I no longer have a need for my old gas saws, just back yard cleanup now. Love the electric , low noise , no exhaust fumes , Plenty of power , ready to go when I need it and no pulling on the rope with bad shoulders. Clear winner for me at this stage of my life.
99% of the woodworking can be done with an electric, unless you have to go in the middle of the woods for 8hs and destroy some 500y/o forest, there's no need to use gas. Usually you'll just have a big chunk of wood and an outlet nearby to use it. I do not like battery saws, who owns the battery?
@@mr2octavio Well not exactly like that, 3 days ago I went help a friend logging wood for the fireplace from a pile, I take my 2 battery saws Stihl MSA300 and MSA220C, 4 AP300S and 4 AP500S batteries fully charged along with 2 chargers AL500, to make a long story short I run out of batteries. We where by the house with chargers plugged in from the start, cutting continuous on oak logs not only the batteries got discharged fast also got hot and not charge back before the cool of. The saws are fine, excellent, battery technology still light years away for professional use.
I agree. I have around a dozen battery operated chainsaws. Power is not a problem. It's the batteries overheating that is a very big problem in my largest saws. The biggest one has no difficulty running a 24" bar, but if I get 10 full bar cuts before the battery overheats; I call it a good day.
I bought a 58v Echo battery saw years ago and love it. The one thing I quickly learned is the chains out there are still sharpened for gas saws and really don't show how great these battery saws are. I resharpened my chain with a way more aggressive tooth setting to utilizes the torque of these saws, and it rips through wood so fast with little effort
I bought a DeWalt version a few years back for the camper. It's been a game changer for us. I keep the battery topped off and every time I've used it on our property it's been reliable, quick, and 'tourqey', if that's a word. It's nothing like what you have there, but for our 10 acres it's been a delight. My wife and daughter will use it, but won't touch the gas saw. That's one selling point. It's not as intimidating, my wife and daughter say. They felt like it was light enough they could use it for quite awhile before getting tired as well. Both of them are 5' tall. I still use my Stihl 18", but honestly I reach for my DeWalt 90% of the time.
I have a LOT of ryobi tools both 18v & 40v, including weed eaters, drills, snow blower shovel, lawnmower, impact, glue gun, pond drain, circular saw, and on and on. I have the 14" and 16" electric chainsaws as well as a pole saw. They ALL work Great! I also have a Ryobi 18' gas powered chainsaw for bigger jobs, but hardly ever use it as I'm usually only cutting fallen branches and small trees. I also have the Ryobi electric log splitter and it works Great too! Love the videos!
Not impressive the saw dust with the gas saw was tiny. Dull chain or rakers set to high. Did not keep it running ful speed. The electric had bigger saw dust, obviously a new sharp chain. You don't need to stack the deck to show it is worth considering. No really big electric saws yet. Great for up to 20 inch bars.
I got a mini 6in battery saw for Christmas and I am happy to have had it about 8 weeks ago we had a big branch fall off a tree in our yard. It worked well for the small stuff. It was great.
I agree battery saws are not yet a universal replacement of gas powered saws. But for occasional use or single cuts they have another advantage. They don't have to be started and left running to warm up.
Great video. I would like to offer a cheat for you. Clean out a dish soap bottle and put your bar oil in it. I had a longer say why do that o little spillage is no big deal, at today’s oil prices every drop is valuable and if you put you saw in the back of the truck you will have less oil dripping off the saw.
Here in Suwannee Co. I have done some SERIOUS cutting of Oaks with a RYOBI ONE+ HP 18V Brushless 10 in. Battery Chainsaw....2 years ago I kept pushing one and finally burned it up, with a 3 year warranty I just got another, already have a stack of those batteries for other things so I'll keep replacing it.
I've commented several times on the battery powered tools and their advancement in battery tech over the years is something I wish they had perfected before they were introduced on the market. I loved the tools, but the batteries sucked...so I sold almost all of them last summer. Now I have switched back to mostly corded electric...can't start the gas ones after I tore up my shoulder and can't afford the new battery ones. I sawed up 5 cord of 24" black locust with my 18" corded chainsaw with ease and I love it. Loved the video and that Husq is pretty dang sweet!
It's one of those things were we have growing pains and the public has to pay for the advancement and research. The technology is only going to get better.
I like the husky battery chainsaws. I own and use one for orchard work. It’s great climbing a ladder and the saw is always ready. After a couple years of limited use, I notice that the batteries are not holding as much charge. In addition, I had to replace the charger and occasionally the electronics will act up requiring me to turn it off and on a couple times to get it working normally. If I didn’t have a need for saw while climbing, I wouldn’t recommend getting one. They are very expensive and I don’t think the saw will last long.
I still have my trusty Stihl Farm Boss with an 18" bar but about a year ago I bought a Greenworks battery powered saw that came with an Oregon 18" bar and chain. I honestly have not used the Stihl since. The Greenworks uses a 60V 4A/Hr battery and is 5 lbs lighter than the Stihl. I also have four other Greenworks items including a leaf blower, string trimmer and 10" pole saw. The fourth item is a mini-bike which is a blast to ride and quiet as a mouse. I actually bought it to get me to and from my deer stands this coming archery season precisely because it is quiet and has the bonus of no exhaust odor. And guess what. All of these pieces of equipment use a Greenworks 60V battery and they are all interchangeable.
Funny you mention the mini bike, I really want one for traveling from the woods to the house or shop quickly. It would be nice to carry it out with the excavator or tractor.
@@TKCL If you're referring to using the tractor to get your deer out I've done the same thing. As long as it's close to a road that I can drive the tractor on I just load the deer in the bucket. At least now with the mini-bike I won't have to walk back to the shop to get the tractor or possibly the ATV depending on where the deer is.
I have the 80v greenworks and I've put that thing thru it's paces. I'd say over 200 trees so far ranging from 2" to 16". Pine, oaks, sweet gum, and cedar. I'll never buy another gas powered saw for personal land owner use.
Electric equipment seems great for your average HOA homeowner and like you said quick run trail clean type work. I have been going EGO for my small lawn equipment and sad Honda choose to discontinue the gas HRX that has been great.
Nice... I've been using electric tools, including saws, for several years. In general I've been very happy with the performance. I DO agree with your choice for HD use. The Stihl saws are hard to beat. I also like the Husqvarna saws. My latest purchase was a limbing/pole saw, KOBALT 80 volt. It's hard to beat for that purpose. Anyway, your "test" was enlightening. That Husky is impressive.!!
Many thanks. Iam getting to weak to pull start my stihl farm boss I must go to battery. I can even start my echo 440. 😢 your video truly helped me. From a woman whom heats with only wood...😊
Got a stihl 170 last year and it's already paid for itself. I didn't think battery powered chain saws were yet being able to do this level of work. I think I would of had to pay a fair bit more than my stihl and taken a bit longer to pay for itself - But the convenience of not having to grab fuel/oil, more quiet, less smell, and I'm not cutting 'professionally' day in and out.....wish I saw a video like this sooner - think I would have gotten a battery one.
My wife uses a craftsmen electric weed eater around the house, but I still have my gas weed eater. Just bought a battery powered mini chainsaw, maybe it will replace my Husqvarna gas saw. Great video as always. Still getting comments about the hat I purchased, "What is TKCL" !
One thing no one talks about in these reviews is the electric motors in these chainsaws probably have a higher torque value than the gas ones do and electric motors make the torque immediately. usually the max torque is available at 0 rpm. I don't use my chainsaw too often and I am getting tired of trying to keep my Husqvarna 440 running. I think I am going to invest in a battery one...
I wonder if with Huskvarn happen the same has with Stihl. In my case with Stihl and I have the 161T, MSA220C and MSA300. Some of those I have themes for over 3 years so far never have any problem, the saws are excellent, just in the case of the MSA300 in particular it feels like having a Mustang GT with gas tank in the reserve, battery technology still light years away for this saw to be used professional, even the top battery last very short time in a charge, for a day work out in the forest I with need a truck load of batteries.
I recently purchased the Echo brand 18” chainsaw with free blower. Unbelievable price. However, I don’t think it has quite the amount of power that you are showing with the husqvarna. Though like you are saying, I just bought it for limbing/ clean up which it excels at!
One advantage to battery tools and I do this with mine is I charge them via solar so it costs me nothing to recharge so it's a great advantage when fuel is scarce like after a hurricane
I almost bought one of these a few weeks ago then I saw that the run time on a battery was .65 hour with a 4.08-hour recharge time. To be able to run continuously I'd need about 8 batteries and 7 chargers. Extra batteries cost $319 each and chargers are $179. Total cost for the saw and extra batteries and chargers is $3965.00 plus I'd have to have some power source to charge in the field. Also, these lithium-ion batteries don't last forever so plan on replacing them and they can't be charged when temperatures are below freezing. I guess it's OK if you only saw a half hour a day but to do serious work gas wins hands down.
It is actually cheaper to buy 8 saws with batteries and chargers. My pricing is from Lowe's. I price checked Amazon it's about 500 cheaper for the full kit and also cheaper to buy 8 saws.
This is not for all day cutting. They also had deals running where you got a free extra battery. My recharge time is way quicker than you mentioned, it came with a nice speed charger.
@@TKCL I made my comment early in the video and then you covered all of that. If I could get the charge time down to close to an hour and find a deal with an extra battery I might bite.
I’m a huge fan of Electric for stuff like this. If I’m out cutting down a bunch of trees come of course I’m gonna take my gas saw but you throw this on the back of the ATV and go clear some trails. Do some cleanup, especially if you don’t have a huge wooded property and just a few trees, Electric is so easy. I got a Milwaukee quick attach set with a pole saw on it a little I believe 8 inch electric and I haven’t even touched my gas saw. I’ve been meaning to kind of pull it apart and recondition it because it’s been sitting for three years with gas in it so I’m sure it’s not in great shape, but every time I need one I just grab the electric and it works fine. I’ve taken out two stumps with it and trimmed about 13 trees and done a couple cleanups after storms. That’s just a little 8 inch, but for grabbing something quick and going through the woods, if you’re out riding on trails that aren’t on your property and there’s a branch or something down on the road. This is so much easier than gas and oil and all of that with you. You still need bar/chain oil but these are just so much easier it’s ridiculous. I’ve looked at a lot of saws and the two flaws I see in the electric saws are that some of the cheaper ones have skinny little chains so that’s cute but they’re gonna break and wear out quickly and some of them have some cheap plastic drive gears that just don’t look like they’re gonna last very long But the Milwaukee and of course the stihl great but they’re ridiculously expensive. But with battery technology, these have gotten really good over the last few years, I’ve already got Milwaukee platform and I don’t like the Ryobi so eventually I’m gonna get Milwaukee with longer but the nice thing about the Milwaukee as they all use, a pretty thick chain and a lot of their saws use the same size chain so the right models they could all be using the same chain as well. But check the thickness of the chains and check the drive gears other than that most of the models I seen out there are doing really well side-by-side tests and abuse tests and they just come along way
@@TKCL yeah some of them are really cheap. I usually like the Ryobi stuff, definitely not Dewalt or Milwaukee but usually it’s pretty good for standard stuff but their saws have a little skinny chains and it’s just not worth it. Almost all the Milwaukee chains are the same. They’re just different lengths. The Dewalt seems to be liked by most people that have it as well and you’ve already got that battery platform. I would go with either of those. The Makita is really nice also but has a Makita price tag but a lot of the cheaper stuff like The heart and semi generic brands just aren’t really up to it. I usually buy the Ryobi for basic tools, but if I need something that’s gonna be tough or something that has a potential to break a lot just as a tool then I’ll spend the money for the Milwaukee stuff. I like the Dewalt stuff too, I just have the Milwaukee platform already. Chainsaws and impact wrenches are tools that just have a potential to break easy because they take a beating so I think it’s worth it to spend a little more there. Drills as well I keep going through cheaper drills. I’ve worn out a couple craftsman and black and Deckers, and they’re good for small home use but when you start doing a lot of projects with them, they kind of burn out quickly. I love the Milwaukee quick attach stuff. I’ve got the brush cutter and the hedge trimmer the pole saw and the weedeater. I want to get the little rubber broom thing that sweeps rocks out of the grass from gravel driveways. But with battery technology now and the brushless motors things have plenty of power now, I’ll probably never go back to a gas powered weedeater and honestly for what I do I probably would never need a gas powered saw again, but I’m still not getting rid of my Stihl. 😂
I would have let the gas saw run for a few minutes to warm up it does help it run better use to be a a tree crew and boss man one rule was let them run and warn up . Great video as always God bless y’all
I didn’t like pull starting the gas saws. No running to get more fuel or mix oil. The battery powered saws just work! I have the 12” and 16” DeWalt 20v and 60v respectively. No regrets!
@@TKCL I’m brand loyal, I have many DeWalt batteries ,so that’s a no brainer. Stihl and Husqvarna are solid brands and that battery powered saw you ran is typical of the non gas saws, lots of torque. You are right that they won’t replace gas saws yet.
The problem I see with electric tools that could replace gas tools is longevity. You can rebuild a pro saw and keep it in service a LONG time. With battery tools you are tied to the battery supply. Once the batteries die you are hoping the manufacture has continued to offer compatible batteries. The problem is as you mention battery tech is rapidly changing and it benefits manufactures to have a planned obsolescence for the tools to encourage new purchases.
We can take that point and check it out now. My 20 year old Dewalt tools have been discontinued a long time, yet I can still get batteries for them. There's always companies looking for an opportunity. The key is to buy a popular brand and you'll probably wear the tool out long before the batteries never exist.
I switched to all electric for yard work tools, weed eater, blower, pole saw, mini chainsaw, even my snow blower! Lol My next change is going to be my lawn mower once my gas one kicks the bucket.
@@TKCL Agree, and most of these batteries have standard size cells inside. So as battery tech gets better, the packs can be rebuilt with new tech cells and make your old battery better then new again. A handy person can even buy the raw cells and a few special tools and rebuild them at home.
There are some.batteries where this is an issue but most have generics which means you can get alternatives or repair them yourself. Taking apart and replacing cells in a lithium battery is a different skill set but I don't think it's hardee
Hey Andrew think this is what its going to be in the future. I used to work in a mower shop in high school about 8 years go I stopped in the shop to get a coil for my rider and my old boss told me back then they were doing R&d on the battery stuff back then. I heard 2 company already quit making gas powered equipment. because it cost to much to fix the cheaper stuff. well you take a $150 saw or mower into a shop that charges $100 or more a hour
I have had a 10in plug in chain saw/pole saw from Works company and its truly crazy the amount of torque an electric saw has to the point Its almost scarry.
Battery power is great for small projects. It rapidly becomes impractical for larger projects. That's okay, I'm not up for larger projects either, and the convenience of electric cannot be beat.
i have a cheap hf corded saw that i use around the home and farm , i have a generator always in a trailer so it works ok It doesnt have the power of my stil .o28 but i dont have to mess with gas and oil additive and if i take my time it gets the job done most times { i have a couple of limbs out at the drive way that i need to cut to see better . OOH guess i better get it out next week:} )
It's that time of the year for Lowes to start dropping prices on stuff so keep an eye out. I wouldn't doubt their Halloween stuff is out by now. This is the time of year I miss working for Lowes the most.
I cut all my wood at home, so the high price of a battery saw isn't a practical. I have a a corded electric saw the only has to be plugged in and being just outside my shop, I only need a short cord. I don't think I'll need to ever replace my saw because it doesn't look like I will wear it out any time soon.
Electric is fine for small jobs which is all most people need. Avoids the problems of storing gas, rotting fuel lines maintenance etc. I only have a regular residential property and use an electric weed eater and an electric pressure washer for these reasons.
what people dont understand about the whole battery power movement is! its more intended for the hone user and elderly! yeah your not gonna go logging with these but you can use them for light duty! Electric is way easier to start! no haveing to yank a pull start! but like all equipment you still have the dangers! the worst danger is haveing to listen to chris about wheres the chaps! the village people stole them!😊
Gas Chainsaw very poor quality, I send my STIHL for maintenance and I picked up today and still haven’t able to use is flooded of gas. This video make me want that one Husqvarna and don’t worry about anymore with the mess of gas chainsaw.
Today the argument is mostly about longevity. Electricity can meet or exceed gas in all but longevity. You can pack a lot more duration into the gas tank than you can in a battery. So a gas engine can run lean to match electric for longer runtimes or burn more fuel to power through things. And to that point eoth higher voltages and optimization even the power can be matched byt they usually design around longevity. For me mowing is a good example. When my gas mower is cutting smoothly through the thick grass thet kills my electric mower faster, the engine sounds fine vut clearly runs hotter and thus is burning more fuel. Because gas is more forgiving if you are working it harder than tou should.
You cant beat torque with an electric motor, any speed full torque, not so much with a two stroke. Because of that you can actually have less horsepower in the electric motor and still cut through the wood faster, the only downside is I would need about 4 batteries to fill up my pickup truck maybe one can fully charge up by the time Im on my 4th or third. Been fucking with my gas stihl chainsaw all day now and it bogs down to a stop with very light pressure, Im sure it can be fixed with money but this is getting old when you can have something that really doesnt need much maintenance at all. Got an old electric lawn mower and besides all the damn plastic that gets brittle in the sun over the years the damn thing works all the time even after its been outside under 10 feet of snow all winter. I think im going to get one of these and just eat it on the batteries, I could sell two cords and make back my money.
Just bought my second 350i. 1st one was on sale in May for $399, 2nd one $479, but with a spare battery for free deal! I’ve owned the Greenworks line of battery equipment for about 4 years, but I’m switching over to Husky as I’ve found Husky’s quality much better. Battery cooling is very important with these battery saws and Husky’s cooling is superior. I’ve had problems with Greenworks sending me old batteries too. Husky batteries date of manufacture is displayed prominently on their case and the ones I’ve received haven’t been on the shelf very long.
No chainsaw pants. Just know, that with electric saws they don't jam stop with chainsaw pants. They are more dangerous to use than gas saws. They just zip through the pants and take your leg with it. So be darn carefull when using electric chainsaws. Even the small ones have so much torque they rip thru safety pants.
you are comparing a 200 dollar gas chainsaw with a 500$ electric chainsaw. That is unfair you should bring the 20 inch 50.2 cc stihl and see which one wins.
You're confused! I paid $379 for the Husqvarna WITH an extra $200 battery. I also have a 4 gas Stihl saws, one costing $500 and one over $700. Trust me or not, this electric saw beats the $500 and compares with the $700+ saw. I'm also a huge gas and Stihl fan.
@@TKCL IDK, when searching on amazon the electric one similar to the one you have costs 480$ with only 1 battery. And a 30 cc gas stihl costs 200$. Unless you put a smaller bar on the 50cc Stihl IDK.
@ahmadbataineh6329 Amazon is not the only place to sell these. For example directly from HUSQVARNA or Safford equipment was recently running an excellent sale. They might still be. Amazon is not always the cheapest, but is definitely the most convenient place to order.
You’re comparing a 1.7 hp gas saw to an electric saw that should be compared to a 3 1/2 hp gas saw such as a MS 271 this is not a true comparison and a really a joke of course the battery saw will win it’s a Tesla with a bar and chain. A $500 electric to a $200 gas saw why even make the video.
Pretty cool video, been watching videos on the Husqvarna saws for awhile now. The beefier 540i is even better than this one! Small tip for ya: It's pronounced whosk-varna.
But that saw is almost double the cost, especially when you factor in I got two batteries with mine. If I need that much power/expense, I'm pulling out my big gas saw.
It has to be serviced by a dealer. The cons out way the pros especially with Husqvarna. For example parts on back order, poor equipment diagnostic knowledge by service techs, parts and labor cost. Nothing wrong with electric chainsaws in general. The problems are with the industry not the concept of electric chainsaws.
Watch Husqvarna Service Hub-Dealer Diagnostic Tool by the greasy shop rag channel. Proprietary software and diagnostic equipment is needed. There is no training available as of now.And you'll pay $125/hr for labor.
I no longer have a need for my old gas saws, just back yard cleanup now. Love the electric , low noise , no exhaust fumes , Plenty of power , ready to go when I need it and no pulling on the rope with bad shoulders. Clear winner for me at this stage of my life.
That's exactly right, some people can't see those needs, I do.
I like my electric chain saws. Best part is you don't need to drain the fuel tank at the end of the day if you don't plan to use it for a long time.
99% of the woodworking can be done with an electric, unless you have to go in the middle of the woods for 8hs and destroy some 500y/o forest, there's no need to use gas.
Usually you'll just have a big chunk of wood and an outlet nearby to use it.
I do not like battery saws, who owns the battery?
@@mr2octavio Well not exactly like that, 3 days ago I went help a friend logging wood for the fireplace from a pile, I take my 2 battery saws Stihl MSA300 and MSA220C, 4 AP300S and 4 AP500S batteries fully charged along with 2 chargers AL500, to make a long story short I run out of batteries. We where by the house with chargers plugged in from the start, cutting continuous on oak logs not only the batteries got discharged fast also got hot and not charge back before the cool of.
The saws are fine, excellent, battery technology still light years away for professional use.
I agree. I have around a dozen battery operated chainsaws. Power is not a problem. It's the batteries overheating that is a very big problem in my largest saws.
The biggest one has no difficulty running a 24" bar, but if I get 10 full bar cuts before the battery overheats; I call it a good day.
Hmmm... think I need to see you compare them making ice sculptures. Great video. Thanks
Lol that'll never happen here. Appreciate you!
@@TKCL I dunno.... might have to poll the livestream family on that 😇
@@TKCL just chop some ice it would be like trees but colder . its all art. enjoy the weekend and keep them coming
I have seen some other guys saying pretty much the same as you when comparing. I’m impressed. Technology is improving. Thanks for doing this.
Thanks for watching!
Hi Andrew, I think for most home owners and just for yard clean up the electric chain saw dose the trick. Good video!! 👍👍❤️❤️🇨🇦
I believe you are correct
Great side by side comparison. I've been using a tiny hand held battery Chinese chainsaw...it works beautifully.
Right on, use what suits you.
I bought a 58v Echo battery saw years ago and love it. The one thing I quickly learned is the chains out there are still sharpened for gas saws and really don't show how great these battery saws are. I resharpened my chain with a way more aggressive tooth setting to utilizes the torque of these saws, and it rips through wood so fast with little effort
Never even thought about resharpening chains for the new torque, thanks!!
I bought a DeWalt version a few years back for the camper. It's been a game changer for us. I keep the battery topped off and every time I've used it on our property it's been reliable, quick, and 'tourqey', if that's a word. It's nothing like what you have there, but for our 10 acres it's been a delight. My wife and daughter will use it, but won't touch the gas saw. That's one selling point. It's not as intimidating, my wife and daughter say. They felt like it was light enough they could use it for quite awhile before getting tired as well. Both of them are 5' tall. I still use my Stihl 18", but honestly I reach for my DeWalt 90% of the time.
I seriously considered buying that model. I agree with your points.
I have a LOT of ryobi tools both 18v & 40v, including weed eaters, drills, snow blower shovel, lawnmower, impact, glue gun, pond drain, circular saw, and on and on. I have the 14" and 16" electric chainsaws as well as a pole saw. They ALL work Great! I also have a Ryobi 18' gas powered chainsaw for bigger jobs, but hardly ever use it as I'm usually only cutting fallen branches and small trees. I also have the Ryobi electric log splitter and it works Great too! Love the videos!
Wow that was impressive i don't like battery power stuff but from this video i can see they have their place
They do, technology is getting better and better.
Not impressive the saw dust with the gas saw was tiny. Dull chain or rakers set to high. Did not keep it running ful speed. The electric had bigger saw dust, obviously a new sharp chain. You don't need to stack the deck to show it is worth considering. No really big electric saws yet. Great for up to 20 inch bars.
I got a mini 6in battery saw for Christmas and I am happy to have had it about 8 weeks ago we had a big branch fall off a tree in our yard. It worked well for the small stuff. It was great.
I have a mini one myself, it's awesome.
Andrew, you made me happy right at the beginning. It’s always fun when you’re at the Chop Shop. Excellent video. See you at 7:00.
Thank you for watching
Ordered one of these a couple days ago on a whim. Seems like I made a good choice
Love mine
I have a DeWalt 16" electric saw and it's a beast for small to medium jobs.
I agree battery saws are not yet a universal replacement of gas powered saws. But for occasional use or single cuts they have another advantage. They don't have to be started and left running to warm up.
Or have to haul gas and don't have the storage issues of a gas saw. They are not perfect, but do have some advantages.
Wow !!! I never would’ve dreamed that would be that powerful!!! Great video Brother!!!!
No kidding! I was shocked!
Right there with you. The battery have their place. Nice comparison and information
Thank you for watching
Great video. I would like to offer a cheat for you. Clean out a dish soap bottle and put your bar oil in it. I had a longer say why do that o little spillage is no big deal, at today’s oil prices every drop is valuable and if you put you saw in the back of the truck you will have less oil dripping off the saw.
Here in Suwannee Co. I have done some SERIOUS cutting of Oaks with a RYOBI ONE+ HP 18V Brushless 10 in. Battery Chainsaw....2 years ago I kept pushing one and finally burned it up, with a 3 year warranty I just got another, already have a stack of those batteries for other things so I'll keep replacing it.
I'm loving it. Great for clean up.
Sure is
I've commented several times on the battery powered tools and their advancement in battery tech over the years is something I wish they had perfected before they were introduced on the market. I loved the tools, but the batteries sucked...so I sold almost all of them last summer. Now I have switched back to mostly corded electric...can't start the gas ones after I tore up my shoulder and can't afford the new battery ones. I sawed up 5 cord of 24" black locust with my 18" corded chainsaw with ease and I love it. Loved the video and that Husq is pretty dang sweet!
It's one of those things were we have growing pains and the public has to pay for the advancement and research. The technology is only going to get better.
@@TylerM-j1i great to hear! I like the fan cooled speed charger as well. It's fast!
I like the husky battery chainsaws. I own and use one for orchard work. It’s great climbing a ladder and the saw is always ready. After a couple years of limited use, I notice that the batteries are not holding as much charge. In addition, I had to replace the charger and occasionally the electronics will act up requiring me to turn it off and on a couple times to get it working normally. If I didn’t have a need for saw while climbing, I wouldn’t recommend getting one. They are very expensive and I don’t think the saw will last long.
Bummer, hate hearing about the issues. Mine has been a solid unit.
You have the time and knowledge to research these things, and that Saw has its place and it's it's a strong saw
I also have a desire to own too many tools and equipment 🤣
@@TKCL You think
@@TKCL you are definitely one of us🚜
I still have my trusty Stihl Farm Boss with an 18" bar but about a year ago I bought a Greenworks battery powered saw that came with an Oregon 18" bar and chain. I honestly have not used the Stihl since. The Greenworks uses a 60V 4A/Hr battery and is 5 lbs lighter than the Stihl. I also have four other Greenworks items including a leaf blower, string trimmer and 10" pole saw. The fourth item is a mini-bike which is a blast to ride and quiet as a mouse. I actually bought it to get me to and from my deer stands this coming archery season precisely because it is quiet and has the bonus of no exhaust odor. And guess what. All of these pieces of equipment use a Greenworks 60V battery and they are all interchangeable.
Funny you mention the mini bike, I really want one for traveling from the woods to the house or shop quickly. It would be nice to carry it out with the excavator or tractor.
@@TKCL If you're referring to using the tractor to get your deer out I've done the same thing. As long as it's close to a road that I can drive the tractor on I just load the deer in the bucket. At least now with the mini-bike I won't have to walk back to the shop to get the tractor or possibly the ATV depending on where the deer is.
I have the 80v greenworks and I've put that thing thru it's paces. I'd say over 200 trees so far ranging from 2" to 16". Pine, oaks, sweet gum, and cedar. I'll never buy another gas powered saw for personal land owner use.
Electric equipment seems great for your average HOA homeowner and like you said quick run trail clean type work. I have been going EGO for my small lawn equipment and sad Honda choose to discontinue the gas HRX that has been great.
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I've been using electric tools, including saws, for several years. In general I've been very happy with the performance. I DO agree with your choice for HD use. The Stihl saws are hard to beat. I also like the Husqvarna saws. My latest purchase was a limbing/pole saw, KOBALT 80 volt. It's hard to beat for that purpose.
Anyway, your "test" was enlightening. That Husky is impressive.!!
It is impressive. I'm also looking at the pole saw.
Ok time difference between ECO and MAX mode? Nice job my friend 👏
Many thanks. Iam getting to weak to pull start my stihl farm boss I must go to battery. I can even start my echo 440. 😢 your video truly helped me. From a woman whom heats with only wood...😊
Glad you enjoyed it
Got a stihl 170 last year and it's already paid for itself.
I didn't think battery powered chain saws were yet being able to do this level of work.
I think I would of had to pay a fair bit more than my stihl and taken a bit longer to pay for itself - But the convenience of not having to grab fuel/oil, more quiet, less smell, and I'm not cutting 'professionally' day in and out.....wish I saw a video like this sooner - think I would have gotten a battery one.
That 170 is hard to beat for the price, got mine on sale for $179.
My wife uses a craftsmen electric weed eater around the house, but I still have my gas weed eater. Just bought a battery powered mini chainsaw, maybe it will replace my Husqvarna gas saw. Great video as always. Still getting comments about the hat I purchased, "What is TKCL" !
Nice! We appreciate you.
One thing no one talks about in these reviews is the electric motors in these chainsaws probably have a higher torque value than the gas ones do and electric motors make the torque immediately. usually the max torque is available at 0 rpm. I don't use my chainsaw too often and I am getting tired of trying to keep my Husqvarna 440 running. I think I am going to invest in a battery one...
Hey. Get you a Bark Box for your big saw. Huge difference . WCS makes them. (West coast saws)
I run a Bark Box on my big saw and a set of WCS dogs.
@@TKCL awesome products!!! 💪
I wonder if with Huskvarn happen the same has with Stihl. In my case with Stihl and I have the 161T, MSA220C and MSA300. Some of those I have themes for over 3 years so far never have any problem, the saws are excellent, just in the case of the MSA300 in particular it feels like having a Mustang GT with gas tank in the reserve, battery technology still light years away for this saw to be used professional, even the top battery last very short time in a charge, for a day work out in the forest I with need a truck load of batteries.
I agree on battery technology, but no doubt it's getting much better. It just takes time.
I recently purchased the Echo brand 18” chainsaw with free blower. Unbelievable price. However, I don’t think it has quite the amount of power that you are showing with the husqvarna. Though like you are saying, I just bought it for limbing/ clean up which it excels at!
I think Echo makes a great product.
One advantage to battery tools and I do this with mine is I charge them via solar so it costs me nothing to recharge so it's a great advantage when fuel is scarce like after a hurricane
I also charge mine via solar
I almost bought one of these a few weeks ago then I saw that the run time on a battery was .65 hour with a 4.08-hour recharge time. To be able to run continuously I'd need about 8 batteries and 7 chargers. Extra batteries cost $319 each and chargers are $179. Total cost for the saw and extra batteries and chargers is $3965.00 plus I'd have to have some power source to charge in the field. Also, these lithium-ion batteries don't last forever so plan on replacing them and they can't be charged when temperatures are below freezing. I guess it's OK if you only saw a half hour a day but to do serious work gas wins hands down.
It is actually cheaper to buy 8 saws with batteries and chargers. My pricing is from Lowe's. I price checked Amazon it's about 500 cheaper for the full kit and also cheaper to buy 8 saws.
This is not for all day cutting. They also had deals running where you got a free extra battery. My recharge time is way quicker than you mentioned, it came with a nice speed charger.
@@TKCL I made my comment early in the video and then you covered all of that. If I could get the charge time down to close to an hour and find a deal with an extra battery I might bite.
Where are your chaps? Another tool for your Big Boy toy box. So interesting, my husband came in to watch the video.
What did he think about it? Too hot for chaps 😬
I’m a huge fan of Electric for stuff like this. If I’m out cutting down a bunch of trees come of course I’m gonna take my gas saw but you throw this on the back of the ATV and go clear some trails. Do some cleanup, especially if you don’t have a huge wooded property and just a few trees, Electric is so easy. I got a Milwaukee quick attach set with a pole saw on it a little I believe 8 inch electric and I haven’t even touched my gas saw. I’ve been meaning to kind of pull it apart and recondition it because it’s been sitting for three years with gas in it so I’m sure it’s not in great shape, but every time I need one I just grab the electric and it works fine. I’ve taken out two stumps with it and trimmed about 13 trees and done a couple cleanups after storms. That’s just a little 8 inch, but for grabbing something quick and going through the woods, if you’re out riding on trails that aren’t on your property and there’s a branch or something down on the road. This is so much easier than gas and oil and all of that with you. You still need bar/chain oil but these are just so much easier it’s ridiculous.
I’ve looked at a lot of saws and the two flaws I see in the electric saws are that some of the cheaper ones have skinny little chains so that’s cute but they’re gonna break and wear out quickly and some of them have some cheap plastic drive gears that just don’t look like they’re gonna last very long But the Milwaukee and of course the stihl great but they’re ridiculously expensive. But with battery technology, these have gotten really good over the last few years, I’ve already got Milwaukee platform and I don’t like the Ryobi so eventually I’m gonna get Milwaukee with longer but the nice thing about the Milwaukee as they all use, a pretty thick chain and a lot of their saws use the same size chain so the right models they could all be using the same chain as well. But check the thickness of the chains and check the drive gears other than that most of the models I seen out there are doing really well side-by-side tests and abuse tests and they just come along way
That Milwaukee setup is nice, I like all their cutting tools and attachments. Can't believe some offer plastic drive sprockets and gears.
@@TKCL yeah some of them are really cheap. I usually like the Ryobi stuff, definitely not Dewalt or Milwaukee but usually it’s pretty good for standard stuff but their saws have a little skinny chains and it’s just not worth it. Almost all the Milwaukee chains are the same. They’re just different lengths. The Dewalt seems to be liked by most people that have it as well and you’ve already got that battery platform. I would go with either of those. The Makita is really nice also but has a Makita price tag but a lot of the cheaper stuff like The heart and semi generic brands just aren’t really up to it. I usually buy the Ryobi for basic tools, but if I need something that’s gonna be tough or something that has a potential to break a lot just as a tool then I’ll spend the money for the Milwaukee stuff. I like the Dewalt stuff too, I just have the Milwaukee platform already. Chainsaws and impact wrenches are tools that just have a potential to break easy because they take a beating so I think it’s worth it to spend a little more there. Drills as well I keep going through cheaper drills. I’ve worn out a couple craftsman and black and Deckers, and they’re good for small home use but when you start doing a lot of projects with them, they kind of burn out quickly. I love the Milwaukee quick attach stuff. I’ve got the brush cutter and the hedge trimmer the pole saw and the weedeater. I want to get the little rubber broom thing that sweeps rocks out of the grass from gravel driveways. But with battery technology now and the brushless motors things have plenty of power now, I’ll probably never go back to a gas powered weedeater and honestly for what I do I probably would never need a gas powered saw again, but I’m still not getting rid of my Stihl. 😂
I have a DeWalt 18” electric. Dig it. I’ll never buy another gas one.
I would have let the gas saw run for a few minutes to warm up it does help it run better use to be a a tree crew and boss man one rule was let them run and warn up . Great video as always God bless y’all
I always let my saws warm up off camera. I've never believed in revving up a cold engine of any kind.
I didn’t like pull starting the gas saws. No running to get more fuel or mix oil. The battery powered saws just work! I have the 12” and 16” DeWalt 20v and 60v respectively. No regrets!
I was seriously considering the Dewalt.
@@TKCL I’m brand loyal, I have many DeWalt batteries ,so that’s a no brainer. Stihl and Husqvarna are solid brands and that battery powered saw you ran is typical of the non gas saws, lots of torque. You are right that they won’t replace gas saws yet.
The problem I see with electric tools that could replace gas tools is longevity. You can rebuild a pro saw and keep it in service a LONG time. With battery tools you are tied to the battery supply. Once the batteries die you are hoping the manufacture has continued to offer compatible batteries. The problem is as you mention battery tech is rapidly changing and it benefits manufactures to have a planned obsolescence for the tools to encourage new purchases.
We can take that point and check it out now. My 20 year old Dewalt tools have been discontinued a long time, yet I can still get batteries for them. There's always companies looking for an opportunity. The key is to buy a popular brand and you'll probably wear the tool out long before the batteries never exist.
I switched to all electric for yard work tools, weed eater, blower, pole saw, mini chainsaw, even my snow blower! Lol My next change is going to be my lawn mower once my gas one kicks the bucket.
@@TKCL Agree, and most of these batteries have standard size cells inside. So as battery tech gets better, the packs can be rebuilt with new tech cells and make your old battery better then new again. A handy person can even buy the raw cells and a few special tools and rebuild them at home.
There are some.batteries where this is an issue but most have generics which means you can get alternatives or repair them yourself. Taking apart and replacing cells in a lithium battery is a different skill set but I don't think it's hardee
I use a ryobi battery saw its fine for what i need.
Hey Andrew think this is what its going to be in the future. I used to work in a mower shop in high school about 8 years go I stopped in the shop to get a coil for my rider and my old boss told me back then they were doing R&d on the battery stuff back then. I heard 2 company already quit making gas powered equipment. because it cost to much to fix the cheaper stuff. well you take a $150 saw or mower into a shop that charges $100 or more a hour
We have a long way to go, but the technology is getting much better.
I have had a 10in plug in chain saw/pole saw from Works company and its truly crazy the amount of torque an electric saw has to the point Its almost scarry.
I think the chains are different too: Stihl uses a thicker chain.
True
Battery power is great for small projects. It rapidly becomes impractical for larger projects. That's okay, I'm not up for larger projects either, and the convenience of electric cannot be beat.
I agree
At 74 I don't have to pull pull. I can start the Stihl but tired. This is better
i have a cheap hf corded saw that i use around the home and farm , i have a generator always in a trailer so it works ok It doesnt have the power of my stil .o28 but i dont have to mess with gas and oil additive and if i take my time it gets the job done most times { i have a couple of limbs out at the drive way that i need to cut to see better . OOH guess i better get it out next week:} )
Okay… I’m impressed…
I was too
It's that time of the year for Lowes to start dropping prices on stuff so keep an eye out. I wouldn't doubt their Halloween stuff is out by now. This is the time of year I miss working for Lowes the most.
Great point, I'm going to look for discounted grills.
@@TKCL Sorry, did you say "discounted grills"? Hopefully to give as gifts, since you're building your own now haha 🤣
Well I'll be.... 🤔 Definitely a torque monster
It was surprising!
I cut all my wood at home, so the high price of a battery saw isn't a practical. I have a a corded electric saw the only has to be plugged in and being just outside my shop, I only need a short cord. I don't think I'll need to ever replace my saw because it doesn't look like I will wear it out any time soon.
Electric is fine for small jobs which is all most people need. Avoids the problems of storing gas, rotting fuel lines maintenance etc. I only have a regular residential property and use an electric weed eater and an electric pressure washer for these reasons.
Exactly
I’m not shocked at the cutting speed, heck, look at the 0-60 time on that high end Tesla sedan
True, electric motors are known for crazy instant torque.
More toys:))
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STHIL electric chainsaw review next.
Those are awesome.... But very expensive 😬
@TKCL you aint lying!!
what people dont understand about the whole battery power movement is! its more intended for the hone user and elderly! yeah your not gonna go logging with these but you can use them for light duty! Electric is way easier to start! no haveing to yank a pull start! but like all equipment you still have the dangers! the worst danger is haveing to listen to chris about wheres the chaps! the village people stole them!😊
Lol agreed on all points.... Including Chris!
@@TKCL oh i know you would lol even with the one on chris! lol! 90 some degreez out at almost 100% humidity! yeah i wouldnt wear them either!
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Chaps
What are those?
@@TKCL😄😂🤣
@@TKCLsomething the village people wear lol!
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Gas Chainsaw very poor quality, I send my STIHL for maintenance and I picked up today and still haven’t able to use is flooded of gas. This video make me want that one Husqvarna and don’t worry about anymore with the mess of gas chainsaw.
Today the argument is mostly about longevity. Electricity can meet or exceed gas in all but longevity. You can pack a lot more duration into the gas tank than you can in a battery. So a gas engine can run lean to match electric for longer runtimes or burn more fuel to power through things. And to that point eoth higher voltages and optimization even the power can be matched byt they usually design around longevity. For me mowing is a good example. When my gas mower is cutting smoothly through the thick grass thet kills my electric mower faster, the engine sounds fine vut clearly runs hotter and thus is burning more fuel. Because gas is more forgiving if you are working it harder than tou should.
Absolutely, high production work, gas all the way. Low productivity or occasional use, battery for the non storage issues gas usually has.
You cant beat torque with an electric motor, any speed full torque, not so much with a two stroke. Because of that you can actually have less horsepower in the electric motor and still cut through the wood faster, the only downside is I would need about 4 batteries to fill up my pickup truck maybe one can fully charge up by the time Im on my 4th or third.
Been fucking with my gas stihl chainsaw all day now and it bogs down to a stop with very light pressure, Im sure it can be fixed with money but this is getting old when you can have something that really doesnt need much maintenance at all.
Got an old electric lawn mower and besides all the damn plastic that gets brittle in the sun over the years the damn thing works all the time even after its been outside under 10 feet of snow all winter. I think im going to get one of these and just eat it on the batteries, I could sell two cords and make back my money.
Is the electrical gonna take the place of your 462?
Lol absolutely not! Nothing I'll buy will come close to that saw, it's a ripper!
Try and compare your new saw to a 261 lol
I have a 260 pro that I will compare. My dad has a 261. My gut says it'll be faster, but not by much.
@@TKCL it would be interesting if you did a comparison video between all 3 of them
Just bought my second 350i. 1st one was on sale in May for $399, 2nd one $479, but with a spare battery for free deal!
I’ve owned the Greenworks line of battery equipment for about 4 years, but I’m switching over to Husky as I’ve found Husky’s quality much better. Battery cooling is very important with these battery saws and Husky’s cooling is superior.
I’ve had problems with Greenworks sending me old batteries too. Husky batteries date of manufacture is displayed prominently on their case and the ones I’ve received haven’t been on the shelf very long.
I think they make great electric tools.
No chainsaw pants. Just know, that with electric saws they don't jam stop with chainsaw pants. They are more dangerous to use than gas saws. They just zip through the pants and take your leg with it. So be darn carefull when using electric chainsaws. Even the small ones have so much torque they rip thru safety pants.
They still will jam once the pants shreds get into the sprocket, but they do seem to have more torque.
Husqvarna chainsaws beat sthil anyday
I definitely disagree when it comes to gas saws. They both do make good products.
Did Tiffany allow you to purchase this item?? Remember she blamed you on something I sent, LOL
Yes, she got some things on Prime day herself 😉
Gas powered Husqvarna > Stihl gas powered
That one is easy! Stihl all day long 😉
@@TKCLhydrolic john deer!🤫
Test the electric against the big boy gas and lets see the results...Tesla's are fast
Big saw will kill it. But at 3 times the cost, it better lol.
@@TKCL you were doing 7+ seconds..Try it I think it might impress
you are comparing a 200 dollar gas chainsaw with a 500$ electric chainsaw. That is unfair you should bring the 20 inch 50.2 cc stihl and see which one wins.
You're confused! I paid $379 for the Husqvarna WITH an extra $200 battery. I also have a 4 gas Stihl saws, one costing $500 and one over $700. Trust me or not, this electric saw beats the $500 and compares with the $700+ saw. I'm also a huge gas and Stihl fan.
@@TKCL IDK, when searching on amazon the electric one similar to the one you have costs 480$ with only 1 battery. And a 30 cc gas stihl costs 200$. Unless you put a smaller bar on the 50cc Stihl IDK.
@ahmadbataineh6329 Amazon is not the only place to sell these. For example directly from HUSQVARNA or Safford equipment was recently running an excellent sale. They might still be. Amazon is not always the cheapest, but is definitely the most convenient place to order.
🤔🤔🤔🤔. Well I'm not going to say anything bad but nope not for me 🤷🏽♂️. I'm not getting rid of my gas saws...
Lol I'm not either.
You’re comparing a 1.7 hp gas saw to an electric saw that should be compared to a 3 1/2 hp gas saw such as a MS 271 this is not a true comparison and a really a joke of course the battery saw will win it’s a Tesla with a bar and chain.
A $500 electric to a $200 gas saw why even make the video.
Pretty cool video, been watching videos on the Husqvarna saws for awhile now. The beefier 540i is even better than this one! Small tip for ya: It's pronounced whosk-varna.
But that saw is almost double the cost, especially when you factor in I got two batteries with mine. If I need that much power/expense, I'm pulling out my big gas saw.
It has to be serviced by a dealer. The cons out way the pros especially with Husqvarna. For example parts on back order, poor equipment diagnostic knowledge by service techs, parts and labor cost. Nothing wrong with electric chainsaws in general. The problems are with the industry not the concept of electric chainsaws.
Things should improve with time. All the reviews I read were quite positive.
Watch Husqvarna Service Hub-Dealer Diagnostic Tool by the greasy shop rag channel. Proprietary software and diagnostic equipment is needed. There is no training available as of now.And you'll pay $125/hr for labor.
That saw will come in handy for you. 🫠