A worthwhile 26 minutes. Thanks for your effort in this. I paid the premium 3 years ago and bought a small Stihl to replace a small Husky that seized and have no regrets. I also bought the smallest Stihl leaf blower, based on my satisfaction with the saw. It’s a champ, too.
I bought an Ego saw four years ago because Home Depot said I could return it after 90 days if I didn’t like it. Still running strong after four years of pounding on it. I’m a trail, crew leader and used it to clear miles of trail plus home use. Tons of cutting trees, brush, cutting stumps in the dirt, etc. Put it under a tarp at the work location and hauled batteries out of charging. I absolutely pounded on the thing. My initial concerns about the amount of plastic was unfounded. I’m a big believer. Bought the newest one as well (the 18” with 11,000 rpm chain speed). I’ve got the full range of gas Stihl saws as well from MS180 to 660 Magnum. I reach for the electric over the gas anywhere I can get away with it. The lack of noise, 2-stroke exhaust, and pull starting is rad. Since I work in the mountains between 6000-9000+ feet elevation, my electric saws run at any elevation (my Stihls run rich and dirty above 8000’). For small cutting, the electrics are amazing. I’ve bucked trees up to about 24” with the 14” Ego. Works fine, but it’s just not the right saw for continuous large diameter cutting. Lastly, they run differently than gas saws. Just takes some getting used to. The electrics rely on keeping chain speed up rather that the torque of a big gas saw. They are more susceptible to twisting bind. Gotta have good cutting technique. The smaller 3/8” pico and 1/4” chains are so easy to sharpen. I hit rocks regularly with my trail work (flush cutting and working in an area full of granite). Sharpening these is a snap. Much easier than my full size 3/8” chain.
I have a Stihl Wood Boss 251 which I sprained my shoulder/bicep muscles on pulling to start, because of slightly old gas. I took apart and cleaned the carb 3 times before deciding to buy a new one and bought a spare one as well. It works great now, but it failed me when I needed it most. However in the mean time, I finished everything I had to do with my Ego 18" - I'm considering selling the Stihl, and using the money for extra battery and chain...
@@triggerhappydad65 I’m still overall happy with the saw. It’s not the best saw but it works. The post above about binding/twisting and throwing chains is a problem I’ve also encountered. Ego tools are ok or better but the batteries seem to be great.
@@codyhuber Appreciate the help. At our Christmas 2021 gatherings , my cousin (in from another state) told me how he replaced everything gas with all Ego tools, and really bragged on them all (including electric lawnmower), but when he got to taking about the chainsaw, he lit up like a Christmas tree. Talked about the damn thing forever.😂 That Christmas my wife bought me the Makita circular "E"saw, because I've owned and loved Makita saws since the 1980's. I appreciated it, but was skeptical and figured I'd probably end up using my old beat up one. Now? I don't plan to ever own another plug in saw. It's surprisingly powerful with way more torque than I would've thought, plus good run time. It's just so damn cool and hassle free with no cord, I say, why not? I'm between the Ego chainsaw and of course, the Makita ($). Thanks again.
My dad would always bring me his husqy and stihl saws every year to clean up and get back running. I got sick of it and bought him a Greenworks 80v saw, and I've never had to clean another saw again. The saw is 4 years old now and looks like it's been through hell and back, but still runs great and he loves it.
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Some people just don't want to deal with them and just neglect them untill theres a huge problem. Grandparents got a smaller combi weed eater type straight shaft deal, hard to start, runs like half choke, he still runs it like that just cause. 1 other neglected weedeater and 2 battery ones there too, for a fairly small properity (country ish house i guess not a small condo) but yeah just neglect i guess.
@ Yeah, a lot of people just neglect their equipment. My dad is one of those people...lol But I'm glad he enjoys the convenience of the battery powered saw. It's better for all of us.
Great video!!! Am a 50 something single woman and was looking for a good performer which was also light weight. The number of saws you reviewed was incredibly helpful!!!
I use the Milwaukee M18 platform for my battery operated tools. I use Stihl for my gas powered chainsaws. But for a battery operated chainsaw, I went with the Echo. It does everything I have needed it to do around the house and on the hunting land. I have no regrets with that purchase.
Everyone have use of a chainsaw!! You can have it in the back of your car in case you run into a fallen tree over the road. It can be used on everything from shrubbery to trees in your garden. And in worst case scenario it is a perfect deterrent if you get uninvited visitors!
Greenworks has been a great saw for me. I bought land a few years ago and it has more than paid for itself in the amount of clear cutting I've been able to do with it. Felling trees larger than I probably should, but that little electric job gets it done.
I have the Dewalt 20v max saw and it has to be one of my favorites tools I have purchased in years! I also own a new Stihl MS180 with the easy pull start feature that was not very expensive. To me this is the perfect blend for a home owner. The 20v max is awesome for cutting up a small amount of wood for a campfire, smaller trees, and by far so much safer and lighter than a gas powered chainsaw. They are fun to use too! But when big Bertha comes through (storm) and I need to cut for 1/2 a day or longer, I’m pulling out my Stihl gas powered saw. It’s a beast for a couple hundred bucks. If you have the Dewalt 20v max system, the add on of the chainsaw you will not regret.
Thanks for the EXCELLENT head to head. Having run Husqvarna and Sthil gas saws for the last 40 years I'm kinda partial to those - However, the point about going with the battery system you are already invested in is a key point. If anyone is interested, Husquvarna makes 2 backpack battery packs as well as the various sized snap in packs. Per their catalogue, the larger of the 2 backpacks will run the chainsaw for "firewood cutting" ( they have 2 categories, firewood cutting and felling) for about 3.5 hours on a single charge. Sadly those backpacks don't come cheap, but they are interchangeable with anything in their battery powered line ( line trimmer, blower, hedge trimmers, pole saw and whatever else they have or likely will have) Anyway, this vid answered a lot of questions - thanks !!
I already have various Milwaukee's tools and batteries so I went with them to have a chainsaw for the occasional cleaning around the my house at the mountains of Puerto Rico and I'm impressed with efficiency and reliability of having a tool sitting long period of time and when needed just work
Glad you mentioned the last category, matching chainsaw to battery platform I am already invested in. Since I only cut an occasional tree, I got the EGO as I can use the battery in my EGO grass trimmer.
As a professional tree worker, I'm a climber, I love the Stihl battery saws. Able to buck limbs off a 140ft spruce with it after my ground saw wouldn't start. I'm looking at their climbing/top handle saw. Saying that, I've talked my father into a Makita one simply because of its universal use with more construction products. Friend won one from a give away and is really pleased with it
I looked into the Stihl, they’re crazy expensive. They don’t bundle the tool and battery, you have to buy each component separately, including the charger.
Ive got five or six gas and three or four electric saws. The Echo 2511T is so far and away the best limbing saw. With a Sharp chain that thing slices thru anything under 6". Go thru tree limbs like a japanese chef from Benihana.
I had a Stihl gas saw and got so tired of it never starting and eventually the pull start came out. I picked up the Echo 58v electric saw due to reviews and price. I love this saw and it cuts so well. Starts right up and cuts quickly through anything I have given it. I had looked at the Stihl and Husky electrics, but for the money you can't beat the Echo. Very happy with it and it really feels like a gas saw, and I totally recommend the Echo 58v..
I was looking at the Stihl, until I realized that they sell every component a la carte. Bare tool, battery, charger, all separate. To get their top-of-the-line saw with the best battery and charger, you’re looking at a $750 purchase.
I'm going with that EGO, all day! Already bought into their ecosystem and both trimmer and edger are the best I've ever tried. Looking forward to replacing my tools with each tool they offer
Outstanding video. Since I come from a construction background and have already invested in a lot of Makita cordless tools and batteries, I'll probably go with the Makita. That said, I'd love to have the Stihl.
@@ricklewis33 same here. I bought the Makita 12 inch four years ago since I was already heavily invested in that platform as a professional carpenter. My Stihl sits in the shed gathering dust. I get it out only to fell larger trees...........
Bought Milwaukee for myself and crew, use them everyday. Not a single issue! Milwaukee has been making electric motors and batteries, chargers longer than almost every other manufacturer on this list..
I've been researching battery powered chainsaws for a bit now and you are the third video I've found that supports the ECHO as one of the best (bang for your buck) homeowners saws out there thanks for the verification I do believe I know which saw I've decided on.
Great head-to-head on these saws. My wife and I chose a Ryobi 14". It isn't the best tool in the shed, but it's definitely no slouch. Actually, the clincher was the range of tools we could use with the batteries. Those batteries are expensive as all get out, so being able to swap and go with such a big variety of tools at home was a huge factor for us.
Observations: Lists should probably be presented in whole, as text, within the frame -- at some point, anyway. For example, the criteria used for testing/comparison might be enumerated one-at-a-time, but once the last is mentioned the entire list should be thrown up on-screen. The charts should remain on the screen much longer than they do; a gesticulating talking head doesn't add much information, and can easily be confined -- perhaps cyclically or when the subject is changed -- to an inset in a corner of the frame. Those charts should probably be accumulated on the screen for a short while, so that viewers can make comparisons across the criteria and across saws, at-a-glance. This is not to say that the charts should _all_ be visible, cumulatively, until the end, at which point the screen is replete with the charts; instead, allow for a multi-variate comparison by showing, say, the most-recent three. Also, discussion of a particular saw could -- probably should -- be accompanied by an image of that saw in an inset image somewhere on the screen for the duration of that discussion. Not finally, since the saws all have differing voltages, it would be useful to colour-code the information in the charts such that it's relatively clear which saws are 36V, which 48V, which 60V, etc. for purposes of comparison. The information in the charts -- which flit by too quickly, unfortunately -- is relatively thin, but could be much denser.
For me, you are the best tool tester found online and on youtube. Period. Not only the width and the depth and the detail of the tests. Also the filming and sound quality and the clear speech and presentation. You are professionals. THANK YOU. I will go for the Stihl. They also have a variety of professional gardening and tree care tools which the battery pack fits. I do have both Makita and Milwaukee batteries and a lot of powertools, but I will still go for the Stihl. Today I have gas chain saws from Makita, Stihl, Huskvarna and Jonsered in different sizes. They all perform great. Not many consider the costs for gasoline vs electricity. Here in Europe gasoline is very expensive compared to the US. And the savings using electricity over gasoline (and two stroke oil) is really huge. If you are a gardener or run a garden care company, the savings using electricity is significant, and the costs for a whole new line of e powered garden tools will be paid off quite fast. Now its time for ⚡️ for me.
well done Very detailed and extremely unbiased. very impressive. We operate a fruit tree orchard where we need to prune between 70% to 80% of the limbs from a tree every year and having a lightweight battery-operated chain saw is a great benefit. We purchased the Kobalt 40V because we have other devices on that platform that have performed well. Being that the largest diameter branch or tree truck we cut is no more than 6" to 8" it works well for us. Thank you
Most of us who work construction, have already invested in a certain brand and have those certain batteries at our disposal and will buy the "tool only". For me, its Milwaukee and I own the M18 Chainsaw. It might not be the best, but I have the batteries and it still does a fine job cutting.
Anyone who likes to see the graphs: 5:53 Run time 8:38 Speed test 13:37 Overall size & balance 15:09 Features 18:45 Ergonomics 20:48 Decibel rank 21:34 Price And 22:33 is the best value pick.
The pro's might like the reduced noise. Especially up in a bucket in town. No one wants to hear a 2 stroke engine revving first thing in the morning. Fantastic review!!!!!
Thanks for this! My old husky died. I am on the Kobalt platform and now I am ready to add their 40v chainsaw to my tools. The 24v model handles most anything I need but this will be a good $150 investment.
I bought a Stihl 200 with a spare battery a year ago as a birthday present for my wife. . She says it was the best present EVER! She has used it to clean up downed trees and limbs, do property work ( we have 65 acres of mountaintop woods and fields), all with ease and confidence. It is quiet. Easy to handle. Smooth...and surprisingly quicker at cutting through most jobs than my older gas Stihl. . I have found it to be consistently much easier than hauling out my old trusty 1986 Stihl gas powered beast to the point where I don’t use the gas one at all any more. The only downside is that the smaller thin kerf chain seems to dull up a bit faster than the older larger toothed chain. Chalk up a win for Stihl!
Best review hands down. I subbed! I will never buy another kobalt anything. I bought two blowers and mine and my dad's both had issues with non existing customer service.
Me too. I find I'm still leaning towards ego because of their ultimately superior batteries. The cutting speeds are always hard to pay attention to on reviews cause I know they all don't have the same chain and we all know, if we've ever tried it, just how huge a difference an oregon full chisel chain makes.
@@peter2213 I don't agree. I think it depends on the frequency and intended use as well as if they decide to come out with a lower speed saw with increased torque and full chisel chain like they should've already done. Yet even without that for a special purpose like climbing they're easier to handle and work great for limbing. If your a home user that uses them infrequently yet you already have tools like say for instance Ryobi 18 volt their 14-in brushless is for medium to smaller trees for infrequent use but I sure wouldn't try to tackle a whole Forest of medium trees with it. Medium saying 20" and less. I own a 16" gas that I haven't touched in years since owning it as it's not worth the trouble cleaning all the gas out to store it again. plus if you're thinning woods they are great because you don't have to start and stop the saw constantly. Cordless are beyond worth it for the right purpose. And to be honest if I take about two of the 18 volt 6 amp hour batteries out with a jug of oil that's enough to wear me out for the day for thinning trees out. If your cutting lumber for a wood stove even they can do that but I wouldn't count on cutting a pickup truck bed load with one battery but with a good 9 ah battery I wouldn't doubt that I could possibly. They make a lot of cuts for smaller 10" or so stuff. So unless you're an all day pro or using daily for tons of firewood then yeah they're definitely worth it I think. They're definitely worth it for the right person just not a cutting wood all day long professional most likely. which to be honest I don't know any professionals that cut wood with a chainsaw all day long anymore. They all use a hydro axe and skidder.
Thanks for the review. Been watching you for a couple years. I understand "where" you're at with your platform, let's just say pressure. You were performing on this one. Not totally, but... I say this in all respect, being a carpenter for 38 years. I understand the "switch", but I'm I'm not happy how its being done and forced! "Green"! With all that said, all respect, all best wishes to you, your family, and all your boys that make all this work!!! It sounds like a good bye, NOT AT ALL!!! All sincerity, and looking forward to your next content. Thanks so much! david
Fantastic review of these saws. I have the Greenworks 80v line and find it a great saw to use in many situations. Neighbors appreciate it much more than the gas saw as well.
I am not normally a commenter! BUT....... This is the absolute very best cordless chainsaw evaluation. THANK-YOU I Am subscribed. (Makita bought out Dolmar some time ago AND THEY are makers of very high quality chainsaws since then!)
I have the same chainsaw and it works great for me on those small to medium jobs. You just have to know it's limits and run time with your batteries. I still have a gas Stihl chainsaw sitting in the shed for felling a tree or for a very rare occasion when I need longer run times than my batteries provide. I bought an upgraded 16 inch bar and chain combo for this chainsaw and it works great. When I need to sharpen the chain, I just swap out the whole bar and chain at the same time. Ryobi came out with a 40v 18 inch chainsaw, but it looks like it has the same motor as on this 14 inch chainsaw. I seldom use my gas Stihl chainsaw anymore. This 14 inch Ryobi 40v chainsaw is good enough for about 95% of my jobs around the house.
Rob I have been watching your videos for years - I think somewhere around 6 yrs and commenting for the first time. Great quality videos and well thought out !
Makita actually has a lot of Chainsaw competence, they own the chainsaw manufacturer Dolmar and work with their German factory. Also, I think the XCU09PT is the newer model.
18 inch electric battery Chainsaws are overall the most capable. From what I see the Ego18 inch bar and the Greenworks Commercial 18 inch bar are overall considered to be currently the most capable battery Chainsaws. Bravo! You guys did an excellent test. You should also conduct a test on 18 inch bar models!
Very interesting video - amazing to see how electric motors have progressed lately. The one thing that would be great to see would be a revisit to these saws after 6 months or a year of use and to see how many are still working and how many are broken, especially the ones with all the "bells and whistles" Especially those fitted with those "plastic" tool less chain tensioners like the De-WaltAnother thing that would be of interest is how long the battery packs last and how they cope with this sort of load, I think that this might be the weak link in these saws at the moment, might be wrong but I don't think the current battery technology used will last over time, which is why I think petrol 2 strokes are going to be around for quite a while to come. Thanks for a great video!
Great comparisons but the question I haven’t seen any one answer is what are the important specifications one should consider when comparing these saws? Is torque more important than chain speed? How does battery voltage and amp hour ratings affect performance? I’m a homeowner and recently purchased a Makita 10” 18V for light duty around the house. (16” Stihl 023 for the heavier stuff) High speed makes quick work of most jobs but you are right that you can’t force it or it will stall. Let it cut and alls well. The battery lasts about as long as I do. Keep up the good work! Cheers.
Rob and the tool box buzz crew, this is an emergency public announcement comment: Lowes recalled about 256,000 kobalt 40 volt chainsaws due to the switch failing during heavy ampere usage (fails to shut off when you let go of the trigger) just like the one that you tested in this video. The recall states that you should stop using those chainsaws immediately and return them to Lowes for a free replacement or refund. I just wanted to let you know that.
picked up the makita for home use. something easy for bad storms several times a year. $299 for the bare tool, but $350 for the tool, a dual charger, and two 5AH batteries. incredible deal
Thank you for this one, I'm sold. Chain saw wise I'm heavily vested in Stihl fuel chain saw and pole saw. Battery wise I'm heavily vested in Milwaukee. Although Milwaukee saw is highly rated in other videos I've seen, it does require a much higher amp hr. battery than I currently use for other devices. So I am going with the Stihl on this one as my purchase. Hurricane Laura wreck havoc on us in Louisiana and this battery powered saw would have been a big help on the limbs.
I'm a carpenter and own the makita. I'm very happy with the performance. Instant on instant off. No fumes. Enough power for all the jobs I do which range from log houses to demolition and fine work cutting beans and slabs.
Great stuff as always! Project farm did a similar test. The dewalt was the fastest but he mentioned the build quality and great balance of the makita. Fastest is not the most important thing about a tool.
Great video! Not in the least because I happen to have exactly the Stihl that you tested. The MSA220C. It costed an arm and a leg but wow, she cuts man! I'm really surprised at what you can do with a saw like this. And when you can also charge the battery with Solar Power, the TCO becomes very attractive.
I have a Stihl. MS 261. The stock chain was fast,. ( Higher RPM on this model). I changed it to a rapid cut. I love this saw. Solid, and NO vibration, well balanced and all day comfort.
I think some of the tests should be worth more points. Battery life should be worth the most points. It's one of the most important features in my opinion which would put the EGO chainsaw a lot higher up.
Best tool reviews on YT as always. Not one of your categories but I think worth pointing out. The DeWalt was pulled appart on AvE's channel and is cheaply built inside. Based on that alone I'd drop it to middle of the pack.
I have "insert random brand here" and I think it's great. I bought it at home repo and my mom said she loves me more cause I bought the best one on the market cause it's the one I bought.
You guys always do the best reviews! Whenever I’m considering buying a new tool I always check to see if you guys have done a shootout video before. Thanks for always putting out such great content!
I watched every video out there before I bought my Milwaukee chainsaw a few years ago. Now while researching options for someone else, I discovered this video. You blew all previous reviews out of the water and got my subscription.
Another update idea - for the bucket test, do a separate head-to-head of cordless top-handle saws, since several have been introduced since this video was made. That's the kind of saw you're more likely to want in a bucket.
Anyone that's in the Ryobi or Kobalt battery system, don't stress, even their saws are awesome tools. I've been banging one of the older Ryobi 1+ 18v (navy blue, from back in the ni-cad days) chainsaw for years. The thing is stubby, with a 12" bar, and even with its old brushed motor it was always surprisingly torquey and able to cut to the full depth of its bar. I love the thing, and I find a ton of truth in your closing remarks. My little electric chain sword, as I've always called it, would underperform every entrant in this contest, but it's still an absolute joy to use and a purchase that I've never regretted.
@@jayjones3254 Nice, since this comment, I've been building up a set of Kobalt's 40v line for my lawn tools as well. I haven't upgraded to their chainsaw yet, but I adore the pole saw attachment on their trimmer head.
@@jayjones3254 how's the blower? Does it have enough power to blow wet leaves? I'm in the pacific northwest, where the leaves are pretty much soggy all through the fall. Makes raking a pain in the butt, but I've not splurged on a blower yet out of concern that it just wouldn't be able to deal with wet leaves.
@@VincentDangerWater It seems strong to me( has a boost button too) but it's my first blower. And I'm in the Mississippi Delta with a lotta dry leaves, Ha. So not really sure about the wet leaf thing, sorry.
The reason makita did so well is probably due to the fact that they are coming from gas saws in the way of dolmar. So they do have quite a few years of experience there as well.
I think Makita is a company that when it goes in it goes all in. There was a few years that Makita fell behind but in the latest version of tools they look like they are going all out
Three test I would like to see are : cutting LVL/Parallma, cutting Rafters, and plungcuting plywood/OSB. Great video as usual, thanks for putting it together.
Great video. I have the Milwaukee and love it. I also have a Stihl gas powered 180C. The Stihl is amazing. My father has the Stihl battery saw and loves it. Milwaukee saw is heavy and he prefers to use his Stihl when we are cutting together. It’s a nice saw. If I was to start over I would go Stihl too. But already invested in the Milwaukee platform.
Great video , thank you very much for dong this! Very surprised about the compatibility of battery powered vs gasoline, under the conditions you tested the chainsaws. Have you considered testing them in conditions below 32 F degrees ( or using a frozen battery ). I own a winterized cottage, and the reason I purchased a chainsaw is more for winter emergencies than all the other indications. Should a tree fall across my exit route, I need to be able to get myself out rather than depend on anyone else. Just wondering how effective these saws would be after 10 mins in the cold.
Great video, I am heavily invested in the Makita LXT 18 Volt Battery Platform and have a Makita 36 Volt chainsaw and it’s a great saw, I also hav their XEC01 9” Power Cutter (Concrete Saw) and it’s simply amazing! With these battery powered tools once you get a feel for them they are superior to their gas equivalents.
Hi Rob, Something that would be helpful to include is what the added cost would be to get setup with a charger and 2 batteries( 2 or 4 depending on tool needs). IE something that an average user would want to have enough run time to complete a days work. I know the base tool cost is important and as you stated if you've already bought into a battery line it's best to buy the saw that uses those batteries. Though there are a fair number of people that haven't bought in and would consider buying into echos line to get some solid performance. Anyways keep up the good work and thanks for putting up interesting and informative content.
Just got a the smallest Stihl (200). It's as good or better than my Stihl 017 (MS 170) 30cc gas saw. Wondering now about the heavier Echo and battery/ charger or the Makita since I have a bunch of their batteries.
Surprised the ego did not rank in the top three. The new 18 inch is darn nice saw.The battery ran the full length road clearing job 16 acres for about 4 hours and still had half a charge left. Thing is freaking awsome.
Lowes website still sells 80 volt 5 ah 18" chainsaw. - I love my Kobalt 80-volt brushless 18" chainsaw with a 5-ah battery. - - I have (2) Kobalt 80-volt 18" Bar Chainsaws and use (2) 5 AH Batteries. Using it on a Southeast LA farm of 18 acres of tall large pine trees that was devastated by a Hurricane with a tornado. most of 10 acres nearly all down. The chainsaw has. been working great even cutting huge logs and trees up to 20"+ logs and it works like a great. And NO more pulling and pulling to start a gas-powered chainsaw. My first 80-volt 18" Bar Chain saw with a 5-AH Battery and charger was $400 in Jul 2021 and just this year bought the second one.
Thanks for the video. I am a home owner that needs access to chainsaw that is reliable and ready to go when I need it. In Texas we have trees that come down with storms often and it helps me to get from my country home to the highways if I have a way to cut through. I have a lot of Ryobi tools and am fairly happy with them. The battery technology of Ryobi could be better, I am constantly repairing the 18v & 40v battery packs (the 18v is more problem). So I am hesitant to go with a Ryobi Chainsaw because of the battery performance. I am interested in either Stihl or Dewalt. I have heard some complain about the oil dripping on the Ryobi. I am not writing this to convince anyone which way to go, just sharing my experience. All the best and thanks again for the video.
you may have already heard this or done this before but i would love to know battery/tool temp during the high load or high stress tests you guys perform. Great videos very in depth and perfect when buying a new tool.
I have the Makita and I love that the batteries work with my other power tools. When it was new and the chain was fresh, it did a lot! It does struggle now and is not very good power wise. I had a head to head here with an Ego and the Ego blasted my makita out of the water. It was comparable to my 455 gas Husky. Electric is best for trimming and intermittent cutting but for heavy use I put up with the noise of my gas saw and give my batteries a break (they really heat up with high torque situations!) No matter the platform, I think battery care and cost is a big deal. I am thinking of going with EGO or Greenworks for a chainsaw, lawnmower, trimmer and leaf blower, I don't think my Makita batteries are up for the heavy use of those tools. I am going to invest in a second battery platform, likely EGO after seeing this video and using my friends saw
Comprehensive and well put together video, with all the relevant information required to make a decision on which saw to buy, taking account of cost, ergonomics and requirement.
I bought a milwaukee over a year ago based on reviews and research, even though I am already invested in dewalt tools. I couldn't be happier with the purchase. I have no plans on ripping logs with it.
Great video, I have several battery saws and have similar results and thoughts with some of the same models, with the exception of the Milwaukee, I’ve never had any overheating issues and I’ve ran batteries from full to empty with no breaks, maybe you had a defective battery. Great video though I can tell you put tons of work into it, loved the detail and descriptions of each category the saws were tested in.
I have the 60V 16" Dewalt Chainsaw, I have to say the battery run-time on it is less than expected...however, I was using it to finish cutting down a Walnut tree. I have to say though it performed great, just have to have the batteries to feed it. Its a great alternative to a gas powered saw, but you have to have a way to charge the batteries if you are on the job, or have enough batteries to get through the job.
I got it last July and we used it pretty heavily cutting up and moving trees after we moved (had to cut some trees down to clear some space). I was surprised by how much power it had. My uncle first thought it was going to be a joke, after I let him use it to cut up a few trees he said he'd use it anywhere he'd use a gas power saw. He actually said the same thing about the 60v Dewalt trimmer. Dewalt nailed it with their Flexvolt tools.
It's interesting that the Shihl came in first given it's list price. I would have thought that this would have tipped the balance to one of the other higher end saws. I bought a Makita a month ago over the Milwaukee primarily because of its build quality, performance and price and the fact that I can buy a huge assortment of other power tools that use the 18V platform. I'm currently invested in the Milwaukee platform but figured there are still some tools out there that Makita has the edge, track saw being one of them, so it was worth branching out into a second platform and the build quality of the Makita saw was better than that of the DeWalt.
Great review Rob, very informative and thorough Test! Just bought the dewalt in 20max 2 weeks ago. It made quick work of an old peach tree with a 12" trunk. Only used about one and a half 5ah batteries. Loved it. I already have a husky gas saw, this fits the bill for quick and easy.
I have both the EGO and the Makita, and have used the DeWalt (though only briefly). I actually generally like the EGO more than the Makita, though, if I am pruning and only cutting smaller stuff I always grab the Makita because its a lot lighter and I have a shorter bar(18" on the EGO, 14" on the Makita) on it so it cuts small branches really fast. The Makita keeps turning itself off every 10 seconds which I know is a safety feature but it doesn't stop it driving me up the wall. I also don't like the Makita chain tension mechanism though I am not exactly a major fan of the EGO's either. That said if I am going to try and cut a whole trailer load of fire wood I have to take both saws and every single battery I own! Also, if you are already on the EGO platform, and you think you already have batteries for it, but they are 2.5 batteries, then unless you are only cutting a small number of smaller branches I assure you that you do not really already have batteries for it.
I just got a Stihl MSA 140 electric saw to use around my place, which I love. It cuts hard, dry oak very well and the battery design is well thought out
I personally own the milwaukee, and have used the stihl saw (the MSA 220, 200, and 161t) at my work. The 220c to myself and our arborist was a huge let down because of the lack of torque. Cutting larger mesquite trees took way longer due to the cut outs because the saw is all chain speed and very little torque. Cutting a 14” bottle tree branch with extremely soft wood one handed resulted in three stalls. In my opinion, the best saw of their range is the 161T top handle, because it can actually keep up the the gas top handles fairly well, yet using a mini rollomatic so it is super easy to use in trees like mesquites or palos. However, when I bring my milwaukee to work, the people i have loaned it to far prefer it. While it can clog with rip cuts, you can usually clean it out with out taking it apart, the saws torque is extremely advantageous and it even handles bottle trees better then the gas saws, which end up clogging due to the soft, gummy nature of the wood. All in all, my only complaint with the milwaukee is the occasional thermal overloads, which we do not have with out MSA 200s and 161T as long as we keep it out of the arizona sun unless using it. That being said, the milwaukee saw is a far better performer, and i have taken upwards of 20 trees with it, ranging from aleppo pine, mesquites, palo verdes, elms, sumacs, and a china berry, and willow acacias. Not to mention it has a traditional bar mounting system, which i find more reliable then the stihl tooless system. Under rare circiumstances, the stihl sprocket that is affixed to the bar to enable the tensioning, can stretch the rivet that holds it together when the chain is thrown and cause it to not hold tension. That has happened once at my work. All in all, the milwaukee is my favorite by far compared to the stihl saws
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Really helped me make a decision on which battery chainsaw to go for. I was considering a STIHL and this reinforced that for me. Even though this video is American, and I am in Australia. I still found this relevant and helpful.
Great stuff. Maybe the Part 2 video could include the new saw from Cub Cadet (60V now that Craftsman won't have it), a new Toro saw, Green Machine now at Home Depot, Snapper 82V, Worx-Nitro, Redback Pro series, maybe a Bluebird (125V), maybe Poulan Pro if they get resurrected...... Gone are the days with what I grew up with: Homelite and McCulloch...
A worthwhile 26 minutes. Thanks for your effort in this. I paid the premium 3 years ago and bought a small Stihl to replace a small Husky that seized and have no regrets. I also bought the smallest Stihl leaf blower, based on my satisfaction with the saw. It’s a champ, too.
I bought an Ego saw four years ago because Home Depot said I could return it after 90 days if I didn’t like it. Still running strong after four years of pounding on it. I’m a trail, crew leader and used it to clear miles of trail plus home use. Tons of cutting trees, brush, cutting stumps in the dirt, etc. Put it under a tarp at the work location and hauled batteries out of charging. I absolutely pounded on the thing. My initial concerns about the amount of plastic was unfounded. I’m a big believer. Bought the newest one as well (the 18” with 11,000 rpm chain speed). I’ve got the full range of gas Stihl saws as well from MS180 to 660 Magnum. I reach for the electric over the gas anywhere I can get away with it. The lack of noise, 2-stroke exhaust, and pull starting is rad. Since I work in the mountains between 6000-9000+ feet elevation, my electric saws run at any elevation (my Stihls run rich and dirty above 8000’).
For small cutting, the electrics are amazing. I’ve bucked trees up to about 24” with the 14” Ego. Works fine, but it’s just not the right saw for continuous large diameter cutting.
Lastly, they run differently than gas saws. Just takes some getting used to. The electrics rely on keeping chain speed up rather that the torque of a big gas saw. They are more susceptible to twisting bind. Gotta have good cutting technique. The smaller 3/8” pico and 1/4” chains are so easy to sharpen. I hit rocks regularly with my trail work (flush cutting and working in an area full of granite). Sharpening these is a snap. Much easier than my full size 3/8” chain.
I have a Stihl Wood Boss 251 which I sprained my shoulder/bicep muscles on pulling to start, because of slightly old gas. I took apart and cleaned the carb 3 times before deciding to buy a new one and bought a spare one as well. It works great now, but it failed me when I needed it most. However in the mean time, I finished everything I had to do with my Ego 18" - I'm considering selling the Stihl, and using the money for extra battery and chain...
Any concerns with bar oil usage during operation? Mine seems to run very dry and hot? Any other EGO use tips?
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I'm considering that one and also concerned about the heat/oil.
@@triggerhappydad65 I’m still overall happy with the saw. It’s not the best saw but it works. The post above about binding/twisting and throwing chains is a problem I’ve also encountered. Ego tools are ok or better but the batteries seem to be great.
@@codyhuber
Appreciate the help.
At our Christmas 2021 gatherings , my cousin (in from another state) told me how he replaced everything gas with all Ego tools, and really bragged on them all (including electric lawnmower), but when he got to taking about the chainsaw, he lit up like a Christmas tree. Talked about the damn thing forever.😂
That Christmas my wife bought me the Makita circular "E"saw, because I've owned and loved Makita saws since the 1980's.
I appreciated it, but was skeptical and figured I'd probably end up using my old beat up one.
Now?
I don't plan to ever own another plug in saw.
It's surprisingly powerful with way more torque than I would've thought, plus good run time.
It's just so damn cool and hassle free with no cord, I say, why not?
I'm between the Ego chainsaw and of course, the Makita ($).
Thanks again.
My dad would always bring me his husqy and stihl saws every year to clean up and get back running. I got sick of it and bought him a Greenworks 80v saw, and I've never had to clean another saw again. The saw is 4 years old now and looks like it's been through hell and back, but still runs great and he loves it.
Some people just don't want to deal with them and just neglect them untill theres a huge problem. Grandparents got a smaller combi weed eater type straight shaft deal, hard to start, runs like half choke, he still runs it like that just cause. 1 other neglected weedeater and 2 battery ones there too, for a fairly small properity (country ish house i guess not a small condo) but yeah just neglect i guess.
@ Yeah, a lot of people just neglect their equipment. My dad is one of those people...lol But I'm glad he enjoys the convenience of the battery powered saw. It's better for all of us.
Great video!!! Am a 50 something single woman and was looking for a good performer which was also light weight. The number of saws you reviewed was incredibly helpful!!!
what did you go with? I am thinking Makita for my daughter.
I use the Milwaukee M18 platform for my battery operated tools. I use Stihl for my gas powered chainsaws. But for a battery operated chainsaw, I went with the Echo. It does everything I have needed it to do around the house and on the hunting land. I have no regrets with that purchase.
I have no business owning a chainsaw of any sort, but thoroughly enjoyed this comparison. Well done
Me either but I want one now
Everyone have use of a chainsaw!! You can have it in the back of your car in case you run into a fallen tree over the road. It can be used on everything from shrubbery to trees in your garden. And in worst case scenario it is a perfect deterrent if you get uninvited visitors!
Greenworks has been a great saw for me. I bought land a few years ago and it has more than paid for itself in the amount of clear cutting I've been able to do with it. Felling trees larger than I probably should, but that little electric job gets it done.
As a lady i did not know which one to buy expecially for weight?
it was good to see the different tests,thanks for the time put into testing these!
I have the Dewalt 20v max saw and it has to be one of my favorites tools I have purchased in years! I also own a new Stihl MS180 with the easy pull start feature that was not very expensive. To me this is the perfect blend for a home owner. The 20v max is awesome for cutting up a small amount of wood for a campfire, smaller trees, and by far so much safer and lighter than a gas powered chainsaw. They are fun to use too! But when big Bertha comes through (storm) and I need to cut for 1/2 a day or longer, I’m pulling out my Stihl gas powered saw. It’s a beast for a couple hundred bucks. If you have the Dewalt 20v max system, the add on of the chainsaw you will not regret.
Thanks for the EXCELLENT head to head.
Having run Husqvarna and Sthil gas saws for the last 40 years I'm kinda partial to those - However, the point about going with the battery system you are already invested in is a key point.
If anyone is interested, Husquvarna makes 2 backpack battery packs as well as the various sized snap in packs. Per their catalogue, the larger of the 2 backpacks will run the chainsaw for "firewood cutting" ( they have 2 categories, firewood cutting and felling) for about 3.5 hours on a single charge.
Sadly those backpacks don't come cheap, but they are interchangeable with anything in their battery powered line ( line trimmer, blower, hedge trimmers, pole saw and whatever else they have or likely will have)
Anyway, this vid answered a lot of questions - thanks !!
I already have various Milwaukee's tools and batteries so I went with them to have a chainsaw for the occasional cleaning around the my house at the mountains of Puerto Rico and I'm impressed with efficiency and reliability of having a tool sitting long period of time and when needed just work
Glad you mentioned the last category, matching chainsaw to battery platform I am already invested in. Since I only cut an occasional tree, I got the EGO as I can use the battery in my EGO grass trimmer.
Same. I’m locked into the Ego system and it’s been good so far. I have two of their 56v batteries so I could just buy the bare tool chainsaw.
As a professional tree worker, I'm a climber, I love the Stihl battery saws. Able to buck limbs off a 140ft spruce with it after my ground saw wouldn't start.
I'm looking at their climbing/top handle saw.
Saying that, I've talked my father into a Makita one simply because of its universal use with more construction products. Friend won one from a give away and is really pleased with it
Get echo 2511t fantastic top handle saw
I looked into the Stihl, they’re crazy expensive. They don’t bundle the tool and battery, you have to buy each component separately, including the charger.
Ive got five or six gas and three or four electric saws. The Echo 2511T is so far and away the best limbing saw. With a Sharp chain that thing slices thru anything under 6". Go thru tree limbs like a japanese chef from Benihana.
I had a Stihl gas saw and got so tired of it never starting and eventually the pull start came out. I picked up the Echo 58v electric saw due to reviews and price. I love this saw and it cuts so well. Starts right up and cuts quickly through anything I have given it. I had looked at the Stihl and Husky electrics, but for the money you can't beat the Echo. Very happy with it and it really feels like a gas saw, and I totally recommend the Echo 58v..
You are absolutely right, the Echo did. not over heat and jammed, definitely would be my choice
I was looking at the Stihl, until I realized that they sell every component a la carte. Bare tool, battery, charger, all separate. To get their top-of-the-line saw with the best battery and charger, you’re looking at a $750 purchase.
I'm going with that EGO, all day! Already bought into their ecosystem and both trimmer and edger are the best I've ever tried. Looking forward to replacing my tools with each tool they offer
Outstanding video. Since I come from a construction background and have already invested in a lot of Makita cordless tools and batteries, I'll probably go with the Makita. That said, I'd love to have the Stihl.
Same here, I have both Milwaukee and Makita tools but Makita seems to be a better saw than Milwaukee so it is Makita for me.
Ditto
I own the Mikita and love it. I also have 1Gas Husky and 2gas Stihl . Small stuff around the house Mikita every time.
@@ricklewis33 same here. I bought the Makita 12 inch four years ago since I was already heavily invested in that platform as a professional carpenter. My Stihl sits in the shed gathering dust. I get it out only to fell larger trees...........
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I click on thumbnail thinking it's Project Farms. Great we get more of these product reviewers.
Welcome! Check out our head-2-heads
Bought Milwaukee for myself and crew, use them everyday. Not a single issue! Milwaukee has been making electric motors and batteries, chargers longer than almost every other manufacturer on this list..
I've been researching battery powered chainsaws for a bit now and you are the third video I've found that supports the ECHO as one of the best (bang for your buck) homeowners saws out there thanks for the verification I do believe I know which saw I've decided on.
Great head-to-head on these saws. My wife and I chose a Ryobi 14". It isn't the best tool in the shed, but it's definitely no slouch. Actually, the clincher was the range of tools we could use with the batteries. Those batteries are expensive as all get out, so being able to swap and go with such a big variety of tools at home was a huge factor for us.
Observations:
Lists should probably be presented in whole, as text, within the frame -- at some point, anyway. For example, the criteria used for testing/comparison might be enumerated one-at-a-time, but once the last is mentioned the entire list should be thrown up on-screen.
The charts should remain on the screen much longer than they do; a gesticulating talking head doesn't add much information, and can easily be confined -- perhaps cyclically or when the subject is changed -- to an inset in a corner of the frame. Those charts should probably be accumulated on the screen for a short while, so that viewers can make comparisons across the criteria and across saws, at-a-glance. This is not to say that the charts should _all_ be visible, cumulatively, until the end, at which point the screen is replete with the charts; instead, allow for a multi-variate comparison by showing, say, the most-recent three.
Also, discussion of a particular saw could -- probably should -- be accompanied by an image of that saw in an inset image somewhere on the screen for the duration of that discussion.
Not finally, since the saws all have differing voltages, it would be useful to colour-code the information in the charts such that it's relatively clear which saws are 36V, which 48V, which 60V, etc. for purposes of comparison. The information in the charts -- which flit by too quickly, unfortunately -- is relatively thin, but could be much denser.
For me, you are the best tool tester found online and on youtube. Period. Not only the width and the depth and the detail of the tests. Also the filming and sound quality and the clear speech and presentation. You are professionals. THANK YOU.
I will go for the Stihl. They also have a variety of professional gardening and tree care tools which the battery pack fits. I do have both Makita and Milwaukee batteries and a lot of powertools, but I will still go for the Stihl. Today I have gas chain saws from Makita, Stihl, Huskvarna and Jonsered in different sizes. They all perform great.
Not many consider the costs for gasoline vs electricity. Here in Europe gasoline is very expensive compared to the US. And the savings using electricity over gasoline (and two stroke oil) is really huge.
If you are a gardener or run a garden care company, the savings using electricity is significant, and the costs for a whole new line of e powered garden tools will be paid off quite fast. Now its time for ⚡️ for me.
well done Very detailed and extremely unbiased. very impressive.
We operate a fruit tree orchard where we need to prune between 70% to 80% of the limbs from a tree every year and having a lightweight battery-operated chain saw is a great benefit. We purchased the Kobalt 40V because we have other devices on that platform that have performed well. Being that the largest diameter branch or tree truck we cut is no more than 6" to 8" it works well for us.
Thank you
Most of us who work construction, have already invested in a certain brand and have those certain batteries at our disposal and will buy the "tool only".
For me, its Milwaukee and I own the M18 Chainsaw.
It might not be the best, but I have the batteries and it still does a fine job cutting.
Anyone who likes to see the graphs:
5:53 Run time
8:38 Speed test
13:37 Overall size & balance
15:09 Features
18:45 Ergonomics
20:48 Decibel rank
21:34 Price
And 22:33 is the best value pick.
Thank you very much! You are a genius!
Appreciate that thank u
The pro's might like the reduced noise. Especially up in a bucket in town. No one wants to hear a 2 stroke engine revving first thing in the morning. Fantastic review!!!!!
Thanks for this! My old husky died. I am on the Kobalt platform and now I am ready to add their 40v chainsaw to my tools. The 24v model handles most anything I need but this will be a good $150 investment.
I bought a Stihl 200 with a spare battery a year ago as a birthday present for my wife. . She says it was the best present EVER! She has used it to clean up downed trees and limbs, do property work ( we have 65 acres of mountaintop woods and fields), all with ease and confidence. It is quiet. Easy to handle. Smooth...and surprisingly quicker at cutting through most jobs than my older gas Stihl. . I have found it to be consistently much easier than hauling out my old trusty 1986 Stihl gas powered beast to the point where I don’t use the gas one at all any more. The only downside is that the smaller thin kerf chain seems to dull up a bit faster than the older larger toothed chain. Chalk up a win for Stihl!
Best review hands down. I subbed! I will never buy another kobalt anything. I bought two blowers and mine and my dad's both had issues with non existing customer service.
I’ve been waiting for this one before buying one.
Me too. I find I'm still leaning towards ego because of their ultimately superior batteries. The cutting speeds are always hard to pay attention to on reviews cause I know they all don't have the same chain and we all know, if we've ever tried it, just how huge a difference an oregon full chisel chain makes.
Honestly it’s not really worth going electric yet
@@peter2213 I don't agree. I think it depends on the frequency and intended use as well as if they decide to come out with a lower speed saw with increased torque and full chisel chain like they should've already done. Yet even without that for a special purpose like climbing they're easier to handle and work great for limbing. If your a home user that uses them infrequently yet you already have tools like say for instance Ryobi 18 volt their 14-in brushless is for medium to smaller trees for infrequent use but I sure wouldn't try to tackle a whole Forest of medium trees with it. Medium saying 20" and less. I own a 16" gas that I haven't touched in years since owning it as it's not worth the trouble cleaning all the gas out to store it again. plus if you're thinning woods they are great because you don't have to start and stop the saw constantly. Cordless are beyond worth it for the right purpose. And to be honest if I take about two of the 18 volt 6 amp hour batteries out with a jug of oil that's enough to wear me out for the day for thinning trees out. If your cutting lumber for a wood stove even they can do that but I wouldn't count on cutting a pickup truck bed load with one battery but with a good 9 ah battery I wouldn't doubt that I could possibly. They make a lot of cuts for smaller 10" or so stuff. So unless you're an all day pro or using daily for tons of firewood then yeah they're definitely worth it I think. They're definitely worth it for the right person just not a cutting wood all day long professional most likely. which to be honest I don't know any professionals that cut wood with a chainsaw all day long anymore. They all use a hydro axe and skidder.
Thanks for the review. Been watching you for a couple years. I understand "where" you're at with your platform, let's just say pressure. You were performing on this one. Not totally, but...
I say this in all respect, being a carpenter for 38 years.
I understand the "switch", but I'm I'm not happy how its being done and forced! "Green"!
With all that said, all respect, all best wishes to you, your family, and all your boys that make all this work!!! It sounds like a good bye, NOT AT ALL!!! All sincerity, and looking forward to your next content. Thanks so much! david
Fantastic review of these saws. I have the Greenworks 80v line and find it a great saw to use in many situations. Neighbors appreciate it much more than the gas saw as well.
Excellent video. So clear and scientific. Probably the best assessment I've ever seen on TH-cam. Thank you!
I am not normally a commenter! BUT.......
This is the absolute very best cordless chainsaw evaluation. THANK-YOU I Am subscribed. (Makita bought out Dolmar some time ago AND THEY are makers of very high quality chainsaws since then!)
Thanks for commenting
I just wanted to comment on that great looking woodworking shop! Wow, it's impressive! Nice!
I have the same chainsaw and it works great for me on those small to medium jobs. You just have to know it's limits and run time with your batteries. I still have a gas Stihl chainsaw sitting in the shed for felling a tree or for a very rare occasion when I need longer run times than my batteries provide. I bought an upgraded 16 inch bar and chain combo for this chainsaw and it works great. When I need to sharpen the chain, I just swap out the whole bar and chain at the same time. Ryobi came out with a 40v 18 inch chainsaw, but it looks like it has the same motor as on this 14 inch chainsaw. I seldom use my gas Stihl chainsaw anymore. This 14 inch Ryobi 40v chainsaw is good enough for about 95% of my jobs around the house.
Rob I have been watching your videos for years - I think somewhere around 6 yrs and commenting for the first time. Great quality videos and well thought out !
Wow thanks for following , what took soo long to comment?
As an eco conscious cannibal from Texas, I appreciate the shout out.
Makita actually has a lot of Chainsaw competence, they own the chainsaw manufacturer Dolmar and work with their German factory. Also, I think the XCU09PT is the newer model.
Dolmar makes the best saw, therefore gas makita is also the best chainsaw
18 inch electric battery Chainsaws are overall the most capable.
From what I see the Ego18 inch bar and the Greenworks Commercial 18 inch bar are overall considered to be currently the most capable battery Chainsaws.
Bravo! You guys did an excellent test. You should also conduct a test on 18 inch bar models!
I purchased an Echo before I saw this test. The Echo works great - no worries about bad gas and "no-starts."
The echo was the number 1 pick from the farm channel guy.project farm I think
Great video. Let's get an updated version, as they're are many new e-saws on market
Very interesting video - amazing to see how electric motors have progressed lately. The one thing that would be great to see would be a revisit to these saws after 6 months or a year of use and to see how many are still working and how many are broken, especially the ones with all the "bells and whistles" Especially those fitted with those "plastic" tool less chain tensioners like the De-WaltAnother thing that would be of interest is how long the battery packs last and how they cope with this sort of load, I think that this might be the weak link in these saws at the moment, might be wrong but I don't think the current battery technology used will last over time, which is why I think petrol 2 strokes are going to be around for quite a while to come. Thanks for a great video!
Great comparisons but the question I haven’t seen any one answer is what are the important specifications one should consider when comparing these saws? Is torque more important than chain speed? How does battery voltage and amp hour ratings affect performance? I’m a homeowner and recently purchased a Makita 10” 18V for light duty around the house. (16” Stihl 023 for the heavier stuff) High speed makes quick work of most jobs but you are right that you can’t force it or it will stall. Let it cut and alls well. The battery lasts about as long as I do. Keep up the good work! Cheers.
Rob and the tool box buzz crew, this is an emergency public announcement comment: Lowes recalled about 256,000 kobalt 40 volt chainsaws due to the switch failing during heavy ampere usage (fails to shut off when you let go of the trigger) just like the one that you tested in this video. The recall states that you should stop using those chainsaws immediately and return them to Lowes for a free replacement or refund. I just wanted to let you know that.
CBSBKKAMcomputerhelp thanks can you forward that to me at info@concordcarpenter.com
CBSBKKAMcomputerhelp we checked it’s a different saw
Wowowow that's dangerous
That recall does not apply to the saw that was tested. The recall is currently on the 12" model of the 40V saw only.
That recall does not apply to the saw that was tested. The recall is currently on the 12" model of the 40V saw only.
I would love to see the 18in Ego as it has a much higher RPM which could really help it be an even better cutter and long-lasting
bought the 18" and it works great and I can use batteries I have from my other EGO tools
Also has .50" chain vs .43"
I'd bet it takes the cake!
picked up the makita for home use. something easy for bad storms several times a year. $299 for the bare tool, but $350 for the tool, a dual charger, and two 5AH batteries. incredible deal
I am thinking in longevity the Makita might be in the top three as well.
Thank you for this one, I'm sold. Chain saw wise I'm heavily vested in Stihl fuel chain saw and pole saw.
Battery wise I'm heavily vested in Milwaukee. Although Milwaukee saw is highly rated in other videos I've seen, it does require a much higher amp hr. battery than I currently use for other devices. So I am going with the Stihl on this one as my purchase.
Hurricane Laura wreck havoc on us in Louisiana and this battery powered saw would have been a big help on the limbs.
I'm a carpenter and own the makita. I'm very happy with the performance. Instant on instant off. No fumes. Enough power for all the jobs I do which range from log houses to demolition and fine work cutting beans and slabs.
Second.
This is excellent! I can’t believe I watched a 26 minute video, and I felt like just 12
It was 26 minutes???
Y D thanks man guess we did our job
Great stuff as always! Project farm did a similar test. The dewalt was the fastest but he mentioned the build quality and great balance of the makita. Fastest is not the most important thing about a tool.
Project farm produced two videos. In the first video the Milwaukee came out second.
And Echo came top place in the second video review
@@thomaspayne6866 It makes one ask the question. Was the Milwaukee brand model. A defective one and or was the bad result. Due to a defective battery?
Great video! Not in the least because I happen to have exactly the Stihl that you tested. The MSA220C.
It costed an arm and a leg but wow, she cuts man! I'm really surprised at what you can do with a saw like this.
And when you can also charge the battery with Solar Power, the TCO becomes very attractive.
I have a Stihl. MS 261. The stock chain was fast,. ( Higher RPM on this model). I changed it to a rapid cut. I love this saw. Solid, and NO vibration, well balanced and all day comfort.
I think some of the tests should be worth more points. Battery life should be worth the most points. It's one of the most important features in my opinion which would put the EGO chainsaw a lot higher up.
Best tool reviews on YT as always. Not one of your categories but I think worth pointing out. The DeWalt was pulled appart on AvE's channel and is cheaply built inside. Based on that alone I'd drop it to middle of the pack.
I have "insert random brand here" and I think it's great. I bought it at home repo and my mom said she loves me more cause I bought the best one on the market cause it's the one I bought.
You guys always do the best reviews! Whenever I’m considering buying a new tool I always check to see if you guys have done a shootout video before. Thanks for always putting out such great content!
I watched every video out there before I bought my Milwaukee chainsaw a few years ago. Now while researching options for someone else, I discovered this video. You blew all previous reviews out of the water and got my subscription.
Already bought a saw before watching this, but you confirmed my choice was right for me.
Thanks, great review
Thank you,Rob and Team , Xclnt and timely for me!
Another update idea - for the bucket test, do a separate head-to-head of cordless top-handle saws, since several have been introduced since this video was made. That's the kind of saw you're more likely to want in a bucket.
Anyone that's in the Ryobi or Kobalt battery system, don't stress, even their saws are awesome tools.
I've been banging one of the older Ryobi 1+ 18v (navy blue, from back in the ni-cad days) chainsaw for years. The thing is stubby, with a 12" bar, and even with its old brushed motor it was always surprisingly torquey and able to cut to the full depth of its bar.
I love the thing, and I find a ton of truth in your closing remarks. My little electric chain sword, as I've always called it, would underperform every entrant in this contest, but it's still an absolute joy to use and a purchase that I've never regretted.
I have the Kobalt 40V system: Lawnmower, blower, & just recently the chain saw. So far i love all 3. No issues.
@@jayjones3254 Nice, since this comment, I've been building up a set of Kobalt's 40v line for my lawn tools as well. I haven't upgraded to their chainsaw yet, but I adore the pole saw attachment on their trimmer head.
@@VincentDangerWater Thats my next purchase & weed eater.
@@jayjones3254 how's the blower? Does it have enough power to blow wet leaves? I'm in the pacific northwest, where the leaves are pretty much soggy all through the fall. Makes raking a pain in the butt, but I've not splurged on a blower yet out of concern that it just wouldn't be able to deal with wet leaves.
@@VincentDangerWater It seems strong to me( has a boost button too) but it's my first blower. And I'm in the Mississippi Delta with a lotta dry leaves, Ha. So not really sure about the wet leaf thing, sorry.
The reason makita did so well is probably due to the fact that they are coming from gas saws in the way of dolmar. So they do have quite a few years of experience there as well.
I think Makita is a company that when it goes in it goes all in. There was a few years that Makita fell behind but in the latest version of tools they look like they are going all out
Makita bought dolmar a few years ago apparently. Heard that from the head Makita accessory trainer in Australia
@@kizzjd9578 If 1991 was "a few years ago" then I agree :D
@@savageboner haha, "a few years ago" and "the other day" can be up to 30 years ago 😂
Makita also makes two versions of a cordless chainsaw. It'd be interesting to have them try the other version
Three test I would like to see are : cutting LVL/Parallma, cutting Rafters, and plungcuting plywood/OSB. Great video as usual, thanks for putting it together.
Great video. I have the Milwaukee and love it. I also have a Stihl gas powered 180C. The Stihl is amazing. My father has the Stihl battery saw and loves it. Milwaukee saw is heavy and he prefers to use his Stihl when we are cutting together. It’s a nice saw. If I was to start over I would go Stihl too. But already invested in the Milwaukee platform.
Great video , thank you very much for dong this! Very surprised about the compatibility of battery powered vs gasoline, under the conditions you tested the chainsaws. Have you considered testing them in conditions below 32 F degrees ( or using a frozen battery ). I own a winterized cottage, and the reason I purchased a chainsaw is more for winter emergencies than all the other indications. Should a tree fall across my exit route, I need to be able to get myself out rather than depend on anyone else. Just wondering how effective these saws would be after 10 mins in the cold.
As a home owner user, i prefer traditional chain tensioner. And am very happy to see that Makita released a traditional tensioner model recently.
Great video, I am heavily invested in the Makita LXT 18 Volt Battery Platform and have a Makita 36 Volt chainsaw and it’s a great saw, I also hav their XEC01 9” Power Cutter (Concrete Saw) and it’s simply amazing! With these battery powered tools once you get a feel for them they are superior to their gas equivalents.
Thank you for the structured information that makes it easier for me to buy a chainsaw according to my needs. Success for you in the future.
Just bought a Toro 60v chainsaw. Will make a hundred cuts with the 6ah battery. Cuts like butter and uses Oregon chains.
Best review of cordless saws I've seen. Thank you.
Hi Rob, Something that would be helpful to include is what the added cost would be to get setup with a charger and 2 batteries( 2 or 4 depending on tool needs). IE something that an average user would want to have enough run time to complete a days work. I know the base tool cost is important and as you stated if you've already bought into a battery line it's best to buy the saw that uses those batteries. Though there are a fair number of people that haven't bought in and would consider buying into echos line to get some solid performance. Anyways keep up the good work and thanks for putting up interesting and informative content.
Just got a the smallest Stihl (200). It's as good or better than my Stihl 017 (MS 170) 30cc gas saw. Wondering now about the heavier Echo and battery/ charger or the Makita since I have a bunch of their batteries.
Got the Stihl one we rarely have to use the gas one to cut our winter’s firewood.
How much was the Stihl?
Surprised the ego did not rank in the top three. The new 18 inch is darn nice saw.The battery ran the full length road clearing job 16 acres for about 4 hours and still had half a charge left. Thing is freaking awsome.
I had 1 couldn't get the chain to stay on
Metabo will release one soon. I love their cordless tools.
Great comparison! Appreciate it. I just picked up the Dewalt so I can run the batteries in everything
Lowes website still sells 80 volt 5 ah 18" chainsaw. - I love my Kobalt 80-volt brushless 18" chainsaw with a 5-ah battery. - - I have (2) Kobalt 80-volt 18" Bar Chainsaws and use (2) 5 AH Batteries. Using it on a Southeast LA farm of 18 acres of tall large pine trees that was devastated by a Hurricane with a tornado. most of 10 acres nearly all down. The chainsaw has. been working great even cutting huge logs and trees up to 20"+ logs and it works like a great. And NO more pulling and pulling to start a gas-powered chainsaw. My first 80-volt 18" Bar Chain saw with a 5-AH Battery and charger was $400 in Jul 2021 and just this year bought the second one.
Thanks for the video. I am a home owner that needs access to chainsaw that is reliable and ready to go when I need it. In Texas we have trees that come down with storms often and it helps me to get from my country home to the highways if I have a way to cut through. I have a lot of Ryobi tools and am fairly happy with them. The battery technology of Ryobi could be better, I am constantly repairing the 18v & 40v battery packs (the 18v is more problem). So I am hesitant to go with a Ryobi Chainsaw because of the battery performance. I am interested in either Stihl or Dewalt. I have heard some complain about the oil dripping on the Ryobi. I am not writing this to convince anyone which way to go, just sharing my experience. All the best and thanks again for the video.
you may have already heard this or done this before but i would love to know battery/tool temp during the high load or high stress tests you guys perform. Great videos very in depth and perfect when buying a new tool.
I have the Makita and I love that the batteries work with my other power tools. When it was new and the chain was fresh, it did a lot! It does struggle now and is not very good power wise. I had a head to head here with an Ego and the Ego blasted my makita out of the water. It was comparable to my 455 gas Husky. Electric is best for trimming and intermittent cutting but for heavy use I put up with the noise of my gas saw and give my batteries a break (they really heat up with high torque situations!)
No matter the platform, I think battery care and cost is a big deal. I am thinking of going with EGO or Greenworks for a chainsaw, lawnmower, trimmer and leaf blower, I don't think my Makita batteries are up for the heavy use of those tools. I am going to invest in a second battery platform, likely EGO after seeing this video and using my friends saw
Comprehensive and well put together video, with all the relevant information required to make a decision on which saw to buy, taking account of cost, ergonomics and requirement.
I bought a milwaukee over a year ago based on reviews and research, even though I am already invested in dewalt tools. I couldn't be happier with the purchase. I have no plans on ripping logs with it.
I already have Dewalt tools so I was wondering if I should continue with that. I don't have many trees to cut down so the greenworks interests me
Really liking the Makita.
Great video, I have several battery saws and have similar results and thoughts with some of the same models, with the exception of the Milwaukee, I’ve never had any overheating issues and I’ve ran batteries from full to empty with no breaks, maybe you had a defective battery. Great video though I can tell you put tons of work into it, loved the detail and descriptions of each category the saws were tested in.
I have the 60V 16" Dewalt Chainsaw, I have to say the battery run-time on it is less than expected...however, I was using it to finish cutting down a Walnut tree. I have to say though it performed great, just have to have the batteries to feed it. Its a great alternative to a gas powered saw, but you have to have a way to charge the batteries if you are on the job, or have enough batteries to get through the job.
Great video, good to have one for a small homeowner who is not a pro.
I have the Dewalt and it’s a beast .
I got it last July and we used it pretty heavily cutting up and moving trees after we moved (had to cut some trees down to clear some space). I was surprised by how much power it had. My uncle first thought it was going to be a joke, after I let him use it to cut up a few trees he said he'd use it anywhere he'd use a gas power saw. He actually said the same thing about the 60v Dewalt trimmer. Dewalt nailed it with their Flexvolt tools.
It's interesting that the Shihl came in first given it's list price. I would have thought that this would have tipped the balance to one of the other higher end saws. I bought a Makita a month ago over the Milwaukee primarily because of its build quality, performance and price and the fact that I can buy a huge assortment of other power tools that use the 18V platform. I'm currently invested in the Milwaukee platform but figured there are still some tools out there that Makita has the edge, track saw being one of them, so it was worth branching out into a second platform and the build quality of the Makita saw was better than that of the DeWalt.
Great review Rob, very informative and thorough Test! Just bought the dewalt in 20max 2 weeks ago. It made quick work of an old peach tree with a 12" trunk. Only used about one and a half 5ah batteries. Loved it. I already have a husky gas saw, this fits the bill for quick and easy.
Excellent, pro review. Really informative and helpful for myself in determining what best electric chainsaw for my needs. Thank you!
You guys do a fantastic job with these reviews. Thank you!
Wow, I had a Husqvarna 440c way back in the 80's. Might have to get an electric one. Awesome review
Darren Hallam the new husky 540i blows the 536i he reviewed out of the water
You guys did a great job evaluating here saws. Keep up the good work👍
First video I’ve seen of yours. Great production. I got an echo gas chainsaw and I’ll probably end up buying an echo battery one next.
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I have both the EGO and the Makita, and have used the DeWalt (though only briefly). I actually generally like the EGO more than the Makita, though, if I am pruning and only cutting smaller stuff I always grab the Makita because its a lot lighter and I have a shorter bar(18" on the EGO, 14" on the Makita) on it so it cuts small branches really fast. The Makita keeps turning itself off every 10 seconds which I know is a safety feature but it doesn't stop it driving me up the wall. I also don't like the Makita chain tension mechanism though I am not exactly a major fan of the EGO's either. That said if I am going to try and cut a whole trailer load of fire wood I have to take both saws and every single battery I own!
Also, if you are already on the EGO platform, and you think you already have batteries for it, but they are 2.5 batteries, then unless you are only cutting a small number of smaller branches I assure you that you do not really already have batteries for it.
I just got a Stihl MSA 140 electric saw to use around my place, which I love. It cuts hard, dry oak very well and the battery design is well thought out
I personally own the milwaukee, and have used the stihl saw (the MSA 220, 200, and 161t) at my work. The 220c to myself and our arborist was a huge let down because of the lack of torque. Cutting larger mesquite trees took way longer due to the cut outs because the saw is all chain speed and very little torque. Cutting a 14” bottle tree branch with extremely soft wood one handed resulted in three stalls. In my opinion, the best saw of their range is the 161T top handle, because it can actually keep up the the gas top handles fairly well, yet using a mini rollomatic so it is super easy to use in trees like mesquites or palos. However, when I bring my milwaukee to work, the people i have loaned it to far prefer it. While it can clog with rip cuts, you can usually clean it out with out taking it apart, the saws torque is extremely advantageous and it even handles bottle trees better then the gas saws, which end up clogging due to the soft, gummy nature of the wood. All in all, my only complaint with the milwaukee is the occasional thermal overloads, which we do not have with out MSA 200s and 161T as long as we keep it out of the arizona sun unless using it. That being said, the milwaukee saw is a far better performer, and i have taken upwards of 20 trees with it, ranging from aleppo pine, mesquites, palo verdes, elms, sumacs, and a china berry, and willow acacias. Not to mention it has a traditional bar mounting system, which i find more reliable then the stihl tooless system. Under rare circiumstances, the stihl sprocket that is affixed to the bar to enable the tensioning, can stretch the rivet that holds it together when the chain is thrown and cause it to not hold tension. That has happened once at my work. All in all, the milwaukee is my favorite by far compared to the stihl saws
Maybe you should do a whole video of your own on cutting bottle trees and mesquite for the seven people that have those. Might get 2 or 3 views.
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For 100? What time of the year did you get that deal?
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All battery chainsaws are great,they are make really good truck saws, thanks for the video.
Really helped me make a decision on which battery chainsaw to go for. I was considering a STIHL and this reinforced that for me. Even though this video is American, and I am in Australia. I still found this relevant and helpful.
Great stuff. Maybe the Part 2 video could include the new saw from Cub Cadet (60V now that Craftsman won't have it), a new Toro saw, Green Machine now at Home Depot, Snapper 82V, Worx-Nitro, Redback Pro series, maybe a Bluebird (125V), maybe Poulan Pro if they get resurrected...... Gone are the days with what I grew up with: Homelite and McCulloch...