Great video, thank you. Just returned from the dealer for a 5,000 mile service, $430. I don’t mind paying for a service while I go have breakfast, IF they dealt with the issues, they didn’t. I had a plastic gum wrapper keeping the left side cover from wearing away the oil line at the rear of the engine. When they pulled it around, the cover was not seated in the grommets and the wrapper was still there. Nice job on the service, oil on the gaskets and everything torqued properly. Clean!
Delboy's Garage, Hi Del, your welcome, I have a Amsoil dealer 10 min drive from my house, very lucky. I service all my bikes over the last 40 plus years, you know what they say, your never to old to learn new ideas and I have by watch your videos, keep up the great work you do. I also purge the oil every time I change the oil, I watched your how to videos, from 1-5, great videos, here is a little trick I would like to share with you. What I have done is taken a used oil filter and cutting the filter in half using a die grinder, then remove all the insides of the filter, wash and remove the burrs around the filters, sand both sides of the two half’s and apply some J-B Weld Epoxy around both half’s, now press the two half’s back together, when the epoxy has dried in 24 hours you now have made a scavenger puck. Now use the puck when doing your oil change. I hope you share this idea with others. I don’t know how to post pictures, but if you e-mail me I can share a picture or two with you and maybe others. My e-mail is louisrodrigues@rogers.com Thanks for all you do!! Thanks Luis
I just came across this particular issue and really appreciate your covering this, even 3/4 years down the road. I am putting Lucas in my oil bag, but have not yet done the tranny and primary, so this will really be helpful. p.s. - your video was totally professional!!!
Right with you, Del. Amsoil only in my police bike. The Harley dealer I go to sells all the brands...Redline, Screamin' Give me your Gold coins oil, etc. When I've been in the back with the service techs, the majority whisper to me what they use.........AMSOIL. Good choice.
Thank you Sir, it's great to have such endorsement, the bike already feels better, certainly on gear changes and that all important first engagement on a cold morning, a lot softer and less aggressive, definitely an improvement!
Both my boys are auto mechanics and one works on Harleys with his father-in-law (certified Harley Mech) as well. They have gone to all Amsoil at the Harley Shop, and now we've got it in our vehicles as well, and loving it! My little dual-sport (one-holer) likes premium oil too, but haven't gone to Amsoil just yet! :-) I was thinking of you two when I took some photos down our street yesterday with snow stacked to 4' on each side of the road, maybe we'll get to start riding by late March! Your bike looks and sounds awesome, Del...Cheers!
Hey Allen, how wonderful to hear from you! And how amazing, we've never seen snow that deep... 3" of snow here in England and they declare a state of emergency!! We had some wind and rain overnight this weekend, a few trees blown down and watching the news, you'd think it was the end of the world... don't they love the drama! But at least we are lucky enough to be able to ride all year round, with maybe a few days punctuation for those icy mornings... take care and keep warm, thinking of you all over there in beautiful Kodiak, D&Px
I've been following you in the States for years now. You've helped me wrench on my GSXR and I just bought my first HD. I look forward to following you for years to come my friend. 😁
Thank you for your kind words and awesome long term support brother, and as they say in the world of Harley, 'welcome to the dark side'... drop us a line any time you need to, always happy to pitch in if you need a second opinion.... ride safe!
When I bought my Harley I saw your first video about changing the oil( primary gear and main). I was about to do it but after a lot of research I came to the same conclusion like you did on this video. Gear need thicker oil primary needs thinner (as a matter of fact I use for automatic transmission oil)full synthetic 20 50 on main. Congratulations you have figure it out as well. Keep up the good work. My next trip with my Harley will be from Greece to England so I can pay a visit and let you do the service on my bike! 😊
Even Harley themselves doesn't believe the "one fluid for all three holes" thing anymore. About five years ago Harley sent an internal memo to dealer service departments advising them to stop recommending Syn 3 for use in the primary chaincase. This was due to frequent customer complaints of excessive noise from the primary. It's dedicated fluids for each hole for me.
On my Road King, I switched to synthetic gear oil for the gearbox. Much quieter, and fewer "missed" gear shifts between first and second. Within a year, all of my friends switched too. I continued to run motor oil in the primary. One of my buddies ran ATF in her primary and liked the results.
That's cool Scott, I've run ATF in primary for years, it's a great choice and like you, I'm impressed with a thicker gear oil for the smooth and quierter changes it gives you, plus it's a lot more civilsed dropping in to 1st gear on a cold morning!
Holy moly your video quality has gotten as slick as the new shop man. Very, very nice! I do three holes different, and have something to say, but even HD has taken the line of lots of old mechanics and introduced a heavy gear oil for the gearbox recently. I’m anxious to hear what you say.
Part two: When 4-stroke dirt bikes became popular, I chose not to use Amsoil and just go with the Honda or Yamaha oil because I don't like extended oil changes, and dump the oil every few rides. Fresh oil gives so much better clutch feel off road and I could not afford to dump expensive oil out that often. Now I'm back to running Amsoil in most everything. Mowers, tractors, tillers, all small engines (they don't take much oil and go an entire summer or more on one oil change). I also picked up my first, and second and third Harley in recent years, and all of them are now running Amsoil. Shifting and clutch feel is better than the Syn3 that came in the bikes. I could not find the link to the site I saw recently, but the guy rode to work every day for a month with conventional oil and then for a month with Amsoil. He used a infrared gun to record engine temp at the end of the ride each way for two months. The Amsoil month engine temps averaged 20 degrees cooler.
Del.. Great video.. Harley designed their motorcycles to use the type of oil that they recommend so I figure if it doesn't work it's on Harley not me and so I have always used Harleys Syn3 (or Mobile1) full synthetic 20w50 oil in all three holes in all of my bikes and have never had any problems. A very popular motorcycle parts house told me "if you ride hard you need to use thicker oil in the transmission". Well our club does ride hard so I tried a thicker gear oil from Amsoil for my transmission and didn't like it. It was quite noisy and had a burnt smell after riding so I switched back to the Syn3.
That's interesting brother, it's amazing how we become accustomed to our bikes and grow a 'feel' for them, since filling this oil and the first few miles I've done, the engine is the same, the clutch feels pretty much the same, but the gearbox does feel different... smoother maybe, a little less clunky, definitely not as noisy, but new oil will always do that, so I'm going to run it in for a couple of hundred miles and see how it feels... but so far, I'm really impressed.
I just use conventional oil in my 88” twin cam. Synthetic oil gives it a loud knocking noise. Then I use Harley transmission oil in gear box and primary.
Del, I have never been a fan of Syn 3 because, while it meets the testing requirements for a “full synthetic,” it is (when last I checked) ~40% mineral (non-synthetic) oil, which makes it prone to blanketing (larger molecules migrate to the outside of passages, causing an increase in engine temperature). AMSOIL is, on the other hand, a full synthetic (as are Mobil 1 V Twin, Lucas and a few others). That makes such oils superior to the Harley oil (which is, last I checked, sourced from Citgo in Venezuela).
Wow thank you for that fascinating information Tom, didn't know that, and already we are seeing some improvements, especially in the gearbox with smoother selection and slick changes between gears... thanks for your time Sir, much appreciate your input.
Hello from Canada. Don’t wait, Amsoil is the only oil I have ever used in all three holes in my Harley’s. You will notice a big difference. I only use the K&N oil filter, #-KN-171C it to is the best.
Delboy's Garage, Hi Del, your welcome, I have a Amsoil dealer 10 min drive from my house, very lucky. I service all my bikes over the last 40 plus years, you know what they say, your never to old to learn new ideas and I have by watch your videos, keep up the great work you do. I also purge the oil every time I change the oil, I watched your how to videos, from 1-5, great videos, here is a little trick I would like to share with you. What I have done is taken a used oil filter and cutting the filter in half using a die grinder, then remove all the insides of the filter, wash and remove the burrs around the filters, sand both sides of the two half’s and apply some J-B Weld Epoxy around both half’s, now press the two half’s back together, when the epoxy has dried in 24 hours you now have made a scavenger puck. Now use the puck when doing your oil change. I hope you share this idea with others. I don’t know how to post pictures, but if you e-mail me I can share a picture or two with you and maybe others. My e-mail is louisrodrigues@rogers.com Thanks for all you do!! Thanks Luis
Great video. I live in the U S A (Georgia) and I’ve been running Amsoil in my bike and truck for over 20 years, personally I think it’s the best you can buy, the bikes seem to run and shift better. Everyone has a preference, and that’s fine, there’s more than one quality brand on the market.
Seeing the start of this video reminded me of the Sundays way back in '63 when an older lad I used to hang about with bought a Blue Honda Dream 250cc .... It was HIS intention to keep it 'Sparkly' and 'New' ...... Guess who got THAT job?? ;-)
Nice video Del. Me and my mate use Amsoil oil in our harleys dedicated oil for each hole and it seems to work well over here in Oz with the heat. My gears seem to shift a lot smoother. The motor runs a lot smoother and more freely + I use a reusable oil filter with cooling fins for the heat. Not that you would need one over there LOL. Penny and you have relaxing weekend. Cheers
Great news to hear that mate.. and yeah, "need cooling fins on a filter in England"?.. fat chance of that !!! this time of year im lucky if the oil level rises to "full" in a ten miles ride..! Big storm coming tomorrow, so time to play in the garage again i recon... take care as always.. D&Pxx
The reason your getting a great following from the US and Canada is due to your no BS approach to your builds and techniques. Very professionally approached and even though some things arent always what everyone likes there is always something to take away from the videos. Enough said there, I love the sound of your HOG, when you road tested it on the completion it was throaty outside when you jumped on it. Oils....Amsoil in the engine for me, primary and transmission are both coventional oils, keeps the noise level reduced and much better clutching after the primary heats up. Usual ride is 200-300 miles rides for a day so my Street Glide gets the temps up. The gasoline is still another issue......my bike states Premium, I use regular,,,runs better and gets better mileage, the computer just does its adjusting and wah lah...we are off. I changed using the premium 25K ago, Im at 48K now and engine is clean as heck. Always look forward to your lastest Hollywood shows. (>: Shiney side up folks.........
Hi Scott.. Thank you so much for your kind and generous words my friend, im glad that you enjoy the videos, it makes it all worthwhile with the time and effort it takes to make them.. It's good to hear you like Amsoil, and with your mileage and use it's getting properly put to the test. Have a great weekend, ride safe and stay in touch.. Del.
One other note, Del. I’d always used the Harley product (Formula+) in my transmission and primary on both of our Harleys. But, last week I installed a Barnett lock-up pressure plate on my ‘06 Road King and, seeing as I was going to have the outer primary cover off, elected to spend an extra $160 and replace the stock clutch plates (they had 119K miles on them) with Barnett’s extra-plate carbon-fiber kit. The instructions that came with the kit said to use any motorcycle-rated primary oil, but noted they’d had numerous reports of clutch plates sticking, particularly in cooler weather, when Formula+ was used. So, now I’m having strong second thoughts about Formula+ as well. I still use Harley’s steering-head grease; it is the only product I’ve found that does not melt out in the Florida summer. But, for my other lubricants, I suspect the Motor Company may not be the preferred source.
Hi Tom... looking at the claims made by Amsoil on their Primary Chain Case oil, it may do the job a bit better.. ive used F+ a few times, and it does seem to gum the plates together, specially first thing in the morning with that initial engagement of 1st gear... i had to paddle the clutch lever half a dozen times to get them to separate, or it slammed into gear like a sledge hammer.... now already with the Amsoil Primary oil, it's a single action, "clutch lever in, wait 2 seconds, drop the shifter" for a nice smooth thump into gear with no harshness or metallic noise... and the pull away is smooth, clean and not grabby..! I'd say that riding in FL you'll put it to the test a lot more then i ever will... maybe worth a try.?
Haven't been on TH-cam much lately. Playing catchup on your channel. Shop looks great! looks like your getting ready for the riding season. I have to start getting my bikes ready too.
Hey buddy, good to hear from you again.. yep, its about that time again, get all the bikes ready for the season so you can just drag 'em out and ride any time..
Been waiting for your update on this. If you can’t tell a difference on the gearbox fluid I’ll be surprised. Primary is pretty flexible IMO. All I know on mine is that Syn 20/50 lets you hear more valve train noise. I use all Drag Specialties mineral oils for the last two changes and I’ve been happy. It’s 85/140 in the gearbox, 25/60 in the motor, and whatever their primary oil is made of. I know certain people rave endlessly about the Amsoil, and have no doubt it’s good, just not sure how much is hype. Now people are raving about Tribodyn oils too. So far, I’m please with the aforementioned fluids for my 04’ TC88.
Hey Patrick.. Thank you for the useful feedback sir.. i certainly have noticed some dramatic changes in all three applications.. the transmission is quieter and changed gear so much smoother (only had 20/50 in there before).. and you are absolutely right, i can certainly hear more valve train noise.. and hearing you say that has truly allayed my fears because it was way quieter before on the SE Syn3 oil.. still 20/50, but for some reason, no valve train ticking.... i was even thinking that my oil level was catastrophically low for some reason... but if its common and a known result.. then im happy that its nothing drastic.... I'm currently off the road for a week or two while i paint the tins again, then once its back together im going to post up a full report video on the changes ive noticed with the Amsoil.... Thank you again for your input, it's been truly helpful... Have a good weekend.. Del.
@@Moonfleet41 You’re most welcome, but it’s just ones guys opinion. Glad you liked the gearbox, and it’s interesting that HD has finally admitted that gear oil is actually a good idea for the gears. A local Mechanic who’s been building and repairing ALL types of bikes (street and track) for 40+ years gets credit for me going this route. He’s been telling people this for decades, and says it makes believers out of all save the most peculiar types. I would go full Syn, but I change frequently enough it doesn’t matter, especially with my mild style of riding.
Great Stuff ! About 40k miles ago I started with Mobil 1 Synthetic oil and 80-90 Lucas gear oil.. My bike mechanic friend only uses the amsoil at his shop, so Im gonna give amsoil a whirl.. If your Texas supplier is priced right I will get with Joe's shop and buy from them.. I do my own servicing to save $$
I ride Aprilia Pegaso 650 cube, but enjoyed much this Harley servicing video... )) Thank you so much for what you do, Del! And definitely my week end will be great now. Even the weather is changed to sunny now )))
I been running Mobil one 20w 50 in all three holes for 27,000 miles and never had a problem. I did just buy Bel Ray 85/140 for my trans but haven't changed it.
One oil or three, the most important thing is to keep it changed on time. HD is fine with either choice, so long as it's the correct grade(s). I've always run one, but this time around, going to go with 3 just to see how I like it. That's the real issue, how do *you* like it, how does it work for *you*. Some people look to squeeze every last bit of performance out of their bike, others just want to go cruise somewhere and aren't so technical minded. It's always been that way, likely always will. Some day folks will be debating the finer points of which reactant to use in a neutron drive or something! :)
Early days yet, but already finding smoother gear changes and a slightly more comfortable clutch action... I guess thicker oil in the gearbox will always smooth things out! Time will tell and if it ever stops raining, I might do a ride vlog just to cover it!!
Yup, I’m from the USA. I like your Harley videos. I also like that you always explain “why” you do what you do. I’m guessing you’re somewhere in England where I suppose Triumph bikes prevail. I like bonnevilles from back in the day. Great vids you make.
Switched to Amsoil on my Road King a few years back. I use separate oils for mine. Made a difference on the way the whole bike ran. On my bike the engine ran cooler and smoother while the transmission shifted much more cleanly.
Amsoil is overrated, expensive and their website sucks. I was a dealer but I will not continue as one. That's just another way Amsoil gets more money out of your pocket. Just go to their website and find (look-up) oil for a 2019 Harley-Davidson. It only shows TRIUMPH. One bike for all 2019 models is a joke. Also shows management in Amsoil doesn't have a clue what users need. I used Harley-Davidson oil in my Harley-Davidson bike. I go to my local dealer and buy it by the case. It is the best you can put into a Harley-Davidson, period. But Del is correct that you should use specific oils in each hole. Cheers!
I dont know about 3 oils and i aint really a Harley fan but i do love that bike Del, you did a great job on that. Just this afteroon i was chatting to my neighbour and told him about the paint scheme you did.
Ok Del now since you are getting 50% or more of us American folks here, maybe it's time for you and Penny to come over for a vacation and go riding. I did try Amsoil in my Fatboy just in the trans. I did notice a difference. It ran smoother.
Thank you Sir, yes indeed you are correct, it is way past time we came Stateside for a visit... life just never seems to afford us the time... but it will!
I use Motul 7100 20/50 in my 883 sporty, and Revtech Sportster Primary oil in the primary case. In fact I remember watching one of your videos a few years back recommending a very good fitting T27 for the derby cover! Good advice. 👍
Sure thing buddy, Sportsters are wonderfully flexible, you can even use a good quality synthetic 20/50 in the transmission and it'll do fine! And yep, T27 unique to Harleys, they call it the imperial torx bit.
Thank you very much for the information, I am in texas and I didn't know about this plan, i don't go through a lot of oil but just by buying 2 times you save money already.
Just sharing the link buddy, as we cover so much in the UK, thought it was time to reach out and find a contact or two for our viewers in America, specially seeing as you are just over half our audience... thanks mate.
Hey Delboy, In the future, instead of pulling your derby cover to change your primary oil, you should pull the inspection cover so you can also check and/or adj your primary chain. This is as long as you're not adjusting your clutch. It's also easier to pour your oil in. Later
How do you check the level mate...? It is essential to remove the derby cover to observe that the oil doesn't come any higher than the bottom of the plates, by all means, you can fill it through the chain hole, but make sure you check it by looking through the derby hole, it's pretty critical that you don't overfill it...
i put the exact same oils in my '07 FXST last oil change. im happy with it. enough so, that when i change the oils on my '11 Road King in about a month, ill be going with the 3 separate Amsoil products. it currently has Mobil 20-50 synthetic V-Twin oil in all 3 holes. it has done fine with that, but i want both bikes set up the same. there is an Amsoil dealer here in town that will be giving me the discounts, since my son and i will both be buying on the same order. hope youre happy with that set up on yours!
Thanks Dave, I really value your feedback mate, it's the first time using this for us, and it's great to hear so many great endorsements from seasoned users... thanks again for the peace of mind buddy.
@@Moonfleet41 i know, HD recommends the same oil for all 3 holes. that just somehow seems wrong to me. and im a FIRM believer in Amsoil. it was in a Goldwing i bought a few years back. when i changed the oil, i went to a different brand synthetic. the bike shifted really hard, and you had to work to find neutral. after about 300 miles, i changed it back to Amsoil. problem solved. no bs. fact!
I’m part of your American following, love your work, I used your chain tension video to do my bike. I wish I had a Harley to try what you’re doing here, love my Scrambler though.
Thanks Matt, that's awesome news... as our Penny has a Scrambler, I've done an Amsoil change on that on the next video, using their metric 10-40 oil, thanks for your support, it's awesome to know we have so many cool viewers in the USA!
I am an Amsoil dealer, just to pass on some info. Amsoil is mostly sold through a network of individual dealers; anywhere that you see it in a retail shop, that shop buys via a dealer. (Even if the retailer orders directly from Amsoil, their account is tied to a specific dealer.)
Thanks for the info to the USA! If the two of you ever do come to the USA come on up to Caribou Maine summer time only it's to cold and way to much snow to ride right now here.
Hi Adam, welcome Sir, good to hear from you... hope you're seeing the first signs of Spring now as we are starting to... riding season is round the corner!
I have a question on the tires life. Should one replace only if when tread wears out or should there be a timeline to replace them even if there is ample tread depth.
Tyres do dry out and can crack over time, so No, they don't last for ever.. it depends on what environment they have lived in, and they all have a date on them.. so check yours out and maybe make a judgement..!! if in doubt, then its never Wrong to replace them aye.!
Mouth out of sync with words at 2.30, thought I was having an acid flashback. I use Dino 20/50 for engine and primary, Bel-ray big twin in the gearbox. Just saying. Did use Amsoil all round , but expensive as buggery in Australia.
Britain has given America so much over the years, settlers, rock and punk... And now (we hope) an ambassador with Brit humor.. Get over there Dellboy!! (Please come back too!)
Checking to see if i get tesponce since video so old my line coming from side casing to my pump had a pin hole dripping oil right at the pump nipple so to replace this it looks like i have to take gear box side covers to get to it ? N buy new gaskets or make a gasket lube ? Is this correct
I’m new to Harleys but I think there’s a lot of sense in Scotty Kilmer on here, when he says you should use the original oil the engine was designed to run on. The clearances are a certain size because they are designed to be filled with a certain oil, and changing that for a modern better oil may not always be the best thing to do. I’ll have a look in a mo and see if you’ve done a follow up vid yet. 👍
That is a common sentiment to stand with recommended oils for the engine's design, quite obviously. Don't forget that oils develop and advance and become better at what they do and who wouldn't upgrade to a better oil, if it's available, later down the line... there is a follow up to this, check in the Dyna Playlist, I tried Amsoil separate products, fully synthetic, and found them to be much better in many ways.
I feel the clutch and transmission separate from the engine lube is more of a contamination thing keeping clutch disk grime out of the engine. How many bikes you know have hydraulic lifters and other areas where small metal dust could possibly damage? Been working on Harley and other brands since the late 70 s Thanks for the video!
Hi Del, last owner of the buell I just bought uses amsoil sae 20w-50 for both primary and engine. The oil bottle states engine, trans and primary . Should I change or stick to same oil. I do find getting neutral a bit tricky is that a possible overfilled primary as per another of your vids. Thanks again.
Yes possibly, if the primary has too much oil, it will stick the clutch plates together, making it difficult to engage and dis-engage gears... the Amsoil 20w-50 is rated for all three holes, so it's fine, but they also do a primary fluid, which I found a little better with smoother gear changes, but check the level first!
got my 2004 flstci yesterday my first Harley whats best 1oil 0r 3 interested on the gear change if it was smoother great vids been watching since bandit days
Hello, love the Videos. I'm new to DIY especially on my HD Softail Fatboy FXSTFI. I took a nice ride and set it in the yard to head out again and had some rain. LONG story short. Got rain in the oil and after changing it all and getting the Nasty out I noticed the oil has a DIFFICULT time getting to the Filter. I even left it off and started the bike to see how BIG a problem I was looking at. BIG was the word. Oil barley creeped out. So no return through the engine back to Tank. Any thoughts or is it time to head back to the Shop....
Glad to hear it buddy, am finding the transmission already smoother, the first engagement on a cold morning is a bit less aggressive, and changing between gears is a lot more slick!
I use the three oils (Motor, primairy and gear) on my bike (Nighttrain 2007)and got over 185000kms on it. For the motoroil i use 20w50 multigrade, and the is running just fine with it. I'm a amateur mechanic and work on all sorts of HD's, and they all running fine. I dont believe in "full syntetic oil", for sre not on a used bike. Am i wrong here? great vids , by the way. Grtz from Antwerp, Belgium.😉
Delroy.. that's a beauty.. do you still have that bike ?man I always love those Softailbob fenders! My man you have to tell me what song that was phenomenal song I have to get it thank you so much for the video all your videos are effective and professional!!
Hey there, thank you for your kind words, sadly I sold that Harley a couple of years ago... but it was a fabulous bike and I put a lot of work in to it!... thank you for the kind words on the music, they're an American band called 'Feast of Friends', the first track was 'Utopia' and the second track was 'Man and God'... here's a link to their page: www.reverbnation.com/OFFRIENDS
Thanks for that feedback Randy, and it's good to know it runs cooler, as the weather has been so cold I've not noticed that a lot yet, I am picking up a bit more valve train noise, do you find the same?
Hi Del, great vid mate, oil it's the life blood of the bike it all makes sense.. As always have a great weekend and get out for a run on that Harley mate.. 👍🏍️
Thanks buddy, would love to, looks like we're all battening down for a storm this weekend, but we've got a Sportster service to do, so might just shut the doors, put the heating on and get on with it!! Soon be Spring aye?!
Hard work finally paying of for Del an Penny, grats guys and gals! Quick Q though, I've changed the clutch plates on my 250R about 2 weeks ago, ran out of time with the new gasket and oil plug washer, should i soak my clutch plates again, or are they still fine? I've loosely fitted the clutch cover on.
Great vid Del, if I had £7000 I would have bitten your hand off when I saw your Facebook post. Never been a Harley fan boy but having watched that transform definitely got my attention... 👍
Hi, please correct me if I am wrong but as per my understanding, on the Sportster I think there is a common sump for all 3 ? I am thinking of shifting from the Syn3 to Amsoil Sae60 or the Amsoil 15W60 , so that it can help with the high temps. The temps dont go down much low where I live, the lowest ever is 10 degree celcius so I don't think I need to worry about cold temperatures much. My riding involves a lot of stop and go traffic so was thinking to putting a higher weight oil to help. Please suggest if any of those would be good ?
Yep good one Del, must admit I didn’t know my Harley had 3 different oils...oops. It only has 300 miles on it after a year. Guess I should find out where the dip stick is. Please don’t laugh to loud as I completely love my bike.....love even looking at it. Great vid mate, I’m off to the bike shed tomorrow and I promise I’ll check the oils. Kind regards. Beans.
ha ha.. it sounds like you need to drag it out and ride it a bit more Beans me old duck... you'll find out a lot about it by playing with it more often..!!!!!
I am a Preferred Customer of Amsoil products....periodically. I pay the membership, stock up a big inventory, let the membership expire in 6 months. A year or two later, I repeat. While I'm a customer, the lower price of the products and free shipping offset the membership fee and I'm still money ahead. I've used Amsoil products in cars, metric bikes and my Sportster for decades and I've never had a problem with any of them. I highly recommend Amsoil. No, I don't get paid anything for saying this. I genuinely love the stuff. My favorite motorcycle oil filters are NAPA Gold 21-micron filters which are made by WIX. The Evo engines need the higher micron rating for better flow. The newer TC and M8 engines are OK with the 5-micron filters, same as the metric bikes.
Hi Del just rewatching the Amsoil vid, did you get the oil from the USA, or locally, cos I followed the link & couldn't get a UK order, just the Northern USA & Canada came up, thanks in advance 👍
Yes mate, the link is to an American supplier because it was in answer to many of our American viewers who are more than half our audience these days, who pointed out that every link I post is to UK companies... so just this once, I put a US link for the guys over there.. but if you do an open search, there are UK suppliers of Amsoil who offer the same service.
@@Moonfleet41 thanks Del, I ended up getting it all from.Demon Tweeks, I have read such good reports about Amsoil, & what with you using it as well, it was a no brainer, all the best to you both 👍 x
I just saw this video and went looking for the follow up on what you thought about the difference in Trans and Primary oils. Was it embedded in another video? Thanks.
HI Dave, I did plan to do a feedback on that, wanted to ride a few hundred miles first to let everything settle in and then the current situation has meant I've not been out on the bike for weeks... am saving it for the time when we're all back together out on the roads!
@@Moonfleet41 Thanks; I wasn't sure if you had time to squeeze it in before the quarantine. Just acquired a 16 Slim S in November. Looking to do some maintenance before riding season is in full swing. Stay safe and healthy!
you produce some real good quality content. Your video's transcend geography. it is a small world anymore. you have don't a lot for the motorcycle community. So glad you have America in your viewing audience. cool. you do need to ride here one day. you will be amazed on the options.
Thank you Robert, it is an honor to have such a loyal and enthusiastic following from the USA, we even hear regularly from viewers on Alaska, one guy in Kodiak even... and of course not forgetting many also from Central and South America where guys have to do a lot more to take care of their own bikes than we do in the richer countries of the world. We will get over for a visit some day, once we can get on top of life and make some time for us, its the first port of call.. Have a great weekend sir and thank you for your constant support... D&Px
I'm checking out the link now. The only Harley kits I see comes with just the one type of oil. Which kit did you order with different primary and transmission oil?
You ever get a chance to get over here to the US we Definitely have to go out on a ride got some beautiful country over here in Oregon. Oh I had to ask what's the difference between a pound and a Quinn Hope I'm pronouncing that right lol😁
Ha ha, The word it "Quid", its just a nick name for Pound.. it's believed to come from Latin "Quid Pro Quo", meaning fair exchange "something for something".. a quaint remnant from history that stuck..maybe like the word "Bucks".. from when Deer skins were currency..! And id love to ride in Oregon, what a beautiful state..! thank you for your support.. Del.
The different numbers just mean that the oil you ask about has a higher and lower heat rating so can withstand greater extremes in both directions, so yes, it'd be fine.
Here you Louis, here's a link for your Sir! www.spanner-monkey.co.uk/Wiha-Torque-T-Handle-ST-Plus-TorqueVario-Set-29234?search=torque%20vario&description=true
I recently found your channel and just subscribed to it. I purchased all the items needed to do the 3-hole change. However, when I reread the manual (2021 FLTRXSE - CVO RG) it indicates that I need to change the engine oil at 5k, the primary at 10k, and the transmission at 20k. Based on your 3 hole change video, you do change all 3 every 5k or do you follow the manual? If you do change all 3 at 5k, can you share your reasons for doing so? Thank you very much…. From Northern Virginia.
Thanks for the sub and welcome aboard, Those service intervals are correct in both cases, Your bike is a 1 year old Touring model, and in this video the bike was a 20 year old Dyna, things have changed a lot in 20 years, much longer service intervals and many other conveniences too, such as self adjusting primary chain and clutch, servicing is a lot easier than it was two decades ago. Of course, if you have just invested in a new '21 RG, then why not treat it to all new fluids.. the manual says when you 'must' change them, doesn't say you can't do it early.! Nice bike BTW.!
@@Moonfleet41 thank you so much for the response and for sharing your rationale, especially the comment about the manual (when you must change oils by). That makes a lot of sense and helps put things in proper perspective. I fell in love with the bike and had to have it….thank you. Ride and be safe.
I don’t have a bike. Google must’ve sent me here based on the frequent entry of “all three holes” in my search history.
I only have two holes and I’m sitting on one of them “) If you count ears and nostrils I’d have six
That made me chortle
I get it
Hahahahaha! Very good
Gotta keep ‘em airtight!
Great video, thank you. Just returned from the dealer for a 5,000 mile service, $430. I don’t mind paying for a service while I go have breakfast, IF they dealt with the issues, they didn’t. I had a plastic gum wrapper keeping the left side cover from wearing away the oil line at the rear of the engine. When they pulled it around, the cover was not seated in the grommets and the wrapper was still there.
Nice job on the service, oil on the gaskets and everything torqued properly. Clean!
Video is very well done! Great job pointing out filling the filter, lubing the gasket, and changing the o-ring on the drain plug. Spot on!
Most welcome buddy.. Glad it was helpful!
Delboy's Garage, Hi Del, your welcome, I have a Amsoil dealer 10 min drive from my house, very lucky. I service all my bikes over the last 40 plus years, you know what they say, your never to old to learn new ideas and I have by watch your videos, keep up the great work you do. I also purge the oil every time I change the oil, I watched your how to videos, from 1-5, great videos, here is a little trick I would like to share with you. What I have done is taken a used oil filter and cutting the filter in half using a die grinder, then remove all the insides of the filter, wash and remove the burrs around the filters, sand both sides of the two half’s and apply some J-B Weld Epoxy around both half’s, now press the two half’s back together, when the epoxy has dried in 24 hours you now have made a scavenger puck. Now use the puck when doing your oil change. I hope you share this idea with others. I don’t know how to post pictures, but if you e-mail me I can share a picture or two with you and maybe others. My e-mail is louisrodrigues@rogers.com
Thanks for all you do!!
Thanks
Luis
I just came across this particular issue and really appreciate your covering this, even 3/4 years down the road. I am putting Lucas in my oil bag, but have not yet done the tranny and primary, so this will really be helpful. p.s. - your video was totally professional!!!
Thank you for your kind feedback, I'm really glad the video could help you out brother.
I've used Amsoil products in my last 2 Harleys. Couldn't be happier. Good stuff.
Great video! Helped me out a lot. I am a new Harley rider and the detail of the oils was great 👍
Right with you, Del. Amsoil only in my police bike. The Harley dealer I go to sells all the brands...Redline, Screamin' Give me your Gold coins oil, etc. When I've been in the back with the service techs, the majority whisper to me what they use.........AMSOIL. Good choice.
Thank you Sir, it's great to have such endorsement, the bike already feels better, certainly on gear changes and that all important first engagement on a cold morning, a lot softer and less aggressive, definitely an improvement!
Both my boys are auto mechanics and one works on Harleys with his father-in-law (certified Harley Mech) as well. They have gone to all Amsoil at the Harley Shop, and now we've got it in our vehicles as well, and loving it! My little dual-sport (one-holer) likes premium oil too, but haven't gone to Amsoil just yet! :-) I was thinking of you two when I took some photos down our street yesterday with snow stacked to 4' on each side of the road, maybe we'll get to start riding by late March! Your bike looks and sounds awesome, Del...Cheers!
Hey Allen, how wonderful to hear from you! And how amazing, we've never seen snow that deep... 3" of snow here in England and they declare a state of emergency!! We had some wind and rain overnight this weekend, a few trees blown down and watching the news, you'd think it was the end of the world... don't they love the drama! But at least we are lucky enough to be able to ride all year round, with maybe a few days punctuation for those icy mornings... take care and keep warm, thinking of you all over there in beautiful Kodiak, D&Px
I've been following you in the States for years now. You've helped me wrench on my GSXR and I just bought my first HD. I look forward to following you for years to come my friend. 😁
Thank you for your kind words and awesome long term support brother, and as they say in the world of Harley, 'welcome to the dark side'... drop us a line any time you need to, always happy to pitch in if you need a second opinion.... ride safe!
When I bought my Harley I saw your first video about changing the oil( primary gear and main). I was about to do it but after a lot of research I came to the same conclusion like you did on this video. Gear need thicker oil primary needs thinner (as a matter of fact I use for automatic transmission oil)full synthetic 20 50 on main. Congratulations you have figure it out as well. Keep up the good work. My next trip with my Harley will be from Greece to England so I can pay a visit and let you do the service on my bike! 😊
Even Harley themselves doesn't believe the "one fluid for all three holes" thing anymore. About five years ago Harley sent an internal memo to dealer service departments advising them to stop recommending Syn 3 for use in the primary chaincase. This was due to frequent customer complaints of excessive noise from the primary. It's dedicated fluids for each hole for me.
On my Road King, I switched to synthetic gear oil for the gearbox. Much quieter, and fewer "missed" gear shifts between first and second. Within a year, all of my friends switched too. I continued to run motor oil in the primary. One of my buddies ran ATF in her primary and liked the results.
That's cool Scott, I've run ATF in primary for years, it's a great choice and like you, I'm impressed with a thicker gear oil for the smooth and quierter changes it gives you, plus it's a lot more civilsed dropping in to 1st gear on a cold morning!
I use 3 separate Amsoil oils. Still love that paint and the bike sounds great!
Holy moly your video quality has gotten as slick as the new shop man. Very, very nice! I do three holes different, and have something to say, but even HD has taken the line of lots of old mechanics and introduced a heavy gear oil for the gearbox recently. I’m anxious to hear what you say.
Yes ur correct friend HD Does a gear oil now the part No. is 62600093 80/140 thick as Pea Soup 😉😀
Part two: When 4-stroke dirt bikes became popular, I chose not to use Amsoil and just go with the Honda or Yamaha oil because I don't like extended oil changes, and dump the oil every few rides. Fresh oil gives so much better clutch feel off road and I could not afford to dump expensive oil out that often.
Now I'm back to running Amsoil in most everything. Mowers, tractors, tillers, all small engines (they don't take much oil and go an entire summer or more on one oil change). I also picked up my first, and second and third Harley in recent years, and all of them are now running Amsoil. Shifting and clutch feel is better than the Syn3 that came in the bikes. I could not find the link to the site I saw recently, but the guy rode to work every day for a month with conventional oil and then for a month with Amsoil. He used a infrared gun to record engine temp at the end of the ride each way for two months. The Amsoil month engine temps averaged 20 degrees cooler.
Thanks for your feedback my friend, sounds like it was a good choice.
Pretty straight forward for my Sportster, the two Harley oils engine and primary.
Del.. Great video.. Harley designed their motorcycles to use the type of oil that they recommend so I figure if it doesn't work it's on Harley not me and so I have always used Harleys Syn3 (or Mobile1) full synthetic 20w50 oil in all three holes in all of my bikes and have never had any problems. A very popular motorcycle parts house told me "if you ride hard you need to use thicker oil in the transmission". Well our club does ride hard so I tried a thicker gear oil from Amsoil for my transmission and didn't like it. It was quite noisy and had a burnt smell after riding so I switched back to the Syn3.
That's interesting brother, it's amazing how we become accustomed to our bikes and grow a 'feel' for them, since filling this oil and the first few miles I've done, the engine is the same, the clutch feels pretty much the same, but the gearbox does feel different... smoother maybe, a little less clunky, definitely not as noisy, but new oil will always do that, so I'm going to run it in for a couple of hundred miles and see how it feels... but so far, I'm really impressed.
I just use conventional oil in my 88” twin cam. Synthetic oil gives it a loud knocking noise. Then I use Harley transmission oil in gear box and primary.
Del, I have never been a fan of Syn 3 because, while it meets the testing requirements for a “full synthetic,” it is (when last I checked) ~40% mineral (non-synthetic) oil, which makes it prone to blanketing (larger molecules migrate to the outside of passages, causing an increase in engine temperature). AMSOIL is, on the other hand, a full synthetic (as are Mobil 1 V Twin, Lucas and a few others). That makes such oils superior to the Harley oil (which is, last I checked, sourced from Citgo in Venezuela).
Wow thank you for that fascinating information Tom, didn't know that, and already we are seeing some improvements, especially in the gearbox with smoother selection and slick changes between gears... thanks for your time Sir, much appreciate your input.
Hello from Canada. Don’t wait, Amsoil is the only oil I have ever used in all three holes in my Harley’s. You will notice a big difference. I only use the K&N oil filter, #-KN-171C it to is the best.
Thank you for that sound endorsement Sir, I have already noticed much improvement! Ride safe, and thanks for your support.
Delboy's Garage, Hi Del, your welcome, I have a Amsoil dealer 10 min drive from my house, very lucky. I service all my bikes over the last 40 plus years, you know what they say, your never to old to learn new ideas and I have by watch your videos, keep up the great work you do. I also purge the oil every time I change the oil, I watched your how to videos, from 1-5, great videos, here is a little trick I would like to share with you. What I have done is taken a used oil filter and cutting the filter in half using a die grinder, then remove all the insides of the filter, wash and remove the burrs around the filters, sand both sides of the two half’s and apply some J-B Weld Epoxy around both half’s, now press the two half’s back together, when the epoxy has dried in 24 hours you now have made a scavenger puck. Now use the puck when doing your oil change. I hope you share this idea with others. I don’t know how to post pictures, but if you e-mail me I can share a picture or two with you and maybe others. My e-mail is louisrodrigues@rogers.com
Thanks for all you do!!
Thanks
Luis
Great video. I live in the U S A (Georgia) and I’ve been running Amsoil in my bike and truck for over 20 years, personally I think it’s the best you can buy, the bikes seem to run and shift better. Everyone has a preference, and that’s fine, there’s more than one quality brand on the market.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP HAVE A NICE DAY HAPPY HOLIDAYS
Thank you Ruben for your kind words, and Happy Holiday to you too.
Seeing the start of this video reminded me of the Sundays way back in '63 when an older lad I used to hang about with bought a Blue Honda Dream 250cc .... It was HIS intention to keep it 'Sparkly' and 'New' ...... Guess who got THAT job?? ;-)
Nice video Del. Me and my mate use Amsoil oil in our harleys dedicated oil for each hole and it seems to work well over here in Oz with the heat. My gears seem to shift a lot smoother. The motor runs a lot smoother and more freely + I use a reusable oil filter with cooling fins for the heat. Not that you would need one over there LOL. Penny and you have relaxing weekend. Cheers
Great news to hear that mate.. and yeah, "need cooling fins on a filter in England"?.. fat chance of that !!! this time of year im lucky if the oil level rises to "full" in a ten miles ride..! Big storm coming tomorrow, so time to play in the garage again i recon... take care as always.. D&Pxx
The reason your getting a great following from the US and Canada is due to your no BS approach to your builds and techniques. Very professionally approached and even though some things arent always what everyone likes there is always something to take away from the videos. Enough said there, I love the sound of your HOG, when you road tested it on the completion it was throaty outside when you jumped on it.
Oils....Amsoil in the engine for me, primary and transmission are both coventional oils, keeps the noise level reduced and much better clutching after the primary heats up. Usual ride is 200-300 miles rides for a day so my Street Glide gets the temps up. The gasoline is still another issue......my bike states Premium, I use regular,,,runs better and gets better mileage, the computer just does its adjusting and wah lah...we are off. I changed using the premium 25K ago, Im at 48K now and engine is clean as heck. Always look forward to your lastest Hollywood shows. (>: Shiney side up folks.........
Hi Scott.. Thank you so much for your kind and generous words my friend, im glad that you enjoy the videos, it makes it all worthwhile with the time and effort it takes to make them..
It's good to hear you like Amsoil, and with your mileage and use it's getting properly put to the test. Have a great weekend, ride safe and stay in touch..
Del.
One other note, Del. I’d always used the Harley product (Formula+) in my transmission and primary on both of our Harleys. But, last week I installed a Barnett lock-up pressure plate on my ‘06 Road King and, seeing as I was going to have the outer primary cover off, elected to spend an extra $160 and replace the stock clutch plates (they had 119K miles on them) with Barnett’s extra-plate carbon-fiber kit. The instructions that came with the kit said to use any motorcycle-rated primary oil, but noted they’d had numerous reports of clutch plates sticking, particularly in cooler weather, when Formula+ was used. So, now I’m having strong second thoughts about Formula+ as well.
I still use Harley’s steering-head grease; it is the only product I’ve found that does not melt out in the Florida summer. But, for my other lubricants, I suspect the Motor Company may not be the preferred source.
Hi Tom... looking at the claims made by Amsoil on their Primary Chain Case oil, it may do the job a bit better.. ive used F+ a few times, and it does seem to gum the plates together, specially first thing in the morning with that initial engagement of 1st gear... i had to paddle the clutch lever half a dozen times to get them to separate, or it slammed into gear like a sledge hammer.... now already with the Amsoil Primary oil, it's a single action, "clutch lever in, wait 2 seconds, drop the shifter" for a nice smooth thump into gear with no harshness or metallic noise... and the pull away is smooth, clean and not grabby..! I'd say that riding in FL you'll put it to the test a lot more then i ever will... maybe worth a try.?
Haven't been on TH-cam much lately. Playing catchup on your channel. Shop looks great! looks like your getting ready for the riding season. I have to start getting my bikes ready too.
Hey buddy, good to hear from you again.. yep, its about that time again, get all the bikes ready for the season so you can just drag 'em out and ride any time..
Been waiting for your update on this. If you can’t tell a difference on the gearbox fluid I’ll be surprised. Primary is pretty flexible IMO. All I know on mine is that Syn 20/50 lets you hear more valve train noise. I use all Drag Specialties mineral oils for the last two changes and I’ve been happy. It’s 85/140 in the gearbox, 25/60 in the motor, and whatever their primary oil is made of. I know certain people rave endlessly about the Amsoil, and have no doubt it’s good, just not sure how much is hype. Now people are raving about Tribodyn oils too. So far, I’m please with the aforementioned fluids for my 04’ TC88.
Hey Patrick.. Thank you for the useful feedback sir.. i certainly have noticed some dramatic changes in all three applications.. the transmission is quieter and changed gear so much smoother (only had 20/50 in there before).. and you are absolutely right, i can certainly hear more valve train noise.. and hearing you say that has truly allayed my fears because it was way quieter before on the SE Syn3 oil.. still 20/50, but for some reason, no valve train ticking.... i was even thinking that my oil level was catastrophically low for some reason... but if its common and a known result.. then im happy that its nothing drastic.... I'm currently off the road for a week or two while i paint the tins again, then once its back together im going to post up a full report video on the changes ive noticed with the Amsoil.... Thank you again for your input, it's been truly helpful... Have a good weekend.. Del.
@@Moonfleet41 You’re most welcome, but it’s just ones guys opinion. Glad you liked the gearbox, and it’s interesting that HD has finally admitted that gear oil is actually a good idea for the gears. A local Mechanic who’s been building and repairing ALL types of bikes (street and track) for 40+ years gets credit for me going this route. He’s been telling people this for decades, and says it makes believers out of all save the most peculiar types. I would go full Syn, but I change frequently enough it doesn’t matter, especially with my mild style of riding.
Great Stuff ! About 40k miles ago I started with Mobil 1 Synthetic oil and 80-90 Lucas gear oil.. My bike mechanic friend only uses the amsoil at his shop, so Im gonna give amsoil a whirl.. If your Texas supplier is priced right I will get with Joe's shop and buy from them.. I do my own servicing to save $$
Half expected the Amsoil sign to fall off the wall... ; )
Looks like you’ve figured it out.
More shots of the V-twin firing up please.
That startup looked like a process lol
I ride Aprilia Pegaso 650 cube, but enjoyed much this Harley servicing video... )) Thank you so much for what you do, Del! And definitely my week end will be great now. Even the weather is changed to sunny now )))
I been running Mobil one 20w 50 in all three holes for 27,000 miles and never had a problem.
I did just buy Bel Ray 85/140 for my trans but haven't changed it.
I'm a dedicated fan of the maintenance style vids! Love it!
Yes, me as well, very well said!`
Thank you from over here in the States. Always enjoy your videos even if I’m not doing that particular job.
One oil or three, the most important thing is to keep it changed on time. HD is fine with either choice, so long as it's the correct grade(s). I've always run one, but this time around, going to go with 3 just to see how I like it. That's the real issue, how do *you* like it, how does it work for *you*. Some people look to squeeze every last bit of performance out of their bike, others just want to go cruise somewhere and aren't so technical minded. It's always been that way, likely always will. Some day folks will be debating the finer points of which reactant to use in a neutron drive or something! :)
Early days yet, but already finding smoother gear changes and a slightly more comfortable clutch action... I guess thicker oil in the gearbox will always smooth things out! Time will tell and if it ever stops raining, I might do a ride vlog just to cover it!!
Yup, I’m from the USA. I like your Harley videos. I also like that you always explain “why” you do what you do. I’m guessing you’re somewhere in England where I suppose Triumph bikes prevail. I like bonnevilles from back in the day. Great vids you make.
Thank you James, yes we are in England, and I wouldn't say Triumph is dominant here, but certainly plentiful!
I use Harley Davidson's Screaming Eagle SYN3 synthetic 20W50 oil 👌🏽
Switched to Amsoil on my Road King a few years back. I use separate oils for mine. Made a difference on the way the whole bike ran. On my bike the engine ran cooler and smoother while the transmission shifted much more cleanly.
Thank you so much for the valuable feedback my friend, im finding this myself already after only a hundred miles..!
Amsoil is overrated, expensive and their website sucks. I was a dealer but I will not continue as one. That's just another way Amsoil gets more money out of your pocket. Just go to their website and find (look-up) oil for a 2019 Harley-Davidson. It only shows TRIUMPH. One bike for all 2019 models is a joke. Also shows management in Amsoil doesn't have a clue what users need. I used Harley-Davidson oil in my Harley-Davidson bike. I go to my local dealer and buy it by the case. It is the best you can put into a Harley-Davidson, period. But Del is correct that you should use specific oils in each hole. Cheers!
Just unsubscribed to this channel. Sucks that this company has infected our delboy. I have read so many bad things about amsoil marketing.
AMSOIL is a marketing company, a Quacker State spinoff.
Haha It's like you had seen my search history from yesterday when you made this video. You're awesome man. Keep making videos
Seen all 3 holes and clicked by habit. Not what I expected!
I dont know about 3 oils and i aint really a Harley fan but i do love that bike Del, you did a great job on that. Just this afteroon i was chatting to my neighbour and told him about the paint scheme you did.
Ok Del now since you are getting 50% or more of us American folks here, maybe it's time for you and Penny to come over for a vacation and go riding. I did try Amsoil in my Fatboy just in the trans. I did notice a difference. It ran smoother.
Thank you Sir, yes indeed you are correct, it is way past time we came Stateside for a visit... life just never seems to afford us the time... but it will!
I use Motul 7100 20/50 in my 883 sporty, and Revtech Sportster Primary oil in the primary case. In fact I remember watching one of your videos a few years back recommending a very good fitting T27 for the derby cover! Good advice. 👍
Sure thing buddy, Sportsters are wonderfully flexible, you can even use a good quality synthetic 20/50 in the transmission and it'll do fine! And yep, T27 unique to Harleys, they call it the imperial torx bit.
Thank you very much for the information, I am in texas and I didn't know about this plan, i don't go through a lot of oil but just by buying 2 times you save money already.
Just sharing the link buddy, as we cover so much in the UK, thought it was time to reach out and find a contact or two for our viewers in America, specially seeing as you are just over half our audience... thanks mate.
Be good yo see your feedback on the amsoil , my fatty and dyna both due ....
Hey Delboy, In the future, instead of pulling your derby cover to change your primary oil, you should pull the inspection cover so you can also check and/or adj your primary chain. This is as long as you're not adjusting your clutch. It's also easier to pour your oil in. Later
How do you check the level mate...? It is essential to remove the derby cover to observe that the oil doesn't come any higher than the bottom of the plates, by all means, you can fill it through the chain hole, but make sure you check it by looking through the derby hole, it's pretty critical that you don't overfill it...
i put the exact same oils in my '07 FXST last oil change. im happy with it. enough so, that when i change the oils on my '11 Road King in about a month, ill be going with the 3 separate Amsoil products. it currently has Mobil 20-50 synthetic V-Twin oil in all 3 holes. it has done fine with that, but i want both bikes set up the same. there is an Amsoil dealer here in town that will be giving me the discounts, since my son and i will both be buying on the same order. hope youre happy with that set up on yours!
Thanks Dave, I really value your feedback mate, it's the first time using this for us, and it's great to hear so many great endorsements from seasoned users... thanks again for the peace of mind buddy.
@@Moonfleet41 i know, HD recommends the same oil for all 3 holes. that just somehow seems wrong to me. and im a FIRM believer in Amsoil. it was in a Goldwing i bought a few years back. when i changed the oil, i went to a different brand synthetic. the bike shifted really hard, and you had to work to find neutral. after about 300 miles, i changed it back to Amsoil. problem solved. no bs. fact!
I’m part of your American following, love your work, I used your chain tension video to do my bike. I wish I had a Harley to try what you’re doing here, love my Scrambler though.
Thanks Matt, that's awesome news... as our Penny has a Scrambler, I've done an Amsoil change on that on the next video, using their metric 10-40 oil, thanks for your support, it's awesome to know we have so many cool viewers in the USA!
Houston TX my friend!!! I remember that beautiful bike. What a journey it was .
Thank you Sir, glad to hear from you, and thank you so much for your long term support..
Greetings from the U. S. ! Love your videos! Looking forward to the results from the oil change. Be safe!
Hi David, most welcome sir, thank you for your kind and loyal support.. have a great weekend.. Del.
I am an Amsoil dealer, just to pass on some info.
Amsoil is mostly sold through a network of individual dealers; anywhere that you see it in a retail shop, that shop buys via a dealer. (Even if the retailer orders directly from Amsoil, their account is tied to a specific dealer.)
Thanks for your input Rich.. Where are you based.?
@@jamesweber4938 The link i have provided in the description will ship free to you in Canada if you need some.!
@@Moonfleet41 I am in the Detroit area.
I need to change my oil once the weather breaks, great timing for this video! 👍
Glad it was good timing Harold, good luck with it, and roll on summer aye?!
Your a great guy and Mechanic.. you show your passion with this very well,. 👌
I’m about to do my first fluid change. I’ve been struggling with what to use. I’m going with this. Thank you
Good luck with it Mark, hope it goes well for you...
Great vid. Thanks for sharing, what is that spray your using for cleaning? Tia...
Thanks for the info to the USA! If the two of you ever do come to the USA come on up to Caribou Maine summer time only it's to cold and way to much snow to ride right now here.
Thank you Kenneth, that is even further North than our friends in Detroit..!
Hey Del. Regular viewer here, from the Commonwealth in Canada. Keep up the great videos.
Hi Adam, welcome Sir, good to hear from you... hope you're seeing the first signs of Spring now as we are starting to... riding season is round the corner!
James Weber We’re getting there. Del, sorry to hear you’re selling the Foxdawg. I’m looking forward to pulling my 2000 FXDWG out of storage.
@@FrAdamVoisin Yeah, sad to see it go Adam... but it's the only way to make funds for the next adventure..!
Delboy's Garage Looking forward to it!
I have a question on the tires life. Should one replace only if when tread wears out or should there be a timeline to replace them even if there is ample tread depth.
Tyres do dry out and can crack over time, so No, they don't last for ever.. it depends on what environment they have lived in, and they all have a date on them.. so check yours out and maybe make a judgement..!! if in doubt, then its never Wrong to replace them aye.!
Mouth out of sync with words at 2.30, thought I was having an acid flashback. I use Dino 20/50 for engine and primary, Bel-ray big twin in the gearbox. Just saying. Did use Amsoil all round , but expensive as buggery in Australia.
Britain has given America so much over the years, settlers, rock and punk... And now (we hope) an ambassador with Brit humor.. Get over there Dellboy!!
(Please come back too!)
Checking to see if i get tesponce since video so old my line coming from side casing to my pump had a pin hole dripping oil right at the pump nipple so to replace this it looks like i have to take gear box side covers to get to it ? N buy new gaskets or make a gasket lube ? Is this correct
I’m new to Harleys but I think there’s a lot of sense in Scotty Kilmer on here, when he says you should use the original oil the engine was designed to run on. The clearances are a certain size because they are designed to be filled with a certain oil, and changing that for a modern better oil may not always be the best thing to do. I’ll have a look in a mo and see if you’ve done a follow up vid yet. 👍
That is a common sentiment to stand with recommended oils for the engine's design, quite obviously. Don't forget that oils develop and advance and become better at what they do and who wouldn't upgrade to a better oil, if it's available, later down the line... there is a follow up to this, check in the Dyna Playlist, I tried Amsoil separate products, fully synthetic, and found them to be much better in many ways.
I ran the same oil in all holes on my stock bikes, no issues. For my hot builds they always had specific oil to get the .1 HP more 😝
I feel the clutch and transmission separate from the engine lube is more of a contamination thing keeping clutch disk grime out of the engine. How many bikes you know have hydraulic lifters and other areas where small metal dust could possibly damage? Been working on Harley and other brands since the late 70 s Thanks for the video!
Hi Del, last owner of the buell I just bought uses amsoil sae 20w-50 for both primary and engine. The oil bottle states engine, trans and primary . Should I change or stick to same oil. I do find getting neutral a bit tricky is that a possible overfilled primary as per another of your vids. Thanks again.
Yes possibly, if the primary has too much oil, it will stick the clutch plates together, making it difficult to engage and dis-engage gears... the Amsoil 20w-50 is rated for all three holes, so it's fine, but they also do a primary fluid, which I found a little better with smoother gear changes, but check the level first!
got my 2004 flstci yesterday my first Harley whats best 1oil 0r 3 interested on the gear change if it was smoother great vids been watching since bandit days
Fantastic video as always, Del :) How do you, or one us backyard mechanics (wannabe in my case) dispose of the old oil / fuel?
Hi Steve. we have a local waste recycling tip, they take it in small quantities and for free.!
Hello, love the Videos. I'm new to DIY especially on my HD Softail Fatboy FXSTFI. I took a nice ride and set it in the yard to head out again and had some rain. LONG story short. Got rain in the oil and after changing it all and getting the Nasty out I noticed the oil has a DIFFICULT time getting to the Filter. I even left it off and started the bike to see how BIG a problem I was looking at. BIG was the word. Oil barley creeped out. So no return through the engine back to Tank. Any thoughts or is it time to head back to the Shop....
Syn 3 all 3 holes done, down the road.
I use primary oil in primary. Trani oil in trani and 2050 in engine. Much better in shifting and all around performance
Glad to hear it buddy, am finding the transmission already smoother, the first engagement on a cold morning is a bit less aggressive, and changing between gears is a lot more slick!
Del where did you get the t handle torque wrench? That's awesome.
Hi Eric, here's a link my friend: www.spanner-monkey.co.uk/Wiha-Torque-T-Handle-ST-Plus-TorqueVario-Set-29234?search=torque%20vario&description=true
What are you using in the spray bottle with the yellow top at the start of the video?
It's WD40 "Bike Wash".. a soap product made by WD40 for cleaning bikes..!
I use the three oils (Motor, primairy and gear) on my bike (Nighttrain 2007)and got over 185000kms on it. For the motoroil i use 20w50 multigrade, and the is running just fine with it. I'm a amateur mechanic and work on all sorts of HD's, and they all running fine. I dont believe in "full syntetic oil", for sre not on a used bike. Am i wrong here? great vids , by the way. Grtz from Antwerp, Belgium.😉
Delroy.. that's a beauty.. do you still have that bike ?man I always love those Softailbob fenders!
My man you have to tell me what song that was phenomenal song I have to get it thank you so much for the video all your videos are effective and professional!!
Hey there, thank you for your kind words, sadly I sold that Harley a couple of years ago... but it was a fabulous bike and I put a lot of work in to it!... thank you for the kind words on the music, they're an American band called 'Feast of Friends', the first track was 'Utopia' and the second track was 'Man and God'... here's a link to their page: www.reverbnation.com/OFFRIENDS
I use amsoil love it my bike 08 fxstc 96ci with 103ci upgrade bike run cooler a little more but I feel it's worth it
Thanks for that feedback Randy, and it's good to know it runs cooler, as the weather has been so cold I've not noticed that a lot yet, I am picking up a bit more valve train noise, do you find the same?
Ooo looking forward to the ride out, not seen one form you for what seems like years
I’d like to see service maintenance videos on the newer softails. Thanks
If my numbers come up, then I'll be buying one, but for the moment, we service what we have!
Hi Del, great vid mate, oil it's the life blood of the bike it all makes sense.. As always have a great weekend and get out for a run on that Harley mate.. 👍🏍️
Thanks buddy, would love to, looks like we're all battening down for a storm this weekend, but we've got a Sportster service to do, so might just shut the doors, put the heating on and get on with it!! Soon be Spring aye?!
@@Moonfleet41 yeah sounds like a plan, brew on too, cheers Del. 👍😁
great job! thanks for the background music, they are cool too
Del i noticed you used an rubber o ring on the sump plug!!!!! Didnt know you could do that,,thought it had to be a washer?
It depends on the factory application Mark, these come with an o-ring in place, but if it comes with a washer in place, then use a washer.
Hiya, Did you pay import duty and VAT on this shipment?
Hard work finally paying of for Del an Penny, grats guys and gals! Quick Q though, I've changed the clutch plates on my 250R about 2 weeks ago, ran out of time with the new gasket and oil plug washer, should i soak my clutch plates again, or are they still fine? I've loosely fitted the clutch cover on.
If you soaked the new clutch plates over night, then they'll be fine, should have absorbed all they need to, they shouldn't dry out in a fortnight.!
@@Moonfleet41 was thinking of pre-dipping them in the morning while I struggle to clean up the gasket in the morning lol
Great vid Del, if I had £7000 I would have bitten your hand off when I saw your Facebook post. Never been a Harley fan boy but having watched that transform definitely got my attention... 👍
Thanks Gareth, thats very kind of you mate, its hard to let it go, but its all done now, and time for the next adventure..!
Looking forward to it...
Hi, please correct me if I am wrong but as per my understanding, on the Sportster I think there is a common sump for all 3 ? I am thinking of shifting from the Syn3 to Amsoil Sae60 or the Amsoil 15W60 , so that it can help with the high temps. The temps dont go down much low where I live, the lowest ever is 10 degree celcius so I don't think I need to worry about cold temperatures much. My riding involves a lot of stop and go traffic so was thinking to putting a higher weight oil to help. Please suggest if any of those would be good ?
Yep good one Del, must admit I didn’t know my Harley had 3 different oils...oops. It only has 300 miles on it after a year. Guess I should find out where the dip stick is. Please don’t laugh to loud as I completely love my bike.....love even looking at it.
Great vid mate, I’m off to the bike shed tomorrow and I promise I’ll check the oils.
Kind regards.
Beans.
ha ha.. it sounds like you need to drag it out and ride it a bit more Beans me old duck... you'll find out a lot about it by playing with it more often..!!!!!
@@Moonfleet41 👍
I am a Preferred Customer of Amsoil products....periodically. I pay the membership, stock up a big inventory, let the membership expire in 6 months. A year or two later, I repeat. While I'm a customer, the lower price of the products and free shipping offset the membership fee and I'm still money ahead.
I've used Amsoil products in cars, metric bikes and my Sportster for decades and I've never had a problem with any of them. I highly recommend Amsoil. No, I don't get paid anything for saying this. I genuinely love the stuff.
My favorite motorcycle oil filters are NAPA Gold 21-micron filters which are made by WIX. The Evo engines need the higher micron rating for better flow. The newer TC and M8 engines are OK with the 5-micron filters, same as the metric bikes.
I've been running Castrol for years on multiple sport bikes, Harleys , cars and trucks. Any thoughts on Castrol
Castrol is the preferred recommended lubricants fot Triumph now, and very much a premium product to trust!
Hi Del just rewatching the Amsoil vid, did you get the oil from the USA, or locally, cos I followed the link & couldn't get a UK order, just the Northern USA & Canada came up, thanks in advance 👍
Yes mate, the link is to an American supplier because it was in answer to many of our American viewers who are more than half our audience these days, who pointed out that every link I post is to UK companies... so just this once, I put a US link for the guys over there.. but if you do an open search, there are UK suppliers of Amsoil who offer the same service.
@@Moonfleet41 thanks Del, I ended up getting it all from.Demon Tweeks, I have read such good reports about Amsoil, & what with you using it as well, it was a no brainer, all the best to you both 👍 x
What mirrors are in this please?
I just saw this video and went looking for the follow up on what you thought about the difference in Trans and Primary oils. Was it embedded in another video? Thanks.
HI Dave, I did plan to do a feedback on that, wanted to ride a few hundred miles first to let everything settle in and then the current situation has meant I've not been out on the bike for weeks... am saving it for the time when we're all back together out on the roads!
@@Moonfleet41 Thanks; I wasn't sure if you had time to squeeze it in before the quarantine. Just acquired a 16 Slim S in November. Looking to do some maintenance before riding season is in full swing. Stay safe and healthy!
I live in Missouri, usa. I use email in my bike! I love it! Its definitely much better than standard HD oil
you produce some real good quality content. Your video's transcend geography. it is a small world anymore. you have don't a lot for the motorcycle community. So glad you have America in your viewing audience. cool. you do need to ride here one day. you will be amazed on the options.
Thank you Robert, it is an honor to have such a loyal and enthusiastic following from the USA, we even hear regularly from viewers on Alaska, one guy in Kodiak even... and of course not forgetting many also from Central and South America where guys have to do a lot more to take care of their own bikes than we do in the richer countries of the world. We will get over for a visit some day, once we can get on top of life and make some time for us, its the first port of call.. Have a great weekend sir and thank you for your constant support... D&Px
I'm checking out the link now. The only Harley kits I see comes with just the one type of oil. Which kit did you order with different primary and transmission oil?
Didn't order a kit, I ordered what I wanted, which was the three individual oils, you're free to order whatever you like, just contact them.
You ever get a chance to get over here to the US we Definitely have to go out on a ride got some beautiful country over here in Oregon. Oh I had to ask what's the difference between a pound and a Quinn Hope I'm pronouncing that right lol😁
Ha ha, The word it "Quid", its just a nick name for Pound.. it's believed to come from Latin "Quid Pro Quo", meaning fair exchange "something for something".. a quaint remnant from history that stuck..maybe like the word "Bucks".. from when Deer skins were currency..! And id love to ride in Oregon, what a beautiful state..! thank you for your support.. Del.
@@Moonfleet41 Awsome thanks for the info No worries on the support definitely looking forward for more videos ride safe my friend👍
Great video. Looking forward to more. Heritage Softail Classic 114, Georgia, USA
Come on over to Arizona - you can have a go on both my Road King and my Triumph Scrambler. A little US and British flavor...
Thank you kindly Sir, what a beautiful place you live, we could do with some sunshine right now!
Is it possible to use amsoil v twin 15w60 instead of 20w50 in Harley
The different numbers just mean that the oil you ask about has a higher and lower heat rating so can withstand greater extremes in both directions, so yes, it'd be fine.
@@Moonfleet41 thank you... 👍
Hay Del, what T-Handle torque wrench are you using to tighten the clutch cover ?
Here you Louis, here's a link for your Sir! www.spanner-monkey.co.uk/Wiha-Torque-T-Handle-ST-Plus-TorqueVario-Set-29234?search=torque%20vario&description=true
I recently found your channel and just subscribed to it. I purchased all the items needed to do the 3-hole change. However, when I reread the manual (2021 FLTRXSE - CVO RG) it indicates that I need to change the engine oil at 5k, the primary at 10k, and the transmission at 20k. Based on your 3 hole change video, you do change all 3 every 5k or do you follow the manual? If you do change all 3 at 5k, can you share your reasons for doing so? Thank you very much…. From Northern Virginia.
Thanks for the sub and welcome aboard, Those service intervals are correct in both cases, Your bike is a 1 year old Touring model, and in this video the bike was a 20 year old Dyna, things have changed a lot in 20 years, much longer service intervals and many other conveniences too, such as self adjusting primary chain and clutch, servicing is a lot easier than it was two decades ago. Of course, if you have just invested in a new '21 RG, then why not treat it to all new fluids.. the manual says when you 'must' change them, doesn't say you can't do it early.! Nice bike BTW.!
@@Moonfleet41 thank you so much for the response and for sharing your rationale, especially the comment about the manual (when you must change oils by). That makes a lot of sense and helps put things in proper perspective. I fell in love with the bike and had to have it….thank you. Ride and be safe.