Completing 100% of a set is one of the biggest traps on MTG Arena. There are always unplayable Rares & Mythics in any set. Don't waste your precious Wildcards!!
Great content, drafting is by far my favorite format, and although I'm far from going infinite, I just work on learning from mistakes and trying to become better. This video helped me understand all the options better, appreciate it!
As a long-time player, I've never enjoyed drafting much, but since BRO, I've started to try it and improve. I'm looking forward to your tips. Even falling short of infinite, it looks like a solid method for building my collection
The issue I find with this is that as you rank up, it gets more difficult to win until ultimately, you end up playing against opponents that win against you 50% of the time. The only way I can see around it is to "Git Gud" enough that you're top ranked Mythic. I can only reach Platinum before I start throwing my gems and money away. I really like the practice I get playing drafts on Arena as it allows me to do much better at the LGS, but it looks like I'll have to create a new account for each set so I can play enough to learn the format without breaking the bank. I can't think of any other way around this. They really need to up the reward you get as your rank goes up so that you still have a chance of "going infinite". Maybe it takes winning 4 games at bronze to get a reward commensurate with spend. How about 2 games at Platinum or something like that? Maybe even better, they could just reduce the buy-in as you rank up. Don't offer any more packs or anything like that.
I just have a second arena account that I occasionally complete dailies on to build up some gold so I can do a few premier drafts of a new set before I put my primary resources at risk. Works out pretty well for me. I also only go up to Platinum at the most and then let my rank reset for the next month to carry on from Silver.
Thank you very much for all your guides. I ended up with 97% set completion with The Brother’s wars following your other videos. I just need 30 more mythics to complete the set. Thanks again for all your help and keep up the good work!!
Nice work! Do you think it's worth trying to get the remaining mythics to reach 100% completion, or do you have all the cards you want to be able to play pretty much anything in constructed?
@@gameschooldadMTG not at all worth it, unless wizards adds some sort of bonus to getting the set completed. I have all the cards I want to play with in constructed right now which is a nice change of pace vs previous sets. Plus I have gotten a few mythics from the daily wins and the mid week format play that I think I’ll continue to close the gap without buying packs. We’ll see how things change when ONE launches but like you said, a lot of the mythics aren’t staples so now it’s down to personal preference and objectives.
Wonderful video and thank you for taking the time to explain the finances between the game. You are literally saving my time and helping me focus my games on MTGArena. I watched while I build my WB Exile deck. Thank you for putting this video up and sharing your experience. I LOVE drafting!! Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas. 🍂🍂
I’ll be drafting the new set a lot this season. I’ve always enjoyed draft but didn’t do it too much during Brothers War due to just having gotten started back on Christmas Day. This time I’m ready to start that right out of the gate and hopefully I can figure out the formate quick enough to turn the gold I’ve been hoarding up into gems to keep playing over and over. Until I see what the Standard Meta will look like I’m not really interested in playing it as I’m not the best at brewing decks. Even when I played competitively we always had one guy on the team who was our deck builder and the rest of us either helped tweak the deck or figure out the correct side boarding strategies. Draft can be daunting if you don’t know how to read what is being passed to you but once you figure out what is open it can be much easier to draft a deck you feel confident in. Thanks for all the great content you have been putting out.
I've played arena is Hearthstone a lot when it was still a new game and crushed it, was able to build a very big collection of cards by being pretty much f2p. However, as more and more extensions emerged that played the draft for you (ranking cards etc) I stopped playing it as I felt I was playing against these programs not players. Although I could still be infinite since I had the experience to still draft good decks, I felt kinda cheated. Now as a pretty new MTG player (played for a month a year ago getting to diamond with my own deck, but that's it) I'm really curious but afraid to start playing drafts because I feel like I'll get crushed by people who draft very good decks consistently using 3rd party software. Are my fears unfounded? Should I be preparing extensively by reading up on drafts/meta before trying? I'm not going to pay money to enter these so I'll have to scavange 10k gold first, which will take a week or so, so I don't want to throw away that gold. Thanks.
I'd definitely love to see you do a guide about drafting so I can improve my limited event skills. Loving the new content thank you so much for considering when I told you to do fremium content.
I'm planning on doing a beginner's guide to drafting in the next week or two with everything I've learned. Let me know if you have any other questions or suggestions for future content. I try my best to make as many useful videos as possible 👍
@@gameschooldadMTG you're doing great, I must say) And I'd maybe add only that after watching one of your videos I decided not to open any standard booster 'till the set rotate out. It's all for use of the duplicate protection, of course, because I'm gonna draft that sets as many times as I can, while they're circling in draft's schedule. I've collected so many boosters of MID VOW NEO and SNC the fall will be delicious) Actually I wanna stream it myself, the opening of rotating set boosters. All and all it is interesting to me how I can be so dedicated to being strategic. It appears to be I love to "break" the ftp games by doing so. So thank you as well for helping me to explore myself and my relationship with this complicated economy! Looking forward for your videos about maybe deck building, avoiding netdecking with entire our giant collections!
Yeah, if you can get at least 3 wins, it's not that bad, that makes it just a net cost of 500 gems for the draft. If you get less than 3 wins it becomes much more expensive!
I have pretty much the opposite in terms of set completion as you. I took a break after Throne of Eldraine but have almost complete rares for every previous set that had a quickdraft when the game released. They "nerfed" the rare passes on AI drafts, it used to be that there was no premiere draft (only quick draft) and you could easily get 11+ rares/mythics per AI draft. I stopped playing when they "nerfed" the AI draft because I went from getting 10+ rares per draft on average to 3-4 rares.
I've found 3-5 drafts is a good place to start cracking packs to unlock the chest. I also enjoy the SCE meta more than ladder. You see a lot of different stuff there.
Huh, did not know that I can do this, thought all I could do was just buy packs it to build collection and the only way to get gems was with real money, thanks for this
Would definitely like to see a guide, I’m terrible in draft. Lately I’ve just been cashing in the mastery pass token, to grab all the rares I can get my hands on, then resign after the draw:
Even if you think you're terrible in draft, I wouldn't resign straight after the drafting. There's always a chance that you might pick up an easy win or two and get some good bonus gems. At worst, if you do lose all the games, you're still not any worse off.
I could be wrong but I think there is a slight mistake with the way you calculate win rates. For example at 5:35 you say we need "5 and a half wins which is about 65% wr". I think you might be including the third loss within the win rate which is incorrect. For example to REACH 5 wins you need a win rate of 5 wins to 2 losses to at the very least, which would be about a 70% win rate.
Thanks for your comment. It entirely depends on how you want to look at it. By that logic, to get to 1 win and 0 losses, you need a 100% win rate, which is technically true, but it's not as relevant because it's not taking into account all the results in the event. So although your win rate at 5-2 would be about 71%, your overall win rate by the end of the event at 5-3 would still be 62.5% overall.
@@gameschooldadMTG I went to look things up after making my comment and found a very useful reddit post that goes into the numbers. It's a bit of a wall of text (and I'll link it in another reply so that this comment doesn't get hidden) but it shows that win rates for going infinite are higher than you'd think with quick draft needing close to a 75% wr.
@@CalamityAbe Quick Draft is definitely not as good for 'going infinite' because the gem rewards are so much less compared to Premier Drafts. 75% win rate sounds about right for Quick Drafts.
Great video! I usually do draft and sealed at the begining of every set but I never complete 100% of it, I hope I can get better at limited, it's the best way to get profit from the game to be a ftp player.
This makes no sense about gold being a limited resource. Gold is all you get since they don't give out gems for free. So it seems a better idea to use your gold first. With gems only used when there's not enough gold.
The reasoning behind that is that you are only able to get a limited amount of gold per day, usually around 1,000 for most people, but could be up to 1,500. If you're winning more draft games, then there's actually no limit to the amount of gems you are able to earn, and nothing much worth spending them on once you've already got the mastery pass. You could save up gems if you want, but I don't know what you would be saving them for. If you're buying packs, then you would get more by spending gold on your packs and gems on draft events.
@@gameschooldadMTG OK but usually you have to pay for gems. Not sure how to possibly get that much. Maybe draft. But then you have to break even often enough. Because breaking even always adds gems.
I don't need 4 of every card. Or even one of every card. I don't see the point in that. I just need only the cards and necessary copies of each for my Standard deck. I'm more concerned about the most optimal way of increasing gems. I don't see why pay on gems if you have gold. Since you need the gems anyway. Might as well spend the good to get hrms.
If you like drafting, go ahead. But if you're a constructed only player drafting will feel like a chore. It's better to create a decent constructed deck first with gold and wildcards and then try to win constructed events get to 3400 gems (or 2200 if you have have the previous pass) , buy a mastery pass then the rest of your gold goes to buying packs and getting gold packs.
Even if you don't go infinite. If you win 4 games in a draft you are getting more than what you invested. To new players, do not be scared to draft, watch some guides, learn how to draft and in no time you will be rewarded. Also, the best way to go infinite is to keep trying to go infinite. Even pro drafters were noobs at some point.
I have not seen any of these drafts so I assume they only happen at certain days and will auto show up on my screen?Right now all I have on my screen is the single color deck challenges and the 2 color pre made deck challenges nothing else.I looked around the menus and see nothing about drafts at all so it has been frustrating for me trying to find out more about drafts and how to enter one.
There's always a draft option on the game, but if you haven't yet completed the starter deck challenges it won't show you them yet. Once you've completed the new player experience it'll show you all game modes. Or you can go to your settings and gain access to all game modes immediately if you prefer.
Personally I do the 10k gold drafts until I am plat then I switch to quick drafts or I just stop drawing until next rank reset. Getting 3 wins for 1k gems isn't bad only losing 1/3 your entry for that much value also I tend to rare draft at low rank so getting 10 Rares and still gettin 4 wins is baller. I just watch video literally what I do haha.
Getting infinite is not possible for the majority of players. Only very good players manage a constant win rate of over 60%. This means that if you want to play for free, most players have to farm gold in the constructed area first in order to participate in limited events. Which is not too difficult. Even if you have more losses than wins, 4 wins a day are done quickly (for guaranteed 550 Gold + Daily Quests).
I’ll watch this later - but as someone with 20k gems and 30k gold and all the wildcards I need I can tell you that getting decent (say 55% win rate) at premier draft is the easiest way to fill the collection
@@gameschooldadMTG 😂 Yeah - Although I’ve seen people forget about the 3 packs in the break even calculations. Those stacks of three packs really matter, and saving them til the end of the draft run means you already have 4 of a lot of the last pick rares before you open them too. Break even for sealed due to the sheer amount of cards you get per play is a hard one to calculate - especially in sets with potential double rares.
I have saved some gold for new Set. So I am going to learn quick draft. Yes most likely I will not be able to go infinite as I am pretty new in the game. But experience gained is worth it :)
so I gave this a try today but I swear this game does not want me to have any success. Every deck I brought, every time, my opponents would have the perfect counter to it. I am using meta decks, but I honestly feel like this game itself is trying to make me quit. I have lost almost 3000 gems trying to do these events.. closest I got was 4 wins but most of them were 0 or 1 win. I have nothing but the hardest time in the last couple weeks trying to string wins together... was even 1 win away from breaking Diamond Rank and went on a losing skid that cause me to fall all the way back to where I am about to lose my Platinum ranking... I dont know what to do anymore.
Gold is best used to buy packs when you've done enough drafting for a set. You'll see diminishing returns in drafting for collection building eventually, so if you can't go infinite, the best alternative is to draft as much as possible and then buy packs with gold.
I've never put enough effort into drafting before to get a high enough win rate, so I usually only draft a few times per set. For Phyrexia, I'm going to go all in on drafting to see how much difference it makes, and I'll share my results and what I've learnt in future videos 👍
I really suck at drafts. I've known it's better to get cards, but even with Untapped or other apps that show the best cards to pick, you obviously aren't always going to win. To me the worst part of drafting is lack of card draw, so you basically rely on top decking, and from what I've seen in a lot of matches, top decking 5 lands in a row or more feels really awful.
I've learnt quite a lot about drafting recently and I'll put together a video to sum it all up in the next week or two, which might help, although there are people out there who know a lot more than me!
The game should give us at least 3000 gems every new set to let us try to earn cards for free. This correspond to two premiuim drafts, it is fair. I have 400 gems, I cant even play quick draft
@@gameschooldadMTG but if I don't have luck and lose before earning the minimum of gems, those gold coins that could be used to buy packs are lost. I am very unlucky in drafts
So your telling me no matter what we have to spend money becuase it's not enough that they make us spend on physical cards and no matter what it will cost 20 bucks what a rip off
I want to get better at drafts; though I'm not too good at it. Never have been. Especially now; I haven't played in 10 years and I don't know the current game mechanics atm. lmao
Standard event is brutal. Players are much more toxic and you need to be playing a tier 1 meta deck to even get close to break even/infinite. good luck.
I recognize this is a year ago. However, The issue I have with videos like this. If someone is unaware of the concept of going infinite okay this helps know which formats will help me. But How do I get infinite cards then. You say IF your drafting win rate is good. IF you continue get wins. So then if how you go infinite is determined by how you build drafts. Then it seems THAT should be the video no? How to go infinite is to be better at draft. Well to be better at draft wouldn't you supply tips that way?
@@user-ck9tb4fv2x I do also have videos with tips to improve your draft win rate too. I still think it's important to know which game modes to play and how viable getting more cards is.
The only way to get a Mox Pearl that I know of is to use the Oracle of the Alpha, which conjures the power 9 into your library. I don't think there's any other way of getting it or crafting it.
@@gameschooldadMTG Thank you very much for your aswer! Yes, I have found the same answer else, but even this Alpha card can not be crafted from wildcards by me into my deck. Someone used this Alpha card against me in one of my party. I was shocked to see Mox Pearl and Jet conjuring down by my opponent! The only thing I can use is Mox Amber.
@@davidfazekas6752 the Oracle card is only legal in Alchemy and Historic, so you can't craft it for a Standard or Explorer deck. If you go to add a new deck, you should be able to search for it.
Yeah drafting has always been the cheapest ways to get cards. I'm not a big fan of spending all night playing matches that last 45 minutes each though so I do other things.
@@LaurentCassaro I've seen people completely fill out a collection by drafting with a high enough win rate and have hundreds of wildcards left over. Traditional Draft is also not ranked, so if you got to a high rank in Premier Draft, you could switch over to that instead. That's what I mean in a practical sense.
Draft event is big scam paying 350 gems to win 500 gems so if you be very lucky you at least get 200 gem but its like you getting your money back 😂😂😂 I think buying packs is really better and get wildcards to craft
@@gameschooldadMTG Ohh, thanks for the response :). Ehm well im basically not that knowledgeable yet on stuff. I mostly play standard with mono red, i have a white mono soldiers deck and fiddle around with the Blue Djinn fun, but i don't know all of the themes from all the decks yet, so i end up drafting poorly, very unoptimized stuff. I think i just need more experience :) But ill get there!
Don't play those gemstone events. This game have decks with infinite braindead loops (technically that would be called exploit, but it kind of isn't) almost no chances to win against those, so if anything can be called infinite there, its lame loop decks being used . Most of participants are using those decs. Immersion braking and extremely lame. By the way, if you are new to game, don't pay a dime, possible to build fair deck to have fun, and with just a bit of time possible to add to that deck, to have some nice RP card time. This video is m misinformative .
I'm not sure what you mean about decks with infinite loops. You don't tend to get those kinds of combos in limited events. In Historic and Explorer the power level is definitely higher and you need to be prepared for that, but either way the same cards are available to you as much as your opponents. It is definitely possible to enjoy this game very much without spending any actual money. Which part do you think is misinformation?
@@gameschooldadMTG yeah, I played Historic. I stand slightly corrected. In historic, those loopty loops are main decks used. At least in gemstone events. Misinformative part is that there are less chance to have victory in those events than stated. Usually its polished well built decks and in some formats, purely lame exploitative. Wouldn't suggest new players to enter, for instead of reaping gem stones, they will lose them.
@@gameschooldadMTG Infinite Loop decks I am describing, takes over after 3 to 5 rounds by starting infinitely reproducing cards (and effects of those cards), one game opponent took over completely, even took ability to play my rounds. There was one with infinite (almost) Smeagol token. And I thought that Demogorgons Clutches that I use is OP card.
@@gameschooldadMTG That opening "..complete your card collection for free" and having and going with deck which have aprox. 60-70 percent win rate alludes to that. I am having fairly good percentages on rated historical games with my deck, that is not viable on gemstone events. And now I am wondering, if that "going Infinite" was a nod to building loop deck. And given the fact that you are veteran player in MtGA game, response "I'm not sure what you mean about decks with infinite loops." is fairly strange.
@@gameschooldadMTG you will need a really pay to win deck and there's no ranking so you can be paired with higher good players... I prefer to keep playing limited event 😎
@@gameschooldadMTG After completing the color challenges and a few rounds of Jump In, I had 3k gold, leaving the standard event as my only option out of the options presented in the video. I thought it was a draft, but it's very much not and I only have starter decks. So yeah... I had 1 hard fought win and just got clobbered the rest of the games.
@@xTheMidlanderx To be honest, I'm quite impressed you managed to get a win in a standard event with just the starter decks! If you want to do drafts to start building a collection and win some gems, then keep building up your daily gold until you have enough to enter a quick draft. There's always a chance that you could not get many wins in the draft event, but at least you'll get to keep the cards, so it's not all bad. If you would rather build a collection without any risk, then just buy the most recent packs whenever you can and you'll have guaranteed results. If you're just starting out, this video might be more useful for you -> th-cam.com/video/c_U_pWv6i9Q/w-d-xo.html
Thanks! I'm an OG Magic veteran and big fan of card games in general. (Banners of Ruin is my recent obsession) I did eventually find that video you linked and I started a fresh account to get a better start. Looking forward to a proper start when I'm done adulting for the day.
@@gameschooldadMTG Well, I was hoping to learn something new. I learned from other infinite vids to draft and play only the first four games. That way you’re paid to draft. I learned myself that my win rate is higher end of month when I’m silver or lower. I was hoping for some angle like that. Not just rereading me the pages from each arena screen. Teach me something I’m less likely to know - teaching me what arena already says will be new for only the people who don’t read instructions.
I'm guessing by 'first four games' you mean not to play a draft game if you've already got 4 wins or completed your daily gold quests for the day, (because I can't imagine what else that could refer to), then I don't see any particular value in that. Daily quests won't always align with the draft deck that you're using anyway, and the daily wins you can get with any other play mode if you want to, it's not like you're limited to a certain number of games per day, so there's nothing wasted by playing an extra draft game without the daily gold rewards. Whether you have a slightly higher win rate at different times of the month or at different ranks is an interesting idea.
@@gameschooldadMTG Does work a little like that - the more you win the higher your invisible ‘ELO’ so the tougher your average opponent (within your visible rank usually). If you wait til the end of a rank then the ‘good’ bronze players have all graduated and the wins are just a little easier. I guess the 4 wins per day strategy is trying to exploit this and the daily wins too.
I've never got more than one win. Seems like I get consistently fucked on draws/matchups every single time I enter an event. Playing against p2p ungodly decks that are way out of my level for just starting
If you're entering constructed events with a bad deck, you're not going to get more than 1 win. Not because the game is rigged, but because you're using a bad deck. Why would you enter events with a bad deck?
Completing 100% of a set is one of the biggest traps on MTG Arena. There are always unplayable Rares & Mythics in any set. Don't waste your precious Wildcards!!
getting 100% competition on ONE is good flavor tbf
Great content, drafting is by far my favorite format, and although I'm far from going infinite, I just work on learning from mistakes and trying to become better. This video helped me understand all the options better, appreciate it!
I'm actually putting lots of effort into doing better at drafting for Phyrexia, so I hope it works out for me! 🤞
Same and good luck to yas
As a long-time player, I've never enjoyed drafting much, but since BRO, I've started to try it and improve. I'm looking forward to your tips. Even falling short of infinite, it looks like a solid method for building my collection
Young me: "wow, so much stuff I can earn for free!"
Adult me: "shoot, my time isn't free"
I completely agree :)
The issue I find with this is that as you rank up, it gets more difficult to win until ultimately, you end up playing against opponents that win against you 50% of the time. The only way I can see around it is to "Git Gud" enough that you're top ranked Mythic. I can only reach Platinum before I start throwing my gems and money away.
I really like the practice I get playing drafts on Arena as it allows me to do much better at the LGS, but it looks like I'll have to create a new account for each set so I can play enough to learn the format without breaking the bank. I can't think of any other way around this.
They really need to up the reward you get as your rank goes up so that you still have a chance of "going infinite". Maybe it takes winning 4 games at bronze to get a reward commensurate with spend. How about 2 games at Platinum or something like that? Maybe even better, they could just reduce the buy-in as you rank up. Don't offer any more packs or anything like that.
I just have a second arena account that I occasionally complete dailies on to build up some gold so I can do a few premier drafts of a new set before I put my primary resources at risk. Works out pretty well for me.
I also only go up to Platinum at the most and then let my rank reset for the next month to carry on from Silver.
Thank you very much for all your guides. I ended up with 97% set completion with The Brother’s wars following your other videos. I just need 30 more mythics to complete the set. Thanks again for all your help and keep up the good work!!
Nice work! Do you think it's worth trying to get the remaining mythics to reach 100% completion, or do you have all the cards you want to be able to play pretty much anything in constructed?
@@gameschooldadMTG not at all worth it, unless wizards adds some sort of bonus to getting the set completed. I have all the cards I want to play with in constructed right now which is a nice change of pace vs previous sets. Plus I have gotten a few mythics from the daily wins and the mid week format play that I think I’ll continue to close the gap without buying packs. We’ll see how things change when ONE launches but like you said, a lot of the mythics aren’t staples so now it’s down to personal preference and objectives.
Wonderful video and thank you for taking the time to explain the finances between the game. You are literally saving my time and helping me focus my games on MTGArena. I watched while I build my WB Exile deck. Thank you for putting this video up and sharing your experience. I LOVE drafting!! Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas. 🍂🍂
Glad you found it helpful! Thanks for the comment :)
I’ll be drafting the new set a lot this season. I’ve always enjoyed draft but didn’t do it too much during Brothers War due to just having gotten started back on Christmas Day. This time I’m ready to start that right out of the gate and hopefully I can figure out the formate quick enough to turn the gold I’ve been hoarding up into gems to keep playing over and over. Until I see what the Standard Meta will look like I’m not really interested in playing it as I’m not the best at brewing decks. Even when I played competitively we always had one guy on the team who was our deck builder and the rest of us either helped tweak the deck or figure out the correct side boarding strategies. Draft can be daunting if you don’t know how to read what is being passed to you but once you figure out what is open it can be much easier to draft a deck you feel confident in. Thanks for all the great content you have been putting out.
Super appreciate the breakdown and comparison on win rates across the different events! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I've played arena is Hearthstone a lot when it was still a new game and crushed it, was able to build a very big collection of cards by being pretty much f2p. However, as more and more extensions emerged that played the draft for you (ranking cards etc) I stopped playing it as I felt I was playing against these programs not players. Although I could still be infinite since I had the experience to still draft good decks, I felt kinda cheated. Now as a pretty new MTG player (played for a month a year ago getting to diamond with my own deck, but that's it) I'm really curious but afraid to start playing drafts because I feel like I'll get crushed by people who draft very good decks consistently using 3rd party software. Are my fears unfounded? Should I be preparing extensively by reading up on drafts/meta before trying? I'm not going to pay money to enter these so I'll have to scavange 10k gold first, which will take a week or so, so I don't want to throw away that gold. Thanks.
I'd definitely love to see you do a guide about drafting so I can improve my limited event skills. Loving the new content thank you so much for considering when I told you to do fremium content.
I'm planning on doing a beginner's guide to drafting in the next week or two with everything I've learned. Let me know if you have any other questions or suggestions for future content. I try my best to make as many useful videos as possible 👍
This channel is so underrated. Thank you!
I appreciate that! Let me know if you have any suggestions on anything I can improve! :)
@@gameschooldadMTG you're doing great, I must say) And I'd maybe add only that after watching one of your videos I decided not to open any standard booster 'till the set rotate out. It's all for use of the duplicate protection, of course, because I'm gonna draft that sets as many times as I can, while they're circling in draft's schedule. I've collected so many boosters of MID VOW NEO and SNC the fall will be delicious) Actually I wanna stream it myself, the opening of rotating set boosters. All and all it is interesting to me how I can be so dedicated to being strategic. It appears to be I love to "break" the ftp games by doing so. So thank you as well for helping me to explore myself and my relationship with this complicated economy! Looking forward for your videos about maybe deck building, avoiding netdecking with entire our giant collections!
I feel getting 3 in premier still makes it attainable. It's when you get the prizes less than 1000 gems that you fall off.
Yeah, if you can get at least 3 wins, it's not that bad, that makes it just a net cost of 500 gems for the draft. If you get less than 3 wins it becomes much more expensive!
I have pretty much the opposite in terms of set completion as you. I took a break after Throne of Eldraine but have almost complete rares for every previous set that had a quickdraft when the game released. They "nerfed" the rare passes on AI drafts, it used to be that there was no premiere draft (only quick draft) and you could easily get 11+ rares/mythics per AI draft. I stopped playing when they "nerfed" the AI draft because I went from getting 10+ rares per draft on average to 3-4 rares.
I've found 3-5 drafts is a good place to start cracking packs to unlock the chest. I also enjoy the SCE meta more than ladder. You see a lot of different stuff there.
Huh, did not know that I can do this, thought all I could do was just buy packs it to build collection and the only way to get gems was with real money, thanks for this
Yeah you can win gems just by playing and collect cards in other ways. Let me know if you have any other questions at all :)
Would definitely like to see a guide, I’m terrible in draft. Lately I’ve just been cashing in the mastery pass token, to grab all the rares I can get my hands on, then resign after the draw:
Even if you think you're terrible in draft, I wouldn't resign straight after the drafting. There's always a chance that you might pick up an easy win or two and get some good bonus gems. At worst, if you do lose all the games, you're still not any worse off.
Totally agree with game school dad, you should play man sometimes opponents quit if they draw a bad hand or something.
Ive been doing this with the geist fragment leyline combo or as i call it fraggle rock for a couple of weeks.
I could be wrong but I think there is a slight mistake with the way you calculate win rates. For example at 5:35 you say we need "5 and a half wins which is about 65% wr". I think you might be including the third loss within the win rate which is incorrect. For example to REACH 5 wins you need a win rate of 5 wins to 2 losses to at the very least, which would be about a 70% win rate.
Thanks for your comment. It entirely depends on how you want to look at it. By that logic, to get to 1 win and 0 losses, you need a 100% win rate, which is technically true, but it's not as relevant because it's not taking into account all the results in the event. So although your win rate at 5-2 would be about 71%, your overall win rate by the end of the event at 5-3 would still be 62.5% overall.
@@gameschooldadMTG I went to look things up after making my comment and found a very useful reddit post that goes into the numbers. It's a bit of a wall of text (and I'll link it in another reply so that this comment doesn't get hidden) but it shows that win rates for going infinite are higher than you'd think with quick draft needing close to a 75% wr.
@@CalamityAbe Quick Draft is definitely not as good for 'going infinite' because the gem rewards are so much less compared to Premier Drafts. 75% win rate sounds about right for Quick Drafts.
Great video! I usually do draft and sealed at the begining of every set but I never complete 100% of it, I hope I can get better at limited, it's the best way to get profit from the game to be a ftp player.
Good luck! It's definitely the best way to get the most value, even for players who prefer constructed.
Winning in draft can be tough. I won 7 games my first time then went 0-3 my next two drafts.
yes! videos on how to draft! 😍
I'll share everything I know in the next couple of weeks. There are a lot of other great drafters around to learn from too.
This makes no sense about gold being a limited resource. Gold is all you get since they don't give out gems for free. So it seems a better idea to use your gold first. With gems only used when there's not enough gold.
The reasoning behind that is that you are only able to get a limited amount of gold per day, usually around 1,000 for most people, but could be up to 1,500. If you're winning more draft games, then there's actually no limit to the amount of gems you are able to earn, and nothing much worth spending them on once you've already got the mastery pass. You could save up gems if you want, but I don't know what you would be saving them for. If you're buying packs, then you would get more by spending gold on your packs and gems on draft events.
@@gameschooldadMTG OK but usually you have to pay for gems. Not sure how to possibly get that much. Maybe draft. But then you have to break even often enough. Because breaking even always adds gems.
I don't need 4 of every card. Or even one of every card. I don't see the point in that. I just need only the cards and necessary copies of each for my Standard deck.
I'm more concerned about the most optimal way of increasing gems. I don't see why pay on gems if you have gold. Since you need the gems anyway. Might as well spend the good to get hrms.
What would you spend the extra gems on if you could build up thousands of them?
@@gameschooldadMTG Basically I try to use it for draft and sealed.
If you aren’t great at draft, it’s best to spend gold on packs and gems on drafts because of the gem to gold value ratios being different
Thnx for another great video on Arena economy!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I admire people who are good with the draft mode. Honestly speaking i might give it a try
You just have to think a little differently compared to constructed games, but drafting can definitely be fun and rewarding.
Thank you for MTG financial advice!
Any time!
Let’s go infinity baby. Thanks for the guide. Hope it works
I hope so too!
@@gameschooldadMTG thanks dad, love you 🥰
If you like drafting, go ahead. But if you're a constructed only player drafting will feel like a chore. It's better to create a decent constructed deck first with gold and wildcards and then try to win constructed events get to 3400 gems (or 2200 if you have have the previous pass) , buy a mastery pass then the rest of your gold goes to buying packs and getting gold packs.
That's definitely a decent strategy, and what I would probably recommend for anyone who is not interested at all in playing draft.
Even if you don't go infinite. If you win 4 games in a draft you are getting more than what you invested.
To new players, do not be scared to draft, watch some guides, learn how to draft and in no time you will be rewarded. Also, the best way to go infinite is to keep trying to go infinite. Even pro drafters were noobs at some point.
draft two drops! using ALL of your mana on turns 2, 3 and 4 is the best draft strategy!
I have not seen any of these drafts so I assume they only happen at certain days and will auto show up on my screen?Right now all I have on my screen is the single color deck challenges and the 2 color pre made deck challenges nothing else.I looked around the menus and see nothing about drafts at all so it has been frustrating for me trying to find out more about drafts and how to enter one.
There's always a draft option on the game, but if you haven't yet completed the starter deck challenges it won't show you them yet. Once you've completed the new player experience it'll show you all game modes. Or you can go to your settings and gain access to all game modes immediately if you prefer.
Personally I do the 10k gold drafts until I am plat then I switch to quick drafts or I just stop drawing until next rank reset. Getting 3 wins for 1k gems isn't bad only losing 1/3 your entry for that much value also I tend to rare draft at low rank so getting 10 Rares and still gettin 4 wins is baller. I just watch video literally what I do haha.
Getting infinite is not possible for the majority of players. Only very good players manage a constant win rate of over 60%. This means that if you want to play for free, most players have to farm gold in the constructed area first in order to participate in limited events. Which is not too difficult. Even if you have more losses than wins, 4 wins a day are done quickly (for guaranteed 550 Gold + Daily Quests).
tl;dr: get very good at draft or constructed
The very short answer: yes (mostly draft) 👍
I’ll watch this later - but as someone with 20k gems and 30k gold and all the wildcards I need I can tell you that getting decent (say 55% win rate) at premier draft is the easiest way to fill the collection
I'm glad I didn't say anything wildly different in that case! 😅
@@gameschooldadMTG 😂 Yeah - Although I’ve seen people forget about the 3 packs in the break even calculations. Those stacks of three packs really matter, and saving them til the end of the draft run means you already have 4 of a lot of the last pick rares before you open them too.
Break even for sealed due to the sheer amount of cards you get per play is a hard one to calculate - especially in sets with potential double rares.
I have saved some gold for new Set. So I am going to learn quick draft. Yes most likely I will not be able to go infinite as I am pretty new in the game. But experience gained is worth it :)
It takes some time to learn it, but it's worth it when you do.
Great video, ty
so I gave this a try today but I swear this game does not want me to have any success. Every deck I brought, every time, my opponents would have the perfect counter to it. I am using meta decks, but I honestly feel like this game itself is trying to make me quit. I have lost almost 3000 gems trying to do these events.. closest I got was 4 wins but most of them were 0 or 1 win. I have nothing but the hardest time in the last couple weeks trying to string wins together... was even 1 win away from breaking Diamond Rank and went on a losing skid that cause me to fall all the way back to where I am about to lose my Platinum ranking... I dont know what to do anymore.
why would we keep our golds instead of gems ?? what better use is there to gold apart from draft ?
Gold is best used to buy packs when you've done enough drafting for a set. You'll see diminishing returns in drafting for collection building eventually, so if you can't go infinite, the best alternative is to draft as much as possible and then buy packs with gold.
@@gameschooldadMTG why ? you can't get duplicates from boosters ? so i'm garanted to get the cards i miss ?
Hey Martin, are you going infinite?
I've never put enough effort into drafting before to get a high enough win rate, so I usually only draft a few times per set. For Phyrexia, I'm going to go all in on drafting to see how much difference it makes, and I'll share my results and what I've learnt in future videos 👍
I don‘t see the point for quick drafts, i spend all my go,d for boosters to get wildcards, no need to take the trash cards from the draft
Wildcards are very useful, so I'm not surprised! :)
I really suck at drafts. I've known it's better to get cards, but even with Untapped or other apps that show the best cards to pick, you obviously aren't always going to win. To me the worst part of drafting is lack of card draw, so you basically rely on top decking, and from what I've seen in a lot of matches, top decking 5 lands in a row or more feels really awful.
I've learnt quite a lot about drafting recently and I'll put together a video to sum it all up in the next week or two, which might help, although there are people out there who know a lot more than me!
I've lost 10 games in a row before. So it can definitely happen. Especially if you're not running a Meta deck, but everyone else is.
Here's the 'too long, didn't watch' explanation of the secret to infinite cards: enter events and win most of your matches.
The game should give us at least 3000 gems every new set to let us try to earn cards for free. This correspond to two premiuim drafts, it is fair.
I have 400 gems, I cant even play quick draft
You can enter a quick draft using the free gold that you collect each day, and then win enough gems to enter another one.
@@gameschooldadMTG but if I don't have luck and lose before earning the minimum of gems, those gold coins that could be used to buy packs are lost. I am very unlucky in drafts
@@lincolnprestes7617 buying packs is pretty good value too, so if you want to avoid drafts, just buy the packs instead 👍
So your telling me no matter what we have to spend money becuase it's not enough that they make us spend on physical cards and no matter what it will cost 20 bucks what a rip off
We all are waiting for pirexia
I know! I can't wait! :)
I want to get better at drafts; though I'm not too good at it. Never have been. Especially now; I haven't played in 10 years and I don't know the current game mechanics atm. lmao
Standard event is brutal. Players are much more toxic and you need to be playing a tier 1 meta deck to even get close to break even/infinite. good luck.
Or lose 3 games in a row because no land for 3 turns.
It can happen!
I recognize this is a year ago. However, The issue I have with videos like this. If someone is unaware of the concept of going infinite okay this helps know which formats will help me. But How do I get infinite cards then. You say IF your drafting win rate is good. IF you continue get wins. So then if how you go infinite is determined by how you build drafts. Then it seems THAT should be the video no? How to go infinite is to be better at draft. Well to be better at draft wouldn't you supply tips that way?
@@user-ck9tb4fv2x I do also have videos with tips to improve your draft win rate too. I still think it's important to know which game modes to play and how viable getting more cards is.
How to get Mox Pearl?
The only way to get a Mox Pearl that I know of is to use the Oracle of the Alpha, which conjures the power 9 into your library. I don't think there's any other way of getting it or crafting it.
@@gameschooldadMTG Thank you very much for your aswer! Yes, I have found the same answer else, but even this Alpha card can not be crafted from wildcards by me into my deck. Someone used this Alpha card against me in one of my party. I was shocked to see Mox Pearl and Jet conjuring down by my opponent! The only thing I can use is Mox Amber.
@@davidfazekas6752 the Oracle card is only legal in Alchemy and Historic, so you can't craft it for a Standard or Explorer deck. If you go to add a new deck, you should be able to search for it.
@@gameschooldadMTG Thank you. I only play in Historic, but I could not found it. I try it again.
Tried historic event and got 3 times mana screwed then absolutely slaughtered.
That's awful! Does the deck you were using work pretty well in other Historic matches?
Yeah drafting has always been the cheapest ways to get cards. I'm not a big fan of spending all night playing matches that last 45 minutes each though so I do other things.
You find draft matches take that long? Mine usually take 10 or 15 at the most generally. Especially with Phyrexia where the aggro is really strong.
I'll be watching the comments section, and then I'll know you didn't watch to the end of the video 🤣
It had to be said! :)
So, to get "unlimited cards and gems", we have to make good results consistently in events ... wow.
Yeah I know, it's not a complicated idea, but this video is intended for people who didn't know it was possible or how to do it 👍
@@gameschooldadMTG I'm pretty sure nobody in the world can go INFINITE in draft, given how rewards are.
But I get what you meant.
@@LaurentCassaro I've seen people completely fill out a collection by drafting with a high enough win rate and have hundreds of wildcards left over. Traditional Draft is also not ranked, so if you got to a high rank in Premier Draft, you could switch over to that instead. That's what I mean in a practical sense.
Draft event is big scam paying 350 gems to win 500 gems so if you be very lucky you at least get 200 gem but its like you getting your money back 😂😂😂
I think buying packs is really better and get wildcards to craft
Its too bad i suck at drafting...
Which part do you think you get stuck on? Picking the cards, making the deck, or the actual games?
@@gameschooldadMTG Ohh, thanks for the response :). Ehm well im basically not that knowledgeable yet on stuff. I mostly play standard with mono red, i have a white mono soldiers deck and fiddle around with the Blue Djinn fun, but i don't know all of the themes from all the decks yet, so i end up drafting poorly, very unoptimized stuff.
I think i just need more experience :) But ill get there!
@@TheJeroenbrouwer Yeah getting more experience with the set and knowing the different deck types really helps in drafting.
Don't play those gemstone events. This game have decks with infinite braindead loops (technically that would be called exploit, but it kind of isn't) almost no chances to win against those, so if anything can be called infinite there, its lame loop decks being used . Most of participants are using those decs. Immersion braking and extremely lame. By the way, if you are new to game, don't pay a dime, possible to build fair deck to have fun, and with just a bit of time possible to add to that deck, to have some nice RP card time. This video is m misinformative .
I'm not sure what you mean about decks with infinite loops. You don't tend to get those kinds of combos in limited events. In Historic and Explorer the power level is definitely higher and you need to be prepared for that, but either way the same cards are available to you as much as your opponents. It is definitely possible to enjoy this game very much without spending any actual money. Which part do you think is misinformation?
@@gameschooldadMTG yeah, I played Historic. I stand slightly corrected. In historic, those loopty loops are main decks used. At least in gemstone events. Misinformative part is that there are less chance to have victory in those events than stated. Usually its polished well built decks and in some formats, purely lame exploitative. Wouldn't suggest new players to enter, for instead of reaping gem stones, they will lose them.
@@PonasPravalas I didn't say anything at all about someone's chances at winning events.
@@gameschooldadMTG Infinite Loop decks I am describing, takes over after 3 to 5 rounds by starting infinitely reproducing cards (and effects of those cards), one game opponent took over completely, even took ability to play my rounds. There was one with infinite (almost) Smeagol token. And I thought that Demogorgons Clutches that I use is OP card.
@@gameschooldadMTG That opening "..complete your card collection for free" and having and going with deck which have aprox. 60-70 percent win rate alludes to that. I am having fairly good percentages on rated historical games with my deck, that is not viable on gemstone events.
And now I am wondering, if that "going Infinite" was a nod to building loop deck.
And given the fact that you are veteran player in MtGA game, response "I'm not sure what you mean about decks with infinite loops." is fairly strange.
Constructed events are just pay to win 🤑
@@aurblack8204 I don't see what you're paying for apart from the entry fee?
@@gameschooldadMTG you will need a really pay to win deck and there's no ranking so you can be paired with higher good players... I prefer to keep playing limited event 😎
@@aurblack8204 you don't need to pay to make a good deck.
@@gameschooldadMTG sure, you should play a lot and craft card you need, right?
@@aurblack8204 basically, but you don't even really need to play a lot unless you want to craft lots of different meta decks for free.
I wish I didn't see this. What a way to waste the first day's gold.
How did you waste gold? By doing quick drafts?
@@gameschooldadMTG After completing the color challenges and a few rounds of Jump In, I had 3k gold, leaving the standard event as my only option out of the options presented in the video. I thought it was a draft, but it's very much not and I only have starter decks. So yeah... I had 1 hard fought win and just got clobbered the rest of the games.
@@xTheMidlanderx To be honest, I'm quite impressed you managed to get a win in a standard event with just the starter decks! If you want to do drafts to start building a collection and win some gems, then keep building up your daily gold until you have enough to enter a quick draft. There's always a chance that you could not get many wins in the draft event, but at least you'll get to keep the cards, so it's not all bad. If you would rather build a collection without any risk, then just buy the most recent packs whenever you can and you'll have guaranteed results. If you're just starting out, this video might be more useful for you -> th-cam.com/video/c_U_pWv6i9Q/w-d-xo.html
Thanks! I'm an OG Magic veteran and big fan of card games in general. (Banners of Ruin is my recent obsession) I did eventually find that video you linked and I started a fresh account to get a better start. Looking forward to a proper start when I'm done adulting for the day.
TL:DR, win more gems than you spend. This video was a waste of time sorry.
That's the first time I've heard that one, but to be honest, every video would be a waste of time if you knew it all before watching 👍
@@gameschooldadMTG Well, I was hoping to learn something new. I learned from other infinite vids to draft and play only the first four games. That way you’re paid to draft. I learned myself that my win rate is higher end of month when I’m silver or lower. I was hoping for some angle like that. Not just rereading me the pages from each arena screen. Teach me something I’m less likely to know - teaching me what arena already says will be new for only the people who don’t read instructions.
I'm guessing by 'first four games' you mean not to play a draft game if you've already got 4 wins or completed your daily gold quests for the day, (because I can't imagine what else that could refer to), then I don't see any particular value in that. Daily quests won't always align with the draft deck that you're using anyway, and the daily wins you can get with any other play mode if you want to, it's not like you're limited to a certain number of games per day, so there's nothing wasted by playing an extra draft game without the daily gold rewards.
Whether you have a slightly higher win rate at different times of the month or at different ranks is an interesting idea.
@@gameschooldadMTG Does work a little like that - the more you win the higher your invisible ‘ELO’ so the tougher your average opponent (within your visible rank usually). If you wait til the end of a rank then the ‘good’ bronze players have all graduated and the wins are just a little easier. I guess the 4 wins per day strategy is trying to exploit this and the daily wins too.
Gold is more limited resource lol what a 🤡🤡🤡
Not sure what you mean.
Hahahaha spend money got it
@@amanfromthewest7326 what part of 'free' did you miss?
I've never got more than one win. Seems like I get consistently fucked on draws/matchups every single time I enter an event. Playing against p2p ungodly decks that are way out of my level for just starting
Just fyi I'm platinum 1 and like 2 weeks in. The shuffle and match up rigged coding is a real thing
If you're entering constructed events with a bad deck, you're not going to get more than 1 win. Not because the game is rigged, but because you're using a bad deck. Why would you enter events with a bad deck?