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I want uber to treat us like true independent contractors, not this bs with ever changing set of rules and upfront price cuts to drivers. We dont want to be employees!
i've been an employee. i do rideshare because i prefer to not be an employee. i don't want a schedule or anything alse that comes with being an employee.
Dara is saying that we make $32/ hour, that’s been said, we can become employees if they pay us $32/hour, we drive company cars, Uber/lyft pay for gas, insurance, oil change etc, if we work more than 8 hours we get paid overtime, they pay vacation and holidays. If that happens I m in. 😊
Yeah now wait till you get the bill for repairs on your vehicle.😂 I won't do that shit without $50 minimum hourly with commercial insurance and all the other things you mentioned like vacation sick pay and also gas reimbursement. And I won't go 6miles I want to stay in My city taking care of my locals
I'm already getting out of driving for Uber and I definitely wouldn't want to be an Uber employee, but I definitely want to be paid fairly per mile as an independent contractor.
They're not going to give us company cars so we definitely need to be compensated to offset the cost we incur. Not just a minimum wage. 40 an hr guaranteed (NYC suburbs) for utilizing your own vehicle, phone, specialized signal boosting antenna etc
Number one issue with Uber for me is, ticking the unaccompanied minor box, it does not give a cancel fee. It does not prevent them from using the account and wasting another drivers time. Same with no car seat. Number 2 issue is cancelation rate percent, and acceptance rate percent even being logged. If were independant, we can cancel for any reason whatsoever, even using it as a stratagy. Bonuses should not be based on acceptance. It should be based on star rating. 3rd issue is that we should be able to defend our rating. We have dash cams. We have records of txt and call communications. Uber keeps those records and proceeds to never look at them.
7.25$ an hour is shameful at his very best. Its 2024 not 2004 USA Government and Congress yall should listen to uber and lyft drivers and delivery drivers. Need to take action as soon as possible.
If actual inflation is 30 percent, we should have 50 dollars minimum wage. Inflation is not what they say it is. They change yhe rules in how it is calculated. They decide what types of goods and services should be included or ommitted.
I see a lot of individuals who are not drivers fighting to make drivers UBER employees under the guise of “worker rights”. That, to me as a driver, is very aggravating. What is their motivation? I do not want to be under an employer’s thumb.
A far better deal would be to negotiate for percentages or in app practices rather than this archaic device of 'minimum wage' - left party wants their cut for govt programs while a blanket wage will separate workers from profits
The key issue here is they’re trying to fit a gig worker into labor laws that were created in 1935 (89 years ago)! NELP, NLB, lawmakers and the gig companies need to come up a hybrid model that takes into consideration the basics of an independent worker and an employee. There has to be a model that protects the individual and that makes companies and their shareholders realize a return on their expenses / investments. The reason U and L aren’t worried about this announcement is b/c it is based on $7.25/hour! Imagine if the federal min wage was current with the cost of living (let’s say $23/hour), they would be dinging a very different time. The Fed min wage needs to be updated to current market conditions!
As ride share employees, who will cover the cost to drive( car maintenance, fuel and depreciation)? I currently base my rides off the federal minimum wage plus $0.65/mile to cover cost. Funny thing is, I still make less than minimum wage and over 80% of my offers are below minimum wage, once I deduct the $$0.65/mile. As for the overtime thing, these companies will simply throttle drivers so that they never reach 40 hours, forcing them to switch apps for the rest of the week and the other app will do the same. So drivers will have say 32 hours on Uber and 32 hours on Lyft; 32hrs on GrubHub, 32hrs on DoorDash, ect. This will make companies never pay over time pay and be well within their rights to throttle drivers. Throw in this active time BS and drivers will only have 25 hours a week even if they work 7 days.
no way i could do a schedule, if we are employees the govt will take 30% of your check for taxes, medicare, SS. A union will steal dues from you and give you nothing in return.
They already take 30% when you file your 1099. It would be nice to have my taxes already done with w-2 but the issue is I want to be a independent contractors because of the flexibility. The issue is these thieves won't let us set our prices nor reimburse us for gas nor maintenance while simultaneously taking %25+ in some cases they have been found to be taking %70 of our earning even tips there thieves.
@@roboterminator_T-1000 I have been full time for 3+ years and have not paid any taxes. Everyone has different credits and deductions etc. Sometimes I will buy things like a new phone or tires for car to offset any taxes I might owe.
Why not give drivers a choice? Option A is set your own rates (per minute and per mile) and be exempt from FLSA, and Option B is have the rideshare app set the rates for you, and be an employee.
If uber doesn't provide me with car to bring passengers they can go kick rocks. I ain't doing no dam rides past 5 miles if I ain't making minimum 50hourly.
It’s not if, it’s when. The rule is final. Uber and Lyft need to prove drivers are not deprived of laws that can protect them, which I find very hard to prove.
you can’t take on that many employees you make you do half-and-half that would be my opinion half employees and half contractors is the only way it could happen but you’re only gonna get paid when somebody’s in the seat going down the road you’re not gonna get paid to hang out in your car so forget about it
I really think here in Florida we are underpaid per trip! If uber provide all of the expenses including a car maybe they could make employees. I wouldn't work for them, i would branch off to another gig. Its ridiculous how its not adding up to be a fair decision if this takes place.
I thought this issue was resolved already, in UK Uber was sued and now every driver is employee and receive minimum wage with holiday pay, sick pay, and pension etc, Drivers are employee because Uber owns the App and can deactivate you anytime
3 out of 6 = HYBRID If they let me set a price I am worth and showed me all the information upfront ie What pax paid what I get paid and what UBER takes upfront is only fair/fare! TRUE UPFRONT TRANSPARENCY ! I believe upfront transparency for both pax and driver is needed for both sides to level the playing field. 100% no transparency has made made UBER BILLIONS!
@@user-hb1ve6mc6f same principle applies I guess. They want to make everyone an employee so that the company has to take taxes out as opposed to the person doing their own taxes.
I think the best model is the employee making $30/hr driving uber owned and provided tesla with free charging and scheduled shifts like Boston city bus drivers $30/hr pay
What do you want to see? Employee or independent contractor?
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I want uber to treat us like true independent contractors, not this bs with ever changing set of rules and upfront price cuts to drivers. We dont want to be employees!
Amen
Facts
That's all!
I rather be a independent contractor and let it stay that way.....
I rather get Paid! I don’t care what it’s called. Independence is fake word and premise that Uber cons you with
i've been an employee. i do rideshare because i prefer to not be an employee. i don't want a schedule or anything alse that comes with being an employee.
Dara is saying that we make $32/ hour, that’s been said, we can become employees if they pay us $32/hour, we drive company cars, Uber/lyft pay for gas, insurance, oil change etc, if we work more than 8 hours we get paid overtime, they pay vacation and holidays. If that happens I m in. 😊
They could lower that to 22 an hour. If I dont need to use my car, my costs are way way low. No need for a car at all.
I will be an employee for 35.00/hour. 8 hours a day equals 280.00/day with holiday, sickpay, vacation pay.
😂😂😂 it is nice to dream
Yeah now wait till you get the bill for repairs on your vehicle.😂 I won't do that shit without $50 minimum hourly with commercial insurance and all the other things you mentioned like vacation sick pay and also gas reimbursement. And I won't go 6miles I want to stay in My city taking care of my locals
I'm already getting out of driving for Uber and I definitely wouldn't want to be an Uber employee, but I definitely want to be paid fairly per mile as an independent contractor.
They're not going to give us company cars so we definitely need to be compensated to offset the cost we incur. Not just a minimum wage. 40 an hr guaranteed (NYC suburbs) for utilizing your own vehicle, phone, specialized signal boosting antenna etc
Most corporations that are non union are also paid hire for being non union and no healthcare etc
Number one issue with Uber for me is, ticking the unaccompanied minor box, it does not give a cancel fee. It does not prevent them from using the account and wasting another drivers time. Same with no car seat. Number 2 issue is cancelation rate percent, and acceptance rate percent even being logged. If were independant, we can cancel for any reason whatsoever, even using it as a stratagy. Bonuses should not be based on acceptance. It should be based on star rating.
3rd issue is that we should be able to defend our rating. We have dash cams. We have records of txt and call communications. Uber keeps those records and proceeds to never look at them.
7.25$ an hour is shameful at his very best. Its 2024 not 2004 USA Government and Congress yall should listen to uber and lyft drivers and delivery drivers. Need to take action as soon as possible.
If actual inflation is 30 percent, we should have 50 dollars minimum wage. Inflation is not what they say it is. They change yhe rules in how it is calculated. They decide what types of goods and services should be included or ommitted.
Freedom is priceless independent contractor is a must just pay drivers compensate more in bonuses & incentives
I see a lot of individuals who are not drivers fighting to make drivers UBER employees under the guise of “worker rights”. That, to me as a driver, is very aggravating. What is their motivation? I do not want to be under an employer’s thumb.
Which is why I became a rideshare driver
A far better deal would be to negotiate for percentages or in app practices rather than this archaic device of 'minimum wage' - left party wants their cut for govt programs while a blanket wage will separate workers from profits
If ‘contract drivers’ were to become ‘employees,’ there will, conveniently, be massive ‘layoffs.’
Ic is better. Just pay us. Making us employees guarantees we will be paid trash…
The key issue here is they’re trying to fit a gig worker into labor laws that were created in 1935 (89 years ago)! NELP, NLB, lawmakers and the gig companies need to come up a hybrid model that takes into consideration the basics of an independent worker and an employee. There has to be a model that protects the individual and that makes companies and their shareholders realize a return on their expenses / investments.
The reason U and L aren’t worried about this announcement is b/c it is based on $7.25/hour! Imagine if the federal min wage was current with the cost of living (let’s say $23/hour), they would be dinging a very different time. The Fed min wage needs to be updated to current market conditions!
As ride share employees, who will cover the cost to drive( car maintenance, fuel and depreciation)?
I currently base my rides off the federal minimum wage plus $0.65/mile to cover cost. Funny thing is, I still make less than minimum wage and over 80% of my offers are below minimum wage, once I deduct the $$0.65/mile.
As for the overtime thing, these companies will simply throttle drivers so that they never reach 40 hours, forcing them to switch apps for the rest of the week and the other app will do the same. So drivers will have say 32 hours on Uber and 32 hours on Lyft; 32hrs on GrubHub, 32hrs on DoorDash, ect. This will make companies never pay over time pay and be well within their rights to throttle drivers.
Throw in this active time BS and drivers will only have 25 hours a week even if they work 7 days.
The moment they do this, I am sure many of us are not driving anymore. I know how to bartend and learning mechanics.
no way i could do a schedule, if we are employees the govt will take 30% of your check for taxes, medicare, SS. A union will steal dues from you and give you nothing in return.
They already take 30% when you file your 1099. It would be nice to have my taxes already done with w-2 but the issue is I want to be a independent contractors because of the flexibility. The issue is these thieves won't let us set our prices nor reimburse us for gas nor maintenance while simultaneously taking %25+ in some cases they have been found to be taking %70 of our earning even tips there thieves.
@@roboterminator_T-1000 I have been full time for 3+ years and have not paid any taxes. Everyone has different credits and deductions etc. Sometimes I will buy things like a new phone or tires for car to offset any taxes I might owe.
When we gonna do that in California?
Why not give drivers a choice? Option A is set your own rates (per minute and per mile) and be exempt from FLSA, and Option B is have the rideshare app set the rates for you, and be an employee.
If uber doesn't provide me with car to bring passengers they can go kick rocks. I ain't doing no dam rides past 5 miles if I ain't making minimum 50hourly.
It’s not if, it’s when. The rule is final. Uber and Lyft need to prove drivers are not deprived of laws that can protect them, which I find very hard to prove.
The proof is in the pudding
If we become employees we will drive their cars or ours?
Cleveland Ohio newest promo 25$ for 585$ ridiculous!
Independent Contractor
you can’t take on that many employees you make you do half-and-half that would be my opinion half employees and half contractors is the only way it could happen but you’re only gonna get paid when somebody’s in the seat going down the road you’re not gonna get paid to hang out in your car so forget about it
Yes, people can't select their driver so we are employees representing Uber.
Chris, I believe you base out of wny. I appreciate the videos you put out but do you ever have localized meetings for drivers?
I really think here in Florida we are underpaid per trip! If uber provide all of the expenses including a car maybe they could make employees. I wouldn't work for them, i would branch off to another gig. Its ridiculous how its not adding up to be a fair decision if this takes place.
I thought this issue was resolved already, in UK Uber was sued and now every driver is employee and receive minimum wage with holiday pay, sick pay, and pension etc, Drivers are employee because Uber owns the App and can deactivate you anytime
I wonder how this would work in NC if it does come to this
Ask the red necks
If we were independant, we would have our own commercial liability insurence. We could take private clients. Uber could not say, we can nit.
P. S. Independent contractor is only desire
I wonder who this guy works for, can you say union!
3 out of 6 = HYBRID If they let me set a price I am worth and showed me all the information upfront ie What pax paid what I get paid and what UBER takes upfront is only fair/fare! TRUE UPFRONT TRANSPARENCY ! I believe upfront transparency for both pax and driver is needed for both sides to level the playing field. 100% no transparency has made made UBER BILLIONS!
I want to stay independent
The Department of of injustice should go against this wacos No lawyer cause they will take 90 percent of the drivers money only 90 percent
A employee looks like a auto parts delivery driver..$8.50hr, company car
No, I have friends that do this and they all make at least 15 to start.
@ricky4673 yeah, I was giving pre covid #'s in a medium town
@@Rj34506 My town isnt that big, minamum pre covid inflation was 12 i believe.
@ricky4673 thanks... my area is underpaid then... I would do it as a 2nd job for 15, if it's their vehicle...
The seatle model should be federal. States such as Tennessee will never do anything to help drivers.
Tennessee 😂
i guess if you post videos on youtube and make money you could be an employee of youtube.
What about pornhub?
@@user-hb1ve6mc6f same principle applies I guess. They want to make everyone an employee so that the company has to take taxes out as opposed to the person doing their own taxes.
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I think the best model is the employee making $30/hr driving uber owned and provided tesla with free charging and scheduled shifts like Boston city bus drivers $30/hr pay