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He's still the only person I know to have tested soulbrand and I just giggle at all the spiritborn running around with it on. I pray the bug is fixed I genuinely have wanted to test it this week but felt I'd lose hope in blizzard if it's still bugged 😂
@@deafdanny6299nobody believes you lol. You’re not more intelligent than the people who created maxroll. LOLOL dude thought he was gonna cook. No hope for you buddy. And this dude is a clueless shill. That armor is useless Lmmfao. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAA
I think most people missed the implicit +1 to all passives at first glance. That's even more powerful and flexible than the +4 to all skills from Shaco.
You’re only scratching the surface here ofcourse in terms of what is possible, and focused on necro. Just off the top of my head: - the ner rune gives stealth. Barrier based builds can proc it every 2s, ideal to add to setup based builds. - on barb there are so many individual healing passives the shroud + temerity just makes you immortal, the barrier on temerity resets a lot, especially with high fury gain. (But stacking some dodge and crowded sage + temerity is still my favorite cheap immortality hack.) - sorcs like spirit born have interesting passive structures, and I’m expecting to see stuff like triple elements builds only possible with the shroud. - bleed barbs also rely massively on a lot of passives, especially if you work in overpower. 3rd blade Rupture spam would come into mind. There’s a ton of strength to feed the explosion, free vulnerable from passives. Tons of healing to keep temerity up for stealth every 2s. Actually this would slot right into most of my bleed tanks. It’s a bit broken, but for a theory crafting nut like me, it’s by far the most interesting item in game. Problem is as a barb main, there’s so many dr passives with it, you are back to “that’s defenses fixed without effort”. This was the first season I actually needed to think about survival a bit from a build perspective, and not just about shoehorning in a bit of extra damage.
Shroud of False Death is everything a Mythic Unique should be. A Mythic Unique should make you want to drop everything and put it on because it boosts most if not all builds and noticeably makes you stronger. That gives me a reason to hunt it and be excited when it drops. There should be no reason for niche Mythic Uniques that boost one specific build. Ahavarion, Selig, Andariel's, Shattered Vow, and Nesekem are absolutely useless because of their niche uses and only serve the purpose of being salvaged for their spark. I don't get excited when those items drop, I roll my eyes and get upset because I could have had a useful Mythic but instead I got garbage.
The only thing holding Shattered Vow back is the absolutely monstrous pools of health enemies have. If you could actually reach the amount of poison stacked on an enemy to trigger the execution it would be a top tier Mythic. Changing the DoT bonus to a multiplier instead of an additive bonus could be huge.
I play HC. Andariel's helped me level a 2nd character. Can't complain. I was really hoping it was heir when the mythic dropped, but, unlike you, I tend to enjoy my experiences here on earth. So, I found a way to make it useful, instead of roll my eyes and cause myself misery. Anyway, you do what works for you, but I never found eye-rolling to be something that works for me. I do enjoy sarcasm and irony, and hope that you understand I mean the best of intentions, but being disappointed about anything simply doesn't work for me, I'd rather laugh and be merry and feel pleasant inside; which could be done by eye-rolling, just that it would have to intentionally be ironic eye-rolling and, generally, this is not the case.
I love this piece, also love the stealth mechanic, if someone dies i don't attack for 2 seconds and then I get left alone to revive the person who died with no issue
Shroud of False Death is in my opinion now at the same state Harlequin Crest was as soon as it was reasonable farmable. I think in the future we will see Items who will replace it the same as items replaced Harlequins for certain builds. So yes for now its "broken" but I'm pretty sure the future can handle that without "big" nerfs to the item.
@@droid5785 There are helmets who replacing Harlequins Crest without powering up to hard ... most of them are niche builds at the moment like Meteor Sorc, Stormwolf Druid. If these builds recieve any notable buffs or comparable any other build which would replace then the Shroud of False Death there is no necessary power creep, sure it's a possibility but not a necessity. It just needs fun and viable mechanic changes.
After having read the +1 to all passives in the first images we had from this item, what you explained, roughly is, what i expected it, to be. VERY strong. BiS in too many cases, i'd say. Of course, it's cool, to get items that make you godly, but it shouldn't be best for most of the builds. Thanks for your deepdive into it!
TL;DR version. +1 to passives is massive. This thing is even more massive for stealth rogues because they have a temper that adds even more + damage on first attack after exiting stealth
In arpg games, there are always BiS items. It's okay that there are BiS items. The only condition to this statement is that every once in a while the BiS items changes. This game is a series of changes. I am not worried about this item.
Just a quick thing about the stealth. In a group its very nice for reviving people. Another thing you cant initiate trade or inspect (atleast via the emote wheel) with people in stealth which is kinda funny and annoying at the same time haha.
Hehehe told you to look into this armor (I was on your live stream the other day). Good job on explaining it's functionality. If blizzard change the way SoFD works in the way Harlequin Crest does it would quickly become redundant.
It’s definitely a weird one because it’s like… yeah it’s really strong. Tyrael’s didn’t have an actual interesting effect by itself, but the stats on it felt impactful. This new thing has stats that make me want to cry even thinking about putting it on, a legendary power that reads, “this item almost never does anything,” and then one of the strongest implicit passives of all time. Even Shako which is nutty is like… a series of strong things on top of a power which is strong. I think mythics are just in a weird spot in general where they need to be overpowered to feel mythic but they also need to be generic enough so that almost any class could feasibly use them. They dont do anything insane for any one build or class so theyre just kinda generic and boring but they need to be because like.. imagine I’m playing blood surge and then a mythic drops that’s like, “increase the maximum number of all minions you can have by 1.” Cool, but it’s not for my build and could never be for my build unlike the other ones where they COULD be used but aren’t good enough. I COULD use Doombringer’s generic power but it doesn’t end up being the best thing I could put in that slot. So who knows. Not a game dev and I’m out of adderall for the foreseeable future so brain is fried.
and I thought it was unfair because the stealth is < any rogue form of stealth, lol. but, i also didn't know how, exactly, +1 passives worked. i would assume it only adds to your already selected passives; being as it is not, then +1 passives is MONSTEROUS since you're, basically, adding +20 skill points, depending on how many passives your class has. THAT'S NUTS. +20 skill points and infinite stealth... yea, not fair.
I got one of these out of random mythic cache and was severely disappointed bc I have been playing since season launch and it was the only mythic I had. I killed duriel/andariel like 100 times at least and had someone else in my part get 7 mythics alrdy. I guess I didn't fully understand the power of +1 to passives but you've given me hope.
Big fan of this as a passive for one item. But the last thing I'd like to see is an item that activates both tier 3 upgrades for all skills. That'd be sweet haha
On the PTR this item wouldn't break the Stealth if your minions attacked. It made for a godly fun Druid/Wolves/Minions build that created some new gameplay approaches. But now that this has been nerfed, the Stealth aspect does indeed seem all but worthless now. Maybe they will rebalance this in the future to make it interesting to play with rather than just a passive booster.
it dropped yesterday for me and it was a huge bumber when I realized, it won't procc the aspect and the dmg multiplier at all. The +1 to all passives is great, but it comes with the cost, that de rest of the item is more or less useless (at least for my build) beside the armor.
The stealth is broken. Enemies still run right up to you and attack. The auto-stealth also stops triggering after a few minutes. You can go over a full minute without attacking and you will never re-stealth, and +500% damage on the next attack after breaking stealth is additive so it's completely unnoticeable (assuming stealth actually worked).
Excellent video. Every build guide glosses over the reason why this item is so powerful. And as someone who likes to understand the mechanics of a build to play around with it, this is fantastic. Thank you! Liked and you have a new subscriber!
When they first shown this and I seen +1 to all passives, as a (normally) barbarian main, I knew how strong +1 to every passive is. Most ppl dont know became they never had to math it up
You should have added some gameplay examples as well to visually show a difference in damage of what the shroud can do so it's not only spreadsheets and theoretical damage.
The damage this item gives is all good and well, but what about Damage reduction Tyreals gives us? Going from Tyreals to Shroud will make us so squishy? Especially in T4 Pit, or am I wrong?
because you're moving the resistances from tyrael to tassets? people already uses yen or rakaroth to cap resistances over tassets even with the max cap on resistances that it offers. besides, tassets and shroud leave little room for defensive aspects, especially considering that you'll always want to slot in shaco
Hilariously I was just asking about this in the discord yesterday and started spreadsheeting it for my spiritborn build. I think the big holdup to using it is solving resistances without Tyreal's, but I'll be working on it
I switched to it today as I was lucky enough to drop it. With spices I am almost at max rex. Armor somewhere in the 300-400 range. Honestly, it does not even matter. You have so much HP and barrier that nothing will kill you unless you are pushing really high pit levels.
Could be drawbacks. Spiritborn has a passive that increases the cooldown on Defense skills, for instance. That could potentially break a build. I'm using it of course becuse it rocks
My Fireball Sorc wears 3 Mythics, 4 Uniques and 2 Legendarys, what does this mean? Well in reality people screaming for Set Gear already won, cause Mythic/uniques basically act as one, only time you run a lot of Legendarys is early on, you know, when you farm for your Set, excuse me i mean the Mythic/Uniques to replace almost every Legendary you have
It dropped for me yesterday and I almost dismantle it since I didn't find the stats all that interesting. I'm glad I didn't, I just saw this vid and tried it out, and it felt amazing
Whats the secret to damage? I feel like i have enough attack power but ppl tell me its irrelevant, i have everything amcestral with 2 GA, im at around 2.1k main stat 15k attack power yet i kill kinda slow on tormen 2.... where did i go wrong?
@@Mike-om4tv that doesnt tell me much. Granted dont have everything maxed out, namely glyph which are at 30 and masterworking which i have 4/12 on everything, i dont see how that alone would get me to T4 or to comfortly kill on 3. Is the build itself bad? Im a rogue barrage build with imbuements, word of harkon,flickerstep,windforce,condemnation for uniques.
I had no idea this was that powerful. I didn’t read the +1 to all passives. I ended up salvaging it. Grrrrrrr! Right after i salvaged it, i got a ancestral unique with +95% total armor which put me over 2k armor at torment 2. I could have kept it & equipped it. Grrrr
Thia armor.... im botg wondering how effective it is on infinimist in its current state, and realize this rewards builds that can tap into multiple archtypes of its cpass, such as unmaker giving benefits from shadow and bone passives
Originally I thought this item was meh even as a summoner since I didn't see the bigger picture (1 to all minions vs 5+ to golem was what I saw) but after your math I realized how strong it is.
i legit closed the game since im a necro main ... and while im listening to you on my second monitor my minions keep walking all over the place wich im not even kidding costed me a high pit ...
I’ve always wanted to go node by node and tally exactly what the text actually says on Shroud after passives accounted for. You are absolutely trolling if you don’t wear this and if your build can’t use it, you are trolling for having a build that can’t wear it.
Macro my brain don’t work good, will it rock on golemancer? I gambled my 2 resplendies and got this and was bummed out but if it bangs help me understand!
Cool video, thanks. I totally agree with your recent tweet. That you dont have to play the strongest build of the season. I tried spiritborn, I've reached T4 in notime. However, I simply did not feel it. Now I switched to sorc. Which is shit, but I enojoy the game. THANKS for your work. Big fan.
i wish they ould revisit some of the other uber uniques for example the amulet its just not useful you get no damage from it and all of its stats do literly nothing and the unique effect is good if you can generate enugh resources but nobody uses it.
Crafted this once and got GA on dmg for attack…was so pissed. Found a trash mythic to spark and sparked the current one and guess what, SAME GA! Turned the damn pc off and called it a night, spent close to 1b trying to buy the runs to craft it. Woke up today and tried to MW it and it tripple crit into DMG GA TWO TIMES IN A ROW! I could have sworn blizzard was trolling me, turned the game off and went outside to touch grass
It’s absurd. Rob crafted 10 and none of them got hp. All 10 got resource generation, and two even had double ga with resource generation and stealth attack 😂
This one seems to be BiS for lots of classes and builds, just like enigma is in d2. I have no problems with items such as this tho I would preffer it to be harder to obtain as and endgame piece. Remember how enigma was so freaking hard to get? I mean, for lots of people reaching the endgame setup is a point where it becomes boring and they tend to create new character to play with, so getting all items early takes tons of fun away. Also I've been really having fun with new class but I would love to see more diversity, it's sad that everyone plays the same op class and the same op build. It would be really cool to see more builds and more classes being so fun to play as this new one, I hope that someday it will happen with balancing and bug fixes.
Don’t want it too be too too hard to get, as a season only lasts for so long. I’d hate to get it just before the season ends and is no longer worth it. Let’s be honest, not very many people are playing the eternal realm and nothing there to entice players to play there either.
@@HellsHemi Well I'd rather build my character slowly, step by step, going through different variations of builds than having best in slot items handed to me on a silver plate. I mean, going through the whole process of evolution with your build and playstyle and the road to get to the end game items is the most fun part, at least for me. I wouldn't mind not having this item at all this season than getting tons of it early on.
Can u explain how the XOL rune works? I ask this because I see build guides that use this Rune an it states, (Invoke a Skill from another Class) but when socketing this rune since it's always matched with XAL which states (20% for life) How does Xol proc Xal when Xol isn't actually paired with a Skll invoke from another class... Hints like I could put Deceptify on the Spirtborn... Now Decreptify is Another skill from a different class... I know this is long but im very confused an Mac your good at explaining as long as You have all the info. I hope this is all the info
On your other gear piece that you put rune words in you’ll need to use a rune that uses another classes skill and whenever that happens you’ll trigger XOL
Every build is the same as far as spiritborn. These devs have zero imagination. I swear they’re having ai create the game. 1.5 years and they still haven’t retooled useless skills or balanced classes and haven’t even thought about changing useless aspects
@@MacroBioBoi But so far I think that the same type of aura will accumulate if they are added on 2 different base types, for example HOJ on weapon + HOJ on Armor And it will not accumulate if they are added on the same 2 types of bases, for example x2 HOJ on weapon
im ok with them however.. the endless content creators out there with "their build" and its all purples defeats a class.. after 6 seasons its getting old... 85% of the community wont ever see them much less one of them... they want the builds but they are more realistic in that they deal with what they get at the end of the day... any build is uber if its got mostly mythics... last season was proof.. put on 4 mythics, face on a kb and roll around on it like a stripper at a bar at 2am.. yeah ill pass why i like your builds and vids.. least you take your time to fact check, theory it out, and get advice from the community ya know...
I am still surprised how much is this chest recommend everywhere, even on poison builds, which means you will never going to see stealth proc, cause as long as target have active dmg, it counts as you making damage. And despite 1 to all skills is... well its not good enough. It has its use, but its a niche thing you will struggle to implement successfully on Torment IV.
There is a class so busted they made it that way to sell dlc in the middle of that mid expansion and season and this is the thing you complaining about lol😂
I think it is a cool idea for a chest-piece; however, it just needs to be nerfed. I would suggest possibly changing out the all-stats role for something else? Especially since the passive points have a strong enough effect on their own. Although I can understand the people who like the item and it's for the developers to figure out.
Because of shroud. Bac and Moni runes skyrocketed and are taxed out the ass now haha. Hope yall bought when they were cheap. D4 … the stock market simulator without the worry of going homeless cause you made the wrong call/investment 🤪🤣
500% damage on next attack is insane 💀💀And I feel bad cus Druid has a similar build with Shred and using Waxxing Gibous but shred kinda cheeks rn and waxing is just meh. The state of druids man gonna be hard being a druid main after Spiritborn
I’ve seen Bouldercane druids using shred to counteract the boulder knockback. There’s nothing too build defining in the weapon slot, so gibbous can fit in easily and give you a decent uptime on that huge damage. It does both storm and earth damage, so it benefits from a lot of passives as well. Double ultimates with petrify from a rune word and cataclysm to profit even more from all those passives. If there’s any Druid build I’d wanna try the shroud on it’s Bouldercane.
i think an uber unique is for the best possible way for the most builds, but it must be rare. And here in d4 nothing is are instead of roll of escape. if u can craft this items, there isnt any rare technik into it. so for this, the item is too good.
@@MacroBioBoi yes dead, atleast for this season, like if you not playing that stupid class, you are fooling yourself, like my better geared rogue, i have to work hard to kill stuff even at tier 70, on my spiritborn i am watching tv just rolling my fingers over the keyboard and everything dies, so pointless
No, Spirit Born ruins the god damn game for me. A bugged and broken class that loser Rob constantly promotes. It’s just beyond annoying all the bugs and trillions of damage. Makes the game not fun knowing I can’t compete with this on my Necro. Need class leaderboards.
14:44 you'd love to hear from me? ok yay. nerf Spiritborn. that is all. I'm sure you'll shadowban me so that my comment doesn't appear to other users, just like Raxx did, even though all I ever post in his youtube video comments is what I've posted here: please nerf the Spiritborn. it's ruined the game.
I enjoy being overpowered but you're not wrong at all. In fact it makes me not want to play the other classes anymore. Look at the latest build it's doing Quadrillion dmg already.
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As someone who doesnt have the time to get into all the nitty gritty, but also wants to do more than just copy a build on maxroll and call it a day, your videos are a godsend. Your breakdowns are super clear and i love how you back it up with numbers.
He's still the only person I know to have tested soulbrand and I just giggle at all the spiritborn running around with it on.
I pray the bug is fixed I genuinely have wanted to test it this week but felt I'd lose hope in blizzard if it's still bugged 😂
My summon build does double the dmg of max roll, there build guides are just copy paste from who ever they can find. Not made themselves.
@@deafdanny6299nobody believes you lol. You’re not more intelligent than the people who created maxroll. LOLOL dude thought he was gonna cook. No hope for you buddy. And this dude is a clueless shill. That armor is useless Lmmfao. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAA
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@@deafdanny6299I call bs…..
I think most people missed the implicit +1 to all passives at first glance. That's even more powerful and flexible than the +4 to all skills from Shaco.
I got this to drop yesterday and completely missed the +1 to all passives line. So yes, you have sufficiently obliterated my brain.
Lol yea if you go node by node it’s trolling to not wear this item.
Also notice that when you are spam attacking - you still get stealth every few seconds :D which helps a ton with damage and dropping aggro.
You’re only scratching the surface here ofcourse in terms of what is possible, and focused on necro. Just off the top of my head:
- the ner rune gives stealth. Barrier based builds can proc it every 2s, ideal to add to setup based builds.
- on barb there are so many individual healing passives the shroud + temerity just makes you immortal, the barrier on temerity resets a lot, especially with high fury gain. (But stacking some dodge and crowded sage + temerity is still my favorite cheap immortality hack.)
- sorcs like spirit born have interesting passive structures, and I’m expecting to see stuff like triple elements builds only possible with the shroud.
- bleed barbs also rely massively on a lot of passives, especially if you work in overpower. 3rd blade Rupture spam would come into mind. There’s a ton of strength to feed the explosion, free vulnerable from passives. Tons of healing to keep temerity up for stealth every 2s. Actually this would slot right into most of my bleed tanks.
It’s a bit broken, but for a theory crafting nut like me, it’s by far the most interesting item in game. Problem is as a barb main, there’s so many dr passives with it, you are back to “that’s defenses fixed without effort”. This was the first season I actually needed to think about survival a bit from a build perspective, and not just about shoehorning in a bit of extra damage.
Shroud of False Death is everything a Mythic Unique should be. A Mythic Unique should make you want to drop everything and put it on because it boosts most if not all builds and noticeably makes you stronger. That gives me a reason to hunt it and be excited when it drops. There should be no reason for niche Mythic Uniques that boost one specific build. Ahavarion, Selig, Andariel's, Shattered Vow, and Nesekem are absolutely useless because of their niche uses and only serve the purpose of being salvaged for their spark. I don't get excited when those items drop, I roll my eyes and get upset because I could have had a useful Mythic but instead I got garbage.
Preach!
The only thing holding Shattered Vow back is the absolutely monstrous pools of health enemies have. If you could actually reach the amount of poison stacked on an enemy to trigger the execution it would be a top tier Mythic. Changing the DoT bonus to a multiplier instead of an additive bonus could be huge.
It’s everything a mythic unique should be except what it REALLY should be… uber rare.
I play HC. Andariel's helped me level a 2nd character. Can't complain. I was really hoping it was heir when the mythic dropped, but, unlike you, I tend to enjoy my experiences here on earth. So, I found a way to make it useful, instead of roll my eyes and cause myself misery. Anyway, you do what works for you, but I never found eye-rolling to be something that works for me. I do enjoy sarcasm and irony, and hope that you understand I mean the best of intentions, but being disappointed about anything simply doesn't work for me, I'd rather laugh and be merry and feel pleasant inside; which could be done by eye-rolling, just that it would have to intentionally be ironic eye-rolling and, generally, this is not the case.
I love this piece, also love the stealth mechanic, if someone dies i don't attack for 2 seconds and then I get left alone to revive the person who died with no issue
Ho - ly - Cow, that looks like the golden standard for non-specialised base builds now.
I like the shroud mechanic. Reminds me of D2.
You did not enlighten me on any topic but your explanation was excellent. Well done!
Shroud of False Death is in my opinion now at the same state Harlequin Crest was as soon as it was reasonable farmable. I think in the future we will see Items who will replace it the same as items replaced Harlequins for certain builds. So yes for now its "broken" but I'm pretty sure the future can handle that without "big" nerfs to the item.
Damn power creep is a thing? Forgot lel
@@droid5785 There are helmets who replacing Harlequins Crest without powering up to hard ... most of them are niche builds at the moment like Meteor Sorc, Stormwolf Druid. If these builds recieve any notable buffs or comparable any other build which would replace then the Shroud of False Death there is no necessary power creep, sure it's a possibility but not a necessity. It just needs fun and viable mechanic changes.
If I'm not mistaken the 5% bonus armour applies before the penalty. Therefore you need about 1900 armor (without the -1000 penalty) to reach the cap.
Great explanation, Mac! I didn't realize the power of this item until you laid it out there. Thanks!
How would you rate this on a minion build say mage minion build?
After having read the +1 to all passives in the first images we had from this item, what you explained, roughly is, what i expected it, to be. VERY strong. BiS in too many cases, i'd say. Of course, it's cool, to get items that make you godly, but it shouldn't be best for most of the builds.
Thanks for your deepdive into it!
TL;DR version. +1 to passives is massive. This thing is even more massive for stealth rogues because they have a temper that adds even more + damage on first attack after exiting stealth
Sadly the damage after stealth is still negligible on rogue. Its additive and doesn't snapshot but the passives are insanely good on rogue too
In arpg games, there are always BiS items. It's okay that there are BiS items. The only condition to this statement is that every once in a while the BiS items changes. This game is a series of changes. I am not worried about this item.
Yes i agree. D4 is a seasonal game now. There should be a BIS thats godly OP. Anyway season ends and all is reset.
Just a quick thing about the stealth. In a group its very nice for reviving people. Another thing you cant initiate trade or inspect (atleast via the emote wheel) with people in stealth which is kinda funny and annoying at the same time haha.
Hehehe told you to look into this armor (I was on your live stream the other day). Good job on explaining it's functionality. If blizzard change the way SoFD works in the way Harlequin Crest does it would quickly become redundant.
It’s definitely a weird one because it’s like… yeah it’s really strong.
Tyrael’s didn’t have an actual interesting effect by itself, but the stats on it felt impactful. This new thing has stats that make me want to cry even thinking about putting it on, a legendary power that reads, “this item almost never does anything,” and then one of the strongest implicit passives of all time.
Even Shako which is nutty is like… a series of strong things on top of a power which is strong.
I think mythics are just in a weird spot in general where they need to be overpowered to feel mythic but they also need to be generic enough so that almost any class could feasibly use them. They dont do anything insane for any one build or class so theyre just kinda generic and boring but they need to be because like.. imagine I’m playing blood surge and then a mythic drops that’s like, “increase the maximum number of all minions you can have by 1.”
Cool, but it’s not for my build and could never be for my build unlike the other ones where they COULD be used but aren’t good enough. I COULD use Doombringer’s generic power but it doesn’t end up being the best thing I could put in that slot.
So who knows. Not a game dev and I’m out of adderall for the foreseeable future so brain is fried.
and I thought it was unfair because the stealth is < any rogue form of stealth, lol. but, i also didn't know how, exactly, +1 passives worked. i would assume it only adds to your already selected passives; being as it is not, then +1 passives is MONSTEROUS since you're, basically, adding +20 skill points, depending on how many passives your class has. THAT'S NUTS. +20 skill points and infinite stealth... yea, not fair.
I got one of these out of random mythic cache and was severely disappointed bc I have been playing since season launch and it was the only mythic I had. I killed duriel/andariel like 100 times at least and had someone else in my part get 7 mythics alrdy. I guess I didn't fully understand the power of +1 to passives but you've given me hope.
Big fan of this as a passive for one item. But the last thing I'd like to see is an item that activates both tier 3 upgrades for all skills. That'd be sweet haha
On the PTR this item wouldn't break the Stealth if your minions attacked. It made for a godly fun Druid/Wolves/Minions build that created some new gameplay approaches. But now that this has been nerfed, the Stealth aspect does indeed seem all but worthless now. Maybe they will rebalance this in the future to make it interesting to play with rather than just a passive booster.
it dropped yesterday for me and it was a huge bumber when I realized, it won't procc the aspect and the dmg multiplier at all. The +1 to all passives is great, but it comes with the cost, that de rest of the item is more or less useless (at least for my build) beside the armor.
The stealth is broken. Enemies still run right up to you and attack. The auto-stealth also stops triggering after a few minutes. You can go over a full minute without attacking and you will never re-stealth, and +500% damage on the next attack after breaking stealth is additive so it's completely unnoticeable (assuming stealth actually worked).
Dealing damage prevents stealth from triggering. DoT effects will cause that. Like Iron Maiden if you’re using cursed aura or bleeds or poisons
Excellent video. Every build guide glosses over the reason why this item is so powerful. And as someone who likes to understand the mechanics of a build to play around with it, this is fantastic. Thank you! Liked and you have a new subscriber!
I honestly think the defens from the stealth part is great. But yeah I feel like I didn't know what made the chest piece so good, makes sense now.
When they first shown this and I seen +1 to all passives, as a (normally) barbarian main, I knew how strong +1 to every passive is. Most ppl dont know became they never had to math it up
Hey guys I’ve converted from a pure minion main to a blood wave main and this is the first mythic I got to drop
For minion Necro this is massive since you get buffs to all mastery, hellbent etc. It’s massive.
You should have added some gameplay examples as well to visually show a difference in damage of what the shroud can do so it's not only spreadsheets and theoretical damage.
The damage this item gives is all good and well, but what about Damage reduction Tyreals gives us? Going from Tyreals to Shroud will make us so squishy? Especially in T4 Pit, or am I wrong?
"Like looking at the ultimate!" lmao. Again great video for breaking it down for every1 why False Death is soo good.
Tassets of the Dawning Sky stonks on the rise
Tassets went from never use to pretty legit
because you're moving the resistances from tyrael to tassets? people already uses yen or rakaroth to cap resistances over tassets even with the max cap on resistances that it offers. besides, tassets and shroud leave little room for defensive aspects, especially considering that you'll always want to slot in shaco
@@pablodrogo spiritborn doesnt even need resistances :D
@@pablodrogo they might not be BiS now but they're a fantastic option for solving the resistance puzzle (I'm using them with shroud currently).
Hilariously I was just asking about this in the discord yesterday and started spreadsheeting it for my spiritborn build. I think the big holdup to using it is solving resistances without Tyreal's, but I'll be working on it
I don't think people even cap their armor and res in high pits. I'm on HC so I do, but yeah
I switched to it today as I was lucky enough to drop it. With spices I am almost at max rex. Armor somewhere in the 300-400 range. Honestly, it does not even matter. You have so much HP and barrier that nothing will kill you unless you are pushing really high pit levels.
Could be drawbacks. Spiritborn has a passive that increases the cooldown on Defense skills, for instance. That could potentially break a build. I'm using it of course becuse it rocks
doesn't really matter the Prodigy's Tempo plus fast attack speed pretty much reset your cooldown real quick anyway
Or have a shako with three masterworks into cooldown reduction. Along with midnight suns reduction, cooldowns are a non issue.
And the best Thing for soulrift overpower crit build, U can snapshot the "Out of stealth" dmg modifier :)
as a barb I am not impressed, however if I was playing an overpower build I'd be thrilled to drop one with a GA on resource generation.
Uber uniques is the new tendency. That until they release green sets.
I really wanna combine the stealth attack with pitfighter ring on rogue for something
My Fireball Sorc wears 3 Mythics, 4 Uniques and 2 Legendarys, what does this mean? Well in reality people screaming for Set Gear already won, cause Mythic/uniques basically act as one, only time you run a lot of Legendarys is early on, you know, when you farm for your Set, excuse me i mean the Mythic/Uniques to replace almost every Legendary you have
It dropped for me yesterday and I almost dismantle it since I didn't find the stats all that interesting. I'm glad I didn't, I just saw this vid and tried it out, and it felt amazing
i slapped this armor on the second i found it for my sorc. 35 free skill points basicly and crazy upgrade in damage resist and armor
I’m on spirit born with generally mid gear. Dropped this yesterday and went up 20 pit tiers
Whats the secret to damage? I feel like i have enough attack power but ppl tell me its irrelevant, i have everything amcestral with 2 GA, im at around 2.1k main stat 15k attack power yet i kill kinda slow on tormen 2.... where did i go wrong?
Multiplicative sources of damage from enchants, paragon board, glyphs
@@Mike-om4tv that doesnt tell me much. Granted dont have everything maxed out, namely glyph which are at 30 and masterworking which i have 4/12 on everything, i dont see how that alone would get me to T4 or to comfortly kill on 3. Is the build itself bad? Im a rogue barrage build with imbuements, word of harkon,flickerstep,windforce,condemnation for uniques.
Sad I can only like 1 time. Great work Macro!
I had no idea this was that powerful. I didn’t read the +1 to all passives. I ended up salvaging it. Grrrrrrr!
Right after i salvaged it, i got a ancestral unique with +95% total armor which put me over 2k armor at torment 2. I could have kept it & equipped it. Grrrr
Thia armor.... im botg wondering how effective it is on infinimist in its current state, and realize this rewards builds that can tap into multiple archtypes of its cpass, such as unmaker giving benefits from shadow and bone passives
Glad to see I’m not the only one who keeps getting ga stealth damage 😅
Im still waiting for an item in d4 to be as exciting to find as like the sigons set in d2, that you use from about level 10-20......
Gold. Just pure gold your videos.
Originally I thought this item was meh even as a summoner since I didn't see the bigger picture (1 to all minions vs 5+ to golem was what I saw) but after your math I realized how strong it is.
Minions seem to benefit the most imo
i legit closed the game since im a necro main ... and while im listening to you on my second monitor my minions keep walking all over the place wich im not even kidding costed me a high pit ...
I’ve always wanted to go node by node and tally exactly what the text actually says on Shroud after passives accounted for. You are absolutely trolling if you don’t wear this and if your build can’t use it, you are trolling for having a build that can’t wear it.
Macro my brain don’t work good, will it rock on golemancer? I gambled my 2 resplendies and got this and was bummed out but if it bangs help me understand!
It's pretty good on golem
@@MacroBioBoi would it suitably mitigate losing +4-6 golem mastery?
@@MacroBioBoi got a GA mendelin on masteries and feeling complete. Thanks so much for the guides and work put into this season amazing stuff honestly.
I still believe that shako and now Shroud should only give you + to active skill/passive respectively
This chest over a +3 golem chest for golem build?
yes thank you very much i was supper confused why this armor was so good
It’s the plus 1 to all passives THIS IS MASSIVE!!!!
Cool video, thanks. I totally agree with your recent tweet. That you dont have to play the strongest build of the season. I tried spiritborn, I've reached T4 in notime. However, I simply did not feel it. Now I switched to sorc. Which is shit, but I enojoy the game. THANKS for your work. Big fan.
I overall like the new class, but with all the bugs making it utterly overpowered, the game becomes super boring super fast :(
A must have uber unique is bad for the game. Thanks for the explanation of why its useful
i wish they ould revisit some of the other uber uniques for example the amulet its just not useful you get no damage from it and all of its stats do literly nothing and the unique effect is good if you can generate enugh resources but nobody uses it.
As always, very interresting! Thank you very much 😊
this or tyraels might? For spiritborne build
Great vid as always.
Like for the extra sheeds ❤
You could say that about ANY unique or mythic unique in every season. Just let people have fun. What are you? Diablo’s gatekeeper?
Wut?
Yeah this thing on ptr was just silly. Shocked it made it past ptr
does this work on my lightning spear sorc?
Crafted this once and got GA on dmg for attack…was so pissed. Found a trash mythic to spark and sparked the current one and guess what, SAME GA! Turned the damn pc off and called it a night, spent close to 1b trying to buy the runs to craft it. Woke up today and tried to MW it and it tripple crit into DMG GA TWO TIMES IN A ROW! I could have sworn blizzard was trolling me, turned the game off and went outside to touch grass
It’s absurd. Rob crafted 10 and none of them got hp. All 10 got resource generation, and two even had double ga with resource generation and stealth attack 😂
No the only thing that will ruin Diablo 4 is Diablo 5
Update your Bone Spirit build on maxroll please :)
Yeah, ok. Mind blown, if I see this th8ng, imma gonna see it significantly differently from what I would have done. Thank you.
no ... Kepeleke destroyd everything. This Armor makes the Spiritborn a way stronger every build
This one seems to be BiS for lots of classes and builds, just like enigma is in d2. I have no problems with items such as this tho I would preffer it to be harder to obtain as and endgame piece. Remember how enigma was so freaking hard to get? I mean, for lots of people reaching the endgame setup is a point where it becomes boring and they tend to create new character to play with, so getting all items early takes tons of fun away. Also I've been really having fun with new class but I would love to see more diversity, it's sad that everyone plays the same op class and the same op build. It would be really cool to see more builds and more classes being so fun to play as this new one, I hope that someday it will happen with balancing and bug fixes.
Don’t want it too be too too hard to get, as a season only lasts for so long. I’d hate to get it just before the season ends and is no longer worth it. Let’s be honest, not very many people are playing the eternal realm and nothing there to entice players to play there either.
@@HellsHemi Well I'd rather build my character slowly, step by step, going through different variations of builds than having best in slot items handed to me on a silver plate. I mean, going through the whole process of evolution with your build and playstyle and the road to get to the end game items is the most fun part, at least for me. I wouldn't mind not having this item at all this season than getting tons of it early on.
Does this ruin the “meta” that is basically “play Spiritborn of GTFO”?
Hopefully!
Can u explain how the XOL rune works? I ask this because I see build guides that use this Rune an it states, (Invoke a Skill from another Class) but when socketing this rune since it's always matched with XAL which states (20% for life) How does Xol proc Xal when Xol isn't actually paired with a Skll invoke from another class... Hints like I could put Deceptify on the Spirtborn... Now Decreptify is Another skill from a different class... I know this is long but im very confused an Mac your good at explaining as long as You have all the info. I hope this is all the info
On your other gear piece that you put rune words in you’ll need to use a rune that uses another classes skill and whenever that happens you’ll trigger XOL
@undueflyer4 i ask AceofSpade... yes it's the bulwark. Very clever
@@matthewmayle0711 sorry for answering bro
@undueflyer4 why u take my answer so personal.. I wasnt digging at you.... Work on that bro
im never taking mine off. Tyils Might is a old dusty pos compared to this wonder chest
Every build is the same as far as spiritborn. These devs have zero imagination. I swear they’re having ai create the game. 1.5 years and they still haven’t retooled useless skills or balanced classes and haven’t even thought about changing useless aspects
new tech everyday
when you play too much diablo, items becomes tech..
If you ever drop it as causal :)
Ty for this video
Great video!
I have a question. Game d2r. If merc act 5 frenzy use x2 last wish, so character will have lv17 might aura or lv 34 might aura
Please tell me
Double the aura level
@@MacroBioBoi But so far I think that the same type of aura will accumulate if they are added on 2 different base types, for example HOJ on weapon + HOJ on Armor
And it will not accumulate if they are added on the same 2 types of bases, for example x2 HOJ on weapon
@@thangdiamond9398 It doesnt matter what item type it's on
im ok with them however.. the endless content creators out there with "their build" and its all purples defeats a class.. after 6 seasons its getting old... 85% of the community wont ever see them much less one of them... they want the builds but they are more realistic in that they deal with what they get at the end of the day... any build is uber if its got mostly mythics... last season was proof.. put on 4 mythics, face on a kb and roll around on it like a stripper at a bar at 2am.. yeah ill pass why i like your builds and vids.. least you take your time to fact check, theory it out, and get advice from the community ya know...
I am still surprised how much is this chest recommend everywhere, even on poison builds, which means you will never going to see stealth proc, cause as long as target have active dmg, it counts as you making damage. And despite 1 to all skills is... well its not good enough. It has its use, but its a niche thing you will struggle to implement successfully on Torment IV.
Broken spirit is ruining meta
The meta is already ruined since Spiritborn is broken...
Well, you can't equip it on Minion Necro... because of memento mori passives ykwim ?
I just think you get no benefit from the passive
Minion masteries are passives, so it might be worth it. Memento Mori has no bearing on it.
@@Orthus100 I don`t know what it`s called ... I know it`s next to memento mori .. and for every active minion you loose damage redduction ...
@@CyrusBlack404 It doesn't reduce your DR, it just doesn't give you any. Having minions doesn't make it go negative.
There is a class so busted they made it that way to sell dlc in the middle of that mid expansion and season and this is the thing you complaining about lol😂
I think it is a cool idea for a chest-piece; however, it just needs to be nerfed. I would suggest possibly changing out the all-stats role for something else? Especially since the passive points have a strong enough effect on their own. Although I can understand the people who like the item and it's for the developers to figure out.
Apparently on the test server it only gave +1 to passives you had points in. They changed that for whatever reason.
@@devxved It'd be weird if it functioned differently from Shako so I have to assume the PTR just had a bug.
Best item in the game.
Game is a complete Failure atm.
Because of shroud. Bac and Moni runes skyrocketed and are taxed out the ass now haha. Hope yall bought when they were cheap. D4 … the stock market simulator without the worry of going homeless cause you made the wrong call/investment 🤪🤣
500% damage on next attack is insane 💀💀And I feel bad cus Druid has a similar build with Shred and using Waxxing Gibous but shred kinda cheeks rn and waxing is just meh. The state of druids man gonna be hard being a druid main after Spiritborn
I’ve seen Bouldercane druids using shred to counteract the boulder knockback. There’s nothing too build defining in the weapon slot, so gibbous can fit in easily and give you a decent uptime on that huge damage. It does both storm and earth damage, so it benefits from a lot of passives as well. Double ultimates with petrify from a rune word and cataclysm to profit even more from all those passives.
If there’s any Druid build I’d wanna try the shroud on it’s Bouldercane.
Diablo 4 meta is just play spiritborn.
Not if you play a different class, it isn't.
@@MacroBioBoi im a sorc player but Spirit is 10k times stronger that's a fact.
i think an uber unique is for the best possible way for the most builds, but it must be rare. And here in d4 nothing is are instead of roll of escape. if u can craft this items, there isnt any rare technik into it. so for this, the item is too good.
question the meta? there is no meta, its spiritborn S++ Tier rest is C Tier, game is dead
😂😂 Shitter
Dead?
@@MacroBioBoi yes dead, atleast for this season, like if you not playing that stupid class, you are fooling yourself, like my better geared rogue, i have to work hard to kill stuff even at tier 70, on my spiritborn i am watching tv just rolling my fingers over the keyboard and everything dies, so pointless
@@Ykezha ahh using words for things they don't need. Got it.
I have a question, are you my daddy? 😮
XD
No, Spirit Born ruins the god damn game for me. A bugged and broken class that loser Rob constantly promotes. It’s just beyond annoying all the bugs and trillions of damage. Makes the game not fun knowing I can’t compete with this on my Necro. Need class leaderboards.
14:44 you'd love to hear from me? ok yay. nerf Spiritborn. that is all.
I'm sure you'll shadowban me so that my comment doesn't appear to other users, just like Raxx did, even though all I ever post in his youtube video comments is what I've posted here: please nerf the Spiritborn. it's ruined the game.
I enjoy being overpowered but you're not wrong at all. In fact it makes me not want to play the other classes anymore. Look at the latest build it's doing Quadrillion dmg already.
This was a wild energy.
gotta agree with this man. nobody calls for spiritborn class nerf, and it is broken and everyone knows it
@@MacroBioBoiseems like he had a bad day or something
newb shill