LUO OF UGANDA: IS KUMAM LUO OR ATEKER?

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  • The mystery of KUMAM, a tribe of two tribes. Where exactly does Kumam belong? Luo or Ateker?

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  • @greenhouse9833
    @greenhouse9833 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you KP, wonderful history. It's getting better everyday. The one about reasons for subsequent wives 😂. That was a big tropical rain❤.

    • @ocengoyugi4578
      @ocengoyugi4578 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      gh9833..
      "That was a big tropical rain [storm]".. Indeed!!
      Those practices.. most of them.. made a lot sense.. and helped to guard and protect the unity and indentity of families in decent well-understood ways.. unnecessary animosities were next to zero..
      Stay well...

  • @alphancechege1418
    @alphancechege1418 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is a Luo man....physically and phenotypically.

  • @boazawitti1487
    @boazawitti1487 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Njugu(Swahili),Groundnut
    English) is called 'Ongiro'
    (Dholuo, Kenya, Siaya)

  • @johnwalterekudu6054
    @johnwalterekudu6054 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As a Kumam I believe the Kumams adopted Luo culture especially through intermarriages but the current Kumam has a vast difference with the Kumam of 100 years ago even most Kumam names are different from Luo names especially in men but Kumams now are more related to Lango people than Itesots

  • @osindeodwesi9417
    @osindeodwesi9417 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kumo in Dhopadhola is exactly how he has explained. When you sit with your hand(s) holding your cheeks and chin, looking tired, sorrowful and miserable

  • @atticusnow131
    @atticusnow131 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Peter, it would be good to eventually list the Groups that are True Luos as time goes by. And which ones are Bantu tribes who speak Luo so we can differentiate. Thank you for all your hard work.

    • @odochokee9856
      @odochokee9856 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are some headings which would be under this
      :
      1.Luo by bloodline
      2. Luo by social assimilation
      3. Luo by other association
      Etc .....

    • @izaiahronald8465
      @izaiahronald8465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with you like in Kenya, the Sakwa people where RAILA comes from are Bantus from the bloodline of the Wanga Kingdom of Mumias Kenya.... And many don't know this..... It pains knowing a vibrant people like Luos in Kenya lacking leadership...

  • @JohnOchira
    @JohnOchira ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kumo has the same meaning for Acholi South Sudan as well.

    • @henryodero9092
      @henryodero9092 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We have Acholi in South Sudan as well?

  • @Someone30056
    @Someone30056 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Proud to be a Kumam 💪🏿🇺🇬

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Enyai nakanaka 😂

  • @wendyadhiambo2086
    @wendyadhiambo2086 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Amazing ❤

  • @moseswatsonakwenyu7177
    @moseswatsonakwenyu7177 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good job! Kindly share this mzee's contact!

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Send me a private message.

  • @emmanuelekakoro6065
    @emmanuelekakoro6065 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Irarak and Inomu are Teso clans. Based on what I've been told in Teso, this version of Kumam origins sounds more credible.

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I really, will have to dig more. I will have to interview the iteso people about the Kumam.

    • @emmanuelekakoro6065
      @emmanuelekakoro6065 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KPtravels001 I am glad to hear that. I've always wanted to say your search about Luo origin will not be complete until you venture outside people who do not identify themselves as Luo, such as the Iteso. These people not only have common origins, but have also had on-and-off contact, continuing to influence each other until at some point it is not easy to tell who has influenced each other more, and which aspect is from, or a vestige of the shared origins, or as a result of the said contact.

    • @mysteriouswonders528
      @mysteriouswonders528 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also in Lango we have Inomu and Arak clans

  • @atticusnow131
    @atticusnow131 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great work, Peter. To me, the Kumam are not Luos. Like the Suba, they assimilated Luo language and culture probably as a survival tactic dealing with other Bantu tribes that may have been attacking them at the time.

  • @OloliaDaniel-kh2cd
    @OloliaDaniel-kh2cd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kumam nyai

  • @Jakawere1
    @Jakawere1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow. This is really good. The influence of the Luo in the Kumam is showcased in this interview. Great job KoGot

  • @samochanji9381
    @samochanji9381 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kumam comes from the word Kumo. You "kumo" when you feel sorrow. In old Kenyan Luo, my grandpa's generation, we had a lot of Akumu names. Modern Luos have stuck to the Atieno, Anyango, Adhiambo. Amondi, Achieng and Awuor. The old Luo names are disappearing.

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kumam have a very complex history. I just finished doing a documentary on them. I'll possibly upload it tomorrow. Make sure you watch it. The history has several angles.

    • @gertrudeathieno398
      @gertrudeathieno398 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For sure the Kumam has a complicated origin. Many angles all seem true​@@KPtravels001

  • @rockentertainment343
    @rockentertainment343 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These are a product of Luo and Ateker, I believe the dhopadhola version explains it all

  • @alfredomoti1728
    @alfredomoti1728 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can l have the mzee no,l would like to aske him something

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm not sure if it's ethical to give his number but you can send me a private message.

  • @Gofwono
    @Gofwono ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After this mans version of history am beginning to believe that Kumams are not Luo's.

  • @nyambokkennedy7549
    @nyambokkennedy7549 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bhar El Gazel is in modern day Chad. I just searched on Google maps. Maybe that's why there are people in Chad who say they are Luo.

    • @cls4786
      @cls4786 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      South Sudan

    • @thealisterr
      @thealisterr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Sara people in southern Chad may have connection with Luos.

    • @georgeochieng8013
      @georgeochieng8013 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you done a DNA test Ken?

    • @nyambokkennedy7549
      @nyambokkennedy7549 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@georgeochieng8013 no

  • @patrickochieng4659
    @patrickochieng4659 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Jopadhola named the area of Kaberamaido. It means this place is good for groundnuts. Ka means this place in Padhola, ber means good, maido means groundnuts. Kaberamaido is Dhopadhola. The Jopadhola stayed there temporarily during their southward journey. The Jopadhola also gave the Basoga the name of maido which means groundnuts in Lusoga.

    • @odochokee9856
      @odochokee9856 ปีที่แล้ว

      It might have been Kabedo-Amaido. The place of peanuts

    • @onenrobert8296
      @onenrobert8296 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@odochokee9856 😀😀

  • @SLIVIAEMMANUEL
    @SLIVIAEMMANUEL 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kumam, jopokumu Okumu was the brother of Owiny, kadhirondi, Adhola,Olumi, Rukidi who went to bunyooro etc.
    So kumam is not even under Luo but they're real Luos because of their ancestor called Okumu.

  • @halimamusa3932
    @halimamusa3932 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi,am akumam in Nairobi bt speak little

  • @kennethotieno995
    @kennethotieno995 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why do the Ateso, at least of Kenya, have similar names to Luo?

  • @vincentomondi2153
    @vincentomondi2153 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The good thing is that our brothers kumam are now LUO

  • @gertrudeathieno398
    @gertrudeathieno398 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Okumu was clearly left behind because he preffered to remain with his wife who was an Ateso .
    The origin of Ethopia is still very correct. The Lou also were once in Ethopia before they settled in Ba el ghazel. Eastern Ethopia is very much connected to Bar el Ghazel in Sudan.
    As Lou reached the present Kaberamaido, they found it very fertile, near water, and lives it. Hence the statement " Ka ber amayi do!" Literally meaning: this olace is so good. I grab it from you. Therefore fought the Ateker (plain nilotes like the Iteso of today) and pushed them away from there and occupied it for some time. When Okumu married an atesot lady he opted to stay with jer near her people when the rest like Adhola, owinyi, etc, decided to move further. They would time and again miss Okumu and when they checked after years, the wife said Okumu mam meaning Okumu was not there. By then Okumu could have gone hunting because he was good at game hunting.
    It is believed that Okumu was also posibly having wives elsewhere and could have gone to his other wives, and the wofe simply said he was not there. Perhaps Okumu died in such errands and his brothers never saw him again. And so the descendants became jo kumam.
    Now, this version of reverand points that Kumam are not Luo but plain nilotes who adopted luo language.
    But jopadhola habe it that Kumam wete true luo who adopted a lingua franka because of intermarriage between Luo and Iteso.
    All seem to hold water.
    But, we also appreciate the fact that some of us habe little oral history from our grand fathers.
    So, we are probably getting fabricated story but not real history.
    😅😅

  • @byttlejuice145
    @byttlejuice145 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't think the Kumam are Lou, but they do speak luo, just like the lango. I actually think these 3 groups, Acholi, Lango and Kumam have some sort of assimilation, like intermarriages.

    • @ocengoyugi4578
      @ocengoyugi4578 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great additions KP..
      The 2 dimensions.. the "Atekerin.." and the "Jo p'Okumu.." ("Okumu-mam" = "Kumam").. make pretty strong and thoughtful "argument" either way.. Only the real accuracy and absolute truth is/are hidden in the past.. many centuries gone..
      The "pointed" explanatory details about the name "Soroti".. how it came about.. are (were) really captivating.. very enjoyable listening to how carefully the explanation[s] was [were] put out..
      Erokamano.. Apwoyo..
      Good health...

    • @odochokee9856
      @odochokee9856 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Lango and kumam go their language from Acoli Luo. The Lango were traditional enemies of Acoli .

    • @izaiahronald8465
      @izaiahronald8465 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Achoooliii😂😂😂😂 Acholi are Luos in its purest form.... We hv acholi in Uganda Sudan

    • @kr3539
      @kr3539 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@izaiahronald8465
      No Acholi are only 43% Luo, the rest are descended from Madi and Ateker.

    • @Mrpwocber
      @Mrpwocber 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kr3539 You do not know Acoli then. My entire clan for generations back I have not traced any who is married to a madi or a Lango. May be recently some could but it would be rare. And one Acoli man would mary many women but within Luo/Lwo clans. There are so many clans in Acoli, you need to do your search properly by going among the people and talk to people.

  • @SLIVIAEMMANUEL
    @SLIVIAEMMANUEL 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kumam, jopokumu Okumu was the brother of Owiny, kadhirondi, Adhola,Olumi, Rukidi who went to bunyooro etc.
    So kumam is not even under Luo but they're real Luos because of their ancestor called Okumu.

  • @Okwash1
    @Okwash1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very eloquent and exact.

  • @princessnyangi3098
    @princessnyangi3098 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Am the second today,am so happy brother KP👏👏👏

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Erokamano nyamera. I appreciate so much. This luo journey is getting deeper and deeper.

    • @princessnyangi3098
      @princessnyangi3098 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @KPtravels001 sounds great bro👍

  • @EDWINEOGOLA-sw5gs
    @EDWINEOGOLA-sw5gs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kumo in Luo is exactly what this man explains. One showing Sadness facially or through some action

  • @richardanganya413
    @richardanganya413 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    According to the story that have gathered from Jopadhola and kumum Elder , I concluded that Kumam are Luos

  • @laktar23
    @laktar23 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting insights on the Kuman Luo group and their dual heritage.

  • @alphancechege1418
    @alphancechege1418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Ethiopia we have Anywaa who speak a Luo dialect and their brother also came downwards.Kumam could be their brother.

  • @danielokolla288
    @danielokolla288 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    kumam nyaii 🥰🥰🥰

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Enyai nakanaka 😀

  • @ALIYAANNET
    @ALIYAANNET 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Iam so proud to be kumo WC come from word sorrowful iam realkumam

  • @Okwash1
    @Okwash1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yadh lang'o in Luo-Kenya we call that yadh nyaluo.

  • @Franciseyoku-jr2lr
    @Franciseyoku-jr2lr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks rv. Elijah I have been knowing him for a long time

  • @achikoaron6682
    @achikoaron6682 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That is the question I was asking too

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll definitely need to do more to get a more conclusive answer.

  • @cls4786
    @cls4786 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The thing is luos have very distinct physical features. If one looks like luo, and talk like luo he or she is a luo. This guy is luo. Langos are luo. Suba in kenya are luo today as they look more luo than bantu. If a people overwhelmingly inter marry with luos they become luos and look like luo. There are suba people who look even more luo than your average luo.

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hahahaha this is from a luo pride point of view 😅😅

    • @babyboasty6033
      @babyboasty6033 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Subas look Bantu short, big nose and stocky

  • @PatrickOluka-eh2te
    @PatrickOluka-eh2te 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Am skeptical about this story. I disagree with that retired gentleman. The Kumam ariginated from Lalle, at the Kyoga lake shores. It's from there the the luo and Iteso intermarried to form Kumam. Ku is luo and mam is Teso language. It's from Lalle that the Kumam made an expansion towards lango areas through fights. The Kumams have much linings to Iteso than the Luo, given that almost all the kumam clans are from Iteso, meaning we share the same culture with Iteso. Patrick Oluka.

    • @edwinekadu6772
      @edwinekadu6772 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      interesting....🤔

  • @dennisnyawana3650
    @dennisnyawana3650 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would conclude that the Kumam are an offshoot of the Lang'i whose interactions with the Iteso had an influence in their luo language so much so that they added iteso vocabulary into their language.

    • @byttlejuice145
      @byttlejuice145 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s a more reasonable take, since their vocabulary consists more of Leb lango than Itesot or Ngakaramojong

    • @cavineowaka6749
      @cavineowaka6749 ปีที่แล้ว

      From the way they count 1 to 10, it seems they were originally Iteso then assimilated by the Lango

    • @mysteriouswonders528
      @mysteriouswonders528 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am a Lango! our history tells us that We are Ateker, actually Lango, Karamojong and itesots left Ethiopian Highlands and splitted from karamoja region. How ever we started to adopt much of Luo Culture including some Words because we settled near Acholi.

  • @sylvestersebei792
    @sylvestersebei792 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your language is a mix of luo and ateker , eti locen amae

  • @sabiradaing3067
    @sabiradaing3067 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good

  • @omarbrainerlyrics932
    @omarbrainerlyrics932 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the best so far

  • @jacklineateng3613
    @jacklineateng3613 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is my first time commenting on this platform, have followed this channel for along time and liked it too. i started reading and researching about the origin of Luos in 2017. from this conversation i have gleaned a few things.
    1. Asol is a Luo name common in asembo kenya.
    2. A dance for twins was called miend malongo, this a heard from my elders when i was young.
    3. Go dwar was common hunting expedition in my village that was decided and dated in a meeting. boto was a small hunting without planning.
    4. mojony is a Luo word for exhausted. is there any relation to karamajonj?
    5. There is a claim that Igbo of Nigeria originated from goshen from the houses or arodi and aleri the sons of Gad the son of Jacob.
    Thank you so much for your effort. its already bearing good fruits.

    • @cavineowaka6749
      @cavineowaka6749 ปีที่แล้ว

      No 4. Karimojong resembles Kwar mojony, meaning tired grandpa

    • @ocengoyugi4578
      @ocengoyugi4578 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi JAteng..
      Thank you so much for your insightful observation.. it's brought out the impacts of Luo-influence in the ancient history of Asembo (Kenya)..
      May I ask please.. Which part of Kenya is Asembo in..?
      Asante.. Thank you..
      Stay well and good health...

    • @thealisterr
      @thealisterr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not true about the Igbo. They originally came from indigenous pygmy tribes in West Africa who intermarry with some Bantu migrants

  • @oderokennedy3380
    @oderokennedy3380 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Peter

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. Help me spread the content widely. I need more luos onboard.

  • @omarbrainerlyrics932
    @omarbrainerlyrics932 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate your works. I believe that we the langi assimilated but i think this whole assimilation started before we even settled in present day northern Uganda. If we really assimilated then some of the langi would be using the Acholi dialect 😂😂. But all langi everywhere speak one language called leb Lango regardless of the geographically locations.
    The other thing also that I've seen is that the Acholi, Alur , japadhola , and jaluo are similar but the dialects are still different in one way or the other. KP should draw a very fair conclusion at the end of this all. Thank you so much i appreciate

    • @kr3539
      @kr3539 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you heard of the Shilluk theory? Some people believe the Lango broke off from them before mixing with Ateker people. This could be a plausible explanation for your confused history. Some might stem from Ateker while others could be Luo, your clans have Ateker names as far as I know.

    • @Mrpwocber
      @Mrpwocber 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kr3539 The Shilluk theory is a lie. During Obote there was a huge campaign to recruit people in the army therefore they had to drum the message that Langi are Lwo a lot of Lwo language was used. They ended up recruiting more army from the Acoli ethnic group followed by Langi and other ethnic groups. Acoli comprised the most number and they died the most also.

  • @jakagerokeukamrembo9465
    @jakagerokeukamrembo9465 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    KP am so proud of you and the work you are doing to dig deeper into the roots of the Luo nations. An iluonga ni Owino Mike jakager ma ugenya Siaya county Ugunja constituency. Kindly find out among the Luo speaking nations in their own traditional and cultural set up if they had disciplinary mechanisms for offenders amongst them. For example kangato okwalo chi wadgi, kata dhiang kata owete malaro pwodho malweny owuokie kwerewa machon ne handle cases go nadi. Another issue I heard some Luo guys from Uganda refering to my hand as 'chinga' this is also famously used in the so called USA Kenya region and especially ugenya. Erokamano ahinya Kogot jakarachuonyo Nyasaye omedi Teko imed fwenyonwa wechegi.

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much Jakager. I try my best to give the best. I will definitely dig into the important topics. Kindly help me share my videos widely with your friends and family. I need more luos here.

    • @jakagerokeukamrembo9465
      @jakagerokeukamrembo9465 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KPtravels001 I will make sure your videos are shared far and wide, this is deep history, ber ndi woud onagi, apuoyo ahinya

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jakagerokeukamrembo9465 erokamano jayadha.

  • @boazawitti1487
    @boazawitti1487 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Njugu(Swahili),Groundnut
    English) is called 'Ongiro'
    (Dholuo, Kenya, Siaya)

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really? I've never heard of this.

  • @savyomondi9593
    @savyomondi9593 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful Kogot

  • @patrickochieng4659
    @patrickochieng4659 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lango in Luo means a person who is not Luo, at least in Kenya Luo.

    • @eliazali_4200
      @eliazali_4200 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the traditional deep Alur it means (almost) the same.

    • @odochokee9856
      @odochokee9856 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Acoli it is the same. There is lango dyang, lango dyel, lango omiro. The lango of Northern uganda are lango omiro. The karamojong are lango dyang

    • @eliazali_4200
      @eliazali_4200 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@odochokee9856 wow. Now for us the descriptions of dyel and dhyang were given to the Madi and Lugbara. Madi were Madi dyel and the Lugbara were Madi Dhyang. Now I wonder why we use those specific adjectives.

    • @violetakoth4850
      @violetakoth4850 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lango according Luo Kenya includes the Kalenjins, Turkanas, Maasai. Non Luos are Jamwa/Jomwa

    • @julietatoo5563
      @julietatoo5563 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lango literally means enemy in Lebthur

  • @apollo6154
    @apollo6154 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His clan, Irarak, is a dominant clan in Teso.

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's why I need to interview the iteso too and ask them about the Kumam.

  • @JimmySemwanga
    @JimmySemwanga 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Okumu is luo which means kumam is luo

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But remember it's just one hypothesis.

  • @ToolyRichard-ot8nt
    @ToolyRichard-ot8nt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Historically, Kumam and Lango are not luo but just assimilated into the luo culture. They belong to the nilehamites

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That leads to the big question. What defines luo? Blood (genes) or culture? If blood, then how do you categorize kids resulting from Intermarriages? And if culture, then how do you categorize people (from other tribes) assimilated into Luo culture and language?

    • @Mrpwocber
      @Mrpwocber 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@KPtravels001 We are not Europeans so in Africa the clans defines your origin by ethnicity, your roots your ancestors to thousand years back. None of these people have their clans among the Luo/Lwo groups. All clans of Lango, Kumam and Teso are none of these are in Lwo/Luo nor lwo language. When a child is born from day one, they already know which clan the child belongs to. That muze was just deceiving you, he knows this. How can he tell you they are using Luo/Lwo bible so that makes them Lwo/Luo?

    • @tesstes4602
      @tesstes4602 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KPtravels001Great question and I’d venture to say that in cases of intermarriages, due to patriarchy, people default to the father’s tribe as the children’s cultural heritage.

  • @richardanganya413
    @richardanganya413 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    kumo is also mean the same thing the way he has explained in Luo kenya

  • @izaiahronald8465
    @izaiahronald8465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kuyo in Ugenya Kenya Lou

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      'Kuyo" is different from "Kumo" though

  • @NyakachKabodho
    @NyakachKabodho 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The biggest question is whether you yourself are Luo my friend. Kenyan Luos are no different than the Kumam, the only difference is that our elders lied to us. I just took a DNA test, I'm descended from a Cushitic man. Yet if you ask Luo elders Kabodho clan of Nyakach was part of the larger migration. I'm furious at the realisation that I'm non-Luo.

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahahaha calm down my brother 😂. The luoness is dictated by the paternal ancestry. So if your paternal lineage is luo then you are good. Even "Kimirwa" is considered as "wuod dala"

    • @NyakachKabodho
      @NyakachKabodho 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KPtravels001
      My paternal ancestry is Cushitic, e1b1b V-32 to be exact, check my page. Nyakach history is fabricated, we never came with Joka-Jok. I suggest you get tested as well because these elders cannot be trusted.

    • @NyakachKabodho
      @NyakachKabodho 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KPtravels001
      My Y-DNA haplogroup: V-32 (Cushitic)
      My mtDNA haplogroup: L0 (Khoisanid)
      Do you know who else got L0? Lupita Nyongo. Autosomally I'm only 4.9% Nilotic, yet both my parents are from Nyakach (Kabodho and Kadiang'a). My genetic make up is primarily bantu.

    • @mubatsievonne4649
      @mubatsievonne4649 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​All Kenyan luos are assimilated.

    • @NyakachKabodho
      @NyakachKabodho 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mubatsievonne4649
      Impossible, like any tribe there is admixture through intermarriage/assimilation but to say that the whole community is assimilated would mean that we're all of Bantu/Cushitic descent. I personally don't look like a Luo, I'm brown skinned and taller than the average Luo in Kenya (6'1"). There's been times where people have mistaken me for a Rwandan, Ethiopian or Somali but I just assumed it was due to admixture. Turns out I'm not even descended from a Nilotic man + carry very little Nilotic ancestry.

  • @kr3539
    @kr3539 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It could be easily proved by DNA if the Kumam are the seed of Joseph.

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahahaha I'm sure you can fund that😂😂

    • @kr3539
      @kr3539 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @KPtravels001
      I'm already waiting on my own results lol, need to make sure I'm not descended from a jamua. You never know with Kenyan Luos, we're all mixed. Since I came back from Gulu I've noticed that a lot of Joluo look more like bantus. I've been told I look Rwandan because my skin is light and I'm tall.

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kr3539 In Ethiopia, I was told that I look like (the mountain people = Tigrays etc). I looked shorter and lighter compared to the Anywaa (luo of Ethiopia ).😂😂

    • @thealisterr
      @thealisterr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is not true. Africans are from the seed of Ham, which means Kemet (Egypt). They are not from Shem. The Luo are Nilotes from ancient Egypt.

    • @christineoyella8906
      @christineoyella8906 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In this world few people are speaking but the rest are reporters. Take your time and read bible well so that you will be among the few speakers

  • @leoug7706
    @leoug7706 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kumo means sorrow in Acholi too

    • @hilaryonyango7468
      @hilaryonyango7468 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kumo means to punish....not sorry

    • @meshackamimo1945
      @meshackamimo1945 ปีที่แล้ว

      ur dead wrong--THAT ONE WORD IS PRONOUNCED DIRRERNTLY--the intonation is diffrerent but spellings are same--holding both sides of u r chins in ur palms is frowned upon by parents--it is an ominous sign--and luos call it "kumo". ur dholuo knowledge is limited! wen kumo is used to mean punishment, it is a case of borrowing swahili word "hukumu"@@hilaryonyango7468

    • @meshackamimo1945
      @meshackamimo1945 ปีที่แล้ว

      very correct!

    • @Dorine-uc8kw
      @Dorine-uc8kw หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kumo means mourning, being unhappy, especially when you lost your beloved one

  • @gospelforall1564
    @gospelforall1564 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kïïmö or kïmmö: mean sorrow

  • @danielomingomingsr9203
    @danielomingomingsr9203 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in langi it amaido

  • @alphancechege1418
    @alphancechege1418 ปีที่แล้ว

    Joimo_JOMWA,JODUM_Jodhum

  • @alphancechege1418
    @alphancechege1418 ปีที่แล้ว

    nyikumama is nyikwa mama.......

  • @SoloVanny
    @SoloVanny 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Northern ug we only know lango, acholi, alur that are luos

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Kumam too. Kumam's story is a replica of the lango

    • @Mrpwocber
      @Mrpwocber 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In Northern Ug people know that Lango are Ateker they are Nilo-hamites they are not Luo.

    • @Mrpwocber
      @Mrpwocber 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KPtravels001 How are you all doing in Kenya due to floods? In Acoli the army commanda has ordered Acoli people out of land called Apaa. We are just hoping for divine help from above.

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mrpwocber doesn't assimilation count?

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mrpwocber concerning the flood, people are managing well on the Kenyan side. Nothing out of hand so far.

  • @silvanskodingo5221
    @silvanskodingo5221 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a real Luo, very eloquent unlike most Ugandans.

  • @papd3532
    @papd3532 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Lango and Kumam are assimilated Ateker groups into Luo similar to the Suba . These groups were assimilated Linguistically, Culturally and through intermarriages with the Luo . For instance the Lango provided one of the toughest resistance to Luo assimilation unlike the Bantu Suba or Bantu Bunyoro Kitara that was ruled by Luo-Babito .

    • @papd3532
      @papd3532 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Luo did not practice slavery unlike some Bantu groups such as Buganda . The Luo like the Fulani of West Africa ,the Somali of North-East and East Africa ,the waswahili of Eastern and South-Eastern Africa and the Zulu of Southern Africa are among the most spread out groups in the world and Africa continent . The Luo occupy at least 9 territories due to the capacity to organize socially, culturally ,economically and through the skilled warriors like Owinyi and Lwanda Magere .

    • @papd3532
      @papd3532 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In Lower Egypt/Sudan the Luo-Shilluk Kingdom stopped the Turko-Egyptian advancement and Arab slavery in 645AD . In 1912 the Luo-Anuak/Anywaa Kingdom that straddled Sudan, Ethiopia/Gambella, Eritrea defeated the British . Before Italian annexation Eritrea was part of Ethiopia .
      The Luo-Babito Kingdom of the Jo-Bito clan from Acholi land removed the Bachwezi rulers of Bunyoro Kitara and formed one the most successful Kingdoms in Eastern, Central and North Eastern Africa . The Luo-Babito Kingdom lasted 400-500 years and was ended by Uganda government in 1967 and officially 1971 after Idi Amin coup against Milton Obote .

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, Kumam and Lango have a similar story

    • @KPtravels001
      @KPtravels001  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      History of the luo is deep. I would really want to know why luo is so spread out. If they had strong ability to organise themselves and form Kingdoms, I expected them to exist as one big kingdom and not spread out in small groups.

    • @papd3532
      @papd3532 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KPtravels001 Okot P'Bitek a Uganda Luo-Acholi Poet and Lawyer wrote a dissertation at Oxford UK on the assimilation of the Lango by Luo that included at least 500 years of interactions and intermarriages .
      Some present day Lango still claim their original identity while others prefer their present day assimilated Luo identity . Similar to the Suba and other assimilated Luo groups .
      Present day DNA reveal admixtures similar to the Banyarwanda who have predominant Niger-Congo Bantu DNA associated with the Banyarwanda hutu and variations of Nilotic/Nilo-Saharan/Nilo-Cushitic DNA associated with Banyarwanda tutsi .

  • @eliazali_4200
    @eliazali_4200 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ground nuts in Alur are "kalanga"
    Don't know how the others call it

    • @kennethotieno995
      @kennethotieno995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought kalanga (karanga) came from swahili? I'm from Kenya

    • @eliazali_4200
      @eliazali_4200 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kennethotieno995 then I'll need to ask some elders for an older word. That's what is commonly used now.

    • @odochokee9856
      @odochokee9856 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In Acholi it is pwuul

    • @eliazali_4200
      @eliazali_4200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@odochokee9856 now for us the one we call "ful" is the white one. I'm sure that's our pronunciation of "pwuul" the same way some of our words in some Acoli pronunciation changes the p to and f

    • @odochokee9856
      @odochokee9856 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eliazali_4200 pwuul/pfuul in Acholi is the general name but there are specific names for the white one and the red ones

  • @oumaedwin198
    @oumaedwin198 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since Acholi didnt assimillate Kuman. It is convinient to say that Kumam were assimilated into Luo culture by the Lango.
    It is possible to deduce that Lango were initially Luo but meet ateker earlier.
    Most likely Lango were from Luo of Anywaa cluster.

    • @omarbrainerlyrics932
      @omarbrainerlyrics932 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe this 10000 times. Lango got assimilated not after settling in present day Uganda

    • @omarbrainerlyrics932
      @omarbrainerlyrics932 ปีที่แล้ว

      You probably have a big brain

    • @byttlejuice145
      @byttlejuice145 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt this theory, I am lango and I think Kumam is somewhere a mixture of lango, Itesot and Karimojongs. Linguistically they speak luo

    • @oumaedwin198
      @oumaedwin198 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@byttlejuice145 Where do you think they got their Luo from.

    • @byttlejuice145
      @byttlejuice145 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oumaedwin198 The lango might have gotten their initial luo from Luo migration East (the current Kenyan luo) and later refined with the Acholi luo