Love your video.. Very information along.. Ever have a brake on a GoGo Traveler Elite 4 wheeler backup trying to lock up and sound like metal sweaking?
Thanks for this but my scooters show ohms with button in and is in drive mode. Free wheel with no ohms with button out. Is drive mode with button out on all models? Thanks
Thanks for this. I've tested our brake on the Midi 4 with your tests. Kaput. I've seen an identical replacement, but its label says 18W whereas ours says 12W. Is that important? Also, are the levers interchangable?
I asked the other day if the little gasket between motor brake and micro switch was important, was told no. After fitting a new micro switch the scooter would only work in free-wheel and not drive, if I took he switch away from the motor brake, it worked as normal, at first I thought I had my wires crossed, didn't make any difference?
hi great videos cant turn off.anyway i have a problem with my gogo,it runs on,that is when I let go of the tiller (forward or reverse) its keeps moving for about 2ft before it stops.is it an easy fix.
Is it possible to put pneumatic tyres on my 4 wheeler gogo. Or replace the wheel s with pneumatic? Not really about brakes but of interest to me and possible other people ?
I think my kymco midi brake is sticking on, I have continuity and I have 31 ohlms from the e-brake. Scooter is going slow brake doesn't come on straight away when accelerator is released, comes on viciously about a second later causing the back wheels to lock up and slide
Maybe a programming issue or a worn motor. Scooter will slow down before brakes comes on but if it takes longer to slow down then brake I’ll come on while it’s driving. Hence stopping fast
Cheers for this, I've just took apart one of those new brakes that don't have the lever as its stuck in brake mode. I tested it with 12v like I did the motor and nothing is happening with the brake. Do I need the full 24v to activate the brake then? So these are not meant to be able to be pushed free wheel? Thanks
24v doesn't activate it either. You can only take it apart so far. Its sealed. Don't like buying replacements but at least its not the control module lol.
I would replace the brake and yes you would need 24 volts to activate the solenoid/ brake when power is applied the disc should move. But If you hear a click try and dislodge the disc by trying to insert something thin in the gap to dislodge the disk that is stuck
Thanks for getting back to me👍👍No click at all. I did take the discs out and although a little oily they were clean. I've blasted it with electrical spray but still no click. I will get new brake. I did attach a different electric brake just to see if the scooter would go but error 7 came up instead. Just hope its because it didn't recognise new brake and not a cpu problem also. @@tomjacques4
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I was getting the four beep brake code on a Golden Buzzaround. The micro switch was bad so I removed it from the circuit. The brake should still be getting 24 volts with the switch removed from the circuit, but one wheel is spinning slower than the other and stopping quicker than the other. I believe that maybe the brake is dragging. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
@@tomjacques4 Thank you for the quick and informative reply. I failed to mention that the scooter will barely move on the slowest setting, but I don’t think the speed pot is bad as everything else was working before the brake issue. Could it have something to do with the problems I was having with the brake?
Scooter draws to many amps on up hills. Changed motor, disconcerted brake. Batteries new and checked all wiring and connecters. Could it be the controller?
Could be that the hill is too steep for the scooter. Did you ask the manufacturer what the current draw should be. May be an issue with the trans axle.
Draws the needle into the yellow on the slightest of hills. Could the break still draw amps even though its disconnected from the motor. Could the controller cause this?
Help please.. I have a TE-sl7-4 scooter, has been stolen and recovered, BUT.. they have taken off the main switch.. which way do the wires go back on please
I have a pride gogo and the brake goes off on its own whilst driving can happen anytime even when I have been crossing a busy road any help appreciated
The electric brake on my CTM scooter has failed. Smoke , smell and seized . 5 flash code = electric brake . I have just replaced it with new one of differ wattage and it still brings up the fault . Is the controller not recognizing it because of the different wattage ? .
Hello... Thanks for uploading this. I'm hoping you can help, I cannot find anything online to help. I am in the process of installing the wiring from a scooter into my little boys electric car. The problem I have is getting power to the motor (not the scooter motor) no matter what I do I cannot get power unless the brake/freewheel wiring is connected to the loom. I have tried bridging the wires supplying the brake but I get no power from motor wires. I cannot work out why bridging the brake/free wheel wires doesn't work 🤔 I really hope you can help, my little boys patience is wearing thin. James
I am looking for an electric brake for a Pride Go Go scooter. The brake currently on it is a Warner WR198A203P2. Do you have one available or know where i might be able to get one. Thank You
Great vids! I have an ebrake which gets warm just with the motor running with wheels off the ground, is that normal? not too hot to touch but pretty warm, are they supposed to run completely cool? Resistance is 48 ohmns, have cleaned out the clutch faces no dirt in there any more.
so did a bit more testing, my resistance from memory was wrong, it is 37ohmns, so I just applied 24v to the brake and it works fine, current draw initially is 610mA, which matches the resistance @ 24v, but over time it gets hotter and the current goes down, after 5 mins current was 510mA and brake was pretty hot. So have to assume the resistance goes up as it gets hotter, that would explain the heat. These things are damn expensive items, toying with the idea of rewinding it myself. Is there some way to repair the windings? its all potted in epoxy so will be difficult job to get the old windings out and see what size wire is used.
I took the brake out and applied 24v using a mutlimeter to measure amps flowing through the ebrakewindings. I have some further info, I dismantled the ebrake, took the windings out, there is a layer of fibreglass resin on top of the windings holds them in place, had to chip out with screwdriver and hammer the resin, then removed windings. There was an extremely nasty burnt smell in the windings, so they had got really hot. I assume over time the windings rub against each other each time applied and slowly wear off the enamel coating, shorts start to occur and heating of windings. Anyhow watched a few videos on rewinding coils, doesn't look too complicated, I ordered some winding wire off aliexpress ( o.3mm is the size I measured in the coil). The weight of the wndings I forget but need about 150m of wire, since its so small diamater thats only a small roll of wire. I will put exactly same weight of copper as came out and hope that gives correct number of winds, it should be pretty close. The fibreglass resin doesn't infuse into the windings just sits on top of them, so weight should be quite correct.@@claydo364
tehnically its called expoxy resin, but fibreglass resin I just use it as general term Yes I suggest you get a second hand scooter and fix it with your wisdom@@claydo364
Mr Green most electric brakes that are used in mobility scooters use 24volts. I can recall around 20 years ago some used 12volts. But it’s was rare. Some scooters may have a system that it’s motor is 36 or 48 and they would have a special electric brakes or just fit a lower rated brake and get the controller only to supply a certain voltage as per spec.
@@tomjacques4 Thanks for the reply!, Im asking beause im planning to take an old scooter i have with a dying motor, and overvolt it for some fun on the mud! Its a shoprider sovereign mobility scooter its all 24v im planning to install an extra battery and connect it and the motor (24v 450w) to an ebike 36v 700w controller and throttle, the scooter has no manual brakes/levers so my idea is to supply constant voltage to the brake and make it disengage on a momentary switch for skids! Can i ask you a question If the above does not work, do you know if the brushes on the motor brushes will slow down the scooter like it normally would with the brake wired up but not physically connected to the motor?
Mr Green you may find the if you use a brushless motor the speed may not increase if you add more voltage it will all depend on the motor that is fitted.
Usually means that it doesn't matter, with an electromagent, there is no real correct polarity, just connect them up to something that can take some decent current draw with some decent wires.
I have a scooter with a 3 wire micro switch, goes into a 4 wire plug, I’m trying to eliminate the brake all together. Any input on how to bypass? Seems to be 24v comes in to the brake and the micro switch, but not sure how to bypass and make it work. Any help?
Jonathan Denham hi there what’s the name and model. Why do you want to bypass it . It’s there for a reason. Does the scooter drive ? What the error code?
It’s a rascal 600 I believe. The motor looks to have been under salt water and is locked up. I am attempting to just use the control system to run a different motor in a different application. Basically I need a motor speed controller to run a power wheels style motor/gear box. I ordered a 47 ohm resistor to put in place of the electric brake so that the controller still sees a load. The 3 wires on the micro switch is what’s throwing me for a loop. Unsure of how to get fault codes, doesn’t have an LED and it’s not digital, just has a key switch with seat lift/off/on, a horn and a battery charge level indicator
@@tomjacques4 it's OK tested brake on 24volt 100%. Problem is with the motor fitted new brushes last month but someone told me the shaft should of been cleaned before installing brushes with a carbon fibre pen?
@@tomjacques4 thanks for reply yes it's quite black also I took the motor apart today the amount of loose carbon in it was unreal I don't have a air gun is there any other way this can be cleaned also when removing top part of motor the bearing came out with it and I found like a off set washer just by chance would this be the spring you said in the video does it just sit behind bearing then thank you for replying
John Shanks hi yes the spring type washers sit between aluminium moulding and bearing. It’s ok the bearing comes out with me as well. You can purchase a can of air to clean your keyboard. Or blow into a small pipe / straw and point it to the area until you faint. Lol
Great Vid! Thank you ... Just to state ... I am sick of these companies thinking that EVERYONE who needs a mobility aid is old and feeble ... ooo lets go 15 km and brake on hills so you are stopped in the middle of an intersection .... you could get killed with these stupid auto brakes ... drives me nuts Does anyone know of a mobility scooter that has hand brakes and can go 25 to 30 km?
on my gogo scooter the microswitch checked out OK. but the scooter will still not drive and is still giving the error code 5 (5 beeps). could the problem be in the electric break instead? any thoughts would be greatly appreciated thank you
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Brake slowing vehicle down but doesn't work when stopped,can you help you have helped me out before cleaning the commutator,.your a legend in my mind❤
Love your video..
Very information along..
Ever have a brake on a GoGo Traveler Elite 4 wheeler backup trying to lock up and sound like metal sweaking?
Excellent video.
Thanks for this but my scooters show ohms with button in and is in drive mode. Free wheel with no ohms with button out. Is drive mode with button out on all models? Thanks
Thanks for this. I've tested our brake on the Midi 4 with your tests. Kaput. I've seen an identical replacement, but its label says 18W whereas ours says 12W. Is that important? Also, are the levers interchangable?
@@andymann6061 the wattage means the brake strength and yes lever is exchangeable. If you send me your model number I can check for you
If unplugged will that plate you wiggle stiffen up?
That was a great point to establish heat source
I asked the other day if the little gasket between motor brake and micro switch was important, was told no. After fitting a new micro switch the scooter would only work in free-wheel and not drive, if I took he switch away from the motor brake, it worked as normal, at first I thought I had my wires crossed, didn't make any difference?
Must of wired the micro switch up wrong 😑
Or it’s the wrong type of switch
hi great videos cant turn off.anyway i have a problem with my gogo,it runs on,that is when I let go of the tiller (forward or reverse) its keeps moving for about 2ft before it stops.is it an easy fix.
at max speed it will take some time to stop if you want it to stop quicker than you need an engineer to alter the software in the program
Than you for sharing your wisdom
Is it possible to put pneumatic tyres on my 4 wheeler gogo. Or replace the wheel s with pneumatic? Not really about brakes but of interest to me and possible other people ?
@@Pugwash666 sorry pride do not offer this type of pneumatic wheel Assy.
I think my kymco midi brake is sticking on, I have continuity and I have 31 ohlms from the e-brake. Scooter is going slow brake doesn't come on straight away when accelerator is released, comes on viciously about a second later causing the back wheels to lock up and slide
Maybe a programming issue or a worn motor. Scooter will slow down before brakes comes on but if it takes longer to slow down then brake I’ll come on while it’s driving. Hence stopping fast
Cheers for this, I've just took apart one of those new brakes that don't have the lever as its stuck in brake mode. I tested it with 12v like I did the motor and nothing is happening with the brake. Do I need the full 24v to activate the brake then? So these are not meant to be able to be pushed free wheel? Thanks
24v doesn't activate it either. You can only take it apart so far. Its sealed. Don't like buying replacements but at least its not the control module lol.
Yeah, its an open circuit. No resistance and you can't get to the where the neg a pos wires connect inside
I would replace the brake and yes you would need 24 volts to activate the solenoid/ brake when power is applied the disc should move. But If you hear a click try and dislodge the disc by trying to insert something thin in the gap to dislodge the disk that is stuck
Thanks for getting back to me👍👍No click at all. I did take the discs out and although a little oily they were clean. I've blasted it with electrical spray but still no click. I will get new brake. I did attach a different electric brake just to see if the scooter would go but error 7 came up instead. Just hope its because it didn't recognise new brake and not a cpu problem also.
@@tomjacques4
bonjour j'ai des batterie neuve de l'année passer et cette année les petite lumière ne reste pas en place monte et descent ses un quadriporteur xl 2016
I was getting the four beep brake code on a Golden Buzzaround. The micro switch was bad so I removed it from the circuit. The brake should still be getting 24 volts with the switch removed from the circuit, but one wheel is spinning slower than the other and stopping quicker than the other. I believe that maybe the brake is dragging. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
It’s normal
If one wheel spins slower than the other as they are fitted with a differential.
@@tomjacques4 Thank you for the quick and informative reply. I failed to mention that the scooter will barely move on the slowest setting, but I don’t think the speed pot is bad as everything else was working before the brake issue. Could it have something to do with the problems I was having with the brake?
Scooter draws to many amps on up hills. Changed motor, disconcerted brake. Batteries new and checked all wiring and connecters. Could it be the controller?
Could be that the hill is too steep for the scooter. Did you ask the manufacturer what the current draw should be. May be an issue with the trans axle.
Draws the needle into the yellow on the slightest of hills. Could the break still draw amps even though its disconnected from the motor. Could the controller cause this?
@@terrancesimpson no controller would not it will be the motor that draws as it’s struggling up hill
Have a shoprider dasher3 scooter that needs the brake. Can you ship to the usa?
Help please.. I have a TE-sl7-4 scooter, has been stolen and recovered, BUT.. they have taken off the main switch.. which way do the wires go back on please
I have a pride gogo and the brake goes off on its own whilst driving can happen anytime even when I have been crossing a busy road any help appreciated
Could be a slack connection or a worn touch pad
Hi Tom are all the square battery gauges the same Thanks
The electric brake on my CTM scooter has failed. Smoke , smell and seized . 5 flash code = electric brake . I have just replaced it with new one of differ wattage and it still brings up the fault . Is the controller not recognizing it because of the different wattage ? .
Hi 👋, you should always replace like for like in voltage and wattage. Some brakes can be wired differently so that could be the issue.
hello friend i have need electric brake second hand for shiprider TE-889XLSRN can you send to me place to Netherland how is kost with shipping?
Hello... Thanks for uploading this. I'm hoping you can help, I cannot find anything online to help.
I am in the process of installing the wiring from a scooter into my little boys electric car.
The problem I have is getting power to the motor (not the scooter motor) no matter what I do I cannot get power unless the brake/freewheel wiring is connected to the loom. I have tried bridging the wires supplying the brake but I get no power from motor wires. I cannot work out why bridging the brake/free wheel wires doesn't work 🤔
I really hope you can help, my little boys patience is wearing thin.
James
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If I put the freewheel lever on so that I can push the scooter but it won’t push what could be wrong ?
Brake is stuck on is a possibility I would remove it and check
I am looking for an electric brake for a Pride Go Go scooter. The brake currently on it is a Warner WR198A203P2. Do you have one available or know where i might be able to get one.
Thank You
www.nithsdale-wheelchairs.com/prods/11440/pride--electric-brakes.html
Ver useful information, can you tell me does the electric brake get hot in normal use?
Andrew can get very warm
Great vids! I have an ebrake which gets warm just with the motor running with wheels off the ground, is that normal? not too hot to touch but pretty warm, are they supposed to run completely cool?
Resistance is 48 ohmns, have cleaned out the clutch faces no dirt in there any more.
so did a bit more testing, my resistance from memory was wrong, it is 37ohmns, so I just applied 24v to the brake and it works fine, current draw initially is 610mA, which matches the resistance @ 24v, but over time it gets hotter and the current goes down, after 5 mins current was 510mA and brake was pretty hot. So have to assume the resistance goes up as it gets hotter, that would explain the heat.
These things are damn expensive items, toying with the idea of rewinding it myself.
Is there some way to repair the windings? its all potted in epoxy so will be difficult job to get the old windings out and see what size wire is used.
I took the brake out and applied 24v using a mutlimeter to measure amps flowing through the ebrakewindings. I have some further info, I dismantled the ebrake, took the windings out, there is a layer of fibreglass resin on top of the windings holds them in place, had to chip out with screwdriver and hammer the resin, then removed windings.
There was an extremely nasty burnt smell in the windings, so they had got really hot.
I assume over time the windings rub against each other each time applied and slowly wear off the enamel coating, shorts start to occur and heating of windings.
Anyhow watched a few videos on rewinding coils, doesn't look too complicated, I ordered some winding wire off aliexpress ( o.3mm is the size I measured in the coil).
The weight of the wndings I forget but need about 150m of wire, since its so small diamater thats only a small roll of wire.
I will put exactly same weight of copper as came out and hope that gives correct number of winds, it should be pretty close. The fibreglass resin doesn't infuse into the windings just sits on top of them, so weight should be quite correct.@@claydo364
Thats fine
tehnically its called expoxy resin, but fibreglass resin I just use it as general term
Yes I suggest you get a second hand scooter and fix it with your wisdom@@claydo364
puede un freno electrónico de una silla eléctrica funcional en un scooter electrónico de tres ruedas gogo
Would it take 36v?
Mr Green most electric brakes that are used in mobility scooters use 24volts. I can recall around 20 years ago some used 12volts. But it’s was rare. Some scooters may have a system that it’s motor is 36 or 48 and they would have a special electric brakes or just fit a lower rated brake and get the controller only to supply a certain voltage as per spec.
@@tomjacques4 Thanks for the reply!, Im asking beause im planning to take an old scooter i have with a dying motor, and overvolt it for some fun on the mud!
Its a shoprider sovereign mobility scooter its all 24v
im planning to install an extra battery and connect it and the motor (24v 450w) to an ebike 36v 700w controller and throttle,
the scooter has no manual brakes/levers so my idea is to supply constant voltage to the brake and make it disengage on a momentary switch for skids!
Can i ask you a question
If the above does not work, do you know if the brushes on the motor brushes will slow down the scooter like it normally would with the brake wired up but not physically connected to the motor?
Mr Green I’ve never tried this but using higher voltage will eventually lead to product failure. Will work for some time mind you to have some fun
Mr Green you may find the if you use a brushless motor the speed may not increase if you add more voltage it will all depend on the motor that is fitted.
If both leads are black how do you know which ones to connect?
Usually means that it doesn't matter, with an electromagent, there is no real correct polarity, just connect them up to something that can take some decent current draw with some decent wires.
I have a scooter with a 3 wire micro switch, goes into a 4 wire plug, I’m trying to eliminate the brake all together. Any input on how to bypass? Seems to be 24v comes in to the brake and the micro switch, but not sure how to bypass and make it work. Any help?
Jonathan Denham hi there what’s the name and model. Why do you want to bypass it . It’s there for a reason. Does the scooter drive ? What the error code?
It’s a rascal 600 I believe. The motor looks to have been under salt water and is locked up. I am attempting to just use the control system to run a different motor in a different application. Basically I need a motor speed controller to run a power wheels style motor/gear box. I ordered a 47 ohm resistor to put in place of the electric brake so that the controller still sees a load. The 3 wires on the micro switch is what’s throwing me for a loop. Unsure of how to get fault codes, doesn’t have an LED and it’s not digital, just has a key switch with seat lift/off/on, a horn and a battery charge level indicator
I need one nno much care
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How can I find a new item ?
Hi what item are you after
Can i repair the electric brake or replace?
Hi replacement only. Let us know make and model and I will let you know the cost please send details to tomjacques@btinternet.com
Do you have automatic brake for a shoprider traveso cabin car scooter. Can you give me price thanks
John Shanks hi John sorry for the long delay. There are 2 types send me a picture to tomjacques@btinternet.com PS one type is out of stock.
@@tomjacques4 it's OK tested brake on 24volt 100%. Problem is with the motor fitted new brushes last month but someone told me the shaft should of been cleaned before installing brushes with a carbon fibre pen?
John Shanks as long as the commutator is copper colour the its ok. If it’s black and dirty then should be cleaned.
@@tomjacques4 thanks for reply yes it's quite black also I took the motor apart today the amount of loose carbon in it was unreal I don't have a air gun is there any other way this can be cleaned also when removing top part of motor the bearing came out with it and I found like a off set washer just by chance would this be the spring you said in the video does it just sit behind bearing then thank you for replying
John Shanks hi yes the spring type washers sit between aluminium moulding and bearing. It’s ok the bearing comes out with me as well. You can purchase a can of air to clean your keyboard. Or blow into a small pipe / straw and point it to the area until you faint. Lol
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Great Vid! Thank you ... Just to state ... I am sick of these companies thinking that EVERYONE who needs a mobility aid is old and feeble ... ooo lets go 15 km and brake on hills so you are stopped in the middle of an intersection .... you could get killed with these stupid auto brakes ... drives me nuts
Does anyone know of a mobility scooter that has hand brakes and can go 25 to 30 km?
on my gogo scooter the microswitch checked out OK. but the scooter will still not drive and is still giving the error code 5 (5 beeps).
could the problem be in the electric break instead?
any thoughts would be greatly appreciated
thank you
Could be or the wiring check all connections
If both leads are black how do I
Know which ones to connect?
Roger Tyler I presume you are asking about the leads going to the electric brake. If that’s the case then it does not matter