r24r should be s tier, im sorry but its just too good. it never gets chaffed at all (even if the radar does) and with its fast acceleration paired with an 11.7 br on the mig23, its quite good. the 530d really should be in S too, i've been so sucessfull with it that i rarely dont use them in a match when i could've used a magic 2 instead, keep in mind this missile goes mach 5. the ER should be in s tier yes but for anyone who doesnt know, its actually a bit useless now. the platforms whose best radar missile is the ER are usually bad (mig29 for example) and other planes that are good with the ER on its plane have better options (ET, r77)
@@aceofthunder9868 hell no, the 530D is better than the aim-7F/M, it accelerates really quickly, it can pull 30G and has amazing range ( I think slightly more than the uhhhhh aim-7F but I'm not sure )
@@aceofthunder9868it does accelerate quite a bit faster than the AIM 7M and has better overall maneuverability. I believe it does lose energy more quickly, especially due to its maneuvering. The idea that the AIM 7 are better than the 530D is because a few years ago they did not add the distance/maneuverability table to the 530D (when they did it to all the other missiles), so the missile over corrected a lot even when aiming at long range shots, so it lacked energy and bled tons of speed. When it was corrected, it definitely became better Fun fact, the MICA is also the only ARH that lack those tables, which could help explain partly why it lacks range (plus being TVC, which do not work great in game, and having a hard cap at 50km)
Just a friendly advice, when you do comparison like this could you do it in proper order? I mean it's weird when you jump explaining 7C then jump to 7E, and go back to 7D again. Cheers 🍺
the only time i found the aim7c good is in air arcade. and that's because you get to reload them and that there's so much chaos to focus on for whoever you're launching at for them to know your missile ks going for them. in air rb there isn't enough hoing on at that br that an unaware player is too rare to come across. also in air arcade the only time it works is when you give it energy (climb to like 10km then do long range downwards launches)
Think of the sedjeel as a SARH version of the fakour. I don't recommend using it at close-medium range since it only pulls 18g so it doesn't turn very well. Personally I'd put it at C tier
@@elbrayan23xd47 Yeah it's really only meant for BVR but since you have to maintain lock it's pretty easy to counter. I don't think there's datalink either so you can't relock and maintain track(not sure about this last part, just going off memory)
Think of the sedjeel as a SARH version of the fakour. Personally I'd put it at C tier. Not maneuverable enough(18G) for close to medium range. Hard to use in BVR since you're pretty much maintaining lock at all times making your enemies rwr scream all the time. Don't think it has datalink so you cannot relock if fails to track. And it's a heavy missile.
R-27R missing targets is directly related to it being so slow that it cannot react properly to sudden manuvers after it burns out
Might be stupid but it uses the same control surfaces but is 100kg lighter shouldn’t it be more manoeuvrable
@@user-cs3qh1uv5y Not enough thrust to offset the manoeuver delay
@@user-cs3qh1uv5yAt the same speed, yes. However, it doesn't reach the same speeds as the ER.
Fox 2 is IR, Fox 1 is semi active
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Yeah that was my mistake
IRL the R27ER supports TWS so it’s like a fox 1.5
r24r should be s tier, im sorry but its just too good. it never gets chaffed at all (even if the radar does) and with its fast acceleration paired with an 11.7 br on the mig23, its quite good.
the 530d really should be in S too, i've been so sucessfull with it that i rarely dont use them in a match when i could've used a magic 2 instead, keep in mind this missile goes mach 5.
the ER should be in s tier yes but for anyone who doesnt know, its actually a bit useless now. the platforms whose best radar missile is the ER are usually bad (mig29 for example) and other planes that are good with the ER on its plane have better options (ET, r77)
Good point, but isn’t the 530D a bit worse than sparrows
@@aceofthunder9868 hell no, the 530D is better than the aim-7F/M, it accelerates really quickly, it can pull 30G and has amazing range ( I think slightly more than the uhhhhh aim-7F but I'm not sure )
@@aceofthunder9868it does accelerate quite a bit faster than the AIM 7M and has better overall maneuverability.
I believe it does lose energy more quickly, especially due to its maneuvering.
The idea that the AIM 7 are better than the 530D is because a few years ago they did not add the distance/maneuverability table to the 530D (when they did it to all the other missiles), so the missile over corrected a lot even when aiming at long range shots, so it lacked energy and bled tons of speed. When it was corrected, it definitely became better
Fun fact, the MICA is also the only ARH that lack those tables, which could help explain partly why it lacks range (plus being TVC, which do not work great in game, and having a hard cap at 50km)
Aim7c has actually less range than a aim9b yeah its shit even for 9.0
eh, last time i used it at 9.0 it was pretty ok
That's not really a problem because you'll be firing at targets who are flying towards and not away from you.
@Cloud_Stratus it doesnt pull either too
@KauppaKomissaari Oh absolutely, it's absolutely terrible. I've only gotten a few kills with it.
It causes me immense pain that you put the AIM-7M below the AIM-7F ; - ;
They are the same in game though?
Bro gained like 100 subs since the last time i saw ur channel keep it up dude
I appreciate the support man
Just a friendly advice, when you do comparison like this could you do it in proper order?
I mean it's weird when you jump explaining 7C then jump to 7E, and go back to 7D again.
Cheers 🍺
I kinda mix up the order to make it slightly more random, but still organized by nations. But I do get that its weird and can change order next time
Agree, but nice video overall
@@aceofthunder9868 I agree with you. The video would be more predictable if it was in order, keep it as it is.
You’ve doubled in subs since I last saw you and subscribed!
Thanks for the support man
Ive been using the r27r1 lately , after about 30 games I finally got a kill with itctoday
Shouldn't be that bad tho
You forgot the best one in range, The all mighty Sedjeel
Yeah mv
the only time i found the aim7c good is in air arcade. and that's because you get to reload them and that there's so much chaos to focus on for whoever you're launching at for them to know your missile ks going for them. in air rb there isn't enough hoing on at that br that an unaware player is too rare to come across. also in air arcade the only time it works is when you give it energy (climb to like 10km then do long range downwards launches)
can you do a fox 3 video?
And the sedjeel? On the f14iraf ?
Oh mb i forgot that one
Think of the sedjeel as a SARH version of the fakour. I don't recommend using it at close-medium range since it only pulls 18g so it doesn't turn very well. Personally I'd put it at C tier
@@WoozyK7 it turns like 20g and Burns longer than the 7m but the ting is that it lofts and wont proxy fuse Till 2.5 secs
When I use those missiles they are drunk they go where they want and they don't follow what I'm tracking with the radar
@@elbrayan23xd47 Yeah it's really only meant for BVR but since you have to maintain lock it's pretty easy to counter. I don't think there's datalink either so you can't relock and maintain track(not sure about this last part, just going off memory)
The 530D is faster then the aim7m it can go up to mach 5 not mach 4 and it pulls harder
Oh ok
You forgot the sedjil
You forgot the sedjeel
Think of the sedjeel as a SARH version of the fakour. Personally I'd put it at C tier. Not maneuverable enough(18G) for close to medium range. Hard to use in BVR since you're pretty much maintaining lock at all times making your enemies rwr scream all the time. Don't think it has datalink so you cannot relock if fails to track. And it's a heavy missile.
I know how it works. Bro just forgot it
Radar missile Nerd ahh guy
The matra 530 isn't that bad at 10.0 or 10.7. At higher BR it is terrible.
True
aim-7f and m being A tier is a joke
Can u specify why
Fox 2 ar IR mate, great video otherwise
Nice vid but it’s a fox 1
Not to be stingy but saying this before anyone else does
@@alejandrapena8557 Oh shoot mb, I have to redo the thumbnail now bruh
But it’s still a good vid
Also really nice redoing the thumbnail so quick you really care about the quality of you vids 🙂