Tanfoglio started to make pistols based on the "75" platform in the '80s, but they started to do competition pistols on that platform WAY before CZ did. The Stock II is an evolution of the Stock (not of the Stock I, that's a later model), and it was marketed in 2004. The Shadow II was marketed only in 2016.
I've been a Tanfo fan boy for many years. I bought a used small frame Tanfo Stock3 back in 2012 and I've always thought CZ copied that model for their Shadow2 as it's more closely related than the Tanfo Stock2. Although the Stock3 may not be as popular in competition as the Stock2. Good comparison video though!
So it's not really difficult to find out about when the Shadow2 was first released in 2016. You're saying then that the Stock 2 was released in 2011 or so? My little research yielded no fruits when it comes to find out precisely when the Stock 2 was first released. I've found something online saying 2018 or so... and I couldn't find reviews or actually anybody really talking too much about the Stock 2 here in US before that. The Tanfoglio.it website doesn't seem to have anything about when the model first reached the market - Do you know of any trustworthy source that will show the first release year of the Stock 2 in Europe?
@@czarmorerlong story short from what I’ve found - Tanfoglio started developing handguns for sport shooting, especially for I.P.S.C. and I.D.P.A. competitions, in their different shooting categories in 1986. CZ up to 1992 was government controlled company and started changing from privatization - around year 2006 the’ve began to start developing completely new models, also dedicated for sport shooters and this was beginning of what we have Today. Tanfoglio also was involved in military production and that was also the reason why the was starting from similar platforms. Definitely Tanfoglio was firs in terms of producing guns dedicated to IPSC/IDPA but it’s hard to point who’s copying more from who. ;)
@@czarmorer not sure why my comments are not showing up, but it may be because I linked a few reviews from Brian Enos forums dated back to 2009 regarding the release of the Stock II.
@superking5354 I don't know either. Great to know about the forums. I did search there but couldn't find either. I need to improve my research skills 😆. Thank you for educating me! I knew I would end up learning the right history here in the comments.
Awesome work, it was a pleasure to watch! Would you consider making some kind of maintenance schedule video? Or maybe a comment, which parts after how many rounds are you changing in both of them, how often do you clean them in order to have maximum reliability for competition? Ex (guessing) recoil spring every 5k, something else every Xk. Cheers!
Congratulations for the video and for how you managed to make such complex topics easy. I have a stock 2 and was thinking of buying a shadow 2, thanks for explaining everything to me in an impartial manner. I wanted to ask you what type of thumbrest you mounted on the tanfoglio, because I can't find any that fit the "custom" increased safeties and what sear spring? I'm Italian, so now I'll be the one to apologize for my bad English. Thank you!
Grazie!! The thumb rest is called Nitro Fin (sold by shootersconnection.com)and it doubles as a slide release. You lose the slide lock function when using it though... It works for me as the division I shoot the Tanfo with makes no difference to have or not a slide lock function.
As a Tanfo fan boy who has owned a CZ or two this was such a refreshing video. Great to see the mechanical differences which show the direction both manufacturers have gone from the CZ75. Where did you find the print file for the stand with the square cut out?
Great video thanks for all the info! Guessing you shoot that chrome bad girl in CO haha. Kinda want to try the Tanfo, but love the S2 balance and trigger seems like the stock Tanfo trigger is really bad is that your experience as well? Wish we could get the KMR pistols over from Czech Republic maybe they will import them eventually. I think you mentioned you haven't messed around with the Swiss versions from Phoenix what about he Arma Zeka pistols are they any good?
Right, that's my CO gun but I will really use it more in IDPA since it makes the weight - The Shadow goes beyond the 45oz limit in IDPA. Your take on the Tanfo's trigger is accurate - It's garbage out of box if compared with a Shadow2. However after the upgrades and work on it, it actually gets as good as a Shadow2 upgraded too. I also with we had KMR here! That would be awesome. And I don't have any experience with the other ones you mentioned :(
Thank you! It's true the Tanfo Stock 2 came out first, but do you think it's fair to say Tanfo adopted the CZ-75 platform and bult their guns on top of it from the 80's on?
Great video! Now my stupid question, i bought an extra cgw upgraded hammer and disconnector for my shadow 2, is that interoperable with the tanfoglio stock master 10mm?
Thank you for the question! Not stupid at all... Those are parts are not interchangeable between the S2 and the Tanfo - At least not as a drop-in. I don't know if one could re-fit them to make it work on the Tanfo, but I know they will not work out of the box.
Just a question that I have, I bought a shadow 2 to compete in production optics and y put a holosun 507 comp and I saw that the front sight was to high so I decided to take it of but then I did a research and I didn’t know that the front sight pin of the shadow 2 holds the bushing too… so I put the same pin of the front sight, do you think that I have to place back the front sight or it’s good to go with just the original pin? Just don’t want the bushing fell off when shooting 😅
Right - The front sight pin is actually what keeps the bushing locked in place as well. So just put the pin back and you will be good to go. If you, otherwise, go shoot it without the pin, it will be just a matter of a few rounds until your bushing flies away from the gun following the bullet :)
@@czarmorerthanks i appreciate your help! Just an other question in some research there are people saying that the front sight gives more retention with the pin than just the pin, is it true? And with just the pin doesn’t affect the accuracy? Thank your videos really help me🔥🔥
@@erickkim3534 Yes, it makes sense because with the front sight in place there is more friction with the pin and therefore more retention. However that pin goes in pretty tight even without the sight. If you feel like being extra-safe, and you don't tihnk you will use your front sight again for anything else, you can just either file it flat and replace it on the slide, or just buy a front sight delete - The cost is the same as new front sight though, so I would just file it down and buy one if I ever need it again :)
Excellent in-depth review.
Tanfoglio started to make pistols based on the "75" platform in the '80s, but they started to do competition pistols on that platform WAY before CZ did.
The Stock II is an evolution of the Stock (not of the Stock I, that's a later model), and it was marketed in 2004. The Shadow II was marketed only in 2016.
Great Video, it’s crazy how different yet familiar they are
I know! I love both, but you know which one I like shooting the best for CO :)
Thank you my friend!
I've been a Tanfo fan boy for many years. I bought a used small frame Tanfo Stock3 back in 2012 and I've always thought CZ copied that model for their Shadow2 as it's more closely related than the Tanfo Stock2. Although the Stock3 may not be as popular in competition as the Stock2. Good comparison video though!
I always thought it was funny that the Stock II gets referred as a clone of the Shadow II even though it was released 5 years prior to the Shadow 2 😆
So it's not really difficult to find out about when the Shadow2 was first released in 2016. You're saying then that the Stock 2 was released in 2011 or so?
My little research yielded no fruits when it comes to find out precisely when the Stock 2 was first released. I've found something online saying 2018 or so... and I couldn't find reviews or actually anybody really talking too much about the Stock 2 here in US before that.
The Tanfoglio.it website doesn't seem to have anything about when the model first reached the market - Do you know of any trustworthy source that will show the first release year of the Stock 2 in Europe?
@@czarmorerlong story short from what I’ve found - Tanfoglio started developing handguns for sport shooting, especially for I.P.S.C. and I.D.P.A. competitions, in their different shooting categories in 1986.
CZ up to 1992 was government controlled company and started changing from privatization - around year 2006 the’ve began to start developing completely new models, also dedicated for sport shooters and this was beginning of what we have Today. Tanfoglio also was involved in military production and that was also the reason why the was starting from similar platforms. Definitely Tanfoglio was firs in terms of producing guns dedicated to IPSC/IDPA but it’s hard to point who’s copying more from who. ;)
@@czarmorer not sure why my comments are not showing up, but it may be because I linked a few reviews from Brian Enos forums dated back to 2009 regarding the release of the Stock II.
@superking5354 I don't know either. Great to know about the forums. I did search there but couldn't find either. I need to improve my research skills 😆.
Thank you for educating me! I knew I would end up learning the right history here in the comments.
@@SpidiFreestyle great info!! thank you for sharing and educating me about it.
Great video
Awesome work, it was a pleasure to watch! Would you consider making some kind of maintenance schedule video? Or maybe a comment, which parts after how many rounds are you changing in both of them, how often do you clean them in order to have maximum reliability for competition? Ex (guessing) recoil spring every 5k, something else every Xk. Cheers!
I have a video on exactly that for CZs - Check the channel.
@@czarmorer th-cam.com/video/hu2YaJi4Jio/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QxXWrjmERlVtZePD one click less for others. Thanks again :)
The tangfolio looks like a better gun at first glance.
There are certainly people who think so. Some others will prefer the CZ... At the end of the day is what works best for you :).
Congratulations for the video and for how you managed to make such complex topics easy.
I have a stock 2 and was thinking of buying a shadow 2, thanks for explaining everything to me in an impartial manner. I wanted to ask you what type of thumbrest you mounted on the tanfoglio, because I can't find any that fit the "custom" increased safeties and what sear spring?
I'm Italian, so now I'll be the one to apologize for my bad English.
Thank you!
Grazie!! The thumb rest is called Nitro Fin (sold by shootersconnection.com)and it doubles as a slide release. You lose the slide lock function when using it though... It works for me as the division I shoot the Tanfo with makes no difference to have or not a slide lock function.
As a Tanfo fan boy who has owned a CZ or two this was such a refreshing video. Great to see the mechanical differences which show the direction both manufacturers have gone from the CZ75. Where did you find the print file for the stand with the square cut out?
thank you!
Great video thanks for all the info! Guessing you shoot that chrome bad girl in CO haha. Kinda want to try the Tanfo, but love the S2 balance and trigger seems like the stock Tanfo trigger is really bad is that your experience as well? Wish we could get the KMR pistols over from Czech Republic maybe they will import them eventually. I think you mentioned you haven't messed around with the Swiss versions from Phoenix what about he Arma Zeka pistols are they any good?
Right, that's my CO gun but I will really use it more in IDPA since it makes the weight - The Shadow goes beyond the 45oz limit in IDPA.
Your take on the Tanfo's trigger is accurate - It's garbage out of box if compared with a Shadow2. However after the upgrades and work on it, it actually gets as good as a Shadow2 upgraded too.
I also with we had KMR here! That would be awesome. And I don't have any experience with the other ones you mentioned :(
@@czarmorer Gotcha thanks for the info!
Tanfo came first. If anyone, “cloned” anyone it was CZ cloning a Tanfo.
Thank you! It's true the Tanfo Stock 2 came out first, but do you think it's fair to say Tanfo adopted the CZ-75 platform and bult their guns on top of it from the 80's on?
Would love to see you get your hands on a Phoenix pistol
wanna send me one for review? :):)
Great video! Now my stupid question, i bought an extra cgw upgraded hammer and disconnector for my shadow 2, is that interoperable with the tanfoglio stock master 10mm?
Thank you for the question! Not stupid at all...
Those are parts are not interchangeable between the S2 and the Tanfo - At least not as a drop-in. I don't know if one could re-fit them to make it work on the Tanfo, but I know they will not work out of the box.
have you tested TANFOGLIO Defiant Tactical Pro ???
@@snakeqwezzxzz I have not, the stock 2 is the only one I have.
Just a question that I have, I bought a shadow 2 to compete in production optics and y put a holosun 507 comp and I saw that the front sight was to high so I decided to take it of but then I did a research and I didn’t know that the front sight pin of the shadow 2 holds the bushing too… so I put the same pin of the front sight, do you think that I have to place back the front sight or it’s good to go with just the original pin? Just don’t want the bushing fell off when shooting 😅
Right - The front sight pin is actually what keeps the bushing locked in place as well. So just put the pin back and you will be good to go. If you, otherwise, go shoot it without the pin, it will be just a matter of a few rounds until your bushing flies away from the gun following the bullet :)
@@czarmorerthanks i appreciate your help! Just an other question in some research there are people saying that the front sight gives more retention with the pin than just the pin, is it true? And with just the pin doesn’t affect the accuracy? Thank your videos really help me🔥🔥
@@erickkim3534 Yes, it makes sense because with the front sight in place there is more friction with the pin and therefore more retention. However that pin goes in pretty tight even without the sight.
If you feel like being extra-safe, and you don't tihnk you will use your front sight again for anything else, you can just either file it flat and replace it on the slide, or just buy a front sight delete - The cost is the same as new front sight though, so I would just file it down and buy one if I ever need it again :)
@@czarmorer thanks! Appreciate you help!🔥👍🏻