American F-16C Viper Vs Russian Mig-29 Fulcrum | DOGFIGHT | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |
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On this channel we like to do a lot of dogfighting most videos are some sort of dogfight between 2 different aircraft as we explore their different capabilities. From time to time I like to dabble in Virtual Reality, I think VR is a great new technology and I love to show that stuff off for the channel from time to time.
If you enjoy war thunder or Microsoft flight simulator 2020 or even dogfighting in Battlefield 2042, consider getting yourself into Digital Combat Simulator by Eagle Dynamics, the Combat side of Aviation with the BVR and Dogfights really provides a different and interesting perspective on aviation. You can fly all kinds of combat aircraft including the F-16, F-15, F-14, JF-17, Su-27, Mig-29, Mirage and the F-18 Hornet along with many other aircraft and helicopters like the Ka-50 and Mi-8. - เกม
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Could you please show us ground strafes with different weapon setups from ground perspective? We all know how A10 Brrrt sounds from the ground and looks on target, some even know that for Viper's 20mm, but I really wonder how a 37 mm, 6 x 50 cal., 23 mm MiG-21 and 30 mm MiG-29 long strafes would look and sound on target!
I was talking with Santa Clause the other day and he told me all he wants for Christmas was for you to make a Bf 109 vs. Fw 190 dogfight video.
Mrs. Clause even told me Santa has been talking about wanting to see this dogfight in his sleep.
GS, please give Santa this Christmas present. Don't break Santa's heart.
FYI, in case you were wondering I finally got the PICC line out of my arm and it is looking good, so far, that I might not need to have the bridge they removed from my lower orbital socket replaced.
Hi! Can you please name the track that sounds in the end of the video?
Bro you’re flying and timing is insane 💪🏼you gotta do 1V1’s with people who think they have a shot at you 😂😭that would be a wild video
Grinnelli F-22 Raptor VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR
Grinnelli F-22 Raptor VS F-15STOL/MTD and SU-30MKI at same time guns only Dogfight
just imagine driving to work and you here these jets above and then out of no where you almost get disintegrated by stray bullets, omg the anxiety I would experience lol
i wouldn’t be very anxious after being disintegrated by a stray bullet
or what actual ukranians are going to experience in 3 months
@@erics8192 nah that’s the russians
I’m such a fanboy I’d probably think it awesome
I would be like “is that a 20mm tracer bullet heading straight for my head?” (Dies)
"I'm gonna take a shot at him and I'm gonna try to not spray this road with all this civilian vehicles on it"
*Proceed to unload half Vulcan's belt on the road*
Seems more like the Geneva Suggestion than the Convention.
looool In my defence I dumped it BESIDE the road....most of it anyway lol
his initials are GS after all
How about the Geneva To-Do List
@@GrowlingSidewinder
Instead of flying the next day, you're grounded and possibly going to jail after your commanding officer and those at your court marshall see the gun camera footage.
Fools rush in where wise men never go!
The UCMJ can be a bitch.
@@eiteiei4063 Hahaha. I actually haven't heard that line before. Gave me a good chuckle. Cheers.
LOL at the sound effect of the mig 29 pulling a cobra 5 feet off the ground and realizing that he was screwed.
I remember the squish one
Lol I was just laughing with my gf at the crying kid sound effect right when the mig crashed
The MiG's attempts to avoid getting shot were both successful and rendered moot.
That “CYKA BLYAT” at 4:35 was very unexpected 😂😂😂
I actually laughed out loud 😂
I love how you describe your actions as you fly and give us quick definitions of dogfight terminology, you've really helped me understand more of what goes into these dogfights and has made me a better DCS pilot. Thank you for your daily videos, they're always a highlight to my day!
2:22 funny you mentioned the MiG-29 becomes almost similar to an F-18. A former MiG-29 pilot for the Royal Malaysian Air Force stated that during his time flying the Fulcrum, during exercises both locally and with foreign forces, only the RMAF's own Hornet (which were purchased at around the same time as the Fulcrum during the mid-90s) ever gave him and his fellow Fulcrum pilots a proper challenge. He also stated that besides its maneuverability, the Helmet Mounted Display is one of the key factors of the Fulcrum's superiority over other aircrafts.
The visibility of the F-16 and the F-22 is incredible, but I know that if I was ever in one in real life, my OCD would have me desperately crawling all over the cockpit scrubbing at every single smudge on the glass, and I'd blow right past the merge.
Smudge outside the glass 💀
@@VulcanM61 Just eject and walk home.
Could you at some point do a dogfight with missiles allowed between these two? It'd be awesome to see how the missiles affect the fight, as you mentioned with when NATO pilots practiced against it.
Now are you talking about bvr or after the merge?
@@Blearu I think he means after the merge with fox 2s
@@ryankubinski8789 I mean if so then he has already done that in some of the fights
@@Blearu After the merge
He typically doesn't do Fox2 missile fights in the F-16 because 2-circle fighting turns into an entirely different ballgame when HOB missiles like the 9x are introduced.
The next video: GS in the Mig-29 vs F-16, "Watch how the Mig-29 absolutely dominates the Viper." 🤣
You should do the US vs Russia thing again but with the rule that you can't choose the same jet twice so it's more interesting.
Do like 5 or 6 rounds so you can have different engagements.
Also make it bandit unknown so you have to choose your jet carefully.
bro how fast are you with gs videos? this video hasn't even been online for a minute
That is an amazing idea! Hope GS sees this comment!
Please do this!
but then there's like 3 modern Russian jets total, so it wouldn't be much unless you counted the archaic stuff
Round 1 was very satisfying with all the close calls, from that one car that almost got shredded to the near-miss of a collision, and Shotgun still toughed it out to the end.. Round 2 was just as fun to watch too and the talk abt rate fighting was refreshing to hear
Was kinda hoping he would've nail that virtual car with 20mm :x
@@cykeok3525 so was i
Keep the little sound effects coming 😂💯😂💯
PS - I love watching these fights. It’s like two guys on thin ice. One mistake and you fall into the abyss
the little scream you add when they're about to die kills me every time LMFAOOOOOO
Just like you did P-51 vs F-22
now try I-16 vs Su-57
Why I-16 and not Yak-3
@@ironic8340 there is no Yak-3 in dcs
Bro your content is honestly peak bro keep it up 👍
Your gunnery has gotten so much better than the early days of the channel. Well done!
truth. he's a very experienced "pilot" - lol. In fact, he might be one.
This was an awesome vid! Really appreciate the detailed breakdown of rate fighting, as I'm still new to military aviation sim and I learn a lot from your videos and explanations.
Keep up the good work and happy hunting! o7
Can you imagine being in that little white car seeing 20 mike-mike rounds detonating behind you getting closer and closer?!?! "Did the driver get hit by shrapnel?" Nope, heart attack and stroke all at the same time...
Loooooool he’s fine I swear. Gave him a call and checked on him later.
@@GrowlingSidewinder except hes probably traumatized
Some of my favorite gun kills of all time. Especially round 2 when you sprayed up his belly. Looked so cool!
I would love to see some 2v2 dogfights, both missile and guns only. It would be interesting to see how the dynamic changes.
5:40 what a sick angle. Definitely wanna see more of those shots. 2 year subscriber now. Yay me
4:22 imagine trying to convince a mechanic that an F-16 destroyed your Tire and Rim...
🤣the sound effects quadruple the entertainment of your videos. Thanks for another great video!
try to imagine yourself going into a 2 circle with the enemy in real life. you are watching every move the enemy does to try and capitalize on it. if you dont you die. so its not boring to watch. sidewinder is trying to put us in the shoes of pilots that have either lost and died or won and survived. so i like your content. its not just "2 planes going into a circle"
I'm always amazed by your flying Sir....not only do you consistently display the skill you also educate us on the fine details of dog fighting.....ThankYou
Those sneaky sound effects are awesome LOL. I was thinking it has been a while since an F-16 vs MIG-29 video. Thumbs up GS.
Thanks for explaining what's going on and defining terms!
I'm learning lots from these videos and do want to get better in DCS
I love these goofy sound effects you put in.
I love the little "pause... Ding!" arrows to show those individual bullet impacts. The guy in that car has a different outlook on life tonight.
Nice flying by both sides!
This channel got me into DCS and saved me from the frustration I was feeling in COD warzone and fortnite. :)
Great video as always! :)
Love the little fun audios thrown in there lol
Production work on these videos is great
Those little “ding” bits crack me the hell up
Just driving along when suddenly a dogfight takes place overhead and you inadvertently almost get strafed
That’s the desperation I like to see. Keep fighting till you run out of altitude. Need to see more of this guy 😂
in a comici read there was at a moment a BVR engagement between a 2 F-16 an a MiG-29
Can't imagine how scary that would be in real life, knowing you're going to eventually be out-rated and have your 6 taken.
"Phrasing, are we still not doing phrasing people! C'mon it's not that hard! ...goddamnit."
@@debbiestimac5175 Where is that from?! lol I want to say Archer but it's wrecking me not knowing.
@@terryritter7065 Sorry to be so late to respond, yup from Archer. My favorite episodes though are when Sterling has to dress as a gay honeypot and the target is not interested. "How could you not want this! Look at me!" Cuban spy he is targeting : "Honestly, you look a little desperate..." ROFL! Myself I may look like the Katya character a bit but definitely identify more with Archer. Getting away with just about anything because I'm awesome! /s
actually loving the meme sound effects in between dogfights
Love the Suttle sound effects!!
Imagine you are just driving home from Walmart and you get randomly evaporated by a Vulcan lmao
Loving the vids. Have you thought about some night time dogfights?
I know you've probably covered it in other videos, but could you describe what winning cues and losing cues look like as you're fighting?
Your videos always get me pumped to play DCS. I'm trash at it. Still learning to fly. But man is it rewarding.
Great fight GS speaking of the F-18 where has the hornet been I would like to see a fight between the mig-29 against the F-18 even though you’ve done it before thanks for the video my man.
Do you ever 2v2 or other setups? Interested to see some tactical variety. Run missions?
Trying not to shoot the road was cool.
Just got the f18 and f16. Can't wait to start!
Guy in the car: “I’m tryin to change my f’n tire dude!”😠
Never been this early to a GS video before... no clue what to say
That’ll do just fine 😁🤙
That damn thing is still SO sleek with only Winders on the Wingtips.
Could you please show us ground strafes with different weapon setups from ground perspective? We all know how A10 Brrrt sounds from the ground and looks on target, some even know that for Viper's 20mm, but I really wonder how a 37 mm, 6 x 50 cal., 23 mm MiG-21 and 30 mm MiG-29 long strafes would look and sound on target!
Hello GS, one of your most infomative videos yet. Thanks a lot for touching upon, defining and clearly explaining the basics.
PS: Requesting to do a Dogfight between an Indian modified MiG-21 Bison vs Pakistani F-16. You are the only one capable enough to recreate a recent skirmish.
No disrespect. Do you actually believe the Bison shot down an F-16? I know IAF is better trained.
@@faizalsalim1194 In certain conditions it can, it's not the aircraft but radars and missiles.
Also specifically, whether it's possible I would say yes, there is a bleak possibility of that happening.
It depends on what was happening in that time, were the f-16s advancing or retreating, were they engaged by su-30's or not.
Both of the situations could be true, it might not have been shot down and it could have been shot down. I guess maybe in a decade or two we will know what happened that day.
At the end of day I love catching up on GS and Longshot's video's ! I couldn't stop to laugh ''' head first right into the dirt ''''' Beautiful !
Playing dcs with terrain graphics maxed out is a flex
EASILY THE BEST THING ON YOU TUBE BY FAR!!!!!!!!!❤️👍
The little kid scream upon death kills me every time 🤣🤣🤣
Can you make a video explaining advanced dogfight tactics and theory? and maybe energy management?
Love to see you in a BF-109 again. But great clip m8.
The first duel really showed how incredibly good Shotgun is as a Pilot.
you got that "big cue energy" going on.
you are like thanos, inevitable
As your going through the explanation of how you are getting the better of the other fighter, could you also explain what the other fighter could do to counter what your doing. I'm looking at this fight and all I could think about was, what if I were in the Mig29? What the heck would I do to counter what your doing. Maybe it would help us newbies out a bit. Keep up the great work.
Hey I love ur channel I understand one two circle I think that a video on the Hud explaining what everything means
Hey growling sidewinder, i would really apreciate to see a dogfight between the mirage 2000 and the rafale to see how they perform against each others. Thank you if you do :)
Not this guy whipping out a cobra on you tho😂😂
Damn round 1 shotgun had some really good defensive flying even with the diff thrust even though it killed him at the end, round two nice shot GS…
4:25 - Motorist jinks at the last second and avoids being shot down by GS.
I would like to see a dogfight end up in a chase between mountains. I know its improbable but would still be to see.
I'm a simple man, I see a Growling video w f16 and I watch
Awesome fight!
There is a video were the Falcon and Fulcrum do a mock dog fight at an airshow. That Mig smokes like a chimney.
lol that shit was funny man. I like the use of civilians as a moral deterrent.
Talk about an iconic match up 🤩
I want another one of these :))
If the fulcrum is a better fighter when slower than the f16, then you should try a hornet or superhornet against it!
Novalogic vibes in this matchup. Takes me back
F-22 Lightning 3 🤩
Novalogic! Whoa that name brings lots of nice memories. Reminds me of the Commache helicopter and of course the F-22 lightning.
Dropping the nukes in the F-22 was fun back then.
That was the best of them all
Hey GS, what's the little scream at 5:21? I heard it in other videos and it cracks me everytime lol
😆
Uh oh shotguns back (que the boss track) every time he’s flying it’s a true Bossfight
Please, more SEAD missions
Im allways rooting for the underdog. I enjoyed this video, as I do most of your videos, but i would have done more so if you were flying that MIG ;)
Allways more entertaining to see you prevail despite of the technical difference, rather then because of them :)
Wonderful video, hats off to Shotgun.
Posting about rate fighting made me think of a thing.
The F-14 and especially F-16 like to rate fight on the deck. Indeed I get the impression that unless the aircraft are grossly mismatched, a simple rate fight *only* happens on the deck, after it becomes impossible for the disadvantaged fighter to trade in energy.
So if you're down low, there's a thing you can do in theory against SAMs and AAMs that are faster than you and flying to a proportional-navigation intercept: Fly toward the ground so the intercept point goes underground. The missile flies to the intercept point and crashes. You pull up before crashing. Now in practice you don't have the range and closure information that would be needed for this, and even if you did it would take superhuman skill and timing. You fly low, maybe bounce up and down, and just hope it happens.
But. At the end of a rate fight, the defensive fighter has no choice but to reverse turns to try for a scissors and therefore fly in front of the offensive fighter's nose, giving him a nice shot setup on each reversal.
1. Things happen more slowly than with the missile. Closure rates in this situation are low, or else the defender gets his overshoot, and the defender is already timing movements relative to the attacker's actions.
2. If the offensive fighter chose a rate fight, he probably turns less tightly than the defensive (helpful but not necessary for this scheme).
3. To hit with guns, the offensive fighter has to lead the defensive by whatever amount.
And 4. unlike a missile, a fighter has to think about what happens after any given intercept maneuver.
Soooo...if you're defensive on the deck, can you make turn reversals "for free" by doing them as barrel rolls toward the ground, such that the nose position required to shoot you when you cross the nose would lead to the offensive fighter flying into the ground?
4:34 got to admit that cobra was pretty dope if he managed a snapshot
You should have a ground support contest between the a-10 and a-37 super tweet
Brings back fond memories of falcon 4.0 😊
Hope to see GS use Cobra and make it useful, like differential thrust. But it has to be a missile fight.
The F-16 is such a timeless design. Much like the P-51 Mustang. So beautiful.
I like how the MiG-29 pulls TWO stall maneuvers in the first fight. Though to be fair the second one ended rather poorly.
I am curious about how a a pilot who is used to pulling the AoA limiter, and using differential thrust might be able to handle the jet to get more "Snapshots" against an F-16
Hoping that you switch seats so we can se the effect the pilot has on the duel
I love seeing the proof of the double engine design. There’s a whole lot of people from what I hear that always fight for planes to have two engines. For instance the US navy prefers two engines to one while flying over water, hence the F-18’s adoption over the F-16. But you never really get to see it in action. That Mig lost an entire engine and it still flew.
Makes me wonder why the F-35 ended up with a single engine.
Just a theory, but perhaps it was to make the VTOL abilities of the F-35B easier to implement
@@Jkim890 That's a good point. Otherwise you'd need 2 lift fans or some kind of gearbox to combine the shaft drives of the 2 engines together (but ask the Navy how that's going.)
A single engine plane is, in general, going to be lighter, simpler, and cheaper both to buy and maintain. Bearing in mind, lower cost means you can afford to put more planes in the sky, implying survivability through simply winning the fight. While it's easy to see the redundancy value of twin engines, the truth is most fighters have used twins for performance. There simply is no engine in existence that will satisfy the power demands of an F-15 on it's own. And truthfully, modern engines are so incredibly reliable that failures have become very rare; IIRC there has never been an engine-related loss of a Gripen, for example. So with the F-35, they wanted to get as much airplane as they could with the weight and cost benefits of running a single. The Navy did protest, as did Canada, but in the end they were assimilated.
When those doctrines were made, requiring twin engines for overwater operations, jets were still not that reliable and why passenger planes were required to have four engines. Once the high bypass fan jets started taking over like with the 777 Dreamliner, regulations were relaxed and why Fat Amy has only one blower.
I often wondered that myself and I always thought it should have had the super cruise like the F-22 but I guess they had their reasons.
Love the explanations
Thanks. wanted to see that ! Maybe F-22 combined with a F-15EX loaded with say, 24 AIM120's against 8 Su-35's ?
Could you possibly let RAZBAM give you another test run with the F-15E and dogfight and/or BVR against an equivalent jet? Or even dogfight or BVR against RAZBAM in their own module so it doesn’t give away too much?
I don't know why, but I like the F-16's alert and notification sounds better than other aircraft. Less intrusive? More informative? Not sure, but perhaps I'm also just a massively biased Viper fan.
Please make a video "how to win over Viper" with MiG-29 or Flanker in a dogfight guns only!
In the mid 90s I was the USAFE ACMI program manager and helped set up the first DACT deployment between the German MIG-29s and the F-16s from the 510th at Aviano. I can say that on that deployment the F-16s dominated the MIGs. Close to 10-1.
That deployment was at Decimomannu.
So given that he was never going to win the 2 circle fight, what could he have done? Once he recognised that he was losing the rate fight would it have helped if he had reversed his turn and try and established a one circle fight or was it too late by that point?
I suspect its already too late at that point. I guess you could try and force an overshoot by tightening down, nose countering and jinking. But to say thats difficult is understating it.
jeez mig pulling off airshow stunts with one engine!