Coming on either Friday or Sat is the improved Ice Spikes that took me to T100 so look out for that, it's a really cool twist on it that works so well!
Everyone playing this build, please try to get as much attack speed as possible. More attack speed = more conjurations = more damage, speed, mana. Replace Storm's Swell Aspect (currently bugged) with Aspect of Ancient Flame and change your key passive to Esu's Ferocity Use Frozen Orb enchantment together with either Frost Nova or Ice Blades.
@@toulee6737 Its technically not bugged, just outdated. Storm Swell (and all other Aspects and Paragon nodes that grant '[×]% damage against Vulnerable' only multiply ur vulnerable damage stat. Theyre not separate multipliers. Lets say you have 400 close dmg, 300 cold dmg, 500 crit dmg and 200 vulnerable damage. These all get added up and then all external multipliers get calculated. So youd expect (500+400+300+200) 1400% base damage * [×]30% (storm swell) = 1820% damage. However since it only does the 30% bonus to vulnerable you end up with 500+400+300+(200*[x]30%) =1460. 1460 is only 60 more than our base 1400 so in this example it only adds 4%, not 30%
Storm Swell and bonus vulnerability damage is "bugged" right now, it's only modifying the 20% vulnerability bonus damage rather than increasing damage against vulnerable targets so it's nearly worthless. Try a two hander with Frozen Orbit instead, it gives you another damage multiplier as you'll get extra orbs that will have higher base damage.
Storm swell and allso the ice blades aspect is bugged. Did not know that vulnerable damage rolls on gear and tempering was bugged to.. that's a shame since I have alot of that on.
This is a great build. Followed it to a tee, currently at lvl 90 and I’m doing NMD70s without a problem. Only have 5 glyphs on 15. Boss damage is great, did Duriel solo at lvl 82. Also: at lvl 81 did a Pit 21 (enemies 120 or about) and slayed it, without Holy Bolt. This is a very powerful and above all fun build. Your whole screen explodes and when you advance you still see ice explosions happening on the next screen. Thanks Ragegaming! Your blueball build in S2 already was great but this one is even more fun.
PLEASE come out with a updated meteor build. There's basically no info on it and I've been loving mine. I have a frozen orb sorc and loving that too, but would love some updated info for those few that are interested in making meteor still shine this season :) great video as always!
@schmidth The problem with that is for many Zir isn't dropping fractured. I killed him at least 15 times and got everything else twice, except winterglass. I'm just fortune to get it from the wolves cache. It's 900 power and does the job but I'm hoping I'll get a 925 via a NMD or as a pit reward...
@@borg111 it's still by far the best way to get it if you specifically need it, I've seen like 5 in 20 kills. The chance is vastly higher for uniques when target farming them, but I'm an osrs player so I'm used to ridiculous drop rates and wouldn't give up even after 100 kills dry
@@schmidth You're right. It finally dropped for me yesterday after I decided to use all of the Exquisite Blood clogging up my inventory. Blizzard is watching...
IMHO, this is the best Frozen Orb build at the moment. Balanced and versatile. You can start putting it together while leveling up and it will feel good. You can farm nightmare dungeons to upgrade your sigils and it will feel good. You can push pit levels and it will still feel good unlike the other FO builds circulating around will infuriate you somewhere between NMD 60 and the early pit levels.
I love sorcerer/mage classes, I like D4 and this channel always seems to deliver a build that makes playing a sorcerer really fun. I created a new character and levelled up to 53 today following this guide. The build was ok until I got the amulet Fractured Winterglass - jesus - that one item put the build into overdrive. I accidentally did the same nightmare dungeon before and after getting the amulet and the boss went down slowly but surely without it but I DELETED the boss with it haha - keep up the good work Josh!!! (if that's your name) Love this channel.
Thanks ! I was able to push up to lvl 69 pit with this build. After that, bosses are quite impossible for me, maybe I need better gear, but it gets really tedious. The only viable Sorcerer for S4 is the "infinite barrier" I guess, but it's a build heavy dependent on uniques&uber-uniques, and perfect gear. There was one guy online here in Europe last Sunday that killed hundreds of players in the fields of hatred with an invulnerable sorc build. He had flame shield on 99% of the time and was obviously impossible to kill, it all felt .. kinda dumb overall.
So I'm a barb main never played anything else till this season. First time playing sorc mainly because of all your videos, this is the build I started with, it's alot of fun. I'll be trying the others at some point thank you.
I respecced from blizzard just for fun. Yes, groups of mobs die faster. BUT single target is still a big problem. I fly in moments to the boss in pits, and then... minutes and minutes a boss fight in relative low tears(80-90). And because boss fights take soo long the chance you get 1-shotted by an echo or whatever is very large. So this is way more fun, but if you wanna go push the pit the only way to go is blizzard imo.... Nice video, it convinced me to respec just for fun, keep it up!
Just a couple of ideas while watching. You can save a skill point on invoked lightning spear as you don’t need to be stunning things as they are already frozen. You can also take points off of Hoarfrost since bosses can’t be frozen. It is too situational and the attack speed from unstable currents can be used against frozen elites and bosses. You will also get a free point from flame shield when wearing a shako. But that’s not gonna happen soon for most of us. Lbh Speaking of Uniques while I love Tal Rasha’s ring as much as the next Sorcerer. It just doesn’t keep up with a super well rolled Legendary ring since Tempering now lets us have 5 affixes instead of the 4 you’re locked into on a Unique. Plus you can run a shredding blades aspect and get 30% vulnerable damage. Now all you have to do is temper for an affix that gives at least a 30% damage boost to be better than Tal Rasha’s.
The stun from lightning spear is one of the ways you build stagger against bosses, which is the only way orb can really even try to push pits very far. It's not there for the trash mobs as much, although it does help there as well.
You want the stun for stagger on bosses, you wan't Hoarfrost for how tanky even trash gets in Pit 100+ & for boss staggers and Tal Rasha's 60% Multi is better than the extra affix on top of an extra source of very valuable CDR also shredding blades is broken and doesn't give you any damage.
Have you tried a dagger instead of a wand? You'll get implicit close damage which is probably better than the implicit lucky hit chance from a wand? Frozen Orb doesn't have a very high lucky hit chance anyway so the % increase from a wand isn't too beneficial.
nice general builds, usual build, I delete bosses, i pull acp points from protection and invest into the chill aspect... chill is the function in all cold damage that builds that stun bar... just like Ice spikes apply chill aspect that stuns in seconds.. boss stuns, damage, boss stunned again. lol small advice
I just tried replacing the broken Storm Swell with several other Aspects and you know which one gave me surprising results? Blood Boiling for overpower. It really helped me chip away at boss health much quicker than anything else. You should try that one.
Something to note, once you get a really good 2 GA legendary ring (Attack speed/Crit, Attack speed/Intel, or Intel/Crit in that priority order) you can replace Talrasha’s ring and then run esu’s ferocity with the aspect and profit for more damage. How it would breakdown is 135 Intel = 13.5% damage 13.5% attack speed = 13.5% damage 12% Crit = 12% damage (These attack speed and crit chance “damage” conversion is ballparked as additional damage) Then + 50% attack speed from esu’s ferocity aspect would outdamage a 45% damage buff from talrashas. This requires a lot of luck on your end but in terms of actual endgame, esu’s ferocity will net you more damage because you will also get more active conjugations due to more orbs being thrown TLDR 3GA Legendary ring (Intel/Crit/Attack speed) > 2GA (duh) > Talrasha > 1GA
so i'm doing a hydra version of this....main focus hydra, but using frozen orb and fractured winterglass to get a ton of conjurations....I'm maxing out conjuration mastery at 13-14. (still can get a +3 conjuration master FW) But I dropped ice shield and teleport. making way through the pit but haven't maxed out yet.
I did the pit 107 today with frozen orb. Still had 7 mins left. I will try to hit 110 tomorrow. I have no DR or HP, pure glass cannon. Flame shield makes me immortal. Just focus on flame shield uptime, and once you hit that sweet spot with 100% uptime you can throw away all DR and resists as you dont need them.
You can get way more conjurations with attack speed 100% attack speed you will get up to 14 without iceblades passive with you'll get to 16+ during boss fights also Unstable currents for boss fights during stagger phase is crazy extra damage. Also Winterglas can go to +4 if its +2 base which is an extra 12% damage total compared to +3 and GA will go to +5
I did recently switch to blizzard as I go deeper in the pit. Frozen orb was fun though and glad a new boost was found for bosses. I look forward to the best meteor build you can make, I understand it won't be the top dog, meteors are just fun to play. Even if I have to get all the mastercrafted mats from the Blizzard build I want to have a best in slot Meteor one!
Ironically I've been running this build sorta... Was using your Frozen Orb build but was missing: Tibault's Will So I have made the modification of using Avalanche to help with mana, and I noticed the Hydra's spawning so I swapped into summoned hydra... and tried Ice Blade passive for the cooldown bonus. Whole time I've been like "can't wait to run the build the right way lmao!!" I got a fractured winterglass drop that is 49% and 68% on the key Affixes and that has been carrying me. Now... I'm thinking if I adjust my build to this video it's going to get even better... unreal.
Thank you ! This has fixed my issue with single target. However I am running the godslayer helm in place of Tibault's Will (im unlucky and dont have one yet lol) and its working just fine! Looking forward to your other builds as well.
Why not put shredding blades instead of storm swell? You get the same damage multiplier without needing a barrier and you also increase vulnerability uptime? Then you can take the other frozen orb upgrade to get more mana when fighting packs.
Thumb up for finaly obtaining it. I've seen recetly you were saying about it. ...Nevertheless, it's been few voideos since I decided to sub, cuz your excitement to me personaly its annoying without specific reason, but I realy admire the content so you earned a loat with that. P.S.
You say that we have unlimited mana, but somehow I don't? I cast like two or three times and I'm completely out of mana. What is it exactly that is supposed to give us unlimited mana? My items + aspects are exactly as they are in your build (including all uniques), my skill tree is the same, my paragon board is the same, all glyphs are lvl 15+ .... I don't understand why I'm out of mana so fast and you're not?
it's funny how differently i look build 1st of i dont want hybrid builds i just want to use pure frozen orb. with blizz enchantment so im gettting mana regen also using ice barrier to get more regen too havent seen huge problems while playing. and i thought ppl saying frozen orb kills bosses slow i dont know i dont feel like that. ihad so mutch fun so far.
I usually don't say anything on videos but two things 1) what essences and elixers are you using to get that damage and 2) I would love to see a new good druid build soon 😥 love the content and builds as always though 👍
Hi, thx for this video ! I'm asking myslef why not using territory glyphs ? If you play with damage on close range, give you damage and damage reduction, maybe swap the enchantment glyph ?
hey man i love your videos and followed your incinerate leveling build for the sorc and am loving it, i have managed to get it to tick for around 900,000 burning damage a second. do you know if there would be a fire based build for endgame? the reason i ask is because i would like to push endgame content but would rather stay away from the vast majority of what i see people doing (ice spike, ball lightning, frozen orb). this is because we have a couple of sorcs in our party and it get kinda boring when the "end game best build" is just copied and pasted onto 3 people if this is even possible rn that would be really cool0. again love the work and keep up the amazing job :)
@@RageGamingVideos Oh man. Hope we see this soon. Loving Incinerate and don't really want to move to frost with all the broken stuff regarding vulnerable enemies.
Great video Josh. I am glad you pointed out the synergy between movement speed from conjuration mastery and Esu's heirloom. I need to give this a try.... I am very curious to see the upcoming ball lightning build. I am playing ball lightning and tried to use it with Winterglass (with frozen orb and lightning spears as passives) but the results were not great. That said my character was not L100 at the time.
so currently running this build and new to builds in general, my mana goes out pretty quickly. is it gear stats or the cooldown reduction that helps with that? sorry if it was answered in the video
Man, ANY build where you're not "forced" to use the FB enchant is worth a look. Bonus points if it turns out to be a good build as well! As for a request - do you think it's possible to make a decently good Charged Bolt build?
As FrostOrbs wizard i can say that this spe is really fun to play but suck as fuck when the boss coming my fresh barbar without masterworking just blasting Pit85-90 in provably 3-4min when my wizard take 5-6min to finish. The only problem is the boss. Frozen orbs was to nerfed after the PTR
To guys using maxroll fbolt sorc, it's plug and play for the most part, even if you just adjust talents and enchantment the difference in single target is insane
Cant wait for ball lightning! Ive been running my own ramshackled version this season and been having a ton of fun, it’s truly just enjoyable to play. It will be awesome to use a real build.
This build slaps. had to do some nightmare dungeons for 2 glyphs. It's not as optimized as yours. But I do have most of it down. Still on Godslayer Crown tho. But had to try Duriel, and he was gone super fast!
Bro, you are a beast! YES LITERALLY WORKING NIGHT AND DAY! Appreciate you, man. I test all your builds, and they work phenomenal. Blizzard was great, frozen orb was great, incinerate was great! Lol, I tested a ball lighting build from maxroll.. I'm like, naaahhh 😅 I'm going to try this upgraded FO tomorrow. Appreciate you again, man.
I've checked the Paragon Board of this build and the second Glyph is Elementalist 40/40 Intelligence but following your board it leaves me at 20/40 Intelli.
That's wicked! I still think Arc Lash/Teleport with Melted Heart and Raiment is the most fun (if you don't want to use more than 4 skills. It's a lazy build that'll get you to 80+ Rifts.
I'm still building on top of your incinerate build from days ago I've modified it alot I'm pushing past it lvl 75 and still melting mobs and bosses like you I'm a theory crafter
Bro it works bananas. Now we talking and also my mana problem got solved because so many ice blades. I got 10 stocks of conjuration mastery and that give a lot of mana regeneration ❤
Why greater frozen orb? With decent gear, you constantly have so many ice blades and lightning spears out, that everything is already vulnerable from those.
Can someone please elaborate on the "infinite mana" part? I keep running out of mana, but I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. What's the mana regen source? the conjurations? crit? lucky hit?
Giving it a shot. My build cleares trash very good, boss damage is "fine" as well, but at like level 60 there will be stuff that oneshots me. Most frustraiting stuff is - sometimes I cant even tell what killed me, I just... die...
This is where I'm at RN too, level 60 I can kill boss relatively quickly but will randomly get one shot. Was already doing the hydra burning and have ice blades enchant instead. Will play around with a bit of this method
How effective is this build if I'm only just into Tier 3? I'm level 58 or so, can I still spec the majority of skills and imprint my items where possible and still get good use out of it without it being 100%?
Instead I used frost nova in enchanting Aldo vampire exploding balks. Spec in alot vulnerable. Everything including bosses dies fast . I just have survivability issues.
I know its a lot to ask but on mobalytics could you add a tab with ubers and aspect placement. I have a star ring and a shaco but not sure about aspects that would be useful important important
I haven't touched the season at all. this video has finally made me want to play Diablo 4 in seasons. If I'm just playing Sorc, what should I do to farm for the necklace before I can swap into this build? And what order should I farm stuff?
Question: Is "%Vulnerable Damage" calculated differently than just "%Damage"? I got a 45% Damage wand and a 40% Vulnerable Damage one. Since Damage is general it seems to be better or am i wrong and should go with the 40% Vulnerable instead?
i suggest you using vulnerable dmg. without knowing youre amounts of the char, nobody can tell you if youre in a good balance of the different dmg output sources.. but to invest in more different types is usually better than just maxing one of it. its like with finances IRL, you want to have more sources..
@@bigbong07 again, there is Like a Balance of Chance Related to damage.. it doesn‘t make Sense to Max dmg with nearly no Chance to proc this type.. between those two options you Said i would pick Lucky Chance since you have quite a lot of combonations that benefit from more Lucky Hits while normal crit chance is kinda easy to get as an affix
Since you do know the ice spike build already I'm assuming, which would you go for if you're in early endgame of this vs a Ice Spikes as a way to start pushing pit/boss farming.
I love mage but what I never understand in any build is how it looks that no one ever needs mana.. I got like 24 mana reg in all my gear and im instantly oom.
I switched over to this version of the Frozen Orb build, from a 2 handed firebolt version, last night and the difference was night and day. How genius yet simple... replace the firebolt enchantment with something else because you already get fire applied to most enemies, especially bosses. Here's a question on something I just thought about but am not able to test until tonight. What if you replace the lightning spear on your bar with hydras. You could potentially keep 2 up at all times giving you one additional conjuration at all times compared to the lightning spear. Only downside I can see with that would be that it would be one less cooldown running which would possibly mean fewer ice blades running. I'm not sure if it would be better, worse, or equal.
Worse, I tested hydra on bar. I actually ended up opting for the “every cast of lightning Spear spawns 2 and gives 25% to light damage” aspect and that solved my need for immediate +2 conj mastery like you mentioned Still using that aspect and my ice blades didn’t take a hit, 10/10 enjoying it. I don’t use Tals ring and subbed that from build above give it a try works great
The real question is, is frozen orb and fire beam only meta in this season.? Do “meta abilities” change every season.? Like example do avalanche still work as good as last season.? And if this is true how do you know every season which is the best ability for the season.? Sorry I’m new to diablo
dumb question, i got 2 helmets, one that copies yours, Intell-cooldownreduction- MPS. and i got another helmet that has Int-MPS- and it also has 3+ conjuration skills, would the conjuration ranks be worth more than the cooldown? i already have enough cooldown and my abilities come up quick and ialmost have 100% uptime of barrier ice and fireshield. thanks in advanced
Hi. Thank you! It helped me a lot while really struggling with Frozen Orb. I followed the guide but i am stuck at 394 willpower and 435 dexterity, this isn't enough to get the bonusses on the rare nodes. What am I missing?
Frozen orb is the best build sorc has, even better than firebolt for the pit, because this build can also get 100% flameshield uptime. Then you can just sit infront of the boss and orb him down without dodging bullshit shadows Also stormswell is bugged at the moment it does only 16% instead of 30% damage
Question: Would swapping out the 2nd Legendary ring (the one that's not Tal Rasha) and instead using the unique ring Blue Rose increase damage? Also how are you keeping mana up constantly? Ive copied the build exactly and Im constantly running out of mana.
Coming on either Friday or Sat is the improved Ice Spikes that took me to T100 so look out for that, it's a really cool twist on it that works so well!
Cannot waiiiiit! I hope we can solo some tormented bosses plssss. Tks as always the best content🎉
@@caxcorp It solo'd Andariel in 30 seconds so I'd say so!
Cooooool cause as my other comment says I traded perfect frozen orb gear for this build lol
@RageGamingVideos I think I just found out what the swap for the ice spike build is.... lol it was quick but I heard what you said
You lowdown no good dirty bastard I just gave up on the Sork moved to the rogue and now I’m about to go to the store again thanks buddy
Everyone playing this build, please try to get as much attack speed as possible. More attack speed = more conjurations = more damage, speed, mana.
Replace Storm's Swell Aspect (currently bugged) with Aspect of Ancient Flame and change your key passive to Esu's Ferocity
Use Frozen Orb enchantment together with either Frost Nova or Ice Blades.
So what’s better?? Electric or fire??? Cuz I’m struggling at 61 sorcerer
What's the bug for storm swell?
Ancient flame works well for me
@@denullyyou need regen not cost reduction
@@toulee6737 Its technically not bugged, just outdated. Storm Swell (and all other Aspects and Paragon nodes that grant '[×]% damage against Vulnerable' only multiply ur vulnerable damage stat. Theyre not separate multipliers.
Lets say you have 400 close dmg, 300 cold dmg, 500 crit dmg and 200 vulnerable damage. These all get added up and then all external multipliers get calculated. So youd expect (500+400+300+200) 1400% base damage * [×]30% (storm swell) = 1820% damage.
However since it only does the 30% bonus to vulnerable you end up with 500+400+300+(200*[x]30%) =1460.
1460 is only 60 more than our base 1400 so in this example it only adds 4%, not 30%
Storm Swell and bonus vulnerability damage is "bugged" right now, it's only modifying the 20% vulnerability bonus damage rather than increasing damage against vulnerable targets so it's nearly worthless. Try a two hander with Frozen Orbit instead, it gives you another damage multiplier as you'll get extra orbs that will have higher base damage.
well that sucks a fat dick, i've been leaning on vuln to scale my shadow minion nec.
Storm swell and allso the ice blades aspect is bugged. Did not know that vulnerable damage rolls on gear and tempering was bugged to.. that's a shame since I have alot of that on.
Thank you for bringing this up, I was not aware of this. I am going to replace storm swell for aspect of control and see what happens.
@@baldis12 How is the iceblades aspect bugged? Just the damage part?
@@puluzu Yes, Shredding Blades bonus damage is bugged as well. Same with gear and the exploit glyph. The non-damage part works, but that's really it.
This is a great build. Followed it to a tee, currently at lvl 90 and I’m doing NMD70s without a problem. Only have 5 glyphs on 15. Boss damage is great, did Duriel solo at lvl 82. Also: at lvl 81 did a Pit 21 (enemies 120 or about) and slayed it, without Holy Bolt.
This is a very powerful and above all fun build. Your whole screen explodes and when you advance you still see ice explosions happening on the next screen.
Thanks Ragegaming! Your blueball build in S2 already was great but this one is even more fun.
PLEASE come out with a updated meteor build. There's basically no info on it and I've been loving mine. I have a frozen orb sorc and loving that too, but would love some updated info for those few that are interested in making meteor still shine this season :) great video as always!
Meteor is really struggling but I am trying!
You can get +5 int instead of +5 str right next to the icefall node.
I got a fractured winter glass from a season journey unique reward cache. I’m so glad I can finally make this build.
Bro me too and holy moly it was max up at 50% chance
If you don't get it that way you can always just kill the boss that has a boosted chance of dropping it. For that neck I believe lord zir is the one.
@schmidth The problem with that is for many Zir isn't dropping fractured. I killed him at least 15 times and got everything else twice, except winterglass. I'm just fortune to get it from the wolves cache. It's 900 power and does the job but I'm hoping I'll get a 925 via a NMD or as a pit reward...
@@borg111 it's still by far the best way to get it if you specifically need it, I've seen like 5 in 20 kills. The chance is vastly higher for uniques when target farming them, but I'm an osrs player so I'm used to ridiculous drop rates and wouldn't give up even after 100 kills dry
@@schmidth You're right. It finally dropped for me yesterday after I decided to use all of the Exquisite Blood clogging up my inventory. Blizzard is watching...
IMHO, this is the best Frozen Orb build at the moment. Balanced and versatile. You can start putting it together while leveling up and it will feel good.
You can farm nightmare dungeons to upgrade your sigils and it will feel good.
You can push pit levels and it will still feel good unlike the other FO builds circulating around will infuriate you somewhere between NMD 60 and the early pit levels.
was searching and trying different builds. yours working perfectly. thanks
I love sorcerer/mage classes, I like D4 and this channel always seems to deliver a build that makes playing a sorcerer really fun. I created a new character and levelled up to 53 today following this guide. The build was ok until I got the amulet Fractured Winterglass - jesus - that one item put the build into overdrive. I accidentally did the same nightmare dungeon before and after getting the amulet and the boss went down slowly but surely without it but I DELETED the boss with it haha - keep up the good work Josh!!! (if that's your name) Love this channel.
Thanks ! I was able to push up to lvl 69 pit with this build. After that, bosses are quite impossible for me, maybe I need better gear, but it gets really tedious. The only viable Sorcerer for S4 is the "infinite barrier" I guess, but it's a build heavy dependent on uniques&uber-uniques, and perfect gear. There was one guy online here in Europe last Sunday that killed hundreds of players in the fields of hatred with an invulnerable sorc build. He had flame shield on 99% of the time and was obviously impossible to kill, it all felt .. kinda dumb overall.
So I'm a barb main never played anything else till this season. First time playing sorc mainly because of all your videos, this is the build I started with, it's alot of fun. I'll be trying the others at some point thank you.
Thanks to all who replied to my comment. I finally got the Fractured Winterglass amulet and the build is now working for me. I absolutely love it! 😊
I respecced from blizzard just for fun. Yes, groups of mobs die faster. BUT single target is still a big problem. I fly in moments to the boss in pits, and then... minutes and minutes a boss fight in relative low tears(80-90). And because boss fights take soo long the chance you get 1-shotted by an echo or whatever is very large.
So this is way more fun, but if you wanna go push the pit the only way to go is blizzard imo....
Nice video, it convinced me to respec just for fun, keep it up!
Just a couple of ideas while watching. You can save a skill point on invoked lightning spear as you don’t need to be stunning things as they are already frozen.
You can also take points off of Hoarfrost since bosses can’t be frozen. It is too situational and the attack speed from unstable currents can be used against frozen elites and bosses.
You will also get a free point from flame shield when wearing a shako. But that’s not gonna happen soon for most of us. Lbh
Speaking of Uniques while I love Tal Rasha’s ring as much as the next Sorcerer. It just doesn’t keep up with a super well rolled Legendary ring since Tempering now lets us have 5 affixes instead of the 4 you’re locked into on a Unique. Plus you can run a shredding blades aspect and get 30% vulnerable damage. Now all you have to do is temper for an affix that gives at least a 30% damage boost to be better than Tal Rasha’s.
The stun from lightning spear is one of the ways you build stagger against bosses, which is the only way orb can really even try to push pits very far. It's not there for the trash mobs as much, although it does help there as well.
You want the stun for stagger on bosses, you wan't Hoarfrost for how tanky even trash gets in Pit 100+ & for boss staggers and Tal Rasha's 60% Multi is better than the extra affix on top of an extra source of very valuable CDR also shredding blades is broken and doesn't give you any damage.
Love this build! already at T67 Pit! Thanks for the work you put into this stuff! Statistics always give me a headache! :-)
Man i wish you used the Maxroll template for these builds !!
Ya I'm not a fan of Moby for builds at all and get all mine from maxroll, so much more details
true that
Just use the maxroll planner and do it yourself :D probably worth it
Yeah, plus not that weird goblin voice
Have you tried a dagger instead of a wand? You'll get implicit close damage which is probably better than the implicit lucky hit chance from a wand? Frozen Orb doesn't have a very high lucky hit chance anyway so the % increase from a wand isn't too beneficial.
Your Build is awesome!!! Finally a build who is fun again on Sorc Frozen Orb
nice general builds, usual build, I delete bosses, i pull acp points from protection and invest into the chill aspect... chill is the function in all cold damage that builds that stun bar... just like Ice spikes apply chill aspect that stuns in seconds.. boss stuns, damage, boss stunned again. lol small advice
I just tried replacing the broken Storm Swell with several other Aspects and you know which one gave me surprising results? Blood Boiling for overpower. It really helped me chip away at boss health much quicker than anything else. You should try that one.
Something to note, once you get a really good 2 GA legendary ring (Attack speed/Crit, Attack speed/Intel, or Intel/Crit in that priority order) you can replace Talrasha’s ring and then run esu’s ferocity with the aspect and profit for more damage.
How it would breakdown is
135 Intel = 13.5% damage
13.5% attack speed = 13.5% damage
12% Crit = 12% damage
(These attack speed and crit chance “damage” conversion is ballparked as additional damage)
Then + 50% attack speed from esu’s ferocity aspect would outdamage a 45% damage buff from talrashas.
This requires a lot of luck on your end but in terms of actual endgame, esu’s ferocity will net you more damage because you will also get more active conjugations due to more orbs being thrown
TLDR
3GA Legendary ring (Intel/Crit/Attack speed) > 2GA (duh) > Talrasha > 1GA
Lol. Bonus from talrusha is multiplicative. But your bonuses from int and attack speed is additive.
@@Tom-xr4qy go check out goldfarmingGUIDE as he explains it better than I do 😂
how hydras are spawning? its cos of aspect or?
Thanks dude! I feel so much better on my frozen orb now =)
so i'm doing a hydra version of this....main focus hydra, but using frozen orb and fractured winterglass to get a ton of conjurations....I'm maxing out conjuration mastery at 13-14. (still can get a +3 conjuration master FW) But I dropped ice shield and teleport. making way through the pit but haven't maxed out yet.
I did the pit 107 today with frozen orb. Still had 7 mins left. I will try to hit 110 tomorrow. I have no DR or HP, pure glass cannon. Flame shield makes me immortal. Just focus on flame shield uptime, and once you hit that sweet spot with 100% uptime you can throw away all DR and resists as you dont need them.
You can get way more conjurations with attack speed 100% attack speed you will get up to 14 without iceblades passive with you'll get to 16+ during boss fights also Unstable currents for boss fights during stagger phase is crazy extra damage. Also Winterglas can go to +4 if its +2 base which is an extra 12% damage total compared to +3 and GA will go to +5
So use esu’s ferocity and aspect of ancient flame in place of storm swell?
I did recently switch to blizzard as I go deeper in the pit. Frozen orb was fun though and glad a new boost was found for bosses. I look forward to the best meteor build you can make, I understand it won't be the top dog, meteors are just fun to play. Even if I have to get all the mastercrafted mats from the Blizzard build I want to have a best in slot Meteor one!
Thank you so much for this Frozen Orb v2, it's great fun to play with...
Had to comment one more time. KILLER! and thank you. Bosses go down with EASE now.
Thx for the build bud... was a mad grind to kill lvl 91 pit boss.. now he's just another mild annoyance 😂
Ironically I've been running this build sorta...
Was using your Frozen Orb build but was missing: Tibault's Will
So I have made the modification of using Avalanche to help with mana, and I noticed the Hydra's spawning so I swapped into summoned hydra... and tried Ice Blade passive for the cooldown bonus.
Whole time I've been like "can't wait to run the build the right way lmao!!"
I got a fractured winterglass drop that is 49% and 68% on the key Affixes and that has been carrying me.
Now... I'm thinking if I adjust my build to this video it's going to get even better... unreal.
If you have both Shako and Ring of Starless Skies which aspect do we drop? Storm's Swell right?
Thank you ! This has fixed my issue with single target. However I am running the godslayer helm in place of Tibault's Will (im unlucky and dont have one yet lol) and its working just fine! Looking forward to your other builds as well.
Do you still need one? I have few for free
Why not put shredding blades instead of storm swell? You get the same damage multiplier without needing a barrier and you also increase vulnerability uptime? Then you can take the other frozen orb upgrade to get more mana when fighting packs.
I’ve been trying to get this to work but can’t play a ton… not even lv100 yet. Thanks for doing all the work for me. Sub and liked for sure
how do the hydras spawn when you dont activly cast them?
Thumb up for finaly obtaining it. I've seen recetly you were saying about it. ...Nevertheless, it's been few voideos since I decided to sub, cuz your excitement to me personaly its annoying without specific reason, but I realy admire the content so you earned a loat with that.
P.S.
You say that we have unlimited mana, but somehow I don't? I cast like two or three times and I'm completely out of mana.
What is it exactly that is supposed to give us unlimited mana? My items + aspects are exactly as they are in your build (including all uniques),
my skill tree is the same, my paragon board is the same, all glyphs are lvl 15+ .... I don't understand why I'm out of mana so fast and you're not?
You need a ton of mana per second. Chest and helm + mana regen
Same.
it's funny how differently i look build 1st of i dont want hybrid builds i just want to use pure frozen orb. with blizz enchantment so im gettting mana regen also using ice barrier to get more regen too havent seen huge problems while playing. and i thought ppl saying frozen orb kills bosses slow i dont know i dont feel like that. ihad so mutch fun so far.
I usually don't say anything on videos but two things 1) what essences and elixers are you using to get that damage and 2) I would love to see a new good druid build soon 😥 love the content and builds as always though 👍
Is this tanky enough for tormented bosse?
You have no idea how much u just changed my game exp! Waaaaauw! BIG LIKE!
Hi, thx for this video ! I'm asking myslef why not using territory glyphs ? If you play with damage on close range, give you damage and damage reduction, maybe swap the enchantment glyph ?
What a huge upgrade. I needed this. Thank you!
Thanks for build update! Awesome!
Great video homie
hey man i love your videos and followed your incinerate leveling build for the sorc and am loving it, i have managed to get it to tick for around 900,000 burning damage a second.
do you know if there would be a fire based build for endgame? the reason i ask is because i would like to push endgame content but would rather stay away from the vast majority of what i see people doing (ice spike, ball lightning, frozen orb). this is because we have a couple of sorcs in our party and it get kinda boring when the "end game best build" is just copied and pasted onto 3 people
if this is even possible rn that would be really cool0.
again love the work and keep up the amazing job :)
Incin has a viable endgame variant I've made that still needs to go up
@@RageGamingVideos looking forward to your endgame Incinerate build. Enjoying the one you posted for leveling.
@@RageGamingVideos drop the vid 🔥
@@RageGamingVideos Oh man. Hope we see this soon. Loving Incinerate and don't really want to move to frost with all the broken stuff regarding vulnerable enemies.
Great video Josh. I am glad you pointed out the synergy between movement speed from conjuration mastery and Esu's heirloom. I need to give this a try....
I am very curious to see the upcoming ball lightning build. I am playing ball lightning and tried to use it with Winterglass (with frozen orb and lightning spears as passives) but the results were not great. That said my character was not L100 at the time.
so currently running this build and new to builds in general, my mana goes out pretty quickly. is it gear stats or the cooldown reduction that helps with that? sorry if it was answered in the video
Same for me, dude. My items + aspects, skill tree and paragon are exactly like the build guide, yet my mana disappears immediately.
How many ranks u guys got on conj mastery, more ranks = more mana
Man, ANY build where you're not "forced" to use the FB enchant is worth a look. Bonus points if it turns out to be a good build as well! As for a request - do you think it's possible to make a decently good Charged Bolt build?
Omg Thank you i love this build your the best
As FrostOrbs wizard i can say that this spe is really fun to play but suck as fuck when the boss coming my fresh barbar without masterworking just blasting Pit85-90 in provably 3-4min when my wizard take 5-6min to finish. The only problem is the boss. Frozen orbs was to nerfed after the PTR
To guys using maxroll fbolt sorc, it's plug and play for the most part, even if you just adjust talents and enchantment the difference in single target is insane
Cant wait for ball lightning! Ive been running my own ramshackled version this season and been having a ton of fun, it’s truly just enjoyable to play. It will be awesome to use a real build.
Check out mekuna, world #1 sorcerer for Most of the time since release and having an updated non ptr Ball Lightning Build
Serious question! Wait. Why do we put points into hydra if it’s not used??
This build slaps. had to do some nightmare dungeons for 2 glyphs. It's not as optimized as yours. But I do have most of it down. Still on Godslayer Crown tho. But had to try Duriel, and he was gone super fast!
This is build is Fire! 🔥 hell ya.
Why do you dont have 2x the aspect "chance to cast frozen orb twice"? thought it would be right
its NOT the same build in video as in the link... why is that ? what should we build ????
Man… I had shut down for the night then spotted this video… rebooted and rebuilt. Thanks heaps…
Well that explains a lot of why I’m on the struggle bus. I got a min roll fractured winter glass
Bro, you are a beast! YES LITERALLY WORKING NIGHT AND DAY! Appreciate you, man. I test all your builds, and they work phenomenal. Blizzard was great, frozen orb was great, incinerate was great! Lol, I tested a ball lighting build from maxroll.. I'm like, naaahhh 😅 I'm going to try this upgraded FO tomorrow. Appreciate you again, man.
It’s not 1 person, gosh how people are unaware xD
I know it's not. 3 of them do different videos, the character on the bottom left of the video indicates who it is, and I know his voice lol
What an absolute fucking life saver. Thank you for the build 🙏
I've checked the Paragon Board of this build and the second Glyph is Elementalist 40/40 Intelligence but following your board it leaves me at 20/40 Intelli.
I think you have to level your glyphs to increase the radius right?
That's wicked!
I still think Arc Lash/Teleport with Melted Heart and Raiment is the most fun (if you don't want to use more than 4 skills. It's a lazy build that'll get you to 80+ Rifts.
If one were to add Harlequin Crest to this build. How would, or would you change the build at all?
I'm still building on top of your incinerate build from days ago I've modified it alot I'm pushing past it lvl 75 and still melting mobs and bosses like you I'm a theory crafter
Nice build, my only issue is I’m running out of mana. 😩
So exciting! :D
"third enchantment" slot, let's go! :D
Bro it works bananas. Now we talking and also my mana problem got solved because so many ice blades. I got 10 stocks of conjuration mastery and that give a lot of mana regeneration ❤
Love this build but the boss damage is depressing, so really considering switching to meteor build
Why greater frozen orb? With decent gear, you constantly have so many ice blades and lightning spears out, that everything is already vulnerable from those.
Can someone please elaborate on the "infinite mana" part? I keep running out of mana, but I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. What's the mana regen source? the conjurations? crit? lucky hit?
Which aspects should I sacrifice when playing with harlequins crest and ring of starless skies?
Giving it a shot. My build cleares trash very good, boss damage is "fine" as well, but at like level 60 there will be stuff that oneshots me.
Most frustraiting stuff is - sometimes I cant even tell what killed me, I just... die...
This is where I'm at RN too, level 60 I can kill boss relatively quickly but will randomly get one shot. Was already doing the hydra burning and have ice blades enchant instead. Will play around with a bit of this method
How effective is this build if I'm only just into Tier 3? I'm level 58 or so, can I still spec the majority of skills and imprint my items where possible and still get good use out of it without it being 100%?
Instead I used frost nova in enchanting Aldo vampire exploding balks. Spec in alot vulnerable. Everything including bosses dies fast . I just have survivability issues.
I know its a lot to ask but on mobalytics could you add a tab with ubers and aspect placement. I have a star ring and a shaco but not sure about aspects that would be useful important important
gg on this build... made it so much easier to push higher tier pits
Esu Ferocity with the imprinted aspect seems better than Vyrs as IAS for summons
I haven't touched the season at all. this video has finally made me want to play Diablo 4 in seasons. If I'm just playing Sorc, what should I do to farm for the necklace before I can swap into this build? And what order should I farm stuff?
1. Amulet, 2. Pants and Boots, Rings, 3. Helm
Play Incinerate when leveling. Switch to this only when you have the mana, attack speed and crit chance requirements and the amulet of course.
you can farm lord zir for the amulet, but you can technically get it dropped from any mob
Question: Is "%Vulnerable Damage" calculated differently than just "%Damage"? I got a 45% Damage wand and a 40% Vulnerable Damage one. Since Damage is general it seems to be better or am i wrong and should go with the 40% Vulnerable instead?
i suggest you using vulnerable dmg.
without knowing youre amounts of the char, nobody can tell you if youre in a good balance of the different dmg output sources.. but to invest in more different types is usually better than just maxing one of it. its like with finances IRL, you want to have more sources..
@@MrBibertiger and can you tell my why some got with wand on lucky hit and others with dagger for crit? Which one to choose?
@@bigbong07 again, there is Like a Balance of Chance Related to damage.. it doesn‘t make Sense to Max dmg with nearly no Chance to proc this type.. between those two options you Said i would pick Lucky Chance since you have quite a lot of combonations that benefit from more Lucky Hits while normal crit chance is kinda easy to get as an affix
Cool idea. One comment: why use Topazes at all? Why not just socket your rings with Diamonds for All-Res, since you don't need armor anymore anyway?
Do we have any info if storm swell is bugged and if so would ancient flame be better as ive seen some folks suggest?
What about Yen's Blessing boots for even more conjurations?
I just got a pair of those last night, about to try them.
It can't trigger often enough with the 8 second cap. The crit chance increase from Esu's does way more.
DPS loss over Esus sadly
Starless or shaqow? I grinded out 4 sparks now I'm not sure which one should take priority
Since you do know the ice spike build already I'm assuming, which would you go for if you're in early endgame of this vs a Ice Spikes as a way to start pushing pit/boss farming.
ice spikes is stronger, got both builds almost maxed out and spikes brings me over 100 pit, frozen orb does not, bust is faster cleaning stuff
I love mage but what I never understand in any build is how it looks that no one ever needs mana.. I got like 24 mana reg in all my gear and im instantly oom.
I switched over to this version of the Frozen Orb build, from a 2 handed firebolt version, last night and the difference was night and day. How genius yet simple... replace the firebolt enchantment with something else because you already get fire applied to most enemies, especially bosses.
Here's a question on something I just thought about but am not able to test until tonight. What if you replace the lightning spear on your bar with hydras. You could potentially keep 2 up at all times giving you one additional conjuration at all times compared to the lightning spear. Only downside I can see with that would be that it would be one less cooldown running which would possibly mean fewer ice blades running. I'm not sure if it would be better, worse, or equal.
Worse, I tested hydra on bar. I actually ended up opting for the “every cast of lightning Spear spawns 2 and gives 25% to light damage” aspect and that solved my need for immediate +2 conj mastery like you mentioned
Still using that aspect and my ice blades didn’t take a hit, 10/10 enjoying it. I don’t use Tals ring and subbed that from build above give it a try works great
@@34Freshy Yeah, I ended up trying it and it was a pain to constantly try to cast 2 hydras amongst everything else going on.
The real question is, is frozen orb and fire beam only meta in this season.? Do “meta abilities” change every season.? Like example do avalanche still work as good as last season.? And if this is true how do you know every season which is the best ability for the season.? Sorry I’m new to diablo
dumb question, i got 2 helmets, one that copies yours, Intell-cooldownreduction- MPS. and i got another helmet that has Int-MPS- and it also has 3+ conjuration skills, would the conjuration ranks be worth more than the cooldown? i already have enough cooldown and my abilities come up quick and ialmost have 100% uptime of barrier ice and fireshield. thanks in advanced
Isnt the Hydra also affected by some scaling issues/bugs ? So they scale with the content you do like the monsters/bosses in said content ?
I was just playing ball lightning before dropping a winter glass. It feels immortal in helltide.
Still working on getting esus and tibalts. What do you recommend in their place for now, thanks
How well is this build against torment boss I don't want to keep switching between blizzard and frozen orb
Well... it worked. Ty so much
Hi. Thank you! It helped me a lot while really struggling with Frozen Orb. I followed the guide but i am stuck at 394 willpower and 435 dexterity, this isn't enough to get the bonusses on the rare nodes. What am I missing?
Frozen orb is the best build sorc has, even better than firebolt for the pit, because this build can also get 100% flameshield uptime. Then you can just sit infront of the boss and orb him down without dodging bullshit shadows
Also stormswell is bugged at the moment it does only 16% instead of 30% damage
Tell me more about this 100% flameshield
Question: Would swapping out the 2nd Legendary ring (the one that's not Tal Rasha) and instead using the unique ring Blue Rose increase damage?
Also how are you keeping mana up constantly? Ive copied the build exactly and Im constantly running out of mana.