Opera Singer React: Voice of No Return (NieR: Automata OST)

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ย. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 136

  • @mrk45
    @mrk45 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    While playing Nier Auomata, I was attacked by a robot leading a horde of animals. I really began to enjoy the combat as I fought back against the creatures attacking me and was about to deliver a killing blow when the robot cried out "please stop hurting my animals!" I was so taken aback, I agreed to stop, the robot thanked me and then Voice of No Return started playing. I've never felt like an asshole in a video game so much as I did at that point.

    • @artOVtrolling
      @artOVtrolling 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Dude. Same. If ever there was a point where 9S no longer had a single excuse left to be a dick to machine life forms, it was then. The whole “they lack emotions” argument died on the spot.

    • @yamikuroXXII
      @yamikuroXXII 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ....that was so sad.. I cry

  • @kayskreed
    @kayskreed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    French speaker here. This piece in particular definitely sounds French, even though most of it is undecipherable due to it being chaos language. "Fleur" is the the first word that stood out to me. Flowers have a lot of symbolism throughout the Nier series.

    • @KnIf0rTITAN
      @KnIf0rTITAN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Well if i remember Chaos is a mix of English, Japanese, French and Latin.

    • @kurokamikage_official
      @kurokamikage_official ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KnIf0rTITAN there was some Finnish as well iirc

    • @helium_7777
      @helium_7777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought I was hearing something like "mère contre fille" like mother agaisnt daughter but not as a battle more like cuddling

    • @helium_7777
      @helium_7777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KnIf0rTITAN that's the real chaos language but they made different chaos languages

  • @kono152
    @kono152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    as someone who's a French Canadian, this song hits especially hard because I can sometimes understand random words, like "flower", more, and a word that sounds like chagrin at the end (i mean that the ending of the word sounds like "grin", it's not at the end of the song). The same thing seems to appear in A Beautiful song, as there's a part that sounds like the Italian phrase "It hurts here in my heart"

    • @FeroxAmarokk
      @FeroxAmarokk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      yep i second that ... also french canadian and one thing to note also the "french" or i should say the pronunciation is closer to french from quebec or more specifically the "international french" that we kinda find a lot in montreal and quebec city. i wouldnt say its french canadian but more like how academically how french would sound like in a perfect setting (the french from quebec is closer to the original and the academical french, long story of french through history. but also french from france isnt less academical its just the accent and the sounds used are a derivative from the original french). weirdly tho its extremlly hard for me to understand the words. it sounds french but sounds sometimes dont make words in the songs. sometime it does but its hard to understand the exact meaning and at the end the meaning of the song is more internal and subjective than it is objective.
      for the ingame explanation the language in the game is a mix of multiple language which french is a big part of. it is a gorgeous game through and through.
      edit: ahhh you know about the chaos language lol i wasnt there in the video yet haha.

    • @Mistupishi
      @Mistupishi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      So I'm not the only one hearing that phrase in the refrain of "A beautiful song"! I am, in fact, italian and I hear something like "Fa male qui nel cuore" 💔 which matches perfectly with Simone's mood.

    • @kono152
      @kono152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Mistupishi yeah it was another music channel that pointed that out, i like to think its intentional but its probably not

    • @leoschochtougas1267
      @leoschochtougas1267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      also French Canadian now in Vancouver. Definitely thought this song had French words sprinkled in everytime i heard it! Fantastic and emotional.

    • @fg009letyrds8
      @fg009letyrds8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FeroxAmarokk Chaos language is literally a mix of different languages so...

  • @Foxelus
    @Foxelus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    As a French speaker, I find the lyrics interesting in the way that the words seem very familiar as common words, but at the same time I don't understand any of them.

  • @fireaza
    @fireaza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    You gotta react to "Lilium" the opening theme to _Elfin Lied_ ! I mean, you're an opera singer, this song is a gorgeous and fully-original (though the lyrics come from Bible passages in Latin) opera number! It's perfect!

  • @lordmark4966
    @lordmark4966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Honestly one of my favorites from the game since its basically just her voice and the music is so low and supportive.

  • @divishka
    @divishka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This song gives me vibes of a home... abandoned home... empty abandoned home in the memories... This is so sad and clearly bright. Beautiful.

  • @hollowknight6438
    @hollowknight6438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Actually if im not mistaken its been a while since i've played automata but i think this song plays during a side quest that involves reading a battle report thats in a computer located behind the leader of the resistance group which tells you of a mission that Whent terribly wrong and A2 couldn't save her friends... I think... anyway needless to say a beautifuly heart wrenching song !!! 😭

    • @tristanmlowe
      @tristanmlowe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      i know a different song plays then, but this song plays in the forest after you meet the robot that takes care of the animals

    • @viktorijasun3082
      @viktorijasun3082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This song also plays when you help one of the resistance members find locations where she was with her loved one.

    • @hylianchampion7713
      @hylianchampion7713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also plays when you report back to a resistance member that one of their friend died in a revenge battle against a machine

    • @HSvideoSims3
      @HSvideoSims3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It also plays during a mission of two runaway ‘lovers’ after you erase the memory of the male android, but the female android tells you not to erase hers so she can continue manipulate the male android. Turns out she’s been doing this for YEARS, and each time, the male android will always fall in love with her.

  • @Luna-zh1wy
    @Luna-zh1wy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    😌This song always calms my nerves when I’m feeling a lot of anxiety.

  • @zeromailss
    @zeromailss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The first time I heard this song in the game it made me stop and I can't help but tear up, even now I still can feel that sensation everytime I hear this song

  • @NATESOR
    @NATESOR 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's a bit of a meme, but it's striking how every single note of NieR's music just rips your heart out.

  • @feuryie
    @feuryie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    haven't heard this song in awhile, but it almost makes me think this is the point where 9s has lost 2b and is thinking about her death and how he's breaking because of her loss.

  • @5h3nn0ng
    @5h3nn0ng 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Insterestingly, there ARE lyrics in Japanese for this song in the YorHa stageplay, and it's sung by A2 during her days as No. 2

  • @FBryice31
    @FBryice31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember when I heard this song in game right after I broke up. For me this song really represents a love lost.
    Btw I'm mad at you because as a French I really like your accent when you're speaking french !

  • @valendrya3260
    @valendrya3260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The first time I heard this Track was wonderful so calming and stuff it's like Vague hope in my opinion which is another brilliant track that was Played during the ending

  • @Blackzetan11
    @Blackzetan11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The lyric is writed to mean nothing but at certain moment I think that she said in french: "flower" "white" "open your hand if..." "the year of nier" "frontiere" "take the serrure(idk the english word)" "if the flower" "plus than (idk)"
    We can hear the french accent so much.
    And your french is good😁

  • @Insert_Bland_Name_Here
    @Insert_Bland_Name_Here 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As always with these NieR videos, I love hearing your thoughts on what the lyrics could mean.
    And just like with "Vague Hope", there is this one line in this song that my ears consistently pick up as being Danish, even though I know the song is based heavily on French. It's a bit weird, but hearing that line in Danish (the line starting with "Konte eir peur lei" or however it's spelled, right after the first chorus), just kinda makes this song feel more like the singer is trying to comfort someone or ease their emotional pain or distress... It's one of my favorite songs from NieR Automata for a reason, that reason being specifically because there is this one line that sounds like a language I'm fluent in, and that one line affects my entire understanding of what kind of song it is...

  • @2000Aex
    @2000Aex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    At the beginning of the video you were asking about why each of the songs had different cultural and linguistic links right? There's an actual reason for this, Emi Evans (the singer) made up her own vocals based off of pronounciations in German, Scottish Gaelic (and some ye olde English) and French (I don't remember if there's any others). Because of this; Yoko Taro (the Head Director/Writer) and Keiichi Okabe (the Lead Composer/Arranger/Music Director) worked with her to give it more detail. The words she's actually singing is part of what's called "Chaos" language and it's meant to be a hodge-podge of lots of different languages that evolved together over thousands of years, just like what we see in Automata as the game is set in the year 11,945 AD. Because some of the songs have multiple covers in either English, Japanese or this "Chaos" language, some of it can be translated together. I think a lot of people keep forgetting that the original NieR (2010) and Drakengard franchise have nearly always received praise of their music and soundtrack productions.

  • @t.k.5088
    @t.k.5088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeahhh nice I got knowledge and a good song to listen before snoozing!

    • @t.k.5088
      @t.k.5088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also isn't this supposed to be chaos language too? Like thousands of years in the future language instead of contemporary language?

    • @MarcoMeatball
      @MarcoMeatball  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is chaos language it just sounds French 🤣

    • @t.k.5088
      @t.k.5088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MarcoMeatball yes at the end of the video you confirmed it... I was the one mistakenly going Speedy Gonzalez in the comments before i finished watching 💀💀

  • @BelkaWeiss
    @BelkaWeiss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Def one of my favorites in the game. They always play it at such intense times. If I remember right one of them was killing a robot at the bottom of the crevice in the City Ruins. Dude had like 50 swords sticking out of him and he just wanted to die or something wild like that. Either way I sat there for like 5 minutes listening to it.

    • @vetreas366
      @vetreas366 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vague recollections of that encounter:
      "Hey machine bro, I see you're in pain and I feel you, man, you know? I feel your pain right in my heart! I wanna help out, I really do but... this song be jammin'! Makes all the suffering worth it!"
      **Pained synthesized machine noises**
      "Aaah I knew you got me bro! So yeah just sit tight for like 5-10 minutes, max 2 hours, and I'll help out no probs. Just gotta chill for a bit, life's been dragging me down like crazy lately. You do NOT want to know what I had to go through when I went to the amusement park to wind down for a bit. Crazy opera singers be cray-cray robobro!"
      "Ex... Eeeee... Eeexxxter--"
      "I DID exterminate her, yeah, but had to do a lot of shooting and jumping and blehh the skinned bodies of friendly troops we kinda messed up. Ah but it's time to shut up now, robodude, you're ruining my downtime and talking over the song."
      "Kkk... kill--"
      "Yeah, yeah I'll get to you in a bit"
      "--youuu"
      "Love you too, robobro!

  • @veed.unknown1628
    @veed.unknown1628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank u sooo much, I've been waiting for this moment

  • @MyvexicalRomance
    @MyvexicalRomance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It sounds like french because it is french... in a way. The composers gave emi evans preliminary version of songs and the style they wished the language to be in, such as Scottish Gaelic or French, and she invented the words and all that

    • @Trizzle2Jernts
      @Trizzle2Jernts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ahhh, the language of Chaos. Such sweet sounds.

  • @noenzyl7244
    @noenzyl7244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should try the other versions of this same song. It brings such a contrasting feel to them while still keeping that deathly calm feeling.

  • @Yilue
    @Yilue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh man this song is beatiful. Will say I've listened to it too much lol. It used to play on this Nier wallapaper I had for my desktop and I would always just sit there and listen to it. Also I thought this song was sung chaos language? Either way its amazing. Also just saw you beat the 2 gargoyles on stream just before I left for my walk :D One of the hardest bosses imo fricking well done you did it faster than me lmao

  • @spiritskyes
    @spiritskyes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so at the end you're telling us to...hear...feel...think? ;)

  • @itsdokko2990
    @itsdokko2990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yes, this song...
    brings the big sad to my life

  • @mtl2010ps
    @mtl2010ps 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im French and I think you speak greatly :) really a beautiful song 😢

  • @baumaus9014
    @baumaus9014 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play this song whenever I can't sleep. It's so tender in its happiness and nostalgia, yet painful; mostly soothing, yet not free of the heaviness of the characters and their story. Kinda feels relatable, to ne honest.

  • @seanboyle7391
    @seanboyle7391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NieR Automata will always be one of my personal favorites when it comes to music.
    Dependent weakling, War and War, Crumbling Lies (front), Mourning and the Sound of the End are top favs! Rank A+. Maybe even S

  • @TheWarrenk52
    @TheWarrenk52 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey I just binged your videos (nier ones) and subscribed your emotion really sold me

  • @LordMembrane
    @LordMembrane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Whence came it, that ethereal music, from what hidden grot or secret cell? From what dark cave? From what window into paradise? We watched the tiny figure under the spotlight and the music poured over us, sometimes soothing, sometimes blessing, sometimes accusing. Every one of us confronting ghosts, demons and old memories. The recital by Tears of the Mushroom, a young lady of the goblin persuasion, took but half an hour or, perhaps, it took a lifetime, and then it was over, to a silence which spread and grew and expanded until at last it exploded. Every single patron standing and clapping their hands raw, tears running down our faces. We had been taken somewhere and brought back and we were different people, longing for another journey into paradise, no matter what hell we had to atone for on the way.
    From "Snuff" by Terry Pratchett.

  • @Stachelbeeerchen
    @Stachelbeeerchen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Not my favorite but I can't say its bad because Nier Aitomata is a masterpiece music vise.

  • @Monkeygreen-u7u
    @Monkeygreen-u7u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A month or a month and a half ago, I finished this game, and what I enjoyed the most was the whole soundtrack. I am not a professional in music but I am the son of someone who knows how to play the piano and is a tenor, I grew up with music by my side so I have learned to appreciate a song where it comes from and video games give us that sample of good music that can even move us.
    That happens to me with nier automata and this is one of the songs I appreciate. It's great to hear a professional opinion on these things and good video
    P.S: I would have liked to hear something that reminds me of the Spanish language that is the one I speak, in the game but it doesn't matter, it's still a wonderful soundtrack.

  • @MII19
    @MII19 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man thanks for reacting to this and telling us your take on this beautiful song

  • @wogfro
    @wogfro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another song I don't know the language of and has that same effect is "The best is yet to come" from Metal Gear Solid

  • @Sylumgar
    @Sylumgar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I'm a french subscriber and I have some things to say:
    1. I am not mad at you at all, Most people wouldn't even try to speak our language.
    2. I agree with you, I think french is really beautiful when it is sad.
    3. It seems in this song like french sounds but put at random most of the time, which is very unsettling for us ( for me at least ),
    But sometime, there is real word or even sentences, I think I have heard " there is your name " at a moment, and these moment help me to get the global theme of the song so I could fill the blanks.
    All this talk just to say, I love this song and your analysis, I'll be there for the next.

    • @mads_in_zero
      @mads_in_zero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You're right about number three. Emi Evans, the lead vocalist and lyricist for the series, has said that she basically listens to language learning tapes of a language she's trying to emulate, then creates lyrics that borrow the sound of the language, without any structure (this series is set in the absurdly distant far future, the idea is that language has morphed and changed over all that time). There's a song from the first game, Gestalt/Replicant that's done in fake English, and the effect is quite unsettling, agreed!

    • @InktheImpassive
      @InktheImpassive ปีที่แล้ว +1

      French just works really well on these kind of tone of music, well, along with Ratatouille and The Little Prince.

  • @nightmare_1337
    @nightmare_1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like I've finnaly caught up to the more recent videos.

  • @ArcTifocx
    @ArcTifocx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Tbf, Emi Evans did use French alongside English as the basis for the Chaos Language. Written out, the language resembles Hebrew the most. Also in case you need reference, Hymnos from Ar Tonelico is based on English, French, and Japanese. I understand why the Nouveau version of Weight of the World is supposedly French but obviously isn’t.
    Need something to listen to? Try Pain - Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille Zur Macht. (This is in English.)

    • @mitrikgaduk347
      @mitrikgaduk347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a theory about the French version specifically. So, if you look into the development history of NieR, during the time when they were making considerations for Father and Brother NieR, the critics and marketing in the west (or whom ever they checked with) had the opinion that they wanted the Father NieR due to finding it outlandish that a "child" is running around with a "giant sword", I guess they never played FF7 (this was one of those situations at the time where games that sold well had gruff male protagonists on the cover, so Brother NieR in their eyes didn't meet the quota). So when they asked France if they wanted Father or Brother NieR (not entirely sure how they got this info, possibly marketing, agencies, etc.), they wanted the original version, the authentic experience, which was Brother NieR. They didn't get the Replicant version, instead, like everyone else other than Japan, they got Father NieR.
      I'm under the sneaking suspicion that Yoko Taro remembered this. Note that the only reference to France is the Nouveau version, it specifically states "FR" in the track's title. The three versions of the song are English, Japanese, and Chaos (technically), while the Chaos version is referenced as French because it was more based on French than any other language. So why is French the ONLY other version? Why specifically base a version of the song on French rather than another language? Why not have multiple? It just seems odd because this is incredibly rare. There aren't any specific French references in the game either other than possibly the name of a certain Machine (haven't checked if any of them are references, one of them might be, but it's a stretch to say that's the reason).
      I do believe there is a specific reason for it, whether it be this or something else, it's just so specific, and when you look into the history of Automata's predecessor, it stands to reason that this could be the justification, essentially an homage or reference.
      (Citation: nier.fandom.com/wiki/NieR#Development)

    • @JaseAmoxin
      @JaseAmoxin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't think I would ever see anyone mention Pain from Xenosaga. I just listened to it yesterday for the first time in like 2 years.

    • @vitriolicAmaranth
      @vitriolicAmaranth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She incorporates many languages, not just those. French, English, German, Italian and Japanese are the most common but there also seem to be elements of Gaelic, Russian, Mandarin and Hebrew and/or Arabic, and Weight of the World very explicitly has Chamicuro words, as she pointed out on her Twitter. Don't know Chamicuro or recognise its phonaesthetics? That's related to the exact reason she incorporated it- When she did, it had less than 100 speakers left worldwide and no native speakers left. Pretty sure it has even fewer now.
      To go on a bit of a tangent, it's inherently hard to track most critically endangered languages, but another one is Manchurian, which has been systematically marginalized and stamped out alongside Manchurian culture by the modern Chinese government because of cultural perceptions that Manchurians assisted the Japanese during WW2. Its sound is nice, but its script is one of the most gorgeous in the world imo, like old pre-Cyrillic Mongolian script but even fancier.

    • @vitriolicAmaranth
      @vitriolicAmaranth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mitrikgaduk347 Brother Nier isn't "the original version," they were released in parallel on different consoles most likely following market research on which demographics had each console in Japan (XBox is less popular in Japan in general, but I believe it's also mostly older gamers and fans of western-style games who do have it there). Only one was chosen for the western release because market research is cheaper than voice localisation for an additional main character. Also the way they get info like that is something called a focus group. I've worked as a transcriber before and probably a good like 10% of what I transcribed was focus group meetings for everything from AC repair services to bread packaging to videogame advertising.
      People for focus groups used to be mostly recruited via cold calls over the phone, so anyone who is on lists for telemarketers could also end up in focus groups (and that's pretty much every adult, because even organizations that should be completely above-board and receive funding from (like universities)/are a part of the government happily sell your information), but since unknown numbers are so heavily associated with telemarketers and scammers now and everyone has caller ID, that is rarely if ever done anymore; Instead, the most common recruitment methods are social media posts, classified ads (especially for smaller/local businesses) and third-party panels (which basically means people who sign on with a company specifically to become part of focus groups, so you just go to the company and they find people for you). Participants are often (but as far as I can tell not always) compensated for their time whether that is with cash, vouchers/coupons/discounts or simply a free lunch. Sometimes groups are conducted over software like Skype or Zoom instead of in-person.
      Because of the nature of how the recruitment process works, the samples for focus groups tend to be heavily biased. They may appear to be from diverse backgrounds, but after you've listened to a lot of them, even for completely different products and from completely different regions, you start to see commonalities. Certain types of people are more likely to be in focus groups and other types are unlikely to ever be in them. It's rare for there to be someone under 25. It's rare for there to be someone who is middle class or higher. It is rarer for there to be male participants than female participants, except specifically in videogame focus groups, where there are almost never female participants (though most participants, at least in groups or interviews where ages were stated, I observed to be 25-30 still, and they often worked or wanted to work in the entertainment industry, most often as aspiring musicians; black gamers, console gamers and specifically xbox gamers were also overrepresented in american videogame focus groups for some reason, couldn't tell you why).
      "Hipsters," "Karens" and "bougie white people" represent most of most focus groups, and the remainder is usually comprised of people who sound like they're in very desperate situations (single moms with several kids, people who are kind of alarmingly open about addictions to hard drugs or being on parole, etc), basically people who are probably there because it's a quick buck that requires zero skill or job experience to make and doesn't require them to do anything illegal or particularly dehumanizing (unless you count being in a room with a bunch of middle aged white women who think high-class means getting the bread with raisins in it). If you feel like marketing misses you to a baffling degree, this is the reason- Have you EVER been invited to a focus group? (rhetorical question, you said you don't know how they do market research.) I know I haven't, yet it's the most common form of market research. People like you and me are simply not represented in focus groups, so people like you and me are invisible to marketers, despite people like you and me probably representing a bigger slice of the potential consumer base or target demographic of many products than the people who are in focus groups for those products.
      A final note, back on the topic of NieR, Yoko Taro has basically nothing to do with the music besides inspiring it. He's been very vocally (albeit probably hamming it up) upset when people praise the soundtrack more than the writing, because he had nothing to do with the music yet his writing gets overlooked in favour of the soundtrack. The chaos language lyrics meanwhile are not even under Okabe's direct control, and we know Emi Evans is given creative control in that regard. For whatever reason someone (possibly Okabe?) named it Nouveau/FR, but Emi Evans calls it the "Emi version," the lyrics are not in French and it contains words that are not even related to French but are lifted 1:1 from Chamicuro.

    • @mitrikgaduk347
      @mitrikgaduk347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vitriolicAmaranth First off, the original version of NieR was Brother NieR, this was stated in regards to the development of the game. What I am referencing was in the citation stated. It's more than likely this information comes from an old interview, most likely in Japan, that is likely lost to time at this point as some older articles regarding the original NieR are difficult to find. However it is to be stated that Brother NieR is also the canonical NieR in the timeline. This can be stated because the side content like books, novellas, etc, are usually written from the perspective of Brother NieR.
      (Here's the full quotation from the page, point being, Father NieR wasn't the original choice)
      "About three years before the game's release, when the project began to take shape, Saito took pains to include the North American and UK localizers and marketing department members in the development process. His goals were to guarantee a profit with appeal to Western audiences since Drakengard had poor sales in the West. He, Taro, and key members of the design team had a meeting with the Western staff in Los Angeles. Western staff members expressed immediate concerns with making NieR multiplatform for the changing next generation market, and told the Japanese staff that they didn't want the same experience on both consoles. Therefore, Taro had the idea to make the experience unique for each platform. This began the earliest start of the father and daughter concept.
      During the same meeting, the Western staff criticized that it was "too comical" to have a skinny boy swinging around a giant sword in a serious narrative. They wanted a "realistic hero" to better appeal to adult players in the West. Saito argued that realism shouldn't apply to a fantasy narrative, and both sides argued for an entire day over the matter. Eventually, Saito relented to the Western staff's concerns. Taro, who wasn't specialized in thinking about Western audience's preferences, complained to Saito and began to lose motivation, saying, "if you change the protagonist that much, we don't want to make it." It's because of this that Japan kept their planned brother and sister story.
      Even though both father and brother Nier were made at the same time, Saito and Taro underestimated the workload that came with the decision. A new design had to be made for father Nier and character dialogue, which was being written in a frenzy even as the meeting took place, had to be rewritten to include the father's perspective. Camera angles during pre-rendered cutscenes also had to be altered. Developers were becoming exhausted by the end, but Saito was optimistic, saying that they'll "make the two versions somehow" while dodging his superiors' inquiries over the cost.
      Before release, Saito was made aware of a key discrepancy in the Western team's claims. In England and Germany, the general consensus was in favor for father Nier, but France was looking forward to experiencing Replicant and complained about how they were robbed of the original Japanese experience. According to him, many French players ended up importing it rather than buying Gestalt. Taro was amused by American critics' comments about father Nier's passiveness, though he took issue on the game's graphics being the main selling point for them."
      (Continuing my statement.)
      I would like to state that at the time when I wrote my original comment I was incredibly hazy and couldn't remember the term focus groups. Yes, I know what they are.
      Also, if you have any citations to the contrary to the above quotation, which I'd imagine would exist via official sources like interviews and such, I'd also like to see them, I'd be surprised if this is the case, as I haven't seen many.
      I am aware of the fact that Chamicuro is in the song, but not every word is. Although it's entirely possible that due to Emi's pronunciation and her style of singing may have lead to a lot of people believing the songs of NieR are written in German or French, when I first heard a song from NieR many years ago I thought it was either of those. I've seen numerous reactions where some initially think this too. It might have to do with her pronunciation in her falsetto (head voice, the airy point), some of the tail end to her notes tend to sound European as well. I utterly adore Emi's voice mind you and I come from a musical background. Also, romance languages have many similarities, and I've read that she states that she's used numerous of them (she doesn't mention them by the name "romance languages", but she mentions numerous that appear under this category.
      Romance languages have Latin as a common ancestor, they are based on it, so many words come from root Latin words (like Chinese, Japanese, and Korean, this is an example with Chinese being the root). If I'd take a wild guess, it's possible that the reason someone might think it sounds French or some other European languages is due to this. If you aren't familiar with Arawaken Languages, although the pronunciation is different than Latin, the structure seems similar (I've seen a lot Latin but a few Arawaken examples, particularly Wayuu, which is similar to Chamicuro. Like, if you've heard both languages a bit (Latin and Chamicuro), and shuffled them, it'd be difficult to tell one from the other unless you have a serious understanding of both (Latin takes YEARS to learn, spoken Latin is rarely taught, and rarely used, mostly by people who are interested in the subject matter. Actually, even in the Vatican, it's rarely spoken, as they have shifted to Italian, Spanish, and English.).
      Mind you, I am not writing this comment in any form of malice, I genuinely want to know. Part of the reason why I love NieR's/Automata's soundtrack so much is due to how interesting the Chaos language sounds. I think everyone hears a bit of a language they know about in it and it's a beautiful thing and if you don't have context to the games there are so many ways to interpret the music on it's own, even with the context there still is.

  • @xLeenix
    @xLeenix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    oh yes that one is beautiful^^

  • @Rena_45
    @Rena_45 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    CMIIW
    First time hearing this track
    After clearing last quest of "the wandering couple"

  • @popisoixantequatorze
    @popisoixantequatorze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am french, and the first word I can recognize from the beginning of the song is « sans-abri », which means homeless.
    I am not sure how to interpret this in the context but I think it is interesting

  • @kiryu_teh_clown6760
    @kiryu_teh_clown6760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God I love nier automata

  • @yerfdogson9785
    @yerfdogson9785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have still never played neir but every song I hear makes me feel as though I have to. Also Marco you should listen to battle of providence from bravely second. It's incredibly underrated because not a lot of people have played the game but the music is so good

  • @Moyo_miyo
    @Moyo_miyo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If this catches your eye and interests- I would be curious to how you react to OPUS: Echoes of Starsong. It's a simple sci-fi and very story-driven game with a hauntingly beautiful soundtrack. My personal favorite being the very last: "The Flowers There... Are Always In Full Bloom" with the 2nd main character, Eda, singing the vocals.
    I'm always enjoying the reactions and how you perceive soundtracks from many games; I'm looking forward to more content from you in the future!

  • @unik9018
    @unik9018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    finally someone who can appreciate this beautiful ost

  • @cclsuda3022
    @cclsuda3022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your contents! Also recommending Dependent Weakling from the series. Some of the best final boss sountrack.

  • @saeedalmie6840
    @saeedalmie6840 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    good cover as always

  • @Rixstarian
    @Rixstarian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If there's a slow song from Automata that I'd love for you to follow up from this one, it'd definitely be Faltering Prayer (Dawn Breeze). I feel you'd have a lot to say about how powerful it is for being rather stripped bare on instrumentation to spotlight what is left behind. It also succeeds the song from Replicant's OST, Dispossession.

  • @wilifox46marin
    @wilifox46marin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    beautiful!!!

  • @zizouille7651
    @zizouille7651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a french, dont worry i wont get angry, you were on point! French is kind of a calm river compared to italian

  • @M0narch1024
    @M0narch1024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man this is one of my favourites.
    Also
    Day two of recommending Stay Gold from the Arknights OST

  • @edwardbello645
    @edwardbello645 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Marco. This piece plays whenever a side quest of the game is revealed to end in tragedy. It's unfortunately more often than you would wish.

  • @Angel333xx
    @Angel333xx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best OST

  • @Intelligent_Individual
    @Intelligent_Individual 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dismiss from kingdom hearts is a masterpiece

  • @masteroftheweapons
    @masteroftheweapons 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All right, time to play automata again

  • @AlmostJordan
    @AlmostJordan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should listen to Laurence the first vicar from bloodborne the choir is at its best during that track. And that says something for bloodborne

  • @marble-soda-pop-pop
    @marble-soda-pop-pop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello! I discovered your channel recently through the Genshin and Fire Emblem videos, and I thought reacting with the Mikoto battle theme from Genshin would be very cool. I enjoy watching your reactions and commentary, and I think that song would be interesting. Thanks!

  • @ryanmartin4815
    @ryanmartin4815 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should defiantly listen listen to Theme of Kage & RASETSU, it has some truly scary vocals.

  • @MatterfiedV2
    @MatterfiedV2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of the most beautiful soundtracks in all of the Nier franchise in my opinion. I actually stayed in the play area I was in when it started playing in my run-through for the first time because I was scared that if I left it would stop. Glad you heard this version of it at least.
    The version in the game itself with the backup vocals and the other instruments is quite a bit better, however.
    th-cam.com/video/NgdoeR641io/w-d-xo.html
    There's the link to it. Give it a quick listen sometime. It's a whole different experience.

  • @Lucy-bd6us
    @Lucy-bd6us 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an odd request but id love to see you listen to Dreams from My Brother Rabbit. it features Emi Evans

  • @Bootstothemaximum
    @Bootstothemaximum 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not likely to be picked, but I have to put in my request for This is the Dream Beyond Belief from the Rebuild of Evangelion 3.0 + 1.0 OST. Shiro Sagisu has always managed to create absolutely amazing music, and he went above and beyond for this movie. I hope it gets listened to, because I feel like everyone sleeps on this song in particular.

    • @MarcoMeatball
      @MarcoMeatball  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There’s no anime on this channel sadly but I’ll listen to it on my own

  • @ryanschulte3742
    @ryanschulte3742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you please react to Destiny 2: riven of thousand voices
    It’s a space dragon the ability of granting wish and it can end the universe if somebody wished it.

  • @cazzie9598
    @cazzie9598 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i lasted 12 seconds into the music before i started crying

  • @loganrussell3064
    @loganrussell3064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This song only plays twice in the game, both during side quests I believe. They aren't major or anything, but I won't spoil them or anything. But if you plan on trying to play the game again yourself I'd highly recommend trying to do them. All I'll say is the main one I know is that you had to find one of the resistance member's missing partner or something and I'm pretty sure you can already kinda piece together where it's gonna end up going

  • @VEOdev
    @VEOdev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    where is the'' tu tu tu tu ooo waa ooo wawa ooooo ooo oo ooo oo wa waaa ooo waa waaa aaaaaaaa'' part ?

  • @UberNoodle
    @UberNoodle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting what you say about the vowels. I'm a linguist and language teacher (so don't get me started about how amazing Chaos language is!) and I have thought similar things about Japanese. And I don't know about French, but Japanese only has one final consonant, and that is "n", so being a nasal sound it's soft. All other consonants are followed by vowels in syllabic pairs, e.g. itadakimasu. But yes, of course in fluent speech, Japanese speakers often heavily minimise or drop vowels at the end of words after certain consonants, like sibilant s, e.g. itadakimas(u). But my point is, it's not like English. It's very "vowely". I'm sure part of my emotional reaction to music sung in Japanese is due to nostalgia for living there for such a long time, but it's also the phonology of the language (and maybe the syllable timing, as opposed to English which is stress-timed). Oh, and the particular kind of vibrato that is in Japanese traditional and folk singing that appears in contemporary form in modern music, also goes straight through me in the best way possible.

    • @MarcoMeatball
      @MarcoMeatball  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fantastic! Thank you for sharing. Extremely interesting!

  • @devilhunter1383
    @devilhunter1383 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    only 100 more till 20k!

  • @joao32206
    @joao32206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello. You need react Song of Ancients of NieR RepliCant. I love your interpretations about the songs, hugs from Brazil.

  • @chadraccoon
    @chadraccoon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please Ebrietas daughter of cosmos, sir Alonne, soul of cinder my dear friend. Keep it up❤️

  • @fdsaasdf8121
    @fdsaasdf8121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi! I really like your videos on game music, its great that you and people like Alex Moukala bring more attention to these gems, I just wanted to say however that please be careful with fair use. While your channel is still relatively small, I really recommend you splitting up the songs with some more commentary, because companies are getting more and more sensitive about their OST's, especially Nintendo, and Sony. So before you get bigger and have more uploads that could be considered not fair use I do hope you take more breaks, for your own good. Keep making cool stuff!

    • @MarcoMeatball
      @MarcoMeatball  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi! Interesting. More breaks…noted.

  • @tyr573
    @tyr573 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they use different languages for many reasons
    French just sounds better in this case cause of the language and the tunes makes it sound more sad and fits the tunes
    Using more languages than one kinda fits more since its about the whole humanity

  • @juniorazevedo2702
    @juniorazevedo2702 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    React "What Becomes of Us" from Final Fantasy Type 0 pls

  • @toomsool13
    @toomsool13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a French, I am mad at you.
    (hihi just kidding I really like your work)

  • @autizboyz
    @autizboyz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I wish I can be a patreon so I could request song to react to, visa in my country is just dumb. But if you don't mind checking this 1 out it's called mantis lord theme from hollow knight

  • @addzay3135
    @addzay3135 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would we be made you're totally accurate in all you're saying about our beautiful language

  • @AlexDuos
    @AlexDuos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know if anyone else answered, but the singer/song writer created fictional languages that were supposed to sound like futuristic versions of modern languages, so that they sound familiar but not *quite* understandable.

  • @andrelopez3321
    @andrelopez3321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still don't get how to let the piece move you. I can appreciate the music, and I've only played through Automata once, but I can't gather much more than just a somber tone.

    • @MarcoMeatball
      @MarcoMeatball  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch this - th-cam.com/video/r9LCwI5iErE/w-d-xo.html then come back and listen to it with thinking of someone or something you love or a personal memory that means something to you. Might be a fun experiment for you

    • @andrelopez3321
      @andrelopez3321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for sharing Marco.
      I tried listening to the song over and over with different thoughts and memories, but unfortunately I just find my mind wondering.
      I do find the piece more moving now though. trying to listen to it instinctually i suppose, and trying to anticipate where the song is going and trying to take me.
      I can't really feel anything other than the somber atmosphere but I'll try again in the next video.

    • @MarcoMeatball
      @MarcoMeatball  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrelopez3321 don’t stress over it. I believe you’ll get there.but there’s no goal here so don’t worry just enjoy.

  • @SirZorritoYTPVPDesigner
    @SirZorritoYTPVPDesigner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you listen to the evangelion rebuilds ost? They have opera and all of them are so beautiful! 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @vitriolicAmaranth
    @vitriolicAmaranth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's no "they," by the way. The "chaos language" used in the songs is entirely under the direction of the singer, Emi Evans. She is vocal about how it is based on many languages, as she imagines it as a sort of "future language" or system of languages derived from modern languages, befitting NieR (since Gestalt/Replicant is set far in our own future, and Automata is even farther in the future of Gestalt/Replicant). She has also incorporated at least one endangered language before, though (several words from the Chamicuro language are incorporated into her chaos language version of Weight of the World as a means to preserve them).
    Incidentally IIRC Kaine/Salvation is almost entirely based on Scots Gaelic so bigger chunks of it can be translated.

    • @MarcoMeatball
      @MarcoMeatball  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know. I say they just for the sake of respecting both Emi and the composition team/Okabe pretty cool the ownership she has over it

  • @Nitro16Game
    @Nitro16Game 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    pls react to skyrim theme dovahkiin

  • @EyeOfKings
    @EyeOfKings 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sheesh lol how many languages did you learn to do Opera?

    • @MarcoMeatball
      @MarcoMeatball  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spanish, Italian (home language), English (home language), French, German, Russian. Some of these are just the pronunciation.

  • @michaelcuillere5202
    @michaelcuillere5202 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me being french Not knowing a single french word lol

  • @nepnep3687
    @nepnep3687 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    better just play nier automata) it's an indescribable experience

    • @MarcoMeatball
      @MarcoMeatball  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have just don’t remember most of it 🤣

  • @Bass7am
    @Bass7am 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice reaction
    Hope you react to attack on titan osts

    • @MarcoMeatball
      @MarcoMeatball  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope no anime but thank you so much!!!

  • @armacie
    @armacie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're doing all these videogame reacts, but never done the Aria of The Soul from Persona Series (especially Persona 3) is beyond me.

    • @MarcoMeatball
      @MarcoMeatball  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, there is a patreon and paypal, also i don't know persona at all :D

  • @Hvtee
    @Hvtee ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, it wasn't french?