Cosmic radiation -- a showstopper for space exploration? | Marco Durante | TEDxRheinMain

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  • @sershepard
    @sershepard 10 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    That's my dad! :D He's fantastic, I love him so much. Go, dad!

    • @frasermanley5174
      @frasermanley5174 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      cool. you should ask him what kind of power requirements would be necessary to power a magnetic field of sufficient strength, like could we achieve the field with current technology? or are the power requirements huge? I have always been curious about cosmic radiation and I know water and other passive shielding are OK for solar radiation however it's the cosmic particles that seem to be the head scratcher.

    • @mliuzzolino
      @mliuzzolino 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You have an awesome dad! He is very funny - and doing such great, interesting research! Give him a high five for me.

    • @antonbriggs5680
      @antonbriggs5680 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's not the power requirements that is difficult its the coil to generate the field.

    • @CovertGamingET
      @CovertGamingET 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're dad gave a wonderful presentation, and seems like quite a smart man with much passion. Be sure to let him know tens of thousands of people have thoroughly enjoyed his information and great humor.

    • @denirn8725
      @denirn8725 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fanatico Buona Fortuna🍀

  • @cjvince7
    @cjvince7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wonder why no one has done a 1:1 matchup between early space shielding versus what is really needed for survival? What these talks are covering was around back in pioneering times for space travel. Back in the 60s no one talked about radiation hurdles. Half a century later bad ol' radiation rears its head. This is main reason I see space travel to mooon or anywhere else as smoke and mirrors.

    • @iB4S4T4N
      @iB4S4T4N 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Precisely. Astronaught cannot leave low earth orbit.

  • @thelement3363
    @thelement3363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very very very impressive. One of the best if not the best ted x.

  • @therealbassplayinben
    @therealbassplayinben ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There are people with limited intellect that believe this presentation is proof that humans never landed on the moon.

  • @freetrailer4poor
    @freetrailer4poor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In summary, they really don't know what is going to happen. So we need guinea pigs.

  • @AlexBianco100
    @AlexBianco100 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    he's a silly man :) great presentation and very informative!

  • @jacoblordbanemastersithdes3072
    @jacoblordbanemastersithdes3072 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video

  • @georgegalamb7523
    @georgegalamb7523 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Deep space radiation is one of the main reasons among other things why I always wear my home-made "tin foil hat". Made from 100-percent pure aluminum. So far, it keep working for me now for seven years without any major issues. Double the layer for double protection! Guaranteed! How can you go wrong?

    • @armandobalance9208
      @armandobalance9208 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The irony is that the Lunar Module had a 0,15 milimiters thick crew cabin made from aluminum. That reynolds wrap allegedly protected the astronauts of radiation, the heat irradiated by the sun, and endured the extreme vacuum in space.

  • @denirn8725
    @denirn8725 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Zeolites to act as a filler if helmets or suits made w Zeolites for cosmic radiation protection? Has great filtering properties?! Maybe?

  • @thewalawalashow6399
    @thewalawalashow6399 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Penn and teller

  • @mohammedalyakoob2203
    @mohammedalyakoob2203 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    We get an average of 3000 MS of radiation every year. He said 2 !!

    • @jayford7999
      @jayford7999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you got a does of 3000 mSv, your lead-lined coffin would keep you from accessing the internet to make that post.

  • @sizzla123
    @sizzla123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No?

  • @lennyf1957
    @lennyf1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Has Elon seen this video?

  • @gligoseth_4066
    @gligoseth_4066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He reminds me of a wholesome version of doctor doofenshmirtz

  • @psycleen
    @psycleen 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    dyno sores

  • @bijanajamlou5152
    @bijanajamlou5152 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you could bioengineer something that can with layers shield against 95% of cosmic radiation. A layer of iron one for each heavier element etc. The solution is in nano structures and going light

  • @pendago8484
    @pendago8484 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the bad joke at 12:31, because radiation and the presence of particles on earth are the direct effect of magnetism (like entangled magnetic fields) on stars and sun in the first place. Everybody laughing is not really grasping the scientific issue here. That makes the joke even more pathetic.

    • @Cannongabang
      @Cannongabang 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Derk Zeedijk there is not a Scientific issue when you are making a joke about some scientific facts like "earth has a surrounding magnetic field, nobody really knows why or how, but it works nicely and might work the same way in our missions";

    • @istvansipos9940
      @istvansipos9940 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      there is no bad joke there. it is a good one

    • @qwertyuiopas4285
      @qwertyuiopas4285 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😄

  • @qwertyuiopas4285
    @qwertyuiopas4285 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dudes whole career is based on science fiction

  • @johnrobinson4445
    @johnrobinson4445 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Silicon crystals can bend the radiation around and avoid the contents of the space-craft. Google it.

  • @SuperGiannisg
    @SuperGiannisg 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    his accent is so annoying

    • @tomservo5007
      @tomservo5007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sorry that he isn't from Arkansas. You are lucky the scientific community stopped speaking German.

    • @1975reispedro1
      @1975reispedro1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you tried to speak German..

  • @youcanfoolmeonce
    @youcanfoolmeonce 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    NASA said they sent men on the moon six times without a problem! Now they say they have to solve the radiation problem BEFORE they send men to outer space. WTF! I think Marco is trying to say something...

    • @thundercactus
      @thundercactus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      that was 12 days of exposure. Going to Mars is over 2 years of exposure. Do you think maybe there's a bit more concern when receiving 61x the dose?

    • @youcanfoolmeonce
      @youcanfoolmeonce 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@thundercactus Nobody will go to Mars, ever. Space beyond the Van Allen belt is deadly, even a couple of hours through it will kill you. Why do you think they keep the levels of radiation secret?
      They are planning a hoax like the moon landing was to steal billions of dollars from taxpayers! Don't be fooled, use common sense!

    • @edinshealtiel3754
      @edinshealtiel3754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@thundercactus See were the esp admit we lost the technology to go to the moon lol....Ohh and also the video tapes lol....

    • @thundercactus
      @thundercactus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@youcanfoolmeonce the radiation levels are not a secret. Marco Durante has an excellent video on it. And the apollo missions were triangulated to the orbit of the moon by amateur HAM radio enthusiasts. Its impossible to fake live radio transmission origin points, especially in space.

    • @thundercactus
      @thundercactus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@edinshealtiel3754 they lost the tapes of apollo 11, they still have the tapes from the other 5 missions. We still have all the blueprints for everything, but we havent built a saturn V in over 50yrs. Its not as easy as just slapping some parts together. The whole rocket needs to be redesigned from scratch even to be made by modern manufacturing technology.

  • @ohmusicsweetmusic
    @ohmusicsweetmusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    We call people who don't believe in the Moon Landings crazy conspiracy theorists yet keep giving them more and more evidence.

    • @matthewford5946
      @matthewford5946 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Musique Bombarde AND FOUR SECONDS DENTAL xray?

    • @mrorangepeel659
      @mrorangepeel659 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The evidence that we never went to the Moon is overwhelming. Only the fully gaslit still believe in it...

  • @Pedro-hn7nj
    @Pedro-hn7nj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Ha! We solved the problem of deep space radiation when humans went to the Moon in 1969 to 1972.... oh, wait...

    • @briansamuel5670
      @briansamuel5670 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please elaborate

    • @docducttape9270
      @docducttape9270 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Musique Bombarde Huh? The Van Allen belts are deadly full stop. They had no radiation in the module or in their suits.
      Not to mention the tiny debris and space rocks made of all types of metal flying around a million miles an hour that would tear through anything that we sent to space back then like a bullet through butter.
      Makes me think the moon missions were fairy tales.

    • @Sneakycat1971
      @Sneakycat1971 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Musique Bombarde no one ever landed on the moon Einstein

    • @chbu7081
      @chbu7081 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@docducttape9270 Makes me think you know nothing about the Moon landings or how radiation works.

    • @1975reispedro1
      @1975reispedro1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@briansamuel5670 I will help you... We can't go easily 3 mile deep in the Ocean today and stay there more than 1 day.. And 50 years ago could go away from earth more than 150. 000 (thousand miles).. .. stud there more than 7 days. Let me guess.. You rather drive a 50 years old car..... yes.. the style is way better....

  • @notmadeofpeople4935
    @notmadeofpeople4935 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dracula

    • @rachealdennis4792
      @rachealdennis4792 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking Gru from the Despicable me movies

  • @REK1DZ
    @REK1DZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    And no one ever ask Elon Musk how does he intent to send a mission on Mars knowing Mars doesn't have electromagnetic shield and Mars atmosphere is too thin to protect astronauts from cosmic radiation. And not even talking about space vessels protection during the months long journey

    • @nicolagianaroli2024
      @nicolagianaroli2024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Nobody is allowed to do that. That would cause a huge stock market crash. Joke aside for a second. We truly live in a matrix, so sad.

    • @sticky59
      @sticky59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The focus on Mars and Musk, deflects attention from the Artemis moon mission. They are nowhere close to going to the moon, and last update I looked at they had still not come up with a viable heat resistant re entry system. Remember, everything up to this point has been low earth orbit. I seriously doubt that mission will lift off before 2030.

    • @REK1DZ
      @REK1DZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sticky59 Then do you think they should copycat the Apollo missions if they plan to get successful ?
      ;-))

    • @1960imp
      @1960imp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sticky59 "Remember, everything up to this point has been low earth orbit" No, it hasn't. Apollo re-entry speeds were much higher than LEO, and their heat shields worked perfectly well, thank you very much.

    • @user-hy3vp5kp1o
      @user-hy3vp5kp1o 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nicolagianaroli2024 A Matrix of Lies and Liars...

  • @EyesofWeegee
    @EyesofWeegee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This comment section is 30% people who enjoyed the video and 70% conspiracy theorists going "checkmate NASA shills!"

  • @pls.protect.free.speechuns5528
    @pls.protect.free.speechuns5528 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This guy is talking as if he is suggesting the necessary steps to protect humans from radiation in space BEFORE we go not AFTER we went to the moon. Hmmm.

    • @sticky59
      @sticky59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right here on YT are the video's of ISS astronauts answering questions .... and stating one day we will be able to go further than low earth orbit. How do you think the photographic film came back from the lunar surface to produce perfect images, when the camera's had no shielding ??

    • @1960imp
      @1960imp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sticky59 the cameras did have shielding, in that they were contained within the Apollo Command Module.

    • @kaiyakalaaukahi936
      @kaiyakalaaukahi936 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1960imp U must work for them mr.agent 🤐 what’s ur Ranking on the piramides

    • @1960imp
      @1960imp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaiyakalaaukahi936 no, I don't, I just do a lot of reading around the subject, which is more than a lot of people do.

    • @TheDonnrose
      @TheDonnrose 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1960imp Have you ever seen the so called Apollo Module up close and in person? I have. I'm surprised it has not been hidden away by now it is a tin can with tinfoil thick covers on it. Total joke to think that think went to the moon.

  • @jessicaandtrains7768
    @jessicaandtrains7768 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't feel like I got an answer

  • @MA-jx6in
    @MA-jx6in 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whom ever goes to Mars will end up dying

    • @jayford8479
      @jayford8479 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So will everyone else, eventually.

  • @pencilme1n
    @pencilme1n 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does anyone know what happens when your kiids get to the 'Hello Fresh' box before you?

  • @connoroshaughnessy4327
    @connoroshaughnessy4327 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We just need to invent some super sunscreen

    • @IPromiseTomorrow
      @IPromiseTomorrow 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Connor O'shaughnessy
      Keeping it simple mate i like that.

    • @sherlockeholmes9771
      @sherlockeholmes9771 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      that will only be good for the solar rays

  • @HoldenCoffield
    @HoldenCoffield ปีที่แล้ว

    So spacecrafts don't have to be metal, they can be a durable plastic with a separate motor, or modified motor to generate a magnetic field for the radiation. The same problem on Earth could be a solution in space. But then the craft would have to have a rotary piston or many stacked the lift it from the ground. But it doesn't have to be a ship. It can be a units lifted into space like a community complex, all plastic, no engines but a floating domicile outfitted for humans. It would be like a hamsters cage with tubes for add ons.

  • @davidkugel
    @davidkugel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Marco has a good sense of humor. He does not seem to take himself too seriously.

  • @sherlockeholmes9771
    @sherlockeholmes9771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the Pink Panther enters my mind. i don't know why

  • @kiddkmc3934
    @kiddkmc3934 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very informative. Thank you, sir.

  • @wholesome122
    @wholesome122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We gonna need to go full gundam in space

  • @yoskarokuto3553
    @yoskarokuto3553 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what about 18 men from apollo with only 0.1mm aluminum foil for radiation shield , they already tranfromed to fantastic 4 ?😆

  • @kingmasterlord
    @kingmasterlord 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Modulation and detection of that radiation from the human body would be telepathy. Maybe you can modulate it with the electromagnetic component of thinking. Is that what a fuckin aura is?! Is that how you feel that someone's staring at you?

  • @danglinglong2941
    @danglinglong2941 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We don't need no shield! We made it to the moon 6 times in a tin can.

    • @danglinglong2941
      @danglinglong2941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Dana William Well no the Apollo missions had no Shielding so either it was a hoax or you don't need shielding no other explanation. I'm leaning on hoax

    • @danglinglong2941
      @danglinglong2941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @C W no. Kennedy made promises that were impossible to keep at a time where the appearance of technological superiority was the main source of of keeping up America's morale. So it's not that we were more advanced but quite the opposite. We couldn't get there then and we cant get there now ..

    • @johnehteshami725
      @johnehteshami725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lucky last two Apollo missions just missed fatal dose of radiation from a solar storm!

    • @danglinglong2941
      @danglinglong2941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnehteshami725 so we're told

    • @danglinglong2941
      @danglinglong2941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnehteshami725 do you really believe that?

  • @erikcompton612
    @erikcompton612 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So.. are the Fe ions going so fast that they cannot be deflected so option 2 is thickness. how about a kilometer of hull.. say glass. melted asteroid..

    • @thundercactus
      @thundercactus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The more mass you add to a spacecraft, the lower your delta V is for the fixed amount of fuel on board.

  • @beowulfmacbethson9675
    @beowulfmacbethson9675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw Hulk in the thumbnail and now I know about Space Radiation

  • @1975reispedro1
    @1975reispedro1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hum... Everytime i watch this i think... Why they still think and believe man go to moon 50 years ago... Is ike saying i prefer older plains then new ones or compare to every other things really ... His speach is great and smart.. 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟( 5 stars to him)

    • @thundercactus
      @thundercactus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      well if you actually watched the video, you'd know that the radiation level of space is easily survivable and quite safe for a short 2 week mission with minimal shielding.
      The problem with Mars missions is they are 3 years long at the moment, that's 78x the exposure.

    • @adytos9333
      @adytos9333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thundercactus Nobody went to the moon

  • @alexcsaszy4469
    @alexcsaszy4469 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a me, Marco!

  • @natentreyable
    @natentreyable 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You.

  • @olivermoro174
    @olivermoro174 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    INTELLIGENTE E SIMPATICO BELLA COMBINAZIONE

  • @quatermass8
    @quatermass8 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder what the mass would be for the equipment needed to generate a protective magnetic field around a spacecraft?

    • @Cannongabang
      @Cannongabang 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sukram Sukram well the main problem is storing energy: you need a lot of energy to produce strong current enough to surround ships with magnetic fields; and the strong current needs strong batteries.. just think about the number of solar Panels one would need. My guess: maybe surrounding the ship with a thick layer of water (between some containing material, glass/metal), 1mt long maybe, would help absorbing ions/protons from the solar winds; This could work in far enough missions like going to Mars, while going closer to the sun would mean too much thickness of water needed.. but your solar panels there work better so yeah; it is probably inefficient but still might work

    • @G-ra-ha-m
      @G-ra-ha-m 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No energy is needed to maintain a magnetic field, look at permanent magnets.
      If you want to use an electromagnet you need superconducting coils.
      A superconductor coil is probably the way forward.

  • @TheTrumanZoo
    @TheTrumanZoo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    here is a possible solution: create your own vacuum in the hull.... vacuums have no mass themselves yet protect because radiation can not pass a vacuum.. no medium to pass it through. just like a vacuum flask keeps your coffee hot, and the heat can not escape outside.... a double wall then pull a vacuum in between the hull....
    solution 2: create a thicker human skin biologically using dna. a thicker skin can replace bulky space suits. thicker skin will look less red because of less blood flow in the skin, better protection from radiation... it will look a little more greyish, maybe grow some biological dark sun glasses to protect the eyes... and living in space will make us a little longer and more slender, like those grey tall alien figures... i guess they solved the problem for us before we knew we had the problem.

    • @klimkapuka3869
      @klimkapuka3869 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      kleintjuhD correct me if I'm wrong but space is vacuum....and there is still radiation there..

    • @TheTrumanZoo
      @TheTrumanZoo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      have yo checked yourself? and, oke, maybe there is, but our eyes can never see it.... and if there is no matter, there can be no light falling on it....

    • @klimkapuka3869
      @klimkapuka3869 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      kleintjuhD see what? radiation?

    • @TheTrumanZoo
      @TheTrumanZoo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      we can only see about 0,035% of the entire spectrum..... i would not call 0,035% of an apple, a apple...
      but anyways, they cant seem to get a perfect vacuum on earth, they havnt even proven this absolute empty space yet....
      i think the radiation, like light, IS like a leak for a vacuum. i think the light introduces new electrons INSIDE the vacuum. i think they can get a much better vacuum, a more empty space, if they shielded the vacuum off from radiation, or killed the lights inside to not introduce new electrons into the vacuum... light might be like a leak. but anyways, a crooks tube has bee misinterpreted. the crooks tube proves that if there is no matter, there is no light.... as light can only be seen, the moment of impact, with a solid enough surface, for light.... the crooks tube was said to have a dark spot spread inside the tube, i say if you pump out all matter, light can not fall on it anymore. i dont think a absolute vacuum can support any visible light, for longer distances through it, hence i dont believe there is any visible light in space, unless there is an object, like a atmosphere (blue glow) or planet, and you are close to it. the reason space is dark, IS because there is no matter there.... we observe the ABSENCE of matter, hence darkness.. thus the projection moves invisible through space, the nhits our atmosphere, where it is first seen by us on the surface, on the refractive edge. i think the sun, moon and stars are all seen and observed close to earth for the first time and not in between events in space.

    • @klimkapuka3869
      @klimkapuka3869 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      kleintjuhD space is made up of 70% of dark matter, we just haven't discovered the properties of dark matter yet. And plus light doesn't need particles to travel. Light consists of photons which are given energy to travel...

  • @johnpettitt
    @johnpettitt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good topic. Terrible presentation. So give us the energy requirements for magnetic shielding, give us info on hurdles. Stop with the stand up comedy!!!

    • @trusevich
      @trusevich 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes, he started a lot of interesting topics, but didn't finish any of them, just jumping to next all the time

    • @1975reispedro1
      @1975reispedro1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Some people need to be smarter to understand his way of saying some corpoo lied about many things.
      Some people prefer to follow their (nasa) answer rather to study the properties of metal like aluminum, stell and even carbon related to ions particul or x-ray (like he referred ). People prefer to be lied to then to know the truth ( this is very curious because we born and not knowing we easily lie... and our parents insisted that the thuth is more rewarding)

  • @CoyoteFugly
    @CoyoteFugly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What I wonder is if the moon is relatively close to the same age as the earth wouldn't 4.5 billion years without a magnetic field to protect it made the moon radioactive?

    • @sherlockeholmes9771
      @sherlockeholmes9771 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think the radiation 'dies' (half-life?). because if we go by your reasoning, then Earth, and everything in space will be 'radioactive' although to a lesser degree(because at least Earth has some shielding)

    • @grimlocks
      @grimlocks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes. The moon is as radiant as the Elephant's foot. It is constantly bombarded with cosmic particles and the solar wind. We are protected by the magnetoshpere.

    • @normanguiscard3458
      @normanguiscard3458 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grimlocks its not 3.6 rem?

    • @grimlocks
      @grimlocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@normanguiscard3458 I believe the exposure could be equivalent to 80 grays per hour. I don't know the unit conversion to REM.

    • @normanguiscard3458
      @normanguiscard3458 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grimlocks 80 grays = 8000 REM
      thats for gamma radiation