But this is a TH-cam show. The Tavarish factor in this theatre is not to be overlooked. He isn't someone I would pay to work on my car, Ferrari or not. Much like Tavarish his lack of knowledge and 'how hard can it be?' is what makes good viewing. In fact the worse it gets the better it will be for his channel.
That yellow insulation looks like house insulation. That material hold water like a sponge. Whoever stuffed it in did more rust damage than one can imagine.
I've owned similar a similar vintage 308 and a Mondial … I believe the fibreglass type of matting was factory. When I restored the Mondal it was soaked, leaking boot rubber. Fortunately for me there was only surface rust!
Instead of replacement with the same thing look at dynamat and silent coat they sound proofing materials which will deal with heat better and do not absorb water and provide much better sound vibration isolation
This is the stuff of my nightmares. I’m currently restoring my to-be daily (in my driveway and on axle stands as well) and I thought it was going to be an easy project, just a few parts to replace. That was until I removed the wheels and brake disks; the amount of rust took me by surprise and so far I’ve spent more time and money on rusty parts than anything else. Getting an original part from Ferrari might appease the purists but upgrades in these situations aren’t uncommon. Given it’s a simple flat surface, I would suggest you fabricate something out of aluminium to avoid this kind of rust in the future.
Easier if you remove the engine with sub-frame out - and while its out you remove the over-spray and aesthetically restore the engine (clean and paint pulleys, tidy up all the hoses, cables and clamps, etc.)
You know it's one thing to tackle some of the things you do anyway but to do them on your drive with axle stands I take my hat off to you. You're an inspiration!
Unbelievable you work on these cars on your driveway. Good effort for doing this work yourself. The Ferrari’s looks to be well engineered, which surprises me.
Another great video. It always rains when working outside, just to remind us we need a bigger garage! Just got a Rode Go mic myself and keen to try it out too. Cheers
You might think of making your own panel and gluing it in place with the 3M body adhesive and sheet metal screws. After the adhesive cures you remove the screws and fill the holes with more adhesive. I installed new rear quarter panels on my 1966 Galaxie and it worked very well.
I love that red UK public toilet that you have in your garden. Probably not many left in operation these days. There were plenty around when I was growing up in London in the 60's.
Its interesting how bad some of the welds are old ferraris, they look very home made, even right up to the testarossa they are pretty rough. The rust panel should be reasonable easy to fab if you can't find an original. Keep up the good work.
Awesome content Scott and your 'can do' attitude is definitely a winner!!! Struggling with my Porsche 930 at the moment and taking inspiration from your work with the 308. Keep it going mate!!
5:30 - You know what works well here on the ground? Those foam EVA mats. I have a bunch of them and they make working on the ground a delight. They are cheap too.
Take measurements an a drawing, Go down to your local metal fabricators and get them to make a cover, easy job for them. Fit it yourself with self tappers or body panel adhesive, just remember to red oxide it. Do not underseal it, its worst thing ever made by man. Keep going buddy you doing a great job, love your vids.
That starter motor looks like the one on my old Guzzi (about 60 quid). If you're going for old Italian vehicles, I'd recommend bikes - everything sticks out at you!
As for the starter motor, if you're lucky you can find an auto electricians workshop nearby- they can re-furbish the starter motor at a fraction of the cost of a new starter.
Thanks for the great video this was one of your best, that rust will be simple compared to what you have in front of you with the rest of the car and wiring. Looking forward to your next video.
Gives me hope.........thankyou! I thought I had problems with one of my fleet, but that rust, omg, horrible. It will get repaired, I know that, I would have been beyond daunted. Good luck
I made these panels a while back. I can send you the drawings, mine was just the same, it is not that bad as it looks;-) send me a pm if you need info.
@@1SECRETBILLY it has to deal with a lot of potentional heat. Aluminium was no option. The parts are welded on the frame (in my case), so we used sheet metal.
OMG Scott. How on earth did this 308 ever get through an M.O.T.......? With all that underbody rot and rust. Really hope to see this amazing build back up to pristine condition one day. Beat regards From Australia 🇦🇺
Commiserarions on finding the rust Scott - at least access is ok with exhaust removed but still a pain to fix no doubt. Interested to see you removing the front manifold as I will be doing the same job on my Mondial 8 this weekend (depending on weather - I'm not as hard-core as you!). Did you have to remove the dipstick tube to get the manifold out?
Oh dear, that poor old Ferrai, welcome to the rust club mate, its just like my MR2 I'm currently restoring, loads and loads of rust! Anyway good luck, also best check around for more hidden rust
Degreasers are nice, but $100-150 should buy you a good home steam cleaner. Marvelous job of cleaning, no chemicals needed. Once you try it, you'll wonder why do didn't get one 20 years ago.
Hi Scott don't stress. Give Sam C a call he's a dab hand at 'fixing' panels will aluminium, bondo, and pop rivet. Get him on Zoom and show him how to do it the British way........ properly!!!!! . I agree with the other comments. Get the engine out and clean the whole lot up and get a new panel fabed and welded in. Don't mix aluminium with steel unless you want more corrosion.
Send your starter away to West Lancs Auto Electrics for a rebuild. It will come back brand new in a few days for a fraction of the cost. They are mustard for starters and alternators.
Looking at the amount of work you've done so far, the engine doesn't look like it's a million miles from coming out, if it was out you could properly refurb the entire engine bay, put new belts on fit the starer and the manifolds, eevrything then, when it was all back it would look fantastic. Good luck whatever.
ANOTHER Ferrari that got lucky that you found it. Previous owner neglect is a sad thing. Now its in good hands and even if you had to fabricate that part, its only a cover as opposed to the frame as you pointed-out.
The only bloke I know to do car work in sandals. 😂 That’s unfortunate about the rust. If there’s anyone I know who can fix it though, it would be you! 👍🏻
Is that insulation in the boot floor original? It looks like loft insulation, it’s probably been soaking up moisture over the years. Might be time to find a more modern solution
Ah man that sucks, the demon rust. Should be able to get a panel fabricated pretty easy. Have you tried carparts4less for a recon starter? Also few places on internet that supply recon ones instead of having to buy brand new.
2:32 I dont know what's weirder, that music, or the fact that I know that music, and yeah I know that stuff you found around the trunk, that's 1970's House Insulation, its the kind of stuff that's in my roof that needs to be redone, and if this was pooling, and this is the bottom to the floor of the trunk, or around it you gonna need to change the rubber around the latch and make sure the drain holes arent plugged around the seal, as that looks like the outter skin that goes around it. or even SEE if their is any drain hole, as I know that on american cars alot of the time why they rusted out is because their was no drainholes and the water just pooled, or they were just flat out ineffective hence why cowl replacements are common and well known on most 1960's and 70's muscle cars.
£1000 for a starter motor ??? The only bit that's usually unique is the alloy nose of a starter to fit that cars engine, this gives it a unique part number. Everything else and the working bits will be generic stuff and cheap I'll bet. Check Wood Auto for all the starter bits. Oh yeah, 512 ????
2.54 "I'm working on the Ferrari next door...you're always complaining....try these...." Be careful: Councils must look into complaints about noise that could be a 'statutory nuisance' (covered by the Environmental Protection Act 1990). For the noise to count as a statutory nuisance it must do one of the following: unreasonably and substantially interfere with the use or enjoyment of a home or other premises.
come on Scott you can make a panel for the boot floor surely... not one that costs £££ ferrari tax :(( thanks for the lockdown vid anyway i'm looking forward to more 308 vids' and at least you fixed the Starter problem :))
Hey thats not a factory panel, but hey they did a nice job! Good with me. love to see if the interwebs provideth though, Dont forget what the heck is with that starter wiring. is there a missing heat shield or somthing . or looming for that pigtail or a quick disconect harness.
I know the "restore a Ferrari on a shoe-string" is part of the appeal but I do take issue with the way you work. The place is a tip, the cars are filthy, you're creating pollution with the degreasing solvents and there's no protective workwear for you. You can obviously do as you please but it sets a bad example. Working on a car in flip flops is bad news, at least you use axle stands. As for the general noise and disruption you cause, your neighbours must love you!
@@hrep14 good point, should replace it with a modern sound deadening/heat resistant material, like the adhesive rolls of stuff you can get. No worries then moving forward
imagine what this guy could do with a proper shop. keep up the good work
Can't agree more, if he just sold one and invested in a garage.
But this is a TH-cam show. The Tavarish factor in this theatre is not to be overlooked. He isn't someone I would pay to work on my car, Ferrari or not. Much like Tavarish his lack of knowledge and 'how hard can it be?' is what makes good viewing. In fact the worse it gets the better it will be for his channel.
Oh' he does just fine mow. Go back and look at his troubleshoot/repair of car not going into gear.
He’d have to wear steel toecap flip flops if he had a proper shop.
That yellow insulation looks like house insulation. That material hold water like a sponge. Whoever stuffed it in did more rust damage than one can imagine.
You are not wrong there ...I've been filming the next part today and yes it was soaked
I've owned similar a similar vintage 308 and a Mondial … I believe the fibreglass type of matting was factory. When I restored the Mondal it was soaked, leaking boot rubber. Fortunately for me there was only surface rust!
Instead of replacement with the same thing look at dynamat and silent coat they sound proofing materials which will deal with heat better and do not absorb water and provide much better sound vibration isolation
This is the stuff of my nightmares. I’m currently restoring my to-be daily (in my driveway and on axle stands as well) and I thought it was going to be an easy project, just a few parts to replace. That was until I removed the wheels and brake disks; the amount of rust took me by surprise and so far I’ve spent more time and money on rusty parts than anything else.
Getting an original part from Ferrari might appease the purists but upgrades in these situations aren’t uncommon. Given it’s a simple flat surface, I would suggest you fabricate something out of aluminium to avoid this kind of rust in the future.
Easier if you remove the engine with sub-frame out - and while its out you remove the over-spray and aesthetically restore the engine (clean and paint pulleys, tidy up all the hoses, cables and clamps, etc.)
Would definitely be worth doing this
You know it's one thing to tackle some of the things you do anyway but to do them on your drive with axle stands I take my hat off to you. You're an inspiration!
And flip-flops on 😂
Really enjoyed today’s video. Sorry to see the rust, but looking forward to seeing your fix. 👍
No wonder your neighbours complain about noise, they drive a vacuum cleaner 😂
Unbelievable you work on these cars on your driveway. Good effort for doing this work yourself. The Ferrari’s looks to be well engineered, which surprises me.
Another great video. It always rains when working outside, just to remind us we need a bigger garage! Just got a Rode Go mic myself and keen to try it out too. Cheers
You might think of making your own panel and gluing it in place with the 3M body adhesive and sheet metal screws. After the adhesive cures you remove the screws and fill the holes with more adhesive. I installed new rear quarter panels on my 1966 Galaxie and it worked very well.
I love that red UK public toilet that you have in your garden. Probably not many left in operation these days. There were plenty around when I was growing up in London in the 60's.
Its interesting how bad some of the welds are old ferraris, they look very home made, even right up to the testarossa they are pretty rough. The rust panel should be reasonable easy to fab if you can't find an original. Keep up the good work.
Awesome content Scott and your 'can do' attitude is definitely a winner!!! Struggling with my Porsche 930 at the moment and taking inspiration from your work with the 308. Keep it going mate!!
great video, goodluck with the Rustarossa! 🔧👍
Damn i thought i was going to be first with that one
Amazing you can still stay upbeat ! Well done on trying to fight through!👍🇨🇦
You have so much patience, great video 👍
5:30 - You know what works well here on the ground? Those foam EVA mats. I have a bunch of them and they make working on the ground a delight. They are cheap too.
Coming along nicely, great work!👍
Like a BOSS, working on car in flip flops
Love the channel, videos have improved massively! But just tooo many AD’S.
Take measurements an a drawing, Go down to your local metal fabricators and get them to make a cover, easy job for them. Fit it yourself with self tappers or body panel adhesive, just remember to red oxide it. Do not underseal it, its worst thing ever made by man. Keep going buddy you doing a great job, love your vids.
That starter motor looks like the one on my old Guzzi (about 60 quid). If you're going for old Italian vehicles, I'd recommend bikes - everything sticks out at you!
As for the starter motor, if you're lucky you can find an auto electricians workshop nearby- they can re-furbish the starter motor at a fraction of the cost of a new starter.
Hi scott, never nice finding
Pockets of rust. Not too bad
Though. Bet it looks as good as
Original, when you've finished.
Like the channel dude 👍
Thanks for the great video this was one of your best, that rust will be simple compared to what you have in front of you with the rest of the car and wiring. Looking forward to your next video.
Ah, memories of Edd China having the same fun removing that forward manifold. Fuel tank out along with a few other bits. A fun days work though :)
Gives me hope.........thankyou!
I thought I had problems with one of my fleet, but that rust, omg, horrible. It will get repaired, I know that, I would have been beyond daunted. Good luck
How can 22 people down vote this video? Some of the most informative work illustrated on a 308 that was not previously cared for.
I made these panels a while back. I can send you the drawings, mine was just the same, it is not that bad as it looks;-) send me a pm if you need info.
That would be great. Could you ping me scott@ratarossa.com would love to see the drawings
@@Ratarossa done 😉
This is what the internet does well.
Just wondering if stainless or aluminum would be better than sheet metal ? What did you use ?
@@1SECRETBILLY it has to deal with a lot of potentional heat. Aluminium was no option. The parts are welded on the frame (in my case), so we used sheet metal.
Great work Scot . Very interesting . ( please ditch the background musak too distracting )
OMG Scott.
How on earth did this 308 ever get through an M.O.T.......?
With all that underbody rot and rust.
Really hope to see this amazing build back up to pristine condition one day.
Beat regards
From Australia 🇦🇺
Wouldn’t it be easier to pull motor out with all that rust there’s nothing to dropping out that motor then clean motor up and paint it up
Great video. You are so positive! Keep up the great (hard) work
Commiserarions on finding the rust Scott - at least access is ok with exhaust removed but still a pain to fix no doubt. Interested to see you removing the front manifold as I will be doing the same job on my Mondial 8 this weekend (depending on weather - I'm not as hard-core as you!). Did you have to remove the dipstick tube to get the manifold out?
Fun video.. I cant believe you got that front header off in that tight area..
Seems to me this 308 found the right new owner, look forward to seeing it back in the shape it deserves and driving with no issues again.
Great video as always. A bit of a task you have though with that rear floor. Good luck and looking forward to the next one.
Scott, the August edition of Octane magazine runs an article on the Testarossa Spider built for Fiat boss Gianni Agnelli. Might be of interest to you.
Oh dear, that poor old Ferrai, welcome to the rust club mate, its just like my MR2 I'm currently restoring, loads and loads of rust! Anyway good luck, also best check around for more hidden rust
Degreasers are nice, but $100-150 should buy you a good home steam cleaner. Marvelous job of cleaning, no chemicals needed. Once you try it, you'll wonder why do didn't get one 20 years ago.
The Kove website doesn't seem to work properly, just one set of earphones saying sold out.
Good work! I really enjoy your videos. I’d like to see someone take a 308 to an extreme lightweight build for ultimate power to weight.
Your headphone sponsor wants a website that works, with some products on!!!
Yup! I tried the link and typing it in directly... nothing to sell!
Me too. Just some very expensive earphones at $149.99 which are sold
Only works on US site but they do ship quite cheaply
@@pebsham so whats the point of him talking about them .if we cant buy these in the uk .anything for a back hander of cash .so he can fix a car
I would be waking some ACF50 all over that engine bay and underside of the car when you have completed the work .. keep it going 👍
You should do a video on how you came to all this knowledge to work on Ferrari’s
I enjoy watching these, but given that I've spent lock down working on my VX220, I'd rather you be doing this work than me.
More content please. Thanks m8
Hi Scott don't stress. Give Sam C a call he's a dab hand at 'fixing' panels will aluminium, bondo, and pop rivet. Get him on Zoom and show him how to do it the British way........ properly!!!!! . I agree with the other comments. Get the engine out and clean the whole lot up and get a new panel fabed and welded in. Don't mix aluminium with steel unless you want more corrosion.
Cheers Scott loving the “safety sliders” when removing that back box 🚒👍
Will you do the fabrication and metalwork yourself Scott? The welding too?
Send your starter away to West Lancs Auto Electrics for a rebuild. It will come back brand new in a few days for a fraction of the cost. They are mustard for starters and alternators.
Looking at the amount of work you've done so far, the engine doesn't look like it's a million miles from coming out, if it was out you could properly refurb the entire engine bay, put new belts on fit the starer and the manifolds, eevrything then, when it was all back it would look fantastic. Good luck whatever.
I would make that panel with approx 2mm aluminium sheet and bond it in place with structural adhesive.
Incoming thousand questions about the 512 , brace yourself 😁
LOL im ready
Scott, you are a genius!
F me, if that was mine and I discovered that much rust I think I would have chucked the towel in! Impressive perseverance 👌
Yo great to see you again,weve missed your vids,cant wait till the next one,nice n easy..!! :)
Loved the acting in the ad😂👏🏾
A nice rusty flat panel with no curves and bends? I say thats a plus.. Can make a custom panel in there and make it look really nice.
never seen someone work on a car in flip flops and wearing sunglasses..
My thoughts as well..
ANOTHER Ferrari that got lucky that you found it. Previous owner neglect is a sad thing. Now its in good hands and even if you had to fabricate that part, its only a cover as opposed to the frame as you pointed-out.
I watched the brilliant Ed China change the exhaust on a 308 gt4 Dino on Wheeler Dealers ha ha ha difficult like yours Scott...
Cloudy weather - shades.
However they sorta match plugging stuff
The only bloke I know to do car work in sandals. 😂
That’s unfortunate about the rust. If there’s anyone I know who can fix it though, it would be you! 👍🏻
Is that insulation in the boot floor original? It looks like loft insulation, it’s probably been soaking up moisture over the years. Might be time to find a more modern solution
Ah man that sucks, the demon rust. Should be able to get a panel fabricated pretty easy. Have you tried carparts4less for a recon starter? Also few places on internet that supply recon ones instead of having to buy brand new.
Another great example of perseverance with a purpose! 👍🏻 @17:38 one of the rear manifold studs looks sheared off. Can you fix that in situ?
I hope they're safety flip-flops you're wearing ?😊 . Keep up the good work.
I'm sorry for you, but I'm happy for the extra work content :D
The TV show Wheeler dealer with Ed China did this on a 308 series 6 episode 36 cheers.
2:32 I dont know what's weirder, that music, or the fact that I know that music, and yeah I know that stuff you found around the trunk, that's 1970's House Insulation, its the kind of stuff that's in my roof that needs to be redone, and if this was pooling, and this is the bottom to the floor of the trunk, or around it you gonna need to change the rubber around the latch and make sure the drain holes arent plugged around the seal, as that looks like the outter skin that goes around it.
or even SEE if their is any drain hole, as I know that on american cars alot of the time why they rusted out is because their was no drainholes and the water just pooled, or they were just flat out ineffective
hence why cowl replacements are common and well known on most 1960's and 70's muscle cars.
Very nice steel-toecapped flip-flops.
£1000 for a starter motor ??? The only bit that's usually unique is the alloy nose of a starter to fit that cars engine, this gives it a unique part number. Everything else and the working bits will be generic stuff and cheap I'll bet. Check Wood Auto for all the starter bits.
Oh yeah, 512 ????
I hope those sandals are HSE approved. LOL.
I winced when I saw that muffler headed to your feet.
I thought you guys might .... i was prepared for it falling
Check out the Goonzquad boys they luv rocking the “flops” around the garage! 🤪
@@Ratarossa what happened to the puma work gear
2.54 "I'm working on the Ferrari next door...you're always complaining....try these...." Be careful: Councils must look into complaints about noise that could be a 'statutory nuisance' (covered by the Environmental Protection Act 1990). For the noise to count as a statutory nuisance it must do one of the following: unreasonably and substantially interfere with the use or enjoyment of a home or other premises.
aweaome work... love to see your videos...
(your sponsor link doesn't work... it only shows a set of earphones)
Quick question. Why do the new headers don’t have heat shielding?
Do you think it would be good to wrap them in heat wrap?
First call for sheet metal - Ferrparts! (Which I'm sure you already have done, lol)
What did you use to clean the engine and transmission? Looks beautiful!
Love your positive attitude dude..........makes me wanna buy some Kove Audio Noise Canceling Headphones! Hmmmm.....
Wow at least not structural great work Scott
Scott- can you weld? That repair panel needs to be welded in place.
John Matthews yes a little. I’ve been back at college learning pre lockdown
7:05 bloody hell looks like afterbirth
Modern shop floors are liquid tight for a reason... Are you allowed to do this sort of thing in the UK on your driveway?
Real nightmare but you won!
Why not remove the engine ??? Get access to all the rusty stuff plus all the other horrors awaiting love this guy patience of a saint
How about the panel from the silver 308 u had in a earlier vid in the garage.
come on Scott you can make a panel for the boot floor surely... not one that costs £££ ferrari tax :(( thanks for the lockdown vid anyway i'm looking forward to more 308 vids' and at least you fixed the Starter problem :))
You’re optimistic, hoping Ferrari would have that floor panel.
Hey thats not a factory panel, but hey they did a nice job! Good with me. love to see if the interwebs provideth though, Dont forget what the heck is with that starter wiring. is there a missing heat shield or somthing . or looming for that pigtail or a quick disconect harness.
Working with a little ‘ramp’ would be more comfortable. Goodluck!
I know the "restore a Ferrari on a shoe-string" is part of the appeal but I do take issue with the way you work. The place is a tip, the cars are filthy, you're creating pollution with the degreasing solvents and there's no protective workwear for you. You can obviously do as you please but it sets a bad example. Working on a car in flip flops is bad news, at least you use axle stands. As for the general noise and disruption you cause, your neighbours must love you!
Good job!
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that looked alarming, but you have already made excellent progress :)
Result with that starter moter😎
Your girlfriend must be very understanding, I'm jealous!!
Well... she *does* get to say that her boyfriend owns *6!* Ferrari's!! 😎😂
looks like water was lying in there for quite a while.
classic old car problem when rainwater sits in a leaky trunk/boot
That insulation above it holds water it shouldn’t be there.
@@hrep14 good point, should replace it with a modern sound deadening/heat resistant material, like the adhesive rolls of stuff you can get. No worries then moving forward
Leaked in from the hatch, from sitting outside in rain, old weatherstripping
Look into ferrparts.com. May find some parts needed. Keep up the great work.