ASUS could have made a really fantastic convertible with the 13 inch all rounded only if it had a better refresh rate. They could have done 120, 90, 75? I dont know, 60hz is not justified in 2024. Atleast I dont see a convertible in the market that packs a good GPU like this and has a high refresh rate, Maybe its hard to get high refresh rate OLED screens? I believe there are a lot of mac users out there who do want to carry a 2nd device for gaming and something like this with heigher refresh rate will check all boxes.
I have the P16 and it is a great laptop. That 4k oled is fantastic and color accurate and supports touch. It's performance is next level and has a great selection of ports. The matt black coating is the least fingerprint magnet coating you can currently get and looks great. It has an excellent keybord and one of the best non haptic trackpads you will find. It runs very cool for a 4060 and fan noise is very tolerable. It's speakers are excellent and it's pricing at 1899 is exceptional. Looking at you Dell XPS, Samsung book ultra even Mac Book Pro. As for ram you get fast ddr5x at 32 gigs standard and can upgrade to 64. It's only flaws is it should be haptic and 120 htz. If you need it get the g16, but you will go from 4k to 2.5 k and lose the dial pad and the discrete looks. Even the MacBook Pro has it's faults, no oled,the notch.no type A ports, no wifi 7 and is very expensive to get 32 gigs of ram and 1tb storage and you cant game on it. Sometimes you need to look at the overall package. Good review Matthew and I agree the PX13 is a feat of engineering. If you change the settings to whisper mode you will achieve much better battery life on most operations.
@@shalveenkumar2142 The screen won't wobble unless you type with a lot of force. The hinges seem secure and strong, but not as strong as Lenovo's yoga line where the hinge encompasses a greater portion of the laptop screen's total length.
I'm not going to say the 60Hz refresh rate isn't a bummer, but I still love my base model PX13. Last week I had it running Microsoft Office apps, Teams, Edge, Encompass (bloated loan origination software), MongoDB Server, IIS, and Visual Studio debugging a large project. The fans turned off because my PX13 wasn't bothered by that workload at all ... and I fell in love with it. 🤣 To have that kind of performance along with 2-in-1 functionality and a good time gaming now and then is peak x86-64.
Hi, I'd like buy this laptop, something like this, visual studio, compilation, 5 browsers and 100 browser tabs, operations IT, client db, VPN, etc, what do you think, is enough?
@@DanielMIT-yd4bu It has 32gb of DDR5 ram, I think it could handle all of that. If not, you can always return it provided you bought it from an american retailer like Best Buy.
Finally Windows laptops are taking front facing speakers seriously. 5:34 I wonder if the webcams look so different because of the positioning and the light. The 16 looks better in my opinion.
I love my PX13 (I have the 4050 version). The industrial design and build quality is on a par with Apple and Surface. Bought it mainly for work, but played Trek to Yomi (free with Prime rn fwiw) last night on Epic settings. Even at just 1080p, it looked beautiful, and I'm pretty sure you could play at the native 3k res.
@@scottie10014 I agree, I own that version as well. It's massive upgrade over 5500u & mx450. I love the build quality and the lightweight to go along with the outstanding performance, battery life has been a non-issue for me
@@rifaakhan5267 Honestly I'm on charge most to the time, but when I'm not for everyday tasks, like browsing, Word, TH-cam, etc. around 8-9+. Once you start doing things like video calls you tend to eat battery and gaming should only be done on charge for obvious reasons
@@arunk2710 Pretty good (up to 9hrs) if you're just doing light browsing or work in something like Word or Excel. If you're doing a lot of video calls, you'll burn through the battery more quickly. When it comes to gaming, you should always be plugged in, because you battery will not last long at, but that's true of any gaming-capable PC.
I appreciate that even in your sponsored videos, you call out the laptops' weaknesses. The lack of 120hz as an option is unforgivable. So a "creator" doesn't do research on the internet and isn't scrolling constantly? Even if he or she isn't gaming, anyone paying this much for a laptop with these components, who will likely hold onto the device for multiple years, should be able to choose a panel as good as the G14 or G16 has. Almost everything else is so great, especially about the P16. You get full 100w to the 4070. You get this awesome new processor from AMD. You get a properly cooled system in a compact design, that is light weight, with a great webcam and with good battery life. You even get all the ports. It's just -- you have a sub-400 nit display that has the same refresh rate as the original iPhone released in 2007.....
You're welcome and I totally agree it should have a 120hz panel at the very least. Hopefully ASUS makes the change for the next iteration. AS for the OLED display there's not too many super bright OLED displays on 16inch laptops YET. It requires a bit more power and with it comes more heat. They would have to do a tandem oled display to make it happen and probably not that accessible for ASUS at the moment.
I think that people dont realize that the reason it' 60hz is because of the screen resolution, oled pannels, and the color accuracy. All of those are very limiting factors. At 144hz They could do 2 at the same time, but 3? Not at this price range (and its already expensive)
The S 16 and G16 manage to do all 3 at a much cheaper price 🙄. They're still high res screens, but not quite as high, however, that would minimally impact battery life outside of gaming.
Another great comparison, thanks Matt. We have a house full of ASUS products (laptop, desktop, even the ProArt 2K monitor I'm watching this on) so to say I'm fan would be an understatement. That PX13 looks like it would be a good replacement for our five-year-old VivoBook when it finally gives up the ghost.
it’s the 75W tgp that’s the deal breaker for the px13…a 4k oled with that level of color accuracy, at 60Hz,at this price point is valid imo. Prolly gonna go for the p16 as a substitute to the Zephyrus g16. I really need 32 gigs of ram, and nothing over a 4060/70, which the Zephyrus doesn’t offer..
@matthew moniz i own the p16 and is a great laptop of course i changed my settings for battery life but the 60hz screen is really not that bad it is smoother than most 60hz display asus says its still has the 0.2ms response time but overall its nice and i would recommend it good comparsion btw
You probably need something with a dedicated GPU. I would wait to see laptops with the recently released Intel Lunar Lake, as you get better autonomy and better onboard graphics, too. And it will run more silent. We seem to have got to the x86 moment of mostly silent machines that could be charged every other day or so.
60Hz is too low for refresh rate, 120 is overkill. it should be between 75 and 90 in my opinion. You get a noticeable smoother experience without a great hit on battery life.
Matthew youre lefthanded?))) 7:31 shocked... or this is mirrored shot? i am lefty, but cant use mouse in the left hand :( that why i snck in FPS games :)
Can't get over the 2230 slot in the PX13. While a 2280 slot might've been impossible to fit, a second 2230 would've been nice in a "creator" laptop. And LPCAMM2 modules are probably what the slim laptop world needs right now. Also learning the PX13 has a 60Hz display is also a bit of a downer.
No, it's because a screen like that doesn't even exist. This is for photo and video editing. It has a professional 4k OLED panel, capable of being used for proper color grading. They don't make a panel like that with 120hz.
What are the GPU modes shown at 4:26? Do you need to restart the laptop when you toggle between them? Does the laptop have a MUX switch and Optimus Advanced?
A real bummer in 2024 going towards 2025 imo. I don't undersand why they did that and then they gave the S16 "non creator" laptop 120Hz. I was really tempted by the PX13, but the 60Hz display and the battery life really don't justify the full price you need to pay at the moment.
@@Link10210 i partially agree, but you can feel the smoothness difference between 60hz and 120hz also by scrolling a web page, plus, since the PX13 is a 2 in 1, 120Hz would have helped with the feedback from the pen while drawing or taking notes
Great review,. I am looking for a new laptop to replace my yoga. I am more into productivity and watching videos- no gaming. I have my laptop connected to an AOC monitor with a 144hz refresh rate so if i am not mistaken that monitor takes the place of teh oled and does fine even if gaming, right?
How does this compare to the studiobook pro 16 w7604? Torn between the two. I like the pro 16 for the 180 degree hinge, the 120hz , and the haptic trackpad, but surely this model performs better?
Great and well-produced review - thanks a lot! The P16 is for sure my next laptop - I love the clean aesthetics combined good screen/keyboard/performance and the sound/mic/webcam are much better than my current laptop. I am not a gamer, so 60Hz refresh isn't much of an issue for me.
I have an old laptop used for communication/web connected to camera/mic/headphone amp in my WFH setup. It is starting to show its significant age, so I will replace it with my current LG Gram 17, and get the P16 as my new daily driver and for working when away from home (visual effects). I connect remotely to a server at work, so not a lot of need for performance - main need is screen/keyboard/cam/mic.
I just bought the 13" with a 4060 to replace a big Threadripper game development tower and it's doing great so far. 60hz isn't a big of a deal as it seems, I'm going to update my monitors pretty soon and will go 120hz, I don't really need it on the tiny laptop screen. The only thing that drives me nuts is when swiping between desktops, the screen animation pauses for 300 ms when I release the touchpad, then resumes the animations. Adjusting the performance settings doesn't seem to fix it either, it's driving me bonkers.
I never understood the logic of making a larger version of a laptop that is originally a 2 in 1 but not making the larger version 2 in 1 as well... like, why? Especially a laptop for creators, why? What is so wrong with a 16 inch 2 in 1?
he just bought the p16 my first ProArt i don't know how to use the dial pad i feel like it doesn't work. the led on the right of the trackpad doesn't light up, how do i activate it please?
i want a laptop for mostly remote connect to my work computer for work (microsoft excel/pdf/word stuff) and discord talking and streaming videos with my gf. I feel like these would be overkill. Any recommendations?
Honestly, I am waiting for the Intel Lunar Lake versions. Those seem to have better graphics and run considerably more silent. And you get a better battery life, too.
Why did they remove one USBC 40gbs capability from the 16inch version, the 13 inch has both USBC ports at 40gbs but on the 16 only one? That's an odd thing to do for a creator laptop, definitely need both of those at 40gbs , that's a deal breaker for sure.
the 16 not folding completely makes the stylus pretty useless, they even removed the stylus compatability with the trackpad, would be a no-brainer otherwise
nice but my 13"th Pro Art studio book R24 multicore is about 30 percent higher and about 10% higher timespy (13980hx and Ada 3000) and has a dedicated dialpad and stylus support. Not sure downgrading would make sense except for people travelling a lot.
I am a musician, existing in professional monitoring headphones, and would happily trade in the pointless speakers for more RAM and keyboard space. Unfortunately, almost everything with good specs now has to include the stupid speakers :(
I love everything about the PX13 but I don't care for the 60hz display. I don't play many games but I know that spending lots of time traveling and working that a 120hz panel would be more enjoyable. That's unfortunate.
I wish they did a 14” instead of 13 with a 4070. Not sure why they even do a 13” anymore, just too small for me. Especially with the higher resolution.
@@MatthewMoniz Hello again, so I've been using p16 for a week and I've edited video and graphics with Photoshop and Capcat, as well as all the daily work. It is a very good laptop, very powerful and it has never stopped or even slowed down in anything. The sound is the best I've heard from a laptop and the whole feeling when I use it is perfect. The screen is sooo good!!! I also like that when I have it connected to an external monitor with a type c cable, I don't need to connect the charger because it charges from there. Ι had a little concern about the warranty because there are many people saying in the comments that it is a scam etc, but there is an app installed on the laptop and available for mobile to contact and help with the warranty and repair in case of damage. I used the app to send them a message with a question i had and they replied the next day. Overall I am very happy with the purchase I made. Oh and I would ask the apple fanatics to stop attacking anyone who prefers to use something else and not apple products. Please allow us to have so fun.. Thanks!
Is it normal that my ASUS TUF A15 reaches 86c on the GPU(RTX 4060 at 100w+) and 93c on the CPU(R7 7735HS at 30w+) while gaming if I don't elevate it? I have repasted it as well and it didn't make any noticeable difference.
@MatthewMoniz the G16 design is absolutely the best, but with a 125W 4080, core ultra chip, and a massive price tag, I just can't, Matt. I'm currently waiting to see if the new AMD chips will be in the legion 7 line up this year or confirmation that the 14900hx is not affected by the overvolatge fiasco. It feels like legion 7, 7i, or 9i are the only choices this year.
Not an ASUS fan and await these AMDs to arrive in alternative brands. That will also add competition and these prices should fall to a more reasonable level. At the moment ASUS has a deal with AMD to be the initial wave and that means that consumers are likely paying what ASUS paid AMD--as well as all these sponsored ads.
I really think the ryzen ai 300 is gonna dominate the second half of 2024, and even early 2025 and also becuz intel's raptor lake cpu is in big trouble, no one wants to buy their HX cpu, yet their meteor lake is too weak and i don't think intel's Lunar lake is going to catch up
I would prefer 14th or 13th gen i9 day and night over this in productivity and multicore. I M NOT a fan of killing performance for the sake of battery. Last years machines were leagues ahead in multicore . I honestly think hx370 is good as it brings neural units to equation, but still WEAK as compared to last gen. Why couldnt they just make it stronger? 7945hx is like at least 50 percent better than this , and those devices have like a 4080 and still cheaper..geeeez
@@hasandeniz6243 You can push the HX 370 to 100W easily with the G16. Performance will be very close to 13/14th gen i9. And no, it's not weak, it's much cooler than the Intel pendant, thus giving you more thermal headroom for thin devices and no throttling at all. It performs really, really good and is damn snappy. If you want more performance and you don't care about mobility nor battery, then the next stop is a desktop really.
@@tinybit780 wow really? That s nice to hear. How do you push the hx370 to 100 watt? Is it bios overclock or there s embedded software? In that case this becomes more of a value to me to be honest..
I returned the PX13 I found the performance using Lightroom Classic was very poor. Benchmarks are meaningless it comes down to how well your mostly used apps run
upgradable ram would kill the memory speeds. its impossible to get 6000+ speeds on ddr5 sticks so by soldering ram u can achieve speeds of over 7000mhz
I compared the P16 to the Yoga Pro 91 with the higher 165hz reffresh rate watching a tennis match and I thoughty the ASUS was actually better and less choppy. Go figure. And if you have an external monitor with a higher refresh rate then why not use that set up and it moots the 60 hz refresh rate.
You're all complaining about the 4K/60Hz. 4k/120Hz doest not exist for a laptop, if it was, it would heavily impact the battery life. I ( as a creator) would rather have a 60Hz with the sharpness of a 4k panel than 120Hz at a lower resolution.
@MatthewMoniz What ever happened CAMM? It seemed perfect for a laptop form factor since it let's you have higher speed than SODIMM, with thinner profile, while still upgradeable.
![tingle tuesday in the Beehive [July.9.2024] ASMR VOD](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/yHW7l0uuEiY/mqdefault.jpg)
What do you guys think of the ProArt lineup? The PX13 is insane considering its size.
ASUS could have made a really fantastic convertible with the 13 inch all rounded only if it had a better refresh rate. They could have done 120, 90, 75? I dont know, 60hz is not justified in 2024. Atleast I dont see a convertible in the market that packs a good GPU like this and has a high refresh rate, Maybe its hard to get high refresh rate OLED screens?
I believe there are a lot of mac users out there who do want to carry a 2nd device for gaming and something like this with heigher refresh rate will check all boxes.
60Hz really isn't enough in this modern day. Should've been 120Hz at least.
İ wish they have dual 2:01 mode like some monitos 1080p 240hz or 4k 90hz at least
@@genzn1ster obviously this laptop is not for you if you care about the refresh rate of the screen.
So if I wanted to run a LLM AI on the p16 and I wanted to increase the ram I can do that?
I have the P16 and it is a great laptop. That 4k oled is fantastic and color accurate and supports touch. It's performance is next level and has a great selection of ports. The matt black coating is the least fingerprint magnet coating you can currently get and looks great. It has an excellent keybord and one of the best non haptic trackpads you will find. It runs very cool for a 4060 and fan noise is very tolerable. It's speakers are excellent and it's pricing at 1899 is exceptional. Looking at you Dell XPS, Samsung book ultra even Mac Book Pro. As for ram you get fast ddr5x at 32 gigs standard and can upgrade to 64. It's only flaws is it should be haptic and 120 htz. If you need it get the g16, but you will go from 4k to 2.5 k and lose the dial pad and the discrete looks. Even the MacBook Pro has it's faults, no oled,the notch.no type A ports, no wifi 7 and is very expensive to get 32 gigs of ram and 1tb storage and you cant game on it. Sometimes you need to look at the overall package. Good review Matthew and I agree the PX13 is a feat of engineering. If you change the settings to whisper mode you will achieve much better battery life on most operations.
ur comment was way better than his biased video😂
I so wish it were a 14.1" or 14.5" display. The 13.3" is just so ... Tiny.
does the screen wobble easily? weak hinges?
@@shalveenkumar2142 The screen won't wobble unless you type with a lot of force. The hinges seem secure and strong, but not as strong as Lenovo's yoga line where the hinge encompasses a greater portion of the laptop screen's total length.
Stupid question. Is it easy to hook up to dual 4k monitors?
I'm not going to say the 60Hz refresh rate isn't a bummer, but I still love my base model PX13. Last week I had it running Microsoft Office apps, Teams, Edge, Encompass (bloated loan origination software), MongoDB Server, IIS, and Visual Studio debugging a large project. The fans turned off because my PX13 wasn't bothered by that workload at all ... and I fell in love with it. 🤣
To have that kind of performance along with 2-in-1 functionality and a good time gaming now and then is peak x86-64.
The build quality on the PX13 is insane, I got to feel it in person. I wish it had a refresh rate over 60, I might just buy a flow instead.
Hi, I'd like buy this laptop, something like this, visual studio, compilation, 5 browsers and 100 browser tabs, operations IT, client db, VPN, etc, what do you think, is enough?
@@DanielMIT-yd4bu I'd yet to get mine bogged down, so I think you'd be fine. It's a great little machine.
@@DanielMIT-yd4bu It has 32gb of DDR5 ram, I think it could handle all of that. If not, you can always return it provided you bought it from an american retailer like Best Buy.
Finally Windows laptops are taking front facing speakers seriously.
5:34 I wonder if the webcams look so different because of the positioning and the light. The 16 looks better in my opinion.
Another big difference is the 16" offers up to 64gb of ram. Something the Zephyrus doesn't offer.
I love my PX13 (I have the 4050 version). The industrial design and build quality is on a par with Apple and Surface. Bought it mainly for work, but played Trek to Yomi (free with Prime rn fwiw) last night on Epic settings. Even at just 1080p, it looked beautiful, and I'm pretty sure you could play at the native 3k res.
@@scottie10014 I agree, I own that version as well. It's massive upgrade over 5500u & mx450. I love the build quality and the lightweight to go along with the outstanding performance, battery life has been a non-issue for me
how long does the battery last usually and for what kinda tasks?
@@rifaakhan5267 Honestly I'm on charge most to the time, but when I'm not for everyday tasks, like browsing, Word, TH-cam, etc. around 8-9+. Once you start doing things like video calls you tend to eat battery and gaming should only be done on charge for obvious reasons
How's the battery life?
@@arunk2710 Pretty good (up to 9hrs) if you're just doing light browsing or work in something like Word or Excel. If you're doing a lot of video calls, you'll burn through the battery more quickly. When it comes to gaming, you should always be plugged in, because you battery will not last long at, but that's true of any gaming-capable PC.
ProCreator Hub sounds like a formal way of saying "the Hub" 💀
😂
LOL
I appreciate that even in your sponsored videos, you call out the laptops' weaknesses. The lack of 120hz as an option is unforgivable. So a "creator" doesn't do research on the internet and isn't scrolling constantly? Even if he or she isn't gaming, anyone paying this much for a laptop with these components, who will likely hold onto the device for multiple years, should be able to choose a panel as good as the G14 or G16 has. Almost everything else is so great, especially about the P16. You get full 100w to the 4070. You get this awesome new processor from AMD. You get a properly cooled system in a compact design, that is light weight, with a great webcam and with good battery life. You even get all the ports. It's just -- you have a sub-400 nit display that has the same refresh rate as the original iPhone released in 2007.....
You're welcome and I totally agree it should have a 120hz panel at the very least. Hopefully ASUS makes the change for the next iteration. AS for the OLED display there's not too many super bright OLED displays on 16inch laptops YET. It requires a bit more power and with it comes more heat. They would have to do a tandem oled display to make it happen and probably not that accessible for ASUS at the moment.
@@MatthewMonizdo u think they will bring out a updated version next year
$2700 for 64gb version of P16 w/4070
+$400 for 32gb of RAM; that’s tough…
@@BurnsRubber so not good ? U would say 4080 wait for
@@DanielMazz yes should come with 4080 and 16gb of vram with vapor chamber for that price
I think that people dont realize that the reason it' 60hz is because of the screen resolution, oled pannels, and the color accuracy. All of those are very limiting factors. At 144hz They could do 2 at the same time, but 3? Not at this price range (and its already expensive)
The S 16 and G16 manage to do all 3 at a much cheaper price 🙄. They're still high res screens, but not quite as high, however, that would minimally impact battery life outside of gaming.
looks great, i'm tossing up between buying the 13in vs the 16in. Can't see much benefit of the 16in, I think 13in will be easier when travelling
Have a 2023 ProArt Studiobook. Was about to buy the new P16, but, WHERE IS THE ETHERNET PORT? Are they kidding?
Asus, if you're reading this. I was set on the PX13 until I saw the refresh rate was 60hz. How can a creator device have such a basic refresh rate?
It's fine for creating. My desktop monitor for editing videos is 60hz. Only gaming I would require a high refresh rate.
@@MatthewMoniz do you prefer proart P16 to macbook pro m3 max?
That’s not even what he implied
@@batmanonholiday4477 I prefer the macbook pro m3 max because I can work off of it with full power on a plane.
@@MatthewMoniz yes, this also tips the balance for me
Another great comparison, thanks Matt. We have a house full of ASUS products (laptop, desktop, even the ProArt 2K monitor I'm watching this on) so to say I'm fan would be an understatement. That PX13 looks like it would be a good replacement for our five-year-old VivoBook when it finally gives up the ghost.
THanks Bryan!! Ya the PX13 is pretty damn sweet!
The screen looks wobbly
I mean id you want tougher laptop get Tuf A14 😅
it’s not as bad as it seems It is solid
it’s the 75W tgp that’s the deal breaker for the px13…a 4k oled with that level of color accuracy, at 60Hz,at this price point is valid imo.
Prolly gonna go for the p16 as a substitute to the Zephyrus g16. I really need 32 gigs of ram, and nothing over a 4060/70, which the Zephyrus doesn’t offer..
I like that clean design. I wish they make gaming laptop like that minimalist lines and low key.
Very much appreciate this excellent discussion/comparison. Am considering the 13" as a general purpose travel laptop.
@matthew moniz i own the p16 and is a great laptop of course i changed my settings for battery life but the 60hz screen is really not that bad it is smoother than most 60hz display asus says its still has the 0.2ms response time but overall its nice and i would recommend it good comparsion btw
Awesome video…. Just picked up a p16 this weekend and I love it!
THanks! Nice, congrats dude its a great laptop
Great review! Can Linux work on this?
Would you recommend these laptops for a mechanical engineering student?
You probably need something with a dedicated GPU. I would wait to see laptops with the recently released Intel Lunar Lake, as you get better autonomy and better onboard graphics, too. And it will run more silent. We seem to have got to the x86 moment of mostly silent machines that could be charged every other day or so.
Yeah it'll be fine tbh
@@TY_LR Yes, that's what this laptop is made for... All kinds of creative apps
60Hz is too low for refresh rate, 120 is overkill. it should be between 75 and 90 in my opinion. You get a noticeable smoother experience without a great hit on battery life.
120 is fine. It should have 120hz. The only thing I can think of is they figure they have the Zephyrus G16 /G14 if you want a high refresh display
Matthew youre lefthanded?))) 7:31 shocked... or this is mirrored shot? i am lefty, but cant use mouse in the left hand :( that why i snck in FPS games :)
Is burn-in something we have to worry about in these laptops’ oled panels?
If you run things for many hours that have static elements, probably. But they have management software to mitigate some of that.
Can't get over the 2230 slot in the PX13. While a 2280 slot might've been impossible to fit, a second 2230 would've been nice in a "creator" laptop. And LPCAMM2 modules are probably what the slim laptop world needs right now. Also learning the PX13 has a 60Hz display is also a bit of a downer.
I really wish they added 120hz. I guess Asus didn’t so it won’t cannibalize its Zephyrus gaming line.
That's my guess as well. Can't wait for a flow x13 version of the px13
No, it's because a screen like that doesn't even exist. This is for photo and video editing. It has a professional 4k OLED panel, capable of being used for proper color grading. They don't make a panel like that with 120hz.
Is the 365 processor comes close to the HX 370 in terms of the performance you mentioned in this video?
What are the GPU modes shown at 4:26?
Do you need to restart the laptop when you toggle between them?
Does the laptop have a MUX switch and Optimus Advanced?
Do you see a performance uplift when you use an external monitor instead of the laptop display?
If it had 120hz I would buy it right now. Hopefully it’ll come in the future and not be kept hostage in their gaming line.
60Hz in 2024..
Is not that bad
Macbook air also haz 60 hz or steam deck lcd
And is not a gaming laptops for work 60hz is enough for gaming you can buy for about 150-200 usd 1440p 144hz monitor and plug this laptop
A real bummer in 2024 going towards 2025 imo. I don't undersand why they did that and then they gave the S16 "non creator" laptop 120Hz. I was really tempted by the PX13, but the 60Hz display and the battery life really don't justify the full price you need to pay at the moment.
@@Link10210 i partially agree, but you can feel the smoothness difference between 60hz and 120hz also by scrolling a web page, plus, since the PX13 is a 2 in 1, 120Hz would have helped with the feedback from the pen while drawing or taking notes
Yeah imagine spending that much money and the machine still doesn't check nearly all of the boxes
Great review,. I am looking for a new laptop to replace my yoga. I am more into productivity and watching videos- no gaming. I have my laptop connected to an AOC monitor with a 144hz refresh rate so if i am not mistaken that monitor takes the place of teh oled and does fine even if gaming, right?
How does this compare to the studiobook pro 16 w7604? Torn between the two. I like the pro 16 for the 180 degree hinge, the 120hz , and the haptic trackpad, but surely this model performs better?
Where I can find those cool wallpapers in the thumbnail? Thank you!
I made them!
@@MatthewMoniz That’s awesome! Any patreon page or something where I can access those?! Thank you.
Great and well-produced review - thanks a lot! The P16 is for sure my next laptop - I love the clean aesthetics combined good screen/keyboard/performance and the sound/mic/webcam are much better than my current laptop. I am not a gamer, so 60Hz refresh isn't much of an issue for me.
Thank you! WHat laptop are upgrading from?
I have an old laptop used for communication/web connected to camera/mic/headphone amp in my WFH setup. It is starting to show its significant age, so I will replace it with my current LG Gram 17, and get the P16 as my new daily driver and for working when away from home (visual effects). I connect remotely to a server at work, so not a lot of need for performance - main need is screen/keyboard/cam/mic.
I just bought the 13" with a 4060 to replace a big Threadripper game development tower and it's doing great so far. 60hz isn't a big of a deal as it seems, I'm going to update my monitors pretty soon and will go 120hz, I don't really need it on the tiny laptop screen.
The only thing that drives me nuts is when swiping between desktops, the screen animation pauses for 300 ms when I release the touchpad, then resumes the animations. Adjusting the performance settings doesn't seem to fix it either, it's driving me bonkers.
Is the Asus studiobook version replaced with the old one that had a physical wheel or is this another version?
which one better ASUS ProArt P16 or macbook pro m3
I just got the ASUS proart px 13 wit the 4060. I love it. Guess what? Im selling my M3 Macbook pro
I just saw the 13 in store, it's gorgeous, one question does it run hot?
@@oni7729 The fans only kick in when playing high end games. Other than that, its amazing
Thanks for replying, that's amazing, now I wanna pick one up😍
Is it good for gaming? If we are playing games in ultra setting in px13?
I just bought the 2024 g14 for my new college laptop should i return it and get this one?
I never understood the logic of making a larger version of a laptop that is originally a 2 in 1 but not making the larger version 2 in 1 as well... like, why? Especially a laptop for creators, why? What is so wrong with a 16 inch 2 in 1?
I get it! They could have used the Flow X16 design.
@@MatthewMoniz thank you for validating me 😭 finding the perfect laptop is so hard for me lol
High refresh rate is not only for gaming but also for a comfortable website scrolling experience, etc.
Totally but you don't scroll on your desktop like you do with your finger on a phone so its not as noticeable but I agree the panels should be 120hz.
@@MatthewMonizcan Asus fix the problem next year
he just bought the p16 my first ProArt i don't know how to use the dial pad i feel like it doesn't work. the led on the right of the trackpad doesn't light up, how do i activate it please?
120hz should be a standard for these laptops especially at these prices.
The Pro Att 2023 with i9 , 120 Hertz or The P16 witch one is better?
How many external monitors can I connect to the PX13? What definition? At what refresh rate?
i want a laptop for mostly remote connect to my work computer for work (microsoft excel/pdf/word stuff) and discord talking and streaming videos with my gf. I feel like these would be overkill. Any recommendations?
I dont thin kthey are overkill but would also like to hear an answer. I am down to either the Yoga Pro 91 or the Proart s!6
How is Lenovo yoga 7 Ryzen CPU i want user review
I'm so put off by Asus's reputation for abysmal RMA support. I could not see buying a Asus until it changes it's support culture.
The perfect laptop for design and fine arts students.
Is qhd vs uhd resolution that noticeable on a 16"?
Finally a high quality review of the p16
Thanks for watching!
Should I get the 4060 or the 4070 what do you guys think?
Honestly, I am waiting for the Intel Lunar Lake versions. Those seem to have better graphics and run considerably more silent. And you get a better battery life, too.
How good is the igpu on these?
can you use cell service with it?
Why did they remove one USBC 40gbs capability from the 16inch version, the 13 inch has both USBC ports at 40gbs but on the 16 only one? That's an odd thing to do for a creator laptop, definitely need both of those at 40gbs , that's a deal breaker for sure.
the 16 not folding completely makes the stylus pretty useless, they even removed the stylus compatability with the trackpad, would be a no-brainer otherwise
nice but my 13"th Pro Art studio book R24 multicore is about 30 percent higher and about 10% higher timespy (13980hx and Ada 3000) and has a dedicated dialpad and stylus support. Not sure downgrading would make sense except for people travelling a lot.
I am a musician, existing in professional monitoring headphones, and would happily trade in the pointless speakers for more RAM and keyboard space. Unfortunately, almost everything with good specs now has to include the stupid speakers :(
What about the yoga pro 9i comparison?
I would llike to know that answer too
Cannot even beat G16 with last gen Intel Ultra 9 185H
I will never buy something so expensive with a 60Hz refresh screen.
What game were you playing?
Overwatch 2
I really wanted proart px13, but after discovering that display is only 60hz... Its a deal breaker for me
Weight?
will it overheat? A lot of Asus comp will overheat and the battery is not that good. the speaker is not good too.
I love everything about the PX13 but I don't care for the 60hz display. I don't play many games but I know that spending lots of time traveling and working that a 120hz panel would be more enjoyable. That's unfortunate.
Can this charge off of either USB-C ports in the proart13 with generic chargers? And at what rate? I had problems with this with the Flow X13
Up to 100w
Looking forward to the review of the asus tuf versions with the HX370 procs.
Ive already reviewed the TUF A14 with the HX370 procs. The video is on the channel
60hz for that price is disgusting
It is not a gaming pc
@@basicelement so you are saying MacBook pro is a gaming device
@@simplegamingbys.r.2059 no I am just saying it is extremely expensive and it rips off people
@@simplegamingbys.r.2059 and btw macbook refresh rate is at 60hz 😂😂😂
Errmmm .. the 16 inch model can have 3 ssds.. the 13inch only has 1tb. I'd be interested to know if you can manually replace ssd on the 13..
With these designs I think I will never gonna want to buy a Macbook
I wish they did a 14” instead of 13 with a 4070. Not sure why they even do a 13” anymore, just too small for me. Especially with the higher resolution.
Amazing video.. can’t wait to receive my p16 🎉
Thanks! Let me know how you like it
@@MatthewMoniz I will 😀
@@MatthewMoniz Hello again, so I've been using p16 for a week and I've edited video and graphics with Photoshop and Capcat, as well as all the daily work. It is a very good laptop, very powerful and it has never stopped or even slowed down in anything.
The sound is the best I've heard from a laptop and the whole feeling when I use it is perfect. The screen is sooo good!!! I also like that when I have it connected to an external monitor with a type c cable, I don't need to connect the charger because it charges from there. Ι had a little concern about the warranty because there are many people saying in the comments that it is a scam etc, but there is an app installed on the laptop and available for mobile to contact and help with the warranty and repair in case of damage. I used the app to send them a message with a question i had and they replied the next day. Overall I am very happy with the purchase I made. Oh and I would ask the apple fanatics to stop attacking anyone who prefers to use something else and not apple products. Please allow us to have so fun.. Thanks!
People need to calm down, 120Hz is nice to have but should not be a dealbreaker unless you are a gamer, especially on such a small display
So, I guess I'm staying with my MacBook 14 m1 pro
Is it normal that my ASUS TUF A15 reaches 86c on the GPU(RTX 4060 at 100w+) and 93c on the CPU(R7 7735HS at 30w+) while gaming if I don't elevate it? I have repasted it as well and it didn't make any noticeable difference.
60Hz is the nail in the coffin here.
Ya i wish it had 120hz but I guess you can always just buy the ZEphyrus G16 instead if you dont need a dialpad. Its pretty much the same laptop.
@MatthewMoniz the G16 design is absolutely the best, but with a 125W 4080, core ultra chip, and a massive price tag, I just can't, Matt. I'm currently waiting to see if the new AMD chips will be in the legion 7 line up this year or confirmation that the 14900hx is not affected by the overvolatge fiasco. It feels like legion 7, 7i, or 9i are the only choices this year.
Not an ASUS fan and await these AMDs to arrive in alternative brands. That will also add competition and these prices should fall to a more reasonable level. At the moment ASUS has a deal with AMD to be the initial wave and that means that consumers are likely paying what ASUS paid AMD--as well as all these sponsored ads.
does both of this thing have upgradeable memory?.
Neither do, unfortunately. The PX13 I understand. But not the p16. But that was a change already made for the G14/G16 earlier this year
@@Wistbacka thanks.. its kinda perfect laptop for ai.. just pure power no rgb.. i guess need to go for max 64 gb version for p16
I really think the ryzen ai 300 is gonna dominate the second half of 2024, and even early 2025
and also becuz intel's raptor lake cpu is in big trouble, no one wants to buy their HX cpu, yet their meteor lake is too weak
and i don't think intel's Lunar lake is going to catch up
I would prefer 14th or 13th gen i9 day and night over this in productivity and multicore. I M NOT a fan of killing performance for the sake of battery. Last years machines were leagues ahead in multicore . I honestly think hx370 is good as it brings neural units to equation, but still WEAK as compared to last gen. Why couldnt they just make it stronger? 7945hx is like at least 50 percent better than this , and those devices have like a 4080 and still cheaper..geeeez
The more laptops I test with HX 370 cpus the more impressed I get. I think its going to be the best of X86 for the next little while.
@@hasandeniz6243 You can push the HX 370 to 100W easily with the G16. Performance will be very close to 13/14th gen i9. And no, it's not weak, it's much cooler than the Intel pendant, thus giving you more thermal headroom for thin devices and no throttling at all. It performs really, really good and is damn snappy. If you want more performance and you don't care about mobility nor battery, then the next stop is a desktop really.
@@tinybit780 wow really? That s nice to hear. How do you push the hx370 to 100 watt? Is it bios overclock or there s embedded software? In that case this becomes more of a value to me to be honest..
9:09 How do u even get 9 hours from the Zephyrus G16… mine runs for 4 hours max
It's looked like the dial pad was extremely laggy in da Vinci resolve..
They have a gaming rig ...
Does anyone know if the PX13 can charge via USB-C?
I returned the PX13 I found the performance using Lightroom Classic was very poor. Benchmarks are meaningless it comes down to how well your mostly used apps run
Why is the wifi card swappable but the ram not upgradeable? 😅
Because mediatek WiFi cards suck
upgradable ram would kill the memory speeds. its impossible to get 6000+ speeds on ddr5 sticks so by soldering ram u can achieve speeds of over 7000mhz
@@ian-pi8fv it's achievable now with the CAMM standard
I'm not into convertibles but that's something I'd buy.
When launch in India
sad to hear, upgradeable RAM is not coming back with Ryzen AI. I think I will stay with my behemot Studiobook Pro 16 a bit longer (up to 96gb DDR5)
I compared the P16 to the Yoga Pro 91 with the higher 165hz reffresh rate watching a tennis match and I thoughty the ASUS was actually better and less choppy. Go figure. And if you have an external monitor with a higher refresh rate then why not use that set up and it moots the 60 hz refresh rate.
The wobble on the P16 looks pretty dramatic...
You're all complaining about the 4K/60Hz. 4k/120Hz doest not exist for a laptop, if it was, it would heavily impact the battery life. I ( as a creator) would rather have a 60Hz with the sharpness of a 4k panel than 120Hz at a lower resolution.
Why are you telling such a bold face lie about 4k 120hz not existing on laptops, wtf
@@Demonat865On OLED at least it doesn't exist. There's a few mini led 4k120Hz pannels out there, razer and MSI I beleive
Dell XPS 16 has OLED 4k 90hz.
@@stanislasflipo7214Dell XPS 16 has OLED 4k 90hz.
@@stanislasflipo7214they should give at least 90hz.like dell xps 16 4k
Does the px13 come with a stylus?
$100 extra!
If you get the 4070 version I think it comes with but you can’t even order that in the US yet and it’s probably gonna be like $3k
The 4060 version includes stylus and backpack
small laptops anyday and desktop when you are serious
No ram upgrade? It's a no for me. Nice video!
thanks you! Ya, no upgradeable ram is the direciton the industry is going in. Minus big boy gaming laptops.
@MatthewMoniz What ever happened CAMM? It seemed perfect for a laptop form factor since it let's you have higher speed than SODIMM, with thinner profile, while still upgradeable.
Can someone verify if the full 200w power block is required for the gpu to work?
Hello everyone.. im planning to buy a new laptop.. is px13 good for video editing? Hope somebody could ans.. thanks
The dial thing is super annoying and just turns on with me turning it on… it is very annoying