Merry Christmas. I've got the exact same machine here in the uk. I had the exact same problems. Under warranty I had the belt tensioner fix , which is working well. Absolute peach of a machine! Great review fella.
Still love the machine but no dealer in my area so I was forced to repair myself , I just wanted to also say it's nice to hear from you guys over the lets say pond from me LOL
Great review. Really been kicking around one of these for a year. Had a walk behind and it was a pain and my back can't take manually swinging it back and forth.
love your channel. very informative when it comes to stump grinding. can't wait for more of your videos. we've been looking at adding to stump grinding to our micro nitch of business's. I've been researching it for over a year know and with your channel were definatly going into this. no one here is stump grinding. I wanted to know what you think of the belt driven vs hydrostatic grinders. looking at the bandit and the toro Stx 38 would love to here your insight
@@mustangrebuilder yes mechanically inclined, I've got a 1500 sq ft shop were working out of. also looking at a alpine rhino wheel for the rocky soil we have out here . any thoughts on it
Thank you for the info on this machine. Very helpful! I have about 200hrs on my machine...I've got the old tensioner...going to get the upgrade hopefully. My question is about the hydraulic belt squeal. How do you adjust the hydro belt ...I cant get a wrench in there to move the motor?
You might want to check out the Power Twist or Nu-T-Link belts from Fenner Drives; it might help you solve the belt problems. These link V-belts are replacements (they advertise it as a permanent replacement) that are adjustable in length so you don't have to deal with belts being too long or too short. And if your belt is too long just take out a few links, and if it's too short just add some in. Most people in woodworking have praised it as long as they use it properly, and I see no reason why they wouldn't work here either.
‘It’s a great machine!” you say. Watching the review, can’t disagree. What is really frustrating in this the 21st century, manufacturers and dealers alike only want the money, they do not volunteer or provide service to the buyer. The machine was still in warranty, there was a problem and they charged for a fault modification. One month ago I bought a mini excavator that came with three buckets. At the same time I ordered other items and was told they were in stock. When the excavator was delivered one bucket was missing and a grease nipple and bush was also missing. One ram rod was rusty and a flat battery…plus more. I was told, the missing bush for the accessory ordered was an optional extra and I had to buy it separately. I was not told that at point of sale. The dealer didn’t have one in stock and I had to have one made. They delivered the wrong ram from a completely different manufacturer and far too large…….I could go on and on. For the smart asses itching to press keys to say I should have sent the digger back……when you have work for it….you press on. The bush was low cost in real terms but the principal is the key. If the dealer continues to refuse to reimburse me, it will go through legal process, my main occupation for the last thirty years. Everywhere it seems, no one will accept responsibility and point the blame to others. Running a business used to be great fun….that my friends no longer applies.
Hello there Mustang Rebuilder how you doing great and I'm great videos love what you're putting out there for us to learn from. Got a question I'm new I'm trying to learn something new everyday with stump grinding. need to change some hydraulic hoses and my question is after you change them do you need to bleed the system? And if so is it difficult to do? Once again thanks and love what you're putting out there for us to learn from. Great day to you
I have changed so many lines out in the field and typically have never had to bleed them just replace lost fluid into tank and dont run it low and you could always just crack a line to purge if you have to and boy it will in two seconds purge LOL
@@mustangrebuilder thanks for the answer and also such a quick response as I know you are one busy man. Always watching your videos always learning something new my brother you got a beautiful Channel out there on TH-cam and you're well known in our stump grinder group on Facebook. And as you say God bless so I say according to the holy scriptures halleluYahuah praise to the Creator for all the help he sends along the way you are a great help my brother great day to you...😊😉
I was wondering if the belt issues that is being fixed with the idler redesign may be caused by the tooth spacing. the 90 degree rotation between tooth strikes on the stump will cause a serious hammering effect and constant shock load on the drive belts. Where a grinder with more teeth would be a more even load.
@@mustangrebuilder Where they trying to take the slack out by pulling up on the inside of the belt from the top or trying to tension the belt using the bottom tight side of the belt
Im having a issue with the head not rotating like it should. I finished a stump then started another one and the head started not to swing side to side. Any ideas.
First unhook the ram ( just one pin ) then try to rotate the unit by hand , they had a problem with the swing platform on the very first units and had a n update ...call Bandit after you try the unpin and ask for Eliot in parts and he will guide you with the info .you need the serial number when you call for your grinder
Thanks for the videos, I have subscribed. What about the clutch? also how do you adjust the tracks, for the life of us we cannot figure out how to adjust them
@@mustangrebuilder how did making the video go? Also, why did you put on the bandit fix when you had temporarily fixed it? why did you not leave it with the bracket below. Thats what I did and I am wondering why I need to change it with the actual Bandit fix
@@ABCStumpRemoval If you are happy with your fix its all good the reason I did it is !!! no one would confess to the problem after I called the factory until I asked a parts guy how could 3 new belts not work ???? and then he gave up the info and I spoke to an engineer who said they were working out a fix . I was under warranty and they still charged me for the solution kit and after my brother called them back for me ( he has more finesse than I do ) they refunded me for the kit , I have no dealer near me so I put it on as per their PDF file they sent me LOL
I had to change the tension on my machine after 300 hours finding out it was not that great. Stump grinders, specially the smaller models, mine is 38 hp petrol. have to be modified. that's my experience...
Also, went through three belts before they got the tensioner right. I have a problem with the nuts wearing down on the green teeth, then I have to have them cut off. Have you had any issues with that?
@@bobbyherrington7233 Never have had that problem since I rotate them often and also buy the nuts by the pound at a supply house and replace at firsts signs of wear when rotating teeth , the teeth that are on my big machine I have had problems if not rotated and have had to use a vise grip thats why I carry spare nuts
Having holes in the muffler with the EFI can cause the engine to throw codes in some cases because it introduces oxygen into the exhaust leading to rich running.
amzn.to/3GTtpGS amzn.to/47cmraE amzn.to/3TDuudF please ck to see which one you need the gates are the best but I used to carry the D&D as a spare and I hope you have the modified belt tensioner ...look around my zt1844 videos
2013 bandit 2550 Kohler 35hp gas engine model # CH-980 this it's 2nd engine it was a 38hp Kohler discontinued now. Haven't made any with this machine yet. I've had it almost 2 years. Been stumping for 30+ years. Used to making $700-$1000day/for 6days weeks. I wish they would take the lawnmower engine off and a put Diesel on it. Kohler won't back up their engines. This has been the most miserable 2years of my life
Here's the problem they discontinued the gas model real fast , the fuel tank and Hydraulic tank are one unit .... the later separated them and the have an air gap now ..... the gas gets so hot that it boils the fuel due to the heat from the Hydraulics and that was back in 2013
Did you have issues with your belt? My machine is less than a year old and only 60 hours on it and I’m on my 3rd belt. They keep saying they have an issue with the belts.
Mustang Rebuilder yes but the belt was incorrect. It originally didn’t have the covers to cover the hole so debri got in and destroyed the belt. They sent a replacement belt and added the covers but the belt wasn’t the correct belt. Was on the phone with the engineers and they had to get a new company design a new belt. Waiting for the new belt to arrive. They are also sending a new tensioning system as well since it’s fully tensioned to the max but the belt had slack before ripping again.
@@johnl7690 engineers Hmmm did you know the parts guys were engineers there LOL no really and I had to pry it out of them that there was a problem! I was scheduled to go to the factory in August to meet them but this corvet 19 thing has put that on hold
Okay thanks im gonna post it up once i get it, thank you for this post ive put way too many belts on this machine and was getting frustrated I was so happy to see this repair.
I bought it 1 year ago and it has 45 hours on it. It just started at once. I will check that out. Thank you very much.
Merry Christmas. I've got the exact same machine here in the uk. I had the exact same problems. Under warranty I had the belt tensioner fix , which is working well. Absolute peach of a machine! Great review fella.
Still love the machine but no dealer in my area so I was forced to repair myself , I just wanted to also say it's nice to hear from you guys over the lets say pond from me LOL
Great review Adam, God bless.
Great review. Really been kicking around one of these for a year. Had a walk behind and it was a pain and my back can't take manually swinging it back and forth.
I find this machine the best bang for the buck out there or you can buy an older Vermeer 252
@@mustangrebuilder do you like it better than a 252? What's the sweep width?
@@651journey sweep is about 40 ish ... buy the sg40 not the zt ..they fixed a lot of issues
Awesome video brother thank you!! Great tips
You bet!
Great honest review. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
love your channel. very informative when it comes to stump grinding. can't wait for more of your videos. we've been looking at adding to stump grinding to our micro nitch of business's. I've been researching it for over a year know and with your channel were definatly going into this. no one here is stump grinding. I wanted to know what you think of the belt driven vs hydrostatic grinders. looking at the bandit and the toro Stx 38 would love to here your insight
Are you mechanically inclined because you will have to adjust the belts every few weeks if you grind a lot
@@mustangrebuilder yes mechanically inclined, I've got a 1500 sq ft shop were working out of. also looking at a alpine rhino wheel for the rocky soil we have out here . any thoughts on it
Seen a guy using a bandit he had a blade on the back pretty neat
Thank you for the info on this machine. Very helpful! I have about 200hrs on my machine...I've got the old tensioner...going to get the upgrade hopefully. My question is about the hydraulic belt squeal. How do you adjust the hydro belt ...I cant get a wrench in there to move the motor?
I made a video the other day about it and will post this week
Great video! I just bought one with the 38Hp motor. Looking forward to working with this grinder.
If you need anything let me know
@@mustangrebuilder Hey! Thank You ... I appreciate this and all of your help so far.
@@mustangrebuilder im at glmtreez@gmail.com thank you
What a great vid my friend
Thank you kindly
You might want to check out the Power Twist or Nu-T-Link belts from Fenner Drives; it might help you solve the belt problems. These link V-belts are replacements (they advertise it as a permanent replacement) that are adjustable in length so you don't have to deal with belts being too long or too short. And if your belt is too long just take out a few links, and if it's too short just add some in. Most people in woodworking have praised it as long as they use it properly, and I see no reason why they wouldn't work here either.
Thanks I will look into it
‘It’s a great machine!” you say. Watching the review, can’t disagree. What is really frustrating in this the 21st century, manufacturers and dealers alike only want the money, they do not volunteer or provide service to the buyer. The machine was still in warranty, there was a problem and they charged for a fault modification.
One month ago I bought a mini excavator that came with three buckets. At the same time I ordered other items and was told they were in stock. When the excavator was delivered one bucket was missing and a grease nipple and bush was also missing.
One ram rod was rusty and a flat battery…plus more.
I was told, the missing bush for the accessory ordered was an optional extra and I had to buy it separately. I was not told that at point of sale. The dealer didn’t have one in stock and I had to have one made.
They delivered the wrong ram from a completely different manufacturer and far too large…….I could go on and on.
For the smart asses itching to press keys to say I should have sent the digger back……when you have work for it….you press on.
The bush was low cost in real terms but the principal is the key. If the dealer continues to refuse to reimburse me, it will go through legal process, my main occupation for the last thirty years.
Everywhere it seems, no one will accept responsibility and point the blame to others.
Running a business used to be great fun….that my friends no longer applies.
You hit the nail on the head
Hello there Mustang Rebuilder how you doing great and I'm great videos love what you're putting out there for us to learn from. Got a question I'm new I'm trying to learn something new everyday with stump grinding. need to change some hydraulic hoses and my question is after you change them do you need to bleed the system? And if so is it difficult to do? Once again thanks and love what you're putting out there for us to learn from. Great day to you
I have changed so many lines out in the field and typically have never had to bleed them just replace lost fluid into tank and dont run it low and you could always just crack a line to purge if you have to and boy it will in two seconds purge LOL
@@mustangrebuilder thanks for the answer and also such a quick response as I know you are one busy man. Always watching your videos always learning something new my brother you got a beautiful Channel out there on TH-cam and you're well known in our stump grinder group on Facebook. And as you say God bless so I say according to the holy scriptures halleluYahuah praise to the Creator for all the help he sends along the way you are a great help my brother great day to you...😊😉
@@rickcunningham4747 You made my day my friend
@@mustangrebuilder I understand soon you're passing on your business, with success to you and all that you do. 😊😉
I was wondering if the belt issues that is being fixed with the idler redesign may be caused by the tooth spacing. the 90 degree rotation between tooth strikes on the stump will cause a serious hammering effect and constant shock load on the drive belts. Where a grinder with more teeth would be a more even load.
with the speed of rotation you feel no shock load ..what it was is the use of an idler against the belt in the wrong direction
@@mustangrebuilder Where they trying to take the slack out by pulling up on the inside of the belt from the top or trying to tension the belt using the bottom tight side of the belt
Good videos ! I have a question how much does this machine cost new ?
Depends on dealer the new SG40 is 20 to 21K
Im having a issue with the head not rotating like it should. I finished a stump then started another one and the head started not to swing side to side. Any ideas.
First unhook the ram ( just one pin ) then try to rotate the unit by hand , they had a problem with the swing platform on the very first units and had a n update ...call Bandit after you try the unpin and ask for Eliot in parts and he will guide you with the info .you need the serial number when you call for your grinder
Hello, would you recommend this machine as my first unit to start doing grinding?
Buy only the new SG40 version of this machine because all the bugs are fixed
Thanks for the videos, I have subscribed. What about the clutch? also how do you adjust the tracks, for the life of us we cannot figure out how to adjust them
Good question! ... let me see if I can make a video on the the tracks for you
@@mustangrebuilder how did making the video go? Also, why did you put on the bandit fix when you had temporarily fixed it? why did you not leave it with the bracket below. Thats what I did and I am wondering why I need to change it with the actual Bandit fix
@@ABCStumpRemoval If you are happy with your fix its all good the reason I did it is !!! no one would confess to the problem after I called the factory until I asked a parts guy how could 3 new belts not work ???? and then he gave up the info and I spoke to an engineer who said they were working out a fix . I was under warranty and they still charged me for the solution kit and after my brother called them back for me ( he has more finesse than I do ) they refunded me for the kit , I have no dealer near me so I put it on as per their PDF file they sent me LOL
I had to change the tension on my machine after 300 hours finding out it was not that great. Stump grinders, specially the smaller models, mine is 38 hp petrol. have to be modified. that's my experience...
Do you still have the part number for that kit to fix the tensioner?
Part # 500-0002-24
Can you post a video on how to adjust the belts and tracks to the correct tension?
Yes I will make a follow up video
New video is up today ...hope it helps
@@mustangrebuilder Can you post a link to that video? Thanks for putting up the videos, they're great!
th-cam.com/video/Vd_2428Yy5E/w-d-xo.html
How much for that machine?
Hi great info...maybe I missed it but did you have a gates part number for this belt
Thanks
th-cam.com/video/qpKaB7EOPcE/w-d-xo.html
Cheers
Best info out there
Does working on the grinder doing maintenance yourself void warrenty?
Thats a good ? but I dont have a dealer so I am forced to do it and most warranties are not worth the paper they are written on
I thinking about buying one that got 65 hour on it do you think and what should I look for
Look for the sg40 not the zt ... the sg40 is an updated machine the zt had belt issues and sg40 has the belts system updated
I went through two mufflers, they gave me one with a different design today, I’m hoping it holds up.
Also, went through three belts before they got the tensioner right. I have a problem with the nuts wearing down on the green teeth, then I have to have them cut off. Have you had any issues with that?
@@bobbyherrington7233 Never have had that problem since I rotate them often and also buy the nuts by the pound at a supply house and replace at firsts signs of wear when rotating teeth , the teeth that are on my big machine I have had problems if not rotated and have had to use a vise grip thats why I carry spare nuts
Mustang Rebuilder, thanks for the tip. Was thinking I might have to buy some those nuts in bulk.
Having holes in the muffler with the EFI can cause the engine to throw codes in some cases because it introduces oxygen into the exhaust leading to rich running.
Do you have the information about the Belt please and thank you very much for the information.
amzn.to/3GTtpGS amzn.to/47cmraE amzn.to/3TDuudF please ck to see which one you need the gates are the best but I used to carry the D&D as a spare and I hope you have the modified belt tensioner ...look around my zt1844 videos
Sir how much should we charge extra for cleaning ? And how many people usually work doing stump grinding as a screw ?
one man grinding and a two man if clean up ... charge 2x the price if you haul off chips
@@mustangrebuilder alright thanks
2013 bandit 2550 Kohler 35hp gas engine model # CH-980 this it's 2nd engine it was a 38hp Kohler discontinued now. Haven't made any with this machine yet. I've had it almost 2 years. Been stumping for 30+ years. Used to making $700-$1000day/for 6days weeks. I wish they would take the lawnmower engine off and a put Diesel on it. Kohler won't back up their engines. This has been the most miserable 2years of my life
Here's the problem they discontinued the gas model real fast , the fuel tank and Hydraulic tank are one unit .... the later separated them and the have an air gap now ..... the gas gets so hot that it boils the fuel due to the heat from the Hydraulics and that was back in 2013
How much is that machine brand new ? And how much is a good price for a used one ?
Buy the new one sg40 20k
@@mustangrebuilder thank you
what part number is the wheel bearing? and where u got it from from?
where are you located
@@mustangrebuilder katy texas
@@TheWillied02 send me an email Mustangrebuilder@gmail.com and I will send you pictures of the box and where I bought them
Did you have issues with your belt? My machine is less than a year old and only 60 hours on it and I’m on my 3rd belt. They keep saying they have an issue with the belts.
do you have the updated tension system
Mustang Rebuilder yes but the belt was incorrect. It originally didn’t have the covers to cover the hole so debri got in and destroyed the belt. They sent a replacement belt and added the covers but the belt wasn’t the correct belt. Was on the phone with the engineers and they had to get a new company design a new belt. Waiting for the new belt to arrive. They are also sending a new tensioning system as well since it’s fully tensioned to the max but the belt had slack before ripping again.
@@johnl7690 engineers Hmmm did you know the parts guys were engineers there LOL no really and I had to pry it out of them that there was a problem! I was scheduled to go to the factory in August to meet them but this corvet 19 thing has put that on hold
Mustang Rebuilder wow that’s funny! I just saw the SG-40 wow complete new belt set up
Mustang Rebuilder just got off the phone with bandit. They are going to build us the new SG40 to replace our machine.
Hello sir can you please provide pary number for that upgraded tensioner kit .thank you
Call Bandit direct ask for Eliot in parts and if you send me your email I will send you the PDF file on how to install it Mustangrebuilder@gmail,com
Okay thanks im gonna post it up once i get it, thank you for this post ive put way too many belts on this machine and was getting frustrated
I was so happy to see this repair.
send email to me for pdf
Are the new ones fixed?
New ones are called sg40
@@mustangrebuilder THANKS
Can you please reach out to me so i can get that PDF file off of you? my dealer has no clue it exists and isnt helpful.
send me an email mustangrebuilder@gmail.com and I will sent it to you
How much for that machine?
they were 17k new but that model has been changed to a sg40 and around 23k
@@mustangrebuilder thanks for getting back with me!