Why the Soviet answer to the F-16 failed - MiG 29 story
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You didint get the story right about yugoslav one it was less then 5 migs againts hundreds of f15s f16s 1 mig 29 took out 4 f16s
the airframe of the mig29 is excellent, this plane can climb extremely quickly and gain speed faster than most other fighters, its thrust to weight ratio is amazing and its maneuverability is extremely good, the only problem is that it's held back by its radar system and lack of guided weapons developed by the USSR/Russia
It was never modernized like the Nato planes
@@Kurio71 yea, the avionics are lacking quite a lot
Here is the story. Fighter evolution series.
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Yeah it's a common theme with Russian aircraft, superior performance/manoeuvrability, but let down by avionics/weaponry. I love Russian planes, In my eyes they're the better fighters but the nature of air combat means they aren't.
Someone in the West said modern, more advanced engines could be installed as well as new avionics . Wow.
Not the most capable plane, but one of the most beautiful in my opinion.
agree, btw, imo this is the first Soviet design that is iconic in its appearance, two, it simply has a beautiful line. All of the earlier ones were either heavily inspired or simply ugly, such as the mig 21. It also seems that the Russians have taken a liking to this shape as well, as the su 27, su 33, su 35, su 37 are heavily inspired by this look.
Agreed.
There are some jets that just look perfect.
This one in my aesthetics books is S-tier.
I also like the lines of the MiG-23. I know that may be a polarising statement.
But sure, it’s aesthetics!
Aesthetically, Soviet aircraft can't be beat. Far as practicality it's a 50/50 split because both countries produce highly capable planes.
It’s pretty but it’s garbage capability wise
Agree, until i found out the legend Su 27 family 😁
I had no idea the Soviets had introduced off boresight missiles so early. Pretty interesting
they killed dogfights and then decided to focus on supermaneuverability
One thing the Soviets did well from the start was missile tech. A2A and SAMs were always very formidable. Once they were able to get their hands on some foreign designs, they were able to make some pretty impressive leaps. They were punching well above their weight for quite a while there.
@@FloridaManMatty? they didn't have a A2A IR missile until they were able to get their hands on an a stolen AIM sidewinder
@FloridaManMatty Yeah they were able to put up a fight AFTER copying American weapons. The Soviet engineers in a documentary were literally like "The radar-guided gunsight we took from an F-86 was amazing and we are very thankful to the US haha."
An AIM-9 sidewinder failed to detonate and got stuck in a North Korean fighter in the Vietnam War. It was promptly sent to Russia to reverse engineer and finally get a working IR missile...
The first Soviet nuclear bomb was a direct copy of the Fatman with technical documentation supplied by espionage scientists in the Manhatten project.
The TU-144 was heavily based on stolen technical documentation of the Concorde regarding the general airframe and aerodynamics.
Copying good enemy design is smart, so dont see the issue there. USA copied Germany's entire rocket program and used nazi scientists to reach the moon.
I think the issue is that unlike the Mig 29, the F 16 doesn't have its host nation completely dissolve and money has to be prioritized for its more capable cousin, the Su 27. So while the Su 27 has received a bunch of modern upgrades that rival its counterparts (Su 30, Su 35), the Mig is the overshadowed, semi-neglected child that got like some minor upgrades to avoid making it too obsolete. Most countries that wish to buy Russian hardware are more willing to fork out more for the Su since the Su is just more capable around; the only exception being the Naval version with the case of India since the Su family is way too unwieldy for aircraft operation (see the Su 33)
Sukhoi spent lots of their own money to keep the Su-27 program alive. Mostly through foreign sales and even production licenses to China (J-10).
Chinese isn't interested with MiG-29 had a bad taste from the failed MiG-21 production attempt ending up have to reverse engineering most of it (although it was actually the Soviet government's handiwork, especially when the Chinese started to open up to the west). Later they made their own single engine light fighters based on J-8, making them even less interested with MiG-29 variants and MiG-33
The Su-33 is too big to be carried in sufficient numbers on the carriers India operates. On larger carriers like what the Chinese are operating and building its fine.
@@christianvalentin5344As I recall the Su 33 had issues with taking off with a full load. Was that issue fixed with the j -15? More powerful engines?
No, it did not. The Chinese had a version of the SU-33 engine in one of their J-15s. Took off with a full load with ease. The Russians, pissed at China trying to steal their engines made them impossible to reverse-engineer. So, the Chinese built a home-grown version of the best they could reverse-engineer the SU-33 engine. THAT is the engine the Chinese cannot take off with a full load. Russian planes have NEVER had any such difficulties. Quit lying.
I'd say yes and no. The Su 27 got all those upgrades because it better fit the current landscape of air warfare. Longer range, better radar, etc. The Mig 29 is my favorite airplane of all time, but by the time it entered service, it's role as a short range, dogfighting ace was increasingly becoming obsolete.
I don't think it had much to do with the SU collapsing as the Mig 29 was excellent at what is was designed to do, and when not facing off against top tier western radars and missiles, it's a very capable aircraft.
The Mig29 is an absolutely beautiful warbird and it's maneuvering capabilities are nothing short of amazing. I'll never forget the first time I saw 2 perform at and airshow. I stood there in complete awe thinking to myself "how the hell did that just do that without stalling and falling out of the sky?" I can still picture it like it was yesterday.
Its control surfaces are HUGE!
@@necsoiub Which has nothing to do its performance because the wings and the whole airframe generate the lift.
Fighter evolution series.
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@@molnibalage83 you need elevators to pitch up tho???????????????????????????????
Here you can learn a lot more about this and more topic.
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F-16 could turn tighter.
We gotta agree the MiG-29 looks menacing, right?
He dont looks. He IS.
@user-wx4nq6ge7e You got a point there
Absolutely, gorgeous and aggressive plane, I love the mig29
Yes it looks good but a double seater su27 is unbeatable. That imo is the best looking Russian plane
@@TheFlyMan that’s fair, I think Russian military aircraft look amazing as it it
Don't think it failed and did exactly what it was supposed to do and remains formidable, imagine if it had been the subject of as much investment in development as the F-16 has.
Then this video wouldn't exist, hence, it's real.
@@Audfilenot true… the existence of this video doesn’t prove or disprove anything. Need a hug?
Exactly.. wasn’t a failure
@Audfile You know flat earth theory videos exist right?
@@guaporeturns9472 How many nations are still operating Mig29? When did the last foreign country buy a brand new Mig29 from russia?
How many F-16 are still being sold? How many nations are still operating the F-16?
If it was designed to counter the F-16, then it failed.
The reason why India is able to use the Mig 29 so well is because they are majorly used in mountain regions. Its high speed and maneuverability have played a key role in maintaining control of J&K, or what's left of it.
Indian flyers are better. At least better trained and motivated.
The bigger reason it probably employed there is that the Fulcrum was intended to be able to take off from shorter and less ideal runways, which is important in places like mountainous regions.
I should know much more about the Indian military overall. Empire operations as Cold war, Non aligned status as well. Their troops were underappreciad in Ww2.
@@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
LMFAO, IAF has the highest record of aircraft crashes.
@@fanaticcoder3320That's not because of the pilots, its due to not upgrading the jets and using old generation aircrafts, also Russian jets are not easy maintain
To be clear the Mig 21 performed well in *early* Vietnam, later on the F-4 was the obviously superior fighter once sidewinder issues were ironed out, and most losses were to SAMs, while conversely most Mig 21 losses were to aircraft.
Nikolai Sutyagin - deal with it
Mig-29, SU-27, F-14 tomcat will always be the three most beautiful airplanes ever
Id add the phantom and harrier aswell but i agree those late era soviet jets look beautiful
F-15 is pretty good looking, but I would say Gripen tops the lot.
F-5 for me.
F23.
SR-71
when the mig 29 was introduced, even the pentagon made a *now* unclassified report on how the mig 29 was superior to the early block 10 f16 and the f15 A an B in terms of capabilities
The MiG 29 is still probably my favorite looking jet to this day
She’s a beauty.
F-22 for me
YF 23 is best looking
Eurofighter for me
MiG-23 for Me, They don't produce any single engined Jet after
Correction: there's only one MiG-29MU2 built so far, most Ukrainian MiG-29s are MiG-29MU1 or 9-13s, with the additions of planes donated by Poland and Slovakia.
Mig 29 is known as silent saviour in india,due to their BVR capability Pakistani Airforce F16s denied to fought against them in 1999 indo pak war.
Indian Air Force was the fist customer of Mig-29 when they were exported. Currently the Mig 29's in service with the IAF are heavily upgraded and are performing extremly well against the PLA Airforce in the Himalayan region. The Naval version of the Mig 29 is not performing well as the spares supply got hindered. But still has been performing well in high seas.
Yall need to replace those you need better missiles and bvr capabilities
India wasn't the first customer. It was the first customer outside of Warsaw Pact. That's a big difference.
@@johnnyenglish583 Not quite sure here, which country got them before India?
@@marijandumancic4259 I'm pretty sure one of the Warsaw Pact countries got it first. I think it was East Germany. It would be logical: you share your latest technology with your allies first, before exporting it. That was normal policy in the USSR, and I don't think it's surprising.
@@johnnyenglish583 ok, so you don't KNOW, just guesstimating.
Attempt # 17
The Bugatti 100P ( it’s a plane)
I feel like it really deserves more love than it gets.
Hahaha you have asked so many times… I really should make it just for you. It’s so obscure
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@@FoundAndExplainedon’t know if there is enough info but I just figured out there was a plan for a St-21 if h could make a video on it
@FoundAndExplained yeah it's definitely off the beaten path first time I saw a model I thought it was fake.
@@FoundAndExplainedI think what he really wants is just a hug.
This video title is bad. The Mig-29 was an export success and introduced High off bore sight missiles and Helmet Mounted Displays way before they became commonplace in western aircraft.
That's funny to notice that Ukraine will probably use the MiG 29 AND the F-16 at the same time
4th Gen airframe, 3rd Gen avionics, engines that leave a trail of black smoke visible for miles.
I admit, the look and shoot helmet HUD display was innovative.
You're animations are getting better and better. Very well done.
I would like to suggest to you to make a video on the french rafale or indian tejas jet
Feel that the Su-27 stepped up to answer the F-16 over the MiG-29.
Su-27 family is more comparable to the F-15 family with regards to being the heavy fighter (or the "high" in the high-low air superiority mix)
@@Re.Configured F15 still rekts su27
@@mr.abrams8112An answer to a question no one asked... We know.
@@woutergrob8587 look at the comments, "we" is not a lot of people.
@@mr.abrams8112 the number of likes says otherwise..
I am not one to preach the capabilities of the Russian military, but the mig-29 is one of the coolest 4th gen fighters, looks awesome, is the most maneuverable fighter, and sticks to the energy maneuverability doctrine of dog fighting, it sucks it isn’t as useful as it should be, but it is easily the coolest fighter to see at an air show
There's a good book out there called "Fulcrum", written by Alexander Zuyev, a MiG 29 pilot that defected to the U.S.
The CG on this channel has gotten so good
Another great video. Comment about your Merch store: I think more items using some of the great 3d rendered images of aircraft you have made would likely sell more than just items with your logotype on them. I know I would be interested in items like that!
That's a great idea! I’ll start doing it next week after holiday
YES! Do make a part 2 video to this, and call it "The last fulcrum" as you stated.
nevermind the jet, PhazoTron has to be the coolest company name ever!
5:39 yeah it was. Having an additional 1.5 tonns of metal over f16 while also having weak radar is a death sentence
Holy crap, the main gear flex on that carrier landing at the end was REAL! 😮😮😮😮
This is a really good video, and yes, I'd love to see one on the MiG-35 as well!
8:16 Off-topic, but props to that one guy pulling the protester out of harm's way.
Usually, when showing the MIG-29 at the airshow, didn't one of them crashed. The pilot did survive, which was a miracle because of the time he ejected. He was very low to the ground. I believe that this happened at the airshow that you mentioned in the first part of the video. It was a bit of egg on the face of the soviets. However, when they introduced the SU-27 that made up for their earlier embarrassment. For many years the SU-27 was a top of the line fighter.
If my memory serves me correctly that happened the following year at the Paris Air Show. The MiG29 suffered an engine stall during the high-alpha fly past (possibly as a result of a birdstrike). The ejection seats fitted to the later Soviet fighters are incredibly capable (if a lot heavier than Western models) and can launch the pilot safely skywards at almost any ejection angle.
At le Bourget Air Show, I think the Tu-144 "Concordski", the Mig29 and the Su27 crashed...
Great but dangerous Air Show!
@@renaudcharlet While all those crashes did happen at that very air show, they occurred at very different years. The very famous Tu-144 crash happened in 1973 (A result of the plane flying with its limiters turned off that would expose some very fatal flaws in the design causing it to stall in the air and come down, coming apart in the process) while the Mig 29 crash happened in 1989 due to an engine stall. The Su-27, Though technically it was the Su-30 variant by that time, had its crash happen a full 10 years later in 1999 after a tail strike the pilot couldn't climb and recover from following a botched maneuver.
Not miracle but by design. The ejection seat in those planes is set to operate in All of the flight range, this include catapulting from the ground.
Given Solviet Union is famous with not giving that much attention to the crew but that is actually the exact opposite
8:58, very general statement. The MiG-29s of the Yugoslav air force were in a pitiful condition and the radars were barely working.
@mitchellcouchman6589 Yes, the aircraft were barely flying, the pilots were good. If you want a comparison, the aircraft has to at least fly sir, those were barely working. Read "Gallant Knights", it's an article in the airforces monthly magazine.
The Mig 29 is such a beautiful aircraft.. the way it stands so tall in front and the lines swoop up and to the back. It’s like a steel ballerina. The F22 is a cool looking plane and may perform light years better, but the Mig29 may be the most beautiful fighter ever built.
I agree x10000
If the Mig 29A was fully modernized it would have been a very competitive jet. But they cut corners and had a LOT of old cockpit amenities. Once the west saw inside they weren't worried.
The MiG-29 is probably the sexiest plane ever built.
*Except possibly the F-4 Phantom... That thing is a hot rod.
@@ianmedford4855 Agreed, F4 looks really good to me despite its less impressive performance
Could you imagine going to off bore shots like training a pilot who has already been trained to fire within certain parameters and now telling them to let it go whenever 😂
The Fulcrum has always been one of my favorite planes... it just looks soo damn cool, regardless of any shortcomings!
EDIT okay yeah I'm about to boot up Ace Combat or DCS after finishing this video.
Fighter evolution series.
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Thanks for the video! 👍 It is a very beautiful airplane and I like it a lot together with Su-27. You forgot to mentioned, that Mig-29 is able to land almost every where, including non-paved fields. For this reason, it has two intakes for each engine. One is in front of the engine gondola and the other is on the upper surface of the wing. The lower one is closed during takeoff or landing on a dirty field to keep the engines from sucking in debris, and the engines "breathe" through the upper one, which is open.
4:41 infrared guided missiles? Heat seekers? Those were obsolete for a while at that point.
One of my favorite channels on TH-cam right now. As an aviation fan and info/doc binger this is right up my alley.
"Reality is often disappointing"
- mig 29
~Su-57 & MiG-23
The US had the first IR search and track sensors.
The first use of an IRST system appears to be the F-101 Voodoo, F-102 Delta Dagger and F-106 Delta Dart interceptors. The F-106 had an early IRST mounting replaced in 1963 with a production retractable mount.[2] The IRST was also incorporated into the Vought F-8 Crusader (F-8E variant) which allowed passive tracking of heat emissions and was similar to the later Texas Instruments AAA-4 installed on early F-4 Phantoms.[3]
The F-14 had an IR search and track sensor under the nose before the Mig 29 was built.
And why did it disappear ?
@@bradleyanderson4315 It is on the F 35. It never disappeared. It’s still here.
Definitely keen to know more about India's MIG29 Fulcrum version!
The development of the airplane and the equipment that goes with it was deeply troubled by the chaos provoke by the dissolution of the Soviet-Union. Also the research and development involve in the creation of the Mig 29 being a stepforward was very useful for future russian airplane design.
The MiG 28 was much better.
No one has seen those up close though.
Certain snail game would make you believe the R27 is a weapon of god.
The soviets never had electronics worth a shit, if they did it would've almost been a threat but it doesn't matter how it's designed if it's got garbage lower end components in it, Soviets never had QC even close to what low end production had here in the U.S.
10:51 - my heart skipped a beat since I knew India would be mentioned. Please make a full dedicated video on The Last Fulcrum and how effective it is against F16’s
Not really, Paķistan killed 20 soviet aircraft.
@@netsimamlol madrasas graduate
@@whysoserious7553 Bro can’t even read 💀
@@whysoserious7553 Bro has joker as his PFP cuz he a 🤡
@@netsimam OK madrasas chap
are we gonna talk about the "air to grounf" typo in the blueprint?
Despite these challenges, the MiG-29 remains an iconic symbol of Soviet military aviation and a testament to the ingenuity and engineering prowess of the Soviet aerospace industry. While it may not have achieved the same level of success as the F-16, the MiG-29 played a significant role in shaping the course of aerial warfare during the latter half of the 20th century and continues to serve in air forces around the world to this day.
The Soviet really put rook E7
I'm not well informed to speak about Iraqi MiG-29s, but Yugoslav MiGs not only that they were in bad condition, due to years of sanctions, but airspace over Serbia and Montenegro was highly contested, that most of them couldn't even get into air, and were shot on ground. And yes, please make a video about MiG-35
The Mig-29s were introduced in 1985, Iraq got it close to 1990, so those thing were super new in Iran/Iraq war, Desert Storm, etc.
Thats just usualy excuses. Those Mig-29s are just low standard planes, built to be cheap and easy to build, even compared to normal soviet standards. Considering even Su-27s, the "best the soviets could build" ended up being like 20 years behind american planes in terms of avionics, of course theyre outdated and limited.
And each of those planes had less flight hour capable as than western planes, so they werent even "rugged".
@@termitreter6545 super new in Iraq Iran war, but that doesn't matter because none of them used it at the time. Yugoslavia could have F-14D or F-16s at the time, if they were not maintained for twelve years due to sanctions and embargoes, and then faced with enemy that had absurd superiority when it comes to numbers, plus better armament, jamming capabilities etc. Outcome would be the same.
Why would sanctions affect the Soviet Union? They were entirely self-sufficient.
Never heard of Soviet 'monkey-models' as in export variants? They are stripped-down versions meant to be sold abroad devoid of certain Soviet technogies for obvious reasons. I repeat, the West have NEVER faced Soviet equipment in battle. Ever.
@@yxmichaelxyyxmichaelxy3074 Yugoslavia was under sanctions
The Tornado was never shot down by a MIG. It was taken out by a SAM on a completely different day and area of the country than that claimed by the pilot.
Yeah, it's fair enough to say that Iraq *claims* one of their MiG-29's shot down a RAF Tornado, but it is contested.
Not just how the aircraft was lost, but when and where, so the claim should be treated cautiously and not as definitive fact.
So this video is more about ineffective R27 missile than about MiG-29 itself. Also, it points out about many losses of MiG-29 such in Serbia without explaining that at that time Serbia was under international embargo of various kind for almost 10 years, without not only modernizing their MiG-29 fleet and weaponry but also hardly maintaining aircrafts due to lack of funding. It is not fair to compare airplanes and weaponry in such bad shape with modern, up to date and perfectly maintained western aircrafts. Many of MiG-29 flown by Serbia at that time (1999) didn't even have operating radars, and many other parts of equipment were not functioning.
There’s a TH-camr called Paper Skies who made a video on the Soviet Top Gun. His dad was even in it!
It should be a single engine design from the start. They had a brilliant Ye-8 design (MiG-21 derivative) back in the 1960s, but since MiG-23 they had really gone the wrong way.
This video is very malicious, belittling the early versions of the MiG-29A. Remember that the F-16 Block 1 wasn't anything special either. Furthermore, the MiG-29 never intended to compete against the F-16. They are completely different concepts. The F-16 can perform a little bit of all missions but doesn't carry the payload of an A-10 or have the range of an F-15, etc. It's like saying a Swiss army knife can do the same as the tools it tries to emulate. The MiG-29 is an aircraft that doesn't require extensive maintenance, it's powerful, fast, and has attack capability, although it's not its primary role. For that, there are the Su-25, Su-24, etc. It's also more affordable. In the case of Iraq, Yugoslavia, Ukraine, it's as if they had F-16 Block 1 against Su-30, Su-33, they would be torn to pieces. It's always the West bashing Russian products. In Iraq and Yugoslavia, the MiG-29 faced the NATO forces... just think about the numerical difference. I'd like to see 20 F-16As face 200 Su-27s and 300 MiG-29s... they would be boasting in vain. In Germany and Poland, studies were conducted on the MiG-29, comparing it to the F-16, and it was by no means a failure.
soviet strategy : win in little place without considering any cost
Cost : i am going to come after you.
VKS to Mig 29 - "I love you both equally"
VKS to Su 27 - "It's you, and by a lot"
At 1:14 you mentioned the “great performance’ of the MIG21 v. the F4. I would assign most of this great performance to the poor use of the United States’ military assets. Its politicians tied the hands of the pilots and the planners to the point they were sitting ducks. The MIG21’s performance can be attributed to Johnson and McNamara.
Total BS. The MiGs gave the Phantoms a hard time , it’s that simple. The fragile American ego is a source for great entertainment for me and the rest of the world 😂😂 Cope bud
The Mig 21's performance in Vietnam wasn't "great" but "capable." The NV Air Force had some very substantial advantages: ground control radar, SAMs to deter many flight paths, and the ability to pick and choose when and where to fight.
And the Americans made serious mistakes, such as overreliance on BVR and WVR missiles, lack of training in basic ACM, and overly predictable bombing patterns.
Despite these advantages, the best the NV Air Force could do was 1:1 kill ratios over some periods. Overall, the kill ratios favored the Americans, although not as much as they had in Korea.
I wouldn’t put the blame on Johnson and McNamara both have their own crimes against the US military.
But I will say what caused problems was the US fixation on interceptors in the 1950’s.
The F-102, F-104, F-106 and arguably the F-4 all were designed to get to a point fast and shoot at a bomber. They weren’t designed to turn.
A Mig 21 was designed to turn. I would say that only turning dogfighter to come out of that period of time was the F-8 crusader
@@guaporeturns9472’s not total BS since many F-4 Phantom pilots weren’t trained in dogfighting because it was first thought by the Air Force that BVR was going to be the main method of air combat so the F-4 Phantom was designed to be a heavy fighter that can carry heavy loads of long range missiles like the AIM-7 Sparrow and also carry unguided bombs with little in the way for maneuverability and it didn’t help that the early F-4 Phantom’s specially the B and C variants didn’t have an internal gun but he isn’t wrong about the F-4’s performance being attributed to poor use
@@CloakerV8 😂Keep making excuses .. bottom line is cheap Soviet crap kicked the shit outta high dollar American tech and all the fragile American egos just can’t come to grips with that. So funny 😆
Finally a video that acknowledges how amazing the Mig 29 really was, if you could describe that plane in one word I would say "unfortunate" because it had a lot of potential and was very capable, but the USSR fell, there was no money for upgrades or further development and the countries that bought the plane received a weaker variant, you can't say the Mig 29 was inferior to the F16 or F15 if you have never seen them fight on equal terms, normally the F15 was always supported by F16, F18 and AWACS while the Mig 29 had to fly and fight alone, an F16 would be an easy target for a coalition of Fulcrums, supported by Flankers and all of them backed by an AWACS giving them vital info
Failed is a bit of a stretch don't you think?
It became one of the cheapest, most ubiquitous and capable fighters of all time simply because it was:
1) Way ahead of its time using technology the US could only dream of (and it actually worked)
2) Had amazing thrust to weight and handling equivalent if not better than an F16
3) Was very easy to fly and easy to learn to fly in comparison (like most soviet jets which were designed for quick learning)
Considering it is still in service to this day, and ukraine is using it well, and the fact that Russia has modernized the platform several times to accept even better weapons and systems, as well as the complete overhaul with the Mig-35...its easy to see why this bird is one of the most legendary cold war air craft.
The question becomes, How did this jet fail? Even today, it can be produced en masse and deliver great performance in most localized conflicts and short range intercepts. Its super fast, light, small, and upgraded. Seems like a no brainer to me if you can't afford high tech western jets.
1. It wasn't that cheap.
2. Focusing on handling this late in the Cold War is nonsense.
3. I disagree because the F-16 has a computer with flight director, the MiG-29 requires constant re-trimming because speeding up and slowing down causes lift characteristics to change.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD wrong on everything you said.... 🤡 It's definitely cheap too....can you be any more wrong? 🤣
@@JamesOMalley-hb4tf It's not cheap. There's a reason the Su-27 dominated. The MiG-29 wasn't cheap enough to justify the purchase.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD it's definitely cheap, you can buy three migs for the price of one f 16. 🤣 And Russia chose su 27 for it's long range and weapons load for the vast Russian territory. mig 29 is the most successful export fighter ever.... because it's cheap.
@@JamesOMalley-hb4tf But 4,600 F-16s were built compared to 1,600 MiG-29s. It's not cheap. It's not even successful. The F-16 outsold it by over 3x.
Please give us the story of the last Fulcrum!
Fate of plane can litteraly be described in one sentence:" at the wrong place in wrong time".
yup, just ask Lockheed about the L1011.
Though the news that this machine isn't as capable as all and sundry expected during the 90's... it still looks awesome.
We had the AIM-95 Agile in the early 1970's and developed a few versions of VTAS which was the first helmet mounted cuing system. We foolishly canceled the agile but did end up fielding the VTAS system with several F-4S squadrons. But without the missile it was fairly neutered.
So once again we did it first and decades before.
The Mig 29 Navy is now a challenge to Chinese Jets on the India China disputed regions... and the Chinese know this is bad news but India maybe needs more Mig 29's
It's amazing how a failure just keeps on flying, eh?
I wouldn’t say it failed, I’d say it just got obsolete. The 29 did one of the biggest missions it was designed to do: provide deterrence.
The real deterrence was nuclear. Non-nuclear nations with MiG-29s were invaded.
One of the few aircraft you can identify from quite afar because it rolls coal 😂
We use the Mig 29 in both Airforce and Naval wing in India... Excellent aircraft that too with the UPG version
Мне тоже интересно почему и с чего это он вдруг провалился по сравнению с позорным ф16, особенно с ф16 тех лет
да все просто же - сначала страну развалили, а потом в кб миг пришли непонятные люди, в прошлом работавшие в кб сухого, и начали валить кб, плюс отсутствие госзаказа на миг-29
It didn’t fail. It’s users were those developing countries that didn’t have the same level of over all military system/infrastructure to support those plane to the same level the US could with F16.
Had the opponent been China, for example, the outcome would be vastly different.
An example would be those simple Russian export versions of Su27, to China’s cutting edge J16. They are in theory the same plane, but the military system supporting them are vastly different.
Another example would be a Soviet Tu-16 to China’s H-6K. The results are a world of difference depending entirely on the over military infrastructure.
The F-16 was never even Americas air supremacy fighter. The F-15 was, and now it is the F-22.
Your mom failed
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Fighter jet doesn't matter whatever technologies it may be for me every fighter jet is same it depends on pilots
Are you talking about the Su-27 flanker next time?
Great video btw
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7:40: “Air to grounf capability” 😂
I think the negative marketting is the main reason. Mig-29 is a fine bird. Infact the Mig29 in the IAF is the most modern in the world surpassing all F-16s flying even with Block 70 upgrades.
MIG 29 didn't fail. When it entered service it was very competitive. Problem is Russia never had money like US had to upgrade MIG 29. Don't forget US has military budget larger than next nine countries combined.
Mig29 Air combat
Kills : 6
Shot down : 18
You're forgetting Iraq
Mig 29 is a formidable fighter, not that exported variants that was sent in USA.
The most important feature about the MiG-29, you left out. The key characteristic about the MiG 29, as explained by its Chief Engineer, was its wind. They pushed the Design to the absolute max, then strap the rest upon it.
Eow, Thanks for the video ^-^ Always picked the Mig-29 over the F-16 as a kid, didn't know that it's engines and avionics were much worse then XD Curious how it would perform if we stuffed it full of US tech, like GE414 engines and F-18E avionics , and maybe the M61 cannon too. Hopefully that would make the Mig29 dangerous?
They werent much worse… It literally was better than the first generations of the F-16. And the US was scared of it.
Yes, please go ahead and make a video about MiG-35 too. Your videos are always enlightening
Soviet answer to F16 failed?
Indian Mig 21 shot down Pak F16
it didn't fail ! it was built to counter F 16 & was so good at that job that Pakistan Air Force ( operating F 16s ) REFUSED to even fight during Kargil conflict in 1999 against Indian air force ( having MiG 29s ).
Mig-29 is it’s own thing. Limited in its capacity. F-16 was designed to be versatile and a part of a system. Two different concept systems. Mig-29 might be a better airframe but F-16 is a superior platform.
Even that could be called into question
@@beetlusjuicus4013 F-16 has 11 hard points. With many versions exceeding those. I think one even went double that number. Mig-29 has 9. And I think they went up to 12 but that’s about it. That’s just ordinance. R series missiles are capable but poor QC made them unreliable. I think 4 out of 10 would fail. Not that they wouldn’t track but they wouldn’t go of the rail or go nuts. Compare that to Sidewinders, Mavericks where rate of failure is about 1.3%. F-16 can hold it’s own against SU-27. Can Mig-29 hold its own against F-22?
At 7:43 there is small typo; "Air to grounf"
VTAS (Visual Target Acquisition Set) is the first helmet-mounted sight system introduced for use with an operational fighter, the U.S. Navy F-4 Phantom II. Developed by the Honeywell Co. and adopted in March 1972 ☝️ -
Well even the Indian Navy MIG 29k M2 from the mid 2000s are so disappointing Indians are now buying Rafale M. Money talks. Same happened with the SU-30
Actually the mig 29 and f 16 never had an equal fight. They had a fight like if the latest mig29m2 (for example the mig 29 of the Algerian air force today) met the oldest variant of the F16A. And also in almost every battle that these two planes had (eg in Yugoslavia in 1999) the f16 always flew in large groups of planes against one or at most two mig 29s.
Alright I gotta defend the F-4… it wasn’t a mistake, it was a very capable warplane. The reason for the difference in performance between the Syrians and Vietnamese was in how they used their MiG-21s. The Vietnamese used theirs as point defense aircraft that they tended to only send up when they had a big situational advantage when they’d perform a hit and run attack to avoid turning engagements as much as possible. When a flight of USAF F-4s lured them up by spoofing F-105s the MiG-21s got wrecked. The Syrians on the other hand tried to use them in offensive operations and it just didn’t work for them.
That’s not to say that the MiG-21 wasn’t a great and capable aircraft so much as to say as how warplanes are employed operationally is the single most important factor in how effective they end up being.
MIG29 was an okay plane. But it was never best. It have been so much hype about this plane on both sides of the Berlin wall and MIG29 cannot live up to its expectations. Its no where near them. It lookslike a F14 or F15... but it is much crappier. Indeed su35 is much better and is much better.
Totally agree with you, a brilliant design that came at the wrong time and never got developed to its full potential
Mig 29 was a success that's why so many nations operate it.
No, they operate them because they either:
A) have them left over from the Soviet Union and no budget to replace them.
B) can’t afford western aircraft
Or C) are enemies of western nations, and it’s the best they can purchase, and pray they don’t have to fight a Western equipped airforce.
It didnt fail😢
I would very much enjoy a Mig-35 video. If you do a video on the Mig-35, could you touch a little bit on the Naval status of it?
The MiG 29 appears to have been meant to be a light weight short range fighter best suited for combat against NATO in a East vs West conflict ( built quick , in large quantities, and cheap and deadly “ enough” but expendable when piloted by East bloc pilots)
There was a 90s Red flag training op where western trained MiG 29 West German pilots sobered up the USAF pilots and USN Pilots with helmet mounted sights and archer missile systems.
The MiG 29 never had the avionics of F-16s and F/A-18s so yeah it would be behind US jets