OnePlus 12R Review: Return of the Flagship Killer
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A reviewer reviewing one plus products instead of making up excuses to ignore reviewing it to make nonstop coverage of the apple vision pro instead. Love to see it.
Mk? True
💀💀
Lmao shots fired lol
@@j-cultureEnt yes very disappointed in him tbh, OnePlus added everything he wanted last year and he refused to acknowledge it
Money talks. There is a difference between honesty and doing it for the money.
Really appreciate someone actually reviewing the 12R. It really is push forward development at a really competitive price. Hopefully the North American market show this phone some love.
I hope so too. It's a crazy competition option exactly where SamApple is.most vulnerable.
@SomeGadgetguy .. what do u think of the haptic feedback when u compare to the 12 ?? Is it priscise??
@@SomeGadgetGuy Hey Juan -- I heard you asking about doing speech-to-text on Smartwatch on your SGGQA today. You can definitely do it on a Samsung. I have a Samsung Galaxy Watch 5 Pro... all you have to do is swipe up on the keyboard when first composing the messages. Once in the conversation you just click on the microphone icon and select speech-to-text instead of voice message recording.
Oneplus phones have extremely bad security, everyone that has one has seen signs of hacking, particularly bot hacking for social media accounts. Chinese phone makers are heavily compromised either by state intelligence (much like Western Hardware) or Hackers (unlike majority of Western Hardware). However because of the extremely over priced nature of Western Hardware, working class people will see these phones as a good alternative and probably by them based on hardware performance, having no idea how compromised they are.
I've owned 3 op's and they all performed awesome 👍😎
This is my first reply to a TH-cam video ever in my history of being on TH-cam, and I've watched a lot in these past 16 years of having an account. But for some reason I feel compelled to leave a reply now. It's probably your genuine, knowledgeable and enthusiastic approach to this review. I'm a researcher at heart and can easily spend months finding out what's out there before making a decision. You just made it easy for me. Thanks Juan, this just saved me a considerable amount of time.
Excited to try it out. Trading in my flip 5. I just can't use a foldable without being paranoid that it'll break. One plus was giving $500 so pretty much break even.
try the phone(2)? or the pixel 7A or the 7???
7A and 7 have far worse battery and performance though. Not sure about Nothing.@@LevenZ69
The phone 2 under delivered and was overpriced and the pixel 7a and pixel 8a wjen that comes out will habe bad battery life
12R is a better deal overall,
I have had my flip 4 for 14 months and the screen is starting to crack where it folds... I just bought a 12 R as well very excited to use it!
Thanks for covering this phone! Cheaper phones tend to get way less attention but they offer a shitload more value for people who aren't necessarily gonna fully utilise the more expensive camera specs and such.
OnePlus is really hitting their stride. I wish they made a smaller form factor phone. I loved the old OnePlus X back in the day. Great review as always !
This! If they had a ~6" phone I'd be all over it. Almost 7" seems excessive.
Just a heads up. The 12 seems to be getting the day one update in Europe now. The US should be receiving it soon and I would assume that goes for the 12R as well.
NOICE!
We just got the update here. OP sent the WHOLE image over LOL.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Dang still nothing for me. How Thicc is it?
499 USD?! Holy crap thats cheap! In Sweden were i live this is 8690 sek which converts to almost 900 USD...
US is a tech lovers dream lol...
In Sweden you only get the 16/256GB version. In USA you pay $599.99 for the 256GB version. Add to that the sales tax, so e.g. in California you will actually pay $643.49 (6 670 SEK). Still a lot cheaper though.
Here in the Netherlands the 16/256 model of the 12R costs around € 600, so that's quite comparable. The 'normal' 12 is around € 800 for the 12/256 model and around € 900 for the 16/512 model. I think the 12R is the best value for money here. In day to day use you'll hardly notice the speed difference between the 8 gen 2 and gen 3, the extra screen resolution is overkill i.m.o. I don't take a lot of 'serious' pictures with my phone (mostly bar shots) and I don't give a shit about wireless charging. So, I don't think it's worth the extra 200 Euros
I'm happy I found your channel, this is an excellent video and a great comparison between the 11 and 12R. Thank you for your work!!
There are too many things about this phone, not to love, so I bought it as a backup. Your reviews are always on point, and I always learn something when I check in over here. Why am I not subbed? That changes today. Thanks for all the hard work.
So smart to have a backup phone. I've been a 2 phone guy for several years and will never again have just one phone. If you lose or break your phone you're still in business and not frantically running to a carrier for a device. On top of that you've got a lot more features at your disposal with 2 different phones
Nice video. Love your insights on mobile processors and marketing.
I have a Realme 11 pro+ from last year, with a Dimensity 7050. Love the design of the phone, the "flagship" main sensor, the battery life. For my performance needs, 7050 is more than enough and I think the 2 performance cores + 6 efficiency cores combo is underrated. I think you get the power most users need with the addition of boosted efficiency for the vast majority of every day tasks. Bought it for 450 euros.
Thanks again for the content and the insights!
Sir pls clear my confusion
12 vs 12r?
Want phone for day to day usage
12r
Day to day doesn't need high end activities...so 12 r better...
12 is better but also costs more and you might even not need that high end specs
The best overall deal Oneplus has going right now in my opinion. Oneplus usually has a $30 off deal on their website, which drops the base 128gb black version to $369 with any phone, any condition trade in deal.
I mean... That sounds like a pretty good buy to me...
That's the price deal I got and I'm loving it
And if you have a student in the house they'll knock off another 10%
I can't agree more on the camera situation. I would prefer 2 good sensors to 1 good and 2 moderate sensors., But still, what a phone!
Great video as always. Although for some reason I had to switch to the desktop version of the Firefox app to get voice typing to work. So I'm going to use this comment to troubleshoot it. You can ignore this. Just need a small sample size to diagnose the problem. Okay that's good enough be well.
Hy Juan ,what phone can you recomand between Xiaomi 13 T pro,One plus 12 R and Motorola edge 40 pro? I m interested about display sound soft and camera.
Regards
I accidentally ordered the 12 gb ram version of the OnePlus 12, instead of 16 , do you think that'll make a big difference?
As a 12r user, I'm satisfied a lot
It's up upgrade for my over my realme x2pro and that was a legend in it's own time (even still is comparing with others in terms of efficiency and performance)
Anyone having doubts about green line, only 1 user (op12, not 12r) has surfaced and even then, there's no solid proof to suggest it was not human error
It's not an upgrade over op11 tho, or even 11r, but it is over all pre-11 series phones
From one Won to another Juan…thanks for a knowledgeable review that accentuates most what helps those of us who don’t have the bandwidth to go deep in analysis!
Just got it myself and I love it so far. Not going back to my iPhone 15 plus
I got the OnePlus 8 and i upgrade 2 oneplus 12R. I hope i liket when inget it home
I'm doing the same, are you happy with the upgrade?
@@4K6VR om loving it so far.
we salute you for standing up for our pockets...
If you have the oneplus 11, it doesn't make sense to get the 12r unless you want a bigger battery. Juan, I have a question. Does the 12r scroll choppy on TH-cam like the 11? Honestly, I don't expect you to respond even though it's a legitimate question. I don't blame oneplus if they don't care. Maybe TH-cam is not popular in Asia for them to give a darn. But you have to admit it is an issue on the 11. Is it b/c TH-cam is running on 60hz? I have an S23 fe. TH-cam runs like butter on it. Even Tensor 2 on the Pixel 7pro does a good job of keeping scrolling smooth on YT. Oneplus phones are great, but they need tweaking. Scrolling is stiff on oneplus.
Oxygen OS 14 includes an option to force apps to run at 120Hz, but it's unclear how well it works.
@@ayouboughar4673 can you expand on that? I'm interested.
This year, OP has improved that some yes. The scrolling will pin the screen refresh to 120Hz, but it still janks a little when it needs to get more videos from the internet. It's better though, that while playing a video at 30fps, if you scroll under the video, NOW OP will fire up the full refresh rate, even if you haven't selected the app to operate specifically in high refresh. You can leave it in auto now.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Thanks for taking the time to reply. Much appreciated. 👍🏾
Figured out how to get TH-cam to run at 120hz. It's smooth as a baby's bottom.
Hands down best value per dollar. Picking one up soon
@SomeGadgetguy .. what do u think of the haptic feedback when u compare to the 12 ?? Is it priscise??
The 12 has a more distinct pulse, the 12R has that older style which makes the phone feel hollow, or like the typing is being done with a tiny woodblock.
@@SomeGadgetGuy cool.. that's what I wanted to know .. I like a good haptic motor.. should be pricise
Hi everyone! I am very confuse on which model should I buy --- 12R or Nord 4?? I usually take many pictures even though I have a dslr.. What it your opinion?? I come from the legendary 5t which I have for 6 years now :)
I wish pricing was more equal throughout the world. This starts at $750 in my country, which puts it in flagship level price. But I'm happy with my Pixel 7 Pro though, which I got a few weeks ago for about $200 refurbished.
*Also a point about the Tensor G2, it's really not bad. I know it had a lot of troubles when released, but now, especially on Android 14 it's smooth, powerful and doesn't heat up anymore. For everyday use browsing internet, streaming music, navigation etc. it's perfect. And those cameras, I think it's unnecessary to mention how amazing they are.
whatever you do, mayne - just continue being yourself
i respect you because you're not a corporate shill
you're making me have high hopes for the next generation of open
if it can hold its own against this year's 'gamer' phones, i might just switch
I'd be happy if Google lowers the OS updates to 5 years to keep the price competitive. My 3a XL had no slowdowns in day-to-day operations until the last 3 months in its 5th year of use, at which time I upgraded to the 8. Super happy with the cameras.
I'm starting to feel like I should recommend more of my friends wait out until we see how companies will bring back easily replaceable batteries...
Scoping out potential upgrades for my soon to be s21 ultra. I feel like I'm going to miss that 100x zoom.
Main advantage of A54 is SD card support
That is handy.
Which is better- the Oneplus 12r or the Thinkphone? Coming from an older Samsung with a Samsung watch.
Great video, Still loving my Oneplus 11
It feels nice that hte OP11 isn't really left behind in this strategy.
excited to get this phone. I am upgrading from the oneplus 8 so should be great. Picked up the genshin edition
I heard that curved phones are prone to get damages easily. Does this apply to this phone aswell?
you know, my issue is that the back panel of the regular Oneplus 12 feels like very thin paper.
i ordered one but i sent it back right away after feeling that.
the cheaper a phone, the more willing i am to accept that.
I was looking at upgrading from my Oneplus 8 pro. But i was surprised most comparison websites have Oneplus 8 pro as the better phone, compared to Oneplus 12R. Am i missing something?
Great ! someone finally took a look at the Oneplus 11r . Yeah it would be $430 out the door including tax when using the $100 discount for any phone and condition . This is a great deal as long as you need the two other lens .
OnePlus said last year when presenting the 11 that they're going back to roots and focusing on their quality which is why they dropped a 'Pro' version and that the flagship version will be the entry version
Have the 12r 16/256 GB in cool blue. Awesome phone.
OnePlus 12R is mostly likely going to be my next phone.
It's such a punchy option. Great price to performance.
The AI tool works on oneplus 9 pro too pretty cool to see new features added to an older model
Oh snap. I haven't tried that yet!
I've gotta ask: Is that picture cutout feature actually that impressive? Since it can be done on samsungs and xiaomi devices running lower end processors.
I'm still using my OP 8T, but this is pretty tempting. I've been thinking about upgrading too.
8T to this would be a nice little upgrade...
usually midrange phones have a bad micrphone.
like my Nothing phone 1, it's camera quality is perfect but the microphone is really bad.
is the microphone good on this one ?
I just did a ton of research and I'm positive this is the absolute best phone you can get for it's price. I'm about to get one exclusively for the sd8g2 chip and the price. I just can't confirm if it is compatible with straight talk. Do you know if it is compatible?
I smashed that bell and my phone got broken please send me this unit of 12r please ! 😢
This is literally costing me the same amount as my OnePlus 6t did 5 years ago....i say thats a pretty nice deal for an upgrade in every category
That's why Samsung Dex is great. With all that power, Dex just extends the life of the phone. I still have my older Samsung phones running media dudies with the TVs around the house.
Not having a desktop experience is a deal breaker.
I wish more folks would really give it a shot. I know PLENTY of people who's whole computing needs could be easily covered by an S10.
399 if you trade in ANY device, and if you are a student you get 10% off on top of that, I got mine for 375 taxes included using the oneplus app.
Nice buy!
Mine is coming the 14th... can't wait...
Nice to see this review of the OnePlus 12R!
Hey so im torn on which model to get. Im thinking about the 12R which would be easier on my wallet but would it be more worth it to save a bit more and get the regular 12?
It depends on what you want in a phone. The 12R has lesser specs but better battery life and just as good display, and the 12 has a better camera and latest Snapdragon chipset.
I have a Xiaomi 12, and thinking to buy a OnePlus12R, do you think it's worth?
I am finally moving off of my oneplus 7 pro to get the 12R. Expect similat stellar performance and worry free use for years.
Did you get it ?
If yes, how is the experience??
3:00 I completely agree. Reminscing the Poco F1 days... 😂
I am still so confused on what to buy for a new phone its either one of the Oneplus 12's or a google 8. I am leaning more towards oneplus as I own a oneplus 7 pro I love it. Its just a massive brick so are the 12's lol.. I hate phone shopping so God dang much!
Another great excellent video to the point that I immediately looked it up on their website (UK) at £650 and no expandable memory or headphone jack has made me pause, there's a lot to like about the 12R but I would really like to not lose those particular features. Great Job as always Sir.
Fewer and fewer options left to vote with your wallet there.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Well just gonna sit tight for the moment and see what this year brings, please keep on doing what you do, it's truly appreciated
Extended support beyond 5 years is not actually that critical, hardware gets irrelevant plus keeping the phone condition in a good shape will be challenging.
Credit Oppo/One plus, they brought the game here in a big way. They opened up allot of eyes
No A55 from Sammy this year ... a rumored significant price hike for the pixel 8a, the only NA midrange competition will be Motorola (supposedly the new SD 7 G3) and the "new" SE from Apple's bin of spare parts lol. Oneplus has a shot. 😂
OnePlus is taking over early 2024
12R or Moto Think phone?
That is my question
Thank you for being honest about the one plus 12R
😎👍
How does battery life compare between the 12R and the 12?
Similar
OnePlus just needs to get their act together and get OxygenOS 14 pushed out to the OnePlus Open. I don't understand why they're releasing sub $1,000 dollar phones already running 14 but leaving us that bought the $1,500 Open hanging out here waiting!
If this phone had expandable storage I'll be trying to get this after I watch this video.
Part of me want it to sucessed because it's a decent device without breaking the bank and it's available in the states (why I can't buy a Sony device) But I need expandable storage and can't buy it because of this short coming.
Use a gcam port for the camera
I can't decide between the 12 & 12R.
The 12r is better in price
No wireless charging and only ip64 are unfortunate. I'm think about a thinkphone
Happy birthday!!! 🎉🎊🎁
You can jail break phone to get more os stuff
OnePlus 12R was advertised with faster UFS 4.0 storage, but it doesn’t have it.
OnePlus is just going to improve the Open 2 then just undercut the price of next foldables from Google and Samsung
Time to get rid of Apple/Samsung/Google executive accounting departments and let companies innovate and engineering departments design products that are cutting edge and coming to the market without delay. Who cares how much it’ll cost let the marketplace and consumers decide what they want. The marketplace will tell you faster then a executive department of it should die or last
OnePlus is really pushing the boundaries this year. Too bad "big tech TH-camrs" ignored it this year. Thank you for the video
I really just dont get it. All these reviewers talk SO MUCH about "avuraj conzumers", but then mostly only talk about phones that only about 10% of the market will buy. It's weird. Almost like that review style is a big fat lie...
@@SomeGadgetGuy Well said, brother. It absolutely IS a big fat lie unfortunately.
Pixel 8A...can they hit 38w on charging? lol
I bought the phone after watching the review and i must say there is no regret
Yay! I'm glad you dig it. I think it's a champ.
Its a champ 😊
Hi Juan, which would you choose between one plus 12 vs vivo x100 pro? Your reviews for both are excellent by the way
Well being a camera snob.... And a video editing snob...
@@SomeGadgetGuy I smell a vivo recommendation lol
Juan, i love watching your videos but talking about iPhones, I feel their fanbase is the reverse of what companies do, which is to chase for customers. In this case, their fanbase, chase Apple and Apple can do anything and they'll still get praise for it. Samsung , not really as they do get call out from time to time but they too, if unchecked, will become Apple, at least , in terms of how they operate, not with a rabid fanbase that Apple gets. Apple to me is like the story of the emperor's new clothes -- the FOMO levels are insane. You would think, it's just the US, but even the youth in my country, are so americanized despite themselves denying such things, would kill for an iPhone -- why? because the status of it being the "it just works" device. However, we do have less of those , ugh, you're poor for using Android group but i've met those people here too.
You would think it's only teenagers but nope, young adults too. Older folks, don't really care I think.
I don't see the prestige of Apple at all. Perhaps it's because I've used their product , from the iMac to their MacBooks. As a kid, I wanted to use the Macintosh since it was farfetch dream to get it...then i got it, and I was like, this is it? why does it remind me of Linux? that was the first thought i had haha.
However, the fanboyism really turn me off Apple, plus the company reminds me of Micro$oft from the 90s, the evil corporation. The twist in this one is that people truly ignore their bs and would even go on r/AppleSucks to defend their identity as an Apple fanboy. It's funny and entertaining to me at first until i realize, shit, their numbers are growing and on android's side, it feels like Samsung is the only one with brand awareness for casuals. It is frustrating to see.
I do not want it to be like say, Blu Ray Vs HDDVD. can't say it's the same as android and iOS is quite comparable in terms of core usage and logically, the sheer utility of Android is amazing to me. I never understood people's thought process that oh, it's too complex with the advanced settings, therefore it sucks. Nah, bro, it's not an android thing, it's a you thing. Plus, you don't need to use it if you don't want to but at least, the options are there.
I think Android has improved a hell lot compared to say, Windows. the inconsistency of their dark mode still annoys me. I mean, Windows.
My mom got two of these for 500 USD
Nubia z60 ultra the real flagship killer.
Would be a great first phone for my kids if they were old enough.
HUGE first phone. I dunno. I feel a lot of kids should start even lower than this tier LOL.
What a weird comment lol
@@jihigh482 eh. To each their own. I am pretty strict on screentime for my kids. They don't own any personal electronic devices. They aren't pitching fits in restaurants because they don't have their tablets.
Just introduced a tablet they all share last week. 30 minutes of screen time a day after good reports at school and getting chores done. It also never leaves the house.
I personally think 13 is a more appropriate age to introduce them to that kind of freedom. Learning to do nothing, and waiting patiently for things like doctor visits or waiting to be seated at a restaurant is a life skill.
The 12R would be perfect for my oldest. He's forgetful so fast charging would help. He doesn't care much about photography. He does enjoy games and its also great for that. But he's got a little while to go before he's ready.
A tech reviewer saying that a smartphone has powerful laptop hardware is weird to hear 🤯🤯🤯
Which is a shame. More folks should be pointing that out. Unless theyre lazy, and they don't really know as much about tech as they claim to know...
Amazing❤
This is basically iPhone Plus version of android. Last year cpu, screen left over manufacturer parts and rebranded as mid range/high end phone. Is it be than apple plus model? of course. Also depends on ecosystem that user want to use.
A mid range phone is $300 - $600 now
I hate curved displays. Well, as close as one can hate an inanimate object.
I love curved screens
Oneplus 12R is the best value Android phone.
The new nexus
Samsung S23 FE in Europe has Exynos 2200 💩😂 ! OP 12R has no competition in Europe market. 2MP macro is stupid.
2MP macro is SO DUMB! 😅
@@SomeGadgetGuy I heard that the stability in 3D Mark is said to be unreal 88% approx. I'm not a person who takes a lot of photos, but at 12 I'm still tempted by the Pixelworks X7 chip.
"its ridiculously overpowered for daily driver tasks..." There is no kill like overkill and there is a reason why I always go for 1 gen back's flagship power (in this case a S8G2). I keep phones for 3-4 years, and the snapdragon 888 in my Oneplus 9 is *just starting* to feel sluggish. If i had gotten a midranged one like the 860 or 865 it would have been chugging a year ago instead of now.
Take my money❤
the OP nord 3 is way cheaper and basically the same as the 12R
Yes me you will blow my mind away in typing this comment as Ai see it!! You already knew I was waiting!! xD thank you it's not enough!!
Oneplus sold out after the 5T
When will they stop using 8mp ultrawide sensors. They are all useless and bad.
Elder millennials😆
How much did Samsung pay you for that review? 😅
Why is R series becoming flagship killer again