The mistake that Apple made with the touch bar was making it replace the top row function keys instead of having it as an addition above it. it was enough of an annoyance for people that they hated the touch bar. there's enough space that Apple could have had both and made it work.
You are completely right, there is room about the function keys for a Touch Bar. I really liked that Touch Bar a lot, its a shame they got rid of it...
I use the Touch Bar everyday since 2016 love that it completes words when I type just like on the iPhone. I’ve tried to upgrade to the m3 and m2 and went straight back to my 2016 mbp. It still works fine so why spend the money.
same here.. It is my dream macbook way back 2021 but I can only afford the air m1 so I bought my first macbook air m1 bnew last 2021 september for 1k dollars.. & now after 3 years I upgraded to macbook pro m1 pro 16 inch & got it used for only 1,240 dollars.. Now I am typing here my comment on dream macbook.. God is Good all the time.. 🙌🙏
@@ChefTom777I will probably buy it this weekend for university. Just have to ask my parents for some more money 😅 but i should have enough to cover most of the price. I hope it is worth every cent!
actually did that, but in 2023. i paid just 1500€ for the 16 inch with 1 tb ssd. the guy who sold it, priced it that cheap cuz it got a scratch on the screen. but that thing is sooooo tiny. its crazy
Imagine they release a Bluetooth Magic Keyboard with touch bar that will have a space gray color and black keys. Just like on a MacBook. That’d be so dope. But I’m afraid it’s not gonna last as long as their current Magic Keyboard.
Some products are once in a generation, buy it and keep it for many years type devices. For me, they are: - MBP M1 16" - S23 Ultra - Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra - Any Sony WH/WX 1000XM3 or above (XM4,XM5)
I don't understand why Apple got rid of the USB A original ports. People still need to connect cameras, mics with USB cables, now we need to get extra adaptors? Why?
💯! I got mine new in 2021 (16" M1 Pro base) and it's still rip-roaring good! Ya, I have a Windows laptop, mostly for gaming (Legion Slim 7i), but the MacBook is simply special, even if it can't do everything.
Thanks for sharing this. Just bought an M1 Max the other day before I watched this, and it's out for delivery as I type this. Today's my birthday. :) Got a great deal on it. 31 cycle count and 96% battery health 1TB for $1250. I already have an M1 Pro MacBook Pro. And that one, on the Black Magic Disk Speed Test, gets 7K Write and 5.5K Read, which blows my mind. I'm curious how my new one will do. I'll sell one of them. :)
6:46 when I traveled with my 2017 MBP, it was impossible to unload any footage on the go - in a car, bus, boat, plane, cafe, anywhere you have to use your LAPtop on a lap or the space on a table is limited and you afraid to move or even touch your macbook. Because any little push and card reader briefly disconnects so you need to start all over again.
I just look this up I bought mine little over 2 years ago first laptop I’ve ever owned and I’ve loved this things since the first day it’s definitely done everything I’ve asked it to do
I honestly could listen to you for an hour about your new MacBook Pro and all of its positives. are there any cons to your new MacBook Pro besides loosing the Touch Bar?
At this point, no. HDMI has been useful, SD Card reader has been great. The only other complaint is that I can't use windows on it, but I just remote into my desktop for that, which allows me to use the graphics processing power of my 3070, as opposed to just letting it sit there collecting dust.
This laptop is not that thicker than the older models. Infact, they are nearly identical in thickness. The tapper with the older modelsake then look like they are thinner, but they aren't.
I like how thin your MacBook Air is. Part of me wonders what the overhead of power on my MacBook Pro is..... Do I require all of this extra stuff, or could I get by with a MacBook Air. That thing is DUMB thin and I love it
I had a 1TB 16gb M1 Air and was editing high end stuff for Sennheiser. A handful of exports didn't render properly so I ended up moving to a base Mac Studio and that was the right decision for me. I think the M1 Pro would have done the job as well because I was occasionally editing 8K stuff on the air and it was certainly capable.@@techno_eclipse
The new M series of chips, continue to blow my mind with how capable they are. I am looking forward to testing out a Mac Studio sometime in the future (although I am afraid I won't be "testing out" so much as buy and keeping haha)
i am same as you i don't what is the spec for yours but i got 16 m1pro 16gb 1tb with warranty for 10month 1650cad. the dude bought it but he didn't like it. I absolutely love it since i came from m1 13 mbp. final cut pro is better than premier pro in m series. if you need to use windows you could use parallel. there is some games supported.
Thank you for the great info. Would you still buy the 16' M1 Macbook Pro (Refurbished with AppleCare) over 15.3' M3 Macbook AIR with 8-Core CPU - 10-Core GPU - 16GB Unified Memory - 512GB SSD Storage They are just about the same price or within $200
@techno-eclipse - What OS are you currently running on? Are you on Sonoma? I love my M1 Max 16" MBP but I'm still running on Monterey and I'm reluctant to update OS... pls advise :).
-_- MacBook pro m1 pro 16". 16/513 is around $1836 in my country(Bangladesh) And MacBook pro m3 pro 14". 18/512 is $1930 Could plz recommend the model that i should buy? For future proofing. I and 2nd year CSE student.
With now expensive parts and repairs, apple twisted 2nd hand marketplace to the point that it is a gamble to get a mac from there without applecare. In the end apple still gets a piece of the pie.
@@techno_eclipse I Just got mine on eBay (16GB/1TB) on eBay from a seller that get's the trade-ins from apple and it is just like new, absolutely perfect. It even had a year left of Applecare+. By far the best laptop I have ever owned.
@@techno_eclipse ah. In response to your touch bar, I bought a 2018 pro couple months ago, I figured it benchmarked similar to my gaming PC so couldn't be slow, and to be fair it's fast for day to day stuff but the touch bar I love. Even skipping unskippable TH-cam ads. However I do question if it's necessarily quicker for brightness and volume, despite it being cooler. However in apps like excel and calculator, it's unquestionably better with touch bar
I think it is certainly slower to adjust brightness, but I think it's the reason Apple has the same design when adjusting the brightness and volume on an iPhone, a better user experience. I do miss the Touch Bar, but it is one of those things that I was always a little afraid of it breaking and then having to replace it.....
yeah but Weddings ? A wedding is just another Name for funeral without burying someone in the ground, but you are burying two poeople who will hate each other within 4 years.... after compounding insurmountable debt.... no reason for celebration..... do sporting events like free style motocross, monster truck rallies, car racing and top fuel dragster, superbike racing, skydiving, white water kayaking, ghost investigations, topo analysis bro
I dunno.......I think my AMD Ryzen 7 equipped Lenovo ThinkPad?...(w/32GB of RAM, and a 4TB SSD) kinda blows your Macbook out of the water. But of course I DON'T do content creation...nope...i do SQL data crunching.....C++ / HTML / Python coding and programming.....but I still think I might be able to hang.....or better yet...maybe try bench-marking stuff OTHER than video renders and graphics?.....or does that kind of "work" not qualify?.....oh well...I guess to each their own!
@techno_eclipse It's all good...I'm so much of a "nerd/geek"?.....I had to have my cousin explain it all to me....apparently MacBooks EXCEL at high-end graphics/video/color editing.....like they're the Rolls Royce of that sector....I had no idea...I figured those were like video game graphics...but it's more like 4K/5K image rendering....so we're in two different camps altogether...like Hockey vs Basketball...two totally different arenas...so I apologize y'all....(jeez...I have GOT to get out more!....!hahhah!)
Not on battery. X86 is only fast on mains power, they collapse on battery. And how long can you run it on full power on battery, 20 minutes? I know, I run both. X86 is ancient tech and should be ditched asap.
@haakon_b I mean if you're talking Windows?....yeah...but I run that powerhouse with Fedora Linix and I get about 2 1/2 hours...sure it's not the 9...10 hours of the MacBooks...but for what i do?...its fine..its actually more than fine...youre only going to be editing/debugging some code for so long...
All the specs are useless the moment you try to do app development and need to put your app on iOS appstore. Some choices are not about bigger numbers but specific usecases.
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The mistake that Apple made with the touch bar was making it replace the top row function keys instead of having it as an addition above it. it was enough of an annoyance for people that they hated the touch bar. there's enough space that Apple could have had both and made it work.
You are completely right, there is room about the function keys for a Touch Bar. I really liked that Touch Bar a lot, its a shame they got rid of it...
Touch bar is the dope
@@danielg3202nah that garbage fails way to often and now you lost all function keys. Glad they got rid of it, good riddance!!
I use the Touch Bar everyday since 2016 love that it completes words when I type just like on the iPhone. I’ve tried to upgrade to the m3 and m2 and went straight back to my 2016 mbp. It still works fine so why spend the money.
just picked this bad boy up today second hand, best laptop ever, worth every cent.
same here.. It is my dream macbook way back 2021 but I can only afford the air m1 so I bought my first macbook air m1 bnew last 2021 september for 1k dollars.. & now after 3 years I upgraded to macbook pro m1 pro 16 inch & got it used for only 1,240 dollars.. Now I am typing here my comment on dream macbook.. God is Good all the time.. 🙌🙏
@@ChefTom777I will probably buy it this weekend for university. Just have to ask my parents for some more money 😅 but i should have enough to cover most of the price. I hope it is worth every cent!
I also want to get one
actually did that, but in 2023. i paid just 1500€ for the 16 inch with 1 tb ssd. the guy who sold it, priced it that cheap cuz it got a scratch on the screen. but that thing is sooooo tiny. its crazy
I have this computer and even in 2024, it's fantastic. Crisp, clear screen, awesome keyboard, lightning fast CPU and long battery life. Love it!!
i just bought it for £1295, 2 years warranty
I miss the Touch Bar too it was unique, customizable and I loved how it showed different tools with different apps
Imagine they release a Bluetooth Magic Keyboard with touch bar that will have a space gray color and black keys. Just like on a MacBook. That’d be so dope. But I’m afraid it’s not gonna last as long as their current Magic Keyboard.
it was innovative, cant lie. Wish I could get one w a touchbar but this just seems like such a better purchase and investment
Some products are once in a generation, buy it and keep it for many years type devices.
For me, they are:
- MBP M1 16"
- S23 Ultra
- Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra
- Any Sony WH/WX 1000XM3 or above (XM4,XM5)
holy moly it's the exact same setup as mine
MBP M1 14"
S23 Ultra
Tab S9 Ultra
Buds 3 Pro
this computer is ungodly fast its unbelieveable. outperforms my PC with really solid specs + graphics card
I don't understand why Apple got rid of the USB A original ports. People still need to connect cameras, mics with USB cables, now we need to get extra adaptors? Why?
You should be asking yourself why are companies still making their products with USB A, instead of usb c
Courage
💯! I got mine new in 2021 (16" M1 Pro base) and it's still rip-roaring good! Ya, I have a Windows laptop, mostly for gaming (Legion Slim 7i), but the MacBook is simply special, even if it can't do everything.
The Touch Bar was awesome. Great for making easy shortcuts and scrolling video. I miss it.
Mine is on its way! Got a base model 16” for $1200!
How much price if 1TB storage there?
Thanks for sharing this. Just bought an M1 Max the other day before I watched this, and it's out for delivery as I type this. Today's my birthday. :) Got a great deal on it. 31 cycle count and 96% battery health 1TB for $1250. I already have an M1 Pro MacBook Pro. And that one, on the Black Magic Disk Speed Test, gets 7K Write and 5.5K Read, which blows my mind. I'm curious how my new one will do. I'll sell one of them. :)
I’ve had my M1 Max from new. The best workhorse ever.
Just bought a 16" M1 MacBook Pro with another 9 months of apple care for $800 on Marketplace...feel like I hit the jackpot
bro from where you bought mac ?
6:46 when I traveled with my 2017 MBP, it was impossible to unload any footage on the go - in a car, bus, boat, plane, cafe, anywhere you have to use your LAPtop on a lap or the space on a table is limited and you afraid to move or even touch your macbook. Because any little push and card reader briefly disconnects so you need to start all over again.
Very true. I never needed to offload footage like that, but I have accidentally bumped my dongles before....
amazing, i always find what i need on this channel, m1 in 2024, i13mini etc. amazing :D
I agree about the Touch Bar
Apple should listen to this part starting at 11:05.
The touch bar is awesome.
I just look this up I bought mine little over 2 years ago first laptop I’ve ever owned and I’ve loved this things since the first day it’s definitely done everything I’ve asked it to do
Still running on my 16inch 32gb 2tb 2019 , love my Touch Bar
Got my MacBook Pro M1 with 32 GB ram and 1TB SSD for 1000 bucks, love this thing!
m1 or m1 pro?
@@distantyahoo M1 Pro
I honestly could listen to you for an hour about your new MacBook Pro and all of its positives. are there any cons to your new MacBook Pro besides loosing the Touch Bar?
At this point, no. HDMI has been useful, SD Card reader has been great. The only other complaint is that I can't use windows on it, but I just remote into my desktop for that, which allows me to use the graphics processing power of my 3070, as opposed to just letting it sit there collecting dust.
@@techno_eclipse makes sense.
That lamp on the left at 0:30 is an Ikea lamp, got the same one in my house in the Caribbean lol :)
I agree about the touch bar - I miss it too
Got an insane deal on this! 16"Pro M1 Max 32GB 1TB for $2000
As an owner of s 14” MPB I plan to maybe replace it when the M5 comes out. Maybe
+1 on the touch bar. I thought it was pretty cool. Some TH-camr probably said how horrible it was and then the sheeple just jumped on the bandwagon.
It is a great one, I bought it new and I even edit and color grade RED footage, yes it is that powerful
Got a M1 16inch 4TB and 96 gb for 3k from B&H a few months back.
Do you think refurbished MacBook Pro M1 Pro 16” 16/512 is worth it for 1600$?
No, I just bought that same one for $1,269 on Amazon.
No, that is too expensive
Aim for 800$ will be a bargain
1100$ final a friend of mine grabbed one for 850£
This laptop is not that thicker than the older models. Infact, they are nearly identical in thickness. The tapper with the older modelsake then look like they are thinner, but they aren't.
Is m1 pro 16' worth it instead of m3 pro 14? Cuz im about buying m1 16' its cheaper than m3 pro
I enjoy my M1 14“ MBP. What I don‘t like is its body design. It doesn‘t look neither fells like an apple laptop, as opposed to a MBA M2.
Completely agree. It obviously has the all metal frame, but the sleekness of the MBA M2 that my wife has feels like an apple laptop.
Mine in silver arrived today ❤
Great video, I do like my MacBook Air a little better since it’s lighter though. Also, great edit 😏
I like how thin your MacBook Air is. Part of me wonders what the overhead of power on my MacBook Pro is..... Do I require all of this extra stuff, or could I get by with a MacBook Air. That thing is DUMB thin and I love it
I had a 1TB 16gb M1 Air and was editing high end stuff for Sennheiser. A handful of exports didn't render properly so I ended up moving to a base Mac Studio and that was the right decision for me. I think the M1 Pro would have done the job as well because I was occasionally editing 8K stuff on the air and it was certainly capable.@@techno_eclipse
The new M series of chips, continue to blow my mind with how capable they are. I am looking forward to testing out a Mac Studio sometime in the future (although I am afraid I won't be "testing out" so much as buy and keeping haha)
I need it for programming and video editing and machine learning should I get it?
Incredible for video editing. Cannot confirm machine learning
i am same as you i don't what is the spec for yours but i got 16 m1pro 16gb 1tb with warranty for 10month 1650cad. the dude bought it but he didn't like it. I absolutely love it since i came from m1 13 mbp.
final cut pro is better than premier pro in m series.
if you need to use windows you could use parallel. there is some games supported.
Thanks dude gonna buy one myself. And yeah touchbar is WAY better lol
The touchbar was the best
Wish they just fixed the bugs on it
Thank you for the great info. Would you still buy the 16' M1 Macbook Pro (Refurbished with AppleCare) over
15.3' M3 Macbook AIR with 8-Core CPU - 10-Core GPU - 16GB Unified Memory - 512GB SSD Storage
They are just about the same price or within $200
Which version of the M1 chip in the MacBook Pro?
@@techno_eclipse 2021 M1 Pro
yes. m1 pro 16 is still far superior in almost every way
@@MachoManDan Thank you for the kind reply!
i found m1 pro max chip, 32gb ram, 1tb ssd, but the screen has a few dead pixels (dark spots), for 1500$, should i maybe get it?
I wouldn’t pay more than 12
I miss the Touch Bar too
Yes i never own a apple anything but this one is the one get will get.
I love Touch Bar! I have it on my mbp m1
BRING THE TOUCH BAR BACK
@techno-eclipse - What OS are you currently running on? Are you on Sonoma? I love my M1 Max 16" MBP but I'm still running on Monterey and I'm reluctant to update OS... pls advise :).
Buying a brand new M1 Max 32gb 16inch for 1900 is that a good deal?
It is right on the cusp, I would try to get it closer to 1500-1600. 1900 isn't the end of the world though
taxes included?
-_- MacBook pro m1 pro 16". 16/513 is around $1836 in my country(Bangladesh)
And MacBook pro m3 pro 14". 18/512 is $1930
Could plz recommend the model that i should buy? For future proofing.
I and 2nd year CSE student.
Is the lcd inferrior to M3 version?
With now expensive parts and repairs, apple twisted 2nd hand marketplace to the point that it is a gamble to get a mac from there without applecare.
In the end apple still gets a piece of the pie.
watching this video on the 14 inch
You can repair it yourself with Apple self service program, I replace my screen on mine for 600 €
Okay dumb question but I found a deal for a 2023 m2 MacBook Pro 16 in with 16gb ram for 1300$ should I go with that over a potential 2021 MacBook Pro?
For 1300? Sounds like a scam
I just bought from Best buy for 900$ refurbished one
How would your specs (M1 Pro, 16G ram) do with Davinci Resolve? TIA
Nice one!
Great laptop easily even for 2024 !! 64 GB ram M1 Max rules even for 2300$
What about the fetch security issue with m1?
i bought my 16 inch m1 pro yesterday and i had one with touchbar (didnt like it)
Yeah so what's the difference
Windows sucks big time.
Yup I agree in certain aspects, macOS just works
I have this 1 showing up mon!!! let’s go
bro breathe
Can we buy them new anymore?
If so from where?
Btw keep up the great videos, I subbed
I cannot find them new anywhere. Best bet is to buy off of Amazon, they have a great return policy. I have one linked in the description
@@techno_eclipse Would also recommend this
@@techno_eclipse I Just got mine on eBay (16GB/1TB) on eBay from a seller that get's the trade-ins from apple and it is just like new, absolutely perfect. It even had a year left of Applecare+. By far the best laptop I have ever owned.
came from windows laptop.. but had a 2018 MacBook Pro? o.0
It was a desktop and I also had a MacBook Pro.
@@techno_eclipse ah. In response to your touch bar, I bought a 2018 pro couple months ago, I figured it benchmarked similar to my gaming PC so couldn't be slow, and to be fair it's fast for day to day stuff but the touch bar I love. Even skipping unskippable TH-cam ads. However I do question if it's necessarily quicker for brightness and volume, despite it being cooler. However in apps like excel and calculator, it's unquestionably better with touch bar
I think it is certainly slower to adjust brightness, but I think it's the reason Apple has the same design when adjusting the brightness and volume on an iPhone, a better user experience. I do miss the Touch Bar, but it is one of those things that I was always a little afraid of it breaking and then having to replace it.....
yeah but Weddings ? A wedding is just another Name for funeral without burying someone in the ground, but you are burying two poeople who will hate each other within 4 years.... after compounding insurmountable debt.... no reason for celebration..... do sporting events like free style motocross, monster truck rallies, car racing and top fuel dragster, superbike racing, skydiving, white water kayaking, ghost investigations, topo analysis bro
You must be fun at parties
@@Ice-yf4iolol😂they are not 😂
He compared a couples day to death 😆
My wife who just finished cooking and being a superstar..laughed at that dude 😂
@@_Stiloyou clearly do not know the meaning of that saying.
Touch bar is book!
dude, clean your keyboard
Touchbar sucks
You’re fake news
😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥
I dunno.......I think my AMD Ryzen 7 equipped Lenovo ThinkPad?...(w/32GB of RAM, and a 4TB SSD) kinda blows your Macbook out of the water. But of course I DON'T do content creation...nope...i do SQL data crunching.....C++ / HTML / Python coding and programming.....but I still think I might be able to hang.....or better yet...maybe try bench-marking stuff OTHER than video renders and graphics?.....or does that kind of "work" not qualify?.....oh well...I guess to each their own!
I make wedding videos and TH-cam videos. I wouldn't even know how to test SQL data crunch lol.
@techno_eclipse It's all good...I'm so much of a "nerd/geek"?.....I had to have my cousin explain it all to me....apparently MacBooks EXCEL at high-end graphics/video/color editing.....like they're the Rolls Royce of that sector....I had no idea...I figured those were like video game graphics...but it's more like 4K/5K image rendering....so we're in two different camps altogether...like Hockey vs Basketball...two totally different arenas...so I apologize y'all....(jeez...I have GOT to get out more!....!hahhah!)
Not on battery. X86 is only fast on mains power, they collapse on battery. And how long can you run it on full power on battery, 20 minutes?
I know, I run both. X86 is ancient tech and should be ditched asap.
@haakon_b I mean if you're talking Windows?....yeah...but I run that powerhouse with Fedora Linix and I get about 2 1/2 hours...sure it's not the 9...10 hours of the MacBooks...but for what i do?...its fine..its actually more than fine...youre only going to be editing/debugging some code for so long...
All the specs are useless the moment you try to do app development and need to put your app on iOS appstore.
Some choices are not about bigger numbers but specific usecases.