The 4 rules of techno minimalism

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  • A lot of dance music revolves around maximising the impact of a very limited set of musical ideas. How do we achieve minimalist elegance but avoid sounding amateur, simplistic, underproduced?
    Here are the 4 steps to getting effective minimalist productions.
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    Contents:
    0:00 The four magic ingredients
    2:38 How to groove at all levels
    5:24 How to create movement in the timbre
    7:00 Dealing with too much movement
    9:19 The golden rule of movement
    9:29 How to add polymeters to your techno groove
    14:45 How to build tension and release in minimalist music
    17:27 Summary and next steps

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  • @OscarUnderdog
    @OscarUnderdog  ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Oscar's video courses ► courses.underdog.brussels 🖤🖤🖤
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    Torc ► soundcloud.com/torcaudio 🏴‍☠🏴‍☠🏴‍☠
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    • @leejohnson197733
      @leejohnson197733 ปีที่แล้ว

      Be good to see a house beat creation, it's difficult to get certain drums to feel like they are rolling or shuffling towards the clap like in deep house

  • @JWIE791
    @JWIE791 ปีที่แล้ว +470

    You always make me wanna get up and go straight into the DAW. Thank you.

    • @twatmunro
      @twatmunro ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah, I can never get through an episode without having to bust Ableton open mid video.

    • @decapitateallcops3214
      @decapitateallcops3214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But do you? I sure dont

    • @jocee2257
      @jocee2257 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@decapitateallcops3214 Good motivation is to realise that if you don't open up ableton and follow your dream, you will regret it before you die.

    • @decapitateallcops3214
      @decapitateallcops3214 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jocee2257 I open Ableton and every time regret that it isn’t FL Studio that Im working in

    • @jocee2257
      @jocee2257 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@decapitateallcops3214 substitute ableton with daw and you will see what I mean.
      and btw, everyone knows FL studio ain't really good for anyone above rookie level.
      I notice it is mostly used by trap artists, and trap music being obviously low IQ music. At most, a gateway to real limitless daw's like ableton and bitwig.

  • @Gregorovitch144
    @Gregorovitch144 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I'd wager a tidy sum a lot of folks who watched this are gonna make the tune they're currently working on sound a whole heap better.

    • @OscarUnderdog
      @OscarUnderdog  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I hope you’re right 🤞

    • @crescentmoon_aus
      @crescentmoon_aus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@OscarUnderdog you are def helping me with my track and album!

    • @Semperf11
      @Semperf11 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree

  • @riobit
    @riobit 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Man, just love you.
    I'm 54, from Buenos Aires. Started using a bit deeper Ableton 2 years ago.
    A Beatstep called a miniLab and then the SQ-64. Then came the volca Sample , TR-6S and the Roland S-1
    Well, now is time to learn. I never subscribe myself to any channel.
    But your deserve it.
    Thanks a lot.
    You make the universe be nice
    Que sea Rock

  • @JamesRamboPearce
    @JamesRamboPearce ปีที่แล้ว +105

    A tip for ya! You can reverse any audio clip by simply pressing R (so you don't need to menu dive!)

    • @lecoughskiofficial
      @lecoughskiofficial ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Came to say the same, so much faster, I need a chart for all the shortcuts

    • @omnifvck2596
      @omnifvck2596 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lecoughskiofficial you can get a keyboard overlay

    • @Sidestepleft
      @Sidestepleft ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ❤️ u angel

    • @MaNuLaToROfficial
      @MaNuLaToROfficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@omnifvck2596 ?

    • @yeahna
      @yeahna ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ableton shortcuts are pretty intuitive and easy to learn. I appreaciate that he doesn't include them they make tutorials boring and take away from musical making

  • @zenchiefengineer
    @zenchiefengineer ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This information is far more important than some people realize. I'm guilty of the "amateur" and "underproduced"

  • @lemurdreamur9257
    @lemurdreamur9257 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There isn't enough love for techno out there.

  • @cheddarcheezit2647
    @cheddarcheezit2647 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:51I didn't fully get how flat the "no groove" was until you switched back to it... the "yes groove" has a sort of heartbeat to it, a rolling.

  • @ibrahimmancilla500
    @ibrahimmancilla500 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These are the rules not only for techno but for life

  • @MNolanMillar
    @MNolanMillar ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I don't usually make Techno, but these are solid tips for composition.

  • @jordandellinger4718
    @jordandellinger4718 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro, that posters free. Mind-blown 🤯

  • @MordioMusic
    @MordioMusic ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Using polyrhythmic alone, bring you far with minimalistic music.
    One of the best trick for techno music ☝️
    Good video.
    Greetings from berlin

  • @philharmonie3006
    @philharmonie3006 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    it's crazy how much useful information you put in these 18 minutes. Basically a guideline for developing an electronic music track in general, helped me a lot!

  • @g_aware_nerd
    @g_aware_nerd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the look of excitement in his eyes...he's like a little kid! Nothing like passionate teachers!

  • @oscillatorstorm
    @oscillatorstorm ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I love how these great tutorials can be aplied to so many more genres than techno

  • @budsticky
    @budsticky ปีที่แล้ว +76

    This might be my favorite video of yours yet. Would love to see a video about how you take something like this and hold that interest for a full 7 minute track, especially in this minimal style. I feel like it's kind of touched on here as you show how to create the tension and "make them wait," but would still love to see a video on expanding ideas like this out even further. Great stuff. About to go try some of these techniques to a track I'm currently working on to see if I can improve it.

    • @StillnessinMotion
      @StillnessinMotion ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Love this idea. I'm all about the "track in 90 minutes" style videos and think Oscar would make a great one to show the start to finish decision making.

  • @nitrotuneofficial4196
    @nitrotuneofficial4196 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have been watching tutorials more than 10 years about grooves, techno, edm, etc. and honestly this is the best one I have ever watched!

  • @KulshanStudios
    @KulshanStudios ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Pan Modulation is a favorite trick of ours for adding extra movement and groove - works great on midrange dotted basslines for creating bouncing plucked basses that make the mix feel more expansive and interesting without affecting stereo phase or cause sub bass clashes. Prophet Rev2 and Virus TI are superb for these kinds of sounds!

  • @AlexRanedo
    @AlexRanedo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another stellar 'tutorial'! In that it totally IS a tutorial but it's you producing at the same time and in a groove. Love it. Great minimal track aswell, fair play.

  • @DanChippendaleMusic
    @DanChippendaleMusic ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love that your videos, while based in the DAW, give inspiration and advice on music theory that can be applied to DAWless music too 👍🏼

  • @flatlyna2223
    @flatlyna2223 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great content as always - you never fail to inspire me your insights and technical elements.

  • @TaiWyban
    @TaiWyban ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow really great tips. This definitely took some of my basic sounding techno beats to the next level!

  • @roccothamanoidis
    @roccothamanoidis ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the most comprehensive and understandable cookbook for techno I found so far.

  • @stevelane5465
    @stevelane5465 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Watched hundreds of hours of TH-cam videos over the last couple of years but learned more in 20 mins from this video than all the others!! Can't wait to see the others! Great work.

  • @kavokei1337
    @kavokei1337 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Cheers Oscar, I really to appreciate your consistently interesting, inspiring and actionable videos. You always find some original approach or subject that nobody else seems to be talking about.

    • @allyouracid
      @allyouracid ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What I really like about it is: i almost never use any DAW, so when watching his videos, my mind always messes with how to implement this with my hardware. And most of the times, i find solutions, so I'm learning new things, but also am "forced" to get to know my gear better - double win. 👍
      Thanks, Oscar.

  • @shaun919
    @shaun919 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Oscar your content is fantastic !
    I do have a question; do you actually cover how to make/design these grooves in a separate video ? or maybe in your course ?
    Thank you again for your content; it's truly top notch knowledge, well produced and entertaining 🙏

  • @micromando4669
    @micromando4669 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simply awesome! Now i hopefully can implement my own produnction styles i developed over the years into something consistent and useable for the audience 🙏🏼

  • @mathiasholzer7216
    @mathiasholzer7216 ปีที่แล้ว

    An endless source of inspiration ❤ Thank you for that.

  • @DEXM_
    @DEXM_ ปีที่แล้ว

    You make it look so easy, love your content!

  • @NoyaD9
    @NoyaD9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial! Minimal and straight to the point! Well done!

  • @saschaz1
    @saschaz1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very concise and informative tutorial. Highly appreciated!

  • @neutralistrecordss
    @neutralistrecordss ปีที่แล้ว

    Need more like this, love your content man!

  • @andreasaldal415
    @andreasaldal415 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    even looonger tension, sneak in acid sequence (polymeter dancepartner) and boom! Drops with -1oct acid sequence and polypartner gets spicier over time 😎

  • @rxbynwubs
    @rxbynwubs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This tutorial is good for more than just techno. It's a good fundamental tool for understanding how to engineer your drum patterns

  • @jantomasjuza7907
    @jantomasjuza7907 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very inspiring! Great tips with many creative possibilities. I'm definitely going to watch other videos you made. Thanks.

  • @allyouracid
    @allyouracid ปีที่แล้ว

    So much great input here, even when you don't use a DAW. This is also probably my favorite one of your videos.

  • @mit136speichenumdiewelt
    @mit136speichenumdiewelt ปีที่แล้ว

    Oscar this is what i'm waiting for. After so many videos this is the right one. Please do more in this regard and share it via pattern sheet. Thank you!

  • @ohnree4110
    @ohnree4110 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simply fantastic video with very clear examples and practical application! Wonderful editing too

  • @synchro505
    @synchro505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much useful information packed into a single video! These techniques would likely be applicable to other styles of music entirely. Great stuff, many thanks.

  • @SzilvayPeter
    @SzilvayPeter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome! It answers a question I always had but never consciously asked it.

  • @jgr6955
    @jgr6955 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice!!! Thank you!

  • @cryspimusic
    @cryspimusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your videos cover the parts of production that really push people from amateur to professional. Thanks for all your work!

  • @vohomusic
    @vohomusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Decades of experience condensed in a few sentences. This is golden.

  • @RealJulWhite
    @RealJulWhite ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I produce for a while now, like 6-7 years and I always love how your videos explain me everything I've self-taught myself, difference is, I finally understand technically what I'm actually doing. Keep up the fantastic work! Really love your teaching method!

  • @NOEL-004
    @NOEL-004 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The tip with dealing too much movement is again a hidden gem. Love this channel
    Keep it up Oscar

  • @vincenzobeck2628
    @vincenzobeck2628 ปีที่แล้ว

    This tutorial was crazy thanks a lot🙌

  • @AaronWacker
    @AaronWacker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for teaching groove, movement, polymeters and tension & release. Brilliant Lesson in minimalist electronic music production.

  • @nicholaskreifels8102
    @nicholaskreifels8102 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was exactly what I needed right now. I am looking for a how to, on something I'm not sure how to describe. I made a newbie track that has this element that I want to understand and make more use of, but I pulled it from a preset in pigments 3. I plan on studying the sound and design, but would love to see a tutorial on it if I could ever find one.

  • @themachinestops23
    @themachinestops23 ปีที่แล้ว

    These tips are golden! Real fundamental stuff that is so easy to forget...

  • @SLATER_M
    @SLATER_M ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Oscar for sharing your knowledge. Always a pleasure to watch your videos. :-)

  • @bobbyrinehart1299
    @bobbyrinehart1299 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oscar dropping the knowledge on us again! Thanks for sharing! ✌

  • @veronikakachurovska9567
    @veronikakachurovska9567 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg your explanations are so fun!) The groove is spreading through you)))❤

  • @vonantesberg5796
    @vonantesberg5796 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the tips. As always. Your content is gold!

  • @john_atco
    @john_atco ปีที่แล้ว

    It is about time someone pointed out these facts. Well done.

  • @Nic_ciekawego..._256
    @Nic_ciekawego..._256 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your lesson helped a lot, after that i wrote my first lody. Thank you very much.

  • @pavle988
    @pavle988 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Best tutor,ever. Period!

  • @BoboLearns
    @BoboLearns 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Magic!

  • @alansyoutube
    @alansyoutube หลายเดือนก่อน

    This really was so helpful ❤

  • @JuliusJuluis
    @JuliusJuluis ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this great video. It Let me listen to older tracks and realize how much more I´m doing the things from your video now, compared to 1 year old tracks. :)

  • @StudioNvzt
    @StudioNvzt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of your best, if not your BEST video ! Thanks a lot for all these pieces of advice, learned a lot, and now I just want to go in the DAW to experiment that!!

  • @seancambern1235
    @seancambern1235 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much for the education and inspiration!

  • @arienking4723
    @arienking4723 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that was an absolute groove

  • @BDNB-baddognobiscuit
    @BDNB-baddognobiscuit ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work on your videos.
    Very helpful and well explained

  • @ivicai3281
    @ivicai3281 ปีที่แล้ว

    One more awesome tutorial! Thanks Oscar!

  • @macmichi77
    @macmichi77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for all your youtube videos ( i have not seen them all already i am not even close to...) but even the fact that i use a diffrent DAW then you do, watching the videos makes me switch between programing something new, watching the next part and so on. Your enthusiasm is really pushing me to go on an on - thanks for that. You are a real good teacher all the "How-To-Stuff" and also the most Videos " exclusive " for My DAW and the controller i bought with arent that fresh sparkling and inspiring to me. i come from djing, than i got father , than my job just ate me up (btw i was Patissier in Frankfurts Cocoon-Club) with even 3000 Watts in The Kitchen so i got rid of all this electronic Music Stuff ....untill Bands Gorrilaz, Hot Chip, Djuma- and LCD Soundsystem got me back on track and i decided to jump into the cold water and try to do some tracks on my own. I never played an instrument (guess Turntables dont count) , but you are a HUUUUGE help getting closer and closer to shrink the gap between my ideas and my musically output!
    (I am really low on money, otherwise i'd Get the whole course. But if you need some cooking, baking or pastry help i think i could give something back ;)
    P.S. Please excuse my bad english

  • @EvilSoundsDE
    @EvilSoundsDE ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your videos are absolutly great! Just booked you course "Industrial Techno" and can not stop watching,... so many little ideas I got,... and I'm currently at Chapter 3!

  • @nooni3698
    @nooni3698 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Oscar, thanks! Great contents indeed, love the format: concise, informative videos that make you want to experiment rather than having you stare at the monitor for hours. Keep it up! Ah, is there a link to the other posters?

  • @malinescuucsenilam6265
    @malinescuucsenilam6265 ปีที่แล้ว

    The polymeter reminds me of Acid Eiffel. Excelent tutorial.

  •  ปีที่แล้ว

    This was just awesome! Thanks a lot!

  • @locres123
    @locres123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best video in the history of music production tutorials. Thank you sir!

  • @FFabianoFonseca
    @FFabianoFonseca 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    luky ive found you! i use to make songs FULL of EVERTYHING... now, i will try to relax and do as you showed... thknx

  • @Badgerr99
    @Badgerr99 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another excellent video, thank you Oscar 🙏

  • @real.demesure
    @real.demesure ปีที่แล้ว

    You hit where you should ! I was really waiting for that

  • @amado7760
    @amado7760 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are the man Oscar, so much producer wisdom :)

  • @brucemillar
    @brucemillar ปีที่แล้ว

    Informative as ever. Thanks once again Oscar. Best wishes.

  • @justinsaunders1459
    @justinsaunders1459 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another triumph, Oscar, thank you for sharing!

  • @SuperTakearide
    @SuperTakearide ปีที่แล้ว

    Many thx for your works, so much things to say about syncopation, groove and ternaire :)

  • @billy_crimson
    @billy_crimson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is insanely good, thanks Oscar!

  • @mvanbreemen
    @mvanbreemen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is genius! Something that I’ve been looking for for a very long time.

  • @s3ktormusic
    @s3ktormusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks a lot for this video man, I was struggling with my new track and got inspired by your video, all the best for you and your family

  • @bellyeyed
    @bellyeyed ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed this,especially the polymeter solo'd tip

  • @greatatomfleet7548
    @greatatomfleet7548 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is pure gold. Thanks 👍

  • @Stokhos
    @Stokhos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love watching your videos. Lol I’m at a thanksgiving get together and I’m in the corner watching your videos 😂 happy thanksgiving! Very thankful for you and these videos!!

  • @Ark-Hive_DJ
    @Ark-Hive_DJ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely outstanding work, thanks for sharing this incredible knowledge!!! Invaluable

  • @TheRealGlassLeg
    @TheRealGlassLeg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Genuinely one of the best tutorials for this style and sound I've ever found. Love your videos and thank you for making these!

  • @djerikhorton
    @djerikhorton ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video with awesome tips and ideas. This was very impactful and beneficial for me. Thank you!

  • @noduj
    @noduj ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos, the next thing i always do, is to start my DAW and work on my skills.

  • @SandroMassarani
    @SandroMassarani ปีที่แล้ว

    Great as always. Thank you very much!

  • @deeply.shallow
    @deeply.shallow ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lesson! Thank you!

  • @fluctura
    @fluctura ปีที่แล้ว

    Man. Thank you. No more words needed. Just: Thank you!

  • @ringtangting
    @ringtangting ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool vid! I love these simple low basslines.

  • @H_ologramic
    @H_ologramic ปีที่แล้ว

    succinct and inspiring, as always!

  • @fabgott8026
    @fabgott8026 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazingly explained.
    Short and efficient

  • @antonyshadowbanned
    @antonyshadowbanned ปีที่แล้ว

    Super useful video, even for other types of music, thanks a lot!

  • @ouatedephoque
    @ouatedephoque ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah yeah ! That's what i needed back in the days, when I started creating music !

  • @slackdave
    @slackdave ปีที่แล้ว

    5:04 ... I really enjoy switiching between the amateur and not so amateur version.

  • @crossbow9002
    @crossbow9002 ปีที่แล้ว

    ah this is so interesting! especially the part regarding the poly meters, thanks:)

  • @cmaignan35
    @cmaignan35 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very great tuto !!
    Thanks for yours tips

  • @zachteel1502
    @zachteel1502 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video, first of yours I've seen and I'm subscribed now! Thank you!

  • @aliaksandrilyushenka5597
    @aliaksandrilyushenka5597 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You're a genius, man. Thank you!