Was Fallout 3 as good as I remember? - Revisiting the story, mechanics and side quests
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2019
- A short film in which I explore whether or not Tunnel Snakes actually rule. (Spoiler: they do.)
It's been over a decade since Bethesda took the reigns over on the Fallout franchise, so I figured it was time to see if they did a decent job or if I got too wrapped up in the hype at the time.
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Mod used: Fellout (www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mo...)
*Note for people who read descriptions in 2019: Went to mod the hell out of this game, then decided "nah, I'll just use the green removal one". Apparently some of the old mods might have still made it into the game, because a few characters are goddamn PALE in the face. So Idk what that's about. Just as a heads up.
Songs:
Nearly the entire Fallout 3 soundtrack
Tomorrow by Kevin Penkin (Made in Abyss OST)
Russian National Anthem
Duke Nukem Forever main theme
Vamo Alla Flamenco from the Final Fantasy IX OST
• Fallout 1 ending: the ... -Fallout 1 ending: the master kills himself by Hannumies
• Video -Fallout 3: Infamous Initial Ending (Before Broken Steel DLC) by quotetheraven90
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I really wish there was a way for the game to end with the Republic of Dave annexing the entire Capitol Wasteland.
Nice ISP meme bro.
you think there'd be a mod for it by now...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What do you mean he already took the USA
Dave approved ☝️
Seriously. The Mechanists door and the vault door was the first time I realized someone at Bethesda has a hard on for complex door animations.
Also Skyrim barrow doors
Megaton's entrance for me with the turbines pulling up the V shape door set up.
No one here remembers get smart's opening door scene? Shame.... shame
@@cordellrost4337 Oh yeah, that's a great gag! And poorly designed...
I had a similar experience since the days of Morrowind but rather than door animation its my realization that someone/s at Bethesda have a hard on for shit tier absolute garbage weapon/armor design.
Seriously finding well designed and aesthetically pleasing weapons/armour in a Bethesda game is like finding an oasis in a desert. They completely suck in that department.
What they don't tell you when they promise you the penthouse in ten penny tower is you'll have to sit through three loading screens to get to it
Lmao
@@AustinH7, Lmao
@@TheSniper9752 Lmao
Lmao
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Can we just take a moment to appreciate how you can literally wipe Megaton off the face of the Earth, and my man James just pulls the ultimate "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed?"
yeah i really appreciate how they wrote the character's decisions and reactions to make absolutely no sense at all.
@@sgtpepper91 I mean he is your dad
@@jonathankitchen7141 I would kill my son if he nuked an entire fucking city.
@@jonathankitchen7141 "man my child exploded a whole city full of people for no reason other than money, kind of disappointed ig" peak writing
@@maintainingBW I’m sure their fine
>Spends caps on repairs
>Wonders why he is broke
*This*
Trueee
*if you own Mothership Zeta you will never need to pay for repairs again
Artyom better yet if you glitch the dude in Point lookout you’ll always have a guaranteed 100% repaired item
@@reachfanatic1234 Both are good options. The alien epoxy is limited though so long term glitching the guy in point lookout is the better idea for repairing things like the guass rifle and T-51b power armour. Pretty much everything else is better just to have 100 repair skill and do it yourself.
The stuff that pisses me off is that when you dismiss a follower they walk through the entire game to get to where they normally live. I dismissed Fawkes and then I couldn’t find him. Three days later I just found his corpse. It made me so mad, he is the best follower.
How the hell did Fawkes die? I once tried to kill him and it took about 15 minutes and a good chunk of ammo. And that was while he wasn't resisting with a beam gatling gun.
I think I should honestly be afraid of what killed him....
Jake Theberge Why would you try to kill Fawkes? You evil bastard! 😆
He died because you didn't love him enough
Jake Theberge I think he got caught in some debris that the shit AI didn’t detect, like a stray car, and just sat there and a rad scorpion or something just gnawed on him till he bit the dust.
"My choices where for me to die, for Sarah to die, or for no one to die, so I picked for no one to die and instead of that making me smart, that just makes me 'not a true hero'"
10/10 Ending
bethestad writers: "sometimes my genius is... its almost frightning"
@@Helperbot-2000 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭
were*** tf that upset me lots
"TRUE HEROES BITE IT IN THE END, SALT READ A BOOK"
~God Howered
True heroes choose for themselves to die and then pay for the DLC reversing the consequences, duh.
I think they separated DC into few mini maps because of rendering problems. You can also see this problems when entering freeside and vegas in FNV
Makes it all the more embarrassing that GTA IV came out the same year as this..
Bethesda need a new better engine ffs.
@@burn5014 That's true. Also, I think Fallout 3 was supposed to be a PC game and GTA4 was for console. I knew it because recently I'm able to buy myself GTA4 and my pc suffered while I'm playing. The paint started to come off, the CPU heated up after 5 min and I had to cooled it down using my fan.
I think it was limited to 256mb ram or something like that because it had to run on PS3.
@@burn5014 yes but how much of Gta IV actually has stuff in it and isnt just set dressing
@@cmfrtblynmb02 bruh 256 mb? bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Fun fact, Harold was a character in Fallout 1 in the hub. He just had a tiny branch on his head then.
Harold was also a character in Fallout 2.
@@Lunartic_ I remember him starting to grow a branch during FO2.
What a cute baby....
@@volvob1884 what a cute baby, stomp it's head in.
s t i c k
As a Navy vet, I can confirm the accuracy of Rivet City.
With the exception that the NPCs in FO3 were not nearly miserable enough.
underrated comment lol
Bruh
As a marine and seeing Rivet city again, I agree.
would have been more immersive if they had a smoke deck with 100 npcs huddling around smoking.
@@t.j.aarons889 Does it ever get easier to navigate the ship irl?
@@zackaryganey3311 Yes, you learn tac numbers (room coordinates on the ship), memorize the fast ways to get around, and memorize alternate routes. For me, it took about a week on a ship to learn my way around, and fire/abandon ship drills taught me more of the ship
"Imagine being named Button." My first character in f3 was named button, after the character button bright from the wizard of Oz books. He blew up Megaton trying to kill off Moira, she survived.
Oof
Moira ran out of caps, the useless bitch. Oh and fuck her rude shop guard too! 😎
You could have blown have her head off. Otherwise she is imortal
Been there buddy
One of the best parts of Fallout 3 for me was leaving the metro and to see the warzone and trenches around the capital building. It's such a striking image that I doubt could be replicated in any other FO location. They nailed it. If only there was a never ending BoS vs Super Mutant battle raging it would be perfect.
Any other fo location? You realise the vast majority of people are not American right?.. I don’t feel anything when I see American government buildings in ruins. Why would I?.. US has been anything but the good guy for a LOOOONG time. Would you be sad to see the Kremlin destroyed?..
@@burna8753 what the fuck do other people have to do with my personal experience with a game?
Go fuck yourself with your self righteousness.
I'd sit back and watch the endless war and smoke up lol.
Not a great game but fighting super mutants in front of and inside the capital building was fun
Couldn't you spawn them in with console commands? I never repurchased fo3 when I got my own laptop but in fonv I could spawn in all kinds of stuff all over the map and it would re-spawn every few days.
Made it a lot of fun after I completed a play through to just position whatever factions units all over the map fighting at whatever locations to reflect who I favored in the locations/ bolstering the number of enemies in a certain location.
I wept gently when he said he traveled to Minefield for a bed when theres literally free beds in the Megaton common room
yeah, you can pretty much make a BOS anywhere you want in this game. i've been known to have multiple stash spots that i hooked up nicely by throwing down guns and food and more guns... just to make it immersive for me.
there is a bed under the bridge next to the super duper mart or inside the super duper mart that was my base for a while. then i moved to the mechanist's base. there there is a bed and a workbench too and the caravan stops nearby
Those beds are always owned for me..
@@koroplays3200 I think they're all marked as owned except for one. Same thing with the Rivet City common room (middle level, where you usually find the bratty kid and the alcoholic mother)
you have your own house in megaton in the left corner when you enter
"He did not follow in his father's footsteps"
Damn right I didn't, I'm not gonna kill myself when there is a better alternative (aka Fawkes).
@@planescaped yeah that was so dumb. your dad is supposed to be some scientific genius and doesn't even get the idea in his head to play along with the Enclave until he is presented a better opportunity to kill Autumn.
U can only do the alternative when u have dlc
I have the GOTY edition i never said i didn't have it
Also did you know you can eat the sweetroll before the bully trys to take it
@@StirlingSilver Who the hell would have Fallout 3 vanilla only in 2019 when the GOTY copies are all that are ever sold now?!
@@firestarter6488 xbox.
James was a fucking moron. So was the Enclave. The Enclave sees scientists trying to clean water, Dad's a fucking retard and can't do it, so instead of working on it alongside scientists with superior tech and resources, he decides to unleash his magnum opus - a machine that just fucking kills whoever tries to use it.
The Ant-Agonizor can actually be rehabilitated if you ask around and find out her backstory.
Too bad it’s hidden so deeply with absolutely nothing pointing to hubris comics, and that being the ONLY example of such a thing in the game.
@@EmperorAmbrose I always thought of it as an easter-egg.
My first playthrough in 2008 I exited the vault (intending to play evil), immediately blew up megaton and meandered over to tenpenny tower. I was wondering near tenpenny tower and came across a gas station with a hidden vault that led to tranquility lane. I completely skipped the downtown DC part and stumbled into tranquility lane completely by accident. This was the most awe inspiring moment in my 30+ years playing videogames.
That happened my first time as well lol
Remember when we were intrigued by synths and hyped about what was going on in the Boston Commonwealth? Yeah... good times.
oof..
speaking of the Boston Commonwealth, there's a settlement that needs your help. I'll mark it on your map.
*_B A B E_*
@@tahabashir3779 First and most essential mod of FO4: a mod that lets you kill the Preston Garvey.
Yeah but you can play fo4 FOREVER!!! Isn’t that what fallout is all about?
Just doing radiant quests and having four different options to say yes to anyone?
Oh sorry, three yes and a sarcastic comment that is also yes but ‘spiced up’
Something in fallout 3 has always bothered me: After rescuing your dad, you do not have the options to explain why you left. "After you left they killed Jonas everyone was trying to kill me." Its like your character just forgets the worst night of their life.
I know I'm replying to a comment over a year old but... The real main character was the Dad really, the main character is just a person running around having others get the stuff to actually do something. The only time the player was ever the main character was with Autumn, who could be dealt with by three speech checks that don't really that high a number.
@@coronin8587 The story happens at the player here, hbomberguy said so.
Loool just found your comment on hbombermans video
@@TheBreakingBenny hbomberguy could say anything. It doesn't mean it's automatically right
@@visassess8607 …Can't say the story feels engaging, especially when I come around to play through it myself.
"Garza's heart condition requires 5 stimpacks to heal"
Made me think of some video about how stimpacks and other similar video game "insta-heal" health packs would actually work in real life... 5 stimpacks would be the LAST thing Garza's heart would need lol
I recommend shoddycast video on stimpacks.
Everytime you shoot up a Stimpak you SHIT YOUR PANTS!!
Fun fact that answers a lot of the "Why are there still kids in Little Lamplight?" and such questions:
The game was originally set to be 20 years after the bombs fell, but was changed late into development to be 200 so that they could fit in B.O.S and The Enclave. Rather than redo the dialogue and such, they just kept everything as it was and added a zero. Bethesda at its finest!
So many issues would have been solved if they just kept it at 20. Gotta keep up that marketability!
no fucking way. that would've been COOL
nope, false fact
@@slash_86 Whether it's confirmed or not, it's clear that at least some of the game was made with the view that the bombs dropping was a more recent event.
Just off the top of my head:
- Lamplight kids
- Megaton construction happening when one of Megaton's elderly residents was a kid
- references to the Naval Institute (a war/pre-war organisation) by living characters in Rivet City
- class-based/foreign accents that should have been homogenised out over 200 years but haven't like Irish Moriarty or upper class Tenpenny
- scavenging prewar food/drink and the overall scrappiness of society compared to say the more organised factions of FNV
Obviously so much stuff in the game was built on top of that with the explicit view that the bombs dropped much earlier so the end result is a game which hints at being set earlier but officially is not.
My main issue with that theory (that I know is mostly true) is that the Lone Wanderer is 19 when you get to the wastes. So your dad, and all the adults in your vault would be pre-war. I could accept that Vault Tec had people go in the vaults before the war, but you'd expect more older npcs to talk about the world pre-apocalypse
Ive put hundreds of hours into fo3 and i still get lost in rivet city
Joshua Reed same
Try getting back out of the Deathclaw Sanctuary after getting Vengeance. I couldn't even do it without the local map.
This makes me feel a lot better lmfao
People don't know how to use local map
Yeah I can relate
"I've never been the type to spurn a game for its graphics unless it's a brand new games that boasts about them"
*16X THE DETAIL INTENSIFIES*
rick jenks omg u should be a comedian
@@statikshotz9558 many thanks
I am personally offended by the blue sky mod. The sky in the DC area is always this strange green tint. That's just how it is.
@@hypothalapotamus5293 Nowadays yes, after 200 years of no polution emitted to the atmosphere the sky would be pretty fucking blue.
@@hypothalapotamus5293 Where the fuck do you live?
The mid-game difficulty drop is nothing compared to how ridiculously easy the game becomes after Mothership Zeta. You come back with a thousand insta-melt future guns and power armor.
Please don't forget that back then it was really hard to play the game with decent draw distance.
You might joke how the enemies ignore their friends dieing but i remember being shot by enemies i couldn't see because of low draw distance.
It was 2008, it definitely was not hard to have the draw distance being further than the detection radius of enemies.
@@visassess8607try a normie gpu like the 8400GS 😂
@@visassess8607Not for Bethesda.
NPCs don't know the surroundings by seeing it on a screen, so draw distance is irrelevant for them. You even recognize this yourself when you say you got shot by an enemy outside of your draw distance.
"A lot of the writing in the main story is just some of the worst in the game." (51:55-51:58)
There is a good reason for this. It's name is Emil Pagliarulo. He became Bethesda's lead writer when Ted Peterson left after _Oblivion,_ and the quality of writing in their games has taken a sharp nosedive ever since. He's also the self-congratulatory "genius" behind the labotomized "yes, no, maybe" dialogue options in _Fallout 4._
The only thing he ever wrote well was the Dark Brotherhood questline in _Oblivion._ But even then, he purposely ignored or retconned a lot of the Dark Brotherhood lore already established in order to write what he wanted to, instead of writing in such a way as to accommodate and take advantage of the lore.
If you get him working on small or guild quests, Emil absolutely shines! Just keep him on a short leash and force him to stay within the boundaries unless he can _add to_ the lore, not rape it. But he is absolutely a terrible lead writer for an entire game. And he should definitely be kept far away from game design. That is very clearly not his forte.
The quality of writing (and pretty much everything else, but I digress...) was always dogshit, sorry.
Oblivion was horribly written.
@@talesfromtheclassroom I wouldn't say Oblivion was horribly written. It wasn't the best, but it certainly wasn't horrible. Where Oblivion suffered, in my opinion, was in the technical limitations of its engine (they should have opted for anyone one of the far more capable engines available at the time), which drove the writers to have to retcon the lore in a lot of places, especially where the Imperial City as well as Cyrodiil as a whole are concerned.
True. The main story of Fallout 3 wasn't that memorable. I liked the broken steel questline more than 3's main questline. But still I think 3's questline was still original. 4 just took 3's story and reversed the role. Father/mother-son drama. In 3 it was finding your father and in 4 it's finding your son. In 3 your father was good while in 4 your son is evil. The best part of Fallout 4 was its power Armor, customisation, map,dlc and lastly the BoS main questline which is my favourite of Fallout 4.
@@talesfromtheclassroom As a writer, I can deftly rebuke your opinion by saying you simply didn't it "get it", especially not for Fallout 3.
@@bud389 no you can't. I 'm a writer too, now what.
hope you realize that when you let the ghouls into tenpenny tower they kill everyone
The group claiming racial abuse are actually the racists and abusers... NO WAY!
BC not cool
It's possible to kick out the bigots and move the ghouls in living in peace with the ones who don't care about ghouls living in TP Tower.
@@brian8484 even the ones who didnt care about ghouls living there get killed. if you let the ghouls move in, they will kill whatever residents are there
@Username yuh yuh
i remeber when i was younger my sister had the game. I was pretty shocked about the whole thing my sister didnt let me play but when she had to go something I would run to her room and play and honestly this game just has a place in my heart everytime i see it
43:38 Harold is a unique character that dates back to the original Fallout game. He was in Fallout 2 as well and it is actually amazing Bethesda put him in Fallout 3 in his final phase of existence, since they otherwise didn't do a very good job at capturing the writing style and humour from the Interplay games
He's covered both 1 and 2 so he knows this by now
@@bevvvy1374 he covered them after making this video
This game had the best investigative dialogue.
"Have you seen seen my father?"
"I did see an old man once... I think he went north."
Castlevania II levels of dialogue. At least that one had an excuse.
"Have you seen a middle aged white guy lately?" "Yes, I know exactly who you are talking about and where to go next. I've marked it on your map."
@@cookieface80 People are forced to pay more attention to that waypoint thingy that they don't notice anything around him, like that Liberty Prime robot one or two idiots apparently missed. Is Three Dog dead? No worries! Just keep on going, the game isn't unwinnable!
@@TheBreakingBenny you watched the hbomberguy video, I like that video, your room temp iq comment I don’t like.
@@nickbrowning3270 I mentioned it because of the fact that two let's players mentioned in that video said that Liberty Prime always was there and you never see him. Hbomberguy counters by saying that they must be idiots for apparently not noticing Liberty Prime to begin with. Though in the end, it's idiotic to let the waypoint keep someone from watching their surroundings.
"What's next, I'll fall into a coma for 60 years and I'll wake up with my son being the main villain???"
Nice burn.
@Timothy Dexter Huh? Where did you see all of that?
@Timothy Dexter Okay, done. It's a garbage story with garbage writing.
@Timothy Dexter Nice job did you pull that out your ass?
@Timothy Dexter That is a theory but it is a really stupid and unjustified one
@Timothy Dexter it's a garbage story and the writer is an incompetent moron who intentionally made the story stupid and shallow (his own words: "keep it simple, stupid")
he should be fired immediately and fo4 deleted from life
I really like the first part of the main plot, looking for father. I was genuineley curious and wanted answers (unlike Fallout 4 when I didn't really care about the son), but the second part was notably less interesting. New Vegas was the exact opposite - first part with benny and revenge/answers was so-so (almost a macguffin to get you started and direct you towards the strip), but then when you get into the faction politics amd struggles and hoover dam and everything, it's great.
AMD struggles are certainly a fascinating story.
i personally didnt care too much about the tracking benny down, however i did read the documents that you could find in the second town which atleast piqued my interest enough to not take too long doing side quests on my way to vegas
I found vegas to be so boring I virtually find it unplayable...though never the less I pushed through and did it with every faction and was so disappointed, I tried it again a second d play through on each faction thinking it was just me and still I disliked it... I hated the map, I despised the locations and I disliked the pointless characters and I found the over all mission to be dull and not interesting... 3 was the complete opposite, awesome map, fun characters, locations were interesting and told a story themselves and the overall story was far more engaging but extremely short ....
@@matthewthomas7674sounds like a skill issue
@@matthewthomas7674 this is why we tell women not to drink while theyre pregnant
One of the things I adore about this game over the others was how many quests involve people trying to preserve/find stuff from history and the old world. Finding the Stradivarius for Agatha, finding all the documents for Abraham Washington, gathering the Nuka Cola Quantum for Sierram, all the people that you can sell the Abraham Lincoln memorabilia to, and finding the intact Pre War Books for the Brotherhood. It really spoke to my inner history nerd and also made me realize that something was missing in Fallout 4 and New Vegas. That is, people trying to preserve and learn from the past. Just because the world blew itself up doesn't mean everything from it was without value.
In F4 the Institute, and to a more selective extent, the Brotherhood are constantly trying to gather old-world tech.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Yeah, but they're only interested in technology. Not things like the arts or history
@@bleachmaniac18 oh wait i just remembered! The crazy Nuka Cola lady from Fallout 3 returns in Fallout 4 Nuka World, and she is obsessed with history. There you go.
Hell, even the Minutemen are technically big history fans, persuing the ideal of a stable US gov.
I know what you mean, feels like FO3 has more sightseeing.
@@rottenburrito7277 but that's maybe why i can't connect to fallout 3. I'm not american, to me, a ruined washington doesn't mean as much as it does to someone who learnt to recite some pledge of allegiance everyday and worship american symbols (the bell, the capitol, former presodence, the flag, the actual paper the constitution was written on etc)... to americans these are mythologized artefacts, like religious relics in a catholic church. To me these are merely the objects americans are obsessed about... so... seeing washington destroyed meant nothing to me.
"The tecnology was not there in 2008"
Nether in 2019 with that engine
according to bethesda that engine is fine lmao what a joke right
@@user-zz5xx4ld1r going into the 2020's with that rusty piece of shit. Jesus!
@@user-zz5xx4ld1r - It just works.
SIXTEEN TIMES THE MALFUNCTIONS
@@user-zz5xx4ld1r The Engine itself isn't the problem. That's like telling Ubisoft to dump Anvil Next 2.0 after looking at Watch Dogs 1 and Assassin's Creed Unity's performance and nothing else.
The fact of the matter is that older engines like Source and Unreal still exist in updated forms today. The problem is that Bethesda doesn't update the Creation Engine significantly and optimize their tools and plug ins. In addition, Creation is the only engine that's really designed to interact with world in the way Bethesda wants (like applying physics to so many individual objects) and allow for a lot of modability
Here is a Reddit Comment explaining a little more
A lot of people seem to blame either partially or entirely the choice of engine for the issues seen in Morrowind through Fallout 76. While it is true that the engine used for Morrowind, Gamebryo, is aging and is not used as much as it used to be, there are many stable and quality games made with the engine.
Gamebryo is based off of an engine called Netimmerse. The Creation engine is based off of Gamebryo. So, to look at the history of the engine used in Fallout 76, we need to look at the history of Netimmerse and Gamebryo. Here are a few games created using either Netimmerse or Gamebryo, all of which are rock solid stable and (relative to a typical BethSoft game) bug free:
Bully: Scholarship Edition by Rockstar Vancouver. Freedom Force by Irrational Games. Civilization IV by Firaxis Games. Rift (MMORPG) by Trion Worlds.
Divinity II by Larion Studios. Catherine by Atlus. This list is varied by type of game, style of game, and developer's country of origin, and yet none of these games experience bugs and core instability problems as seen in BethSoft games. Now, people might say the physics are all wonky in BethSoft games as well. BethSoft does not write their own physics engine, they license a physics engine called Havok. Here is a list of games that use Havok Physics and do not experience the issues as seen in BethSoft RPGs: The Dark Souls series by FromSoftware. Every game produced by Valve, including the reigning physics king, Half Life 2. The Uncharted series by Naughty Dog. Wolfenstein: The New Colossus by MachineGames. Monster Hunter World by Capcom. A full list (there are hundreds) can be found here. I think it is clear that the underlying engine is not the issue with the glitched physics, the broken game mechanics, and bugged questing system. Games from RPGs to FPSs use the engine and systems that BethSoft use. It's time to stop shifting the blame from BethSoft's tools and start shifting the blame to BethSoft themselves. They managed to cobble together a success with bugs for Morrowind, and because they achieved success despite the bugs, they seemed to have never bothered rewriting their systems in order to improve them. It's not Gamebryo. It's not Havok. It's laziness or incompetence on the side of Bethesda Softworks.
When you finish the game with neutral karma, there's that really awkward silence during the end sequence.
Yeah that's a 2/10 for me, had that not been in the game it could've been an amazing game, too ad they fucked it up.
ryoandr what do you mean?
@@nickgaetano3510 just watch th-cam.com/video/b7hCJhkxS1o/w-d-xo.html
they didn't even bother with some lines about inner conflict, balance or such think.
Oh yeah. I totally forgot about that.
ryoandr goddamn centrists
One thing I will always remember was entering the Enclave alone, persuading the president to give up and blow himself up, and then emerging to see Dogmeat and Fawkes, who was now wielding a laser chain gun he DEFINITELY did not have when I entered, and just watching them joyously cut through the enemies to reunite with me.
It was extremely surprising and kind of amazing. I don’t remember what made it extra special, like- maybe I had been all alone for a while or had dismissed them earlier, I can’t remember.
Either way, awesome memory.
"persuading" is generous, its more like "kill urself plz" "oh ok"
If you're going to nuke Megaton, you should do it at night to get the full instant sunrise effect. (But the Megaton house is much less annoying because the Tenpenny Tower one has three loading screens to get into it.
"Getting attacked by an entire state" - Arkansas firing at you
holy shit why did i wheeze
Can we mention that he out-sniped Arkansas with a 10mm?
"Have you come to say goodbye?"
"Yes"
*BLAM BLAM*
Goddamn, what a legend.
Goodblam.
Stepping out the vault is one of my favorite moments in all of gamimg.
I've been watching your vids for the past 2 days & I love these look backs on games. Nowadays I don't game as much but I still love gaming culture so it's cool that you basically give an idea of what the game is like while I'm cleaning or whatever.
"The lockpick is located in the ruins of the Bethesda offices"
me: ha, thats a solid joke
*Enter Bethesda Office East*
me: wait wha-
Bethesda Softworks was founded in Bethesda, Maryland (thus the name) which is just NW of DC. So it's a meta easter egg.
Rivet city difficult to navigate? I'm getting flash backs of trying to find Joseph in the main chamber at Little Lanplight.
Going through the mutants gives you more xp.
Hell yea
ive played for years since I was 14 and im 24 now I still get lost there lol every fucking time
Little thing but I like how Tenpenny literally lives at the top of an ivory tower. It's not subtle or anything but it fits for such a pure evil character disconnected from society
I actually liked the green tint for some reason, so much it felt like something was missing when fallout 4 came out
For some reason even though it’s not a very pretty game, I changed the HUD in New Vegas to green just to bring back that vibe.
The Salt Factory: "and lost the collectors edition bobble head because i actual have..."
me: "1 intelligence"
The Salt Factory: " ...10 iq."
me: : (
what a lucky bastard
me: shut the fuck up
INT doesn't exist in FO3
@@hayaokakizaki4463 what are you saying
Hayao Kakizaki yes it’s does lol 1:35
"The whole thing is a big mess of grey infrastructure"
Thank god you didn't join the Navy.
@@beanboy9029 the only color you'll see on the inside of a ship is grey walls everywhere.
Yeah. Guy is upset because the interior of a ship looks like the interior of a ship. What a maroon.
#shotsfired
@@1MoTimeRound thanks man
Yeah he is dumb
I was in my late teens when I played this. It formed my earliest memory of thinking "Wow, this is stupid" with regards to a video game plot.
have you played new vegas?
@@Helperbot-2000 Yes? Why?
I remember this being my first adult game, I was at my first real job ever and coming home to smoking weed and playing this all night when I got home was 100% the best thing ever, and the fact it came out in October it made those cold November nights a lot of life and I'll never forget that feeling.
"he was trying to purify all of the water along with your mother" has a very weird ring to it.
I keep having to re-listen to that part because it sounds like he's trying to purify the water and also purify your mother.
Is my mom a water supply? Is her water tainted?
Moms water broke and he wanna drink her
Considering you're what popped out of her, it's safe to assume she is indeed tainted
@@ambiintro7110 r/holup
look at call me Kevin’s fallout 3 character, it was clearly tainted
70% water. Makes sense to me
The 'Brotherhood members' you saw where outcasts who distrust every outsider even more than the main Brotherhood.
Slurm Mc Kenzie the brotherhood outcasts are better than the brotherhood of steel. Fight me.
@@0z372 time and place traitor!
@@0z372 Elder Maxson actually reunited the outcasts and the Brotherhood when he took over
@@0z372 i agree
@0 Z Why? Because they're more edgy?
In 2008 it was truly an amazing feeling to come out of the vault after all these years of waiting for a new Fallout game after f2. But since then and after New Vegas, every time I think about this game, it hurts so much to see so many missed opportunities.
I agree about the section regarding exploring the city. Very buggy and basically a maze, but lots of good loot if you're methodical enough to clear it.
Salt Factory: "You wanna hear what a nut sounds like in musical form?"
Halo fans: "There is another"
Indeed, easily one of if not the best. Though goddamn the music they play in fable in the preview b4 the starting menu will always be my favorite
Skyrim : « P a t h e t i c »
*Halo Reach main theme intensifies*
Halo 3 main menu
@@ragingnobody7143 Halo 3 and Reach both had amazing main menu themes for different reasons. Another one that invokes strong nostalgia is MW2.
22:00 Actually, she can be dissuaded - find Hubris Comics in the maze that is the DC ruins and inside you'll find a terminal. On this terminal is some fanmail from before the war, in which a fan complains that the AntAgonizer was underutilized and could potentially be redeemed. If you've read this terminal, a new option will appear when you're dealing with her and you can talk her down.
You can also get some special dialog with Moira if you do Survival Guide while wearing the Mechanist Costume ;)
Welp a trip to the wiki to find out what the special dialogue is has just saved me an install xD
Also if you confront the synth you can ask to be the one to kill the old man, tell the old man who he is and he’ll give you a really nice perk. Right after you tell him and get the reward, kill him and report back to the synth and he’ll give you another sweet reward.
It also lets you stay neutral karma that way. Guess making the right choice but scamming the bad guys before killing them is a bit questionable.
I still remember my first time leaving the vault.
After all that time in the claustrophobic tunnels of Vault 101, I finally emerged into the sunlight and open air and saw... not much.
My laptop could barely run the game so all I saw was some ruined houses and blank hills. And then I got spammed by the notifications for the DLC quests.
Tenpenny tower does not have a good ending when you go back after a few days you'll find that the gouls have killed all of the inhabitants.
Strange Boy God, you’re an idiot.
@@hayescausey9941 what a great counter argument, how will he ever recover?
Strange Boy The ghouls didn’t kill them because they were feral, but because Roy already planned on killing the humans and having just ghouls in the tower. Also, it’s not “woke” to dislike bigotry. The humans disliked the ghouls just because they didn’t like ghouls, not for any pragmatic reason. I don’t know why you brought up your views on immigration in a Fallout video, anyway. It doesn’t seem very relevant to this fictional, post-apocalyptic scenario.
@Strange Boy Do you *ever* go outside?
@ youre really racist :3
10:56 When you are the one guy Talon Company sent to kill some random dude, who just managed to destroy the Enclave base single handedly and has the weapons of a small army at all times in his backpack just because he is giving people free water bottles sometimes
I always tought talon company starts to attack you because you disarmed the bomb in megaton.
If you disarm the Megaton bomb, they send the Talon Company to kill you. If you rig the bomb to explode, they send the Regulators to kill you. It doesn't matter about Karma.
@@nuttybangerz except it does... thats literally why you get the regulators to kill you. Because rigging the bomb is instant evil karma. Thats why a lot of people balance neutral karma just to not be hassled by any groups. Its even in the video how karma works
@@Wawza14Gameplays oh that makes sense , every playthrough, that's how it went for me.
@@Wawza14Gameplays i always play good guy so i dont know much about the regulators but after some time they start to come with energy weapons which i can exchange for stuff at the outcasts and they are quite easy even on very hard. (i play with deadly radiation mod (500 rad is death instead of 1000) so i often exchange it for radaways)
I can tell you as someone who lived on an aircraft carrier for 4 years that navigating Rivet City is 100 percent accurate. There IS a system called “hull numbers” that basically is the Dewey Decimal System of shipboard navigation, but for the most part you spend your life getting lost until you memorize how to get from place to place through repetition.
Dave exploding at 33:24 is why you must always get the bloody mess perk on every fallout playthrough 😂. It’s a decent perk too, +5% damage with all weapons!
When I was 9 my friend was staying over at my house for the night and I just got fallout 3 for my good ol' xbox 360 and we at 4am went to vault 108 (Gary vault) and being very young boys we were some how scared of that vault and we kinda use it as a inside joke so ya, we sometimes at random will just text each other, Gaarrry
That’s awesome 😂
Yea, from Fallout 3, Vault 108 was probably one of the creepiest vaults. Though, I still think one of the most fucked up Vaults (I can't remember the number) is the one where the residents were told that every year, they would have to kill a resident or they would all die and they believed it. But in reality, if they didn't kill anyone, they would have been rewarded (or something like that)
@@bloodwolfgaming9269 it was vault 11 and correct each year the overseer was selected and he knew that he was going to be sacrificed and one year they were like fuk it and didn't kill the overseer and the vault rewarded them by opening it's door
@Split 5 people said fuck it. 1 came out of the Vault. The other 4, well they committed suicide due to pure guilt.
@@alec554
The one who came out was going to commit suicide but he decided at the last minute not to.
Oh dude, be glad that there are signs. In a real aircraft carrier you have alphanumeric designators that don't make any sense until you've gotten lost 700 times.
I feel like I would get lost on a submarine lol I just watched a video about those earlier and they are a lot bigger than I ever thought they were
Having worked in a military Hospital, yeah lol The door frame numbers dont make any sense until youve been _everywhere_ in the Hospital at least a couple dozen times. Which means getting lost 700 times lol
34:46 Interesting that you said this but didn't comment about what happens to the Tenpenny residents after you get them to share with Roy and his people
Although The main story was... not that good.
But the best part of fallout 3 easily was the world exploration. It’s so immersive and also so rewarding to explore the world and how much personality the capital wasteland has in store. Even the side quests were so good even better than the main quests as well. The DLC is fun (outside of operation anchorage as it plays like a boring FPS game). But all in all Fallout 3 is one my favorite games of all time
If I play fo3 again I should just pick a direction and go and what's there
@@shadowrosegaming3566 have you played nv?
@@shadowrosegaming3566 I’d recommend starting the dlc Operation Anchorage. Finish the simulation to get power armor, which is also unbreakable. The dlc is a bit boring, but i only did it for the power armor, though I didn’t know it was unbreakable. You actually don’t need to wear other armor sets anymore.
@@lucianwong420 don't have the dlcs unfortunately
It’s unfortunate the worldbuilding is broken in fo3 on nearly every level. The main quest revolves around the supposed water crisis, but outside of that and the scant few water beggars, almost no one seems to care. It is emphasized how important water is at the beginning of the game, but there is barely anything to support the crisis being an issue. Some examples Outside of that is that there is no food source for any living creature, and paradise falls has been in operation for centuries but no one in the capital wasteland owns slaves.
I just caught this.
The name “Those” is a reference to the classic sci-fi B movie Them. Which is about giant ants.
Fallout 3 is entirely comprised of old B movie tropes and references. Liberty Prime is what made me realize that it was just a big celebration of the pulp camp sci-fi genre itself.
Swish Fish I can see that. Liberty Prime specifically reminds me of the robot from the day the earth stood still. However I think the name quite obviously comes from optimus prime.
@@theanonymousmrgrape5911 i believe they said his head was a refrence to that movie but his body was a refrence to the iron giant
Thats cool. Fallout also takes alot from Fahrenheit 451 and other classics.
ah, yes "Them" man the 50s were weird!
I kinda liked navigating DC via Ghoul infested metro and sewer tunnels. Sure it was a hot mess on the map, but creeping through those dark twisting underground passages with a relatively low-level character unaccustomed to feral ghouls was terrifyingly exciting.
Also, there's just something about making your own fire-sword out of a lawnmower blade and motorcycle parts, that I'll never forget.
Main issue being reavers.
Pre BS, I adored the tunnels and they were my favorite area.
Post BS, Tenpenny tower everyone dies and I'm getting that damn mask.
Mateodon my first playthrough I didn’t know there was a flashlight... the tunnels were a literal horror experience
i had literary nightmares.
well, more like i was dreaming about this shit.
Get the ghoul mask
My first play through I some how managed to find a fatman before I trekked the GNR, so when I was in the metro and turned the corner to see the first super mutant I freaked the fuck out. I tried to take it with my 10mm, to no avail. Logically I, an irrational thinking person, said to hell with it and wasted my only mini nuke.
Revisiting this immediately after finishing the fallout tv series
sthup
Same
I actually like the DC downtown design, it's like a maze...gotta go through buildings, subways, other tunnels to navigate. Makes it interesting going on expeditions to different parts, feels cool stumbling into a new part deep into the "maze"...it's an oppressive system which fits pretty well with the setting. Besides once you go on those initial expeditions you can just fast travel in and out
Same, it makes dc seem 10 times bigger then it is.
When I started fallout 3, I had no idea what it was about.
I have fonder memories with Stepping out of the vault than with my twenty-first birthday.
Austin Murre oof
Austin Murre your 19 when you leave the vault.
@@benson2873 I'm talking about my own birthday xD
I totally feel you. That's why it hurts me when people bash this game.
Same with me i picked it up at game stop for a few dollars I had no clue what I got myself into same thing happened with fallout 2 for me.
You missed the entire point and climax of vault 106, the reason the last person you kill is called "survivor" was to imply you were the aggressor tearing through survivors in a vault hallucinating them as crazies.
Wait really? I just wiped out Vault 106 with a minigun and some Enclave power armor today...
It should be noted that the Survivor is labeled as "Evil" as he drops a finger if you have the Lawbringer perk.
@@Shadethewolfy still in a hallucinogenic vault tho
@@ghostcure3403 ah yes, the Frank Horigan tratament
@@Shadethewolfy
Some brotherhood outcasts drop a finger when they get taken out.
Bro literally your opening sentences are exactly how I feel about Skyrim. Without Skyrim being “casual friendly” I would never have gotten into the Elder Scrolls the way I have and tried the older games and enjoyed those too. Not saying that makes Skyrim better or anything but now I’m trying Daggerfall and Morrowind and having tons of fun with those games because Skyrim opened up enough to let people in a little bit.
So yeah just wanted to say that I can relate to that lol
There's a difference between "casual friendly" and "dogshit" y'know.
@@Peasham Yeah there is. Skyrim is casual friendly, Fallout 76 is dogshit.
@@Infinicat I mean like, maybe Skyrim's playable with mods, sure?
@@Peasham It’s playable without mods people are just on high horses nowadays like they didn’t play the crap out of Skyrim when it came out because for some reason it’s popular to hate on popular games.
If it wasn’t playable without mods it wouldn’t be still selling new versions lol
Skyrim was just more mainstreamed mechanics it's not what I call a rpg but it's one of the best games of all time
Fallout 3 was the first time that a video game made me really, truly, furious with the actions of some minor characters. I was going around, exploring and clearing various parts of the wasteland, as you do, when I came across Paradise Falls. I go in, expecting to find just another screwed up settlement, something like the cannibal group, the vampire group, or the comic book group. Then I get to looking around and find out that they were slavers. and the way everything was set up there just infuriated me. Sure, I'd gotten annoyed at characters before, or chuckled at how absurdly over-the-top evil some characters were, but the slavers in that place really hit hard. That was the first time in a Fallout game where I wiped out a settlement (well, the slavers, I didn't touch the slaves, obviously) that didn't shoot at me first. I just went ham on them.
It really sticks in my memory, since that was the strongest emotional reaction I'd had to a video game up to that point. It's still pretty high on that list, even today.
Man u probably took the open season quest in fallout 4 the moment u saw the raiders
@@Dy_sk I actually started it accidentally, since I just started killing them all off almost immediately. I am fully in support of the international standard that pirates and slavers are to be considered hostis humani generis, after all.
@@hotarusama5826 oh didnt know u could just start it without talking
@@Dy_sk Yeah, just start publicly killing them off and it starts automatically.
when i did the quest to get into little lamplight, i also wiped those bastards off the face of the earth, i used a few mini-nukes just for the overkill
"Why do all these main menu theme gotta be so goddamn good?" Inon Zur (the composer) is why.
Inon Zur is seriously one of the greats. Up there with John Williams, Mick Gordon, and Marty O'Donnell imo.
He made ost for fallout tactics too. The music is good and my favourite were the bos,reavers and main menu themes.
its actually really funny how you can completely skip the goat by saying its dumb
Huh , I never noticed that dialogue option , but you still get to select tag skills right ?
What I like to do is right after taking the GOAT (getting tag skills)
Is use the console with "Player.Moveto 0003D9C3"
Then you leave the vault as the 16 year old , staying that way perpetually never leveling.
The main quest won't start either , but if I remember correctly , you can get it to start from going to smith casey garage.
Mk101T yes you still get to tag skills
The blast when entering Arefu for the first time got me at first, and many more times after that...
I always forgot that the bridge would lead to Arefu, then BOOM, conversation with the old man...
Mini heart attack ensues..
This is definitely a game from the early 2000s, seeing how enemies just become bullet-sponges if you try to play on Hard
Late 2000s lol
Very late 00s, it came out late 08 and DLC in 09, couldn’t get any later than that.
But you’re forgiven for thinking it was early 00s as the graphics, gameplay, writing etc all are on par with a game from 04
@@burna8753 pretty sure it was worked on for like 4 years so the foundation was established in early 00s.
Well it’s “definitely” not a game from the early 2000s
"Nextt you'll tell me I've been in a coma for sixty years, and my son is now the bad guy"
Haha, that would be an absolutely terrible storyline! Good thing I can have absolute faith in Bethesda going above and beyond to make complex and compelling storylines. Yep.. Good ol' trusty Bethesda... *continues to live in happy denial while playing New Vegas*
Hehe. At least we haven’t gotten an all online West Virginia fallout where the only people you talk to is a dumbass robot, or a holotape. Hehe. Good Ol’ Bethesda, good thing they haven’t done that. Hehe.
Let tale of two wastelands consume you my friend
I always sided with the institute
Play that one diner side quest in 4 and then literally ignore the entire game outside of a couple decent brotherhood of steel quests
you can only cope for so long
"But at least being good gives you access to the best partner in the game, my guy Fawkes."
I see what you did there.
what'd he do?
@@theta_clips Fawkes is named after Guy Fawkes, the guy who tried to blow up Westminster Palace during the failed Gunpowder Plot of 1605. Guy Fawkes, my guy Fawkes. There's no way that's accidental.
@Plz I Fan Excuse me but wot
Death Incarnate I’m thinking it’s accidental
Death Incarnate That sounds totally accidental
I still get chills from that menu opening song and the clicks of the slides
THIS was and is a great game. I really enjoyed the horror theme of it in the beginning. Setting the tone of this game's world is one of the first locations stumbled upon, which happens to be a former elementary school. NOT ONLY does it set the tone of tragedy but while exploring there butchered remains are discovered suggesting human remains were being cannibalized by the raiders. Sure it hasn't been an elementary school for a long time but it's still eerie, just the thought of it, what if?
This game was perfect
boy, nv fanboys gonna get pissed off when they see your comment
I'mma be honest, I didn't really like fv 3, but it has its charms. I certainly do like the tone, like you said however, and listening to President Eden is kinda funny aswell
This game is so fucking overrated.
@@TheCapitalWanderer nobody mentioned nv and you still got upset?😂😂 fo3 is a fine game, it’s not as good as fnv, even if that upsets you.
“ ATTENTION ALL CITIZENS *TIME TO TAKE MANDATORY PSYCHEDELICS* “
I love how the ending of the majority of the quests ends up in everyone dying or exploding to bits lol
0:25 wow, he really put his intelligence to 1
That green tint actually sickens me when I think back
I love the Vault 92 quest for 3 reason. One, the writing. So good. Two, the gun you get for the reward is amazing for pistol characters. And three, the radio station. Listening to Civilization for the upteen time can get irritating so some nice classical music is refreshing.
Acting like civilazation isnt the best song ever besides big iron
@Daniel von Strangle the story in the vault is an optional extension of the quest.
@Daniel von Strangle but it kind of is a vault 92 quest though. maybe Ive been playing the game wrong all this time but my first one or two playthroughs I never happened across the vault by myself I always found this old lady who pointed me to the vault. Plus the fact that one of her ancestors resided in that vault kind of makes her a part of the story of the vault in a way doesn't it?
You only get the pistol as a reward from a speech check I think
Fallout 3: "Where's my father?" Fallout 4: "Where's my son?"
Fallout 76: "Where's my refund?"
why is 76 bad? ive never played it lol
@@seanarmstrong9474 it was extremely buggy at launch. And it has almost no endgame content
"Was"?
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.
Man that joke hasnt be used before thats original.
and now we got wastelanders and i must say i enjoy 76 and they brought back the old dialogue system
I genuinely liked the difficulty in exploring the rubble of dc. It was the toughest area in the map. You had to prep well. And you couldn’t just fast travel away if you ran low or got into trouble.
I also hated river city.
“Being attacked by an entire state.” I died lol
An hour long and only 1 ad, wow you’re insane man
Yeah I thought about throwing one in the middle, but I don't like ads either haha
The Salt Factory keep it up man, I love these long videos
JohnTheGreat7822 People who like content creators
JohnTheGreat7822 nice bait bro
JohnTheGreat7822 can you let people live and support their favorite content creators?
You have became one of my favorite content creators over the videos you have done. Wish I found out you sooner!
Very good video. Keep up the good work Salt Factory! I'm thankful I recently subbed. All your videos are masterpieces.
Nobody is talking about that at 20:45 it says "pp: hard"
sorry i was too busy giggling to myself about it because im actually 9 years old lmao
what else is there to say? if the pp is hard then the pp is hard
@Hideyoshi Kinoshita
Words to live by
@Ezra Nobleheart wise words
The best end for the replicated man is to find out who it is, convince him to let you kill Zimmer, Go to Zimmer and tell him who the Synth is to get the perk that makes you better with AP and as he goes to the Synth before Zimmer reaches him kill Zimmer with the mesmartron so he attacks first with berserk (or his head might pop idk) then go to the Synth to get the unique weapon! ;)
Capitalism.
I did this. I second this. Absolutely worth
Haha with my peabrain I had when I was like 10 i would've never thought to do that shit lol that's why I love fallout games especially nv and 3 I can replay them a million times over and do some quests I still haven't done
I just told the android Id kill zimmer, passed the persuasion check with save scumming to get his rifle than tell zimmer where his android was, getting me the the perk and weapon and sending that stupid synth back where it belonged.
Fun fact: I told the slave guys I didn't want to promise (or whatever the dialog choice was) they locked me in, and I just jumped out the window then lockpicked my way back through the front gate. Then they just went on like nothing happened.
Actual lol. You did that at Paradise Falls or the escaped slaves' original compound?
@@daskommandantkrieger2503 The escaped slaves compound
@@NerdHerdForLife They were like, "He got out? Well, we're obviously not slavers and we respek tha hustle. Welcome aboard!" ;))
I really grew fond of vats. I just had to learn when to use it. I use normal gunplay 80% of the time usually saving vats for fatman shots, small enemy weakpoints like fire ant antennas, and for rapid group kills in close proximity similar to red dead and getting 6 headshots using deadeye. I use mostly stealth and that i always do in real time.
I mostly only use VATS when using grenades or any type of explosive, because I usually find a way to blow myself up like an idiot if I’m not paying attention to where I’m throwing it
"Moria gets you attacked by an entire state" haha the sniper arkansas
I took the true ending, where you waffle over who gets to go in so long it explodes and kicks you directly to the menu
I appreciate that I can’t make my way through the DC ruins from memory. They actually did a pretty good job making a post-apocalyptic city seem like a massive pointless death trap
-Cook-cook, tourist and cannibal.
@@pavelkrustowski6936 you reminded Cook-cook to keep doing what he does.
@@FumblsTheSniper Yes! Keep on the good work, you're a legend!
“It Just Works”
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No Tods, No Masters
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31:34 The funny thing is, the "Outcasts" as they are called are actually following the original doctrine of the BoS verbatim. The BoS in Fallout only really opened up due to the Super Mutant Army being a threat to everyone and them not having the numbers to combat them. The BoS have ALWAYS been bastards and Lyons' Pride in the Capital Wasteland were an exception to the rule.
mmmmm gonna disagree on that one chief considering that they're cool with you joining in the very game you're referencing and the fact that they have outposts in major cities and are cool with you doing stuff for them in 2
the bos has never been as bad as they were in NV in the 2D games, they were mostly neutral at worst and mostly the embodiment of "we just vibin".
Now you’re understanding how religions form. One religion follows the teachings literally, the other follows them metaphorically, they both disagree and fight to the death.
History of earth tbh.
@@burn5014 that's one way of looking at it that I hadn't considered before.
@@door-kun721 disagree all you like. Have you even seen the opening of fo1? It literally shows them murdering citizens in the streets and then laughing about it.
"Just vibing" indeed 😕
The bos weren't ever portrayed as anything but assholes UNTIL FO3
when you ask them to join in FO1 they send you in a suicide mission that they very well know that you probably won't survive, the only reason why the have outposts in some locations in 2 is because they are trying to gather information on the enclave and these outposts usually have only 1 person in them, and they aren't "cool with you doing stuff for them" they only ask you for help because by the time you get to San Fran they are just impressed by how far a tribal has come.
the only reason why the BOS appears to be so hostile is because they just lost a war agaisn't the NCR and are being hunted down to death, they can't trust you inmediately because they don't know your intentions.
i always found it weird how people think that the NV BOS are assholes just because they are rightfully wary of your intentions, i honestly found them way less xenophobic than the Outcasts, Mojave Chapter treat you with respect and as one of them when you show them that you are trustworthy, meanwhile the Outcasts treat you as a primitive even when you help them retrieve technology.