the real issue with the reunion is that the contestants havent watched the show back and they dont even realize all the smack ppl have been talking abt them in confessionals. or times ppl lied to their face.
It was always a fun moment from the old reunion show when you would see contestants being confronted with fan feedback and having to justify certain things. With the modern format you really don't get that.
My biggest problem is the double tribal post-merge. Everyone plays safe until the double tribal is over because players are scared of burning their bridges and ending up in a new group of enemies. The past 3 merge / mergatory tribals have been a dogpile on Moriah, Kaleb and Josh because now the casts know this twist is a staple as opposed to Island of the idols / 41 / 42 when they didn't know it was going to be in their season.
One thing that was missed that I believe is a MAJOR issue: Bhanu was never voted out. The third tribal council vote was completely skipped. You could argue that it was a foregone conclusion Bhanu was going and so it doesn’t matter however this is a MAJOR red flag and a horrible precedent to set. What this did is strip all agency from the remaining players of Tiff, Kenzie, and Q. We saw Tiff & Q toss around the idea of blindsiding Kenzie an episode prior, what if they actually were to want to do it and to accomplish that would have to act as if Bhanu is dead in the water. With Jeff/production skipping the vote, this removes the decision making from the players and could cause issues down the line. For instance: lets say there’s a similar situation in an upcoming season. A losing tribe has a seemingly obvious vote out where everyone seems to agree including the said person going home, so of course they would expect a Bhanu situation where the vote is skipped. However what if those in the majority decide they actually DO want to carry out a blindside of a different target? The player who is the alleged obvious boot and the player who is the actual target would go in potentially expecting the vote being skipped because “it’s so obvious it’s this person” but then, the vote isn’t skipped at all. Would that not tip them off that there’s more to the story that they could be left in the dark about? What if one of these players has an idol? What if the tribe does want to forgo the vote but the obvious boot, the “Bhanu” in this scenario, is holding an idol, would that then tip off the rest of the tribe that there’s more factors in play that they aren’t aware of, and thus in reaction to the vote not being skipped could that affect their gameplay? Maybe they’d switch the target then. There’s so many different scenarios that production has now left the door open to, I think them deciding to skip the vote was a horrible decision that provided nothing but the potential for more issues down the line and shows an overall lack of care towards the game so many of us love. This is of course not referring to the exceptions where a player was removed from the game for inappropriate behavior (V*rner/Brandon Hantz/D*n Sp*lo)
It’s definitely a slippery slope kinda deal, Jeff claimed the reason was due to there legitimately not being any other plans If they don’t skip the vote in the future, any player that saw that exit press is going to be aware that an alternate plan is at least being considered It wasn’t aired this season but apparently during Hunter’s elimination, he called out the fact that if they were all gonna vote out Q then they shouldn’t need to vote(more akin to Tori’s elimination but the point still stands), Venus and Tiffany were insistent on voting tipping Hunter off further that he was the target Of course he didn’t play his idol but he had planned for a different split then the one implemented, but it still is gonna be a major red flag raiser in the future
I'll chat about this soon but I agree. I think it's a real slippery slope if Jeff can just decide when a tribal is boring and auto-eliminate contestants on the show.
I appreciate that you actually take the time to think about your criticisms and say specifically WHY you dislike a twist - I think sometimes people complain about twists because they're simply unpopular
The merge feast used to be a checkpoint for all and now people can't participate in it. It also means if you're really unlucky you can actually go 26 full days without food which is very dangerous.
My biggest hot take about firemaking is that I don’t want a final 3 with a regular final 4 vote Bring back final 2’s, it puts alliances substantially more at risk by not allowing big groups of 4 to coast to the end of the game. One thing I do notice about final 2’s is that it lends itself to helping more physically oriented players who have more say in there final opponent
Agreed, for those complaining about all these bad jury vote results a Final 2 is the best "fix" to that, as it makes the strategic and physical components more important in the endgame, as you only need to get to the end with 1 person you can "beat" socially rather than 2.
I think Sophie's idea of making idols usable up until the final 6 is a good idea. But it would also be advantageous having a final 2 also. Right now someone can idol at 5 and win fire at 4 then get to 3 and win the game.
@@BanditSurvivorContent yes I really dislike how you can just advantage your way to the firemaking challenge, the whole point of idols expiring at 5 was that you’d still have 1 round, the final 4 where you need to rely on yourself winning immunity or getting the votes to stay
I hate the rice twist because you’re asking almost half the cast to sit out of a challenge and all the possibilities of who could win immunity go out the window. I miss when they’d temp them midway through the immunity challenge with food, but make a rule that they could only continue to eat until the challenge was over. That way you tempt the people who haven’t been on rewards, but you also don’t make a large number of people sit out right at the top of the challenge.
I think this is a very good point. It's clear the rice dilemma is meant to be the modern replacement for the "temptations" twist but is far less entertaining imo.
I think the best way to show the path of a social winner is to show people saying positive things about them or defending them, as opposed to them getting an absurd amount of screen time.
I don’t advocate survivor discriminating against people with disabilities. But I feel like casting Liz and Ben was a mistake. They were so hungry/sleep deprived that they probably couldn’t think clearly and couldn’t compete as well as others. It’s like their medical condition becomes a big part of their personality and story arc
Hunger and sleep deprivation is a factor for everyone. Jess has said she suffered in the game due to this. But there’s also other things like age, obesity. They have to pass a physical but survivor I think is more brutal than most realize. Some challenges are super dangerous and one day someone might die, hopefully not but it happpens like like in sports.
For as irritating as that got, he didn’t overstay his welcome until about episode 4, his episode 3 stint was definitely weird but it was not out of the ordinary All in all, I don’t think he can be considered a serious problem with season 46 if only due to the fact that he’s not in like 8 episodes, and I didn’t have a problem with him for half the episodes he was in
This seems to be a superficial point, but then you consider that a lot of Kenzie's hardcore twitter stans heaped praise on her for multiple island fashion improvisations (a pal frond scruchie and a buff bow being the most memorable) it's kinda sad that the stylist on the cast couldn't rest a day or two and get dolled up like her equally gorgeous cast mates. Functionally and legally so little changes between the old and new seasons so if a player could hold their vote secret for months, why not expect them to do so for a day or two? Also concerning Charlie and a months later live reunion. It seems like he was newly jarred by the edit in his exit press, although not explicitly stated. I'm sure he would have had some self control at a later reunion, whatever we got is maybe more authentic to production, but I agree it was awkward and painful.
Exactly. Even a day would help refresh their minds a lot and overall make the reunion a lot more smoother. It sucks that it happens at night when everyone is exhausted and all the adrenaline is gone.
Modern survivor has become a parody of itself. Take away actual social situations like bigger tribes, merge vote, and final 4 and replace it with production designed things to force the game in certain directions - journeys, sweat v savvy, twists, earn the merge, fire making, etc. go back to basics. 2 tribes, swap or two, merge at 10, no fire making. Let the players play
30 minute video let’s gooo! The twists have gotten EXTREMELY stale, the double tribal is EXPECTED at this point, it has appeared in every new era season and players play it safe until it’s out the way Mergatory sucks, the merge boot literally has to win a team challenge which dramatically lower the chances of the obvious vote saving themselves, just let the cast actually merge when you say merge, if you want the true individual game to begin at final 10 then merge at final 10 The pre-merge forced vote risking journeys are annoying, when people can’t vote tribal gets a lot less interesting: Q wants to keep Bhanu in the game but since Nami chose Bhanu for the journey there is nothing they can do since Bhanu was forced to lose his vote for an advantage he didn’t even want
@@BanditSurvivorContent Ey love your content Bandit, and thx for the reply New Era Survivor seems to pride itself on its complexity but it seems to harm the actual gameplay when you’re forced into teams for 3/4 immunity challenges when it’s supposed to be an individual game
I hate Hate HATE the final 4 fire making!!! at this point they’re just keeping it because they don’t want it to seem that it was really only introduced in HHH it to save Ben. It’s boring and does nothing to enhance the social game that Survivor is supposed to be! And don’t even get me started on the “reunion”. What an f’ing joke…
I think individually immunity should be one part of the game that doesn't rely on your social game. Having other players be allowed to help each other defeats that purpose.
This season it was more of a byproduct of the repeated format. They knew it was the last chance to definitely get Maria. The format needs to be changed up from time to time to prevent metagaming, whether it’s by having a final two or removing the forced firemaking all together for a few seasons. Survivor was at its peak when the format kept changing so contestants didn’t know what to plan for.
Biggest problem with this season was it felt really toxic and mean spirited at times. The promos bordered on being a trashy MTV fight show. And don’t even get me started on the nonsense on social media.
Yeah it’s gotten a bit ridiculous. I saw a comment saying that Liz was in their top 3 least favorite players of all time, along with Mike Skupin and Dan Spilo. Someone then replied saying how horrible it is to group her with those two, and below many other players (such as Colton and Varner) who are pretty much objectively worse. Then the OP doubled down and said something like “Well that’s just my opinion, not yours”
@@TheOscar401 It’s probably the same people who were whining about kUmBaYa (which is an asinine complaint, imagine being angry that people are being nice) that are now harassing the contestants online. It’s because they thrive on misery and negativity.
People complain about the show being too soft now. People also complain when people fight and it gets negative. No offense to you personally but I’m starting to think that the main issue with this show is the fanbase. Earlier seasons have been MUCH more negative than this one. Sometimes people fight. Sometimes people don’t like each other. That’s just life babe
@@jaykay1899 right on the money. The fanbase is 100% the biggest issue. I like the seasons where everyone is nice, and the fact that that’s an unpopular opinion is very strange.
I think Survivor owes Maria some money. I think she could’ve won the challenge where Liz helped Kenzie and thus could make an argument that it changed the trajectory of the game. Lex was able to argue that in Africa when he got the answer right to the question about tattoos and production had the answer wrong. They gave him $100,000 for that error.
I’m annoyed at the fan reaction to Maria’s vote for Kenzie as one of bitterness By all accounts her voting for her #1 ally just because they were close all game would be an entirely emotional vote, you don’t ever have locked in votes, Debbie and Aubry, Victoria and Gavin I don’t really care for the idea of Charlie as a winner but diminishing Kenzie because of a “bitter jury” is just a rehash of Natalie White from way back when, maybe Charlie could have faked more of an effort to keep Maria in the game, jury management is the #1 skill in every season of Survivor
I will always defend the winner of every season but let's not act like Maria's vote wasn't pure bitterness. It was very clearly a vote out of bitterness. She's a juror and it's her vote so it's fair, but it was without a doubt a vote against Charlie rather than for Kenzie. It's just weird. Charlie really didn't wrong Maria in any way
@@tmm4195 how was it clearly a vote of bitterness? Charlie was one of 4 votes against her that also included Kenzie Kenzie was by all accounts as guilty of Maria’s elimination, maybe she just didn’t care for his game, or Kenzie’s plan for the money resonated with her more as a parent herself
@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf Well I would believe that if she said Kenzie’s story resonated with her or she saw herself in Kenzie but her only excuse was “the fire in her eyes when making fire” which is so fake it’s laughable. Maria was shown to have an ego and she went into ftc with the mentality that “if I can’t win then my number 1 ally can’t win either”. I can’t make you believe that she was bitter. You can believe what you want, but I mean it’s pretty obvious she was bitter. Like it was the most bitter jury vote we’ve had in a long time lol
@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf She was bitter that Charlie was in the F3 and she was not. She was jealous that she felt they had played together and that he benefited from their partnership. She has a gigantic ego that refused to let him win if she could not. How is it not obvious to you based on her actions all season? Have you not listened to the exit press about what happened at Ponderosa, etc.
@@debbiemccune1952I never really saw the ego that other commenters have claimed to seen, overall if she was that visibly bitter than Charlie is an idiot for not handling her vote out with more tact If she will not vote for you, then you need to get the votes elsewhere, he only got 3 other votes and there were other avenues to get the rest of the votes he needed
Honestly, for me the bad thing for me about the Bhanu stuff and Kenzie being shown helping Ben is that we were literally shown Kenzie being incredibly negative and shitting on and mocking Bhanu for having legitimate mental health and anxiety issues for the entire pre-mergeatory, making her seemingly caring about Ben come across as incredibly hypocritical.
How was Bhanu having “serious mental issues”? He literally told 2 other tribes that Kenzie was the mastermind of Yanu Truth be told anyone should be phased off about that, Ben only wrote her name down once, while Bhanu could have destroyed her entire game of his own volition
@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf Did you not see him having multiple mental breakdowns and anxiety attacks? Because those were put front and center, so I don't know how you could've missed those.
I agree 100%. It was all editing post merge to try and make Kenzie look like she had a good social game. Who loved her? Who was shown saying she was such a great person other than Ben? Meanwhile we did see post merge confessionals (Tevin, Soda, Venus, etc.) praising Charlie's trustworthiness/talking about wanting to work with him. As mentioned in this video, Ben was shocked that they only showed Kenzie helping him with his night terrors because Charlie helped him equally. Ben said his bromance with Charlie was only highlighted premerge but vanished from the edit post merge. (We know why!!!) Jess was also treated badly by mean girls Kenzie/Tiff. Jess said in exit press that only Bhanu was humane to her.
@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf Saying Kenzie was a mastermind when she just did whatever Tiff/Q told her to do shows how out of touch Bhanu was! Kenzie would have been voted out if Randon was not medically evacuated. They even showed Kenzie trying to get Jess & Bhanu on board to take out Q, but they were not interested in working with Kenzie...and her actions were run back to Tiff/Q.
@debbiemccune1952 Remember that tribal council earlier in the season when everyone clapped for Kenzie literally saying how she was a good person. Everybody DID love her. I love how you’re claiming it was all edited to make it seem that way when you literally weren’t even there and have no idea what the truth is. You’re just projecting your own opinions onto the show
I just thought of an interesting Advantage idea: "The Forced Fire Advantage". This Advantage would still allow 1 Fire Making Challenge at Tribal, but the Advantage of it would be, when you play it, The person with the Advantage names 1 player to compete in a Fire Making Challenge at that tribal, the other person will be selected thru a Rock Draw. Odd Colored Rock competes. Loser goes home. If played, then Final 4 becomes a vote, if it is never played, Final 4 defaults to a Fire Making Challenge. This could be such a swing in momentum.
Or they could just do what the fans want. Have only 1 idol per tribe as the only twists. Go back to season 20 format and if that doesn’t work then accept that the show has run its course.
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the real issue with the reunion is that the contestants havent watched the show back and they dont even realize all the smack ppl have been talking abt them in confessionals. or times ppl lied to their face.
It was always a fun moment from the old reunion show when you would see contestants being confronted with fan feedback and having to justify certain things. With the modern format you really don't get that.
I need the live reunion show back! I’m so tired of on the island reunion!
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My biggest problem is the double tribal post-merge. Everyone plays safe until the double tribal is over because players are scared of burning their bridges and ending up in a new group of enemies. The past 3 merge / mergatory tribals have been a dogpile on Moriah, Kaleb and Josh because now the casts know this twist is a staple as opposed to Island of the idols / 41 / 42 when they didn't know it was going to be in their season.
One thing that was missed that I believe is a MAJOR issue:
Bhanu was never voted out. The third tribal council vote was completely skipped. You could argue that it was a foregone conclusion Bhanu was going and so it doesn’t matter however this is a MAJOR red flag and a horrible precedent to set. What this did is strip all agency from the remaining players of Tiff, Kenzie, and Q. We saw Tiff & Q toss around the idea of blindsiding Kenzie an episode prior, what if they actually were to want to do it and to accomplish that would have to act as if Bhanu is dead in the water. With Jeff/production skipping the vote, this removes the decision making from the players and could cause issues down the line.
For instance: lets say there’s a similar situation in an upcoming season. A losing tribe has a seemingly obvious vote out where everyone seems to agree including the said person going home, so of course they would expect a Bhanu situation where the vote is skipped. However what if those in the majority decide they actually DO want to carry out a blindside of a different target? The player who is the alleged obvious boot and the player who is the actual target would go in potentially expecting the vote being skipped because “it’s so obvious it’s this person” but then, the vote isn’t skipped at all. Would that not tip them off that there’s more to the story that they could be left in the dark about? What if one of these players has an idol? What if the tribe does want to forgo the vote but the obvious boot, the “Bhanu” in this scenario, is holding an idol, would that then tip off the rest of the tribe that there’s more factors in play that they aren’t aware of, and thus in reaction to the vote not being skipped could that affect their gameplay? Maybe they’d switch the target then.
There’s so many different scenarios that production has now left the door open to, I think them deciding to skip the vote was a horrible decision that provided nothing but the potential for more issues down the line and shows an overall lack of care towards the game so many of us love.
This is of course not referring to the exceptions where a player was removed from the game for inappropriate behavior (V*rner/Brandon Hantz/D*n Sp*lo)
It’s definitely a slippery slope kinda deal, Jeff claimed the reason was due to there legitimately not being any other plans
If they don’t skip the vote in the future, any player that saw that exit press is going to be aware that an alternate plan is at least being considered
It wasn’t aired this season but apparently during Hunter’s elimination, he called out the fact that if they were all gonna vote out Q then they shouldn’t need to vote(more akin to Tori’s elimination but the point still stands), Venus and Tiffany were insistent on voting tipping Hunter off further that he was the target
Of course he didn’t play his idol but he had planned for a different split then the one implemented, but it still is gonna be a major red flag raiser in the future
I'll chat about this soon but I agree. I think it's a real slippery slope if Jeff can just decide when a tribal is boring and auto-eliminate contestants on the show.
I appreciate that you actually take the time to think about your criticisms and say specifically WHY you dislike a twist - I think sometimes people complain about twists because they're simply unpopular
Thank you that means a lot dude ❤️
i wish everybody could participate in the merge feast. it used to be such a great time of celebration
The merge feast used to be a checkpoint for all and now people can't participate in it. It also means if you're really unlucky you can actually go 26 full days without food which is very dangerous.
My biggest hot take about firemaking is that I don’t want a final 3 with a regular final 4 vote
Bring back final 2’s, it puts alliances substantially more at risk by not allowing big groups of 4 to coast to the end of the game.
One thing I do notice about final 2’s is that it lends itself to helping more physically oriented players who have more say in there final opponent
Agreed, for those complaining about all these bad jury vote results a Final 2 is the best "fix" to that, as it makes the strategic and physical components more important in the endgame, as you only need to get to the end with 1 person you can "beat" socially rather than 2.
I think Sophie's idea of making idols usable up until the final 6 is a good idea. But it would also be advantageous having a final 2 also. Right now someone can idol at 5 and win fire at 4 then get to 3 and win the game.
@@BanditSurvivorContent yes I really dislike how you can just advantage your way to the firemaking challenge, the whole point of idols expiring at 5 was that you’d still have 1 round, the final 4 where you need to rely on yourself winning immunity or getting the votes to stay
I hate the rice twist because you’re asking almost half the cast to sit out of a challenge and all the possibilities of who could win immunity go out the window. I miss when they’d temp them midway through the immunity challenge with food, but make a rule that they could only continue to eat until the challenge was over. That way you tempt the people who haven’t been on rewards, but you also don’t make a large number of people sit out right at the top of the challenge.
I think this is a very good point. It's clear the rice dilemma is meant to be the modern replacement for the "temptations" twist but is far less entertaining imo.
I think the best way to show the path of a social winner is to show people saying positive things about them or defending them, as opposed to them getting an absurd amount of screen time.
I don’t advocate survivor discriminating against people with disabilities. But I feel like casting Liz and Ben was a mistake. They were so hungry/sleep deprived that they probably couldn’t think clearly and couldn’t compete as well as others. It’s like their medical condition becomes a big part of their personality and story arc
Hunger and sleep deprivation is a factor for everyone. Jess has said she suffered in the game due to this. But there’s also other things like age, obesity. They have to pass a physical but survivor I think is more brutal than most realize. Some challenges are super dangerous and one day someone might die, hopefully not but it happpens like like in sports.
I was expecting 25 mimutes of Banu
For as irritating as that got, he didn’t overstay his welcome until about episode 4, his episode 3 stint was definitely weird but it was not out of the ordinary
All in all, I don’t think he can be considered a serious problem with season 46 if only due to the fact that he’s not in like 8 episodes, and I didn’t have a problem with him for half the episodes he was in
This seems to be a superficial point, but then you consider that a lot of Kenzie's hardcore twitter stans heaped praise on her for multiple island fashion improvisations (a pal frond scruchie and a buff bow being the most memorable) it's kinda sad that the stylist on the cast couldn't rest a day or two and get dolled up like her equally gorgeous cast mates. Functionally and legally so little changes between the old and new seasons so if a player could hold their vote secret for months, why not expect them to do so for a day or two?
Also concerning Charlie and a months later live reunion. It seems like he was newly jarred by the edit in his exit press, although not explicitly stated. I'm sure he would have had some self control at a later reunion, whatever we got is maybe more authentic to production, but I agree it was awkward and painful.
Exactly. Even a day would help refresh their minds a lot and overall make the reunion a lot more smoother. It sucks that it happens at night when everyone is exhausted and all the adrenaline is gone.
Modern survivor has become a parody of itself. Take away actual social situations like bigger tribes, merge vote, and final 4 and replace it with production designed things to force the game in certain directions - journeys, sweat v savvy, twists, earn the merge, fire making, etc. go back to basics. 2 tribes, swap or two, merge at 10, no fire making. Let the players play
30 minute video let’s gooo!
The twists have gotten EXTREMELY stale, the double tribal is EXPECTED at this point, it has appeared in every new era season and players play it safe until it’s out the way
Mergatory sucks, the merge boot literally has to win a team challenge which dramatically lower the chances of the obvious vote saving themselves, just let the cast actually merge when you say merge, if you want the true individual game to begin at final 10 then merge at final 10
The pre-merge forced vote risking journeys are annoying, when people can’t vote tribal gets a lot less interesting: Q wants to keep Bhanu in the game but since Nami chose Bhanu for the journey there is nothing they can do since Bhanu was forced to lose his vote for an advantage he didn’t even want
30 minute video indeed! Aha
@@BanditSurvivorContent Ey love your content Bandit, and thx for the reply
New Era Survivor seems to pride itself on its complexity but it seems to harm the actual gameplay when you’re forced into teams for 3/4 immunity challenges when it’s supposed to be an individual game
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I hate Hate HATE the final 4 fire making!!! at this point they’re just keeping it because they don’t want it to seem that it was really only introduced in HHH it to save Ben. It’s boring and does nothing to enhance the social game that Survivor is supposed to be! And don’t even get me started on the “reunion”. What an f’ing joke…
It just comes off as so repetitive. The final 4 vote is superior from a TV and social strategy standpoint.
I think individually immunity should be one part of the game that doesn't rely on your social game. Having other players be allowed to help each other defeats that purpose.
This season it was more of a byproduct of the repeated format. They knew it was the last chance to definitely get Maria. The format needs to be changed up from time to time to prevent metagaming, whether it’s by having a final two or removing the forced firemaking all together for a few seasons. Survivor was at its peak when the format kept changing so contestants didn’t know what to plan for.
Hopefully they hone in on that grey area now
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Biggest problem with this season was it felt really toxic and mean spirited at times. The promos bordered on being a trashy MTV fight show. And don’t even get me started on the nonsense on social media.
Yeah it’s gotten a bit ridiculous. I saw a comment saying that Liz was in their top 3 least favorite players of all time, along with Mike Skupin and Dan Spilo. Someone then replied saying how horrible it is to group her with those two, and below many other players (such as Colton and Varner) who are pretty much objectively worse. Then the OP doubled down and said something like “Well that’s just my opinion, not yours”
wasnt it not long ago that people were complaining about the new era being too nice and kumbaya?
@@TheOscar401 It’s probably the same people who were whining about kUmBaYa (which is an asinine complaint, imagine being angry that people are being nice) that are now harassing the contestants online. It’s because they thrive on misery and negativity.
People complain about the show being too soft now. People also complain when people fight and it gets negative. No offense to you personally but I’m starting to think that the main issue with this show is the fanbase.
Earlier seasons have been MUCH more negative than this one. Sometimes people fight. Sometimes people don’t like each other. That’s just life babe
@@jaykay1899 right on the money. The fanbase is 100% the biggest issue. I like the seasons where everyone is nice, and the fact that that’s an unpopular opinion is very strange.
I think Survivor owes Maria some money. I think she could’ve won the challenge where Liz helped Kenzie and thus could make an argument that it changed the trajectory of the game. Lex was able to argue that in Africa when he got the answer right to the question about tattoos and production had the answer wrong. They gave him $100,000 for that error.
To add to the last point, it’s not just the fans but some of the contestants themselves continued the drama
I’m annoyed at the fan reaction to Maria’s vote for Kenzie as one of bitterness
By all accounts her voting for her #1 ally just because they were close all game would be an entirely emotional vote, you don’t ever have locked in votes, Debbie and Aubry, Victoria and Gavin
I don’t really care for the idea of Charlie as a winner but diminishing Kenzie because of a “bitter jury” is just a rehash of Natalie White from way back when, maybe Charlie could have faked more of an effort to keep Maria in the game, jury management is the #1 skill in every season of Survivor
I will always defend the winner of every season but let's not act like Maria's vote wasn't pure bitterness. It was very clearly a vote out of bitterness. She's a juror and it's her vote so it's fair, but it was without a doubt a vote against Charlie rather than for Kenzie. It's just weird. Charlie really didn't wrong Maria in any way
@@tmm4195 how was it clearly a vote of bitterness? Charlie was one of 4 votes against her that also included Kenzie
Kenzie was by all accounts as guilty of Maria’s elimination, maybe she just didn’t care for his game, or Kenzie’s plan for the money resonated with her more as a parent herself
@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf Well I would believe that if she said Kenzie’s story resonated with her or she saw herself in Kenzie but her only excuse was “the fire in her eyes when making fire” which is so fake it’s laughable. Maria was shown to have an ego and she went into ftc with the mentality that “if I can’t win then my number 1 ally can’t win either”. I can’t make you believe that she was bitter. You can believe what you want, but I mean it’s pretty obvious she was bitter. Like it was the most bitter jury vote we’ve had in a long time lol
@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf She was bitter that Charlie was in the F3 and she was not. She was jealous that she felt they had played together and that he benefited from their partnership. She has a gigantic ego that refused to let him win if she could not. How is it not obvious to you based on her actions all season? Have you not listened to the exit press about what happened at Ponderosa, etc.
@@debbiemccune1952I never really saw the ego that other commenters have claimed to seen, overall if she was that visibly bitter than Charlie is an idiot for not handling her vote out with more tact
If she will not vote for you, then you need to get the votes elsewhere, he only got 3 other votes and there were other avenues to get the rest of the votes he needed
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Thank you for posting the video.
I felt so bad for Soda during Survivor 46
Yes! Make individual challenges actually INDIVIDUAL!
We should have the old school merge back by now
Honestly, for me the bad thing for me about the Bhanu stuff and Kenzie being shown helping Ben is that we were literally shown Kenzie being incredibly negative and shitting on and mocking Bhanu for having legitimate mental health and anxiety issues for the entire pre-mergeatory, making her seemingly caring about Ben come across as incredibly hypocritical.
How was Bhanu having “serious mental issues”? He literally told 2 other tribes that Kenzie was the mastermind of Yanu
Truth be told anyone should be phased off about that, Ben only wrote her name down once, while Bhanu could have destroyed her entire game of his own volition
@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf Did you not see him having multiple mental breakdowns and anxiety attacks? Because those were put front and center, so I don't know how you could've missed those.
I agree 100%. It was all editing post merge to try and make Kenzie look like she had a good social game. Who loved her? Who was shown saying she was such a great person other than Ben? Meanwhile we did see post merge confessionals (Tevin, Soda, Venus, etc.) praising Charlie's trustworthiness/talking about wanting to work with him. As mentioned in this video, Ben was shocked that they only showed Kenzie helping him with his night terrors because Charlie helped him equally. Ben said his bromance with Charlie was only highlighted premerge but vanished from the edit post merge. (We know why!!!) Jess was also treated badly by mean girls Kenzie/Tiff. Jess said in exit press that only Bhanu was humane to her.
@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf Saying Kenzie was a mastermind when she just did whatever Tiff/Q told her to do shows how out of touch Bhanu was! Kenzie would have been voted out if Randon was not medically evacuated. They even showed Kenzie trying to get Jess & Bhanu on board to take out Q, but they were not interested in working with Kenzie...and her actions were run back to Tiff/Q.
@debbiemccune1952 Remember that tribal council earlier in the season when everyone clapped for Kenzie literally saying how she was a good person. Everybody DID love her. I love how you’re claiming it was all edited to make it seem that way when you literally weren’t even there and have no idea what the truth is. You’re just projecting your own opinions onto the show
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The clickbait is real 29m59s on a 30m video how could you :p
I just thought of an interesting Advantage idea: "The Forced Fire Advantage". This Advantage would still allow 1 Fire Making Challenge at Tribal, but the Advantage of it would be, when you play it, The person with the Advantage names 1 player to compete in a Fire Making Challenge at that tribal, the other person will be selected thru a Rock Draw. Odd Colored Rock competes. Loser goes home. If played, then Final 4 becomes a vote, if it is never played, Final 4 defaults to a Fire Making Challenge. This could be such a swing in momentum.
They could of fixed every problem by cancelling the show after season 40.
Or they could just do what the fans want. Have only 1 idol per tribe as the only twists. Go back to season 20 format and if that doesn’t work then accept that the show has run its course.
@@lrockyfan5106 that would be a good start. but still casting in general is a mess.
Idk the F4 Challenge makes the game a little more fair as someone gets ganged up on.I think it’s more fair.