It is weird how they say 16 realms even though there are 17. That always confused me as a kid. That would be like if when referring to America you said there were 49 states not including the one you lived in
@legosnek Well just the forced marriage thing may be considered too far for a kids show. As in some countries, arranged marriages are sadly still a thing, especially involving underage people.
@ You can say it’s canon-adjacent, but until it’s actually in the show it’s not canon. In the show itself, it’s unclear whether Ninjago is one of the 16 realms or if there are 16 realms apart from Ninjago. Tommy’s tweet is his interpretation, which’s not more correct than any other. Death of the author and all that.
@@MsNeannait's not like they have every detail in mind when they add things to the lore. I believe it was Tommy in an interview who said theat the crystal theme of the Overlord in Cryatalized didn't have a background thought, they just of it and thought it was cool and gave it to him. So his words don't necesarily reflect what the team was thinking at the moment of making an scene
Also great vid! I particularly like that you touched on the Garmadon resurrection stuff since I feel like that applies to tons of other stuff, like Oni Lloyd, etc
4:28 I know. And it kind of annoys me that however much time 15 seasons of _Masters of Spinjitzu_ amounted to wasn't enough for Jay and Nya to bring their relationship to a decisive conclusion, so excuse my conscious fanon that Jay and Nya got married between _March of the Oni_ and Season 11.
You can say it’s not marriage but it basically is. They’re romantically committed to each other, they live together and there’s no plans for anything more to happen.
Dont know if anyone else has mentioned this one but another (smaller but lesser known) misconception in the series is that "Lightning isn't an element" because of what Garmadon said to Jay in the beginning of Season 4. Like the time travel appearance misconception, this one was also a joke because Sensei Garmadon was making fun of the similarities of Lightning and Speed (because they are both fast)
I think a big misconception that you forgot to include would have been the season numbers themselves. Like how people would call the island special season 14 and seabound season 15
@@MadeByFear Same. And I really haven't cared either way about it. It's as long as the Pilots and Day of the Departed, but it also has four episodes like March of the Oni and was also advertised as season 14 when it initially came out and it wasn't till after its release that the writers started calling it a special. Good arguments on both sides.
3:32 14 at the time of the Merge as the Cursed Realm and Djinjago had been destroyed. While the Preeminent appeared in the Departed Realm, she didn't seem to house any ghosts inside her anymore meaning that the realm she had been connected to collapsed.
I think what supports the "Harumi already brought the evil side of Garmadon back not the nice side" Is the fact we see resurrected garmadon act somewhat like himself from the early seasons (He's nice to Vinny, crisofern, etc) He wouldn't have had that whole arc when he tried to better himself (Weak one in crystalized but it was still there) If there wasn't any humanity in him at all. Though I admit I did think this misconception WAS fact for a while
I always thought that the reason Jay and Nya couldn’t get married was that they couldn’t manage something like that while saving the world every other week as Ninja, so they did the next best thing and got betrothed to each other
I mean, I understand Cole 100% about how he feels about Vania. Yeah, they just met. It hasn't been a year, a month, or at least a few weeks they just now met each other. I'm not saying this to confirm his sexuality, I'm confirming why would he like someone RN when they haven't had a talk with each other or spent any time with each other? Nya and Jay took a couple of episodes to have a connection, PIXAL spent almost an entire season to have one with Zane mainly because she was not programmed to have feelings until Zane sacrificed a part of himself.
I have to disagree since how does Kai’s scar that he has had for at least a year now suddenly swap eye placement, how does Jay gain freckles, how did nya gain a mole, how does Lloyd’s eyes suddenly change green and i won’t take the creators answer on Twitter as canon cause they already changed their answer on that so there’s nothing holding them to their words
@@legosnek freckles dont appear with age they actually do the opposite and lloyd in his flashbacks to when he's a kid has green eyes, the redesign not being from wibbly wobbly time issues idea doesn't work with those two details suddenly appearing after time was messed with
@endzzz3968 Lloyd's green eyes are clearly from his powers, most Lego minifigures don't have distinct eye colors anyway so it's definitely not a retcon either. And they still have the old design in pictures and flashbacks which probably wouldn't be the case if the time travel was the reason for the changes
I have seen sooo many people say lloyd is half oni half dragon no he is not, he is only PART oni and dragon, not half, heck even the dream team episode on youtube had a character say he was half oni and dragon, funny how even the series gets that wrong lol
I just do the "half Oni half Dragon half human" as a joke referring to the 2018-2019 Gacha Life hybrid princesses because Lloyd checks almost all the boxes for one 😭
He said it was due to Wu while fighting the Time Twins in golden hour. When they're fighting outside the monastery Wu gets hit into the wall and it creates a cracked symbol that looks like the emblem of the royal family.
@@yajmal pretty sure that was just an easter egg, the entire royal family coming into existence because Wu hit his head on a wall doesn't seem compatible to me and people have been saying that years before Golden Hour came out
I used to think mr E was the Overlord. Ok let me explain, I thought his eyes looked similar to the eyes seen on the screens that the overlord talked through in rebooted. I also thought mr E didn’t talk to avoid exposing his voice as the overlord. And before garmadon oofs him he looks into mr e’s eyes and that’s when he quite noticeably finds the rage do it.
I believe that Herroomie did only resurrect Garmedon's evil side BUT he is evil because he loves Lloyd, Misako, Wu, etc. Basically, his evil comes from good intentions (weird, I know) so he can learn to be good again, witch is what happens.
When you break down the 16 realms misconception the Grasslands (where Lloyd met the fsm after he briefly died) makes sense because isn't part of the 17 realms. It's outside of it. So there is potentially even MORE realms that we might get to see. (I like to think one of those outside realms is nexo knights. I say outside because it's been confirmed that it's not part of the main 17.)
I'd like to extend the whole Cole and Vania misconception and apply it to him and Geo. So many people believe them to be in a romantic relationship, but in truth Cole is just a very intimate type of friend who likes to hug and be close to those he cares about. Why else would Cole and Nya have the interaction they have in DRS1, which could also be "romantically coated" by the fans. Plus, if they were in a relationship, Doc Wyatt would just come out and say it already, regardless of any backlash
Ninjago community is just full of lgbt fanatics who dread for a character to be ruined so that they can fantasize and create their fan "art" that includes disturbingly sick concepts. I stay away from them, as should any rational individual.
It looks to me very much like they are not in a relationship. The interaction in season 2 part 2 does not look like a couple would interact, more like "mutual crush but nobody has said anything yet".
Well, technically Ninjago did end years ago. At least twice. But then it was revived. One misconception that bugs me is when people conflate two stories from the Serpentine history. There was a war, mentioned in season ... 3, I think? Or was it already in 2? A war that started when the Serpentine tried to warn the humans but the humans misunderstood. After that, the Serpentine decided to live underground. And then there is the war between the Serpentine and the Elemental Masters (and probably some other people) that we got some details about in seasons 1 and 4. It ended with the Elemental Masters using the flutes to imprison the Serpentine in their underground homes. I have seen several times how people explain that this is a retcon when actually, it is just two different wars. It is pretty clear, with one being centuries ago and the other 40 years. In the first one, we even see the Devourer, much smaller than it is in the present, while veterans of the second one, like Pythor, have never seen the Devourer and don't even know where the city it was imprisoned under is.
I’m pretty sure the story you’re referring to is from season 3, and if it is, quick add on: The Great Devourer doesn’t appear in that story (I’m pretty sure), because it isn’t about the Great Devourer, it’s about the Golden Master. It does make sense that these events are different from the Serpentine Wars, but I think this mainly stems from how convoluted Ninjago’s lore can be. The Serpentine Wars were only confirmed to take place 40 years ago in season 7, and I’ve heard people says this decision makes the lore more confusing. Overall, this potential misconception possibly comes down to Ninjago having pretty confusing lore.
@@omaralsofi9855 The Great Devourer is not mentioned in the story told, but seen in the accompanying images. The war was not about it, but it was there. And the events are explicitly separate. Different timeframe, different outcome, different start even. Also, I am pretty sure the Serpentine Wars having been fourty years ago was confirmed in season 4. At least it was confirmed there that it was less than a hundred years ago, as Garmadon and Misako met before the war and Misako is a normal human, but I am pretty sure that 40 years is actually mentioned.
@@moritzlinden7169 Actually the Great Devourer is explicitly mentioned in the story. Acidicus says "after the Great Devourer failed to scare the unbelievers underground...". I think ypu are correct that this and the Serpentine Wars, indeed being 40 years before most of the show takes place, are separate events. It would also explain how the Devourer was sealed and the fangblades were made as it had to have happen sometime after Garmadon's bite and s1. I do think though that the prophecy of the golden master is likely to have been one of the reasons for the many human-snake conflicts history as the two species never really got along. We do know that Chen used misinformation and trickery to start the war, perhaps using the prophecy and misinterpreting it on purpose to manipulate both sides. We know from the shatterspin comics that Chen was very knowledgeable about all sorts of historical things so I think that idea isn't too far fetched.
would one be that the Skypirates stayed on the dark Island because we never see them in prission (from fandom) its defenetly my head canon and a small fisher like village would be cool to see in DR or a mentening of it
3:40: That always confused me, but I'm still a little confused because aren't there only 15 now? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Cursed Realm and Djinjago are still destroyed, right? And they were both two of the realms, so aren't there are only 15?
I was definitely one of those people that thought Cole and Vania were attracted to each other, but since, as we all know, Cole is "alive but gay" they clearly aren't. Or it was one way, and that's how Cole figured out he wasn't attracted to women, which has absolutely no evidence, but it's now my headcanon
5:55 i rewatch the oni trilogy and basically all of garmadons actions were done because he believed he was only the evil side of garmadon and all the things he learned was from harumi
Question for you, which Jay design do you prefer. I personally love the og one and the new one is the only one that doesn’t look anything like his old design
@Dat_SheepMC Not neccessarily, Morro came back once before in day of the departed, the cursed realm was destroyed then too, he'd probably have been in the departed realm, though I'm not quite sure how the Departed realm fits in with the merge.
Wait if Preeminent died and all her ghosts went to the Departed Realm, then Cursed Realm is gone right? And Djinnjago is gone too bc of that right? So we’re down to 15 realms?
When the Legacy short "Golden Hour" was released, I theorized that it spawned a separate timeline which ended up being featured in Season 8 onwards via the butterfly effect. In Dragons Rising S2: Truth And Lies, Ras even says that Master Wu caused The Merge. Though Golden Hour's canonicity was originally intended to be subjective, Doc Wyatt says it's canon.
Ninjago time travel doesn't create timelines it alters the present. "Change something change everything", the royal family came into being due to the events during Wu's battle, heavily implied by the short.
Biggest misconception is people thinking Seabound nerfed the FSM and made it so that he didn’t create the actual realm of Ninjago even though it was revealed that he didn’t in legacy of the green ninja 13 years ago.
So from what you’ve jsut said that means that wu could use destruction and thus probably had an oni form, so why didn’t he bother trying to attain it in crystallised?
Even though Wu has his element of creation to unlock destruction he would have to find his true potential with it the same way Garmadon which would have taken more time that they did not have also Lloyd already tapped into his Oni power, making teaching him how to control important because he already tapped into it also, he is the only person that can unlock the full potential of the power of FSM making him less likely to be affected by destruction negatively with the right training then any other person
So a little thing about the 16/17 realms thing You must likely are right about their being 17 realms, but 2 things 1: In the scene where the Ninja enter into the spinjitzu room of the grave, there are 16 doors, the Jay says it, and you can actually count them 2: In DR S2P2 Cole says there are 16 portals, but this could also be with the temple being number 17
This feels like something that could have been either improperly communicated or changed after. I feel like there's more evidence for there being 16 in total than 16 besides ninjago. Alternatively, it could be that the cloud monk guy was talking about the departed realm, despite it not usually being involved in realm-based activities. I feel like they could realistically do either and have it make sense, and the decision will probably be made in Dragons Rising at some point. I think the departed realm being the 17th would make the most sense, making both interpretations technically correct in different ways.
The only one of these that ever actually confused me was the 17 realms thing. I’ve recently heard a lot of people saying 17 realms and I was like what the heck is going on?!
Wait, this could just be me being stupid, but if Garmadon and Wu have access to creation and destruction thanks to their bloodline, could that theoretically mean Kai has water and Nya has fire too? I mean obviously they don’t, but by that logic, could they?
A ninjago fact i havent heatd anyone talk about that the original zane is in the departed realm. In day of departed we see cryptor after being defeated by zane his soul floats up along with his minions to go back to the departed realm. What does this mean even robots can go to the departed realm. This means our original zane that died in season 3 is their and probably watching the other ninjas having fun with a clone of himself
How would you guys feel about a potential time travel season of ninjago? (Not like Hands of time but something akin to the episode in season 1 or 2 can’t remember Where that have to go back and keep the timeline of the show intact) Like for the 15th anniversary or something like that, imagine Sora in Rebooted holy hell
@@MikhailSamunin the cursed Real still exist, since it is at the same time also a creature. She was inside the departed realm, but now that the merge happend she probably got free wich make it 16 realms again.
@nightlunastar While the Preeminent appeared in the Departed Realm, she didn't appear to house any ghosts inside her anymore meaning that the realm she was connected to had collapsed.
@@MikhailSamunin uh this could be an interesting discussion, realms stay realms even when they is no one left, but the departed realm is also a creature so maybe she just deserve this Titel when she has Ghosts or other alive Things inside 🤔 we schould probably ask doc Wayt
Coz Wu knows the dangers of oni powers. Lloyd was warned by Mystake about the dangers of oni powers, plus you need to use extreme emotions to tap into them. Wu isn't that kind of guy. Heck he barely ever uses creation so he definitely wouldn't use destruction.
@ I wouldn't say that's true all the time. Wu and Garmadon were equal in strength for the majority of their life. Garmadon was stronger after he came back from the realm of madness and got his 4 arms until he was purified. At that point neither used their powers much so that wasn't the reason Garmadon was stronger. After he was revived he was stronger and this time it was due to him using his powers more effectively and commonly than Wu. With the oni form he is significantly stronger than Wu.
Another misconception could be that the ninja are children. From what i remember of interview they actually have no set age at all and as a result the show bounces back and forth between treating them like teens and like adults. (Like in season 3 they were full on teachers and treated like proper adults. Or in season 1/2 where they're shown being able to rent out an apartment on their own without "an adult". Yes characters will sometimes say theyre teenagers but writing wise they are still definity in the grey zone. (This is all more in reference to people claiming specific ages for them like its cannon to critisize others and the series writing.👍 not targetting hc's, cause i myself like to head cannon specific ages throughout the series.)
i would lowk like to see the writers side of wu controlling create and destruction (along with garmadon) lloyd got his golden power from the first spinjiztu master creation and golden power isn’t the same thing
quote from borg. i take fenwick (who introduced the concept of 16 realms to the ninja)'s word regarding the realms over borg (someone who just found out about the realms) looking at it realistically though, that line is probably just a writing error.
I don't like arguing about Vale but I just gotta say no the argument does not start and close with "I don't like her/him like that" yes it is true that they don't date or outwardly express more than a smile in terms of any feeling other than platonic feelings (and a smile is literally nothing) but just because a character says they don't like the other doesn't mean it's true check any piece of media ever and to reiterate I am not saying that there aren't reasons that are in the show for them not to like each other I'm just saying that this specifically isn't one of them
Okay, Ill admit that that means that there are 16 realms. but then why, not just in the show in it's entirety but also in the EXACT SAME SEASON do they say the 16 realms. I think by what they said that they meant that there was 16 realms but I'll probably be proven wrong.
5:30 when the Munce queen is flirting with Jay, she asks if he is betrothed (another word for engaged), and Nya responds with, “Yes. To me!” Pretty concrete proof that the yin/yang promise is their equivalent to engagement.
No because when djinjago got destroyed only the stones and stuff did so like the clouds were still there and stuff so it could merge as for the other realm...yeah I don't know about that
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It is weird how they say 16 realms even though there are 17. That always confused me as a kid. That would be like if when referring to America you said there were 49 states not including the one you lived in
@@theghostwiththemost789 I have a feeling some writers themselves have missed that bit of detail.
Well now there’s only one
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They probably don't count their own because their world is their only reality and they don't percieve it as "one of" other ones
What's the 17th?
Speaking of all the stuff with Weddings in Ninjago, I love how Lego were ok with the show having an orange genie force an underage girl to marry him.
It's almost like he's supposed to be a villain who does bad things because he's evil or something
@legosnek Well just the forced marriage thing may be considered too far for a kids show. As in some countries, arranged marriages are sadly still a thing, especially involving underage people.
@Person-wz6iy maybe, but he's still the bad guy, the whole point is that you're not supposed to be ok with what he's doing
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I thought I was pretty knowledgeable and didn’t fall for any misconceptions, but you got me with 16/17 realms. Guess there’s 17 now
Same
That’s not canon, it’s just something Tommy Andreasen said on twitter.
@@felipevasconcelos6736 Yeah, it's not like Tommy Andreasen was the co-creator of Ninjago, and thus what he says is canon unless stated otherwise
@ You can say it’s canon-adjacent, but until it’s actually in the show it’s not canon.
In the show itself, it’s unclear whether Ninjago is one of the 16 realms or if there are 16 realms apart from Ninjago. Tommy’s tweet is his interpretation, which’s not more correct than any other. Death of the author and all that.
@@MsNeannait's not like they have every detail in mind when they add things to the lore. I believe it was Tommy in an interview who said theat the crystal theme of the Overlord in Cryatalized didn't have a background thought, they just of it and thought it was cool and gave it to him. So his words don't necesarily reflect what the team was thinking at the moment of making an scene
BUT *Zane's butt* takes me out every single time, like clockwork
Also great vid! I particularly like that you touched on the Garmadon resurrection stuff since I feel like that applies to tons of other stuff, like Oni Lloyd, etc
"It's not marrige."
"It's engagement"
BRUH 💀
4:28 I know. And it kind of annoys me that however much time 15 seasons of _Masters of Spinjitzu_ amounted to wasn't enough for Jay and Nya to bring their relationship to a decisive conclusion, so excuse my conscious fanon that Jay and Nya got married between _March of the Oni_ and Season 11.
Having a headcanon and being outright wrong about something that happened in canon are two very different things
@legosnek I'm not saying that it happened, I just pretend to my own heart's content that it did.
@@MikhailSamunin and there's nothing wrong with that but it's clearly not what the video is talking about
You can say it’s not marriage but it basically is. They’re romantically committed to each other, they live together and there’s no plans for anything more to happen.
@Regeor it's more likely engagement, marriage clearly exists as its own separate thing in that universe
Dont know if anyone else has mentioned this one but another (smaller but lesser known) misconception in the series is that "Lightning isn't an element" because of what Garmadon said to Jay in the beginning of Season 4.
Like the time travel appearance misconception, this one was also a joke because Sensei Garmadon was making fun of the similarities of Lightning and Speed (because they are both fast)
I think a big misconception that you forgot to include would have been the season numbers themselves. Like how people would call the island special season 14 and seabound season 15
Even though it really isn't. There are fair arguments to both sides and most importantly.
People won't change their mind about it.
@@BrodyDokkan personally when i watched the island i didnt know it was a special so i just started calling it season 14
@@MadeByFear Same. And I really haven't cared either way about it. It's as long as the Pilots and Day of the Departed, but it also has four episodes like March of the Oni and was also advertised as season 14 when it initially came out and it wasn't till after its release that the writers started calling it a special. Good arguments on both sides.
I would have included this but I have a whole separate video about this particular misconception already: th-cam.com/video/vMXqt755yts/w-d-xo.html
3:32 14 at the time of the Merge as the Cursed Realm and Djinjago had been destroyed. While the Preeminent appeared in the Departed Realm, she didn't seem to house any ghosts inside her anymore meaning that the realm she had been connected to collapsed.
I don’t think that episode is canon
@@Randomrainfrogall episodes are canon
Actually im pretty sure wyatt said we're going to learn more about the cursed and departed realm. So maybe it reformed.
17-2 =15
@Steve-nuru888 I meant 14 besides Nunjago.
1:56 Hey I know that theme. Glad to see it here :)
Edit: Shipshape's a cool outro song too good job dude
Gotta appreciate the Mario and Luigi: Brothership ost in the background
cool ass game. so happy to have mario and luigi back AT LAST!
Been great listening to it in the videos since the game released
I think the hard reboot myth comes from the fact that Netflix separates the show in half. There's before the company change and after.
I think what supports the "Harumi already brought the evil side of Garmadon back not the nice side"
Is the fact we see resurrected garmadon act somewhat like himself from the early seasons (He's nice to Vinny, crisofern, etc)
He wouldn't have had that whole arc when he tried to better himself (Weak one in crystalized but it was still there) If there wasn't any humanity in him at all.
Though I admit I did think this misconception WAS fact for a while
I always thought that the reason Jay and Nya couldn’t get married was that they couldn’t manage something like that while saving the world every other week as Ninja, so they did the next best thing and got betrothed to each other
They have time to do that in between seasons
8:22 well tEcHnIcLy it did but it was just revived.loved the vid Crusty never reall knew any of these besides the last two.
I mean, I understand Cole 100% about how he feels about Vania. Yeah, they just met. It hasn't been a year, a month, or at least a few weeks they just now met each other. I'm not saying this to confirm his sexuality, I'm confirming why would he like someone RN when they haven't had a talk with each other or spent any time with each other?
Nya and Jay took a couple of episodes to have a connection, PIXAL spent almost an entire season to have one with Zane mainly because she was not programmed to have feelings until Zane sacrificed a part of himself.
Yea sog design changes weren’t do to time travel there are many instances where u see the og ninja in pictures
Not to mention all flashbacks set before s8 have the old design
I have to disagree since how does Kai’s scar that he has had for at least a year now suddenly swap eye placement, how does Jay gain freckles, how did nya gain a mole, how does Lloyd’s eyes suddenly change green and i won’t take the creators answer on Twitter as canon cause they already changed their answer on that so there’s nothing holding them to their words
@endzzz3968 Kai never had the scar in the show before s8 and all of the others can be explained by aging
@@legosnek freckles dont appear with age they actually do the opposite and lloyd in his flashbacks to when he's a kid has green eyes, the redesign not being from wibbly wobbly time issues idea doesn't work with those two details suddenly appearing after time was messed with
@endzzz3968 Lloyd's green eyes are clearly from his powers, most Lego minifigures don't have distinct eye colors anyway so it's definitely not a retcon either. And they still have the old design in pictures and flashbacks which probably wouldn't be the case if the time travel was the reason for the changes
0:58 I ain’t ever noticed that Cole had a spoon and a fork on his bag😭😭
He's a hungry man.
@@estebangutierrez160that’s where he stored his cake 😭😭
7:40: Nah! It already got rebooted in Season 3! Get it? Cause the title?
I get it but aw man I was gonna make that joke too lol.
Imagine if people thought Rebooted is an actual reboot, but is not, it's just the season name
1:09 if you're gonna mention cole and vania you'v gotta mention the stupid arin and sora ship💀
And ahem- the fact there are still people that think Lloyd and Nya is a thing when they are basically brother and sister
"nono, see they are a boy and a girl, they have to be a couple" - literally half the community
I can't believe I used to agree with this lol
I have seen sooo many people say lloyd is half oni half dragon
no he is not, he is only PART oni and dragon, not half, heck even the dream team episode on youtube had a character say he was half oni and dragon, funny how even the series gets that wrong lol
that was inside a kid Dream right so it Maybe it was him Who was wrong
@@lasseehrenreich5502 no, not necessarily the kid, since all of them were the dreamers
@@GreenBean-27-z8e okay I have never seen it outside of some clips
I just do the "half Oni half Dragon half human" as a joke referring to the 2018-2019 Gacha Life hybrid princesses because Lloyd checks almost all the boxes for one 😭
@hvnsl god you are right, lloyd is basically the 2018 dacha hybrid princess, trauma, daddy issues, he's the whole deal
2:01 There are also people who think the royal family's existence is a result of the time travel as well which is even more insane to me
that is something tommy said tho
@@Crusty783 when? doesn't really make much sense if you think about it
He said it was due to Wu while fighting the Time Twins in golden hour. When they're fighting outside the monastery Wu gets hit into the wall and it creates a cracked symbol that looks like the emblem of the royal family.
@@yajmal pretty sure that was just an easter egg, the entire royal family coming into existence because Wu hit his head on a wall doesn't seem compatible to me and people have been saying that years before Golden Hour came out
I looked it up and the only source for this is from the guy who had the idea for the short which is hardly an official source
I do like Cole and Vania just being Friends. It's nice to have a female Character who doesn't act as a Lover.
Really is such a MASSIVE franchise
not as massive as ninja's low taper fade
Garmadon giving Lloyd wood 6:16
I used to think mr E was the Overlord. Ok let me explain, I thought his eyes looked similar to the eyes seen on the screens that the overlord talked through in rebooted. I also thought mr E didn’t talk to avoid exposing his voice as the overlord. And before garmadon oofs him he looks into mr e’s eyes and that’s when he quite noticeably finds the rage do it.
I believe that Herroomie did only resurrect Garmedon's evil side BUT he is evil because he loves Lloyd, Misako, Wu, etc. Basically, his evil comes from good intentions (weird, I know) so he can learn to be good again, witch is what happens.
0:14 Memory unlocked😇
Great vid dude like usual
thank you! :)
0:20 you know what else is massive
This video was really helpful I hadn't know most of these were misconceptions
When you break down the 16 realms misconception the Grasslands (where Lloyd met the fsm after he briefly died) makes sense because isn't part of the 17 realms. It's outside of it. So there is potentially even MORE realms that we might get to see. (I like to think one of those outside realms is nexo knights. I say outside because it's been confirmed that it's not part of the main 17.)
Friendship, now, lets talk about the misconceptions of Friendship.
Friendship, is Myth. (Bang)
(Joke from Piemations)
I'd like to extend the whole Cole and Vania misconception and apply it to him and Geo. So many people believe them to be in a romantic relationship, but in truth Cole is just a very intimate type of friend who likes to hug and be close to those he cares about. Why else would Cole and Nya have the interaction they have in DRS1, which could also be "romantically coated" by the fans. Plus, if they were in a relationship, Doc Wyatt would just come out and say it already, regardless of any backlash
Ninjago community is just full of lgbt fanatics who dread for a character to be ruined so that they can fantasize and create their fan "art" that includes disturbingly sick concepts. I stay away from them, as should any rational individual.
It looks to me very much like they are not in a relationship. The interaction in season 2 part 2 does not look like a couple would interact, more like "mutual crush but nobody has said anything yet".
You should also include one of the biggest (debunked) misconceptions: "Island is Seasons 14 and Seabound is Seasons 15"
I think the Yangyang thing it’s like a promise thing some couples do that if they’re not ready for marriage I still want to be together
Well, technically Ninjago did end years ago. At least twice. But then it was revived.
One misconception that bugs me is when people conflate two stories from the Serpentine history. There was a war, mentioned in season ... 3, I think? Or was it already in 2? A war that started when the Serpentine tried to warn the humans but the humans misunderstood. After that, the Serpentine decided to live underground. And then there is the war between the Serpentine and the Elemental Masters (and probably some other people) that we got some details about in seasons 1 and 4. It ended with the Elemental Masters using the flutes to imprison the Serpentine in their underground homes. I have seen several times how people explain that this is a retcon when actually, it is just two different wars. It is pretty clear, with one being centuries ago and the other 40 years. In the first one, we even see the Devourer, much smaller than it is in the present, while veterans of the second one, like Pythor, have never seen the Devourer and don't even know where the city it was imprisoned under is.
I’m pretty sure the story you’re referring to is from season 3, and if it is, quick add on: The Great Devourer doesn’t appear in that story (I’m pretty sure), because it isn’t about the Great Devourer, it’s about the Golden Master. It does make sense that these events are different from the Serpentine Wars, but I think this mainly stems from how convoluted Ninjago’s lore can be. The Serpentine Wars were only confirmed to take place 40 years ago in season 7, and I’ve heard people says this decision makes the lore more confusing. Overall, this potential misconception possibly comes down to Ninjago having pretty confusing lore.
@@omaralsofi9855 The Great Devourer is not mentioned in the story told, but seen in the accompanying images. The war was not about it, but it was there. And the events are explicitly separate. Different timeframe, different outcome, different start even. Also, I am pretty sure the Serpentine Wars having been fourty years ago was confirmed in season 4. At least it was confirmed there that it was less than a hundred years ago, as Garmadon and Misako met before the war and Misako is a normal human, but I am pretty sure that 40 years is actually mentioned.
@@moritzlinden7169 Actually the Great Devourer is explicitly mentioned in the story. Acidicus says "after the Great Devourer failed to scare the unbelievers underground...". I think ypu are correct that this and the Serpentine Wars, indeed being 40 years before most of the show takes place, are separate events. It would also explain how the Devourer was sealed and the fangblades were made as it had to have happen sometime after Garmadon's bite and s1.
I do think though that the prophecy of the golden master is likely to have been one of the reasons for the many human-snake conflicts history as the two species never really got along. We do know that Chen used misinformation and trickery to start the war, perhaps using the prophecy and misinterpreting it on purpose to manipulate both sides. We know from the shatterspin comics that Chen was very knowledgeable about all sorts of historical things so I think that idea isn't too far fetched.
when i first saw the new character designs i concluded that they had just grown up and that was it
would one be that the Skypirates stayed on the dark Island because we never see them in prission (from fandom)
its defenetly my head canon and a small fisher like village would be cool to see in DR or a mentening of it
No there is 16 realms, djinjago got destroyed and (unlike the departed realm) never came back
Actually there are 15, the cursed realm was also destroyed.
Harumi didn't resurrect ONLY Garmadon's evil.
She resurrected Garmadon AS Evil.
3:40: That always confused me, but I'm still a little confused because aren't there only 15 now? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Cursed Realm and Djinjago are still destroyed, right? And they were both two of the realms, so aren't there are only 15?
2:52 so a out of universe retcon
Yes
I was definitely one of those people that thought Cole and Vania were attracted to each other, but since, as we all know, Cole is "alive but gay" they clearly aren't.
Or it was one way, and that's how Cole figured out he wasn't attracted to women, which has absolutely no evidence, but it's now my headcanon
Lloyds golden powers are not creation. Its something different
yep
5:55 i rewatch the oni trilogy and basically all of garmadons actions were done because he believed he was only the evil side of garmadon and all the things he learned was from harumi
Question for you, which Jay design do you prefer. I personally love the og one and the new one is the only one that doesn’t look anything like his old design
i love this ninjago channel. i love listening to it in the background while playing other games
0:03 and you know what else is massive?
1:48: I was unfortunately guilty of shipping them, but nowadays, I ship Cole with Geo. 🖤💜Or Cole with Cake. 🍰🖤
Bruh shipping cole with geo is just stupid i can't
Cole x cake is the best🍰❤️! There is nothing wrong with shipping Cole x Vania, tho, although they don't have feelings for each other
I still ship lava idk if i could part with it
@alexadamns8115 why would you ship that they are literaly like brothers 💀
@@Ruben99677 still better than kai x garmadon (i've seen things)
There are actually 15 realms presently, the Pre'eminant and Jinjago were destroyed.
Well if you watched dragon rising there is a jjyn that is restoring jinjago and if morro comes back that means the cursed realm is still active
@Dat_SheepMC Not neccessarily, Morro came back once before in day of the departed, the cursed realm was destroyed then too, he'd probably have been in the departed realm, though I'm not quite sure how the Departed realm fits in with the merge.
Well Cole and Vania aren't yet a couple but they will sometime at that point they weren't but that doesn't mean they can't become lovers
Wait if Preeminent died and all her ghosts went to the Departed Realm, then Cursed Realm is gone right? And Djinnjago is gone too bc of that right? So we’re down to 15 realms?
yeah
When the Legacy short "Golden Hour" was released, I theorized that it spawned a separate timeline which ended up being featured in Season 8 onwards via the butterfly effect. In Dragons Rising S2: Truth And Lies, Ras even says that Master Wu caused The Merge. Though Golden Hour's canonicity was originally intended to be subjective, Doc Wyatt says it's canon.
Ninjago time travel doesn't create timelines it alters the present. "Change something change everything", the royal family came into being due to the events during Wu's battle, heavily implied by the short.
Biggest misconception is people thinking Seabound nerfed the FSM and made it so that he didn’t create the actual realm of Ninjago even though it was revealed that he didn’t in legacy of the green ninja 13 years ago.
So from what you’ve jsut said that means that wu could use destruction and thus probably had an oni form, so why didn’t he bother trying to attain it in crystallised?
Even though Wu has his element of creation to unlock destruction he would have to find his true potential with it the same way Garmadon which would have taken more time that they did not have also Lloyd already tapped into his Oni power, making teaching him how to control important because he already tapped into it also, he is the only person that can unlock the full potential of the power of FSM making him less likely to be affected by destruction negatively with the right training then any other person
because crystalized is stupid
I'll still headcanon that the design change was due to the time thing, I like it!
So a little thing about the 16/17 realms thing
You must likely are right about their being 17 realms, but 2 things
1: In the scene where the Ninja enter into the spinjitzu room of the grave, there are 16 doors, the Jay says it, and you can actually count them
2: In DR S2P2 Cole says there are 16 portals, but this could also be with the temple being number 17
@HelloChick Ninjago was the 17th realm in the grave doorway thing
the doors in season 5 arent representing the realms jay was just speculating about what they were
This feels like something that could have been either improperly communicated or changed after.
I feel like there's more evidence for there being 16 in total than 16 besides ninjago.
Alternatively, it could be that the cloud monk guy was talking about the departed realm, despite it not usually being involved in realm-based activities.
I feel like they could realistically do either and have it make sense, and the decision will probably be made in Dragons Rising at some point.
I think the departed realm being the 17th would make the most sense, making both interpretations technically correct in different ways.
3:50 it's true that they're are cannonicly 17 realms... but saying 16 realms COULD techniclly be also true, due to Preeminent "Dying" in season 3
That was in season 5
@@legosnek But the consequences are still, cause I would need a proof that Preeminent "Came From the Dead", and become a full on Realm again
@KingComingEdits it didn't, well it did once but then died again
In Ninjago, Logical Villains, is a Myth.
The only one of these that ever actually confused me was the 17 realms thing. I’ve recently heard a lot of people saying 17 realms and I was like what the heck is going on?!
5:30: Hang on, so give or take, Jay and Nya have been engaged for, like, ten years or something?
yea😭its silly
Wait, if the 16 realms are referring to the realms connected to Ninjago, could that possibly mean there are other realms which aren’t?
Wait, this could just be me being stupid, but if Garmadon and Wu have access to creation and destruction thanks to their bloodline, could that theoretically mean Kai has water and Nya has fire too? I mean obviously they don’t, but by that logic, could they?
That isn't gonna stop them from shipping them 😂
8:14 Damn, I didn’t know that
3 uploads this week? Have the source dragons blessed us, or am I dreaming?
Yes you are
I think that jay found somthing like the ying jang promoce because the last wedding he was on did not end well (nyas death)
A ninjago fact i havent heatd anyone talk about that the original zane is in the departed realm. In day of departed we see cryptor after being defeated by zane his soul floats up along with his minions to go back to the departed realm. What does this mean even robots can go to the departed realm. This means our original zane that died in season 3 is their and probably watching the other ninjas having fun with a clone of himself
You need to rewatch S4, Zane and Pixal clearly state he's the same soul
YES!! Finally, someone else believes that Cole and Vania are just good friends!
4:10 i mean theres still 16 realms but its not the maxium amount
In my headcanon the ninja did change appearance because of the disturbances in time, even if it's not hard canon.
6:38 he died in season 5 brudda
Where is Shintaro now
We still need to subtract Djinjago and the the cursed realm so there are a tottal of 15 worlds
Wait, so are you saying that Lloyds golden Power is actually creation and Garmadon and Wu also have it? I am confused, help :')
It's cool I ship him and GEO
How would you guys feel about a potential time travel season of ninjago? (Not like Hands of time but something akin to the episode in season 1 or 2 can’t remember Where that have to go back and keep the timeline of the show intact) Like for the 15th anniversary or something like that, imagine Sora in Rebooted holy hell
People forget that two realms get destroyed
Also don’t forgot djinjago is kinda gone now so there are 16
@@BillyCrystalHunter As is the Cursed Realm.
@@MikhailSamunin the cursed Real still exist, since it is at the same time also a creature. She was inside the departed realm, but now that the merge happend she probably got free wich make it 16 realms again.
@nightlunastar While the Preeminent appeared in the Departed Realm, she didn't appear to house any ghosts inside her anymore meaning that the realm she was connected to had collapsed.
@@MikhailSamunin uh this could be an interesting discussion, realms stay realms even when they is no one left, but the departed realm is also a creature so maybe she just deserve this Titel when she has Ghosts or other alive Things inside 🤔 we schould probably ask doc Wayt
Thank you!! This is very very helpful 😅
There aren't 17 realms, only 15. The cursed realm was destroyed s5 and jinjago in s6 but I haven't watched dragon rising so idk
A piece of djingago still exists inside a bottle, a djinn named arrakore has it.
Loved the video I just have issues with Zane (in general)
thank you! its annoying when that happens
Bro called me an idiot in 16 different languages parallel to English
Yay I passed the misconceptions test
my boy is back!
How come Garmadon can control creation and destruction but Wu can only control Creation? I never seen Wu use his Oni powers
Coz Wu knows the dangers of oni powers. Lloyd was warned by Mystake about the dangers of oni powers, plus you need to use extreme emotions to tap into them. Wu isn't that kind of guy. Heck he barely ever uses creation so he definitely wouldn't use destruction.
@ makes sense. Out of the brothers, Garmadon seems the most powerful because he can control both elements more easily than Wu
@ I wouldn't say that's true all the time. Wu and Garmadon were equal in strength for the majority of their life. Garmadon was stronger after he came back from the realm of madness and got his 4 arms until he was purified. At that point neither used their powers much so that wasn't the reason Garmadon was stronger. After he was revived he was stronger and this time it was due to him using his powers more effectively and commonly than Wu. With the oni form he is significantly stronger than Wu.
Another misconception could be that the ninja are children. From what i remember of interview they actually have no set age at all and as a result the show bounces back and forth between treating them like teens and like adults. (Like in season 3 they were full on teachers and treated like proper adults. Or in season 1/2 where they're shown being able to rent out an apartment on their own without "an adult".
Yes characters will sometimes say theyre teenagers but writing wise they are still definity in the grey zone.
(This is all more in reference to people claiming specific ages for them like its cannon to critisize others and the series writing.👍 not targetting hc's, cause i myself like to head cannon specific ages throughout the series.)
How can someone see the ninjas as kids
No way we got back to back crusty uploads
i would lowk like to see the writers side of wu controlling create and destruction (along with garmadon) lloyd got his golden power from the first spinjiztu master creation and golden power isn’t the same thing
Wow, I had all these misconceptions...😅
(except the last two)
but in the temple , cole counted 16 doors including the monastery of ninjago to 16realms
the door leading into the monastery was the seventeenth realm door (confirmed by doc wyatt)
@@Crusty783 so why did cole clearly said 16
because there's 16 other doors excluding the one they just went in
"it is common knowledge that ninjago is one of 16 realms" ???
quote from borg. i take fenwick (who introduced the concept of 16 realms to the ninja)'s word regarding the realms over borg (someone who just found out about the realms)
looking at it realistically though, that line is probably just a writing error.
I don't like arguing about Vale but I just gotta say
no the argument does not start and close with "I don't like her/him like that"
yes it is true that they don't date or outwardly express more than a smile in terms of any feeling other than platonic feelings (and a smile is literally nothing)
but just because a character says they don't like the other doesn't mean it's true
check any piece of media ever
and to reiterate I am not saying that there aren't reasons that are in the show for them not to like each other I'm just saying that this specifically isn't one of them
5:23 nahhh they are promise rings
(don't take that seriously. I have no idea what they actual are)
Okay, Ill admit that that means that there are 16 realms. but then why, not just in the show in it's entirety but also in the EXACT SAME SEASON do they say the 16 realms. I think by what they said that they meant that there was 16 realms but I'll probably be proven wrong.
5:30 when the Munce queen is flirting with Jay, she asks if he is betrothed (another word for engaged), and Nya responds with, “Yes. To me!” Pretty concrete proof that the yin/yang promise is their equivalent to engagement.
Tommy andreason said Cole and Vania where up to interpratation or something.
I thought the confirmation that they weren’t romantically involved came from him??
@@missing_name that was Doc Wyatt
@Ekenebricks My bad, I think I was thinking about another character
4:18 erm actully 🤓 since djinjago and the cursed relam got destroyed shouldnt it be 15 realms?
No because when djinjago got destroyed only the stones and stuff did so like the clouds were still there and stuff so it could merge as for the other realm...yeah I don't know about that