@@ChaseDanielShow I echo these sentiments. Thank you for sharing. I would like to see Wilson's tape breakdown against Green Bay, as I feel he did NOT look good there.
@@Will-qd2km well you should expect the #2 overall pick to play well with a great team and great coaching. Wilson has been the issue it's not the jets.
@@MVPURDYSZN Just saying rookies in general dont really handle the NY stage too well. I dont think the Jets are bad, total opposite actually. Jets have had a few high draft pick rookies that have not turned out too well in recent years.
@@Toracubed1 it would actually be a higher level of competition if he played against a good college defense than playing against the practice squad in a pre season game 🤣🤣. You know that pre season games aren't real right? You know that horrible qbs put up great numbers in pre season games literally every week right?
@@AdamB34 I don't think you know what the practice squad is. Why didn't Stidham put up great numbers playing against practice squad guys then? I guess with your narrative, he is worse than horrible.
Anyone who thinks a scrub qb is good because they played well in a pre season game doesn't know football. Guys you've never heard of and will never play a snap in a real game look like Mahomes in pre season games
Where was Zach Wilson? I'll tell you tell you where he was, being sacked. Because he never had more than one second to throw. The offensive line did a good job protecting him and he had time to throw the ball. The jets never provided that opportunity rarely did he have more than a second to get rid of the ball. Unfortunately he was a scaped goat for the Jets failure. Extremely talented. The Denver Broncos were very smart
@@AdamB34 Zach was the only NFL QB last season who was pressured on more than 30% of his drop backs. But even with that, he was 11th in the NFL in on-target percentage, and around 15th in bad throw percentage. In his last game, in which he was injured, he was pressured on something like 78% of his drop backs and sacked 4 times before being injured. In his second to last game, he threw for 300+ yards, beat a playoff team, and was named AFC Offensive Player of the Week. None of these facts are false.
@@BalakeB did i say the Jets are good at developing qbs or did I say the narrative that ZW "never had more than 1 second to throw" was a completely made up story? Think real hard before you respond
@@RonFunkSoCal 🤣🤣🤣... I can tell you don't watch games and just regurgitate stats. His On Target% and Bad Pass% were a byproduct of them not asking him to do anything but throw quick slants and check downs to Breece Hall. Go look at how far those metrics drop when he had to throw it more than 5 air yards. You also cherrypicked ONE game out of his entire 3 year, 30+ start career and pretended that one game is who he really is and the other 30+ games were all a mirage 🤣🤣. I feel so bad for people who are clueless but don't know they are clueless.
I'm a Jet fan and Zach was set up for failure with the Jets. He was never given the coaching, offensive weapons, and O-Line protection he needed. He was basically just given the ball, told "good luck", and thrown to the wolves. I'm glad to see he is growing under Sean Payton, I truly believe he will blossom into a monster.
Nix is the starter here in Denver, though I'd like to keep Zach Wilson around. He served as a quality backup and outperformed our expectations -- Jarrett Stidham's roster spot is probably in jeopardy. Could see him traded by the end of today
Breece Hall is top 5-10 rb, Garrett Wilson is a top 10-15 wr, the defense is top 5-10 and he was coached by the same guy who coached Jordan Love and was hand picked by Aaron Rodgers. He was on a really good team lol. Stop lying
I followed Zach through the jets period. My the difference is staggering. True its pre season but its night/day, although he did have some very good games in NY.
@@AdamB34 Bro really on every single comment here hating. '2 great weapons and no offensive line, wow such a prime situation!' Playcalling that had him doing things like leading the league in pass attempts in 20 degree weather and 45mph winds lmao. Like, maybe your arguments would hold water if the Jets hadn't drafted/started a new QB every 2-3 years over the past 2 decades, but 5 decades of sucking says the problem is organizational.
The back didn't get his head around as fast as he should've on the play on the 5 yrd line. Zach was being overly cautious on that play. Understandable considering his history
He was able to be on his feet instead of his back. Payton teaches QBs, knows how. The Jets in 3 seasons had no coach, no line, and not many reliable weapons.
@@AdamB34Yeah because getting Aaron Rodgers hurt in his first game with the Jets because he had 0 protection didn't show how terrible the Jets O line was. Wilson and Rodgers had on average less than 3 seconds to get rid of the ball. That is why Rodgers got hurt and Wilson played mostly from his back. This doesn't mean Wilson is the best QB in history, but saying it was his fault at the jets is just funny
Once again, the Jets fans are doing the impatience self inflicted punishment dance. Enjoy watching the blossoming of Zach Wilson for a team that has no Jets logo.
There was absolutely no plan in place with the Jets. Not to mention the Oline was god awful and it’s the same reason Rodgers lasted about 3 plays into the season. With an offensive coach I bet he can be a viable starter
@@nathangothan601you're blaming the oline because Aaron Rodgers had a fluke injury after literally one tackle?? His foot got caught in the ground and he twisted it and his achilles popped. How can you blame the oline for a guy getting hurt on the very first soft tackle of the season? That's ridiculous
@@AdamB34 that Oline is fucking dog 💩 that’s why lol. Doesn’t matter if Brady is under center - a bad Oline will kill your quarterback. It’s the most important part of the offense to the quarterback because if you don’t have time in the pocket nothing else matters, you won’t get a pass off.
Having watched and studied his game since HS and BYU, I've noticed a pattern. At every stage of his career he struggles at first. I've seen this all the way back to his Boise State days (he joined BSU before flipping to BYU). But with time, he learns then dominates with his God given arm talent. I would actually be shocked if he didn't find the right opportunity at QB1. He's still young but has a lot of grit and game experience after the disaster in NY. I hope he finally sits, watches and learns this season under Payton, Lombardi, Mills & Co. Props on your new gig. Great interview with SP💪 How would you rate his arm talent Chase?
Zach is playing with a lot of confidence, no doubt. But let's give credit to the offensive line. They were solid, giving him time to go through the progression too. With the Jets, he was constantly under duress.
The Jets never had a decent & consistent o line. Not only couldn't they pass block, but they stunk at run blocking while Zach was there. Just awful. I played right guard & tight end in high school -- doesn't make me a football genius, but I watch the line more than most people do.... Also, my teenage daughter is a big Jets fan and I watch all of their games with her. That's the context of my comment. Is Zach amazing? No. But the o line was worse than he was in NY. That's really bad.
I’ve seen the top QBs make bad throws in games and recover quite frequently. So this is nothing new. I’ve been arguing with Jets fans and radio hosts who kept exclusively blaming Zach Wilson for everything wrong with the Jets. To me, it was blatantly obvious that the Jets failed him and were clueless about developing him properly.
@@TheHighlanderprimeand it's a 100% guarantee you LOST all those arguments but still walked away telling yourself you won 😂😂😂. It's funny because you're exclusively blaming EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE but ZW yet you truly think you're being objective
@@AdamB34 Foolish and trollish reply. You’re the only one laughing immaturely with these emojis. When a raw QB goes to a team, the team is responsible for finding the proper way to bring him along. The bad organizations fail such young QB every time. Such was the Jets. Lazy casual fans with zero football acumen like yourself always go for the low hanging fruit by blaming the student for his teachers' failures every time. Of course Zach Wilson played badly because he wasn’t ready to be thrown into the fire and play according to the Jets’ urgency to win now specially with a bad O-line all 3 seasons, a bad and clueless head coach with a terrible OC. And yet they expected Zach Wilson to play like he was ready and had zero impediment. You’re the loser fool in this argument. Your comment came across like it written by a 14 year old.
@AdamB34 brees was average before NO. Payton made Winston go 5-2, made Bridgewater go 6-0 or something and Taysom Hill 7-2 as starters. Simean went like 0-6. There was no helping that guy. 😀
@@PoboyMusic Brees was literally a Pro Bowler before he played for Sean Payton. Jameis Winston, Teddy B and Taysom were never good but if you want to be technical about it Teddy B was also a pro bowler before he played for Sean Payton
@@PoboyMusic you know you're desperate to pretend you have a point when you're trying to convince people Jameis Winston, Taysom Hill and Teddy B are good 🤣🤣
It's nice to see an actual QB that played at the NFL level doing breakdowns of QB play because it seems like you're authentic about it. The this played sucks vs quarters had me cracking up.
He was with the Jets. You can tell, from his postgame, that while he is definitely supportive of and happy for Nix, he's envious of the situation Nix has been put in. Zach was destined to fail with the New York Browns. I truly hope this rehab pays off for him. He's a talent that the league deserves to see in a good place. (Also, enjoyed the cameo on Schlereth and Evans, sir!)
Jets fan here. Yes I honestly believe that him or The Darnold could have been franchise QBs. 2021 we actually had a good OC. But besides that nothing has gone in his favor.
There was a time not too long ago you could've said that about Texans qbs, Bengals qbs, Bills qbs, Dolphins qbs, Browns qbs, Jags qbs etc... it's amazing how quickly a franchise can turn around when they don't draft scrubs like Mark Sanchez, Geno Smith, Sam Darnold or Zach Wilson 😂😂😂
@@tylerd1297 Gase had a winning record with Ryan Tannehill in Miami and even got an ok yr out of a 35 yr old Jay Cutler. Sam Darnold had BY FAR his best season with Adam Gase. You're clearly a casual
Great analysis as always, Chase. Zach had a great game and can play well if behind a good offensive line. I can see the Broncos holding onto Zach and Stidham and trading one when another team’s QB gets injured. That team can have either one for the right price and will give up more than they should because they will be desperate.
Just recently stumbled across your channel, I enjoy your analysis and look forward to more through the season. Zach looked pretty good. We don't know when he'll play again in a game, but if he's our #2, I'm glad he had a game like this to build his confidence. He may sit on the bench for quite a while (we hope so anyway, that means Nix is playing well and staying healthy). I guess we'll know pretty soon how it's going to play out, but it wouldn't surprise me if he beat out Stidham.
@@AdamB34 You’re commenting countless times arguing with people about a guy. It’s been weeks bro..Maybe get a life? Are you saying statements acting like it’s opposite day? Or did he bang your mom or something?🤣No other QB was as efficient dealing with 45%+ pressure rate under 2.5 seconds. It’s literally a statistical fact. Every other QB finished with a negative td/int ratio and sub 60 completion percentage except 1. It’s literally a statistical fact. What happened when Mahomes, Allen, Hurts, Stroud, Herbert faced that pressure rate percentage when they faced the jets? They had their worst games of the season. Now imagine they have to deal with 60%+ for 17 games instead of that one game where they put up career worst numbers. It’s been months bro I’ve seen you on countless zach wilson videos. Maybe find something to do instead of being obsessed with one man?
@@AdamB34 When Mahomes, Stroud, Allen, Hurts dealt with a similar pressure rate under 2.5 sec he looked much worse. No other QB was as efficient dealing with 50+% pressure rate under 2.5 seconds. Literally a statistical fact. You’ve been commenting on Zach Wilson videos for months. Are you okay? Did he do something with your mom? If nothings wrong then maybe get a job instead of spending all day sounding like it’s opposite day spending hours commenting on Zach Wilson videos😂
@@adambarran that is not a statistical fact 🤣. I just looked it up and PFF graded the top 10 qbs with under 2.5 seconds to throw and this is the list... 1. Tua- 87.4 grade Goff- 84.2 Dak- 83.8 Lawrence- 83.3 Love- 80.6 Allen- 79.9 Hurts- 79.7 Browning- 79.0 Mayfield- 78.4 10. Russel Wilson- 78.1 Lying and making personal attacks towards me is 100% proof you're just a typical ZW fan boy who literally thinks his entire horrible career is 100% because of the oline and has nothing to do with Wilson actually being terrible.
@@AdamB34 Pressure rate percentage under 2.5 seconds and pff grade while throwing under 2.5 seconds are 2 completely different things😂😂 jesus christ. I spoke facts about you spending hours commenting on zach wilson videos. Speaking facts about scapegoated qbs is better than spending literal hours commenting and hating on a qb. If you think he was really that bad you don’t need to spend so much effort trying to convince people. They point out simple statistical facts and you get butthurt. This man really posted pff grades. You just killed any credibility you had, if you watch film you understand that Russell Wilson is not that proficient at throwing the ball under 2.5 seconds but you confidently quote pff grades.
People and players alike just don't understand how important the 'system' is. If the system sucks, so do many other things with an offense and the QB is the mantlepiece. Brock Osweiler took $2 million dollars more a year passing up $72 million with Kubiak's Broncos and went to Houston to make a concrete swan dive because things didn't 'connect'. It's all about the system. That's why Payton wanted good ownership in the first place. Sean Payton is putting on a clinic.
Delusional ZW fans and football casuals alike don't understand how many horrible qbs who won't even make an nfl roster look SPECTACULAR in pre season games ESPECIALLY the last pre season game when nobody plays starters at all and nobody cares about the outcome. They just wanna get through the last fake game without any injuries and get to the real games
Common denominator with all these plays? Adequate Pass Protection. I've been behind Zach these last couple of yrs and of course have taken a lot of heat. Never said he was a superstar or even an nfl starter - but felt he makes a good backup QB. Most fans don't pay attention to Oline depth or Oline injs as it doesnt play directly into stats for Fantasy Football, but the Jets real disaster during the Saleh era so far has not been Rodgers injury or rbs injs or the old bland wrs (except wilson), but actually all about the OLine injs and lack of depth. I said to my NYC buddy and huge Jets fan last summer - the Jets can make the playoffs even with an injury to Rodgers (this was before Rodgers actually got injured) as long as the Oline stayed healthy. The Jets had depth everywhere else (I thought that at the time - but the WRs were more of a problem than I realized). Every yr they have a ton of OLine injs and never addressed the depth on the Oline. Sure enough, they started having injs at OLine. After the injury to Rodgers I still thought they could make the playoffs - by October it was over - the Oline had a lot of injuries and Zach had no chance. Behind this beat up line even Rodgers would have struggled to some degree. When Zach did have a ny second - he would flash - like the KS game in the 2nd Half where he almost led the comeback. Don't think Zach will ever be a great NFL QB - but definitely still has a shot as a top Backup who plays some big games and can really help a team win.
I don’t agree with the conclusion that he’d never be great nfl QB and would only be a good backup because his raw talent is NFL starter material. But I agree with you that the Jets might have ruined him because they not only had bad O-line throughout, but they failed to develop Zach properly. He really needed to sit and learn for a few seasons just like Jordan Love. Where a QB goes often define their fate. A rookie QB aught to never chance it by going to the Jets. And I root for the team.
Delusional ZW fans like yourself will never in your life stop mentioning that one time ZW played a good game vs KC 😂😂😂. You've all decided the other 30+ games he was AWFUL in simply do not count
@@TheHighlanderprimehow many more years are you going to talk about his "raw talent" and ignore his historical awfulness? Bro... be couldn't even be a below average qb on a team with a top 5-10 rb, top 10-15 wr and an elite defense. He literally couldn't even play his way into being a top 25 qb with all that lol. Stop it already
I think a lot of it comes down to mindset. His first year in New York, he was "the guy," with the entire weight of the team on his back. You could see quite a few bad plays where he was clearly trying to force something to happen or to save the play on his own. Now he has a fresh start and he's not a start or "the future of the team." He has a chance to really develop as an all-around QB (including leadership and mindset).
How many backups have been through the ringer with 30 something starts, have this kind of athletic ability, proven teachability, and still just 25 years old. Why not have a young guy who’s a seasoned vet, still improving and has real play making ability. NO BRAINER.
I can understand why Sean Payton is high on him. You can really see his arm talent shine in some of these throws. Excited to see what he can become under SP.
Loved his play out of college - has an arm, he’s twitchy fast but when you’re coached by incompetent leadership, you get incompetent result. Kid will be a gem and a solid trade piece, cheap stud for someone in two years.
It depends how well he'll read the field when he has a decent OL, coaching and decent receivers - vs starters and in regular season play. 'Remains to be seen.
On the TD to Johnson the CB had no idea where the ball was or that it was thrown his way. He thought Stidham was playing QB and couldn't drive the ball that far.
That big run Zach made, the Jets coaches were literally telling him to stay in the collapsing pockets. So, the Jets would end up with 3rd and 34 instead of 1st and 10 on the strength of Zach's legs.
Maybe Zach wasn't the problem in NY. Maybe he was just a piece of a much larger puzzle in NY. He played behind a horrific OL. The play calling was atrocious. His first OC didn't seem to know how to coach him. Then Hackett comes in after an absolute nose dive in Denver with Aaron Rodgers riding in on his white stallion to save everything. Rodgers lasts 4 plays and Zach is thrown out there with the same terrible OL and even worse coaching. The poor kid never had a chance. Now, he is with a coach who will coach him, the playcalling is significantly better, the pressure is off of him, he has a pocket, and he looks like he should be the #2 and could start day one if they need him to. What a difference a change in environment and coaching can make.
I know the last pass the announcer said the safety should of hit the WR, but I think if he did, he would of drew a PI, because the Receiver had not even touch the ball. I think the Safety didn't know where the ball was, and he was just trying to jump Infront of the receiver to block the veiw, not knowing the ball was kind of thrown short and inside. Because if you look at the safety he was had his hand waved around where the receiver was bracing to catch the ball, only issue.... the ball was behind the Safety back.
This is why I am a firm believer in defensive minded coaches letting the offensive guys on his coaching staff pick the QB’s for their franchise cuz defensive minded HC’s always put project QB’s in bad situations. Payton is actually probably the best coach in the league to fix Wilson’s problems and help him develop to a point where he can now go anywhere and produce even as a backup.
@fman4234 yea im sorry that hurts your feelings fman. When you watch payton for years you understand what he wants in a qb. I get it you learn everything from espn
@@fman4234 obviously Payton thought Nix "was the man" considering he drafted him 12th overall then had him running with the starters immediately. As usual you're incredibly confused
@@AdamB34 I think yer right, Adam, later, I learned that Payton did indeed want Nix in light of his misdirection in wanting Pennox. Would you agree? Am I still "incredibly confused?" : )
Like who? He's literally never developed a good qb in his entire nfl head coaching career. Brees was already a pro bowler before Payton ever coached him
He was really good, just a bit slow releasing imo, but also the protection wasn't as good as it should have been. Think this is why they decided to go with 3 QB's? ... Think that's what I heard we were gonna do.
What do you mean, where was this Zach Wilson? After the last game Zach started he was named the AFC Offensive Player of the Week. That was with the Jets.
The Jets O-line made an open door look like a brick wall. He could rarely even hit his back foot on a 3 step drop before he was getting hit. Yet as is the norm in New York, no matter what the REAL issue, blame the failures on the QB.
That second play was the only middle read throw russ wilson made 15+ yards all of last season season and it was that exact play haha to that exact route
Zach Wilson looked good during pre-season last year as well, fans had hope the he was learning to play better while under Rodgers. But ya, it's pre-season.
I mean… no he didn’t really lol his best game was TB and he didn’t go through his reads nearly as fluidly and throw a lot of short passes. He looked better but this by far better imo.
Yall talk about box nix doing short throws but throwing quick passes then complain about Zach holding the ball...you have to hold it longer to give your receiver time to run down the field for long passes...damn if you do, damn if you don't lol
There's a difference between needing to hold it for 0.3 extra seconds to let a play develop and holding it so long that the window closes and you take a sack 😂😂😂😂. No group of fans are more casual than ZW fans
Zach has always had this. But surrounded by a Jets organization and bad talent mix he could never show it. Got blamed for the failures of the team that still thinks they have Namath somewhere on the field with his era offense.
Chase, just curious, it seemed to me that Barber was overly critical of Wilson. To a certain degree I understand, as he has watched him pretty closely during Wilsons 3 years in NY. However, overall, I wasn't certain he would ever do will in NY, from coaching to surrounding players, including his O line. I see Denver as a much better fit, I would not be surprised to see him QB2 before long.
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The real question is not , where was this Zack Wilson. It is, where was the Jets offensive line and where was the offensive coordinator?
He was always there, just was playing on the jets 😂
Bro you break down plays so well I feel like I could read NFL defenses..great work as usual
Appreciate that
@@ChaseDanielShow I echo these sentiments. Thank you for sharing. I would like to see Wilson's tape breakdown against Green Bay, as I feel he did NOT look good there.
@@jproog41shhhhh... we're only allowed to talk about this fake game, the Texans game and the KC game. Everything else never happened 🤷🤣🤣
If ZW actually becomes a good QB, I will take it as universal truth that the Jets and QBs are oil and water.
Give him good coaching and he can actually play! The Jets were a bad situation for him for many reasons. Love to see it
"The Jets were a bad situation for..."
Yes.
My thoughts too, maybe its the NY market but seems they handle rookies bad and put too high of expectations.
Bad situation? The jets have a great coaching staff great talent the team wasn't the issue.
@@Will-qd2km well you should expect the #2 overall pick to play well with a great team and great coaching. Wilson has been the issue it's not the jets.
@@MVPURDYSZN Just saying rookies in general dont really handle the NY stage too well. I dont think the Jets are bad, total opposite actually. Jets have had a few high draft pick rookies that have not turned out too well in recent years.
the ny jests are notorious QB destroyers, especially rookies
Lol
Like the broncos
Lets revisit when the lights come on..🤣
Broncos should hire coach kotite to mentor Zach Wilson.
@@silkscreenart5515 jests fans have seen some of the worst coaching in league history, with gase being #1. i truly think he is the worst coach ever
My eyes tell me that ZW's eyes are improving tenfold. You can't deny he has a strong arm and improvisational skills that Stidham just doesn't have.
You're eyes tell you that he played against practice squad guys in a fake game that doesn't count. That's it
@@AdamB34 Stick to college ball. The NFL is too advanced for you.
@@Toracubed1 it would actually be a higher level of competition if he played against a good college defense than playing against the practice squad in a pre season game 🤣🤣. You know that pre season games aren't real right? You know that horrible qbs put up great numbers in pre season games literally every week right?
@@AdamB34 I don't think you know what the practice squad is. Why didn't Stidham put up great numbers playing against practice squad guys then? I guess with your narrative, he is worse than horrible.
Stidham sucks. Wilson sucks. Are you really going to die on the Zach Wilson hill based on final preseason game film? Wow...
Kid is getting it. Happy for him.
Short compact release with a rocket arm and able to manipulate db's with his eyes has Aaron Rogers fingerprint all over him. He could be a star
😂
Jets fans will say you don't know football. But they're literally Jets fans, and being a Jets fan in general requires a lack of football knowledge.
Anyone who thinks a scrub qb is good because they played well in a pre season game doesn't know football. Guys you've never heard of and will never play a snap in a real game look like Mahomes in pre season games
So what's it like knowing your team is the new Lions now that the Lions don't suck anymore?
@@uriyahndoesstuff9982 who me? "My team" is the Packers so idk what it's like for "my team" to be terrible. They haven't been terrible since the 80s
@@AdamB34 A Packers fan with Zach derangement syndrome? I don't buy it....
@@uriyahndoesstuff9982 do you think making up a fake term that has no meaning will magically make ZW a good qb?
Look, an O-line that blocks for him.
Where was Zach Wilson? I'll tell you tell you where he was, being sacked. Because he never had more than one second to throw. The offensive line did a good job protecting him and he had time to throw the ball. The jets never provided that opportunity rarely did he have more than a second to get rid of the ball. Unfortunately he was a scaped goat for the Jets failure. Extremely talented. The Denver Broncos were very smart
That's a fun 100% made up story. I mean it's false, but still fun 👍
@@AdamB34 Uhh I guess you don't watch the jets, They haven't developed a qb since joe namath. Their OL last year was bottom 3 🤣
@@AdamB34 Zach was the only NFL QB last season who was pressured on more than 30% of his drop backs. But even with that, he was 11th in the NFL in on-target percentage, and around 15th in bad throw percentage. In his last game, in which he was injured, he was pressured on something like 78% of his drop backs and sacked 4 times before being injured. In his second to last game, he threw for 300+ yards, beat a playoff team, and was named AFC Offensive Player of the Week. None of these facts are false.
@@BalakeB did i say the Jets are good at developing qbs or did I say the narrative that ZW "never had more than 1 second to throw" was a completely made up story? Think real hard before you respond
@@RonFunkSoCal 🤣🤣🤣... I can tell you don't watch games and just regurgitate stats. His On Target% and Bad Pass% were a byproduct of them not asking him to do anything but throw quick slants and check downs to Breece Hall. Go look at how far those metrics drop when he had to throw it more than 5 air yards. You also cherrypicked ONE game out of his entire 3 year, 30+ start career and pretended that one game is who he really is and the other 30+ games were all a mirage 🤣🤣. I feel so bad for people who are clueless but don't know they are clueless.
I'm a Jet fan and Zach was set up for failure with the Jets. He was never given the coaching, offensive weapons, and O-Line protection he needed. He was basically just given the ball, told "good luck", and thrown to the wolves. I'm glad to see he is growing under Sean Payton, I truly believe he will blossom into a monster.
Nix is the starter here in Denver, though I'd like to keep Zach Wilson around. He served as a quality backup and outperformed our expectations -- Jarrett Stidham's roster spot is probably in jeopardy. Could see him traded by the end of today
Breece Hall is top 5-10 rb, Garrett Wilson is a top 10-15 wr, the defense is top 5-10 and he was coached by the same guy who coached Jordan Love and was hand picked by Aaron Rodgers. He was on a really good team lol. Stop lying
I followed Zach through the jets period. My the difference is staggering. True its pre season but its night/day, although he did have some very good games in NY.
@@AdamB34 So you are defending Hackett to Broncos fans... Ok. Good luck with that.
@@AdamB34 Bro really on every single comment here hating. '2 great weapons and no offensive line, wow such a prime situation!' Playcalling that had him doing things like leading the league in pass attempts in 20 degree weather and 45mph winds lmao. Like, maybe your arguments would hold water if the Jets hadn't drafted/started a new QB every 2-3 years over the past 2 decades, but 5 decades of sucking says the problem is organizational.
The back didn't get his head around as fast as he should've on the play on the 5 yrd line. Zach was being overly cautious on that play. Understandable considering his history
He was able to be on his feet instead of his back. Payton teaches QBs, knows how. The Jets in 3 seasons had no coach, no line, and not many reliable weapons.
More like "he was able to torch 4th stringers and guys who will be working construction jobs next week" 😂😂😂
@@AdamB34 He was also playing with 4th and 5th stringers on offense, so an even match.
Zach Wilson as your hill to die on is craaaaaazy. 😂
@@stablsed309 no. Just know football, since I played it, and what happens with good and bad coaching.
@@AdamB34Yeah because getting Aaron Rodgers hurt in his first game with the Jets because he had 0 protection didn't show how terrible the Jets O line was. Wilson and Rodgers had on average less than 3 seconds to get rid of the ball. That is why Rodgers got hurt and Wilson played mostly from his back. This doesn't mean Wilson is the best QB in history, but saying it was his fault at the jets is just funny
Once again, the Jets fans are doing the impatience self inflicted punishment dance. Enjoy watching the blossoming of Zach Wilson for a team that has no Jets logo.
Looks like Wilson is a classic play-action QB and not whatever they wanted him to do in NY.
There was absolutely no plan in place with the Jets. Not to mention the Oline was god awful and it’s the same reason Rodgers lasted about 3 plays into the season.
With an offensive coach I bet he can be a viable starter
@@nathangothan601you're blaming the oline because Aaron Rodgers had a fluke injury after literally one tackle?? His foot got caught in the ground and he twisted it and his achilles popped. How can you blame the oline for a guy getting hurt on the very first soft tackle of the season? That's ridiculous
@@AdamB34 that Oline is fucking dog 💩 that’s why lol. Doesn’t matter if Brady is under center - a bad Oline will kill your quarterback. It’s the most important part of the offense to the quarterback because if you don’t have time in the pocket nothing else matters, you won’t get a pass off.
Zach was a victim of the NY Jets and their lack of good offensive coaching / development.
Will Zach Wilson ever become a starting QB again?
No, this is the NFL equivalent of a stopped clock that is correct twice a day. It is still stopped.
Having watched and studied his game since HS and BYU, I've noticed a pattern.
At every stage of his career he struggles at first. I've seen this all the way back to his Boise State days (he joined BSU before flipping to BYU). But with time, he learns then dominates with his God given arm talent.
I would actually be shocked if he didn't find the right opportunity at QB1. He's still young but has a lot of grit and game experience after the disaster in NY.
I hope he finally sits, watches and learns this season under Payton, Lombardi, Mills & Co.
Props on your new gig. Great interview with SP💪
How would you rate his arm talent Chase?
If he does, I hope the Broncos get a 3rd or 4th for him...minimum. :D
No. Way too slow in decision making and getting rid of the ball.
Maybe not a “starting” QB, but he will get a shot at some point
Been waiting for a Zach Wilson breakdown!
Fantastic breakdown. I look forward to the next one
Zach is playing with a lot of confidence, no doubt. But let's give credit to the offensive line. They were solid, giving him time to go through the progression too. With the Jets, he was constantly under duress.
The Jets never had a decent & consistent o line. Not only couldn't they pass block, but they stunk at run blocking while Zach was there. Just awful. I played right guard & tight end in high school -- doesn't make me a football genius, but I watch the line more than most people do.... Also, my teenage daughter is a big Jets fan and I watch all of their games with her. That's the context of my comment. Is Zach amazing? No. But the o line was worse than he was in NY. That's really bad.
Greetings from Missouri.
Go Broncos!!!
Very nice analysis. Zach had two bone-head pass plays at the beginning and then settled down and played a very good game.
I’ve seen the top QBs make bad throws in games and recover quite frequently. So this is nothing new. I’ve been arguing with Jets fans and radio hosts who kept exclusively blaming Zach Wilson for everything wrong with the Jets. To me, it was blatantly obvious that the Jets failed him and were clueless about developing him properly.
@@TheHighlanderprimeand it's a 100% guarantee you LOST all those arguments but still walked away telling yourself you won 😂😂😂. It's funny because you're exclusively blaming EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE but ZW yet you truly think you're being objective
@@AdamB34 Foolish and trollish reply. You’re the only one laughing immaturely with these emojis.
When a raw QB goes to a team, the team is responsible for finding the proper way to bring him along. The bad organizations fail such young QB every time. Such was the Jets. Lazy casual fans with zero football acumen like yourself always go for the low hanging fruit by blaming the student for his teachers' failures every time.
Of course Zach Wilson played badly because he wasn’t ready to be thrown into the fire and play according to the Jets’ urgency to win now specially with a bad O-line all 3 seasons, a bad and clueless head coach with a terrible OC. And yet they expected Zach Wilson to play like he was ready and had zero impediment.
You’re the loser fool in this argument. Your comment came across like it written by a 14 year old.
Best QB/Play breakdown analysis I've seen. Great job Chase!!
I think he has one of the most superior arms in the league. Funny how going to the right organization can make you.
The offense just looks smoother with Bo and Zack at QB.
Sean payton and his staff know how to develop and its showing.
Agreed!
Love your content Chase, always so insightful.
THE SEAN PAYTON EFFECT
He's literally never developed a good qb as a head coach lol. Brees was already a pro bowler before Payton coached him.
@AdamB34 brees was average before NO. Payton made Winston go 5-2, made Bridgewater go 6-0 or something and Taysom Hill 7-2 as starters. Simean went like 0-6. There was no helping that guy. 😀
@@PoboyMusic Brees was literally a Pro Bowler before he played for Sean Payton. Jameis Winston, Teddy B and Taysom were never good but if you want to be technical about it Teddy B was also a pro bowler before he played for Sean Payton
@@PoboyMusic you know you're desperate to pretend you have a point when you're trying to convince people Jameis Winston, Taysom Hill and Teddy B are good 🤣🤣
@AdamB34 no the point is that they aren't good but sean payton made them win.
It's nice to see an actual QB that played at the NFL level doing breakdowns of QB play because it seems like you're authentic about it. The this played sucks vs quarters had me cracking up.
He was with the Jets. You can tell, from his postgame, that while he is definitely supportive of and happy for Nix, he's envious of the situation Nix has been put in.
Zach was destined to fail with the New York Browns. I truly hope this rehab pays off for him. He's a talent that the league deserves to see in a good place.
(Also, enjoyed the cameo on Schlereth and Evans, sir!)
Jets fan here. Yes I honestly believe that him or The Darnold could have been franchise QBs. 2021 we actually had a good OC. But besides that nothing has gone in his favor.
There was a time not too long ago you could've said that about Texans qbs, Bengals qbs, Bills qbs, Dolphins qbs, Browns qbs, Jags qbs etc... it's amazing how quickly a franchise can turn around when they don't draft scrubs like Mark Sanchez, Geno Smith, Sam Darnold or Zach Wilson 😂😂😂
@@tylerd1297how many more teams does Darnold have to fail on before you let go of the fantasy that he's actually good?
@@AdamB34 Adam gase was the worst coach Ive seen in my lifetime. Enough to ruin anyone
@@tylerd1297 Gase had a winning record with Ryan Tannehill in Miami and even got an ok yr out of a 35 yr old Jay Cutler. Sam Darnold had BY FAR his best season with Adam Gase. You're clearly a casual
Great analysis as always, Chase. Zach had a great game and can play well if behind a good offensive line.
I can see the Broncos holding onto Zach and Stidham and trading one when another team’s QB gets injured. That team can have either one for the right price and will give up more than they should because they will be desperate.
No he can play well if playing vs guys who will be selling cars next week 😂😂😂
Just recently stumbled across your channel, I enjoy your analysis and look forward to more through the season. Zach looked pretty good. We don't know when he'll play again in a game, but if he's our #2, I'm glad he had a game like this to build his confidence. He may sit on the bench for quite a while (we hope so anyway, that means Nix is playing well and staying healthy). I guess we'll know pretty soon how it's going to play out, but it wouldn't surprise me if he beat out Stidham.
He was the same guy just scapegoated. Played behind 17 different lineman. 9 played 2+ spots on the line.
It's cute you think the difference between being the worst starting qb in the nfl and being good is simply a better oline 😂😂😂
@@AdamB34 You’re commenting countless times arguing with people about a guy. It’s been weeks bro..Maybe get a life? Are you saying statements acting like it’s opposite day? Or did he bang your mom or something?🤣No other QB was as efficient dealing with 45%+ pressure rate under 2.5 seconds. It’s literally a statistical fact. Every other QB finished with a negative td/int ratio and sub 60 completion percentage except 1. It’s literally a statistical fact. What happened when Mahomes, Allen, Hurts, Stroud, Herbert faced that pressure rate percentage when they faced the jets? They had their worst games of the season. Now imagine they have to deal with 60%+ for 17 games instead of that one game where they put up career worst numbers. It’s been months bro I’ve seen you on countless zach wilson videos. Maybe find something to do instead of being obsessed with one man?
@@AdamB34 When Mahomes, Stroud, Allen, Hurts dealt with a similar pressure rate under 2.5 sec he looked much worse. No other QB was as efficient dealing with 50+% pressure rate under 2.5 seconds. Literally a statistical fact. You’ve been commenting on Zach Wilson videos for months. Are you okay? Did he do something with your mom? If nothings wrong then maybe get a job instead of spending all day sounding like it’s opposite day spending hours commenting on Zach Wilson videos😂
@@adambarran that is not a statistical fact 🤣. I just looked it up and PFF graded the top 10 qbs with under 2.5 seconds to throw and this is the list...
1. Tua- 87.4 grade
Goff- 84.2
Dak- 83.8
Lawrence- 83.3
Love- 80.6
Allen- 79.9
Hurts- 79.7
Browning- 79.0
Mayfield- 78.4
10. Russel Wilson- 78.1
Lying and making personal attacks towards me is 100% proof you're just a typical ZW fan boy who literally thinks his entire horrible career is 100% because of the oline and has nothing to do with Wilson actually being terrible.
@@AdamB34 Pressure rate percentage under 2.5 seconds and pff grade while throwing under 2.5 seconds are 2 completely different things😂😂 jesus christ. I spoke facts about you spending hours commenting on zach wilson videos. Speaking facts about scapegoated qbs is better than spending literal hours commenting and hating on a qb. If you think he was really that bad you don’t need to spend so much effort trying to convince people. They point out simple statistical facts and you get butthurt. This man really posted pff grades. You just killed any credibility you had, if you watch film you understand that Russell Wilson is not that proficient at throwing the ball under 2.5 seconds but you confidently quote pff grades.
Go Zach!
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My opinion Wilson won the 2nd QB position, I would feel comfortable knowing he is in the stables if for some ungodly reason Bo needs to be replaced
People and players alike just don't understand how important the 'system' is. If the system sucks, so do many other things with an offense and the QB is the mantlepiece. Brock Osweiler took $2 million dollars more a year passing up $72 million with Kubiak's Broncos and went to Houston to make a concrete swan dive because things didn't 'connect'. It's all about the system. That's why Payton wanted good ownership in the first place. Sean Payton is putting on a clinic.
Delusional ZW fans and football casuals alike don't understand how many horrible qbs who won't even make an nfl roster look SPECTACULAR in pre season games ESPECIALLY the last pre season game when nobody plays starters at all and nobody cares about the outcome. They just wanna get through the last fake game without any injuries and get to the real games
Common denominator with all these plays? Adequate Pass Protection.
I've been behind Zach these last couple of yrs and of course have taken a lot of heat. Never said he was a superstar or even an nfl starter - but felt he makes a good backup QB.
Most fans don't pay attention to Oline depth or Oline injs as it doesnt play directly into stats for Fantasy Football, but the Jets real disaster during the Saleh era so far has not been Rodgers injury or rbs injs or the old bland wrs (except wilson), but actually all about the OLine injs and lack of depth.
I said to my NYC buddy and huge Jets fan last summer - the Jets can make the playoffs even with an injury to Rodgers (this was before Rodgers actually got injured) as long as the Oline stayed healthy. The Jets had depth everywhere else (I thought that at the time - but the WRs were more of a problem than I realized).
Every yr they have a ton of OLine injs and never addressed the depth on the Oline. Sure enough, they started having injs at OLine. After the injury to Rodgers I still thought they could make the playoffs - by October it was over - the Oline had a lot of injuries and Zach had no chance. Behind this beat up line even Rodgers would have struggled to some degree.
When Zach did have a ny second - he would flash - like the KS game in the 2nd Half where he almost led the comeback.
Don't think Zach will ever be a great NFL QB - but definitely still has a shot as a top Backup who plays some big games and can really help a team win.
I don’t agree with the conclusion that he’d never be great nfl QB and would only be a good backup because his raw talent is NFL starter material. But I agree with you that the Jets might have ruined him because they not only had bad O-line throughout, but they failed to develop Zach properly. He really needed to sit and learn for a few seasons just like Jordan Love. Where a QB goes often define their fate. A rookie QB aught to never chance it by going to the Jets. And I root for the team.
Delusional ZW fans like yourself will never in your life stop mentioning that one time ZW played a good game vs KC 😂😂😂. You've all decided the other 30+ games he was AWFUL in simply do not count
@@TheHighlanderprimehow many more years are you going to talk about his "raw talent" and ignore his historical awfulness? Bro... be couldn't even be a below average qb on a team with a top 5-10 rb, top 10-15 wr and an elite defense. He literally couldn't even play his way into being a top 25 qb with all that lol. Stop it already
That comeback throw from the 50 to the 20 was a absolute ROCKET.
I think a lot of it comes down to mindset. His first year in New York, he was "the guy," with the entire weight of the team on his back. You could see quite a few bad plays where he was clearly trying to force something to happen or to save the play on his own. Now he has a fresh start and he's not a start or "the future of the team." He has a chance to really develop as an all-around QB (including leadership and mindset).
How many backups have been through the ringer with 30 something starts, have this kind of athletic ability, proven teachability, and still just 25 years old. Why not have a young guy who’s a seasoned vet, still improving and has real play making ability. NO BRAINER.
How many qbs were historically bad for 3 straight years then lost a qb battle to a project rookie qb in year 4 and then became good qbs?
I can understand why Sean Payton is high on him. You can really see his arm talent shine in some of these throws. Excited to see what he can become under SP.
I swear it feels like I’m the only Zach Wilson believer … tellin yall Zach gon be a problem inna minute ‼️🙌🏾🤷🏾♂️
Yes, for the team he's actually playing for.
Nice breakdown CD, I appreciate how you always get these out super quick! Is there any chance all 3 denver QBs stay?
We will see but prob not
Loved his play out of college - has an arm, he’s twitchy fast but when you’re coached by incompetent leadership, you get incompetent result. Kid will be a gem and a solid trade piece, cheap stud for someone in two years.
It depends how well he'll read the field when he has a decent OL, coaching and decent receivers - vs starters and in regular season play. 'Remains to be seen.
Keep Zach & put Stidham up for trade. Wilson was picked early in the draft for a reason.
Stiddy will be #2
If Bo goes down for 3-4 games who do you think will give the Broncos the best chance to win ... Stiddy or Zach?
On the TD to Johnson the CB had no idea where the ball was or that it was thrown his way. He thought Stidham was playing QB and couldn't drive the ball that far.
how many qb2s in this league won a AFC player of the week award last year ...how many qb2s does chase daniel do videos for ...
He failed in NY because of the god awful play calling and OL. Happy that he got a fresh start somewhere else.
seeing him smiling and with a lightness in his spirit, made me happy for him. Sean Payton is the QB whisperer bruh
For a preseason game, it was fun to watch.
That big run Zach made, the Jets coaches were literally telling him to stay in the collapsing pockets. So, the Jets would end up with 3rd and 34 instead of 1st and 10 on the strength of Zach's legs.
1 big reason is the O Line protects him. In NY he had no time due to lousy protection.
You what interesting Chase is that I notice they force CJ Shroud to go under center a lot. To make sure his footwork was rhythm with his receivers.
IT WAS THE COACH... I have been telling everyone that...
Great breakdown, but curious why you think he's not a potential starter in the league at some point?
In a few years ZW could have a Geno Smith type of resurgence for a different team cause Bo Nix is the man for Denver.
Where was this Zach Wilson? with the Jets. Enough said.
Maybe Zach wasn't the problem in NY. Maybe he was just a piece of a much larger puzzle in NY. He played behind a horrific OL. The play calling was atrocious. His first OC didn't seem to know how to coach him. Then Hackett comes in after an absolute nose dive in Denver with Aaron Rodgers riding in on his white stallion to save everything. Rodgers lasts 4 plays and Zach is thrown out there with the same terrible OL and even worse coaching. The poor kid never had a chance. Now, he is with a coach who will coach him, the playcalling is significantly better, the pressure is off of him, he has a pocket, and he looks like he should be the #2 and could start day one if they need him to. What a difference a change in environment and coaching can make.
Loved this breakdown!! Great job, as if you don't have the expertise lol.
Zach showed that he's QB1. All this talk of "chance at QB2" is laughable.
Amazing what an O line can do for you...
Good OL makes all the difference for QB pressure.
I know the last pass the announcer said the safety should of hit the WR, but I think if he did, he would of drew a PI, because the Receiver had not even touch the ball. I think the Safety didn't know where the ball was, and he was just trying to jump Infront of the receiver to block the veiw, not knowing the ball was kind of thrown short and inside. Because if you look at the safety he was had his hand waved around where the receiver was bracing to catch the ball, only issue.... the ball was behind the Safety back.
That’s exactly what happened. And yes, that would have been a PI for sure.
Zack for 2nd position, no disrespect on Stidham
This is why I am a firm believer in defensive minded coaches letting the offensive guys on his coaching staff pick the QB’s for their franchise cuz defensive minded HC’s always put project QB’s in bad situations. Payton is actually probably the best coach in the league to fix Wilson’s problems and help him develop to a point where he can now go anywhere and produce even as a backup.
Amazing what a good offensive line can do.
Broncos fans cried when payton got him. I guess people don't realize payton makes every qb better
And of course we all should know that you knew that Payton knew Nix was the man. How did you know? Good job, Jody!
@fman4234 yea im sorry that hurts your feelings fman. When you watch payton for years you understand what he wants in a qb. I get it you learn everything from espn
@@flacko_jody2130 Guess you missed my point. Nevermind, Fluck, yer not gonna get it. Now go away.
@@fman4234 obviously Payton thought Nix "was the man" considering he drafted him 12th overall then had him running with the starters immediately. As usual you're incredibly confused
@@AdamB34 I think yer right, Adam, later, I learned that Payton did indeed want Nix in light of his misdirection in wanting Pennox. Would you agree? Am I still "incredibly confused?" : )
I think it funny, Zach has always good mechanics always thrown a good ball.
At the jets he just need a team.
He has a future.
Good breakdowns
Thanks!!
Can’t help but think Payton just knows how to generate good QB’s.
Like who? He's literally never developed a good qb in his entire nfl head coaching career. Brees was already a pro bowler before Payton ever coached him
@@AdamB34 By having good offensive game plans.
He was really good, just a bit slow releasing imo, but also the protection wasn't as good as it should have been. Think this is why they decided to go with 3 QB's? ... Think that's what I heard we were gonna do.
What do you mean, where was this Zach Wilson? After the last game Zach started he was named the AFC Offensive Player of the Week. That was with the Jets.
One, preseason. Two, time to throw.
Cool video breakdown! What do you think he’s missing from being an NFL starter? This stuff looks crazy impressive to me
Good question! Thank you!
The Jets O-line made an open door look like a brick wall. He could rarely even hit his back foot on a 3 step drop before he was getting hit. Yet as is the norm in New York, no matter what the REAL issue, blame the failures on the QB.
He was in NFL QB hell with the Jets
Great vid
That second play was the only middle read throw russ wilson made 15+ yards all of last season season and it was that exact play haha to that exact route
Zach Wilsons college tape was Mahomes esk
Zach Wilson looked good during pre-season last year as well, fans had hope the he was learning to play better while under Rodgers. But ya, it's pre-season.
I mean… no he didn’t really lol his best game was TB and he didn’t go through his reads nearly as fluidly and throw a lot of short passes. He looked better but this by far better imo.
He was not protected in NY. He will be a starter. Hmm, maybe in Greenbay? Yes, Greenbay.
Came here after That JT Sullivan guy became insufferable. Thanks Chase!
That last one should’ve been a pick
He was playing against people who won't even be in the league next week.😂
Maybe in two years. He has to prove himself as a backup first.
Good for him! I’m surprised
Payton made 2 Wilson's look serviceable after being under Hackett
In New York he didn’t have smart offensive coaches to help him out
Greetings from California. Go Broncos!
Yall talk about box nix doing short throws but throwing quick passes then complain about Zach holding the ball...you have to hold it longer to give your receiver time to run down the field for long passes...damn if you do, damn if you don't lol
There's a difference between needing to hold it for 0.3 extra seconds to let a play develop and holding it so long that the window closes and you take a sack 😂😂😂😂. No group of fans are more casual than ZW fans
@AdamB34 I don't even like Zach but I call out BS when I see it....
@@nazoflove none of the criticisms about ZW are BS. They are ALL valid, truthful and can be seen on tape
Zach has always had this. But surrounded by a Jets organization and bad talent mix he could never show it. Got blamed for the failures of the team that still thinks they have Namath somewhere on the field with his era offense.
He is playing for a good head coach. Jets are ugh ly on QBs.
Looks more like the ZW that played at BYU.
Having actual time proces and not running for your life helps. The jets are terrible. Looks like a starter to me.
All you haters need to remember the jets haven’t made the playoffs in 13 years, I guess that was all ZWs fault also!
They didn't improve on offense when they switched QBs - that team was carried by their defense.
@@randyparish4063 they would've made it the last 2 yrs with an even average qb. They didn't make it specifically because of ZW
Chase, just curious, it seemed to me that Barber was overly critical of Wilson. To a certain degree I understand, as he has watched him pretty closely during Wilsons 3 years in NY. However, overall, I wasn't certain he would ever do will in NY, from coaching to surrounding players, including his O line. I see Denver as a much better fit, I would not be surprised to see him QB2 before long.
The Jets have never been able to develop a quarterback
Heat on it