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Hey everyone!! Give this video a BIG LIKE for these pilots who landed the aircraft safely without a propeller. Kudos to them! *QUESTION --> Had you ever seen or heard anything like this; an aircraft losing its engine or prop?* Let me know! :)
VASAviation - There was a flight whose prop sheared off in flight and cut some control cables. There is even a documentary but I cant remember what plane it was.
I also remember hearing of one that happened back in the 80's on a plane going between Seattle and Alaska, the prop flew off and cut the cabin, luckily, no injuries, however this had happened over the Pacific ocean, st they had to fly the plane for a while before landing. Was a safe and successful landing with no injuries, However the cause of the prop falling off was never found, as the answer was on the propeller, which is somewhere in the pacific ocean
Some clever thinkers plotted the actual location/time/trajectory of the prop leaving the engine and with NSW Police helicopter, located the prop in thick bush (near a housing suburb), and winched it out safely for forensic examination. Pretty amazing that it was located in this way.
+James leicher : Could you expand on that theory James, so I can follow your line of thinking more easily? My sense of humour is Australian-based, and foreign jokes don't always include the punch-line very well with Google Translator.
dav snow haha gathered someone wont get it.a Tile is a small device thats on market 25mm x25mm x4mm thick .works with blue tooth tracking via mobile phone.up to 100 feet but you can call all uses in sydney to have a look for its unfortunately its not gps .can glue it to you wallet or hook it up to your keys.can ring it or you can ring your phone.
Imagine sitting in the seat next to the wing and looking out below and then randomly you just see the propellor just fall off of the engine. I'd probably crap myself tbh.
it's funny to see how different people react to different situation. I was once in a propeller aircraft (around 50-70 seater), up in Northern Norway a winter night with a bit.... interesting weather, to put it mildly..! out of nowhere one of the engine stopped after it started to vibrate more than Normal.... with some funky sound... The first word in my head was: "Interesting!"
For sale: 1 slightly used Turbo prop. Has a few dings, and nicks. Would suit someone handy with a hammer to sort out some minor bends in the prop. Pick up only. Located in the woods. Cash only...
That actually is quite entertaining, compared to sassy pilots complaining about not getting the runway they want or private aircraft not reporting correctly.
I thought the same thing when I noticed that. Medical pan was like we have right of way, then atc said no. We have a plan that lost an engine you're second... lmao
Rest of world: Toilet overflowed, MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY Aussie: Sorry to bother you guys, half our aircraft fell off but we're not crashing yet, pan pan.
I have to say one thing after listening to this audio. These Aussies are much easier to understand than our controllers here in Arizona LOL. Evidently they speak much slower. LOL thanks for posting. Great video...
So impressed with the professionalism of the ATCs and the various pilots. I cannot imagine the stress I would feel handling so many planes & the two PANs!!
Great example of staying calm which allowed clear thinking on the pilots end. They handled it very professional and followed the main rule of fly the plane. Kudos to the tower as well. Great example of team work.👍🏽👏🏽😎
2x critical situations handled EXCEPTIONALLY well by center/approach. Great work, gents! Props (pun not intended...ok...maybe) to remaining traffic for keeping their cool
I love how these people can think on their feet! Propellers falling off can only happen once or twice (if that!) And yet ATC just helps the pilots down with no problem.
According to the co-pilot the prop detached flew almost perfectly forward till it was inline with him then went flying straight up and back flying back over the top of the plane and wing
Wow it was truly amazing that the Prop didn't tear through the cabin. I recall an very small Alaskan airline operating a combo, I thing it was a DC-4, that back in the 80's or early 90's, lost a Prop which then tore through the undercarriage, severing most all the control cables. Somehow they got it down, the saga is told in one of the Mayday! Air crash videos on TH-cam. I saw some video of a TWA 727 that had had damage and decompression due to a flying turbine blades from an uncontained engine explosion. The blade went ripping into the fuselage. It seems like Southwest had a similar incident.
Electra methinks it was. Saw that video too. Sadly it wont be long before the older more interesting aircraft stop flying and aviation will be as uninspiring as your local bus services. I hope I am wrong though. Flying is cool.
usually.... because its spinning it actually spins off forward ahead of the aircraft before gravity pulls it down. centrifugal force. the same way hubcabs or wheel covers fly off your car if youve ever seen one. They speed up and out past your window before falling away. crazy to see.
I have landed a SAAB with OEI. Propellor auto coarsened due to a sensor failure and destroyed the engine. In the flair I was a bit taken by surprised by the amount of asymmetric drag caused by reducing the OE to idle thrust. Good times.
Thanks for following the medical PAN until they were cleared to land as well, VASAviation does a great job! And kudos to the cool heads of those pilots!
The accident you aré talking about in some comments was The Revee Aleutian Airwais 8, where a Lockheed Electra lost its engine, and it "cut" some of the control cables. Afortunately, the pilots landed the Electra safely in Anchorage. And a great video VASA!!!
What if I told you it's in fact a regular turbine engine, but instead of compressor fan it has propeller connected to free air turbine mounted in the engine 🤔?
you’d be happy to know that rex are upgrading their aircrafts to jets now. just sad that the chinese are involved with the company now. like all others in aus
Propellers dont do anything but act as a big fan to keep the pilot cooled off, when they stop turning or in this case come off completely you can actually see the pilot start sweating profusely
Yeah, its a Challenger 604 used by the RAAF for VIP transport (i.e. dignitaries, governor-general, etc.) Heres a link to the list of callsigns, aircraft, squadron, etc: www.swld.com.au/pages/aus_raaf_callsigns.htm
As a former resident of Sydney I can tell you that the propeller came off near a densely populated suburb, but by pure luck fell down in parkland near a river. It took about a day to find it.
@richardmartin8998 yep, the place it landed was actually not far from where I was living (I still live there). I would've mostly been at school when it had landed. Cause I remember hearing about the Propeller after coming home from school that day. And a few days later I heard it had been found just 2 Streets away.
My flying has been either in the Window or Aisle seats, but it was extensive when I was younger. Flying from TPA to ATL on Eastern Airlines DC-9 (I'm pretty old). Shortly after take off and climbing, there was a very loud bang sound from engine #2. I was on the port side close to the rear. The AC went off line, the plane leveled out and started a turn to the left (IIRC) I was a bit more than apprehensive. The cockpit announced "Ladies and Gentlemen we are returning to Tampa International Airport". That was it until we landed. I saw the fire trucks on the side of the runway when we landed. I will take a delay any time vs. being the first one to the crash site! Other than a rather harrowing flight from Tyler Texas to DFW I don't remember the carrier. But it was during a thunderstorm, one passenger used the airsick bag, I was pretty scared. I can't remember the equipment, maybe a Twin Otter? Those were the memorable close calls in 15 years of being the self loading cargo.
Interesting that it was declared a PAN-PAN and not a MAYDAY. I understand the other PAN aircraft with the medical emergency - providing, of course, that the emergency was not immediately life-threatening - but a damaged or otherwise non-functional piece of essential flight hardware (like, say, an engine) would, in my mind, warrant a MAYDAY. On the other hand, they got the plane back on the ground safely, so major kudos to them for keeping it cool. And let's give a hand to the ATC controllers for making it sound easy when they had two flights declaring urgent situations simultaneously.
Quite the ingenious engineering being able to maintain flight and land safely with one engine on a two engine design. Redundancy built right in. Quite thankful they were able to land without incident and the prop managed to land, seemingly, in a vacant area where no one was harmed.
I flew with Rex not long after they’d had this happen *twice* ! Believe or not, this wasn’t an isolated incident. I was just a tad anxious..but the flight was uneventful, and it was one of the smoothest landings ever, just gorgeous but the trip wasn’t without some excitement... The regional terminal at Tullamarine is just a big shed and as us passengers walked into it from the gate a loud alarm went off, as we were waiting around the alarm changed to whoop whoop evacuate now..I worked in a healthcare facility and had fire training..so, I’m thinking, this isn’t good, and am looking around for airport employees, but can’t see anyone, while the alarm keeps going evacuate now..so I rounded up all the passengers and got them evacuated out of the building, because I knew that even if it was a false alarm, the fire department still had to come, check it out, reset the fire board and declare it safe before anyone could re-enter. Even when we were outside, no staff were there for well over 5 minutes. Finally a manager showed up, after the fire brigade came and cleared it and escorted people back in to collect their luggage. It was a balls up, good thing it was a false alarm.
every time i see a recommendation in my youtubes, i think to myself "meh... it's gonna be boring..." i am happy to say that more often than not i am terribly, terribly wrong
It only takes a quick look at the airport to know why both PAN aircraft prefer 16R, because 16L is off the coast basically on it's own artificial island, meaning taxing (or an ambulance), would take much longer than from 16R.
Actual pilot here....... 1) We practice stuff like this enough to just take it in stride. 2) Lose your cool, lose your life. During any kind of an emergency, our main focus is always to get the plane on the ground, preferably in one piece.
@@rrknl5187 also, seeing as how y'all are in the front of the aircraft, you have a very good incentive to put it down in one piece. Ah! So that's why we're never going to have drone airliners!
@@volador2828 Actually, the point was that you can usually take off and fairly easily climb out with one engine out, unless you are in a DC-8 at gross.
@@raidzor5452 it ends in water. And it's located in a line with the terminal, and even a highway before it. Go short, you hit the road, go long, you get the dip. Also 16L is like, half the length of 16R
@@xXCursedWorgenXx And its a shitload more taxi time to the terminal. I suspect that is why QLink didn't want 16L. 16R also ends in water, but a fair bit further down the runway than the other.
Contributing factors: - The propeller shaft failed as a result of a fatigue crack that had initiated at the dowel pin hole and propagated through the shaft until it could no longer transmit the required loads. - The engine manufacturer did not have specific inspection procedures in the maintenance documents of the propeller shaft to detect a fatigue crack originating from the dowel pin hole. [Safety Issue] Other safety factors: - The form used by Regional Express during a propeller removal and installation, HM-26 Revision 5, included the task to inspect the propeller gearbox, but did not provide for recording of inspection findings as defined within documented procedures. Consequently, this did not provide for the best opportunity to ensure potential defects were identified, recorded and monitored.
The Propeller actually landed 2 streets down from my street. And there was an old man on the News being interviewed, and he was the husband of a teachers aid at my primary, which was where I was when the propeller landed.
The Rex pilot was so calm cool and collected after losing a prop. Sounds like losing a prop mid flight is a routine thing, no big deal. He kind of reminds me of the Crocodile Dundee guy.
Unfortunately the PAN engine failure needed a RWY inspection immediately after landing assuming it could move off the RWY. Although not ideal, 16L was the best and quickest option for the PAN medical aircraft to land.
Actually it was corrosion in the prop shaft flange behind the locating pin. Inspections in this area were not required prior to this incident. There were vibrations felt in the right engine, engine shutdown procedure was followed, As the prop was put into feather, this caused the prop shaft to break behind the flange and the prop moved upward, then over the wing and horizontal stabilizer. Could have been a different outcome if fitted to the left side.
Before the prop came off, the pilots stated they were getting serious vibrations in the right motor. So they shut it down, and as the engine was being shut down, the prop came off. If they had waited even a second longer to shut down the engines, the outcome could have been different.
That same thing happened to Comair. I think it occurred in the late 1980.. thank the Good Lord it was the right engine as well.....I performed all the hub inspections as required by the FAA and I believe it was a clean breakaway no damage to aircraft or lose of life.
It is much easier to control an airplane that loses a propeller and not a portion of it. When you lose a portion of the propeller the imbalance tries to tear the engine from its mount and the CG changes may make the plane impossible to fly.
Hey everyone!! Give this video a BIG LIKE for these pilots who landed the aircraft safely without a propeller. Kudos to them!
*QUESTION --> Had you ever seen or heard anything like this; an aircraft losing its engine or prop?* Let me know! :)
VASAviation - There was a flight whose prop sheared off in flight and cut some control cables. There is even a documentary but I cant remember what plane it was.
I also remember hearing of one that happened back in the 80's on a plane going between Seattle and Alaska, the prop flew off and cut the cabin, luckily, no injuries, however this had happened over the Pacific ocean, st they had to fly the plane for a while before landing. Was a safe and successful landing with no injuries, However the cause of the prop falling off was never found, as the answer was on the propeller, which is somewhere in the pacific ocean
There was that one famous incident with a commercial aircraft crashing after take off because it's juet engine fell off. that was faulty maintenance.
VASAviation - he literally lost an engine jajajaja
That was American191, a DC-10 at Chicago-O'Hare, May 25, 1979. 271 people were killed.
Some clever thinkers plotted the actual location/time/trajectory of the prop leaving the engine and with NSW Police helicopter, located the prop in thick bush (near a housing suburb), and winched it out safely for forensic examination. Pretty amazing that it was located in this way.
I wonder if it was human error or something technical.
dav snow must of had a a Tile lol
Coulda been a engine malfunction causing excess torque, causing it to eventually shear off.
+James leicher : Could you expand on that theory James, so I can follow your line of thinking more easily? My sense of humour is Australian-based, and foreign jokes don't always include the punch-line very well with Google Translator.
dav snow haha gathered someone wont get it.a Tile is a small device thats on market 25mm x25mm x4mm thick .works with blue tooth tracking via mobile phone.up to 100 feet but you can call all uses in sydney to have a look for its unfortunately its not gps .can glue it to you wallet or hook it up to your keys.can ring it or you can ring your phone.
Shall we say Props to the pilots??
Womp womp
👏🏻
They certainly could use them
Idk, I think the prop goes to the guys that found it in the trees. XD
That's the problem, they didn't have props.
LOL, you removed the prop in the icon. Brilliant.
Hahaha great sight!! Even the minimum little detail makes my videos different =)
even I noticed that and thought you had good attention to detail lol
that's what makes you great, well done sir
I personally believe that if you put an effort to make the video look as professional as possible, people will notice.
N0616JC Productions It really helps us see and understand, what is really going on!!!! It's greatly appreciated!!!!
This is exactly why you secure your props to the aircraft with zip ties and not duct tape
Why not both? Could even throw some super glue in there just to be 100%
Had they used JB Weld this never would have happened.
Zip ties=agreed
😂😂
This is clearly a job for flex tape.
Imagine sitting in the seat next to the wing and looking out below and then randomly you just see the propellor just fall off of the engine. I'd probably crap myself tbh.
Try to look up the Air Crash Investigation document about Reeve Aleutian Airways flight 8. They animated the moment the prop went off.
If you can see the prop is missing that means it didn't hit you on its way out. Its your lucky day.
I think this is a fair reaction
th-cam.com/video/GJ0i5Ede8V4/w-d-xo.html
Let´s just hope the other one stays on.
it's funny to see how different people react to different situation.
I was once in a propeller aircraft (around 50-70 seater), up in Northern Norway a winter night with a bit.... interesting weather, to put it mildly..! out of nowhere one of the engine stopped after it started to vibrate more than Normal.... with some funky sound... The first word in my head was: "Interesting!"
5:11 when you realize you are having a bad day but someone right in front of you is having one that is worse.
"Our propeller has sheared off"
Airforceproud95 ATC
"Blog it"
Erik A Seems like a personal problem
Triggered.
So after it sheared, did it go Space Shuttle Status before it fell?
Bahahahahhaha
@@ValleyOfTheLost11 yep but it was a hot air balloon subbed in for the propeller
"The right propeller has just fallen off the aircraft."
Well that's probably not good.
Well, maybe better than the wrong propeller...
Well at least the front didn't fall off.
Greippi10, yeah, that's not very typical - I'd like to make that point. v=3m5qxZm_JqM
Jester "we kinda lost our wings and are now a meteorite
Wow a meteorite? I didn't know there were any planes coming in from outer space!
For sale: 1 slightly used Turbo prop. Has a few dings, and nicks. Would suit someone handy with a hammer to sort out some minor bends in the prop. Pick up only. Located in the woods. Cash only...
Cary Huff Put it in the pool room
I know what I got!
Only impaled the ground one time, should buff right out.
No low ballers!
TWO Pan-Pan's ongoing at once. That must've been a fun day for the ATC guys n girls
Can you imagine the amount of paperwork that they had to fill out.
That actually is quite entertaining, compared to sassy pilots complaining about not getting the runway they want or private aircraft not reporting correctly.
I thought the same thing when I noticed that. Medical pan was like we have right of way, then atc said no. We have a plan that lost an engine you're second... lmao
Imagine having that thing drop down in your living room while watching Air Disasters on TV.
Total immersion.
This comment made my day
@@Odin197188 I'd be like, "sweet, these things are expensive" lol
😅
That’s an interesting spin.
Rest of world: Toilet overflowed, MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY
Aussie: Sorry to bother you guys, half our aircraft fell off but we're not crashing yet, pan pan.
Nobody calls May Day mayday for an over flowed toilet. You have no idea about aviation and you need to shut your fucking mouth immediately.
Tim Watson lol
@@hellonwheels9149 try getting a sense of humour mate!
@@hellonwheels9149 Goon. Since you swore, so will I: You are a fuckwit sir.
Tim Watson r/woooosh
I'm hooked on these vids... I'm incredibly impressed with the professionalism of everyone involved.
"We just straight up dropped a propeller"
"Huh let's call it a pan"
*shrug* It's their call whether they want to call it a life threatening or not I guess.
Very professional by everyone on all counts. Compliments to ATC, all the pilots, ground crew, everyone!
Fascinating to see ATC manage various aircraft to accommodate the PAN flights. Thank you!
Your animations keep amazing me from video to video. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for watching! :)
I have to say one thing after listening to this audio. These Aussies are much easier to understand than our controllers here in Arizona LOL. Evidently they speak much slower. LOL thanks for posting. Great video...
It’s my “Queens English” that’ll be helping . 😉
It's good to see that these pilots were able to maintain the Saab 340's excellent safety record.
Thanks for that VASA, as a Sydneysider its great to see my airport is capable of a little drama as well, keep up the good work☺
First time all comms from ATC clear and precise. Can pick up Aussie and Saffa accents from control.
So impressed with the professionalism of the ATCs and the various pilots. I cannot imagine the stress I would feel handling so many planes & the two PANs!!
🙏🏼 It was pretty full on but your training kicks in and you do what you can.
Great example of staying calm which allowed clear thinking on the pilots end. They handled it very professional and followed the main rule of fly the plane. Kudos to the tower as well. Great example of team work.👍🏽👏🏽😎
2x critical situations handled EXCEPTIONALLY well by center/approach. Great work, gents! Props (pun not intended...ok...maybe) to remaining traffic for keeping their cool
🙏🏼 Yeah, could have done without the 2nd PAN.😂🤦🏻♂️
What makes your videos work and stand out from the rest is the graphic videos of aircraft positions you add along with the ATC. Great work.
Hi tim. I spend many hours editing so I really appreciate your words. My pleasure! :)
Just found your channel,my twin boys really enjoy it... they couldn't believe that there were 2 planes that had declared emergency (PROP & MEDICAL)
The REAL reason Sheryl’s She Shed was destroyed!
underrated reply
I love how these people can think on their feet! Propellers falling off can only happen once or twice (if that!) And yet ATC just helps the pilots down with no problem.
Amazing how that prop separated at the hub, didn't scratch the airplane, and found almost intact with all blades still attached and feathered!
Saved the airline a lot of money.
According to the co-pilot the prop detached flew almost perfectly forward till it was inline with him then went flying straight up and back flying back over the top of the plane and wing
in the southern hemisphere, the screws go on the opposite way. common mistake
My girlfriend says left right hand or right hand is ok by her.
Coriolis effect.
Great pilots and great ATC too. Clear, concise, and everybody stayed super polite lol
-"Rex768 we've lost a propeller m8!"
-tower: "Crikey, how's about I send you out over some mountains?!"
He really liked the movie "Alive".
Plane can handle it
not much choice in Sydney, place is mountain central
Damn!! This sounds like a real
(SAAB) STORY!
Glad the pilot's handled it flawlessly, no injuries or undue drama.
Wow it was truly amazing that the Prop didn't tear through the cabin. I recall an very small Alaskan airline operating a combo, I thing it was a DC-4, that back in the 80's or early 90's, lost a Prop which then tore through the undercarriage, severing most all the control cables. Somehow they got it down, the saga is told in one of the Mayday! Air crash videos on TH-cam. I saw some video of a TWA 727 that had had damage and decompression due to a flying turbine blades from an uncontained engine explosion. The blade went ripping into the fuselage. It seems like Southwest had a similar incident.
Electra methinks it was.
Saw that video too. Sadly it wont be long before the older more interesting aircraft stop flying and aviation will be as uninspiring as your local bus services.
I hope I am wrong though. Flying is cool.
usually.... because its spinning it actually spins off forward ahead of the aircraft before gravity pulls it down. centrifugal force. the same way hubcabs or wheel covers fly off your car if youve ever seen one. They speed up and out past your window before falling away. crazy to see.
New-ish turboprop aircraft have reinforced hulls next to the prop because of this.
I have landed a SAAB with OEI. Propellor auto coarsened due to a sensor failure and destroyed the engine. In the flair I was a bit taken by surprised by the amount of asymmetric drag caused by reducing the OE to idle thrust. Good times.
That pilot and ATC did a great job to get those planes down safely. Everyone stayed calm and cool.
Thanks for following the medical PAN until they were cleared to land as well, VASAviation does a great job!
And kudos to the cool heads of those pilots!
Great job.... and nice to see how the quality of the videos keeps becoming better and better with all the new animations!
Keep it up.
Always trying to improve! Thanks :)
The accident you aré talking about in some comments was The Revee Aleutian Airwais 8, where a Lockheed Electra lost its engine, and it "cut" some of the control cables. Afortunately, the pilots landed the Electra safely in Anchorage. And a great video VASA!!!
When a propeller wants to be a jet engine ....
ex59neo53 ba doom tshhhh.....
I mean a turboprop is a type of jet engine, lol.
"I said JET engine, not JETTISON engine!"
What if I told you it's in fact a regular turbine engine, but instead of compressor fan it has propeller connected to free air turbine mounted in the engine 🤔?
you’d be happy to know that rex are upgrading their aircrafts to jets now. just sad that the chinese are involved with the company now. like all others in aus
I was listening and tracking this live. Could believe two PANs at the same time.
Propellers dont do anything but act as a big fan to keep the pilot cooled off, when they stop turning or in this case come off completely you can actually see the pilot start sweating profusely
But this prop is well behind the pilot.
Never heard that one before.
Excellent communication, between tower and pilot. Excellent.!!!
The callsign ending in 21, at the 5:30 mark is Wisdom 21, Wisdom is the callsign used by the VIP 34Sqn Challengers and B737s.
Hey, thanks! I didn't know that callsign ;)
Ironic that an aircraft carrying politicians would have a call sign " wisdom"
@@ankles632 So it's AAF1 ;-P
The pilot sounds like he flying a sight seeing trip. He has some balls!
Note to myself: Order new prop from Amazon with thread locker.
5:32 The callsign you didn't pick up is WISDOM 21. It's a RAAF aircraft.
Yeah, its a Challenger 604 used by the RAAF for VIP transport (i.e. dignitaries, governor-general, etc.)
Heres a link to the list of callsigns, aircraft, squadron, etc: www.swld.com.au/pages/aus_raaf_callsigns.htm
Poor Velocity pilot got denied information
The aviation equivalent of "Mind your own business"
As a former resident of Sydney I can tell you that the propeller came off near a densely populated suburb, but by pure luck fell down in parkland near a river. It took about a day to find it.
The river was the Georges River.
@@legohistorytube.3148 That's right. Feeds into Botany Bay.
@richardmartin8998 yep, the place it landed was actually not far from where I was living (I still live there). I would've mostly been at school when it had landed. Cause I remember hearing about the Propeller after coming home from school that day. And a few days later I heard it had been found just 2 Streets away.
The confused Qantaslink pilot though, but we're the pan aircraft!
My flying has been either in the Window or Aisle seats, but it was extensive when I was younger. Flying from TPA to ATL on Eastern Airlines DC-9 (I'm pretty old). Shortly after take off and climbing, there was a very loud bang sound from engine #2. I was on the port side close to the rear. The AC went off line, the plane leveled out and started a turn to the left (IIRC) I was a bit more than apprehensive. The cockpit announced "Ladies and Gentlemen we are returning to Tampa International Airport". That was it until we landed. I saw the fire trucks on the side of the runway when we landed. I will take a delay any time vs. being the first one to the crash site! Other than a rather harrowing flight from Tyler Texas to DFW I don't remember the carrier. But it was during a thunderstorm, one passenger used the airsick bag, I was pretty scared. I can't remember the equipment, maybe a Twin Otter? Those were the memorable close calls in 15 years of being the self loading cargo.
That bang was probably a compressor stall
Interesting that it was declared a PAN-PAN and not a MAYDAY. I understand the other PAN aircraft with the medical emergency - providing, of course, that the emergency was not immediately life-threatening - but a damaged or otherwise non-functional piece of essential flight hardware (like, say, an engine) would, in my mind, warrant a MAYDAY.
On the other hand, they got the plane back on the ground safely, so major kudos to them for keeping it cool. And let's give a hand to the ATC controllers for making it sound easy when they had two flights declaring urgent situations simultaneously.
yeah mate, it's the company policy. One engine inoperative ops is pan only. Engine fire, cabin, cargo smoke/fire will be mayday
Multiple emergencies in one airspace? Call it a PANPAN-demic!
Hey! Thank you for the animation effort. It was pretty cool.
Quite the ingenious engineering being able to maintain flight and land safely with one engine on a two engine design. Redundancy built right in. Quite thankful they were able to land without incident and the prop managed to land, seemingly, in a vacant area where no one was harmed.
I flew with Rex not long after they’d had this happen *twice* ! Believe or not, this wasn’t an isolated incident. I was just a tad anxious..but the flight was uneventful, and it was one of the smoothest landings ever, just gorgeous but the trip wasn’t without some excitement... The regional terminal at Tullamarine is just a big shed and as us passengers walked into it from the gate a loud alarm went off, as we were waiting around the alarm changed to whoop whoop evacuate now..I worked in a healthcare facility and had fire training..so, I’m thinking, this isn’t good, and am looking around for airport employees, but can’t see anyone, while the alarm keeps going evacuate now..so I rounded up all the passengers and got them evacuated out of the building, because I knew that even if it was a false alarm, the fire department still had to come, check it out, reset the fire board and declare it safe before anyone could re-enter. Even when we were outside, no staff were there for well over 5 minutes. Finally a manager showed up, after the fire brigade came and cleared it and escorted people back in to collect their luggage. It was a balls up, good thing it was a false alarm.
Thank you!
every time i see a recommendation in my youtubes, i think to myself "meh... it's gonna be boring..."
i am happy to say that more often than not i am terribly, terribly wrong
It only takes a quick look at the airport to know why both PAN aircraft prefer 16R, because 16L is off the coast basically on it's own artificial island, meaning taxing (or an ambulance), would take much longer than from 16R.
The aircraft is now back in service. I have also flown on it twice in the past.
I sure do admire the calm professionalism of the Australians...
i just love this chanel. tks guys!!!
Beautifully handled by everyone. On yer cobbers!
Amazing no plane damage. Fantastic flying. Kudos to pilot and crew. Good plane design also.
Excellent coverage - well done, guys!
Isn´t it the abolutely greatest job on this planet? Just to say: "The prop just fell off" is worth all this training.
investigation found stress cracks on the shaft caused the prop to shear off.
Planes should have a spare prop strapped to the back windshield, like cars with spare tires. Just pull over and swap it out if one falls off.
I was actually underneath this flight, the propeller landed about 10km away from my house haha
When you think your PAN gives you landing priority only to be told the poor buggers in front of you lost an engine.
Woww. Big PROPS to those pilots for a great landing. I'd be freaking out- which is why I'm not a pilot. Just a simulator game pilot 🤓
One Prop is enough.
Actual pilot here.......
1) We practice stuff like this enough to just take it in stride.
2) Lose your cool, lose your life.
During any kind of an emergency, our main focus is always to get the plane on the ground, preferably in one piece.
@@rrknl5187 also, seeing as how y'all are in the front of the aircraft, you have a very good incentive to put it down in one piece.
Ah! So that's why we're never going to have drone airliners!
@@MrKeserian When you get right down to it, the pilot is usually the first one to arrive at the scene of an accident........
I've made 100+ landings. Never landed with a working engine. Never took off with one either :-)
Lucky bastard, usually loosing one engine is no problem, the second engine just takes you to the crash site!
Depends on the aircraft and engines. Most airline aircraft are quite different from general aviation.
@@shreddder999 Totally! It's got to be really bad for two to go down!
@@volador2828 Actually, the point was that you can usually take off and fairly easily climb out with one engine out, unless you are in a DC-8 at gross.
@@shreddder999 I'm aware. I was in aviation. A6-Intruder.
Stopped flying in 1991 after one tiny (big) mishap! It rendered me fubar!
@@volador2828 Those had the JT8 I believe. That's an old engine! Hope you are doing better.
Wow. Looking at a map of Sydney I can see why no one wants to land on 16L.
Mickey why?
@@raidzor5452 it ends in water. And it's located in a line with the terminal, and even a highway before it. Go short, you hit the road, go long, you get the dip. Also 16L is like, half the length of 16R
@@xXCursedWorgenXx And its a shitload more taxi time to the terminal. I suspect that is why QLink didn't want 16L. 16R also ends in water, but a fair bit further down the runway than the other.
Lifeless Dragon Both main runways 16 end over water, 16 L just has a much longer taxiing given it starts so much further out.
It’s a looooong taxi!
Good job he had another!
It's always a good idea to keep a spare prop in your pocket for emergencies :)
Imagine if he lost both, they'd never get down!
Amateur Flyer they’d get down one way or another... maybe just not on a runway
Contributing factors:
- The propeller shaft failed as a result of a fatigue crack that had initiated at the dowel pin hole and propagated through the shaft until it could no longer transmit the required loads.
- The engine manufacturer did not have specific inspection procedures in the maintenance documents of the propeller shaft to detect a fatigue crack originating from the dowel pin hole. [Safety Issue]
Other safety factors:
- The form used by Regional Express during a propeller removal and installation, HM-26 Revision 5, included the task to inspect the propeller gearbox, but did not provide for recording of inspection findings as defined within documented procedures. Consequently, this did not provide for the best opportunity to ensure potential defects were identified, recorded and monitored.
I bet both pilots thought about whether the LEFT prop was screwed on tight! Nice job!
Flying is safer than driving . As long as everything and everyone works perfectly . Listening to this stuff it’s amazing 😳
The Propeller actually landed 2 streets down from my street. And there was an old man on the News being interviewed, and he was the husband of a teachers aid at my primary, which was where I was when the propeller landed.
Cool and professional. Good thing that prop didn't hit someone.
It's amazing how calmly they manage the situation.
I was nervously waiting for: "Fuel leak, prop ripped the wing open". Thankfully, the prop seems to have separated cleanly.
They're so chill the whole time
It good that they put a positive spin on the situation😎
The Rex pilot was so calm cool and collected after losing a prop. Sounds like losing a prop mid flight is a routine thing, no big deal. He kind of reminds me of the Crocodile Dundee guy.
Cool, calm, professional. Fly, navigate, communicate. 👍😉
Holy Pattern size, batman!! A 10-minute holding pattern will hold you over half of southeast Australia!!
Pretty impressive. Calm, controlled, confident.
I just hope the medical emergency on Q-link 472D was fine and they didn't lose too much time landing on and taxiing from 16L.
If I remember correctly I think the ambulance met them on the taxiway. It was unfortunate for them but 16L was the quickest way down to land.
Everybody so professional. Thumbs up!
Could You imagine just walking around when suddenly a propeller flutter-falls in front of you?
How would an Aborigine account for that in his Dream Time?
Confusing - the REX pan pan was 16R and the QLink pan pan was 16L. Makes sense to get them on the ground soonest!
Unfortunately the PAN engine failure needed a RWY inspection immediately after landing assuming it could move off the RWY. Although not ideal, 16L was the best and quickest option for the PAN medical aircraft to land.
At least the propeller didn't hit the ground in a populated area, respect to the pilot for a safe landing
Mechanic, you had one job! ;-)
Actually it was corrosion in the prop shaft flange behind the locating pin. Inspections in this area were not required prior to this incident. There were vibrations felt in the right engine, engine shutdown procedure was followed, As the prop was put into feather, this caused the prop shaft to break behind the flange and the prop moved upward, then over the wing and horizontal stabilizer. Could have been a different outcome if fitted to the left side.
Sydney Control has either a Kiwi or a Zaffer controller in the building.
English too. We’re a mixed bag.😉
I'm curious as to how a prop could come apart like that without causing virtually any damage to the aircraft. Incredibly lucky!
Before the prop came off, the pilots stated they were getting serious vibrations in the right motor. So they shut it down, and as the engine was being shut down, the prop came off. If they had waited even a second longer to shut down the engines, the outcome could have been different.
That same thing happened to Comair. I think it occurred in the late 1980.. thank the Good Lord it was the right engine as well.....I performed all the hub inspections as required by the FAA and I believe it was a clean breakaway no damage to aircraft or lose of life.
It is much easier to control an airplane that loses a propeller and not a portion of it. When you lose a portion of the propeller the imbalance tries to tear the engine from its mount and the CG changes may make the plane impossible to fly.
Fast as those props move, surprised how little damage to the aircraft.
If I were this pilot, the series of events following this landing would be:
whiskey.
whiskey.
puke.
sleep.
puke.
long, LONG talk with an A&P
The Garden of Eatin That prop shaft came off too clean to be a mechanic’s fault. Just good old metal fatigue.
In someones backyard an aviation-grade prop is sitting stuck in the ground waiting for someone to notice