Umbrella Academy Explained - The Meaning Of Vanya - A Deep Dive (Spoilers!)
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This video essay takes a deep dive into Vanya Hargeeves (Number 7/The White Violin). If you like overthinking tv and conversational tangents than you’ll enjoy this.
Vanya, like her siblings, is the product of childhood abuse and neglect. She’s screwed over by nearly everyone in her life, from her father to her siblings, and then finally her boyfriend. Her whole life is built on a lie and this results in a lot of problems, the problems are hers but soon become everyone else’s.
In this video, we go into her psychology, and the themes and philosophy her story explores. We analyze her character in the context of other tv shows, movies, and visual stories.
Vanya is a lot like other comic book characters so her story will feel really familiar if you ever watched a comic book movie or picked up a comic or manga, or heck watched genre TV. I really wish I could have gone into this more but this video is mostly focused on Vanya with a few tangents here and there. There will be other videos, and maybe I’ll explore this trope more then, (the uncontrollable superpower triggered by strong emotions trope I mean) if people are interested.
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The whole "going suddently cold turkey" on the meds she'd been taken since age 4 that mess with her emotions surely didn't help either XD
😂you know what? I didn't actually think of that. Going off your meds cold turkey isn't a good idea for anyone let alone someone with superpowers!
Not to mention they’re mood suppressants so going cold turkey would be like lighting the fuse to a bomb.
@@nightowlcinema8495 I honestly think she should have never been in the meds in the first place but yeah, cold turkerying it and be under the influence of a manipulative murderer didn't help.
I once (many years ago) made the mistake of quitting medications cold turkey and ended up on suicide watch...so yeah, bad idea, not at all helpful...
@@katherinealvarez9216 it sort of was the point, every child gets abused by hagreeves in some form.
I really see the whole thing as how Reginald should have never had children. Because he's bad at it. He was abusive to all of them.
He shouldn't have byed them
@@seksikasrotta9930 bought**
@@itzdaanya oh yes sorry I'm not native speaker
he was thinking like a scientist not a father
@@collinrist2008 was he a good scientist? Was that good science? It definitely wasn't ethical. But was it good science?
I love vanya and I honestly don't get why people say: "I hate vanya. I get that she went through trauma, but that doesn't give her the right to kill people." I agree that you shouldn't kill people, but she just erupted and since she couldn't control her powers and lost her reasons. It's not her fault, but the world's she's sorrounded by
If you kill someone on purpose, it is kind of your fault. She purposefully threw Pogo onto the wall mount so yes, it is her fault. I think a part of her is kind of psychotic
The way they did her character arc is a bit similar to David Haller’s if you’ve seen Legion. So yeah
@@jlinus7251 vanya hands down the best character i don't blame her
@@trinaburo7489 personally didn't like her character all that much. She was so stupid in season 1. Completely ignored all the red flags from Leonard, and when Five told her about the apocalypse before he told anyone else, she implied that he was insane instead of being a good sister and humouring him at least. In season 2 she was a lot better but even as a lesbian myself, I could not get invested in her farm life simulator sub-plot with Sissy.
@@jlinus7251 look what her family did to her i don't blame her and I love her character she sweet
Not really so much as she flew too close to the sun. More like she finally found balance and Luther attacked her causing her to fly to high in attempt to escape him.
I don’t think so because she killed , harold and almost Allison and I dont think that’s a balance
Joshua-Michael Graham naw cuz until Luther rushed at her she was good even smiled at Allison
King Dragold but she still has a darkness inside her
Joshua-Michael Graham who doesn’t have darkness in them
King Dragold a lot of people
Also number 2 the kracken is rather spontanious and emotional as well, it is not just a woman thing.
Abuse creates all sorts of poor dynamic choices.
True! Abuse messes with the lymbic system, this affects self-regulation regardless of gender.
He has a very different power though, doesn't he? Moot point
I resonate with her, i know what's like feeling worthless. Sometimes I wish I had power to feel worthy but then I say to myself, dude if superpowers were real I would destroy the world because. The reason for still having past trauma like vanya
But your different from her your saying you actually wanna destroy the world she didnt want to she just wanted to hurt them for what they did to her allison is the one who caused
Great video. All I add is that the whole ancient counter argument of women being to emotional to handle powers is sexist in it self. Vanya was suppressed by Reginald because he realized that she was the strongest of the 7 and he cant control her, not that she cant control her powers because she could if she was raised normally. He cant use scare tactics to manipulate her or she will lash out, his abusive way of raising them would backfire. There is no doubt or debating there, the ancient notion or belief that women are too emotional is lacking and nonsensical, if that was the case then he would not have chosen female candidates. He would have suppressed Allison as well. The truth is Men are afraid of women who shows strength and they fear not being able to control them. That is it. The emotional argument is trash, especially since most super powers are tied to your emotions, you are as strong as you are mentally. Look at superman, if he was raised and abused as vanya was he would also cause an apocalypse. It doesn't matter if you are male or female, abuse can break anyone. Men do have emotions and its about time we let go of that myth and toxic masculinity. With that being said, nice video, and analysis, Vanya is my favourite character.
This. All of this.
Get a life! Allison handled her powers and did Lila! This is strictly about Vanya's character and her SPECIFIC power in the FICTIONAL ahow called UMBRELLA ACADEMY all women!! What brought toxic masculinity into this video about a fictional character other than your obsessive and divisive views on men-women relationships?
It's very easy to point the finger at men for everything then the moment we open our mouths to express ourselves, all we hear is MANSPLAINING! DO we keep quiet or express ourselves? It can't be both, you bunch of confused, self-contradicting indivuals!
Totally agree with your point and you couldn't have found a better example than Superman to illustrate it. Infact, the same argument can be made for the Joker, because while he doesn't possess powers like Vanya or Superman, he emerged as a villain because of what he suffered through in his life. Its ridiculous that even after a movie like Joker was made to drive home a point about abuse and neglect and how this pattern backfires on its practitioners, people need to analyse female characters in terms of their being female with less focus on their humanity.
While I don't compare Vanya's and the Joker's intentions or methods, they both demonstrated the same pattern of innate anger built up over the years and an explosive outburst that resulted from it.
Wow. The way you described Vanya's feelings, comparated to our lives, that we don't feel special was great. I totally agree, and I hope to see your channel improving. Great work, and keep it up!
At around 7:23, you were describing people and they’re reactions to anti depressants. I was the second thing. Being numb, although helped with the bad feelings, took away my ability to feel anything at all. I couldn’t feel happy, and so all though I didn’t feel like dying from being so sad, I still wasn’t content with existing because I couldn’t feel anything at all.
I’m okay now, in fact, I am very happy with life! I no longer take anti depressants (haven’t for a long time), am happily in a romantic relationship with another being, and am doing well in school. Things CAN get better if you have at least someone who loves and supports you
Really enjoyed this. Thank you for all the effort you went too to make this and decipher her life. Want moar :)
This video is recommended to me and I can't believe you don't have more Followers, because you definitely deserve them 🤔 I really enjoyed this video and I hope you do more videos of the Umbrella Academy
Thanks Helena! 😁 That made me smile IRL. My channel is new so it takes time to build steam and get your videos in front of people. If you guys want some more UA videos I'll make more, I was planning on doing 5 next, then Game of Thrones season started!
Peace
i love how i relate so much to vanya and klaus. i also find it funny how i relate to the two characters with the most broken lives :’)
I just watched this and your video essay about Klaus. Could you please do one for Luther? I feel I'm the only one who doesn't hate him, and I think it would be good if someone did an analysis of what happens to someone who is easily manipulated by their parent and how they struggle to find an identity outside of being their parents' "perfect child" so to speak. In short, Luther deserves just as much love as the rest of the Academy and I would love it if someone made a positive video for him for a change.☺️
Aw, I have scripts written for all the characters, and I have to tell you that the script for Luther wasn't as sympathetic as your analysis here. You've made me want to reconsider his character because he is really damaged. I guess since he's less likable than the other characters people aren't falling over themselves to excuse his behaviour. Is he your favourite?
@@nightowlcinema8495 One of my favorites. He and Vanya were the ones that I related to the most, especially on a personal level.
@@silverstarlightproductions1292 I guess this is why they're fan favourites, everyone can sort of relate to their journey.
Vanya is an Omega level mutant like Dark Phoenix and is a top tier 'supe'!
"Vanya is more powerful than all of us combined!" - Luther (at least twice during season two)
Al principio pensé que sería un mutante nivel alfa. Pero después de s3, me queda claro que es un nivel Omega.
"Es más poderoso que todos nosotros juntos" -luther
"Comparado con tus hermanos eres un Dios viktor, solo necesitas abrir los ojos"- Leonard.
The Meaning of Vanya- when the jocks at school break that weird kid's MP3 and MP4 players so the next day he brings an MP5.
I have no idea why you brought up that gender thing XD It's more about abusive authority figures than anything else.
This was a wonderfully well though out video on Vanya, thank you!
This is amazing analysing, great video
Thank you! :)
You used a Crazy Ex Girlfriend clip, for that I will sub! (Plus you make good videos)
youtube is finally recommending me smaller channels :D
This was amazing, your voice calming, your narration enthralling, the script very put together straight to the point with great amount of quality, just passion at its finest..
Woah that was real good, I didn't want to watch the show but craved knowing more about Vanya. Thanks so much :)
Pretty neat Vanya analysis. Really relatable I liked it. Well done.
Yooooooo you did a great job 10/10 all the way🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
The 5:15 montage for some reason really stood out to me cuz I low key say sorry all the time lol
Also I loved this analysis great vid 😊
I love your content I subscribed right away! You put a lot of work into this! I’m about to make my first video on the character of Vanya, after seeing both seasons 1 and 2 😊
Don't be mansplaining Vanya to me.
Jokes.
Nice lil series, who's next? :)
Don't be assuming my gender! :p Thanks. I think we're gonna take a break from Umbrella Academy and do some Game of Thrones and Sabrina next.
:D
Loved the video!!! =] =] =]
So glad you did this analysis on Vanya.
Now when people ask me why Bonnie is my favorite character I can just send them a link to the video instead of having to explain why I love the crap out of her
Ahh great vid! :)
Thanks, more where this came from, so watch this space.
This video has the best description ever...
The first 3 minutes is pure shade
Super relatable!
Its always about the umbrella ☂️ academy I just never made the cut she does have to do anything to b e special but just be herself 😌 ty great rundown
So beautiful🙏
Can we get an updated version of a Vanya analysis since season 2 is now out? Please?
Vicktor is relatable in many ways ❤
I don’t know if this was for educational purposes but i swear to God i would pay A LOT to give presentations like yours 😞
Do you think the silent shadow is gonna be a new enemy type or just this character?
I alwasy thought Luther was the over-confident one, thinking he was right in locking her up in turn causing the destruction of the world. You matching Leanord and Vanya to Icurus brought a whole new perspective to light. I still think it is Luther's fault though lol.
I saw a lot of myself through Vanya...too much to the point where everyone hating on this character feels almost personal. But I understand that's probably just projection. Still it was almost cathartic witnessing Vanya come into her powers like this
Vanya is my spirit animal
please make of the others siblings
How do you only have 200 subscribers?! I've seen videos a whole lot worse made by people with over 200k subscribers
The Of Meaning Vanya
Bad father, treating his immensely talented children as projects, withholding love, emotion, bonding and trust toward them, only sending them to missions, training and traumatic chambers of tortures...
I'm one of those over thinkers 😥
I hate when bangs screama
I disagree on the part of powerful men control women and women are to emotional for power. The lesson is learning to balance your femininity and masculinity. Vanya was feminine, but she was never given the opportunity to Feel like the others or even to grow, so she has to shove 20 something years of stunted grow in a matter of months.She always been passive (femininity ideal) because fear was instilled in her and when that happens, it stunts your active self from disciplining it traits which is a masculine ideal. Again both concepts are out of balance. I know we are talking about, but a similar thing happened to Luther because in some way his father had some degree of fear in his power as well, and that is why he kept him at side for all these years.The fear that Luther might be better as a leader, so father used him and his love/respect as a footstool in his missions. In order to be a great leader you have to have love which father feared the most. This has nothing to do with the war of female and male. This has something to do with our parents misusing their powers in generations because as the generations progress they focus less of surviving out of fear and more surviving out of love which always scared previous generation.
I kept forgetting her name through my watch through of the show
Leonard isn't diabolical. I totally get him.
I mean he just backs up my view that the meaning of the show is all about the devastating effects of child abuse
You could have explained her character pretty neatly if you hadn't gone all gender specific in the middle of the video. Anyone who has been suppressing their emotions - even basic ones like anger would react the way Vanya did when they found out that the neglect and numbness they struggled with since childhood was because of careful manipulation and lying. Women aren't too emotional to handle powers, that's a bullshit argument and no one said that Hargreaves suppressing Vanya's power had anything to do with her being a girl. He would have done the same to any of the boys if they had her powers.
Vanya's reaction is unique to her character because she is sensitive and struggles with self esteem and fear - it really had nothing to do with her gender. The fact that you had to go there means you're not really past the bullshit our ancestors force fed us down the centuries.
Vanya is my least favorite character in the show. Sure, she has trauma, but her solution to everything is just to kill people. Once I saw her kill the nannies I got furiously pissed. She's just straight up selfish throughout the show.
I get it, she's an emotional and power-laden time bomb, but still.
Do you understand why kids are NOT tried as adults for crimes? They lack the ability to comprehend consequences & the finality of death.
Reg didn't do anything but tsk at the 1st nanny's death, then he goes and brings in 2 more human nannies. What was a 4yr old to learn from that?
@@MSerrada1 yes, I get that, but the nannies were literally doing nothing that even a four year old would respond to with violence. My niece understood death to at least some degree when she was 3 years old and knew it was not a good thing. I think most toddlers can understand to at least some extent that death is not a good thing. In fact, it's specifically around 4 that kids begin to understand death. Ya can't look at a kid who has deliberately killed five people and go "oh they'll learn."
I never said anything about trying them as adults, I'm just saying she was a terrible person from the beginning.
@@educationalporpoises9592 Dude, there are children who throw tantrums because they don't want to eat something ! Maybe most 4 years-old know that killing is bad because they had a normal education, Reggie didn't seem to bother explaining her why what she did was wrong, and he kept changing the nannies as if they were disposable before finally building an indestructible robot mum ( Who was a better parent than him btw). Your behaviour as a toddler doesn't define your personality as an adult.
@@jujublue4426 it kinda did though, because she responded exactly the same way to uprooting her childhood trauma as an adult. She tried to kill her family, murdered the monkey dude, and had pretty much zero regard for the lives around her. The only excusable reason for her to do that is if part of her power is a split personality sorta thing, which seems like a possible excuse.
She's a woman and always will be