jakebarnes3054craig never meant it in the way others do, but i understand what you mean
Craigs bike was still doing pretty good considering hes probably around 250 lbs. That motor was moving him pretty quick.
it was berly put together when the other one just had to have the front wheel and handle bard attached 🤦
He should have hooked up a nitrous bottle to the motor. It would have hit 70mph easily. It's a shame he didn't think about that.
Craig has definitely trimmed down, but physics are physics. It bugs me every race, no matter the vehicles.
Imagine two motors
Craigs bike was dead when he got there😂😂
On Amazon, I just ignore the 5 stars and 1 stars. 2-4 star reviews seem more honest/truthful.
When I was in fourth / fifth grade in Portland I delivered 30 afternoon papers and a big Sunday morning paper and bought me a large skinny wheel 3-speed cruiser bicycle. I could stand on the pedals and coasting down the hill in the middle of the road swinging the bike left and right with my arms in the air until one day I ended up in the ditch. My family also delivered the morning paper until we made enough to buy our first color TV for the living room. That route was done in a station wagon as it was a cold snowy winter.
Crazy stuff, idk how we all used to pedal around as kids. I know for a fact nowadays that I wouldn't ride without electric and normal bikes aren't thrilling because I can't pick up a decent speed
You need to pump up the forks for them to work properly and the brakes need to be bed in
Sean your fork is facing in the wrong direction 🤣
Edit: I see you found it out by yourself
Craig you need a torquearm!
Is it
LMFAO
I know right it was killing me😂😂
*Everything you said about being a paperboy is wrong, and it’s the worst job ever. You do have a boss. You can’t work whenever you want, papers must be delivered by 6am. There’s no bikes all car. You must work every day, you can’t call out. You have to pick up papers by 3-4 am. You make anywhere from 130-250 a week depending on how many papers you have( literally like $7 an hour). You do get tips added onto that but only like 15% of people do that. And unless you are in a rich neighborhood your only getting $1-$4 a month per house that tips. If someone calls in and says their paper was late or not delivered you get docked $1-$2.50. And worst part is they take out no taxes because your an independent contractor. So come tax time you have to pay $1500-2000 per route. And some papers (like the one I worked at) you have to deliver to their doorstep. So every house you have to get out and run (walking will make you late) up to the house and back. So your spending 1-2 hours running every night, plus however long your driving. There is only one reason you should ever take this job. And that’s Christmas tips. You can get $800->$2000 in tips. Pick up a route in November (there are literally always routes open) around thanksgiving you put bulk Christmas postcards in with the paper with printed out little thank you messages and your name and address on it. Then checks just start pouring in. But don’t do it unless you get a rich town. Otherwise tips included your making 13 an hour.)*
how about go be a buss boy and make 2x that or serve and make 5x that lol.
Damn that sucks I had no idea
Now be a comedian
No 1 asked
Depends on where, I did a rural route, I was self employed, sure I had a contract to fulfill but every contactor does, no matter what business your in. You can negotiate your contract, I did about 70 miles 250 papers a night, bout 700 a week plus tips back when gas was under two bucks. Cops never messed with me because they see the blinking light and know your just doing your job. Basically drove around country roads smoking weed and jamming out with the dog and a buddy or two
Craig whiskey throttled that bike on the couch.🤣🤣🤣🤣 damn that was hilarious.
Craig's bike also has settings for top speed that weren't modified. You can do that by pressing the two arrow keys and pressing the m key until you hit p14 and set it to about 30-35 amps.
ytep, doesnt help he weighs mroe
@@any1alive voltage controls top speed, amps controls how quick it will hit top speed becuase there is more current (watts) being drawn at higher amps so yes, it would have helped alot in this situation
@@aaron092000 that's not how voltage or amps work at all, the only thing that affects top speed or acceleration is the total power output and the gearing. you can increase the power output via increasing voltage OR amps. current is not measured in watts either, but power is.
@@zacharyc6549thank you, current is amps right?
@@zacharyc6549 my explanation was meant for a gearless hub motor, I'm aware that you can also control the speed with gear ratios too. I'm pretty sure voltage controls speed, acceleration is controlled by the current or amps being put into the motor.
Craig is such a great addition to the channel!
As an ebike mechanic I found this very entertaining!!!
For what it's worth most ebikes use bofeng motors with different branding on them.
Awesome vid guys!!!
Hello! I think i wanna invest in one of these. What would be a good e bike around the 1000 dollar range?
Yes most are Bafang motors but it is the controller amp rating and volt that makes the difference in speed and power in their class E bike
@@kyshawntv6285quite late, but unless you're looking at a used ebike... please save up for something decent. Even just the electronic system matters. Like, you can upgrade your groupset, wheels, fork and whatever, but if you buy an ebike for a thousand dollars new, you'll get a system that may or may not be supported by anyone in a year or two. Bosch, Shimano and Bafang are three household names for ebike systems which will be supported for quite a while. As an example: the Bosch classic system is more than 10 years old at this point, but you can still get parts, because they didn't make major changes until like 2021 or 2022. So let's say you buy a used bike with that old system, as long as you know what you're looking for, you can get a new motor, display, battery, cables, etc etc without running into trouble. And I've seen bikes with that system rolling into our shop with 25k miles on them. That's always something to consider
Not the ones i've got. Both were noisy and weak as hell compared to the branded Bafang i had. Both prebuilt. But maybe i'm just unlucky because they're a step up from the even worse.
this one just struck me as really funny. I was laughing out loud . Craig is such a goos sport 🙂
It was all well and good until he tightened his stem bolts to 40nm xd
Craig has a great sense of humor, and superior mechanical ability. He may have lost but not by much. :)
Sean teaches Craig about electricity. Never thought I would have seen that. 😁
Who's Greg?
@@phillipsmith1489
Greg!
He's that one guy with the beard.
Sometimes people mistakenly call him "Craig", but his real name is actually Greg.
It's confusing until you get it all figured out like I have. 🤷♂️
And the results are...shocking...
@@straybullitt CRAIG
It’s true his real name is Greg but we all call him Craig
No, you bought an expensive Ebike COMPLETE and a cheap Ebike KIT. Your title is wrong.
oh shut up
@nathanmcleay1791 he's right.
A Complete 48v 750w ebike vs a 48v 1000w hub motor kit?
One of these things is not like the other. It's certainly not comparing the most powerful kit vs the least.
As prices vary between sellers, buying the most expensive product is not going to guarantee better performance.
@@brianlittleforest631is bro done yapping
@@0_o-d2t2enow both of them are whining 😅
If you really think about it, both are EBike kits because you still have to put them together at the end of the day. Stop yappin
1 minute into the challenge Sean is talking to the camera about NINJAS & Craig is quietly inventorying his parts.
That's because Sean knows the age/maturity of his audience and panders like a pro. I mean, who doesn't want to be a ninja more than an inventory guy in a dress?!
Best of both worlds
That's nothing new between these two. Let's see if Sean filled Craig's one drawer of peanut butter cups again lol
Never fails 🤣
Yeah I used the same kit for my first emtb and it was pretty great. I was able to go 30mph basically all the time. Only complaint I had was the weak connectors and the lack of torque. But overall it was a great entrance to e-bikes and in all costed me about $600 to build the bike (I used a cheap $98 steel Walmart bike)
I made 2 bikes and bought parts separately. The 1st one was on a 20"bike with a 1500w wheel. The torque on the smaller wheel was dangerous until you learn to ease in to it, I ended up on my back a couple times. The 2nd was a 26" mountain bike I bought from Walmart with same parts it was much easier to control and a bit faster. Top speed was 32mph on the 20" and 38mph on the 26". Both still run great and my 13 year old love the 20". We go riding all the time together and have a blast. Peace
@@manhandlerthat torque on the 20 inch wheel sounds fun AF lol, kinda jealous because my 1000w bike is safe enough to go full throttle from a stop.
The look that girl face Craig was priceless! She looked down and probably thought you were an insane homeless guy lol
I love how Sean has the dedicated monitor just for all his desktop files 😄
😂 yeah
DIY kits is the way to go. I took a pink razor pocket mod scooter and put a eBay 1800w motor kit and a 48v 20ah battery in it. Does 30mph, wheelies, 40 miles of range, and cost me about $600. And it looks completely stock
How long ago did you buy that kit? Seems like the batteries are more expensive than anything right now. Which kit did you order off eBay? I don't trust most of those companies specs
@@IQWhiteBearhonestly Chinese batteries get a bad rep, there are companies that actually make good ones the issue is people hoping to get realllly cheap ones and think it’s gonna be safe. I’d say never spend less than $200 for a 48v battery, and never spend less than $500 for 52v, $700 for 72v.
first I bought a Lectric XP 2 fr 999.99. ITs ok, but Im too big for it. Then I got NBpower 2000 watt hub motor (around 400) and 52 v 20 amp battery from Unit pac power (also around 400). Bought a used Jamis Durango 20 inch mtb for 100.00 off of fb marketplace and now cruise with no worries. Then I see they now have 5000 watt cyc mid drive for 1200 and am thinking of building that one on the Jamis.
Is it waterproof ?!?! 🙉
@@tuilajimmy yes I rode through the rain and everything
This challenge is a challenging challenge that challenges these challengers
Yes
I assume that charger is a standard 2 Ampere charger so that battery need at least 6 hours to charge up from zero to 100!
Make those look like actual motorcycles and go to one of motorcycle fans meetings. Amount of laugh should be huge :D
Did this with a moped once (legally blind so no motorcycle license, and before they started requiring to have a license) , then traveled from south fla to the alabama line round trip. Had a bunch of local biker guys wanting to see me at daytona bike week so I stopped in on the way out. Was a lot of fun. :)
4:51 This is why I don't buy those e-bike kits anymore lol. "It's always something." I bought 3 kits they all died within 1 week or 6 months.
I bought a RadPower RadRover and it lasted 2 years before the LCD panel died, preventing the bike from turning on. Which might have been an easy fix if I could have figured out how to isolate the problem. Instead it took a total of 2 MONTHS to fix the issue, because every new part takes about 2 weeks to ship. Really bad. It's over a week for them to even get to your order because they just sit in queue with nobody working on it, or they only process and ship in batches once a week rather than individual orders.
Craig is amazing , and such a good sport !
Just a little bit of "trivia" here: The latest Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 that was passed, which included tax rebates for electric vehicles, did not include the E-BIKE Act. 😞 Which would have given people a 30% tax rebate on an e-bike purchase. That means you would actually be given $600 for a $2000 e-bike purchase. It was a missed opportunity to significantly advance the "Green agenda" by tapping into the poor and lower class demographic in trading in their cars for an e-bike. Not to mention it would have strengthened our aluminum industry, which is now firing tons of people due to recession...
Please come do a challenge in the UK. I don't know what but just do it I guess? 🤷
They should do lands end to John o groats on a budget bike!! That would be mega
Nah Americas better less permits for your permits
tf
Wtf is this comment
See who can eat the most fish and chips. Lol
6:23 by God, that desktop management is something to behold.
(07:45) By design, the "suspension" is supposed to be mostly left up to the fat tires. Think what it would be like with street tires!
(note: fat tires also don't fit in most city bus bike racks so mixed-mode trips (bikes + buses/trains) are out)
Sean needs to give Craig an advantage when they race. Sean is light and always has the better build
Sean: I don't think this helmet can protect me.
Also Sean: let's see how fast I can go
As a bicycle tech it is so funny to watch these guys put their bicycles together
I love these cheapest and most expensive on Amazon videos that you guys make, Keep it up brother and God bless you!
lol, Craig looked so natural slinking that blue number. Always smiling.
Love these Amazon buy vids!! Thass some awesome "Tour Duh Perrnnsylvania" action!! Craig squawnched way down to get aerodynamic on the downhill run like he was goin' for the downhill speed record, down that volcano shown on ESPN8 "The Ocho". AWESOME!! 👍
The littering at the end was hilarious 😂
So let’s get this straight.. expensive means your have to cut zip ties and cheap means you have to clip zip ties 😮😂
I have the same Voilamart motor. Literally can not live without it. I have the 48V 1000W model that gets me a tops of 32MPH on flat road. I have never peddled it. It has never failed to get me where I need to go and back. I'd say it's the best thing I ever bought. I can weigh my bike down with easily an extra 50 or 60 pounds and it does not struggle hauling me, the cheap heavy battery I got for it and the extra weight. I spent about $450 on it, the battery and a cheap bike to put it on. The only advantage the other bike had was with the fat tires.
I added that same kit to my ebike to make it dual drive and it works fantastic.Mine will go 35 mph but I keep my tires infalted near the max so it makes a diffrence on speed.I have one year and over 1k on the setup and no problems yet.
Miscellaneous & Flanigan..... What sort of mileage do you get per charge ? and how long does the battery take to recharge ? Thanks, Chris.
@@chrisvilavelha I just did 111 miles--I pedal 90% of the time---and had half he battery left on the 14 ah and 75% left on the 20h--I have well over 100 mile range--but I have 2 batteries--48v 20 ah and a 48v 14 ah--and 2 motors.Even when it was stock i did 50 miles and still had half the battery left--but I pedal a lot of the time and use the motors for hills and trails.I also keep my tire pressure high which greatly increses the range.Takes about 4 hours to charge either battery.I have never even come close to draining any the batteries and usually get several days of riding before i have to charge any of them.BTW when i pedal I am doing it with the assist on 3 so not only do I get great range--but I am getting mild long and light comfortable cardio and get to enjoy biking now because I am not exhausted.
@@chrisvilavelha My battery was a cheap blue box Cao MM battery. 48V 1000W 10AH. I can get about 15 miles on one charge, in the best conditions, long flat road and coasting when I can, or going down a hill where I can. When fully depleted it takes about 5 hours to fully charge it.
@@khronin - Thank you very much for that very comprehensive reply Flanigan ! That sort of performance is exactly what I am looking for ! Cheers from Brazil !
I'm a semi daily Ebike commuter and i got a radrover 5. It's a good daily rider and unless it's snowing i dont mind the weather either. I can take dirt trails to and from work so I avoid traffic and when i do interact with it i can filter through the shoulder of the road. All in all if you have the ability to try it you should. Even if its just a few weeks of the year it's saved me 100s on gas while still getting me to work just as fast as a car when you count traffic
For what he paid for the 1700 bike off Amazon he could have spent 300 more and got a radpower bike or an aventon or any good brand of bike. I like all E bikes just a point to hand out that a little more would've given you alot more
I know he paid 1700 for the most expensive bike, but I never herd what he paid for the cheaper bike?
A decent consumer e-bike from established sellers on the Net (Rad Power Bikes; Area 13 Bikes) is going to cost you $1600 to $2,000 for a fat tire bike or city commuter). In contrast, if you're spending $700 to $900 for a bike on Amazon, these thoughts come to mind:
- Buy at your peril,
- You get what you pay for.
- Make sure your will is up-to-date.
- There's a tool for that, a fire extinguisher.
- Who needs brakes.
- Assembly? That's a fool's errand.
- Death on wheels (not theirs, yours).
- Sorry, customer support no more.
Well THAT was fun! Cyrusher bikes usually turn out ok, but apparently support is not the best. The kit bike ran pretty well, but direct drive will be slower off the line than a 5x gear reduction motor if power levels are similar. A friend of mine has a 3T direct drive motor from an Onyx on his custom bike, and it will pull the front wheel off the ground at 30mph! Craig's battery is a Unit Pack Power, which is a good company. Three of my seven batteries are from them, and they all perform well. You can 3D print battery brackets that are surprisingly strong. Thanks for the video!
Bicycle helmets are rated at max 20mph, if I recall correctly.
I am sure they are ineffective at head and face trauma, at any speed, except walking while on carpet, in a house, while wearing elbow-pads.
I'm pretty sure their more for looks than actually providing some sorta protection, I mean I've seen them do nothing for people way more than I've seen them actually save a life
@notfiveo Yes i have the wicked E bike 60 V 20 ah for 1,999$. Goes 39 mph!!!
Saying that you don't need a license for an e-bike is not always correct. To not need a license for one you have to make sure it fits in the legal guidelines for a class 2 e-bike, then within local laws. Like where I am its 750w and 20mph max to be legal without one. Were also allowed a throttle here, but a lot of places won't allow this.
You're worried a bike Helmet won't protect your face?
I thought that was what the beard was for....
I love how he just put on the shocks completely backwards
i fixed it later lol
Nobody noticed that kp mini 150 racing bike in the background lol 😂 I have the blue one I’ll have this bike forever that’s all i can say lol 😂
I really like the idea of a fat tyre bike as ONE of my bikes, but not if it is my only option. Around my area they would be fantastic for the mixed conditions. I am so envious of the options you get in America. Here the power and type limitations make most of this impossible. We need more up to date regulations for E-bikes.
The key to building a good ebike is crime. Even in the states anything over 750 watts is a motorcycle according to federal law.
I live in **THE** place fat tire bikes were designed for. Quite literally. My closest trail system is quite literally where the fat tire bike was refined at. They're sandy river trails next door to the company (QBP/Quality Bike Products/Surly/Salsa) that popularized fat bikes, and since it's Minnesota, they also had ample access to snow.
I don't own a fat bike. They're toys. I ride practical bikes. Fat bikes are the thing to buy as a 3rd or 4th bike. I'd absolutely love to screw around with one on the trails....if I owned a car to drive it to and from the trailhead. No way in hell I'm going to put up with riding one on the road.
@@DonOblivious I use a fat tire to commute 27 miles round trip to work. I'm 6'4" 230 lbs. I need a beefy bike and my Fucare Gemini fits the bill. It's not a 4000 dollar " name brand " but it beats the heck out of my old Trek mountain bike for comfort and utility. I was going to go mid drive on the Trek but the hub motor needs less maintenance and I don't have to worry about chain issues. Each one has a place and price.
@@DonOblivious the fat tire was used in the 80s, , Iditarod bicycle race, they welded two rims together and used the klein attitude frames,
This challenge was not fair to Craig at all. He weighs more and always gets stuck with the cheapo product. LOL
I have put around 4000 miles on my volimart 1000w kit. Pretty reliable apart from the freewheel
My freewheel also went dodgy on the same kit around 2500 miles. I wasn't pedalling anyway so I just removed the chain and shifting system.
You need to put the key in the battery before it will show you anything on the charge
For their next challenge, Sean and Craig have a hunting challenge. Sean will be using the newest shotgun from Browning and to even things up, Craig gets 3 time tested weapons; a rock, a string, and a stick.
Man you put expensive bikes forks on the wrong way
When he put the forks back to front
10:19 From my experience, the readout on the battery level is always inaccurate. My old battery for 2 years still reads 1 red bar but the LCD control panel on the bike shows it's fully charged, and I can get to work and back home no problem, so the LCD is not wrong either.
Just check the battery voltage if your display is able to show it to you. I know roughly exactly what percentage my battery is at all times and the bar on the screen doesn't make any sense it shows 1 bar at 48v when that's more like 40% on a 52v battery.
you didnt buy a kit, you bought the whole bike, bit unfair...
This is some class quality content
I hope they do more e-bike videos!
I have used dozens of the Voila Mart conversion kits and was surprised the see him lose at the drag race I got a top speed between 30 to 40 mph with most builds depending on the battery used, and I was wondering did you disconnect the 750w blue wire ? doing so makes the kit run at 1000w and much faster. I found for the money you can build a great Ebike for less than $800 using their kit and a bike you have already But the heart of the build is your battery if he had used a Hailong 48v 20ah 1600w Panasonic triangle battery, the other fellow would had been in the dress.
I gotta say guys. As someone who works in the Bicycle Industry now for 15 years, (also current rebuilding a 2002 R6) and as someone who has built and worked on many Cyrushers, I cringed at every time Sean said anything Positive about that bike. Ive had batteries spontaneously go up in flames in my shop. Ive seen those forks fall apart while working on the bike and the motor is notorious for cracking. Not to mention when Craig said the Bafang motor was the top of the line, I just about spit my drink out. 😂🤣. I ride an Ebike myself (Pivot Shuttle) and my motor alone runs $2000. My battery is about $1300. You should do a challenge of getting real ebikes form a bike shop. Get a cheap and expensive ebike from a bike shop. NOT AMAZON. 🤣😁. Love your videos gents and i swear im not a Karen cry at your video. Just a Cyclist crying at your video. 🤣♥
your pro perspective is appreciated, but people will struggle to even find a bike shop in all but places where cars are generally cost more/are prohibited... making the video about whats available on amazon does make sense when thats where a major chunk of online viewers would test the waters on.
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Yeah, because like I can afford to spend $3,300 on a bike.
You seem to come over as anti-Amazon, nothing more.
what specs are the parts of your bike? im interested in hearing what is really considered a top-of-the-line motor, battery, and the rest. thanks for the info if you do get back to me!
@@Sinkktothebeat Well, My bike is running the Shimano ep8 motor and Shimano’s 725wh battery. There are only a few “high end” motors out there that you will find on high end ebikes. That being said, the Shimano is going to be the most common because is it notoriously reliable. Makes good power and it efficient. I get about 5.5 to 6 hours of hard riding on the mountain trails. Now my motor is what’s called a center driven motor which means it’s actually integrated with the crankset. The bike that Sean road in the video is a hub driven motor and as far as hub motors go, it is one of the better options out there but that’s not saying much. Hub motors have a problem with breaking their bearings, cracking the case, popping or breaking spokes and damaging the rim. It’s kind of funny on timing because one of these cyrushers came in to my shop yesterday with a spoke that was just dangling. Turns out he broke the flange on the hub motor. Now, all that being said, I cant say that these “high end” motors don’t have issues but it is rare and they are backed up with a really good warranty.
The battery switch needs to be in the on position for the battery meter to work.
You should always plug the charger into the battery, before you plug the charger into the outlet. No chance of damage to the battery that way
It's actually the other way around. If you don't plug the charger into the wall and turn it on first you get a spark more often than not because of the huge voltage gap.
Good job you should give Craig the most expensive bike the next time you do this
Fun video! Sean, have you tried the battery check button when the battery switch is on? Mine will only read that way.
Interesting to see you both take the opposite approach to riding electric bikes.
I don’t think I have. Good tip
hey can you plz do vidio whife your kayo pit bike
Awesome episode today.. Hope you'll make more adventure oriented episodes soon coz we all love adventure. Nice time ™️
The newspaper delivery part of the video was hilarious. Thanks for the laugh guys
What was unfair was one guy's bike came in box, while the other guy's was just parts he had to put on a bike. It would have been more fair for both to have either full bikes or just kits.
I've had to get more stitches from my paper route, than any other job I've had. Including 4 years of landscaping. I jumped every ditch and curb I saw, while carrying 30 pounds of newspapers.
With the battery you have to have the key turned on the lock like you would on the bike to see the amount of charge.
You can go into the settings of the screens by holding both of the arrows af the same time for 3 seconds
Craig, you should put some gears on the back wheel with the rear derailleur it will save your back wheel in the long run most of those rear end motorized come with a set of gears on them so you can still change like the bicycle and still have the back wheel
Bike messengers
21 gears and 21 gears
Ebike for weight loss - pedal out, knowing you can motor home. It's not about exercising all the time, but about doing more than you were last week.
Voilamart kits are great! I made a 1000 watt system that went almost 30 mph, and I logged in at 1000 miles of use with no problems. You do need to be a bicycle mechanic to adapt this set
I rode 5000+ km already without problems
I've got the same hub. My dad fit it onto my mountain bike because I don't know how to work on bikes beyond the basics lol. Yeah easily 30mph maybe a little bit over. I have a 52v battery which probably gives me higher top speed.
What Craig doesn’t realize is that the chain wasn’t reversed but the bike was just upside down😂
It wasn’t that it was the rotation of the wheel. It was just going to spin the wrong way if he had the polarity set normally. Reversing the polarity made it so the power was reversed and so the rotation was too. The gears were just going to be on the wrong side if he had the polarity normal
"If your motivation is to lose weight, why are you buying a bike that goes by itself"...you can actually pedal an e-bike. And it makes longer easy/medium pedaling trips possible, which is better than pedaling short distances hard. Literally what e-bikes are good for.
For a person who is seriously overweight an electric bike can be their best option to start exercising. Rider still gets about 60% of the exercise of a regular bike. You can buy a Radrover for the same $. They are located in Seattle, have thousands of bike sales and honor their warranty.
Also, Craigs motor is only On/off. No gearing whatsoever. The other is a Geared Hub. Way more torque.
I would argue the opposite actually if they reprogrammed Craigs controller. I have the same brand and looks the same size motor. I pop wheelies electric only. I don't know how much torque you want more than that.
actually the hub motor produces more torque because it has a lower KV ratio. geared motors are inferior and cheaper.
hub motor: more torque than any combustard failgen or geared drive
@@Blox117 The geared hub has more torque. I own bikes with each of these motors. I live in Colorado springs at 7000'. The geared hub blows away the old "magic pan" style motor on hills. Gears beat no gears every time. Of course the mid drive motor kills anything that is at the rear wheel. Why? Because you now have the gearing of the complete drive train. That is why every expensive (5-10K) electric mountain bike has a mid drive motor.
Glad you like your bike but don't mislead people.
@@finerbiner sorry bud, you were misled. perhaps you should do a little more reading before commenting
commentary from craig’s side would’ve been awesome. maybe for the next video?
Overall performance was pretty similar between the two. Try the most expensive pre-built vs the most expensive DIY/individual components. A 72v DIY e-bike will smoke anything off the shelf.
What kind of tip speed do they have? And do they have good torque for hills?
@@ChristopherJones16 get about 50 to 60mph running a 72v kit and yes 72v is more than enough to pull you up any hill
Who would want to be doing 50mph+ on a bike with brakes and tyres only designed for 25mph?
You were too kind with the dress you picked out. Lol
Craig bike would be faster you have to go into sw900 parameters and adjust top speed , you can change many things there the kph to mph,
Look up sw900 settings on TH-cam
Never witnessed someone wage war against a bike before while chillaxin on a couch.. tough to watch
Great video 👍🏻
As a bike mechanic, you two are lucky to be alive after riding those piles!!! 😆 ✌️❤️🙂🇨🇦
Is there even any hope for the suspension on the absurdly expensive one, or just straight replace?
IMAO, I wouldn't even start on it! Nothing on it is worthy of upgrades....
Working off the couch….that’s awesome 😆
That was a great video lots of fun and a good review. I bought my bike on Amazon in February 2022. I tell you is very disappointing at first I had to upgrade just about everything except for the motor controller and battery. The brakes would not stop you they were dangerously weak. I got no support at all from the manufacturer.I did this to save money but you know the saying you get what you pay for. It is now a good bike but it’s because I was willing to upgrade it customize it to my specifications. I’m also a mechanic so it was no problem installing gutter and proper equipment. If I had to do it all over again I would go to a bike shop, where I would get support if needed.
If you got a 48 volt battery I would have to say you probably got a 750 watt motor
love how they didnt notice craigs bike went 52kmh which is 32mph
but it was only going as fast as mine which was saying 28
@@BikesandBeards super wierd ay love you though
Craig might of lost the challenge, but won over Julia's smile.
Interesting how I can pedal faster on a conventional mountain bike at 250 pounds than you can on a $1700 Ebike topped out lol.
I accept your challenge, say a 10 mile run and loser buys the beer. Lol
In my state, anything over 20mph and under 30mph throttled two wheeler fall under the "small motercycle catagory" not a bicycle catagory. So yeah technically illegal without a driver's license and plate. Under 20 -> bike. Over 30 -> motercycle. Ugg reading road rules.
Hey, I bought an Amazon E bike two weeks ago, had EXACTLY the same issue with the battery charging indicator, doesn't work. They gave me a $70 credit to use on Amazon store purchases. The battery actually works, just that stupid indicator light is broken. must be the same company making these.
i think the same company makes all of them
@@BikesandBeards I got a 500 watt motor on my bike and was comparing my phones GPS speedometer app to the LCD controller which purposely max's out at 21.6mph. The bike actually steadied out at 28mph on level path.(I weigh 285lbs). Apparently you can get into the programming of these things and change that speed setting and other power settings. look forward to your next vid. 👍
Chicken fish
@@spudthegreaterusa8386 you just gotta set it up in the settings menu, remove max speed limit, set the the right amps for your conntroller and battery voltage to get max power. My diy kit is 1500w, but out of the box pulled only 500w, after setting it up does 1800w peak and 1700w sustained power.
Poor Craig was set up AGAIN. Hope he’s paid well 😂🤣
I love you guys. You all sriously bring such a smile and positive boost to my day EVERY morning you post a video for us all. Thanks. P.S. Craig was killin it in the Chick Fillet drive thru line with those curves he was rockin in that sexy dress! LOL
yeah he was
Way sexier in Pink I think for next time.
@@BikesandBeards there is a fake account trying to make money via your videos and giveaways
@@mjbeal4879 it's on every account with more than 100k subs.
Just keep reporting them and move on
@@BikesandBeards hey bikes and beards I just texted you
Actually a pretty hilarious video. People are finding rolled newspapers to this day from your excellent work 😅
For once I'd like to see Craig get the expensive one. why are you so afraid of losing?
I love Craig's voice in the drive through!!
"aww....... G dang it" I love that I'm totally using that 😂
Is a complete e-bike "an e-bike kit"? And if so, there would be higher priced e-bikes on Amazon.
Are we all just going to ignore the fact that Sean gets random text messages from someone with tasks and instructions?...
Pretty sure its God.
doesnt everybody?
I wish that I had Sean's phone number.
"Sean. Your challenge for today is to send a couple of pizza pies and cheesesteaks over to Straybullitt's house around lunchtime.
Ummm 🤔
If you are unsuccessful in prepaying for this delivery, along with a generous tip, you will be disqualified from the competition.
Good luck with your mission!"
😃
@@straybullitt hahahaha
The brake tensioner isn't adjustable?
Not sean flipping his handlebars around because the wires are tangled when he has the forks backwards lmao