Thermals are wayyy better though. I was going buy lg gram 16 but fancy editing a bit in 4k or Full HD. 16gb 16 MacBook or 32gb Lg gram wonder what's better for video editing etc
Better thermals and better fan on the 16". The 16" barely has the fans to come on as supposed to the 14", especially under heavy load like video rendering or gaming. The fans just come on so often on the 14".
the reasons why am sticking to my 16 inch are THE SPEAKERS AND THE BATTERY . the battery of the 16 inch is RIDICULOUSLY GOOD ! I top up the battery every morning , spend the entire day in office on battery and finish a day of work with 60-65% battery left ! That's insane !
@IrlzinzTT Who said because you use a feature you use it also in the office? I also love the speakers and battery of the 16", its amazing. Doesn´t mean i blast them when im in the lecture hall but the amazing battery life helps a lot at long studying days without even thinking about charging.
Absolutely! If you don’t need the portability of the 14, the 16” is a no brainer. Plus the fans are massive on the 16 which results in less fan noise, critical for recording audio.
I would argue that the 16 inch is not too heavy. It is very well balanced which makes a big difference when carrying. I love mine and I take it out into the wild a lot.
@@xstoofpeerThe problem for me with a desktop computer (even the 24 inch imac M1) is that you have to raise your head to look at the screen and therefore you look above the eye line, whereas with a laptop we look down a bit like we do when reading a book.
Great decision. As a student and no video editing work flow, I decide to pick base model that with 512 gb is enough for me. And since portability is not an issue, then why not bigger screen real estate~
This video summed up exactly how I felt about the 14 vs 16. I went with the 16 because I wanted the laptop to actually be a laptop and it is a side to my main windows desktop. But I want the ability to edit on the laptop or just use it on the couch or just not be forced to sit at the desk. I can use my laptop laying down. But I can’t lay down and use my desktop lol. I was going to order the 512 gig and do the same thing as you with a 2tb nvme USB C external enclosure. But then I changed my mind and actually got the one terabyte because if I install a bunch of applications I know I will have at least 300 gigs free on the internal. Then if I record a lot on a weekend trip. I can just use that internal drive to hold 300 gigs of projects it’s enough.
I want to get a MacBook Pro w/ M1 MAX 10/32 core chipset, 32Gb RAM, and 1Tb SSD. Plan on doing photography editing, videography editing when I get a motorcycle, and school work as well as my ground school lessons to get my pilots license. I am only 16, so getting a $3,099 + tax laptop is a BIG decision.. My question is, if I edit videos that may be around 100Gb on average, then once my memory fills up, can I delete those video edits and just restart with let’s say a new months of work?
@@swiift2k538 A fortnite kiddie with 16 years young, literally fresh from the soup is getting a M1 Max, ouch. Oh wait, if anything of that "pilots license" thing is real your parents are anyways rich af get a maxxed out M2 Max
It’s legit like this 😂. I got the 16 thought oh man I made a mistake. Returned it. Got 14. Week later returned went back to 16. Dumbest time of my life. I still have that thought in the back of my head like do I want a 14 again next generation? Shit no idk Ehhhh I can’t believe I still think that.
@@breezefps yes no questions asked 14 days return policy. I personally don’t have an Apple Store nearby so I order online and return can be done via FedEx. Though if you have one near you can use that store for both buying/ordering and returns even from online order. You can in fact on the 14th day initiate a return at 11:59pm on your account and then have 14 more days to drop it at FedEx or cancel the return. Very nice for those times you may not be sure about your purchase as this is a shit ton of money.
As a general reply when the M2 came out I did it again 😂 14” silver to 16” silver to 16” space grey to 14” silver to 16” space grey and kept it. Literally felt like I was having a god damn brain stroke.
@@frostgodx THATS SO COOL! So I can just go to a apple store and say “Hey, I decided to switch for the 14’ instead of the 16’ macbook, can you guys switch for me? And they will give the difference amount of cash of the 14’ to 16’?
I watched this video before getting a 14" and felt EXACTLY the same before AND after and it's hard to believe because I was so dead set. Coming back to say thanks I should have listened lol.
Pretty much the reasons i was going instantly for the 16" (as well because of the sound), the 14" looked already in the shop like a bigger netbook and i hated since ever the thin speaker grills, the 15 and 16" models always looked (and sounded) better. But battery and screen size were the main reasons for 16". I even got away with the base model 16/512, with a Sabrent TB4 external drive its basically as fast as the internal SSD. I have mostly between 200-300GB free space on the internal SSD and this is enough for shorter videos as well, for bigger stuff i need the 2TB sabrent drive which is also handy with about 2500-2700MB/s. Also, since i have to share sometimes hundreds of GB astrophotography data with a windows Desktop to stack/process with my preffered program (Deep Sky Stacker, Windows exclusive) i have to rely anyways very much on external drives.
@@BTMovieSecondChannel i dont want too wait for the m1 max and i dont want too buy it at a 3rd party website will the 16 mac boom pro m1 pro be good for 4k luts and effects music video editing thank you
@@bayareafactorbaby8913 Depends on whether you use Davinci Resolve or Final Cut Pro, or Premiere Pro. Premiere Pro is not as fast as the other two. I think 4K video with LUTs is just fine for a few layers of video, but not for too much. If editing heavily on 4K footage, I'd recommend waiting for the Max, it'll be worth it then.
Great video. In store the 16" looks massive compared to the 14" even though the specs are identical. I always use a wireless keyboard and mouse when I am not connected to my edit bay to avoid the trackpad issue. I want my workflow to stay identical wherever I edit. I usually pack a collapsable mac stand to have the MBP at eye level.
The specs aren’t identical. The base 16” is faster than the base 14”. If you want the 14” with the same spec as the base 16” you need to upgrade it for $300 more dollars and at that point why not spend the extra $200 left to get the 16”.
Maybe for content creators or software developers, the 16-inch is a better fit. I think for anyone else 14-inch is the perfect laptop. It's so portable and yet powerful.
@@extremelucky1 yeah I can definitely see that.. my biggest compromise was the size when it comes to portability.. apple hasn’t sent my trade in kit and I’m still contemplating if keeping the air is worth the giving back the $440 credit they gave me.. but since I have the 12.9 iPad Pro it’s not like I don’t have a portable solution
Love my 16" M1 Max but for what my day job (lots of different locations, 4 wheel office) it is just too big. Ended up keeping it as my in home computer and added the M2 13 Air, with which I am totally impressed. Best of both worlds set up.
Ive always gotten the 13 inch because I am a computer Science major. I wanted something portable. But recently when the new pros came out I got the 14 and then a couple days later decided to get the 16 also. At first the 16 was very big but I got use to it. Now I am having issues deciding. I like both computers for different reasons... ugh
im going to start my Computer Science bachelor after the summer and am trying to decide wether to get the 14" or the 16" model. For programming the 16" might be better because of the bigger screen size, so you can see more lines of code, I also like the bigger battery on the 16". The 14" is just easier to carry around. Still trying to make a decision....
@@zakaria1656 TLDR; If you will be working mostly with bigger screens, get the 14" for mobility. Otherwise get the bigger screen. I know I have commented on something else here but I am a programmer for about 12 years with various experience in working on different laptop sizes. I'd say if you will only be working on the laptop, exclusively, then get the 16" model since it is more real estate and less "alt + tab" all the time which is really can get annoying for the work flow. you can see more lines of code if you of course choose a smaller font but for the long run its not so comfortable. I work with a 14" thinkpad and I only chose this one because at work I have two 24" monitors this laptop is connected to at the office. When I am at home and without any extrnal screens its okay to work on this one for the day, but if it was like this for the entirety of college it would get me crazy. Good luck bud
That's a great decision! You chose the one that would be more beneficial with your lifestyle and line of work. This video will definitely help people who are struggling to decide which one to pick! 😅
The one thing I don't like about the 16" is actually funny enough the trackpad. Because of the large size I notice the palms of my hands are on the trackpad when I'm writing I wish they would make a 15" just to get the weight and size a bit down. But as usual for me what I really would want is never an option 😂. So the best compromise has to be the 14"
I agree. Bought 16” last year, I travel a lot and work remote. My work flow at work needs 4 different chrome tabs open which means the change from 14 to 16 was a game changer. Also during the summer I travel a lot and also work and the 500 nit to 1000 mit difference made a lot of difference when working at the beach. Sometimes it does get annoying the lack of portability but there’s always a inverse relation between portability vs productivity. I think the best set up for me is just the mac with a case not cover or pouch, and no mouse or track pad
Glad to hear you are liking the 16! 2 years later and I’m still happy with my decision. I’m currently flying 4 times a week and it’s been great having the larger size to work on flights
Great video. I have had the 15 in for 10 years and have tried the 14in Pro. It feels really tiny and a long way away from my hands; the screen is noticeably smaller. I can see it being good for travelers, but I'm looking forward to trying the 16in.
Just canceled my order because/thanks to you... i am huge trackpad fan, it's a big part of my workflow as a music producer, i have even bought the magic trackpad to get the same feeling...
I just ordered a 16" max with 64gb ram and 32 gpu with 2 tb storage. My situation is different. It's replacing my 27" iMac and will be my main machine for video/photo editing and will live on my office desk connected to a monitor most of the time. Probably still overkill but I keep my computers for 7-8yrs and I feel it will be future proof for me. Also I shoot with a Canon r5 and have never touched 8k that it's capable but maybe in years to come that will be a thing so...
I finally decided to order one. Space grey 16 (top spec pro chip) whatever it’s called. 2tb 32 gb. After 21 years of life I’m going to get a new in box apple laptop 😅
I saw a couple like and wanted to correct. After the long ship time I went with a local 14 16/1tb with the full spec pro chip. I adore it and the unboxing was fantastic. Thanks for the love
@@JordanPulmano it is great when you are in the go to have more screen real estate if you can’t connect to a dedicated monitor. I’m still mad I got the smaller iPad Pro lol
How come you went with the m1 pro ? Is that enough for you in terms of productivity ? If you decide to upgrade your m1 Pro to 32 gb ram and 1 TB then you will almost spend just as much as you would spend on m1 max
Hi bro, Working with the silver one outside, with the son, do you notice some type of lack of focus because of the britghness of the chasis, because sun reflects more in the silver one? What about that? I like both??
Hey! I haven’t really noticed anything like that. In very bright conditions it can be more difficult to see the screen like anything, but the Liquid Retina is brighter than my old laptop and definitely makes it easier.
Finally broke down and got one with Best Buys deal right now and also opted for the extra tb for $200. I know external can be had for half that but it is nice upfront to have the wiggle room. I edit in 1080 and convert so im not worried about 32gb or Max. My OG m1 mini does fine in braw 6k converted. Also, bought this bad boy with credit card points,.
Ugh I can’t wait to get my 16” MBP. I’m just waiting for one to come in stock lol (wanna do that 0% Apple Card financing). Also I gotta say… a very good lookin guy + with good style + tech? I’m so glad I found your channel recently. :)
@@ceeece how annoying!… if you haven’t yet, try B&H photo. They have a great card and they also have a ton of them in stock (including fully maxed options)
Great video and probably just the one that could help me decide! I bought both, the 14 and 16 ( base model of each ) and cannot decide which to keep. I have noticed that the 16" runs a tad bit warmer ( mid 40s C vs low 40s on the 14" ) and wondering if that is indeed normal. Been watching a lot of videos and reading on MR ( MacRumors ) and the general consensus appears to favor the 16" over the 14", especially in terms of operating temps!
@@Ku6epIIe4eHe7Kept the 16". The larger screen, longer battery per charge, and better speakers had me opt for it. No regrets at all! That said, the current sale ( Costco, Best Buy etc ) on the 14" ($1599) is a steal of a buy!!
@@M5_Sonu picked up the base 16" for 2100 on best buy, amazing deal. Also the thermals are slightly hotter on the 16" in the start because fans don't ramp up on the 16" as early as the 14", but at peak performance 16" runs a lot cooler. Max tech has a bunch of videos on these.
😮 I bought both the 14” and 16” and was going to return the 16” but I am thinking the same based on the big screen but I had the opposite with my hands and the 14” is so much easier to type on. So trying to figure out which to keep
I am curious how much your main PC cost so we can compare your PC monster to a similar spec 16 inch M1. I suspect that a 16 inch m1 max plus a Studio display is cheaper that two full systems.
Great video. Sums up why I will buy the 16-inch. I got curious: Do the resting palm/s on the big trackpad not accidentally trigger anything, when one is typing? 😊 (EDIT: I have a 2014 15-inch MBP. It has a much smaller trackpad and neither of my palm is on it when I type. ☺)
Im mostly at home, and dont travel a lot. And will often be connected to a monitor. BUT i want to move around in my apartment as well. On the couch for example. And when i am other places than my home. I still want to be able to make music and video edit. And im scared that the 14" maybe just will feel to little to do that. The 14" inch is the nicest laptop. But the screen size and the performance and benefits of the 16 inch.. yea. So this is what im struggling with deciding😩
I get it, we really are nitpicking, there are people with bigger problems in the world, but when you spend so much money on a computer, over 5,000 in some models, you need it to be perfect, and spending that much money can make you regret and worry if you got the right model.
I was offered a second hand 14 and 16 inch m1 macbook pro 16 gb memory and 1 TB SSD for 1500$ and 1600$ and they look both like new really, no scratch at all ! I couldnt decide which one to keep and as they are both at such good price and state i kept them both … 😅 What do you think ? A bit crazy ? The 14 inch is more portable and i love the screen of the 16 inch !
A month ago I commented about how you saved me. I always wondered if I made the wrong choice doing the 16. The M2 came out and I got a 14” yesterday on release and I fucked up…😂 It’s going back and I’m going back to the 16” god damnit. I can deal with all the “worse” things on the 14 but no matter what the flow just isn’t there for the screen. It’s worth using a bigger heavier machine no matter the case unless you travel via plane a lot. No way around it just being straight up the best. I hate the weight, the size, and feel, the shape but my god it’s the best damn laptop on the market hands down and the king of the jungle. Honestly docked at my desk being used as an additional display the 14” can’t compete, on the table, on my lap on the couch, anywhere that I am the 16 is just so much better performing where it matters. I was using my 14” all day then watched a Netflix movie on my 16” and it kinda just solidified my thought. Though again the 16” is annoyingly large once you start using it you just can’t go back.. you just can’t. I will forget my love of the 14” size and feel and succumb to the 16” death and enjoy it everytime I remember how poor the screen real estate is on the 14 for workflow.
I did it again 😂 14” silver to 16” silver to 16” space grey to 14” silver to 16” space grey and kept it. Literally felt like I was having a god damn brain stroke. Idk what it is about this but I keep finding others on social media just like me so it’s a real thing and holy hell it’s terrible 😂 I’m glad it’s over
I'm confused between Macbook pro m1 pro 14 inc 16gb 1tb ssd ( 10 CPU_16GPU ) 1910 $ OR Macbook pro m1 pro 16 inc 16gb 512ss ( 10 CPU _16 GPU ) 1960 $ can you help
Will 16 RAM be enough for 4-5 years for normal usage without video editing or rendering at all? Also , my friend is using Macbook Pro 14 Base Model and when he opens 5-6 tabs or 7 in safari and nothing running in the background RAM usage is between 10-12.30 GB. Do you think it is normal or Macbook works like this .
@@frostgodx Someone taller is stronger so the weight and the size is more manageable, in terms of screen size, a small person could perceive the 14 inch area as a taller person could perceive the 16 inch
For someone who have dozens of chrome tabs open, watching twitch streams, video editing, and maybe 1-2 more resource intensive app all open simultaneously, do you think 16gb would work or better to go for 32?
Love your videos!!! I have the option of getting a 14" , 1TB, 10CPU, 16GPU, 32 unified, 16 neural engine (10/16/32/16) new in box and sealed, or a base 16", 512GB, 10/16/16/16 from the actual Apple store for roughly the same price. I am a bit confused about the throttle, thermos, and battery life implications. I want good battery, and I do love a smoother photo/video editing workflow, but I am not a professional (i.e., it's not my main income). I am not sure if I go with the 14" from a private seller, or the Apple store. What would you do?
The benefits of editing video on the internal SSD is unnoticeable over external SSDs, which is easily 10 to 50 times the playback speed of most 4K video. The bottleneck is processing power and RAM.
NO! Be aware, if you talk about fast (in long term when writing 50GB+ continous) SSDs and a TB3/4 SSD enclosure, YES! But i have also 2 slower USB 3.1 enclosures (m.2!) which throttle intentional to avoid overheating, they throttle to 60MB/s down after 30-40GB written (with 700-800MB/s)
Also, what are you talking about? the processed prores 4-2-2 (HQ) data in the background are VERY space demanding, a 1GB video clip from my EOS R7 become within just a little color grading a 5-15GB project file!, so you have to write easily 5x and more data on the external SSD than your original videos size! As said... my cheaper m.2 enclosures and SSDs are pretty unusable above about 50GB (project size)... so at best a 5-10GB video is fast enough imported/ready for fast editing/export. Considering modern 4k60 files etc easily eats up 5-10 GB in minutes, well not every mediocre fast SSD or enclousure is fast enough. But you are right when you exclude a lot of cheaper SSDs and enclosures and see only TB3/4, especially the Sabrent drives/enclosures existence which are AWESOME (M1 Pro base model 512 GB "only" + 2TB sabrent drive is an amazing combo for sharing much data with other computers without paying too much apple premium)
Most 4K - 8K vidéos are 100 - 720 mbps, which max out at 90 MB/s. When editing there’s no speed/time difference whether the original files are on external disks or internal. Current SSD r/w at 550-2000 MB/s. CPU/GPU is the bottle neck. H.265 would save a lot of space. Newer SSD like Sandisk pro blade offers r/w 3000 MB/s with 16TB storage. Even editing 12 K footage whose data bit rate could be 1800 mbps or so, which is about 250 MB/s. The external SSDs are mostly an overkill. Importing to internal ssd is only a waste of time.
Let’s say you have a 50 second footage whose file size is 50 GB. And your internal SSD r/w 5000 MB/s, external SSD r/w 1000 MB/s. If SSD r/w speed matters, the rendering /export of the said footage should be about 1 second internally or 5 seconds externally. But if you try rendering off an internal SSD, it would take as much time as off an external SSD. The simplified conclusion is that when we could render a footage at 30X speed, that’s when we gain benefits processing footage on an internal SSD.
@@joyKafka again: MANY (!!!) SSDs and enclosures throttle the speed dramatically as one of my SSDs which throttle down to 60MB/s (basically 2x as fast as USB 2.0!) At this speed you notice a heavy performance drop (60MB/s vs 2000+…)
You can do this coz you are lucky you have this return option from Apple in your country. Thay is why you can do these experiments. You can waste as many units as you can, in the name of impulse buy mistake, size issue etc..
I use gaming laptop 15.6 inch now going back to evo models which r tiny is impossible they r tiny they maybe light weight but won't be as good as gaming ones
I mean you can literally walk into a Best Buy or Apple store and snag a base model. You just have to keep checking their stock. Any custom orders are going to be delayed regardless of a TH-camr buying & returning.
@@JordanPulmano oh cool Does this mean the 16inch isn't so big compared to the 14? Been difficult making a choice without having seen the 16 in real life
I use only blender and brush and I want to render, screen I not important to me when rendering 14 inch will struggle? even thous exact same spec as 16 inch forexample m2 max 14 inch 38 gpu 32 gb 1tb and same spec 16 inch .
@@harrison00xXx hahahah true , ı returned it back and got the 16inch version and boy , 14 inch should be only for light editing regardless of the spec .16 inch is th dream .
Great video. There are four reasons why I greatly prefer the 16” over the 14”: larger screen, larger trackpad, longer battery life, better speakers.
Amen, thats why the 14" "sucks"
Thermals are wayyy better though. I was going buy lg gram 16 but fancy editing a bit in 4k or Full HD. 16gb 16 MacBook or 32gb Lg gram wonder what's better for video editing etc
Better thermals and better fan on the 16". The 16" barely has the fans to come on as supposed to the 14", especially under heavy load like video rendering or gaming. The fans just come on so often on the 14".
Substantially less thermal throttling because of the larger chassis and larger fans as well. That’s a big one too
the reasons why am sticking to my 16 inch are THE SPEAKERS AND THE BATTERY . the battery of the 16 inch is RIDICULOUSLY GOOD ! I top up the battery every morning , spend the entire day in office on battery and finish a day of work with 60-65% battery left ! That's insane !
@IrlzinzTT in office speakers can be used when attending a virtual meeting. What kind of morron are you ?
@IrlzinzTT Who said because you use a feature you use it also in the office?
I also love the speakers and battery of the 16", its amazing. Doesn´t mean i blast them when im in the lecture hall but the amazing battery life helps a lot at long studying days without even thinking about charging.
Absolutely! If you don’t need the portability of the 14, the 16” is a no brainer. Plus the fans are massive on the 16 which results in less fan noise, critical for recording audio.
I would argue that the 16 inch is not too heavy. It is very well balanced which makes a big difference when carrying. I love mine and I take it out into the wild a lot.
Why would you get a laptop though if you dont care about portability
@@xstoofpeer For me it’s not so much portability but form factor. I like laptops. If I absolutely need portability, I just grab my MBA.
@@xstoofpeerThe problem for me with a desktop computer (even the 24 inch imac M1) is that you have to raise your head to look at the screen and therefore you look above the eye line, whereas with a laptop we look down a bit like we do when reading a book.
Great decision. As a student and no video editing work flow, I decide to pick base model that with 512 gb is enough for me. And since portability is not an issue, then why not bigger screen real estate~
Sounds like a solid choice for your needs!
This video summed up exactly how I felt about the 14 vs 16. I went with the 16 because I wanted the laptop to actually be a laptop and it is a side to my main windows desktop. But I want the ability to edit on the laptop or just use it on the couch or just not be forced to sit at the desk. I can use my laptop laying down. But I can’t lay down and use my desktop lol. I was going to order the 512 gig and do the same thing as you with a 2tb nvme USB C external enclosure. But then I changed my mind and actually got the one terabyte because if I install a bunch of applications I know I will have at least 300 gigs free on the internal. Then if I record a lot on a weekend trip. I can just use that internal drive to hold 300 gigs of projects it’s enough.
I want to get a MacBook Pro w/ M1 MAX 10/32 core chipset, 32Gb RAM, and 1Tb SSD.
Plan on doing photography editing, videography editing when I get a motorcycle, and school work as well as my ground school lessons to get my pilots license.
I am only 16, so getting a $3,099 + tax laptop is a BIG decision..
My question is, if I edit videos that may be around 100Gb on average, then once my memory fills up, can I delete those video edits and just restart with let’s say a new months of work?
@@swiift2k538 A fortnite kiddie with 16 years young, literally fresh from the soup is getting a M1 Max, ouch.
Oh wait, if anything of that "pilots license" thing is real your parents are anyways rich af get a maxxed out M2 Max
the thing is that once you get use to the 16inch screen, any size smaller than 16inch is too small for mobile working
It’s legit like this 😂. I got the 16 thought oh man I made a mistake. Returned it. Got 14. Week later returned went back to 16. Dumbest time of my life. I still have that thought in the back of my head like do I want a 14 again next generation? Shit no idk Ehhhh I can’t believe I still think that.
@@frostgodx How that return policy from Apple works? If you don't like the mac you can just return it?
@@breezefps yes no questions asked 14 days return policy. I personally don’t have an Apple Store nearby so I order online and return can be done via FedEx. Though if you have one near you can use that store for both buying/ordering and returns even from online order.
You can in fact on the 14th day initiate a return at 11:59pm on your account and then have 14 more days to drop it at FedEx or cancel the return. Very nice for those times you may not be sure about your purchase as this is a shit ton of money.
As a general reply when the M2 came out I did it again 😂 14” silver to 16” silver to 16” space grey to 14” silver to 16” space grey and kept it. Literally felt like I was having a god damn brain stroke.
@@frostgodx THATS SO COOL! So I can just go to a apple store and say “Hey, I decided to switch for the 14’ instead of the 16’ macbook, can you guys switch for me? And they will give the difference amount of cash of the 14’ to 16’?
At first I thought the 16" was big!!! But it just took a. While I love it wouldn't change mine for nothing!!!! It's perfect for me
I completely understand your decision I made the same choice as you and got the same model as you with no regrets!!
It’s such a tank! I love this laptop so much
I watched this video before getting a 14" and felt EXACTLY the same before AND after and it's hard to believe because I was so dead set. Coming back to say thanks I should have listened lol.
Pretty much the reasons i was going instantly for the 16" (as well because of the sound), the 14" looked already in the shop like a bigger netbook and i hated since ever the thin speaker grills, the 15 and 16" models always looked (and sounded) better. But battery and screen size were the main reasons for 16".
I even got away with the base model 16/512, with a Sabrent TB4 external drive its basically as fast as the internal SSD. I have mostly between 200-300GB free space on the internal SSD and this is enough for shorter videos as well, for bigger stuff i need the 2TB sabrent drive which is also handy with about 2500-2700MB/s.
Also, since i have to share sometimes hundreds of GB astrophotography data with a windows Desktop to stack/process with my preffered program (Deep Sky Stacker, Windows exclusive) i have to rely anyways very much on external drives.
Love my 16” M1 Pro 1tb ssd. Screen size is perfect.
I got that config as well!
@@BTMovieSecondChannel i dont want too wait for the m1 max and i dont want too buy it at a 3rd party website will the 16 mac boom pro m1 pro be good for 4k luts and effects music video editing thank you
@@bayareafactorbaby8913 Depends on whether you use Davinci Resolve or Final Cut Pro, or Premiere Pro. Premiere Pro is not as fast as the other two. I think 4K video with LUTs is just fine for a few layers of video, but not for too much. If editing heavily on 4K footage, I'd recommend waiting for the Max, it'll be worth it then.
@@bayareafactorbaby8913 If you use your iPhone as the camera, I think the M1 Pro will be sufficient.
Great video. In store the 16" looks massive compared to the 14" even though the specs are identical. I always use a wireless keyboard and mouse when I am not connected to my edit bay to avoid the trackpad issue. I want my workflow to stay identical wherever I edit. I usually pack a collapsable mac stand to have the MBP at eye level.
The specs aren’t identical. The base 16” is faster than the base 14”. If you want the 14” with the same spec as the base 16” you need to upgrade it for $300 more dollars and at that point why not spend the extra $200 left to get the 16”.
Maybe for content creators or software developers, the 16-inch is a better fit. I think for anyone else 14-inch is the perfect laptop. It's so portable and yet powerful.
I’m far from a professional, but the 16” big screen is AMAZING and the speakers?!?!?!?! The m1 air -> m2 pro 16” has been a great upgrade🙏
@@glitch5174 I had the 16 it was a great big screen experience, it’s just too heavy to carry around. 14 with a monitor serves me very well
@@extremelucky1 yeah I can definitely see that.. my biggest compromise was the size when it comes to portability.. apple hasn’t sent my trade in kit and I’m still contemplating if keeping the air is worth the giving back the $440 credit they gave me.. but since I have the 12.9 iPad Pro it’s not like I don’t have a portable solution
Has your opinion changed at all, especially with the M3 chips that fix a lot of the problems with the 14"?
Love my 16" M1 Max but for what my day job (lots of different locations, 4 wheel office) it is just too big. Ended up keeping it as my in home computer and added the M2 13 Air, with which I am totally impressed. Best of both worlds set up.
Ive always gotten the 13 inch because I am a computer Science major. I wanted something portable. But recently when the new pros came out I got the 14 and then a couple days later decided to get the 16 also. At first the 16 was very big but I got use to it. Now I am having issues deciding. I like both computers for different reasons... ugh
what did you decide on and why?
Battery life & screen real estate are the main reasons i got the 16" version (also a cs student)
woah bro where you took that pfp. that's a sick mountain view
im going to start my Computer Science bachelor after the summer and am trying to decide wether to get the 14" or the 16" model. For programming the 16" might be better because of the bigger screen size, so you can see more lines of code, I also like the bigger battery on the 16". The 14" is just easier to carry around. Still trying to make a decision....
@@zakaria1656 TLDR; If you will be working mostly with bigger screens, get the 14" for mobility. Otherwise get the bigger screen.
I know I have commented on something else here but I am a programmer for about 12 years with various experience in working on different laptop sizes. I'd say if you will only be working on the laptop, exclusively, then get the 16" model since it is more real estate and less "alt + tab" all the time which is really can get annoying for the work flow. you can see more lines of code if you of course choose a smaller font but for the long run its not so comfortable. I work with a 14" thinkpad and I only chose this one because at work I have two 24" monitors this laptop is connected to at the office.
When I am at home and without any extrnal screens its okay to work on this one for the day, but if it was like this for the entirety of college it would get me crazy. Good luck bud
Here I am after just ordering the 14 inch m2 max debating did I make the right choice thinking of that bigger screen
That's a great decision! You chose the one that would be more beneficial with your lifestyle and line of work. This video will definitely help people who are struggling to decide which one to pick! 😅
Thank you so much! I appreciate you checking out the video 😁
Love it!, Looking to get rid of my Macbook pro 13 inch 2018 and my PC for the 16inch Pro and have it as my only machine... decisions decisions!
That’s the move, I think you’ll be incredibly happy with the performance!
The one thing I don't like about the 16" is actually funny enough the trackpad. Because of the large size I notice the palms of my hands are on the trackpad when I'm writing I wish they would make a 15" just to get the weight and size a bit down. But as usual for me what I really would want is never an option 😂. So the best compromise has to be the 14"
Compromise? You mean a down grade
I agree. Bought 16” last year, I travel a lot and work remote. My work flow at work needs 4 different chrome tabs open which means the change from 14 to 16 was a game changer. Also during the summer I travel a lot and also work and the 500 nit to 1000 mit difference made a lot of difference when working at the beach. Sometimes it does get annoying the lack of portability but there’s always a inverse relation between portability vs productivity. I think the best set up for me is just the mac with a case not cover or pouch, and no mouse or track pad
Glad to hear you are liking the 16! 2 years later and I’m still happy with my decision. I’m currently flying 4 times a week and it’s been great having the larger size to work on flights
Your video was good and honest. Thanks. I brought the M1 Pr 16 16 w/ 1TB
Thanks for sharing and thanks for feeding Apple Outlet of returned laptops ... :)
Wow-
The first few comments you received on this video were rough…
Your experience with these machines is valuable to me.
Great video. I have had the 15 in for 10 years and have tried the 14in Pro. It feels really tiny and a long way away from my hands; the screen is noticeably smaller. I can see it being good for travelers, but I'm looking forward to trying the 16in.
Just canceled my order because/thanks to you... i am huge trackpad fan, it's a big part of my workflow as a music producer, i have even bought the magic trackpad to get the same feeling...
I just ordered a 16" max with 64gb ram and 32 gpu with 2 tb storage. My situation is different. It's replacing my 27" iMac and will be my main machine for video/photo editing and will live on my office desk connected to a monitor most of the time. Probably still overkill but I keep my computers for 7-8yrs and I feel it will be future proof for me. Also I shoot with a Canon r5 and have never touched 8k that it's capable but maybe in years to come that will be a thing so...
Im looking to get a 16 inch myself, my main reason for it is the thermals and the fact the base model has 2 more CPU / GPU cores.
You are a good story teller Jordan. Keep up the good work. Love from India ✌🏼
Bro can you please review the chair your sitting on! Please let us know what kinda mesh chair you’re on.
Thanks for this.
Do you use both screens at once ?
Yes absolutely this video helped me to go on with my decision of getting d M1 Pro 16”
Thanx
Right video at the right moment. Thanks man.
I finally decided to order one. Space grey 16 (top spec pro chip) whatever it’s called. 2tb 32 gb. After 21 years of life I’m going to get a new in box apple laptop 😅
Aye congrats man! That’s super exciting. You’re going to absolutely love working on it
I saw a couple like and wanted to correct. After the long ship time I went with a local 14 16/1tb with the full spec pro chip. I adore it and the unboxing was fantastic. Thanks for the love
So, size does matter after all...
Alas! It does…
Great video, I start to feeling the same of the 14, I'm thinking switch to the 16.
Great video. You got the big boy! Love your channel
Thank you so much!! I’m so glad I went back to it 🙌
@@JordanPulmano it is great when you are in the go to have more screen real estate if you can’t connect to a dedicated monitor. I’m still mad I got the smaller iPad Pro lol
I’m a medical student and incidentally got the same laptop as Jordan. I’m just wondering if I should upgrade to 32 GB RAM
How come you went with the m1 pro ?
Is that enough for you in terms of productivity ?
If you decide to upgrade your m1 Pro to 32 gb ram and 1 TB then you will almost spend just as much as you would spend on m1 max
Thanks for the video, keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for watching! I’m glad you found it helpful.
Hi bro, Working with the silver one outside, with the son, do you notice some type of lack of focus because of the britghness of the chasis, because sun reflects more in the silver one? What about that? I like both??
Hey! I haven’t really noticed anything like that. In very bright conditions it can be more difficult to see the screen like anything, but the Liquid Retina is brighter than my old laptop and definitely makes it easier.
There's a app that increases the brightness of your MBP. (It's legit)
Finally broke down and got one with Best Buys deal right now and also opted for the extra tb for $200. I know external can be had for half that but it is nice upfront to have the wiggle room. I edit in 1080 and convert so im not worried about 32gb or Max. My OG m1 mini does fine in braw 6k converted. Also, bought this bad boy with credit card points,.
Lets go!! You can get these for such a great price right now. I’m about to make a 1 year review but I still love it
@@JordanPulmano My 2015 mbp refuses to die but it was time😂. I was almost tempted by Da Vinci on ipad but we all know better. Take care, subscribed👍
Awesome video @jordanPulmano you think this year there will be a new 16inch model launch?
Where can I get that wallpaper for my 16”?
Ugh I can’t wait to get my 16” MBP. I’m just waiting for one to come in stock lol (wanna do that 0% Apple Card financing). Also I gotta say… a very good lookin guy + with good style + tech? I’m so glad I found your channel recently. :)
Thank you so much!! Btw if you’re looking for a fully maxed MacBook Pro, there should be some in stock at B&H photo and they also do 0%.
@@JordanPulmano 👀 thank you! 😊
I tried the apple financing but only qualified for $1500 and my credit is off the charts. I was wrecked.
@@ceeece how annoying!… if you haven’t yet, try B&H photo. They have a great card and they also have a ton of them in stock (including fully maxed options)
@@JordanPulmano Thanks. I went ahead and split my payment between two credit cards.
Great video and probably just the one that could help me decide! I bought both, the 14 and 16 ( base model of each ) and cannot decide which to keep. I have noticed that the 16" runs a tad bit warmer ( mid 40s C vs low 40s on the 14" ) and wondering if that is indeed normal. Been watching a lot of videos and reading on MR ( MacRumors ) and the general consensus appears to favor the 16" over the 14", especially in terms of operating temps!
Which one did you keep?
@@Ku6epIIe4eHe7Kept the 16". The larger screen, longer battery per charge, and better speakers had me opt for it. No regrets at all! That said, the current sale ( Costco, Best Buy etc ) on the 14" ($1599) is a steal of a buy!!
@@M5_Sonu picked up the base 16" for 2100 on best buy, amazing deal. Also the thermals are slightly hotter on the 16" in the start because fans don't ramp up on the 16" as early as the 14", but at peak performance 16" runs a lot cooler. Max tech has a bunch of videos on these.
@@Googlieguy Congrats! I kept the 16" as well! It's an amazing laptop and will serve you well for years! Enjoy!!
I went with the 14" because I already have a desktop computer and only need something for portability, and 14" is big enough.
Great call! How have you been liking the 14? I will say it is the perfect size for portability.
@@JordanPulmano I do like the 14, I don't find that I need a bigger display for video/photo, but I use my desktops 32" for gaming.
😮 I bought both the 14” and 16” and was going to return the 16” but I am thinking the same based on the big screen but I had the opposite with my hands and the 14” is so much easier to type on. So trying to figure out which to keep
Can you share where can we get the wallpaper ?? Thank you 😂🎉
Check out my other desk setup videos. I have links to it there 🫡
Helped a lot to make my own decision. Thanks :)
cool wallpaper ? where can we find it ?
I love that Wall paper where can I get it?
I am curious how much your main PC cost so we can compare your PC monster to a similar spec 16 inch M1. I suspect that a 16 inch m1 max plus a Studio display is cheaper that two full systems.
My 16" M1 Max works phenomenally
Great video. Sums up why I will buy the 16-inch. I got curious: Do the resting palm/s on the big trackpad not accidentally trigger anything, when one is typing? 😊 (EDIT: I have a 2014 15-inch MBP. It has a much smaller trackpad and neither of my palm is on it when I type. ☺)
There's a palm rejection feature so if your hand unconsciously touch it, it won't register.
I personally haven’t had any issues!
@@zakyfadhlurrohman2825 Oh, ok. Got it! ☺
@@JordanPulmano Great to hear! I will go for the 16-inch, then. ☺
Im mostly at home, and dont travel a lot. And will often be connected to a monitor. BUT i want to move around in my apartment as well. On the couch for example. And when i am other places than my home. I still want to be able to make music and video edit. And im scared that the 14" maybe just will feel to little to do that. The 14" inch is the nicest laptop. But the screen size and the performance and benefits of the 16 inch.. yea. So this is what im struggling with deciding😩
Same!! What did you end up getting?
Thinking about returning my 14inch for the 16inch. by the way, do you have a link to the wallpaper?
Hey Jordan, what brand is your desk chair?
Wait, you returned it after using it hard for 3 whole weeks?
"using it hard" is a bit of an overstatement lol
I get it, we really are nitpicking, there are people with bigger problems in the world, but when you spend so much money on a computer, over 5,000 in some models, you need it to be perfect, and spending that much money can make you regret and worry if you got the right model.
How did you return the 14" after unboxing and using it? Does the store take it back in that condition? Does it have a penalty?
Best Buy has a great return policy! Some products have a restocking fee of 10-15% but I don’t think there was one for this return.
@@JordanPulmano great to know.. Thanks. Wish there was something like this in India
what wallpaper ur using its very nice
Which is better Max or Pro
The base 14” model is on sale for 1,800, so it made the decision for me.
I was offered a second hand 14 and 16 inch m1 macbook pro 16 gb memory and 1 TB SSD for 1500$ and 1600$ and they look both like new really, no scratch at all ! I couldnt decide which one to keep and as they are both at such good price and state i kept them both … 😅 What do you think ? A bit crazy ? The 14 inch is more portable and i love the screen of the 16 inch !
I'm crazy like you! I own a ipad pro, a 16 in Macbook Pro, a M1 Macbook air and a 5k 27 Imac ... Sometimes i think i have a mental disease! ;P
@@jean-philipofarrell5014you do. It’s called the fool and his money.
Good video…well done!! 👏
A month ago I commented about how you saved me. I always wondered if I made the wrong choice doing the 16. The M2 came out and I got a 14” yesterday on release and I fucked up…😂
It’s going back and I’m going back to the 16” god damnit. I can deal with all the “worse” things on the 14 but no matter what the flow just isn’t there for the screen. It’s worth using a bigger heavier machine no matter the case unless you travel via plane a lot. No way around it just being straight up the best. I hate the weight, the size, and feel, the shape but my god it’s the best damn laptop on the market hands down and the king of the jungle. Honestly docked at my desk being used as an additional display the 14” can’t compete, on the table, on my lap on the couch, anywhere that I am the 16 is just so much better performing where it matters.
I was using my 14” all day then watched a Netflix movie on my 16” and it kinda just solidified my thought. Though again the 16” is annoyingly large once you start using it you just can’t go back.. you just can’t.
I will forget my love of the 14” size and feel and succumb to the 16” death and enjoy it everytime I remember how poor the screen real estate is on the 14 for workflow.
Ah man! A few months from now you will be so used to the 16 that it won’t even phase you
I did it again 😂 14” silver to 16” silver to 16” space grey to 14” silver to 16” space grey and kept it. Literally felt like I was having a god damn brain stroke. Idk what it is about this but I keep finding others on social media just like me so it’s a real thing and holy hell it’s terrible 😂 I’m glad it’s over
@@frostgodx hahaha a never ending cycle! Did you switch up the specs at all or just a size change?
@@JordanPulmano specs Everytime also what I finally ended with is 64gb 2TB max 38-core 🤷 😂
I'm confused between
Macbook pro m1 pro 14 inc 16gb 1tb ssd ( 10 CPU_16GPU ) 1910 $ OR
Macbook pro m1 pro 16 inc 16gb 512ss ( 10 CPU _16 GPU ) 1960 $ can you help
Will 16 RAM be enough for 4-5 years for normal usage without video editing or rendering at all? Also , my friend is using Macbook Pro 14 Base Model and when he opens 5-6 tabs or 7 in safari and nothing running in the background RAM usage is between 10-12.30 GB. Do you think it is normal or Macbook works like this .
I think more RAM is the most important thing to upgrade too. Cannot add RAM but can get more storage if needs be.
@@scottscottsdale7868 true said
What is your height? I think it has a lot do in regards liking or disliking a 16 inch
How so?
@@frostgodx Someone taller is stronger so the weight and the size is more manageable, in terms of screen size, a small person could perceive the 14 inch area as a taller person could perceive the 16 inch
For someone who have dozens of chrome tabs open, watching twitch streams, video editing, and maybe 1-2 more resource intensive app all open simultaneously, do you think 16gb would work or better to go for 32?
did you end up going with 16gb or 32?
@@luisrojasss7506 32. Glad I did, I don't think the 16 would've been a smart move at all.
Legit info right here lol this is me same exact stuff open all day everyday
Battery is king.
I want them to make the 16 not thinner but smaller form factor
I sent my 14 inch back and got the 16 inch
I forecast than in a few days we will have the video: why I returned my Macbook 16", sold my Custom PC and bought a Mac Studio...
I’m not going to lie and say that this thought hasn’t crossed my mind 😂
I came across this comment again, and your predictions were not too far off! haha
@@JordanPulmano thanks for the reply. best of lucks and keep us posted of your experience
Love your videos!!!
I have the option of getting a 14" , 1TB, 10CPU, 16GPU, 32 unified, 16 neural engine (10/16/32/16) new in box and sealed, or a base 16", 512GB, 10/16/16/16 from the actual Apple store for roughly the same price.
I am a bit confused about the throttle, thermos, and battery life implications. I want good battery, and I do love a smoother photo/video editing workflow, but I am not a professional (i.e., it's not my main income).
I am not sure if I go with the 14" from a private seller, or the Apple store. What would you do?
Just check the serial Nr nd stuff
nice video
Can’t decide whether to get 512 or 1TB of m1 pro 16”
1tb for future proofing and much faster SSD write/read speeds. If you don't have the budget for any other upgrade definitely go for more storage.
The benefits of editing video on the internal SSD is unnoticeable over external SSDs, which is easily 10 to 50 times the playback speed of most 4K video. The bottleneck is processing power and RAM.
NO!
Be aware, if you talk about fast (in long term when writing 50GB+ continous) SSDs and a TB3/4 SSD enclosure, YES!
But i have also 2 slower USB 3.1 enclosures (m.2!) which throttle intentional to avoid overheating, they throttle to 60MB/s down after 30-40GB written (with 700-800MB/s)
Also, what are you talking about? the processed prores 4-2-2 (HQ) data in the background are VERY space demanding, a 1GB video clip from my EOS R7 become within just a little color grading a 5-15GB project file!, so you have to write easily 5x and more data on the external SSD than your original videos size!
As said... my cheaper m.2 enclosures and SSDs are pretty unusable above about 50GB (project size)... so at best a 5-10GB video is fast enough imported/ready for fast editing/export. Considering modern 4k60 files etc easily eats up 5-10 GB in minutes, well not every mediocre fast SSD or enclousure is fast enough.
But you are right when you exclude a lot of cheaper SSDs and enclosures and see only TB3/4, especially the Sabrent drives/enclosures existence which are AWESOME (M1 Pro base model 512 GB "only" + 2TB sabrent drive is an amazing combo for sharing much data with other computers without paying too much apple premium)
Most 4K - 8K vidéos are 100 - 720 mbps, which max out at 90 MB/s. When editing there’s no speed/time difference whether the original files are on external disks or internal. Current SSD r/w at 550-2000 MB/s. CPU/GPU is the bottle neck. H.265 would save a lot of space.
Newer SSD like Sandisk pro blade offers r/w 3000 MB/s with 16TB storage. Even editing 12 K footage whose data bit rate could be 1800 mbps or so, which is about 250 MB/s. The external SSDs are mostly an overkill.
Importing to internal ssd is only a waste of time.
Let’s say you have a 50 second footage whose file size is 50 GB. And your internal SSD r/w 5000 MB/s, external SSD r/w 1000 MB/s. If SSD r/w speed matters, the rendering /export of the said footage should be about 1 second internally or 5 seconds externally. But if you try rendering off an internal SSD, it would take as much time as off an external SSD. The simplified conclusion is that when we could render a footage at 30X speed, that’s when we gain benefits processing footage on an internal SSD.
@@joyKafka again: MANY (!!!) SSDs and enclosures throttle the speed dramatically as one of my SSDs which throttle down to 60MB/s (basically 2x as fast as USB 2.0!)
At this speed you notice a heavy performance drop (60MB/s vs 2000+…)
His wallpaper is on fire, anyone know the Link of the photo?
Now I regret selling my 16” MacBook Pro
Give me back my 16” MacBook Pro please
Wallpaper?
You can do this coz you are lucky you have this return option from Apple in your country. Thay is why you can do these experiments. You can waste as many units as you can, in the name of impulse buy mistake, size issue etc..
And I’ve received a ton of messages from people who found this video helpful for their decision making. So I’d say it was worth it.
what a positive response to a subtly negative comment! i'm impressed!
what do you do for work?
I own a video production company that shoots commercial content, and I also work as a touring videographer in the music industry
i bought 14 inch few months ago, and tbh i wish i went for 16 i dont know what to do now
did you swap it? I‘m in the same situation, but the value loss is to much to sell it and buy the 16
Wallpaper link ?
I use gaming laptop 15.6 inch now going back to evo models which r tiny is impossible they r tiny they maybe light weight but won't be as good as gaming ones
All these TH-camr are buying and returning all these MacBooks yet I’m waiting months for 1 and it just got delayed for another month smh
I mean you can literally walk into a Best Buy or Apple store and snag a base model. You just have to keep checking their stock.
Any custom orders are going to be delayed regardless of a TH-camr buying & returning.
Omg is Apple going to hate me. I bought a 16” asked to return it for a 14” bought the 14” and like wait just kidding
What is your battery health in % ?
Currently at 268 cycles and 89%
@@JordanPulmano That is good. Thx.
Is it just me or is the 14inch same width size as the 13 inch?
I think you’re right because the bezel (bevel? Bezel?) is much bigger on the 13 than the 14
@@JordanPulmano oh cool
Does this mean the 16inch isn't so big compared to the 14? Been difficult making a choice without having seen the 16 in real life
I want the picture in your screen 😅
Check out my 2020 wallpapers video! There’s a link you can download it from.
@@JordanPulmano thank you
Go big or go home . 16 “ m1 max user here
Aye!! Good move for sure
I use only blender and brush and I want to render, screen I not important to me when rendering 14 inch will struggle? even thous exact same spec as 16 inch forexample m2 max 14 inch 38 gpu 32 gb 1tb and same spec 16 inch .
enjoy the M2 Max in 14" you can make some eggs on it under load
@@harrison00xXx hahahah true , ı returned it back and got the 16inch version and boy , 14 inch should be only for light editing regardless of the spec .16 inch is th dream .
😂😂😂😂 very true@@harrison00xXx
1st world problems
It’s really tough out here
I did the exact same thing today 😂😂😂
FFS!?? Scooby Doo is less confused than you.
But he always ends up solving the case now doesn’t he
more screen estate over everything
Earthquake ☺️
damn all that just to say its bigger , so I thought id waste the rest of the video to tell ya. lol lets collaborate on something
The original video was only 45 seconds, but then I thought "Lets get Degauzer real fired up" so I just kept talking.