Did I just see someone massaging a fish? LOL Good tips. The resonance one I agree and I still keep doing it!! BAD HABIT! Rather use Soothe nowadays to remove nasty resonances.
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl Eq sweeping is often made for above 1kHz. In high frequency soundwaves, the pressure goes up and down quicker comperad to low freqs meaning that the high-frequency sound wave's energy is spent quicker and it disappear quicker if it is not too loud. So if you don't boost them and use "cut sweeping" instead you are less effected of room modes. You can think it this way, when you boost 9db, it is harder for your room to absorb it, and you will suffer more by room modes. However, when you use cut method, there is no extra 9 db and you are less prone to room modes. So it is safer and more neutral method overall.
Further common mistake about finding resonances: I've seen a lot of people completely killing the sound just for the sake of adjusting resonances continuously. Nonsense imo. Usually, resonances of a sound happen in a certain frequency range so yea, better a decent bell with some db of attenuation and the work is done! Don't overload your EQ.
I've always found the frequency exaggeration sweep counter intuitive , it literally all sounds bad when you sweep through it and yet a lot of professionals do it. A subtraction sweep just makes more sense, if you sweep through and it doesnt sound any better then it must not need it, simple.
i think this technique comes from live mixing, where you want to provoke resonances to be able to filter them quickly. This works if you want to a) EQ for the Room (Venue) b) want to be very quick with that and c) need to do it in a noisy environment where its hard to hear small dips very good. But i also find it not very useful in the studio.
I just wanted to say I appreciate your advice. A lot of content creators seem to regurgitate what everyone else is saying/doing but your advice/knowledge is always refreshing to “hear”. Pun intended, lol
EQ mistake 6: Overly abusing high-pass. Makes a thin mix. EQ mistake 7: To much boosting. I generally prefer cuts to correct some processing. EQ mistake 8: No boosting at all. I love to boost before saturations. EQ mistake 9: Hihats need that timbre! Don't overdo the cuts. EQ mistake 10: Like Yalcin did in example 5.. spikes and mountains with multiple points. so weird, like an fabfilter ad would show.. Just boost the highs with one band.. You crazy people!
RE 'EQ mistake 10' Creating an EQ shape like that in solo might not make sense, but you might have a sound that needs more high end, but you already have a hihat or some other element also in the highs. You want the hihat to have it's 'timbre' but might want to take some of those frequencies out of other elements so they don't build up.
When i cut resonant frequencies i use tiny spices cuts . I don't want to loose the test of the frequencies,just the small problematic areas. In mastering spices are not good but cleaning the mix i use them
YO! This is so TRUE! Any bedroom sound nerd who ever MOVED has EXPERIENCED THIS!!! I moved two years ago after the entirety of my audio hobby existed in one other room and one other house. The only thing that changed WAS. THE. ROOM. I produce/mix/master the exact same way. That didn’t changed. Same equipment. Same method. My tracks made in the new place feels like a novice did it. I had to go with emulation headphones just to remove the modes I have yet to learn here.
Dipping the eq and seeing if anything stands out more pleasantly seemed like it made more sense, because really if you raise the eq and sweep everything sounds particularly bad or strange. I thought dipping made more sense but I thought what would I know, I'm not a professional. Good to a pro see's it this way too.
Good advices, although what you describe in step 1 is the problem of an inaccurate room. No matter what you do boost or cut it will be inaccurate until you fix your room.
Another great video mate! Also with your first tip, I remember someone telling me that if you boost any frequency by 10,11,12 or 18 DB it will be annoying. So I have followed your advise and been doing the cut to find problem frequencies.
Thank you for touching on one of the potential problems with relying on frequency sweeps and then applying and keeping massive cuts to the frequencies found without any further question. 😁 I have found resonant frequencies with various synthesizers when playing them in different rooms. 😳 They weren't always the same resonant frequencies in other rooms either... And some even disappeared when other people walked into the room. 😯 Imagine that. 🤔 I know... It might sound "crazy", but it's true. 🤷🏼 Acoustics sure has some nerve. Just look at it sitting there being all acoustical and such. 🙄 Duh.🤦🏼 Sometimes I iz a dumb dummy. 😜 Stinkin' acoustics and its stinkin' principles. 🤣😂🤣😂
Another tip of you use Fabfilrer pro q2 or q3, put the mouse on the bottom of the waveform and let it analyze the sound source so it will show you what freq. Range is problematic, analyze the situation and try different things, see what works best FOR YOU! Professional audio engineers does this. I as a producer do this. And lastly, don't blast your ears and analyze it in low volume, because when it's fixed in low volume, it will sound good in higher volume 😉
Good stuff Yalcin. Really enjoying your content, has helped me to up my game a lot. I like to use ProQ3 for surgical eq cuts and use parametric eq’s for boosting and color. Ofcourse this is dependent of the situation.
Hey Yalcin, quick question. The gain matching for eq is only for a/b comparison or you have to always match the gain after any process not only eq? I believe this is gain staging, right? Thnaks for another great video.
I really like watching your videos. i always learn something new every time. I am a beginner level of music producer and my style and music is something like yours i.e. melodic house and techno . There's one thing though, You use Abelton and I use FL Studio that makes me doubt myself. Can you please guide me that is there's need to shift myself to Abelton from FL?? Any reply would be much appreciated.
nice vio Yalcin... Just a heads up: a couple of the changes you did, like the dip on the EQ in the middle and the A/B with volume matched at the end were too similar, even with good headphones it was virtually impossible to tell the difference. i reckon sometimes you need to exaggerate a bit more in order to make it noticeable on the youtube video ( even tough you make it more subtle in your actual tracks )..
I often learned using dynamic eq to not cut the body of sound all of the time - works pretty well. Basically if the graph in pro q3 doesn't show up red in frequency masking, the resonance can be kept. Pro q3 is the track spacer for the poor - just kidding. All of the sudden taking away all the resonance will take away other good parts as well. The theory goes the way that each sound is composed of many sine waves. Tone shaping eq takes almost a whole group of resonances at once making a large bump or hole... Depends on if the eq curve is boosted or attenuated. Same happens with the harmonics (by adding 2nd, 3rd order and so on for example in serum will give a fuller, saturated sound but having a phase bin on each harmonic just blasts my mind) A more advanced technique is using a keytrack detector and modulate the movement of the filters by notes, a pitch analyser works by zero crossings. More effective way for tone shaping is using two or more saturn 2 with a high quality setting which keeps you away from alaising and niquist reflection artifacts. (very important for acid and high screaming vibes) Back to eq it is prefered to have a narrower q on cuts and wider curves on boosts why is that so? Also a fan of gulfoss but my CPU dies :/ and rather new to the spectral shaper module in ozone 9. Basically the main goal is to not be scared by phase shifts and using what sounds better in the mix. I understand that taking away all resonances leaves you with a more 'mix fitting' sound as a byproduct of loudness wars to keep up with spectral balance to finally clash up everything by a limiter or maximizer.
Sweeping tip is gold, but with some sounds for me, a beginner it helped because after AB-ing I could literally hear the original sound having these annoying frequencies, BUT your method still would've worked and would be healthier for my hearing, that's the real danger here, boosting technique is not good for your ears.
Yup, good advice. So often we eq the The resonant frequency out and making the mix muddy. Apart from a 909 open hi hat tho, can we all agree? A B everything and u should be okay. P.s u deserve more subs.
I agree and disagree, if you have an acoustically very well treated room, looking for resonances (harsh frequencies) can work very well.Its depending a lot on volume and not many "studios" listen in the productionprocess as loud as for example a festivalsoundsystem so they often look for harsh frequencies in boosting them, to detect them more easy, and most of them do only extremely narrow dips. Thats why many professionals suggest it. If we talk about lightly or untreated rooms its a different story! I guess u might should have mentioned that a bit more clearly to avoid misunderstanding. Otherwise great video!
Everybody does the sweep eq to looking for a bad resonances, but I think that the Yalcin´s idea is take into consideration the room modes for make best decisions and for that everyone needs to know their rooms response. It's obvious that in a well treated room this problem is solved and the technique could be used ideally.
very useful thank you! Could you make a video in which you explain the definitions of mixing and mastering? And maybe give some examples? I feel like this is super basic, but I still don´t fully understand it I think.
Dissagree sound sculpting is a great way to clean a sound big cuts big boosts these are all things the pros do. I have been in the studio with seth drake and I can just say that there are so many things that we dont know and we will never learn on you tube ......... so yes it is ok to search for resonant peaks... the only rule is if it sounds good it is good.
Another thing is that last example you boosted 6dB in the EQ and then cut 6dB from the total. That way you added unnecessary artifacts and distortion, a better way would be to cut the unwanted frequencies from the EQ at the first step instead of boosting and that way you wouldn't need to cut the 6 dB off. I have never understood that MO, people always boost, then reduce the gain or the volume of the track. Better to cut then add track volume in order to reduce the amount of artifacts and distortion.
I have to disagree with you on the EQ sweep technique. Firstly you can tell if there is a resonant frequency with your ear but also by checking it again the volume meter. Also that technique was taught to me in person by an Abbey Road mixing engineer and I've also heard QZB suggest it (a dnb duo with the best mix-downs in the game). Anyway I love your channel , so much amazing content. I watch all your vids!
I just got a question to chapter 1. Do you mean to avoid pushing frequencys in general? Like pushing some kick frequencys. Or are you just talking about finding resonant frequencys?
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and I want to add that, hopefully, someday; I can look what I produce and think that, I am sincerely very glad to put effort on this. Saolunuz 😁
Kinda off-topic, but i'm wondering, is there any studies or anything to back what yalcin said about humans "always" prefering brighter sounds? I actually for one really love dark sounds. It does really depends on the sound of of course and it makes sense in the context of the mix to have a crispy high end contrasting the low end, but oh boy, nothing gets me going like a nice dark groove. Something as simple a just a very full and powerfull kick and rumble on its own, maybe with some kind of pad or vocal chop to make it more interesting.
I don't think that the people on the dancefloor will give thing about an EQ mistake, they are mostly drunk or high to even notice it :) If your song is good, it doesn't matter if the EQ is not 100% correct or the hihat is more "tiss" than "tess". Bjorn from the famous ABBA group said: I want to create music that you can enjoy on every system, than i know i made a good song!
I agree, I prefer a good track with a bad mix, over a bad track with a good mix. But this video is not about it. It is just about getting better with your toolkit. ☺
@@Alice-Efe I know what you mean, but it is all so relative and depending. Where you are , are you in a dance hall, in a big ⛺ or in the open air. Are you in the center or close to a 🔊. You can create a song to the best standards it needs (and what you should) but sometimes I think why the nitty gritty wasting time? 🙄
great tutorial .....but hahahaha the comment about miners was awesome..😂i had the same problem, cant find gpu...😂..regards and keep making these great videos..
@@Alice-Efe I did not comment much. But really I am super thankful for your afford and for really smart tutorials. You’re so much deep into music production knowledge. This is really pleasure to notice !!! And you really help me to upgrade my knowledge to reach better music production results and release good music into the universe 💯🍀🙏
Is FF Pro Q3 really so much better than EQ 8 in Ableton? I'm know it has way more functionality that is useful, dynamic eq being the major benefit over EQ8, but I wanna know if it is noticeably more accurate and better sounding to warrant the investment.
Sound wise, i don't think you will hear much difference. Main difference is functionality; especially dynamic eq part. Also overall workflow is more streamlined in Pro Q3. That being said, I used pro Q3 here just because it is more visual for presentation purposes.
actually you can build a dynamic EQ rack with EQ8, autofilter, envelope follower and gate. The only feature unavailable here is linear phase mode which is useful mostly for equing sounds that had been recorded with 2 or more mics, like drums usually are.
Yalcin Im deeply appreciative of the content you create and I think the music community is richer because of your contributions, But I have to ask this with all due respect, Are you secretly related to Lena Dunham?
I really enjoy all your videos but i can't not be honest about this and state that i think that you're making a bigger deal about those details than it matters. Most people will HARDLY hear the difference in any of those instances, and it's not wise for a producer to focus on THOSE details, they should just EQ the way it fits best for their flow. Still, big love for your work.
I use EQ sweeps to find harsh frequencies quite often, and advise doing so on my channel. Are you saying that because bedroom acoustics vary our EQ's aren't to be trusted and we might as well not use them? I mix in headphones personally, so that's not an issue for me. Your other argument...that this technique creates a problem which doesn't exist...didn't gel with me either. Oftentimes you won't hear how painful certain elements are until your music is played through a big sound system, and just like mono compatibility I think we should prepare for that even if it's not an issue on small speakers. Respect to your work though, I didn't dislike the video or anything :)
Exactly, if you are eq sweeping, you are going to hit to room modes and excite them; and believe that there is a problem even there isn't any. Hence, it is really bad advice for many beginner and intermediate producers as they are most likely sitting in an untreated room. When it comes to headphones, headphones have different frequency responses, and have they different issues. This is DT 770, one of the most popular headphones that that is been used in EDM. diyaudioheaven.files.wordpress.com/2021/08/dt770pro-fr.png Do you see that peak around 8-9k and 13-15k? That is why I often can tell a song is made with DT 770 as those frequencies are carved out from the track. If you use sweeping technique with DT707, you will carve out 13-15k every single time. Eq sweeping is not a reliable method for untrained ears, and it is not a proper method for trained ears sitting in untrained room. If you really know your headphones, or sitting in a proper studio, then occasionally, maybe.
@@Alice-Efe Thanks for taking the time to reply. I see your point about untrained ears or an untrained room. I use headphones with a flat frequency response and they seem to work well for me, but I'll agree that someone could misuse this technique...even hearing what resonances are piercing vs just unpleasant when boosted requires some discernment
You don’t always have to EQ. If you like the how it already sounds, then EQ will most likely change the phase relationship and cause problems that weren’t in the raw audio.
Do you have any advice on how to train your ear to hear different frequencies in a mix? I honestly can't hear the difference between the A/B examples at 5:15. But I'm guessing it becomes easier with practice.
Yeah, you'll definitely improve in time. A great way to get better at sound shaping/design or mixing is by making your own drums using a synth. There are quite a lot of tutorials on youtube on drum synthesis.
Its so subtle its more likely to be an issue with the method/device your listening on rather than your own ears not picking it up. I have 2 monitor speakers either side of me, quite loud and its still barely noticeable.
Stay away from parametric EQ until you feel like you can trust your ear. Parametric EQs are great but they kind of make producers rely on their eyes more than ears.
Similar to one like when a game lags due to low frame rate. When I just minimize the Izotope visualization it goes back to normal. I am also getting bugs with hardware GPU acceleration with some other softwares so I guess my GPU wants me to let it go.
Not really, as many studio headphones do not have flat response and sometimes weird resonant peaks. This is for example frequency response of dt770: diyaudioheaven.files.wordpress.com/2021/08/dt770pro-fr.png
Did I just see someone massaging a fish? LOL Good tips. The resonance one I agree and I still keep doing it!! BAD HABIT! Rather use Soothe nowadays to remove nasty resonances.
Giving that fish a proper massage before grilling it. Classic. 😅😅😅
@@Alice-Efe imo the boost sweeping works fine, if you make a bad room the reason for not boost sweeping it also makes cut sweeping useless, no ?
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl Eq sweeping is often made for above 1kHz. In high frequency soundwaves, the pressure goes up and down quicker comperad to low freqs meaning that the high-frequency sound wave's energy is spent quicker and it disappear quicker if it is not too loud. So if you don't boost them and use "cut sweeping" instead you are less effected of room modes.
You can think it this way, when you boost 9db, it is harder for your room to absorb it, and you will suffer more by room modes. However, when you use cut method, there is no extra 9 db and you are less prone to room modes. So it is safer and more neutral method overall.
I would use soothe if it wasn't so expensive..... someone hurry up and crack it 😂
Further common mistake about finding resonances: I've seen a lot of people completely killing the sound just for the sake of adjusting resonances continuously. Nonsense imo. Usually, resonances of a sound happen in a certain frequency range so yea, better a decent bell with some db of attenuation and the work is done! Don't overload your EQ.
I've always found the frequency exaggeration sweep counter intuitive , it literally all sounds bad when you sweep through it and yet a lot of professionals do it. A subtraction sweep just makes more sense, if you sweep through and it doesnt sound any better then it must not need it, simple.
i think this technique comes from live mixing, where you want to provoke resonances to be able to filter them quickly. This works if you want to a) EQ for the Room (Venue) b) want to be very quick with that and c) need to do it in a noisy environment where its hard to hear small dips very good.
But i also find it not very useful in the studio.
I just wanted to say I appreciate your advice. A lot of content creators seem to regurgitate what everyone else is saying/doing but your advice/knowledge is always refreshing to “hear”. Pun intended, lol
EQ mistake 6: Overly abusing high-pass. Makes a thin mix.
EQ mistake 7: To much boosting. I generally prefer cuts to correct some processing.
EQ mistake 8: No boosting at all. I love to boost before saturations.
EQ mistake 9: Hihats need that timbre! Don't overdo the cuts.
EQ mistake 10: Like Yalcin did in example 5.. spikes and mountains with multiple points. so weird, like an fabfilter ad would show.. Just boost the highs with one band.. You crazy people!
RE 'EQ mistake 10'
Creating an EQ shape like that in solo might not make sense, but you might have a sound that needs more high end, but you already have a hihat or some other element also in the highs. You want the hihat to have it's 'timbre' but might want to take some of those frequencies out of other elements so they don't build up.
When i cut resonant frequencies i use tiny spices cuts . I don't want to loose the test of the frequencies,just the small problematic areas. In mastering spices are not good but cleaning the mix i use them
There is sooooo much to learn from you! I wish you gave real life masterclasses. You're wayyyy too talented Yalcin, thanks for sharing everything
Cheers Imraan, appreciate it!
Yalcin: "Do you hear it?"
Me (no): "Oh yeah!"
Yalcin: “Do you hear it?”
Me: listening on the built-in laptop speakers 😂
YO! This is so TRUE!
Any bedroom sound nerd who ever MOVED has EXPERIENCED THIS!!! I moved two years ago after the entirety of my audio hobby existed in one other room and one other house. The only thing that changed WAS. THE. ROOM.
I produce/mix/master the exact same way. That didn’t changed. Same equipment. Same method.
My tracks made in the new place feels like a novice did it. I had to go with emulation headphones just to remove the modes I have yet to learn here.
Dipping the eq and seeing if anything stands out more pleasantly seemed like it made more sense, because really if you raise the eq and sweep everything sounds particularly bad or strange. I thought dipping made more sense but I thought what would I know, I'm not a professional. Good to a pro see's it this way too.
4:20 can also do this with bespoke panning fx like S1 Imager for example. It’s not only panning but positioning.
Good advices, although what you describe in step 1 is the problem of an inaccurate room. No matter what you do boost or cut it will be inaccurate until you fix your room.
Another great video mate!
Also with your first tip, I remember someone telling me that if you boost any frequency by 10,11,12 or 18 DB it will be annoying. So I have followed your advise and been doing the cut to find problem frequencies.
Hands down, these are some of the best damn tutorials I've ever watched, and I watched tons of them, trust me. Awesome content right here.
Thank you for touching on one of the potential problems with relying on frequency sweeps and then applying and keeping massive cuts to the frequencies found without any further question. 😁
I have found resonant frequencies with various synthesizers when playing them in different rooms. 😳
They weren't always the same resonant frequencies in other rooms either... And some even disappeared when other people walked into the room. 😯
Imagine that. 🤔
I know... It might sound "crazy", but it's true. 🤷🏼
Acoustics sure has some nerve. Just look at it sitting there being all acoustical and such. 🙄
Duh.🤦🏼
Sometimes I iz a dumb dummy. 😜
Stinkin' acoustics and its stinkin' principles. 🤣😂🤣😂
Can't even imagine where I would be at without your tutorials! Thank you so much!
man, you have a very soothing voice
love your videos!
Wow, Some heartstoppers there, I always found to take energy away by scanning for displeasing frequencies
Very good. Listening in context is a must. When EQing I find that taking away the unnecessary is far better than boosting things all over the place.
Another tip of you use Fabfilrer pro q2 or q3, put the mouse on the bottom of the waveform and let it analyze the sound source so it will show you what freq. Range is problematic, analyze the situation and try different things, see what works best FOR YOU! Professional audio engineers does this. I as a producer do this. And lastly, don't blast your ears and analyze it in low volume, because when it's fixed in low volume, it will sound good in higher volume 😉
Teşekkürler Yalçın. Önemli konulara değinmişsin. Takipteyiz 👍
this is literally the best channel, please never stop
Good stuff Yalcin. Really enjoying your content, has helped me to up my game a lot. I like to use ProQ3 for surgical eq cuts and use parametric eq’s for boosting and color. Ofcourse this is dependent of the situation.
I subscribed after the first video. Super tips ! Great TH-cam channel 👍🏽
This is pure gold, like honestly
Hey Yalcin, quick question. The gain matching for eq is only for a/b comparison or you have to always match the gain after any process not only eq? I believe this is gain staging, right? Thnaks for another great video.
Wow, the last one is so interesting! I think I’m also doing it, definitely relevant then. I’m gonna fix it rn thanksss 🙏🥰
These tips are gold! 👍
I really like watching your videos. i always learn something new every time. I am a beginner level of music producer and my style and music is something like yours i.e. melodic house and techno . There's one thing though, You use Abelton and I use FL Studio that makes me doubt myself. Can you please guide me that is there's need to shift myself to Abelton from FL?? Any reply would be much appreciated.
nice vio Yalcin...
Just a heads up: a couple of the changes you did, like the dip on the EQ in the middle and the A/B with volume matched at the end were too similar, even with good headphones it was virtually impossible to tell the difference. i reckon sometimes you need to exaggerate a bit more in order to make it noticeable on the youtube video ( even tough you make it more subtle in your actual tracks )..
I often learned using dynamic eq to not cut the body of sound all of the time - works pretty well. Basically if the graph in pro q3 doesn't show up red in frequency masking, the resonance can be kept. Pro q3 is the track spacer for the poor - just kidding.
All of the sudden taking away all the resonance will take away other good parts as well. The theory goes the way that each sound is composed of many sine waves. Tone shaping eq takes almost a whole group of resonances at once making a large bump or hole... Depends on if the eq curve is boosted or attenuated.
Same happens with the harmonics (by adding 2nd, 3rd order and so on for example in serum will give a fuller, saturated sound but having a phase bin on each harmonic just blasts my mind)
A more advanced technique is using a keytrack detector and modulate the movement of the filters by notes, a pitch analyser works by zero crossings.
More effective way for tone shaping is using two or more saturn 2 with a high quality setting which keeps you away from alaising and niquist reflection artifacts. (very important for acid and high screaming vibes) Back to eq it is prefered to have a narrower q on cuts and wider curves on boosts why is that so?
Also a fan of gulfoss but my CPU dies :/ and rather new to the spectral shaper module in ozone 9. Basically the main goal is to not be scared by phase shifts and using what sounds better in the mix. I understand that taking away all resonances leaves you with a more 'mix fitting' sound as a byproduct of loudness wars to keep up with spectral balance to finally clash up everything by a limiter or maximizer.
Sweeping tip is gold, but with some sounds for me, a beginner it helped because after AB-ing I could literally hear the original sound having these annoying frequencies, BUT your method still would've worked and would be healthier for my hearing, that's the real danger here, boosting technique is not good for your ears.
You are very good at this. Thank you very much.
Another great video 😊 have you ever considered doing a start to finish track series or a sound design series? Think that could be really cool
I have already done one, have you seen it? 😊
@@Alice-Efe no i haven't😱 whats it called? I'll take a look now, thanks 😊
very good explanation & examples 👍
Your info is so valuable, Yalcin, thank you
Learnt a clearer concept of EQ from your tutorial video 🙏🏾
Yup, good advice. So often we eq the The resonant frequency out and making the mix muddy. Apart from a 909 open hi hat tho, can we all agree?
A B everything and u should be okay.
P.s u deserve more subs.
I agree and disagree, if you have an acoustically very well treated room, looking for resonances (harsh frequencies) can work very well.Its depending a lot on volume and not many "studios" listen in the productionprocess as loud as for example a festivalsoundsystem so they often look for harsh frequencies in boosting them, to detect them more easy, and most of them do only extremely narrow dips.
Thats why many professionals suggest it. If we talk about lightly or untreated rooms its a different story! I guess u might should have mentioned that a bit more clearly to avoid misunderstanding.
Otherwise great video!
Everybody does the sweep eq to looking for a bad resonances, but I think that the Yalcin´s idea is take into consideration the room modes for make best decisions and for that everyone needs to know their rooms response. It's obvious that in a well treated room this problem is solved and the technique could be used ideally.
very useful thank you! Could you make a video in which you explain the definitions of mixing and mastering? And maybe give some examples? I feel like this is super basic, but I still don´t fully understand it I think.
Dissagree sound sculpting is a great way to clean a sound big cuts big boosts these are all things the pros do. I have been in the studio with seth drake and I can just say that there are so many things that we dont know and we will never learn on you tube ......... so yes it is ok to search for resonant peaks... the only rule is if it sounds good it is good.
Another thing is that last example you boosted 6dB in the EQ and then cut 6dB from the total. That way you added unnecessary artifacts and distortion, a better way would be to cut the unwanted frequencies from the EQ at the first step instead of boosting and that way you wouldn't need to cut the 6 dB off. I have never understood that MO, people always boost, then reduce the gain or the volume of the track. Better to cut then add track volume in order to reduce the amount of artifacts and distortion.
I have to disagree with you on the EQ sweep technique. Firstly you can tell if there is a resonant frequency with your ear but also by checking it again the volume meter. Also that technique was taught to me in person by an Abbey Road mixing engineer and I've also heard QZB suggest it (a dnb duo with the best mix-downs in the game). Anyway I love your channel , so much amazing content. I watch all your vids!
I just got a question to chapter 1. Do you mean to avoid pushing frequencys in general? Like pushing some kick frequencys. Or are you just talking about finding resonant frequencys?
Another issue: considering if the sound even NEEDS equalization.
Thanks a lot for share!
I love your playful smile and face expression at 8:06 :) !! knowing that we will all fall in the "EQ on" is better ;)
That happiness face when listening Kick A....👍🏼
The sweep is useful in live sound though since you want correct against the room.
Sine wave sweeping is one of the easiest way to spot the room modes. For the exact same reason 😊
@@Alice-Efe Have to be careful not to carry the habit into my mixes. Thank you for the great video.
Me starts defrosting salmon while going back to my current project to redo the EQ.
Perfect combo! 😅💯
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and I want to add that, hopefully, someday; I can look what I produce and think that, I am sincerely very glad to put effort on this. Saolunuz 😁
Kinda off-topic, but i'm wondering, is there any studies or anything to back what yalcin said about humans "always" prefering brighter sounds? I actually for one really love dark sounds. It does really depends on the sound of of course and it makes sense in the context of the mix to have a crispy high end contrasting the low end, but oh boy, nothing gets me going like a nice dark groove. Something as simple a just a very full and powerfull kick and rumble on its own, maybe with some kind of pad or vocal chop to make it more interesting.
I don't think that the people on the dancefloor will give thing about an EQ mistake, they are mostly drunk or high to even notice it :) If your song is good, it doesn't matter if the EQ is not 100% correct or the hihat is more "tiss" than "tess". Bjorn from the famous ABBA group said: I want to create music that you can enjoy on every system, than i know i made a good song!
I agree, I prefer a good track with a bad mix, over a bad track with a good mix. But this video is not about it. It is just about getting better with your toolkit. ☺
@@Alice-Efe I know what you mean, but it is all so relative and depending. Where you are , are you in a dance hall, in a big ⛺ or in the open air. Are you in the center or close to a 🔊. You can create a song to the best standards it needs (and what you should) but sometimes I think why the nitty gritty wasting time? 🙄
Great video!
great tips and examples 🔥
This is great, so many times I fucked up tracks by trying poorly to mix two high end elements in solo.
Dang it, I'm doing a lot of these EQ mistakes
I think we have all done most of it ☺✌
Sweeping an eq to find a problem frequency is fine by me.
How else would you pinpoint snare frequency or bass drum fundamentals?
Listen if there is a problem without boosting already.
Is it ok to mix in a headphones like at ath m50x with sonarworks rather than on monitors without great acustics?
Is it still a good idea to use mono/stereo and L/R EQ'ing if I use things like the HAAS effect or Wider VST, these already spread out sound
It depends on what you want, especially HAAS on sustained sounds could create a lot of issues.
great tutorial .....but hahahaha the comment about miners was awesome..😂i had the same problem, cant find gpu...😂..regards and keep making these great videos..
Your videos are the best
AMAZING!!!! Thanks man really good and to the point tips with very good examples!!! Cant shake the feeling of massaging a smoked salmon LOL
At the EQ A and EQ B comparison you show 2 times EQ B, so i have not seen how the smoother sounding EQ A was build. Please?
The sweep technique is also bad when mixing with headphones? Then the room is not in the equation.
I cant figure out how I got here, but thank you for the video! I am sure it will help me put some "space in between" my next mix ;) ..
Great advice! 👌🏾
Hello Yalcin ! Thank you very much for your tutorials.
Cheers Vadim
@@Alice-Efe I did not comment much. But really I am super thankful for your afford and for really smart tutorials. You’re so much deep into music production knowledge. This is really pleasure to notice !!! And you really help me to upgrade my knowledge to reach better music production results and release good music into the universe 💯🍀🙏
I love your teaching style. I'd love a lesson!!!
Is FF Pro Q3 really so much better than EQ 8 in Ableton? I'm know it has way more functionality that is useful, dynamic eq being the major benefit over EQ8, but I wanna know if it is noticeably more accurate and better sounding to warrant the investment.
Sound wise, i don't think you will hear much difference.
Main difference is functionality; especially dynamic eq part.
Also overall workflow is more streamlined in Pro Q3.
That being said, I used pro Q3 here just because it is more visual for presentation purposes.
Make sure you turn on oversampling for the EQ8 and you're good.
actually you can build a dynamic EQ rack with EQ8, autofilter, envelope follower and gate. The only feature unavailable here is linear phase mode which is useful mostly for equing sounds that had been recorded with 2 or more mics, like drums usually are.
Great Video! I used to sweep all the time but not anymore lol
Sweeping works for me but I don't sweep with a lot of of gain and narrow q. Just a little
Thank you !!! 🙏 such a useful informations
Yalcin Im deeply appreciative of the content you create and I think the music community is richer because of your contributions, But I have to ask this with all due respect, Are you secretly related to Lena Dunham?
i actually prefered EQ B with the less natural curves
That's why you should use headphones and only pull it down slightly
Good one💯
Can those wave go into avenger vps, and or any vest synth?
Is the track on the outro yours? I’d love to hear some dnb tutorials from you.
I really enjoy all your videos but i can't not be honest about this and state that i think that you're making a bigger deal about those details than it matters. Most people will HARDLY hear the difference in any of those instances, and it's not wise for a producer to focus on THOSE details, they should just EQ the way it fits best for their flow. Still, big love for your work.
What is the song in the background at 7:07 please?
Very helpfull tips thank you very much 🌻🚀
I use EQ sweeps to find harsh frequencies quite often, and advise doing so on my channel. Are you saying that because bedroom acoustics vary our EQ's aren't to be trusted and we might as well not use them? I mix in headphones personally, so that's not an issue for me. Your other argument...that this technique creates a problem which doesn't exist...didn't gel with me either. Oftentimes you won't hear how painful certain elements are until your music is played through a big sound system, and just like mono compatibility I think we should prepare for that even if it's not an issue on small speakers. Respect to your work though, I didn't dislike the video or anything :)
Exactly, if you are eq sweeping, you are going to hit to room modes and excite them; and believe that there is a problem even there isn't any. Hence, it is really bad advice for many beginner and intermediate producers as they are most likely sitting in an untreated room.
When it comes to headphones, headphones have different frequency responses, and have they different issues. This is DT 770, one of the most popular headphones that that is been used in EDM.
diyaudioheaven.files.wordpress.com/2021/08/dt770pro-fr.png
Do you see that peak around 8-9k and 13-15k? That is why I often can tell a song is made with DT 770 as those frequencies are carved out from the track. If you use sweeping technique with DT707, you will carve out 13-15k every single time.
Eq sweeping is not a reliable method for untrained ears, and it is not a proper method for trained ears sitting in untrained room. If you really know your headphones, or sitting in a proper studio, then occasionally, maybe.
@@Alice-Efe Thanks for taking the time to reply. I see your point about untrained ears or an untrained room. I use headphones with a flat frequency response and they seem to work well for me, but I'll agree that someone could misuse this technique...even hearing what resonances are piercing vs just unpleasant when boosted requires some discernment
thank you master~!!!
The biggest EQ mistake?
Not doing any EQ-ing !
You don’t always have to EQ. If you like the how it already sounds, then EQ will most likely change the phase relationship and cause problems that weren’t in the raw audio.
We want to see on next video all about rhythm
Do you have any advice on how to train your ear to hear different frequencies in a mix?
I honestly can't hear the difference between the A/B examples at 5:15. But I'm guessing it becomes easier with practice.
Yeah, you'll definitely improve in time. A great way to get better at sound shaping/design or mixing is by making your own drums using a synth. There are quite a lot of tutorials on youtube on drum synthesis.
Its so subtle its more likely to be an issue with the method/device your listening on rather than your own ears not picking it up. I have 2 monitor speakers either side of me, quite loud and its still barely noticeable.
Stay away from parametric EQ until you feel like you can trust your ear. Parametric EQs are great but they kind of make producers rely on their eyes more than ears.
Awesome thanks man ....
Good tips
Nice one
lol i immediately said kick A since i knew it would sound better in the mix
Best teacher
great video
The resonance one wouldn't work if you would use headphones, right?
5:40 to me B sounded better :/ but if everyone else finds A better than I will need to choose the one that sounds worse for me each time I'm EQing :D
Great lesson 👌
Me doing the Sweeping eq Boost technique feeling like a Pro 🤡 Lol.
Love this kind of videos Yalcin. Thanks!!
haha cheers Leonardo!😊
How exactly is the relation between GPU and the soundglitches?
Btw very nice vids!
Similar to one like when a game lags due to low frame rate. When I just minimize the Izotope visualization it goes back to normal. I am also getting bugs with hardware GPU acceleration with some other softwares so I guess my GPU wants me to let it go.
Don't watch your monitor when you A/B. Your eyes will trick you, better if you don't know which is A and which is B.
We learn all time from your videos :)
Cheers Adrian!
If that devilish smile at 1:03 doesnt deserve a sub and a like , i dont know what does XD
Gold.
Question does using the sweep technique in headphones avoid the pitfalls of the room nodes?
Not really, as many studio headphones do not have flat response and sometimes weird resonant peaks. This is for example frequency response of dt770: diyaudioheaven.files.wordpress.com/2021/08/dt770pro-fr.png
@@Alice-Efe OK cheers dude, I'll try the sweeping cut instead! :)
If you use Sonarworks Reference, you can make your headphones have a flat response. It comes with profiles for certain common headphones.