I really enjoyed this video John! I pre-ordered the vision line version of the 700e that should be here in the third quarter. I chose the original version. 👍
@@TwistedMacGyversTrains I suspect that Hudson will be really nice! My 1990 version is identical to the original 700e, including the e-unit. But I suspect that the electronics in the one you are getting will be fantastic! I also have a Williams reproduction of the 700e, which I keep in a display case.
Your collection is very impressive John! I forgot that I ordered two different versions. I also ordered the LionChief 2.0 version as well for the tighter curves. Have a great weekend John! 😊
@@TwistedMacGyversTrains That's so cool Frank! I've been out of touch with the new Lionel offerings, so I'll have to be satisfied watching you run your trains. I have so many older O gauge trains that are stashed everywhere. At my age and limited mobility I just can't be bothered getting them out, so decided to call it quits some time ago, except for my HO 😁, which I love.
Thank you so much for these video presentations on these model/toy trains. I've been in the hobby since 1972 when my father and I found this interest together. One thing of interest is that the boiler dies for this 1990 700e re-issue were completely new (and made in America compared to the Italian-made dies for the original) as the original had been used so much for casting the 700e, the 763e, the 773 from the 50's and 60's, and the MPC 'postwar' re-issues of the 1980's that the detailing had become worn, tired and sloppy in appearance. A close examination of the grey 785 (cat.#1-8002) with spoked drivers by Lionel from the mid-1980's will clearly reveal these casting flaws. The most noticeable casting difference between the prewar boiler and the 1990 version is found over the windows on the cab. The original model had a more gradual curvature going from the cab side and becoming the roof, the 1990 version had a 'sharper' transition from cab side to roof which, according to Lionel, was actually more accurate than the original. The 'cow catcher' on the prewar models, both scale and semi-scale, were about 1/8th on an inch above the rails (barring and zinc 'growth', the 1990 model places the cow catcher higher, matching that of the 1950 #773. As for the tender, it is from the original prewar tender dies since that die was not used nearly as much since the prewar semi-scale and all subsequent models used differing, smaller tenders. On the right side of the tender near the back there is a dent on my original 1937 model and on my 1-700e from 1990 - same dent is present which I find amazing. The dent is identical and they do not effect the visual aesthetics of these models. Joshua Cowan had the original dies made in Italy for the single reason that at that time, Italians were the master tool and die makers. So while the original prewar models were made in America, their dies were made in Italy. I learned this back when Lionel made their re-issue 1-700e in 1990. They stated that the new boiler die was made in America so, technically (except for the tender), the 1990 scale 700e is more "American made" than is the 1937-42 versions!!
@@asdfdsa45 For some reason I just now read your comments. That's a lot of amazing information and I really appreciate it. I had a 763e Hudson back in the 1970s that I absolutely loved, but I ended up trading it for a lot of prime postwar stuff. It was one of those deals that was too good to pass up. Anyway, thanks for the info and thanks for watching and commenting. I had no idea that the 1990 Hudson was made with new dies.
Right now on my layout I have my venerable 226e pulling those wonderful green 2400-series passenger cars, a great consist for Autumn. Enjoyed your video, John, and all the information. Also enjoyed "Let's run some trains." That says it all.
Thanks for the video John! I love postwar and some of the newer stuff too, I guess I'm eclectic when it comes to Lionel trains, but Postwar is very appealing , especially the steam engine air whistle...very heartwarming! Paul PS I just subscribed tonight to your channel!
I really enjoyed this video John! I pre-ordered the vision line version of the 700e that should be here in the third quarter. I chose the original version. 👍
@@TwistedMacGyversTrains I suspect that Hudson will be really nice! My 1990 version is identical to the original 700e, including the e-unit. But I suspect that the electronics in the one you are getting will be fantastic! I also have a Williams reproduction of the 700e, which I keep in a display case.
Your collection is very impressive John! I forgot that I ordered two different versions. I also ordered the LionChief 2.0 version as well for the tighter curves. Have a great weekend John! 😊
@@TwistedMacGyversTrains That's so cool Frank! I've been out of touch with the new Lionel offerings, so I'll have to be satisfied watching you run your trains. I have so many older O gauge trains that are stashed everywhere. At my age and limited mobility I just can't be bothered getting them out, so decided to call it quits some time ago, except for my HO 😁, which I love.
I completely understand that John. I’m getting to the point where I can’t climb up on the layout anymore. So that’s why I’m changing everything.
@@TwistedMacGyversTrains Getting old sure sucks Frank! 😞
Love the track layout,with the secondary track over the tunnels.
Great job.
@@BADASSxMONTExCARLOx1971 Thanks so much for the nice comments!
Love the old school engines
Thank you so much for these video presentations on these model/toy trains. I've been in the hobby since 1972 when my father and I found this interest together. One thing of interest is that the boiler dies for this 1990 700e re-issue were completely new (and made in America compared to the Italian-made dies for the original) as the original had been used so much for casting the 700e, the 763e, the 773 from the 50's and 60's, and the MPC 'postwar' re-issues of the 1980's that the detailing had become worn, tired and sloppy in appearance. A close examination of the grey 785 (cat.#1-8002) with spoked drivers by Lionel from the mid-1980's will clearly reveal these casting flaws. The most noticeable casting difference between the prewar boiler and the 1990 version is found over the windows on the cab. The original model had a more gradual curvature going from the cab side and becoming the roof, the 1990 version had a 'sharper' transition from cab side to roof which, according to Lionel, was actually more accurate than the original. The 'cow catcher' on the prewar models, both scale and semi-scale, were about 1/8th on an inch above the rails (barring and zinc 'growth', the 1990 model places the cow catcher higher, matching that of the 1950 #773. As for the tender, it is from the original prewar tender dies since that die was not used nearly as much since the prewar semi-scale and all subsequent models used differing, smaller tenders. On the right side of the tender near the back there is a dent on my original 1937 model and on my 1-700e from 1990 - same dent is present which I find amazing. The dent is identical and they do not effect the visual aesthetics of these models. Joshua Cowan had the original dies made in Italy for the single reason that at that time, Italians were the master tool and die makers. So while the original prewar models were made in America, their dies were made in Italy. I learned this back when Lionel made their re-issue 1-700e in 1990. They stated that the new boiler die was made in America so, technically (except for the tender), the 1990 scale 700e is more "American made" than is the 1937-42 versions!!
@@asdfdsa45 For some reason I just now read your comments. That's a lot of amazing information and I really appreciate it. I had a 763e Hudson back in the 1970s that I absolutely loved, but I ended up trading it for a lot of prime postwar stuff. It was one of those deals that was too good to pass up. Anyway, thanks for the info and thanks for watching and commenting. I had no idea that the 1990 Hudson was made with new dies.
@@johnlazar7582 No problem. I too was amazed when I learned this back in 1991 but it made perfect sense to me.
Right now on my layout I have my venerable 226e pulling those wonderful green 2400-series passenger cars, a great consist for Autumn.
Enjoyed your video, John, and all the information. Also enjoyed "Let's run some trains." That says it all.
That is a great consist, the 226e and the green passenger cars. I'm glad you liked the video! Thanks for watching!
thanks for sharing love the hudson
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video John! I love postwar and some of the newer stuff too, I guess I'm eclectic when it comes to Lionel trains, but Postwar is very appealing , especially the steam engine air whistle...very heartwarming!
Paul
PS I just subscribed tonight to your channel!
Thanks for subscribing, Paul! I love the postwar trains too, from 1946 to 1956 are my favorite years!
great video!!!
Thank you!
Hi john , great info.
Thank you!
I enjoyed the video. You obviously know a lot about Lionel history.
Thank you, I've been a member of the Train Collector's Association for over 45 years. Thanks for watching!
good vid thanks lee
Thanks Lee!
What about 1946 Lionel 1616?
Thanks for watching! I'm not familiar with a 1616 Lionel Hudson locomotive.
@@johnlazar7582 Sorry, my mistake. My zlionel 1666 is a "Prairie" not a Hudson. My Scale NYC Williams i believe is a Hudson.
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The 2056 lacked magnatraction because of the Korean conflict and the needs of the military.